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the cockpit mid flight. an amazing story. >> you can only imagine be in this guy's shoes. he had never flown a plane in his life. didn't know the first thing about flying, he managed to land it safely. >> this morning we're going to talk to the flight instructor who walked this passenger through the process, landing the plane from the air traffic control tower. this guy didn't even know much
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about this plane, he had never flown this model. you want to stay with us for that. of course the big story this morning -- president obama rejecting the house plan to raise the debt ceiling without reopening the government first. well now a competing plan to accomplish both is coming together in the senate. >> and sources say gop senators will give the house a couple of days max to get a deal before they move ahead full throttle. cnn's athena jones is at the capitol where both the senate and the house will be working today. athena, tell us more about this plan in the senate. >> good morning, victor. well the plan that republican senator susan collins presented to president obama when the senate republicans went over to the white house for their meeting yesterday, does a few things, you mentioned that first of all it both reopens the government and raises the debt ceiling. and that's something the president has said he wants to see out of any plan. it would also repeal a medical, repeal or delay a medical device
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tax that helps fund obama care. this is a tax and this delay or repeal of the tax has gotten some bipartisan support. that's something they think they could get through. another thing it does is gives federal agencies more flexibility to manage these forced, deep spending cuts they've been operating under. so those are the basic outlines of the plan. this is what senator susan collins said in summing up how the president responded to this plan. >> the president listened carefully. he said that some of the elements were inches we could work on. at least he's talking to members of congress on both sides of the aisle. he may not want to call it a negotiation, that's what i would call it. >> and we've heard that theme a lot from republicans over the past couple of days. we heard the president say he would negotiate. budgetary issues after the government is reopened and the debt ceiling is raised. you hear a lot of republicans
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say look, he's already sitting down and negotiating, this is something that's making them happy. vikt center. >> athevictor? >> athena, this is anna, are the house and senate talking to each other? in order to get something passed, both have to sign off. are they in negotiations with each other? >> it's unclear where those negotiations are taking place. if you talk to members of congress in the hallways, they say that people are talking to each other. but in terms of pinning down sort of conference committee, that we don't know much about that right now. i can tell you that the house today or as soon as this weekend, could vote on their plan, which of course just raises the debt lilt for six weeks until november 22nd. and we also know that in the senate today, senator harry reid plans to hold a vote on a so-called clean debt limit that would raise the debt limit for a year. there's some republicans who say they don't want to see the vote take place.
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that's just a political stunt. it's not going to be helpful to the larger conversations going on. that's what we'll be watching for today. and looking and listening to find out what other kinds of conversations are going on behind closed doors that get us closer to a deal that could pass both houses. >> athena jones on capitol hill this morning. she's been standing out there in new york harbor for 1 lonely days without any visitors. well now the statue of liberty and other federal landmarks will be reopening. the state of new york says it's losing too many tourist dollars because of the shutdown and it will pay the national park service $61,000 a day to operate liberty island. arizona struck a similar deal with the federal government to open the grand canyon. it will pay the national park service more than $650,000 to operate the park for at least a week. stocks are rallying and wall street is hopeful that a debt deal may be within reach. >> investors pushed the dow
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higher friday, gaining back all the losses since the shutdown. day after day a loss and our alison kosik is following the market moves along with all the top money news. >> it was a crazy week on wall street, all because of washington, triple-digit losses on monday and tuesday as investors worried about the looming debt ceiling deadline. thursday, a breakthrough on capitol hill, as a deal became a possibility. the dow soared more than 300 points, the biggest jump in almost two years. stocks ended mixed for the week. jp morgan chase is facing a $7 billion legal bill after taxes. battling a slew of lawsuits relating to the housing crisis. the hefty bill caused the bank to lose money last quarter, marking the first loss since jamie diamond became ceo nine years ago. it's official, proex nominated janet yellin to be chairman of the federal reserve. if confirmed, she'll be the first woman to lead the
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100-year-old central bank. yellin is expected to keep ben bernanke's easy money policies in place a bit longer. the new $100 bill debuted thursday, it has ink that changes color. except for $1 and $2, all paper currency has been redesigned in the past decade to prevent counterfeiting. going to the atm, leave the debit card at home. three banks are testing out cardless atms, an app on your smartphone allows you to order money. you go to the atm, scan the phone and money comes out. are you about to be stuck with a massive bill because of washington's dysfunction? fareed zakaria joins christine romans for an emergency edition of "your money." thank you. three bikers have been indicted in connection with the violent clash involving this suv driver
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in new york. the charges against craig wright, reginald chance and robert sims. two more officers are being investigated for being with the bikers during that confrontation. eight minutes after the hour, a top general in charge of nuclear ballistic missiles has been fired. the air force says it's revealed, relieved major general michael carey of his command due to a loss of trust and confidence in his leadership. he's been under investigation over reports of misbehavior. and the air force says the firing is not related to the security of the country's nuclear weapons. also this week, the deputy chief at u.s. strategic demand was demoted reportedly over gambling allegations. another big story this morning -- a potentially deadly tropical cyclone is bearing down on northeastern india. this thing is huge. >> it's phailin, more than 1500
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miles wide, if you're having some difficulty putting your mind around that. that's roughly the distance from maine to miami. yeah, this thing is huge, packing maximum sustained winds of 150 miles per hour. >> equal to a strong category 4 hurricane. now more than 440,000 people, almost half a million people have been evacuated. authorities say hurricane-strength winds could affect nearly 8.5 million people. >> phailin is expected to make landfall in about six hours. indian officials are taking a zero casualty approach. that means they're forcing people to get out. even if they want to stay put. >> they're taking shuttles and bringing people through the neighborhoods. let's bring in meteorologist karen mcginnis, break it down how bad could the storm be? >> it could be devastating. and the comparisons are being made between this tropical cyclone and what happened back in 1999, a very similar scenario.
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where a very large system. if you look at the entire bay of bengal. this system engulfs the entire bay of bengal. they're saying it is near a category 4 hurricane-like winds. they use different measurements there. but potentially across this region as it makes its way towards the northwest, we could see millions of people affected. it's low-lying area, very humble buildings here, so easily flooded, especially with the storm surge. as i mentioned, it's just about ready to make landfall, once it does, it could be downgraded to possibly a category 2 or the equivalent of that. but that's going to bring the storm surge along the rivers and potentially flood out areas well inland before it becomes downgraded to a tropical depression. >> thank you for staying on top of that. the weather in the southeast is been really good this week. some students got a chance to actually skip school. i love this story. >> the feel-good story. get our weekend started right. well the headmaster of private
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christian school in columbus, georgia, decided it was too beautiful on friday to stay inside. our cnn affiliate, wtvm reports len mcwilliams promised himself decades ago to find a positive reason to cancel class. >> why can't more professors, more teachers, more principals take that idea into hand. a lovely day came just in time. mcwilliams retires at the end of the year. >> i can't imagine when your principal says, you know what, we're canceling class today, it's just too nice. >> he's now the students' favorite principal of all time. malala visits the white house. the pakistani teenager who has inspired the world with her courage has a message for the president. and a stunning fbi raid. have you heard about this? two rabbis are accused of pocketing thousands of dollars to kidnap and torture orthodox jewish husbands. is this the bacon and cheese diet?
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white house, maybe you can make it out near the bottom of the screen. good morning, washington, d.c., right now 64 degrees, cloudy, it's been a rainy few days. it's going to rain tonight, tomorrow, monday. but the sun is coming out hopefully on tuesday. >> and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. >> talking about rain? i don't know. >> we all have our challenges, and the next character in our story is certainly a great example of how to overcome those hurdles in life. >> president obama and the first lady welcomed a very special guest to the white house yesterday. >> yeah, they met malala yousafzai. the president proclaimed friday the international day of the girl. malala is the pakistani teenager, you remember her name. she was shot by the taliban and nearly won this year's nobel peace prize. the first family thanked malala for working so hard for girls' rights to an education. >> the 16-year-old said she told the president she was worried u.s. drones are fueling
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terrorism and killing innocent people in pakistan. >> every time you hear her story, she's really inspiring. two new york rabbis, a crazy story, facing stunning charges. >> the fbi says orthodox jewish women paid the rabbis thousands of dollars to arrange the kidnappings and torture of husbands, who refused to grant them a divorce. cnn's rosa flores is following the case for us this morning, good morning, rosa. >> did sounds like a movie plot, a wife wants to divorce, the husband doesn't want to grant it, so she talks to her rabbi, who helps her hire a few quote tough guys to get the job done. well, unfortunately folks, this is a real-life description of alleged events described in detail in court documents that reveal ten people, including two rabbis, now face kidnapping charges. now, take a look. the fbi raided two new york locations wednesday night, exposing what undercover fbi agents had been working on for
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months. one agent posing as an orthodox jewish wife who wanted a divorce. now court documents note a conversation with one of the rabbis went like this. quote, basically, what we are going to be doing is kidnapping a guy for a couple of hours and beating him up and torturing him and then getting him to give the get. according to orthodox jewish law, a get is a document that a husband must provide his wife, to obtain a divorce. and the price for getting this forced get was pretty high -- court documents say it cost $10,000 for the rabbis to approve the kidnapping first and then an additional $50,000 to pay the quote tough guys who do the beating and obtain the get. it's key to note, however, that the importance of the get within the orthodox jewish community is extremely important for a woman for example, it's a huge implication, if she doesn't get one. she risks being shunned, even
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labeled assen adulterer. men who don't get gets, have been shamed in the orthodox community jewish newspapers. >> an unspeakable crime. any time you have individuals who go against other legal, lawful people who are just living their lives, and violence is committed. >> we don't think all the defendants are equal. we believe some of the defendants might have been motivated by money. we don't believe that that will end up being proven to be the case with rabbi walmer. >> two named rabbis are mendle epstein and rabbi martin wolmark. if convicted, we should add, they face a maximum sentence of life in prison. >> what a wild story. >> thank you, rosa flores in new
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york. did the idea that especially rabbis would be going out to commit these type of -- >> people that people trust, you think they're ethical. you think they're the moral standard, right? >> we'll continue to follow that. still to come this morning -- tragedy strikes one of football's biggest stars this was all over social media. if you've been following the story. the 2-year-old son of adrian peterson killed, the apparent victim of child abuse. who is charged? we'll have that story next. [ male announcer ] you know what they say. ♪ no pain... ♪ no pain. ♪ the gillette fusion proglide, precision equipment with less tug, less pull, for unrivaled comfort even on sensitive skin. so you can go get it. gillette -- the best a man can get.
