the house will vote sometime tonight. we are standing by for that. we have team coverage. the next hour of cnn news room starts right now. thank you for joining us. i'm don lemon. we are watching the clock. we are watching washington. you are in the cnn news room. the clock is ticking and we are getting closer and closer to a government shutdown. this could happen at midnight on monday unless congress can cut a budget deal and do it soon. right now, the ball is in the house's court. it is to vote this evening at anytime on a republican spending bill to add controversial spending measure that is undermines obama care. fully implement the president's health care plan and a repeal of a tax on medical devices that help fund it. any house gop plan faces certain

death in the senate. harry reid said any bill that would change obama care is unacceptable. we have this whole thing covered for you. we are on top of it, every angel. gloria is standing by. at the capital, chief congretion that correspondent, dana bash standing by as well. gloria, i want to go to you first. why would house republicans push changes to obama care in senate democrats insist, insist it's a nonstarter? >> reporter: well, have you ever heard of a show boat, don? i think that's what this is. precisely because they know that it isn't going to go anywhere in the senate. this gives a republican party, which hans been divided over substance using continuing resolution to defund obama care an easy vote. they can all unite around the fact they don't like the

president's health care plan. they know the president's health care plan is not very popular in this country. so they can show a unified front and a vote to defund the president's health care reform bill knowing full well it's going to go over to the senate and not going to fly there. they can say, by the way, we are not voting to shut down the government. we don't want to shut down the government. we are funding the government. you have to defund obama care to get there. they can say, not my problem, their problem. >> that's what both sides are saying. so, here is the thing. i think jay carney released a statement. the president is not engaging with republicans to find a solution. he came out yesterday in the briefing room and was animated but didn't engage with them. is that a mistake? >> reporter: well, you know, not

at this point. this has been a republican fight internally. i don't think the president could pick up the phone and call john boehner and say hey, john, what can i do to help you to work this out with your republicans? you know, that isn't going to go anywhere. boehner decided, in fact, he wants to play to his, this group in his republican party to get them on board, show united front, toss it over to harry reid in the senate. i think the president spoke his piece. at a certain point, the american public looks to the president for leadership. i think he's going to have to intervene and try to knockheads, lbj, if that can work, who knows. for right now, there's nothing he can do so he's sitting back. >> he's kind of sitting back. gloria, i want to look at, there is a new poll i want to take a look at.

new york times/cbs poll shows 87% of americans would be frustrated if the government shuts down. 87% would be frustrated. 10% would be satisfied. >> right. >> let's break it down by political party. >> nobody -- >> yeah. go ahead. >> nobody -- look, nobody is happy. you know, the question is, who are they going to blame more for this? but, i think, why shouldn't the american public be frustrated? they don't want to shut the government down. they don't like obama care, many don't. many republicans have been saying to their fellow republicans, be careful what you wish for because you are going to get it. you are going to get the shutdown and the public may blame you. so, you know, this is about

jockeying and who gets blamed. right now, if you look at some of the polls, the public will blame the republicans more. that will gradually shift but they are going to look for leadership. >> i thought it was interesting in the poll, it's not as high as one would think that they are going to blame republicans. they would blame the president, not blaming democrats. democrats aren't really involved in this, are they? it's the president and republicans. >> reporter: you know, the democrats are going to meet this afternoon in the house. harry reid, the leader of the senate democrats says he's not going to come back. they are not blaming the democrats right now. the democrats are sitting back and the republicans are actively saying we will shut down the government unless you defund obama care. right now, the democrats are like the president, not the major players in all this. it's been the republicans trying to figure out how to deal with this. at a certain point, by the way,

all of washington will get blamed. everybody recognizes this is no way to do business. >> okay. all right. stand by gloria. i appreciate that. i want to go today that bash now. you have with you congressman jeff of texas. we are going to talk to him for a little bit. i want you to do most of the interviewing here. i really want to know what's going on in their heads and what's going on in the halls of congress. dana, go ahead. >> reporter: that's right, don. we are honored to have you. thank you for coming. i want to start with maybe the obvious question. major point. you voted to defund obama care. it went to the senate. they rejected it. why bring us to the brink by doing something else that senate democrats said is a nonstarter there? >> what we are asking for is somebody will sit down and actually negotiate it. it's our constitutional duty to have the power of the purse and yet the president says i'll