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this morning. minnesota vikings star, adrian peterson, is mourning the death of his 2-year-old son, the apparent victim of child abuse. >> the boyfriend of the infant's mother has been arrested. charged with aggravated assault and battery of an infant. if he's convicted, he could face up to 40 years in prison. >> peterson has remained pretty quiet about this tragedy, only taking to twitter to express gratitude to his family, fans and the fraternity of brothers in the nfl for their support. cnn sports andy scholes joins us with more. friends, athletes also on twitter voicing their support. this is just difficult to even kind of wrap your mind around. >> what a tragic situation that peterson is going through right now. he received thousands and thousands of tweets of everyone offering their condolences to him. and the nfl players even nba players, baseball players, everyone going to twitter to express thoughts in this tragic situation. lebron tweeted quite a few times about this.
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one of his tweets, says so damn sad, makes no sense at all. innocent kid with dreams gets taken away by a coward with no dreams at all. smh means shaking my head, #sickforap. >> after receiving all the tweets and messages, adrian peterson went on twitter and spoke about the situations. he said thank you to my family and fans for their support. he said the nfl is a fraternity of brothers, i'm thankful for the tweets, phone calls and text messages from my fellow players. god bless everyone and thank you so much. >> your heart just goes out to him. as the mother of a 2-year-old i found this hard to imagine, how do you get through the next day and the next. but it sounds like peterson is planning to play this weekend. >> reporters asked him after practice, before the news broke that his son had passed away, if he was going to play and he said yes, i'm going to play because football right now is therapeutic for me. here's what he had to say after practice. >> you know, football is
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something i'll always fall back on, it gets me through tough times. just being around the guys in here. that's what i need. my life is sports and i'm able to release you know, a lot of my stress through the sport. >> of course this could change today, leslie frasier, the head coach, said they're going to ask him if he wants to play. >> everyone copes in his own way. >> maybe it will be therapeutic. andy, thank you so much. still to come on new day, the days of keeping your facebook profile private -- they're gone. the site making some major changes again. this time it's about who can search for you on the site. plus, a passenger is forced to land a plane for the first time, at night. the flight instructor who helped save his life, joins us in about 15 minutes. [ female announcer ] take skincare to the next level
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potentially catastrophic tropical cyclone churns toward shore, more than 440,000 people have pled so far. not taking any chances as phailin is more than 1500 miles wide. roughly the distance from maine to miami, as strong as a category 4 hurricane, with winds as strong as 150 miles per hour and the winds already whipping the coastal areas. the landfall expected around noon eastern. north korea is passing on an offer that could improve relations with the united states. according to the "associated press," north korea says it will not sign a nonaggression pact with washington, secretary of state john kerry offered the deal if north korea would give up its nuclear program. number three, for the second time this week, a top commander in charge of the country's nuclear missiles has been relieved of command. the u.s. air force said it lost trust in major general michael carey's leadership and judgment. he been under investigation over
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reports of misbehavior. number four, a zoo keeper was killed by an elephant in a missouri zoo, it's not clear what caused the 41-year-old elephant to charge and crush john bradford, a 30-year veteran of the zoo. according to reports, the animal will not be euthanized. and something that will affect you if you're on facebook. the social media site is changing privacy policies. getting rid of a setting that could keep your profile invisible from certain people. so now anyone can search for you on this network. facebook said the setting was confusing anyway for users and only a small percentage of people used it. >> i used it. >> let's get back to our top story this morning. the hope of the debt deal in washington. so far, though, neither side has agreed upon terns. >> until a deal is signed, a the love americans may find their financial fate hanging in the balance.
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tom foreman joining us with a look at where the mess started and what it could mean for you if our country defaults. tom? >> ana -- [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> i think if you just clear your throat, all that comes out. >> it's early, it's the weekend. >> somebody please get tom some water. clearly we had a technical thing there. tom? let's see. >> that would make a difference, because if interest rates go up, that means fewer people can afford houses and because they can't afford houses, demand and prices start going down instead of up as they have been. and this isn't just about housing, this could be about 200 million construction jobs. and it could be about any money you wanted to borrow for a business or a new car for example. second area of concern, basic payments from the government. if you or anybody in your family relies on social security or veterans' benefits or medicare or any of those things, you may
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find that there's a lot of wait going on out there. you may not be getting the checks or they may not be as big as you expect. there are about 148 million people in this country who currently rely on this type of assistance, that's about half of the population. a little bit less. that could have a massive impact. and with businesses out there not able to count on that, then you start talking about the impact on jobs. we lost about 8 million jobs during the recession in this country. and we really haven't -- [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> we tried it, we tried it. but we got most of the information. tom foreman, thank you very much. coming up on "new day" drama in the skies, a pilot falls ill while he's flying, a passenger is there, forced to step in. how he landed a plane under all that pressure. plus engaged or not? well the rumors are swirling around prince harry and his girlfriend.
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welcome back, let's take a look at what's happening around the world. first to tripoli, where the libyan foreign ministry is on fire this morning. literally. the cause of this fire is not yet known. it comes just days after the prime minister was kidnapped and released by an armed militia. well he's now firing back against his abductors. and cnn's senior international correspondent, knick robertson has more on that.
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>> ana, the prime minister here is on the offensive, accusing his kidnappers of attempting a coup and he said lawmakers were behind it. flanked by his ministers he appeared in a televised address, trying to bolster his image damaged by the kidnapping and he seemed to link the u.s. arrest here last weekend of an al qaeda suspect to his kidnapping. he has vowed to continue to chase those down responsible and prosecute them. ana? >> nic robertson, thank you. now to sao paolo, brazil. where some people are impressed by a daring attempted prison break. >> an unusual attempt to break out of jail. a brazilian inmate checked pieces of left-over bath soap, stuck them together to create a mask that looked like one of his prison guards, he even painted on stubble and eyebrows, but he was busted when authorities heard rumors someone was trying
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to escape, and they went from cell to cell until they found the mask. they say, however, there are no hard feelings and they're going to offer the inmate art classes so he can put his talents to better use. back to you, ana. >> he is quite the artist. thanks. and to london, where everyone is talking about prince harry. yes, he's making news again. and apparently he has a very serious girlfriend. people are wondering whether or not he's going to pop the question. our max foster is in london this morning. max? >> creidda bonas is all over the press, photographed with prince harry and now making headlines across the pond. prince harry's girlfriend, known as cressie, is now on "people" magazine for the first time. she's 24 years old, from an old aristocratic family. and if the rumors in london are true, she'll soon announce her
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engagement to a prince. the palace is not commenting on those reports. ana? >> max foster reporting, thank you. and victor, did you even know prince harry had a girlfriend in. >> no, i didn't. i thought he was kind of the bachelor. i didn't know he had a girlfriend. >> she's a cutie. >> congratulations. this nightmare scenario, straight out of the movies. a passenger is forced to land this plane after his pilot becomes ill. all of this went down in a dark skies over great britain. again, it's night. john wilby, a passenger who had no experience, safely brought down a four-seater cessna in the dark. he described the final moments of the emergency landing. listen. >> i didn't know what i was doing. i did a few hops and bumps and a crash-landing type landing. that was it. i couldn't reach the brakes and then i did. and then i sort of spun off on
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to the side. >> how did he do that? >> two flight instructors were called to give the passenger impromptu lessons on how to fly and how to stay cool under pressure. one of those instructors, roy, is joining us now from england. good to have you on the phone with us. this is unbelievable. how were you able to do something like this, helping someone land a plane for the first time in the dark in. >> well, good morning. yes, it was quite difficult at the time. we had poor john had a very lot of things against him at the time because it was getting dusk. getting dark. we didn't know how much fuel was on board. because although i've flown a cessna 172 hundreds of tiles, they're all a little bit different and john didn't know where the switches were for the lights, cockpit lights and things like that. he didn't want him to start looking round the cockpit and lose concentration on flying the airplane. so together with myself and the radar controller, he did a
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fantastic job. we steered him around the circuit so to speak three times, of which weren't really successful. but it was getting darker and darker. on the fourth one i thought, well we better get him down on this one. so i talked him all the way round. positioned him about two miles east of the air field coming onto the well-lit runway. and then eventually we got him to come closer and closer. and then while i was in the air traffic control, i saw this light go past the air traffic control window. i knew by then he was going to make it, it's now or never. i told him to pull everything back he could do, hold the column control back until the aircraft made contact with ground. once you raise your nose, when it's dark, you can see nothing, you're looking into plaque space, so he's done remarkably well, really remarkably well. >> you said that each of these, there's, each is a little different. you had never actually flown the
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model that john was trying to land. how were you able to tell him where everything was, having never really thrown this model? >> i had flown a 172 many hundreds of times. as i say, they tend to put switches and things in different places. i hadn't actually flown that particular plane. i have a 172 of my own. so but the switches and knobs are slightly different and i didn't know where they were. and i didn't want him to have looking around the cockpit and lose concentration on flying the airplane. >> tell me about his temperment. what was he saying to you while you were trying to help him through this? >> he seemed very calm. and collected, i suppose. he had been in an airplane before. but not actually flown one. or landed one. that was the problem. and then obviously got his friend next to him, who was incapacitated and he was set on the left-hand side where all the
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instruments and things are. but we managed to get him on the ground. we had emergency services. it was really a team effort. >> we spoke him down for the last 200 feet. >> how is the pilot doing? >> he's -- he's not doing too bad. the passenger, unfortunately the pilot passed away. >> sorry to hear that. >> we only found that out a couple of days ago. and it was a friend of his, so it was the passenger that flew the airplane, not the pilot. >> we heard he had fallen ill and now we know he passed away, unfortunately. so when this plane hit the ground, tell us about that moment of relief for not only john, but for you? >> well unfortunately as he it had gone past the tower, it went into a black spot where it was all dark and i didn't actually see the landing.
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but it was just like a silhouette, like i said a couple of minutes ago. loik a silhouette going past the tower and i thought i could just judge the shadow of how high he was above the ground and just pull back everything and hold it there, and it did. it made a bit of a heavy landing, but every landing you walk away one is a successful one, isn't it in. >> this one especially. flight instructor roy murray, thank you so much for speaking with us. and although the impromptu landing was successful, of course the pilot as we said, the pilot died later that night. roy, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> coming up, in the good stuff, a random act of generosity that earned this new hampshire wa waitress, a military salute. lak didn't come with a warning.
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6:48 in the east. every week we honor a new cnn hero who is doing great work all around the globe. not for fame or any recognition, but just to help others. we get thousands of nominees from our viewers each year from all over the globe. every fall, ten are chosen to be our top heroes, cnn's anderson cooper introduces us to this year's honorees. >> i'm anderson cooper. all year we've been introducing you to everyday people who are changing the world. we call them cnn heroes. now we announce the top ten cnn heroes for 2013. in random order, the honorees are dale beatty lost his legs in iraq, now mod feed or helped provide homes to more than two
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dozen disabled veterans. dr. laura stachle uses solar power to help health care workers deliver babies safely. danielle gleto a fairy godmother for foster children, making their simple wishes come true. ntaya opened the first primary school for girls in her kenyan village. tawanda jones drill team provides discipline and inspiration to children in one of the nation's poorest cities. chad porgrake is keeping america's rivers clean by removing garbage from waterways across the u.s. stella pyfrom poured her savings no a mobile computer lab that serving low-income children and adults. richard naris lost his son to leukemia, now helping low-income children get to their cancer treatments. dr. george buelle travls into the jungles of africa every weekend bringing free surgery to those in need. and robin edmonds provides fresh produce to underserved
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so she picked up their tab. >> the waitress paid for the meal and left a note thanking them for their service. a local guard office posted it on its website and as of this morning she has more than 6200 likes, i'm sure that's going up soon. >> i would like to challenge everybody to pay it forward. >> love that garden bar at the ruby tuesday. you know how i just had to throw that in. you know how a few beers can loosen the tongue? well now you can give congress a piece of your mind with a simple -- drunk dial. we'll explain. ♪ ♪ ♪ a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial fibrillation -- an irregular heartbeat,
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according to new research, elephants can understand the communicative intent of human pointing. if a human points at something, an elephant can turn and instantly understand what you want. isn't that amazing. the only elephants that don't understand what people want are the republicans in congress. those are the only ones, the rest, all the others seem to get it. >> who didn't see that coming, right? when you said elephants pointing? you knew it was going to get there somewhere. >> if only it were that simple with congressmen. you know how some people who have awe a few too many drinks and they start to tell you how they really feel? >> it's happening a lot today with members of congress, here's cnn's jeannie moos. >> if you're mad at congress, you could hold a sign, maybe one saying congress beware, when we're screwed, we multiply. or, you could try this -- hello? >> hi. this is government shutdown
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making you want to drink? >> it's a free service at the website drunkdial dbl congress.org. >> let me tell you, when i drink i like to tell people what's on my mind. >> you enter your number at the website and a couple of seconds, the recorded drunk dialer calls you back. >> we're going to forward you to a member of the house of representatives. >> your call is forwarded to a randomly chosen member of the house. so you could give them your mind. i'm calling from cnn, have you guys been getting a bunch of weird calls? florida republican's offenses had no comment on drunk dial congress. it was set up they say for fun by a digital tech company founded by a former obama campaign staffer. you're hot going to make any money off this, are you? >> no, we're going to lose money off of it. >> on thursday afternoon, the website apparently needed a drink, for a while it stopped working, overwhelmed, just like
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obama care. if house speaker john boehner was overwhelmed, he wasn't showing it. listen to how he answered a hypothetical question containing an if. >> if's and's and but's, were candy and nuts, every day would be christmas. >> it turns out this is one of the favorite deflect the question rhymes, here he is using it twice. >> if that were the case, every day would be christmas. >> ah, the joys of watching anthony weiner argue the shutdown on fox. >> i'm the host, you're the guest. >> i get to do questions, what am i, a potted plant? >> i must have a job on fox. >> ouch, ooh. >> want me to talk about low standards? you really want to go there? >> i'll go wherever you want. >> look how low florida democrat allen grayson went, fighting an actual public policy polling survey. >> what do you have a higher opinion of, congress, toenail
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fungus. >> congress, 41%, toe nabl fungus, 42%. >> they do something in common. >> it is difficult to treat. >> it makes me want to drink. >> i could have done without the toe nail fungus picture. we've got your must-see moment. watch this. they're off. what appears to be a race to the finish line might in actuality be a little lesson in crawling. take a lock at just an adorable baby and a couple of pals, pair of alaskan malamutes, we're having a hard time who is teaching who to crawl here. >> perhaps just holding a crawling clinic to compare techniques. in any case, pretty entertaining to watch them here, how did they get these dogs to crawl like that? dogs, babies? cute, cute.
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>> thanks for starting your morning with us. the next hour of your "new day" starts right now. completely prevented from brewing this next beer because of the government shutdown. >> that's right. it's not just closed parks and furloughs. the government shutdown is now affecting your beer. not to mention your reality tv. new this morning -- three people have been indicted in the violent clash between bikers and an suv driver. and wait until you hear who one of the police officers really is. "breaking bad" may be over, but "the walking dead" is just beginning. we have a preview that will hopefully comfort anyone still mourning walter white. and you made it to the weekend. good morning to you, i'm ana
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cabrera. >> and i'm victor blackwell. this is "new day saturday." >> there are growing signs this morning, republicans in the senate are fed up with their house colleagues and sources say they're giving the house just a couple of days, max, to make a deal on reopening the government and raising the debt ceiling. >> if that does not happen, senate will move ahead, aggressively with its own plan. spearheaded by a republican and a democrat. >> cnn's athena jones is at the capitol where both the senate and the house will be working again today. what do we know about the senate plan? >> good morning, ana and victor. well the plan that maine senator susan collins presented to president obama when the senate republicans had their turn, meeting the president at the white house yesterday, would do a couple of things it would both raise the debt limit and reopen the government, which is something the president has said he wants to see out of any plan. it would also repeal a medical device tax that helps fund obama care. support for that repeal or delay
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of that tax has seen some bipartisan support in recent times. the other thing this would do is it would give federal agencies more flexibility to manage these forced spending cuts. these deep spending cuts. these departments have been operating under. so that's one of the plans under discussion. we note that the president heard that plan. they called the meeting productive but inconclusive. white house press secretary, jay carney, spoke about where the white house stands on all this a few hours after that meeting. let's listen to that. >> it is our position that there is no acceptable reason to keep the government shut down. all it does is, you know, harm american who is are out there trying to make ends meet. so our position hasn't changed there. and our position on the debt ceiling hasn't changed. is that it ought to be removed by congress as a tool or a cudgel in budget negotiations. >> so there's a restatement of where the white house stands on
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all this. people are pleased that both sides are talking, that the rhetoric has been dialed back. but a final deal hasn't yet been sealed. ana, victor? >> athena, it's interesting. that while the government was open, many of the weeks in congress, four-day work weeks, now that it's shut down, a lot of them are six-day work weeks, they're back today, what do we expect the senate and the house to try to accomplish? >> well, interestingly enough, what they have planned at least right now for today, doesn't really have a lot to do with the latest plan we've heard from the senate on the house side, they're hoping to hold a vote today on the plan that would extend the limit for just six week weeks until november 22nd. that's something the president is cool to. but that could take place today. on the senate side, senate majority leader harry reid is planning a vote that would raise the debt ceiling for a year. that's something we have indications from senate republicans, doesn't have a lot of support. i spoke with one senate republican who said that's just a political stunt, that won't help us move forward.
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members of congress move forward on finding a solution that both chambers can pass and get to the president's desk. so that's what's on tap today. >> all right. athena jones at the capitol, we'll check back in, thank you. she's been standing out there in new york harbor for 12 lonely days without any visitors. and now the statue of liberty and other federal landmarks will be reopening. the state of new york says it is just losing too many tourist dollars because of the shutdown. now it will pay the national park service $61,000 a day to operate liberty island. meantime, arizona has struck a similar deal with the federal government to reopen the grand canyon. it will pay the national park service more than $650,000 to operate the park for at least one week. good to see them open. even just for a short time now. the head of starbucks says the american people have had enough with the stalemate in washington. >> now starbucks is having customers sign a petition to washington, urging lawmakers to
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get the government up and running again. and our nick valencia is at a starbucks here in atlanta. how many people have signed the petition there? >> good morning, victor and ana. already one million signatures for this petition that just started yesterday. and starbucks expects the number to go up significantly throughout the weekend. they've got about 11,000 stores nationwide, they average 20 million customers per weekend if they're able to get every single one of those customers, which they're trying to do to sign the petition, do the math, that's a lot of signatures. already at this store behind me, 120 people have signed this petition. earlier this morning, i spoke to one of those people. she told me what she thinks about this petition that the ceo, howard schultz, is putting together. take a listen. >> what about this gesture by the ceo of starbucks, howard schultz, to want to do this and encourage customers to sort of send the message to washington? what do you think about that? >> i think he's awesome. i think he's -- i think it kind of goes along with the same
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thing where he did with the small businesses, trying to just trying to get everybody involved. trying to get everybody to band together and make a difference. so i think it's great. >> other people that we've spoken to say this is a very good idea. they don't understand how tangible the results will be. the petitions, they don't know ha kind of message they will send to the politicians working on the partial government shutdown in washington. >> nick, the starbucks ceo, schultz, he's no wallflower. he has wade nod the political arena several times. he's talking about the debt ceiling. what does he say about what could really happen if the debt ceiling is not raised, especially in the next few days? >> well he didn't mince words about it he spoke yesterday to our poppy harlow. they sat down for an interview in new york. take a listen. he talks about dire consequences if woe don't end the partial government shutdown. take a listen. >> the consequences are dire.