negotiate with iranians and syrians and russians. he won't negotiate with -- >> what do you want to negotiate over? >> we want to negotiate, we are negotiating what we are going to put on the floor of the house of representatives tonight. we understand you believe in your health care program. it's not ready for prime time. two days ago, the president was speaking about the roll out. 20 minutes later, they have another delay on top of the employer delay. we now have the small business exchange delay. so, regardless whether you believe in this or not, something as big, as important as the health care, something we believe is harming the economy and economic growth, can we at least agree it's not ready for prime time or 3:00 a.m. infomercial. it's what we have asked. and importantly, there's at least one tax, a tax on pacemakers, a tax on artificial hips that frankly 79 members of

the united states senate voted on. harry reid, himself, called it a stupid idea -- >> which he corrected himself on for the record. >> was it a foolish idea? it's been voted on. were they against it before they were for it? lots of americans are working this weekend. i don't understand why the president can't work and those in the united states senate can't work. >> reporter: i will tell you the reason they give, this is from jay carney. anybody who votes for the bill is voting for a shutdown. yes, you have the house, you don't have the senate and you don't have the white house. isn't that what you are doing? >> maybe they are shutting it down. senator of west virginia says we ought to lay it for a year. the first democrat, every single day that people are having to deal with obama care, it's

getting less and less popular. i can't pick up my own constituent now. just today, a guy said i got cut back to 29 hours. another said you know what? my health care premiums went up $1,500. can we delay it because it's not ready? why can't the senate work on a weekend and why can't the president get off the golf course and negotiate? >> even if they work, it's democrats. they are going to reject what you said. >> how do we know until we try? i mean we have a democratic senator saying he believes in delay. >> reporter: he says he's going to vote against it. >> a senator from montana calls it a train wreck. we understand they rejected defunding. here is something different. we are trying to be reasonable. we are trying to negotiate and they are saying it's my way or the highway. aren't they the ones bringing

shutdown? the american people have to judge. i hope it doesn't come down to that. people care about their health care and their jobs and want us to fight for them. >> reporter: let me ask you about fighting for them. it's obvious republicans unanimously don't like the law. they didn't vote for it and ran against it in two campaigns. it's clear because some republican colleagues said so publicly, some said privately they didn't want the strategy. the idea of attaching this to something as important as a bill funding the government is the wrong way to go and feel they were pushed into this by your senator from texas, ted cruz. is there some truth to the fact ted cruz has more power than john boehner? >> when you talk a spending bill, it's almost $2 trillion. how can you sit here and ignore the health care problem if you are voting on a spending bill?

this is part and parcel to a spending bill. i don't think you can talk to any small business person in america who doesn't tell you one of the greatest challenges they have is dealing with obama care and small business is the job engine of america. it brings in revenue. i think we are derelict if we didn't try to deal with obama care. we get it. they rejected defunding. now we are putting on the table delay. the united states senate, they can be the slowest institution in america. when they want to, they can be the quickest. they can snap their fingers and deem a bill. we have all weekend. we invite them to come back from the golf courses and work on behalf of the people in america like we do. >> reporter: what happens on monday morning if the markets open and tumble or get spooked? will that be enough to get everybody here spooked as well? >> we are here, the house is here, the republican house is here. >> reporter: to vote to fund the

government is a different thing. >> republicans have voted to fund the government. we are going to continue to vote to fund the government. it's those who, again, won't sit down and negotiate and use the hyperbole who aren't listening to the same constituents we are that small businesses can't hire and obama care is not ready. why have we delayed it for employers but not employees? it's crazy. all we are asking for, if it's not ready for prime time, don't force it on the people. >> before you let him go -- >> reporter: yes. >> i have to ask the question, i'm sure people at home are asking the same thing. i hear republicans coming out and saying democrats are voting. they are voting to shut the government down. i don't understand that logic or rational. can you explain that to me, congressman? >> i don't understand the contrary. republicans voted to keep the government open. so, thus, if they don't take up

the bill, the main thing is we are trying to sit here and work and negotiate. the american people don't want the government shut down. at the same time, every single day obama care gets less and less popular. i understand we can't agree on defunding it, but can't we at least agree -- if we have 1100 waivers of the program, if just two days ago they delayed again another key aspect of the bill, that being the small business exchange rollout. it's a program that is not ready on the american people. >> i understand that -- >> it takes two bodies to come together and the president to sign it. you seem to sign one party. >> no, i'm asking the question because i don't understand and many people don't understand why you say democrats want to shut the government down when republicans are the people who are threatening to shut it down.

you answered my question -- hang on, hang on, hang on, you answered my questions -- >> you made an assertion that my party was threatening to shut it down. where is the fact? >> you are the party that attached obama care to shutting the government down. >> it's part of the budget. it's part of the budget. we are debating a spending bill. obama care is part of that. what you are saying -- >> who put it in the bill. >> on behalf of your party, hey, whatever the president or the senate offers, well, you know, i understand people elected the president, i understand they elected to have the senate and democrats the same people elected to vote the republicans in the house. they expect us to negotiate and negotiate in good faith. the president refuses to negotiate. the senate went home for the weekend. that's regrettable. there's time to work this out but, again, obama care is a key

part of the economy, not just our health care, but a key part of our economy. it's a key part of our debt. i hope the president and harry reid want to negotiate in good faith. it's what we are hoping for. >> congressman, thank you for much. i have to get to the white house now. there is breaking news. you probably want to hear this. dana, congressman, stand by. i want to get to jim ma costa at the white house. you have developing news for us, what is that? >> reporter: developing news but not a news flash. the white house issued a veto threat saying the president would veto that this house continuing resolution package expected to be voted on later this evening. to read a quote, by including measure that is have no place in a government funding bill and the president and senate made clear or unacceptable house republicans are pushing the

government toward shutdown, that echoes what jay carney said earlier this afternoon in a statement. it says the president has shown he issing with to improve the health care law and meet republicans more than half way to deal with the fiscal challenges but will not do so under threats of a shutdown that hurts the economy. any member of the republican party who votes on this is voting for a shutdown. it is time to act as the senate has in a reasonable way to keep the government running and move on. jay carney saying the house republicans move on. i wanted to throw that out to you. it sums up the position here. we have been talking about this all day and the president has said he will not sign anything into law that delays or defunds obama care. they feel that's been litigated not only in elections but the supreme court. he will not tinker with obama care under the threat of a

government shutdown. it's a red line or whatever you want to call it. they are not budging. >> it's so frustrating. i'm channelling what the viewer at home must be thinking listens to people come out from both sides. it's very frustrating for americans. thank you, jim. we'll get back to you at the white house. as we wait on word of a vote on congress, yep, on a saturday, time is running out to avoid a government shutdown. my last two guests, the next two guests last hour, we sent them to their separate corners after their bout. they are back i'm talking ben ferguson and maria cardona after the break.

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>> first of all, don, let's be clear that in all the polls that show the american people don't like obama care, 15% to 20% of those polled say they don't like it because they are liberal and progressive and don't think it goes far enough. the polls are not to be believed on their face. they don't like it because they think it should go further than it does. number two, if you look at polls done state by state where benefits of obama care have been implemented, the majority of them want to give it a chance to work. they don't want it repealed. they want it to have a chance to work. they want leaders to work together if there are things about it to be fixed. the president said clearly, he is open to republicans ideas if they have any on how to better implement the affordable care

act, but they should not and cannot make it something that is connected to the government shutdown. it's ridiculous. >> ben -- >> the obama care, yes, let's talk. >> i know what ben is going to say. they didn't let us at the table when they passed the law. why would they do it now. that was then and this is now. you can't keep going back. >> i can keep going back. it's reality. >> i realize you want negotiations. you say we don't live in a dictatorsh dictatorship. republicans don't have the votes, period. why even bring up the -- put us on the brink of a shutdown. this is like hostage taking? >> who is in charge right now? the president of the united states of america is in charge. if he chooses not to negotiate at all, he is choosing to shut down the government by not