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our standing in the world, the fracturing of consumer confidence, the psyche of the american people, small and large businesses across the country will be significantly affected. no one will be immune. >> and it's very clear on the petition, they want three things, they want to reopen this government. they want to pay our debts, so we don't go into another financial crisis and they want a bipartisan and comprehensive long-term budget deal by the end of the year. ana, victor? >> having this conversation over coffee is an example of bipartisanship, i suppose. for the second time this week, a top commander in charge of the country's nuclear missiles has been relieved of his command. the u.s. air force says it lost trust in michael carey's leadership. he had been under investigation over reports of misdehafr. a few days ago, the deputy chief
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of command. a potentially deadly tropical cyclone is bearing down on northeast india. we're watching this closely. it is gigantic. >> huge, phailin is more than 1500 miles wide. >> packing maximum sustained winds of 150 miles per hour. equal to a strong category 4 hurricane. people are clearing this area. more than 440,000 people already evacuated. authorities say hurricane-strength winds could affect nearly 8.5 million people. >> phailin is expected to make landfall in five hours, maybe. indian officials are taking a zero-casualty approach. forcing everybody to get out. even if they don't want to get out. >> they've learned from past storms that have turned deadly. let's bring in meteorologist karen mcginnis in the cnn weather center to talk about the storm. >> it is devastating. could be devastating and is
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being compared to the tropical zone that made landfall just about in the same area in 1999 that had over 10 death,000 deat. they're estimating it could go up to ten feet of storm surge. a it is moves onshore, very low-lying area, there's a river basin, a number of river basins across this region. so the water is going to be pushed inland fairly deeply. we'll expect it to reach category 2 or the equivalent of a category 2 hurricane. by sunday, 70-mile-per-hour winds associated with this. it still has legs, moves into the interior sections of the state of odissa, they're saying about 35 million people are in line or in the vicinity of this system. that could wreak some devastating effects. we go into the mid-atlantic, cape hatteras, over six inches of rainfall. a record. baltimore, washington, d.c., not just for the day, but just all
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week rong it's been very dreary, an area of low pressure offshore. that begins to move a little bit. the good news is it starts to pull aweigh. in the meantime we do have flash flood warnings and watches out for coastal sections of new jersey, down towards maryland. you might expect another inch or two. frontal system slips across the midwest. breezy weather conditions and temperatures cooler. chicago, you go from temperatures in the 70s, to readings in the 60s, in nashville, 80s to 60s coming up. and for texas, rainfall is going to be coming down the next couple of days. two to four inches, houston stretching towards del rio, you'll see some isolated heavy amounts, not everybody is going to see that much. back to you. >> karen, thanks. still to come on "new day" incredible video to show you as a fast-moving train slams into a tractor-trailer, sending debris flying everywhere. plus another new york police officer investigated in connection with that violent
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stunning video out of midland county, texas, a freight train colliding with a tractor-trailer stuck at a railroad crossing. sending the truck's flatbed full of pipes just flying. the train pushing the big rig down the tracks for about half a mile. thankfully and amazingly, no injuries, the driver of the semi had left the cab just before the crash. >> that is amazing. well three bikers have now been indicted in connection with the violent clash involving the suv driver in new york. >> the three are all accused of attacking alexian lian in front
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of his wife and child. cnn's margaret conley is live in new york with more. margaret, what's the latest on the investigation? >> victor, seven bikers have now been arrested in the suv driver's assault. part of a high-speed chase with motorcyclists. here in new york that was captured on video. that went viral. alexian lian by the way, the driver of the suv was seen for the first time in public on friday afternoon. you can see him in video shot by cnn affiliate wabc leaving his apartment beading. he was treated at a hospital after being attacked and beaten by bikers two weeks ago. the incident also left one biker seriously injured after his suv ran over him. but now onto the bikers who were arrested. three of them have now been indicted by a manhattan grand jury. they have been individually charged with either striking the suv driver, using their helmet to smash open the suv window or stomping on the driver's head after he was pulled out of his vehicle. their next court appearance is
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going to be their arraignment. scheduled for october 30th when their charges will with be made public. when they can enter their plea, about two and a half weeks away. the police are still looking for at least four other bikers who may have attacked the suv driver. >> 0 there's a mention of this off-duty police officer. at least one of them, maybe more on the scene. what do we know about them? >> victor, one has been arrested. and we now have photos of him. his name is woichek brzeczka. he was involved in infiltrating organizations including the occupy wall street movement. we don't know why it took him three days to report to his superiors that he was there. and cnn has now learned that a third officer could have been on the scene. and this one works for internal affairs, the same department that's investigating this whole case. here's more on that from cnn's legal analyst, paul callan. >> it's hugely significant.
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i.a.d. officers are supposed to be the guys who really enforce the law. they enforce the law even against fellow police officers. the letter of the law. and to think that an i.a.d. officer might in fact be involved in this incident, i think the public will be very upset and disturbed about this. >> now the officer's lawyer told our susan candiotti that his client has worked with internal affairs for five years and he didn't see any of the assault take place. he said the officer didn't do anything wrong. now of course, ana, victor, all of this continues to be investigated. >> surprising the potential that there are three officers on this scene. when we heard of the first one, it was surprising. margaret conley in new york for us, thank you. >> it seems like people just keep coming out of the woodwork. still to come, the debt ceiling and obama care aren't the only things people are fighting about in washington. a new fight has everything to do with football and one team's name. but will anything really change?
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going to the table means it's money time. 21 minutes after the hour now, and on friday, the dow surged and investors pushed the index higher on hopes of a debt deal out of washington. by the end of the week, the dow gained back all of its losses since the shutdown began. >> the upward trend began on wednesday when the president announced he would nominate janet yellin to replace ben bernanke as fed chair. computer sales are taking a bite out of apple. sales of the mac computer fell last quarter. apple was the only one of the five major pc makers that saw a drop in shipment. some analysts say a lack of updates to the mac book air may to be blame. cadillac will release a luxury plug-in car early next year. the cadillac elr, is about $69,000 after the tax credits. cadillac says the high price tag
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comes from the car's greater flexibility. now not yoga flexibility. but the elr can flip between electric and gas. which allows it to drive for greater distances than a traditional electric car. >> you're a car guy, aren't you? >> i like that, that's just pretty. that's pretty. time for the biz block, we're going to begin with facebook. a new chapter in this long-running privacy back and forth. the site is now making it harder for its more than one billion users to hide online. a lot of us like to hide online. a privacy feature that allows you to hide your profile from other users is now history. facebook is now probably not making a lot of friends with the new change. but it is defending the move by calling the privacy tool outdated and confusing. >> if you have a facebook account, isn't that the whole point, you want to interact with more and more people? >> some folks. i don't understand how it was really confusing.
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was it? >> i think facebook is confusing, period. i'm not somebody who embraces technology. >> i'll give it to you. it's hard to cope up with the changes. normally you would get arrested if you left a restaurant without waiting for a check, right? not any more. now you're covered. a new app for the iphone is called cover. it let's you pay the check, you can even add in the tip without ever having to wait for the bill to be dropped off at your table. here's how it works. you register your credit card with this app. the app works with restaurants, but mostly those restaurants are in new york right now. the idea is to make more convenient for you, since you don't have to wait for the check and makes it easier on the restaurants, who don't have to pay the processing fee of running your credit card. it should be a win-win i suppose. >> it sounds like a good idea, hopefully they expand it. i would try it. i guess you got to keep your phone, though. >> but everybody has their phone. washington's famous monuments are closed. but what on earth does the government shutdown have to do
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bottom of the hour now, welcome back, everyone, i'm ana cabrera. >> and i'm victor blackwell. here's five things you need to know for your new day. >> evacuations under way in india. as the potentially catastrophic tropical cyclone turns towards shore. more than 440,000 people have fled so far. phailin is more than 1500 miles wide, just a huge storm, roughly the distance from maine to miami. this storm is strong as a category 4 hurricane. with winds as strong as 150 miles per hour. they're already looking to coastal areas, landfall is expected around noon eastern. number two, president obama and michelle obama welcomed malala yousafzai to the white house. their daughter, malia, was there, too, you see her in the picture. the pakistani teen survived
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being shot by the taliban. the girls have as much right to be in a classroom as boys. president obama said malala is helping the dreams of girls around the world come true by speaking out so kramgously. number three this morning -- minnesota vikings star, adrian peterson is mourning the death of his 2-year-old son, an apparent victim of child abuse. the boyfriend of the infant's mother has been arrested. charged with sag serrated assault and battery of an infant. if convicted, he faces up to 40 years in prison. peterson says despite the tragedy, he plans to suit up and he'll be ready to play football tomorrow. authorities in new mexico are looking for this man -- his name is scott chandler, and he's the director of a ranch for troubled kids. he's missing, along with nine teenagers who police say were abducted from the ranch. chandler's lawyer says all the teenagers are safe. but an amber alert remains in effect. number five, a zoo keeper was killed by an elephant at
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missouri's dickerson park zoo. it's not yet clear what caused the 41-year-old elephant to charge and then crush john bradford, a 30-year veteran of the zoo. according to reports, the animal will not be euthanized. stocks are rallying and wall street is hopeful. that a debt deal may be within reach. >> and investors pushed the dow higher friday, gaining back all of the losses. since the shutdown. and even adding to it. >> finally, a little good news this week. cnn's dane asher joins us with everything you need to know about u.p.s., the ups and downs of the market. are markets behaving like all is right with the world and there's nothing to worry about in. >> it seems that way. if only that were true. the week ended as a net positive. but it certainly was a tumultuous week on wall street. it's a lesson to investors that sometimes it is better to sit and wait it out as opposed to trying to second-guess the market. especially he it comes to something as thorny as the debt
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ceiling. friday we gained back everything we had lost since the shutdown. the dow was up by 1%, the s&p 500 was up by .7%. to give you the week in review. we started the week with losses. not major losses per se, but significant losses. i actually interviewed several money managers who were telling me that their clients were calling them, panicking, threatening to pull money out of the market. there was a real fear in the air, by wednesday, the tide has changed, we had janet yellen nominated to head the fed. we saw that there could be a compromise. that set the dow, it sent the dow up by 323 points. the biggest one-day gain by the way since december 2011. by friday, i think the markets had sobered up a little bit. we saw a deal, we were excited about it. but then it was clear, it's not a done deal just yet. when you talk to everyone on wall street. i think that the general consensus is there's no way the government is going to et will us default on our debt. we've lived through 2008, we've
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seen the nightmare played out and we've made progress since then and i think that very few politicians are going to want to jeopardize that. ana and victor? >> we've got less than a week until we hit the october 17th deadline. are we expecting, zane, that things will taper off as we get closer? or is it going to hold until we get to that day? >> we have five days left until october 17th. and i think that you know, if you watch the markets until that day, we are going to see a little bit more upheaval if there is no concrete deal before thursday. what i think is interesting, though, is when you talk about the shutdown and the debt ceiling, the shutdown is actually having, it's a nonevent to the markets, but it is actually having an impact on the economy. every week the shutdown lasts, that reduces fourth quarter gdp by at least .1%. on thursday, we got jobless claims that rose by 66,000, partly because of all the government contract workers
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looking for work. and also consumer confidence, take a look as well. that dipped to the lowest level since 2008. so what's interesting is that the shutdown is a nonevent for the markets. but it is certainly having an impact on the economy. we are going to be watching closely. because the market is more concerned about the debt ceiling and we are going to be watching closely to see ha happens next week. ana and victor. >> any advice for investors right now? people who are watching their money in the market and wondering, pull my money out because we don't know what's going to happen? what do you think? >> i think it's clear we actually don't know haas going to happen. there's so much uncertainty right now. and i think this week should be a lesson to everyone. sometimes, sometimes a little money managers say it's better to wait it out. we had significant losses on monday and tuesday and by friday, as victor mentioned in the intro, we had gained almost everything back. by thursday we saw the biggest one-day gain since december 2011. so sometimes it is towelly better to sit on the sidelines and not try to time the market.
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guys? >> we've got the clock on the screen there, five days, zane asher in new york. thank you. well the partial government shutdown has hit several odd targets, things you probably would never think about. >> would you believe everything from beer to reality television. yeah, cnn's erin mcmike takes a look. >> i'm not a trouble-maker -- >> but john had had enough. >> you talk to your children about doing the right thing and having courage. and about being devoted to a cause. and that president is my favorite president. i love abraham lincoln. and i wanted to go up there. >> so he did. crossing this fence and leading hundreds after him. >> we just walked past and everybody followed. >> the lincoln memorial. opened by john mcclean for just a few minutes, but quickly closed again by park police, along with 400 parks across the country. closures estimated to cost neighboring communities $30
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million in lost revenue every day. >> we went from having a full restaurant to empty restaurant. it's very quiet here. >> those towns just part of the damage done by a shutdown about to enter its third week. among the other targets? the u.s. chemical safety board, all but three of their career employees furloughed, putting a halt to 15 investigations, including the probe into this deadly fertilizer plant explosion in west texas last april. >> also affected? craft beer and wine makers across the country seeking permits for new products. >> we can't put our formula in for ate profl or even get a label to register it with the state to sell it to our distributor. we're completely prevented from brewing the next beer because of the government shutdown. even reality tv. >> we're businessically locked down. >> the cast of "deadliest cash" and other alaska crab fishers
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can't open their season as planned on tuesday, because the government hasn't set crab quotas. >> if the government doesn't get their act together by the middle of next week, we're going to seriously impact our price at the dock. that's going to spiral down to coastal communities, little guys, processors. it's not just 80 fishing boats up in the bering sea. >> it's not just fishermen and brewers hoping for a resolution to the shutdown. this week, federal workers will get their first light paycheck without the money for the days they were furloughed since the shutdown began. ana and victor? >> well, cnn's erin mcpike in washington, everybody feeling it. >> some things you never consider and the reality television angle. >> and beer? >> yeah, don't mess with beer. next on new day, the zombie apocalypse, last other's top-rate showed returns from the dead tomorrow. will it live up to the hype. plus, kanye west versus jimmy kimmel. remember the all-caps rant on
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>> and joining us now for more, jimmy alexander, the co-host of star 94's, mornings with cindy and jimmy. last season this show unbelievably to me was the number one scripted show on television. a first for cable. and of course, a zombie apocalypse who would have thought, right? can they keep up the crazy ratings? >> i think so, it's the perfect family show. i want to let you know, they film here in atlanta. and if you see this morning what you think are zombies, it's not zombies, just people still leaving the aquarium from last night's event. but that's a different thing. it's a great show, compelling characters and you put yourself, what would i do if i was in that situation. first what you would do is make sure your son carl doesn't shoot your wife. >> that was kind of sad. >> that kid's a little creepy. >> here's the thing, i tried to watch this show, but the first
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episode when the zombies at the end are eating the horse, i couldn't watch it after that. that was just it for me. they've got 1, i can look at your face and i know i can't let you say what you want to say. >> in france, that's a delicacy. >> i knew i had to keep going. 16 episodes for this season. eight first, you know starting now and then eight later next year. i don't like when that happens. >> i say from the bottom of my heart, i hate that. give us, give us -- >> give us all the episodes at once. stop messing around, amc, you did it with "breaking bad" and now this? give us all the shows. >> we've got to talk about kanye and kimmel. >> they had kind of this ongoing dispute. finally made nice with each other. what's the latest in that feud? >> my partner, cindy, puts it like this. you have friends that you listen to and people that you pay. the people you pay is going to say you're a genius, everything
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you do is fantastic. your friends tell you, hey, calm down you're a jack ass. he needs more friends. >> i think we have sounds from this interview. do we have the kanye sound? listen. >> the skit which i didn't even watch all the way through, because i didn't want to be infuriated. i said i know you. so a combination of me knowing you, but also me not knowing the person who put you know, a bad headline on the cover of "in touch" and me not knowing this person, i was like, this is the one person i know so i can go and let out everything that i feel about every single bogus weekly cover. every single bogus skit. every single rumor in barber shop. everything that people is okay to treat celebrities like zoo animals. >> okay. what do you think about that explanation? >> well it seems like he's making excuses. when you set yourself up. he's a talented guy, beautiful child, the mother of his child is beautiful. but you don't have to tell
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everybody how smart you are and you're a genius and you're like jesus. >> he's so humble. >> it's getting to the point two people who brag about themselves that much. one was muhammed ali. and the other was the nature boy, rick flair. so if he's not doing something on wrestle mania. and it seems like it's a joke. could he really have that little sense of humor about himself? >> and extra points for the rick flair reference. >> kanye doesn't need any more air time. let's talk about the duggars, reality tv stars, parents of 19 children. and now apparently -- they want to have a 20th child. >> that's a couple that needs a hobby. >> they have a hobby. >> and apparently she's good at it and he's not bad. they're very religious and god
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bless them. they don't watch any shows unless it's like a documentary and i say that's -- >> they have plenty of entertainment going on in their house. >> you would think. >> that many kids. >> i think they need to have more, a better hobby than that. because they use all j names, they've already used the name "jinger" spelled with a "j" if you get to that, you've run out of a list. still to come, have you heard about the battle brewing in d.c.? >> no? not the debt ceiling? not the government shutdown? we're talking about the battle to change the name of nfl's washington redskins. we'll explain, just ahead. create moments of value. build character through quality. and earn the right to be called a classic. the lands' end no iron dress shirt. starting at 49 dollars.
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>> a native american group says the name is racist and needs to just goes on and on, but the real owner, dan schneider, he's not going to budge. he says the name is here to stay. so what's next in this controversial and high-stakes battle? cnn's brian todd reports. >> a standoff that seems like the government shutdown. neither side budging. the president firing a news-making salvo. but this washington drama over the nickname of the city's nfl franchise. native american groups feel they've got new momentum in their efforts to get rid of the name, redskins. >> it's about the way our children are affected by the imagery of washington's name and mascot. >> the oneida indian nation are making a new push after president obama's remark that if he were the owner of a team and its name offended a sizeable group of people, quote, i would think about changing it. redskins are firing back through their attorney, lanny davis.
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>> there should not be a name change, which is not about race. it's not about disrespect. it's about loving the redskins. >> davis cited a poll this year showing four out of five americans don't think the redskins' name should be changed. and the only poll which asked native americans specifically about it. taken almost a decade ago. that survey showed nine out of ten native americans were not bothered by the name. >> what do you make of the polling that shows that many native americans aren't offended and many others don't want the name change? >> it's a dictionary defined racial epithet. you shouldn't be using that to sell a national sports team to america or the rest of the world. >> nfl commissioner roger goodell stepped lightly into the controversy. >> if we are offending one person, we need to be listening. >> redskins' owner, dan schneider, one of 32 owners who goodell works for, said recently he'll never change the name. but the owe needa indian nation will get the ears soon. both sides will meet about the name next month. brian todd, cnn, washington.
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speaking of washington, quite a sight this week. pay man outside the lincoln memorial tackling the mother of all mowing jobs, all by himself. with his own lawn mower. >> his name is chris cox from south carolina. he was shocked to see our national monument fall into disrepair, of course, because of the shutdown. so he didn't shut down. he got up and went to washington with his lawn tools, empty trash cans, patrolling on his bike at night and mowing. so why is he doing all of this? >> it's up to us at the end of the day, the citizens are the stewards of the memorials. there's no reason that we can't have our open-air memorial open. as far as i'm concerned, this memorial is open. we have the tourists, we have security. we have our veterans. and if i have anything to say about it, we have maintenance and security. and i would like to encourage all americans to come forth and to find a memorial to bring a
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trash bag and a rake. >> he has a flag of some sort too. i don't know what that's about. >> me neither. >> unfortunately what chris is doing, while laudable, is technically illegal and the park service eventually asked him to stop. in fact, according to chris, one officer even told him the quickest way to get the regular guys back on the job is to not clean the monuments up, so people see it and then demand that something change. >> great attitude. but i get what that person was telling them. that if you let it get into this condition, someone will happily at some point come and do something. we just wonder how long the government shutdown is going to go. >> and nobody can predict that. >> nobody can. a pizza delivery man -- the dream of a pizza delivery man. how a magician can turn a few measly bucks into a jackpot for a guy who brings you your pie, all in the name of a decent tip. we've got that coming up. ♪ [ crashing ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight,
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♪ oh it's got to be a good life ♪ >> time now for the good stuff. in today's edition, when it comes to helping people, all it takes is a little bit of magic. >> magician and youtube fixture, stuart edge, was surprised to learn how little pizza delivery drivers make, well below minimum wage, especially once you figure in they use their own car and if they don't get decent tips, can be a tough situation for them. so stuart came up with a new trick. you can see, he's got five singles, turns them into five 20s. needless to say, the drivers thought this was pretty magical.