negotiating at all. that is the fact. you want to try to act as if the republicans are to blame because they do have the votes in the house. first of all, he said i will not negotiate with the republicans. so, that would answer your first question, don. >> on this! >> on this. what is there to negotiate? >> there's negotiating one, what they are looking at now, are we ready for obama care and if we delay it by a year. california is saying they are not ready to get insurance companies the applications for at least 60 days. >> hang on, let me get in here. why not say hey, listen, we need to negotiate on obama care but we are not going to tie it to a government shutdown. keep the two separate. then work on it. >> don, you are smart, you know this. barack obama does not negotiate. it's obvious, for the last five years on obama care, he's refused to move any at all.

it's why so many democrats like him. he's refused to negotiate for five years. the reality of where we are right now and the majority of americans -- >> what about single payers? >> should that be negotiated? i think it should be. >> negotiated out of the bill. because of republicans. >> look today at what the president said coming from the white house. they are now threateni ining a . they said whatever you do in the house, we don't care you have the majority and the majority of american people are against obama care. we refuse to listen. how can you blame the republicans for that being the shutdown? >> ben, i think you have a great point when it comes to obama care, the american public would like to work it out. they will work it out in the polls and the election. they will vote whoever in and out of office. itis not the same thing as the government shutdown. when it comes to obama care, you

are using it as -- it's like taking people hostage saying we are going to drive you over the cliff unless we get our way. >> you are acting as if the voters didn't already vote. when they took away the majority from barack obama's party in the house. you can't overlook that. the government is working the way it's supposed to work when people don't like things. hold on -- the republicans are in charge in the house because they didn't like the democrats in charge. you have to respect that. the president, apparently, does not respect what the american voters said when they said we don't want you in charge of all branches of government. >> you know what else you can't overlook? >> go ahead. >> the 2012 election. obama care. for god's sake, the american people -- the american -- they did awful. >> they did awful until the bill was passed. >> the american people reelected this president. let me point a scenario out to

you. >> i have to go. hurry up. >> what about the -- what if they demanded, instead of getting rid of obama care, for the president to step down. >> that's ridiculous. we are not asking for that. >> it is equal. >> we have to go. ben, you wouldn't want the president to step down? >> no. i want him to finish out the term because he's elected president. i respect the voters and who they pick. >> you respect the voters. stop telling the voters you are going to shut down their government if you respect them so much. >> exactly. >> ben. all right. thank you. i listen. i am not on either side. it's frustrating. the people at home are upset. i'm not. i think it's ridiculous. i think it's ridiculous that people are threatening to hold the american people hostage over something because they are mad at someone or they don't like

something. negotiate on the issue and not the american public's economy. people can't get passports, come on, guys. thank you. see you soon. all right. it came out of nowhere for anyone alive the past 30 years. it seems too hard to fathom, iran and the u.s. can we get past the past? some can. some are not happy about this. coming up, ten people fall victim to chicago violence. it's just overnight. can something called a gang summit be the answer? the humble back seat.

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the united nations security council did something rare. they agreed on a resolution aimed at syria. even russia voted yes demanding syria eliminate their chemical arsenal. nick walsh is here. he is our senior national

correspondent. they couldn't find an agreement for years. what is different this time? >> it's tough consequences. it outlines the next step if syria doesn't get rid of the chemical weapons program soon enough. give up the stockpile. this lays out what would happen in the event people think they are not moving fast enough. >> you said there are consequences if syria doesn't comply. are they spelled out in this resolution sfl. >> the americans wanted a trigger that would authorize force if they didn't comply with the resolution. they will come back and talk about it again and have another vote. that is basically the issue. it's the watering down. it spells out clearly what kind of conversation they would have if syria doesn't comply. it doesn't say they are the sanctions we'll take. >> an important player in this is iran. how much is iran going to help

in this, i guess, partner in helping in the civil war if they are going help at all? >> he said he was against intervention in syria, but wanted the people to have a chance to work out their own future. iran is still standing by bashar al assad. they agreed last year and says it's agreed by russia, america and everybody. for this to have a peaceful solution, we need a transformational government. by putting that in the resolution, the u.n. security council agrees there should be a transitional government. >> before i let you go, i want to talk now that the resolution is passed, how long before the work physically begins removing weapons, inspectors on the ground? >> 20 guys arrive on tuesday in damascus. inspectors, they start the process. if they come across things they