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>> you made it work. so here you go. 20, 40, 100 bucks. >> that's awesome. >> yeah. it is pretty awesome. >> i'm tearing up. >> no, don't. i'm sure you can use it. >> yeah, definitely. >> wait. are you serious? >> yeah. >> that's not going to change back to 1s when i he drive home? >> maybe it will change to 100s. >> i feel like i owe you something now, definitely. >> no, just -- you gave me the pizza. >> yeah. you gave me the pizza, we're good. that's a good question, though. are we sure these aren't going to switch back once i get in the car? >> is this for real? >> all those tips come out of stuart's own pocket. october is national pizza month. so remember, especially tonight when you're buying some for your friends while watching the game, be sure to get something for your delivery drivers, as well. >> yeah, give them a nice tip. >> yeah. all right. must-see moment now. and if you're afraid of a robot takeover, probably two or three
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people are, i don't know, you might want to sit down for this one. >> well, there are crazier things. meet wildcat. it's a military machine designed by a company called boston dynamics. it can run at speeds of up to 16 miles per hour, which means if this thing was chasing you, yeah, that would probably catch you. >> look at this. if that's not enough of a nightmare, check out this. it's the atlas made by the same company. it's a humanoid robot that can use tools, walk over the mountainous territory. rebots are to assist the military. >> it reminds me of "star wars." >> yeah, i was just thinking about that "i robot" movie. remember that? will smith? these are amazing, keeping their balance. >> some smart people. >> thanks for starting your morning with us. >> the next hour of your new day
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starts right now. new this morning, three people have been indicted in that violent clash between bikers and an suv driver. and wait until you hear who one police officer really is. >> this weekend, starbucks is serving up more than coffee. they have a petition to reopen the government, and send a message to washington. they only can shoot a body. they cannot shoot my dreams. >> she refused to die. and in doing so, became a hero. christiane amanpour sat down with the teenager, the student, the inspiration. malala yousafzai. >> lots to talk about this saturday. thanks for being here. >> this is "new day saturday"
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and we starting in washington. we are an hour away from a meeting of house republicans. >> speaker john boehner meeting with members of his party. trying to work out a deal that can please his party and make it past the president. >> but one plan that will not work, pushing the debt debate back instead of solving it. >> and brianna keilar is at the white house. brianna, the president seems pretty adamant about not delaying this fight. could that complicate negotiations? >> reporter: oh, sorry, anna. i didn't hear you. can you repeat the question? >> the president has obviously said he doesn't want to push back getting the government up and running. but there's the debt ceiling that's always becoming front and center. are the negotiations getting a little more complicated because of the two issues, and trying to bring them together? >> reporter: you know, i think they are getting a little complicated, or maybe they're sort of simple and they're just sort of staying where they were. it's really unclear at this point. but president obama talked to
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the speaker yesterday on the phone. he spoke with business leaders. he talked to governors on the phone. he had senate republicans over here. and the mood had really shifted from thursday into friday, as you'll recall, after he met with house republicans. it seemed like, you know, he talked over the last couple days about being open to a short-term debt ceiling increase of six weeks. that they really needed to kind of sort out some of the details and how to reopen the government. but now it saturday of feels like they're not making any progress. they're very careful to make it seem like they are certainly still talking. but it's unclear if they're talking in a real substantive way. case in point, yesterday we saw jay carney delay the white house briefing past when the markets closed. on thursday, amid that news that at least both sides were talking, we saw 323-point jump in the dow, a sign of encouragement, the markets were encouraged, they obviously responded very emotionally to this kind of thing. and it appeared, although the white house didn't say it, that they were afraid as jay carney
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came out and he was saying that they want to push kind of beyond this six-week extension, they don't love the idea of having this debt ceiling battle right before thanksgiving and holiday retail shopping time, that there was some concern that the markets would pick up this sort of -- i don't know if it's a major slow down, or we become calm here, but certainly that's definitely the feeling here, anna and victor. >> patting themselves on the back yesterday for talking to one another. brianna, i want to ask you about the president saying over and over, not going negotiate, i'm not going to negotiate. but is there any room here, now that they're having conversations, any room to negotiate or give on anything in obama care? >> reporter: you know, on obama care, no. i mean, think of it like this. obama care is the president's sort of crowning jewel legislatively. a hard-fought battle in congress. it could have been gutted by the supreme court but instead he had
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a victory. he doesn't want to touch obama care. he said he's open to improvements to obama care, but really, when you talk to republicans, the only improvement they really see is killing the entire thing. so that's not something that he is going to agree with. and it's interesting, victor, you picked up on that idea of negotiating. they say they're talking. they're not saying they're negotiating. and that's because the white house has been very clear, they didn't want to negotiate on the debt ceiling. so it's sort of -- they're trying to figure out a way, i think, to scoot past each other where republicans feel like at least they have some sort of fig leaf, some sort of modicum of a condition or a concession they get here. but the white house wants to make it clear that they didn't negotiate. so you can see how difficult it is in a way for them to kind of find the middle ground here, even though they are making sort of positive noises about talking. >> a lot of frustration, though, until people are done talking, to talk the talk and walk the walk. brianna keillar at the white house, thanks for that. one hour from now, house
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republicans getting ready to plot their next move. >> their plan is to raise the debt ceiling for just a few weeks. it seems to be losing ground to a senate proposal. >> cnn's athena jones is at the capitol this morning. athena, tell us what you know about this gop meeting. >> reporter: good morning, anna and victor. the plan, as you mentioned, is for speaker boehner to talk about a way forward. this plan of theirs would simply lift the debt limit until november 22 n, doesn't have a lot of support from the white house. the president is cool to the idea of just touching the debt limit, just raising it for a short time, and also not also reopening the government. so there had been some talk about a vote on this gop plan as early as today. but it's looking pretty clear that even if that bill were to pass the house, it doesn't look like it has much of a future. at the same time, on the senate side, senate majority leader harry reid is planning a vote today on a clean -- so-called clean extension of the debt limit for a year. that's with no strings attached. and that's not looking like it has a lot of support.
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my colleague, dana bash, spoke with folks on both sides of the aisle in the senate and it looked like that would fail. i spoke to a republican senator who says holding this vote, even, is a political stunt that's going to get in the way of both sides coming together on a deal that could pass both the house and the senate and make it to the president's desk. >> it's getting in the way of that? holding this vote? is a stunt getting in the way as if there was a clear path before that, is the question. athena jones at the capitol, thank you. orange county, california. a man is facing a terrorism charge this morning. a federal grand jury indicted sin vin gowin on one count of attempting to provide material support to al qaeda. >> the fbi says he was arrested while boarding a bus to mexico. the indictment did not spell out any specifics of his alleged criminal activity. the other big story we're following, a potentially deadly tropical cyclone is bearing down
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on northeastern india. this is a big mama. >> yeah, its pilene, more than 1,500 miles wide, roughly the distance from maine to miami. we have been following this as it approaches the shore here. so many millions of people in the way. they're now taking a zero casualty approach, which means even if you don't want to leave, you've got to get out of the way. they're taking shuttle buses, right? >> yeah, taking shuttle buses through the neighborhoods to kind of clear out the path of this storm following very deadly storm many, many years ago. >> yeah. we were going to get to meteorologist karen maginnis in just a moment. but i want to go to alonzo cook there at the coast. what are the conditions like there? >> well, the conditions, pretty awful, victor. we've just spent the last four hours driving across -- driving right next to the bay here, in
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the coastal resort town, and we went right up to the beach area where we saw already the storm surge lashing the coast. that town, normally a buzzing resort town with tourists, is basically empty. a few locals are still there. those who happen to live in concrete structures, but essentially what we have seen is darkening skies and higher and higher rains as people wait for the cyclone to hit. victor? >> lonzo, we know there are some 440,000 people that are already evacuated. those numbers still growing as the cyclone moves closer. how else are people preparing for what could be a very dangerous condition? >> well, at the resort town
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where we were just, people were talking about the provision for their safety. some had gone to official cyclone centers. and some others, about 3 to 500 people from that town, had decided to go to the local high school, which is on high ground. they felt that would give them the sort of security they needed with the strong concrete basement and first floor to protect them. now, what they are worried about is not the water. they think that on the high land, they are -- they're fairly safe. but it's the wind that really keeps them worried. >> all right, lonzo cook, our new dehli bureau chief on the northeastern coast of india. thank you for that. now let's go to karen maginnis. because karen, i want to know from you. it surprised me there are so many people who are still there, even with concrete structures, having worked in florida and you live there for a while, a category 4, which is this is much like, is still a strong storm. how bad could this be?
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>> it could be devastating. and the comparison, as i mentioned earlier, they haven't seen anything like this for the past 14 years. but this is peak tropical cyclone season. this is within hours of making landfall, and, yes, still thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people lining the coast, which is very low-lying. and they are very vulnerable. but you can imagine that the agriculture, the cattle, the livestock they have there, they want to protect all of that. because they are quite vulnerable. this is within hours of making landfall. we go back to 1999, that had over 10,000 people that were killed with that tropical cyclone. this one isn't as strong. i say that with a lot of caution, because that had 155-mile-an-hour winds associated with this. this is at 150. rainfall could add up to about a foot. and we will see that wind field carry on into the next 24 and 48 hours. it will gradual weaken. so that will be the good news.
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but it looks like we're going to have to estimate the damage from this for days. rainfall across mid atlantic, i want to show you one of the casualties from the rainfall. this, a sinkhole. this in pennsylvania, one of seven states that are very prone to sinkholes. take a look at that. no one injured, but they had to evacuate about a block's worth of people who were living in that vicinity. back to you, ana, victor. >> wet weather there. thank you, karen maginnis in the cnn severe weather center. we appreciate it. still to come on "new day" another new york police officer now investigated in connection to that violent clash involving bikers and an suv driver. wait until you hear what job he has at this department. yeah, and the american people have a message for congress. get your act together. and they're sending it courtesy of starbucks. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] eeny, meeny, miny, go.