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the white house threatening to veto a bill to undermine obama care. here is a statement from the president. if the president was presented with hj resolution 59 as amended by these amendments he would veto the bill. the house is set to vote tonight. a repeal of a new tax on medical devices that would help fund obama care. it faces rejection from both the senate and president obama unless there is a budget deal by midnight monday, the government will shut down. it is a new documentary called "the muslims are coming." the co-stars and co-directors of the film are here to talk about it.

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it is a sad truth that in some places in america, muslim is a dirty word, even, maybe especially for people who don't even know a muslim. all this for the second most popular religion. our next guests are trying to debunk things about muslims. the documentary is "the muslims are coming." a muslim booth in the town center. >> tell me why i haven't seen muslims who are not extremists criticizing muslim's who are

extreme? >> why are not the people of peace speaking out against the people doing these things? >> i kind of resent sometimes when people are like muslim's need to prove to us they are not dangerous. why? why do i have to prove to you i am not dangerous? you are the dangerous one. i should be more afraid of you. >> well, our next guests are co-stars and directors of the film. we have a political comedian, if you want to call him a comedian and contributor to the daily beast, if you want to call him a contributor. when people walk out of the theater, what is the take away here? >> well, the take away is, we see so many images of muslims. basically, we know them to be violent, dusty dudes walking around the desert with ak-47s. we want to change that. we want to give people a counter example of what muslim's are. sometimes they hang out, go bowling and they are fun. >> you are talking stereo types, right? what is the one you want people

to rethink that is not accurate about muslims? >> that they are funny. w don't want you to think we are a terrorist. don't roll your eyes. muslims are looking better than congress. obviously, the stereotype is violence and terrorism. we are trying to fight that. and people asked questions about why don't we see them denounce terrorism? we try to do that. i have done it on your show. >> we have had that -- remember we had an ask a muslim segment. did you get that idea from our show? >> this was two years ago, don. unbelievable. >> come on. come on. >> no holes barred, that show. we tackled a lot of great topics, including, why don't muslims speak out against the extremis extremists. you say they do all the time. >> they do all the time. do we set up a daily tweet?

part of the reason they don't get coverage is a bunch of reasonable people denouncing violence is not great news. i don't think that it gets as much attention. >> i get your point. are you getting support in your community? are there muslims who say i don't want this film? are you getting full support? >> we have been lucky. people in the community have been supportive. is this designed for everybody in the muslim community? absolutely not. >> why is that? >> there's cursing and discussion of genitals. my genitals, specifically. itis not -- it doesn't work for everybody. it's a comedy film and it's subjective. i think i would offend conservative jews and christians in equal parts. >> it has the spectrum of muslims. he prays five times a day to something who is secular.

i'm secular. people have not seen that face. people don't think american muslim and secular. they think christian and jews. >> where can we see the movie? >> itunes. amazon. >> it's playing in new york and boston. it will play in nashville. we are going to be in d.c. in theaters, cable on demand. >> every time a guest enters a building, i get an e-mail saying your guest is here. it says the muslim's are coming. >> people check out the film. if you convert to islam, you get in free. it's fun on the marquee to see that. i'm not kidding. >> you know what brb means? >> i'm going to have to google it when i get back. >> be right back. ♪ ♪

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here we go again, ten people wounded on the streets of chicago. the violence plagued the city for years. one of the most agreenlgous cases was earlier this month. we covered it extensively on this show. a shooting that injured 13 people including a 3-year-old child. luckily everyone survived this. this man right here, 22-year-old

david logan is the fifth suspect arrested in connection with the shooting. rosa florez joins me now. you talked to police. >> the police are very positive. when you see in one night ten people wounded, hear this folks, some of these people drove themselves or walked themselves to the hospital. local and national leaders are in chicago hosting a gang summit. the goal is to solve the issues impacting the community there. they are having workshops, panel discussions and will be talking to youth about jobs and internships. they are trying to show them a way out of the streets. if you look at the demographics, don, of this, there's nine males, one female. the age range is between 15 and 22. some of them tell the police they were simply out there on the street. they heard gunshots and then they realized they were wounded.

they, of course, in some cases are skeptical of that. in all these cases, no one is in custody. >> it is interesting that no one is in custody. some of these cases are related, right? >> they are saying perhaps they are not related. they are regionally or geographically related. go to the scene, figure out and identify suspects. they are having the gang summit. we have talked about this a lot. cnn covered a lot of crime. it's happening in a lot of different cities. it's sad. they are having a gang summit, trying to solve the issues and you see this overnight. >> we were there a few years ago, we were interviewing the person that had the solutions, so to speak, then there was a shooting as we were doing the interview. >> so sad. >> thank you. appreciate your recording. he says he loves his life so much, he doesn't need an alarm clock to wake up because he haven't wait to start his day.

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his late night talk show was a phenomena in the late 1990s. he's back. arsenio hall bringing the humor and charm back to late night tv. i sat down with him in los

angeles and you may be surprised to know how much the funny man is a family man. >> here is something i never said to anybody. every day that i was away, either by phone or in person, i had to hear annie hall say to me, sure wish you would go back and do the talk show. i can watch that boy. i wish you would go back and do the talk show. i didn't think i was going back. it's like ma, i'm out. i'll do something else. but, that's not going to happen. i didn't think it was possible. but, she's the happiest of all the people in america's dog pound. one of the great things about fatherhood is it made me appreciate parenthood more. i didn't know, you know, because i do it with a lot of blessings that my mother didn't have. you know? it's easier for me to parent.

i'm a very successful man. i remember when my mother said i'm not hungry, you eat. she was lying. there wasn't enough food. i could tell you stories -- i was about to say stories you wouldn't believe but i know a little about you. you would believe it. as a father, i appreciate what she did more. my mother worked a lot of jobs and you know, had baby sitters. i was a latch key kid. there were times when i had a publicist ask me recently if my mom had pictures of me in little league or trick or treating, halloween costumes because they were doing a thing on celebrities and childhood. i knew i didn't have any. my mother wasn't taking pictures. i don't know if she had a camera. she wasn't taking pictures

because she wasn't there. she was at work. and you know, when your mother works so hard to get you where you are, and you know what? i didn't make it easy. you know, i didn't make it easy. i was an active kid. i was an imaginative kid. i was bad sometimes. i know how hard it was to raise me, therefore -- >> you have seen a lot in your 30-something years. are things -- things are different than when we were kids, right? do you have any advice for young people? >> mmm -- i don't have advice for young people. >> their parents? >> i have advice as a daddy, they need you. my mother said i love that your show is back on. when you walk to say hi, you

walk like your daddy used to walk. i'm so glad is show is back on. >> don't you love that, though? it just gives you everything. it gives me everything when i hear that. you look like your daddy on tv. >> yeah. so many problems in our society can be cured if fathers realize how important they are. notice i didn't say black fathers, i said fathers. so many dads don't know there's a yin and yang. if you are not there, there's a hole in a child's soul. by the way, from drug abuse to crime to, you name it, so many things in our society could be changed for the better if fathers knew how important -- i don't say that because of the father i am. i say that because of the child

i was. you know, my mother and father got divorced when i was 5 years old. i don't think that he knew that the ten things that i'll remember that will get me by will be things you said to me, dad. if there's anything i regret about my childhood, it's that i wish i had more dad in here. you know? i wish i had more conversations. you ever have that dream that he came back for one more conversation? i have that dream all the time because i longed for it. so many questions i wish i could ask my father. that's why i realize, it's more important than he realized. he has made me but he had no idea, he has made me the dad i am today. i'm not a perfect dad or a great dad, but i