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we're live in new york with more on this. margaret, what's the latest on the investigation? >> reporter: victor, seven bikers have now been arrested in the suv driver's assault with motorcyclists in new york captured on video and went virtual. alex liene was seen for the first time in public on friday afternoon. you can see him here shot by wabc leaving his apartment building. he was treated at a hospital after he was attacked and beaten by bikers two weeks ago. the incident also left one biker seriously injured after his suv ran over him. now on to the bikers arrested. three of the bikers have been indicted by a manhattan grand jury. they have been individually accused of either striking the suv driver, using their helmet to smash on the window or drag him out of his vehicle. their next court appearance will be their arraignment scheduled for october oh 30th
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two-and-a-half weeks away. the police are still looking for at least four other bikers who may have attacked the suv driver. >> margaret, we understand there's another officer who may be involved in all of this. what can you tell us about this now third officer that's coming to light in this case? >> reporter: ana, one has been arrested, one police officer. and we have photos of him. let's start with him. he's the one that's blurred out right here. his name is wojciech braszczok, involved in the occupy wall street movement the. we don't know why it took three days to support to his superiors he was here. also, cnn has now learned that a third officer could have been on the scene, and this one worked for internal affairs. that's the same department that's investigating this very case. here's more from cnn's legal analyst, paul callan.
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>> it's hugely significant. iad officers are supposed to be the guys who really enforce the law. they enforce the law, even against fellow police officers. the letter of the law. and to think that an iad officer might, in fact, be involved in this incident, i think the public will be very upset and disturbed about this. >> reporter: now, the officer's lawyer told our susan candiotti, he didn't see any part of the assault take place and says the officer didn't do anything wrong. but we do know it still took him a few days to come forward with what he saw. all of this continues to be investigated. >> yeah, there's a new development in this. it seems like every day. margaret conley, thanks for staying on top of it for us. starbucks wants you to send a message to washington when you get your coffee today. in fact, it's asking you to sign on to the come together petition. and a lot of folks already have. find out just how many, next. ♪
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21 minutes after the top of the hour. all across the country, a lot of people have a message for washington. get the government back up and running now. >> yeah, and starbucks is helping deliver that message. let's get more now from cnn's nick valencia at a starbucks coffee house here in atlanta. nick, tell us, what is this plan? what's this program from starbucks? >> reporter: good morning, ana and victor. this is their part of the conversation. a lot of people are sending
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messages to washington, and starbucks is asking every one of their customers that walks into one of their more than 11,000 locations around the united states this weekend to sign this petition. they're asking the politicians in washington to end this bipartisan gridlock. already here at this starbucks behind me, more than 120 people have signed this petition. starbucks says more than 1 million people have signed it, since friday. and earlier, victor and ana, i spoke to some of those people in support and have already signed this petition. >> i think it's a great idea, because starbucks is everywhere. and those people in washington, our representatives and our congressmen, they need to know that we need a responsible government. probably a symbolic message to washington. but i think it might get through. >> reporter: and, of course, you know, some people just think that it's symbolic message and won't lead to any tangible
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results. earlier i talked to a couple people who said they aren't going to sign it. they just don't think it will make a difference. ana, victor? >> people already giving up. that's not a good sign. nick valencia, thank you for that. congress knows that a lot of people out there really don't like them. and that sentiment led one politician to say, what? >> florida republican allen grayson took to the house floor to note some despicable things that are more popular than congress. listen to this. >> what do you have a higher opinion of? congress or witches? congress, 32%. witches, 46%. what do you have a higher opinion of, congress or hem rides? congress, 31%, hemorrhoids, 53%. what do you have a higher opinion of, congress or dog poop? [ banging gavel ] dog poop, 47%. >> when you lose to hemorrhoids
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and dog poop, times are tough. >> you have really failed. >> as you heard, that was enough for the man with the gavel to shut grayson down. another congressman used a house hearing to mock republicans over the irs scandal. you might remember we found out back in may, the irs had targeted conservative groups. >> have you been consorting with the devil? >> not to my knowledge, sir. >> are reports that you can fly accurate? >> greatly exaggerated, sir. >> have you been involved in any way in trying to pervert our youth? in salem or anywhere else? >> i certainly hope not, sir. >> clearly hear the comparison of a witch hunt there and witches and hemorrhoids and toe nail fungus. >> oh, my. well, that's a wrap on another edition of politicians say what? a lot of government offices are closed for the shutdown.
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great to have you with us on this saturday. i'm anna cabrera. >> i'm victor blackwell. five things you need to know for your day. >> number one, republican lawmakers in the house gather in 30 minutes to discuss a way forward. their proposal to raise the debt ceiling for just a few weeks seems to have been overtaken by a new senate plan. that proposal would increase the government's borrowing authority until at least january, and reopen the government. also on this shutdown, we've been talking about different things happening inside. we do want to make a quick correction. we talked about alan grayson. he is a democrat from florida. important to note that. >> president and michelle obama welcomed malala yousafzai to the white house. the pakistani teen survived being shot by the taliban for saying that girls have as much right to be in the classroom as boys. now, president obama says that malala is helping the dream of girls around the world come true by speaking out so courageously.
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malala sat down with cnn's christiane amanpour, and we'll give you a sneak peek of that amazing interview, just ahead. >> such an inspirational young girl. number three, three bikers have now been indicted in the violate crash of the should have driver in new york. craig wright, reginald chance and robert sims are accused of attacking alexi lien and his wife. there is one new york police officer riding with that group. number four, staying in new york city, parents there are desperately searching for their son, who has autism. 14-year-old avanta oquendo has been missing about a week. his parents say he cannot take care of himself and someone needs to find him. a $70,000 reward is being offered for his safe return. >> number five, evacuations under way in india as a
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potentially catastrophic tropical cyclone turns toward shore. nearly half a million people have fled. this is cyclone phailin. about 1,500 miles wide, huge, roughly the distance from maine to miami. this storm is as strong as a category 4 hurricane with winds as strong as 150 miles per hour. they're already whipping the coastal areas. landfall is expected in about three-and-a-half hours. plenty of government offices have had a closed sign hanging on that door for 12 days now. but not the front door of one congressman's office. >> representative robert petten engineer, a north carolina republican, he's keeping his offices in washington, and charlotte open during the shutdown. >> congressman pittenger, thanks for talking with us this morning. good to have you here. >> good morning, ana and victor. >> why did you decide to keep your offices up and running?
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>> part of my job is public policy, to deal with the great issues of this country, but the other part is meeting the needs of my constituents. we have a very dedicated staff. they love people. they love to serve. and we just really felt that with the inception of the new health care plan, the rollout, that a lot of people have concerns. as well, we recognize that there are other needs out there too. we had a rancher who was going to lose his ranch, because he couldn't get something processed through the usda. we've had people with visa issues stuck in countries. we've helped over 100 people just in the last week or so. so we just felt it was important. to be there to meet those needs. >> well, we know you're still getting paid through all of this. you mentioned your staff members. are they getting paid right now? >> no, i'm not getting paid. number one, i donated my salary a long time ago. but i signed a bill that said that we shouldn't receive pay. i don't accept pay during this time. i don't accept the pay at any
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time. but no, the staff don't get paid. they're out there. hopefully some time they will get paid. but they're doing their work in good faith. >> so you are asking them to work for free right now. >> well, they're there. and they're committed. they are very dedicated people. some are deacons in their church. they love people. they want to be there. they don't want to just abandon their job. >> well, i'm sure that hundreds of thousands of people who have been sent home for the furlough, they love people and love serving people, as well. let me ask you about something you said in the "charlotte observer." you said this debate now has gone beyond obama care and you're looking forward at the argument over the debt ceiling. and you want to talk about spending and cutting back on the budget. my question is, are you willing to blow by the october 17th deadline, unless you get some commitment from the white house on cutting spending? >> i think spending is the biggest crisis we have. no matter what thoughtful person you talk to. you to talk to peter orszag, the
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budget writer for president obama or erskine bowles, who was the same for mr. clinton or paul ryan. unless we address spending in country, we're headed for a financial collapse no different from greece. so i think we have to get ahold of that. i know this crisis is coming up. i heard today that mr. obama does not want to extend beyond six weeks. i'm really not as concerned about the timetable as i am concerned about constructively what's being done to address the excessive spending. if you're taking $2.5 trillion and spending $3.5 trillion, you've got a problem. and this country has a problem. the reason why we have to increase the debt ceiling is because we have out of control spending. that's the issue right now. and we have to do that. >> i get that. but the question still stands, unless you get a commitment from the white house on cutting spending, are you willing to allow the country to go by the october 17th deadline without raising the debt ceiling? >> i think that would be really
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in poor judgment. that's uncharted waters. i don't -- i would hate to see that happen. moody's has come out and said yes, that's achievable. you could do that. you could make your interest payments. you could pay social security. you could prioritize your funding. i would rather not do that. i would rather see responsible, competent, capable people in that room addressing the real fiscal crisis that we have in this country. and unfortunately, in the last five years, mr. obama hasn't chosen to do that. he never mentioned it in his inauguration, not in the state of the union when he came and met with house republicans. he never brought it up. frankly, he never -- he said the deficits weren't a big problem to him. that's really not accurate. we have to be serious about this. >> mr. pittenger, i want to ask you about a new poll, a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll this week asked if you could vote to defeat and replace every member of congress, would you. and a whopping 60% said yes. that's the highest ever recorded in that poll. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, i understand the
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frustrations of the american people. and frankly, that poll is really pretty typical through the years. most people really don't have much appreciation for congress in itself. hopefully they like their congressman. but, yes, we have to be accountable. we have to do our job. we haven't done our job. and we're trying to put out the reasonable offers to try to address this shutdown, to -- more importantly, to address the fiscal crisis in this country. that's the big issue out there. that's the elephant in the room. we can't get our focus off of that. >> and you mentioned, doing your job. i'm sorry. i didn't mean to interrupt you. let's talk more about doing your job. and what are you doing, actively right now, to get the government back up and running? right now? >> well, that's very good. we've made four proposals to the senate. they've been laid on the table. the last one was, hey, we shouldn't receive a subsidy.
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members of congress, white house people, why should we get a privileged subsidy that ordinary americans don't get. as well, we said this was the only two requirements in this last effort. why should 1,100 corporations receive a delay and yet ordinary americans can't. ordinary americans have to pay a penalty if they're not there and don't sign up. 1,100 corporations don't have to do that. those are the only two qualifications we had to keep from shutting down the government. apparently that wasn't acceptable. i think that's indefensible. but nonetheless, that's where we are. we are willing to do anything. that's why we went to the white house and said, mr. president, we're here. we want to be responsible. we're here to go the extra mile, to go halfway. what can we do to bridge this gap and come together and unite this country. >> all right, congressman robert pittenger, republican from north carolina, thank you for joining us. coming up at 9:00 -- >> thank you. >> certainly. we will be talking live with former speaker newt gingrich, about what he would do in
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relation to the shutdown if he were house speaker today. see was 16 when she was shot by the taliban for speaking up about women's rights. but she has not backed down from her message. cnn's christiane amanpour has her powerful interview, next. no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself.
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topping their agenda, a security agreement between the u.s. and afghanistan. it would allow u.s. troops to remain in the country of the nato-led mission wraps up next year. 16-year-old malala yousafzai, the brave pakistani advocate for girls' education. she was shot by the taliban a year ago for promoting women's rights. and nearly killed. but she never backed down from her message. >> incredible. just 16 years old. cnn chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour, interviewed malala for her upcoming special, and here's a preview. >> good morning, ana and victor. she is a prodigy and appears so much older than her young years. even though she didn't get the nobel peace prize, when i asked her about it, she said, in any event, i was way too young, i haven't done enough. and she says that despite the continued threats against her life, she will keep raising her voice for peace through children's and girls' education. i asked her when we were on
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stage, what she remembered of the man, the taliban who came to her bus and fired that gun at her. >> let me take you back to that incredible day a year ago. do you remember, malala, what happened to you on that bus when somebody asked your friends, "who is malala?" >> he asked, "who is malala?" he did not give me time to answer my question. and my best friend told me, at that time you just squeezed my hand, you just pushed it with force. and you did not say anything. and then in the next few seconds, he fired three bullets. one bullet hit me on the left side of my forehead, just above here. and it went down through my neck and into my shoulder. and i think i was hit by only one bullet. and it also affected my ear
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drum, so now i have problem in listening, as well. it also cut down my facial nerve. but still, if i look at it, it's a miracle. my brain is saved, my spinal cord is saved. everything is fine. i am alive. and i still can talk. i can smile. so i thank god for that. >> you still have huge dreams. they didn't take that away from you. >> they only can shoot a body. they cannot shoot my dreams. and i think my dreams are living. the important thing -- the important thing is that they shot me. because they wanted to tell me that we want to kill you and if -- stop your campaign. but they made a mistake. the biggest mistake. they insured me and they told me
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that even that is supporting me. that even that does not want to kill me. and now i'm not afraid of death. first, i might have been. but now i am totally not afraid of death. and when i look at the support of people, then i'm sure that this cause is never going to die. and we will see that a day will come, every child with a girl or boy, whether black or white, whether christian or muslim, he or she will be going to school. >> now, as i say, she is an extraordinary girl, as you can see, from just that short clip. and we are having the whole interview on sunday, of course, as you know at 7:00 p.m. on cnn. but malala who started out wanting to be a doctor now in fact says she wants to be a politician, and even a prime minister of pakistan. her hero was the late bhutto,
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pakistan's first prime minister, first female prime minister, and she was gunned down by the taliban. ana and victor? >> not too lofty a goal for this young woman. i don't know if i ever told her tell the story about when she was shot on that bus. >> so brave. and to think she is just 16 years old. >> you can see more of her interview with malala when cnn airs "the bravest girl in the world" tomorrow night at 7:00, right here on cnn. >> and malalas story has inspired people around the world to want to help the cause of girls' education. to find out more about her new nonprofit organization, the malala fund, and for other ways you can help girls everywhere, go to cnn.com/impact. >> wow. hey, you've probably heard of people who wish for that magic pill, just pop the pill and it will help you lose weight. >> wouldn't be that nice? >> well, one pill that is supposed to help you drop pounds could end up causing liver
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and puerto rico now. federal investigators link that salmonella strain to raw chicken from foster farms processing plant in california. most of the victims are in california. a diet pill is being linked to two dozen cases of liver failure. >> and health officials are warning people, do not take it. cnn's senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen, has more. elizabeth? >> reporter: an ana, victor, the supplement is called oxyelite pro, and health authorities in hawaii noticed there were seven people who had been previously perfectly healthy who all of a sudden were having liver problems and couldn't figure it out and then more cases started popping up. now they found that 24 people with liver problems were using this supplement. two of them have had to have transplants and another person died. >> i miss her beautiful smile. i miss her everything. everything about her.
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it's such a beautiful woman. with seven children. >> the centers for disease control is now looking at other cases of liver problems in other states to see if they too are linked to oxyelite pro. we reached out to the company that makes oxyelite pro, and this is what they had to say. the cluster of liver issues in hawaii is a complete mystery, and nothing like this has ever been associated with oxyelite pro in all of the years our products have been on the market. we know of no credible evidence linking oxyelite proto liver issues. the company says they're taking the product off the market out of an abundance of caution. victor, ana? >> thank you for that. coming up, don't believe everything your smartphones and gps mapping systems tell you, right? >> uh-huh. >> one guy was nearly hit by a train thanks to a glitch in his gps. that's next. [ male announcer ] this is pam. her busy saturday
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according to new research, elephants can understand the communicative intent of human pointing. if a human points at something, an elephant can turn and instantly understand what you want. isn't that amazing? in fact, the only elephants that don't understand what people want are the republicans in congress. the rest -- all the others seem to get it. >> not everybody liked that one, jay. technology is not always perfect, although we love it. you've got your phone up here. >> i know, this morning.
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>> i he usually have mine. this weekend we are telling you and every weekend, how tech can also ruin our lives. >> we start with an issue so many of us have. right, you're constantly checking your smartphone. you're really not alone. you're guilty of this. >> according to buzz feed, this is a study by the app, lock it. the average android user checks their phone 110 times a day. some users -- and this is for real. unlock their phones more than 900 times a day. 900 times in one day. >> they need to change their setting so they don't have to keep unlocking. >> let it stay open for three minutes or so. maybe our producer nora does that. nora is always on her phone. >> always informed, bringing you the very latest. >> that was a nice spin on that. good job. have you seen skateboarders, bikers, surfers, wearing those go pro cameras? >> yeah, right, on the helmet. >> don't you wish you had invented that? >> yeah, i wish i had.
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police officers often wear similar devices, but recording the world around us could soon go to a whole new level. >> meet the narrative clip. while you wear t the device takes two photos every minute of the world around you. oh, it's also got a fwgps, meang you can use an app to find out where you were at an exact time, which, of course, could be pretty cool. but i guess kind of creepy too. >> yeah, a little bit. a lot of people seem to like it, though. last year the device raised a half million dollars on kickstarter. they start shipping next month so oh get ready to say cheese for that. my question is, can other people access where i've been? >> that's what's scary. >> i don't want other people to see the two shots of where i am at all times of the day. >> no, i don't think we want to see where you are. >> wait a minute, what are you saying? wait a minute. >> all right. moving on. >> all right. >> it seems as if we're covering a lot of stories like this next one again. a gps mapping device led someone into trouble. in fact, this was a near-death
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experience. >> what are you trying to say? no, i'm kidding. in san diego, a tourist says he was nearly hit by a train. it's because a glitch led him right on to railroad tracks in the dark. >> just two weeks ago, we told you about an apple mac glitch that led multiple people on to the runway. an airport in alaska. thankfully, no one entered in any of these incidents, but i think we're all guilty of using this as your crush wherever you go and it's not that difficult to go astray. >> i find myself in the car white numbering willing the steering wheel screaming at the phone, i can't make a left because i'm at the end of a dead end road. it happens so often. i've actually used mine to walk places. >> and we know how that can end too. for many people. >> thanks for starting your morning with us. >> we've got much more ahead on "new day saturday" which continues right now.
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hello and thanks for joining us, i'm ana cabrera. >> i'm victor blackwell. this is "new day saturday." a live look at the house floor. we have that picture up where house republicans are behind closed doors on capitol hill. right now they're starting to talk strategy. we don't have the camera up. here's the dome, though. >> yeah, you can see it's kind of a gloomy day out there, as -- there's a lot of pressure on these leaders to come up with a debt deal. their plan to raise the debt ceiling for just a few weeks right now is not a hit at the white house. >> yeah. instead of senate's plan to raise the debt ceiling for several months and reopen government is gaining a bit of traction. >> cnn's athena jones is at the capitol. tell us about this gop meeting. >> reporter: good morning, victor and ana. as you mentioned, the activity you see around here is house democratic pressure that's going to get placed under way in a few
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more minutes. but right now the house republicans are meeting, trying to figure out a way forward. as you mentioned, their plan that would just raise the debt limit until november 22nd, is not something the president wants to see. he wants to see a plan that would not only raise the debt limit, hopefully for a little longer than that, but also reopen oh the government. so they're trying to figure out how to move forward. i can tell you that right now the house is about to get -- is about to open session at 9:30. and so far on schedule, there's no scheduled vote on this debt limit plan. so there's still a lot to be worked out there. on the senate side, i should mention, senate majority leader, harry reid, is planning a vote on a bill that would raise the debt ceiling for a year with no strings attached. that plan doesn't look like it's going to get far past the senate, even if it passes the senate. it's not even expected to pass the senate. so still a lot to be worked out here on the hill today. >> okay. senate vote aside, are we optimistic that this is going to move forward, or at least are
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senators optimistic it's going to move forward? >> well, they had a meeting with president obama and said he listened to the elements of this plan. but it was un -- inconclusive so not yet committing. let me tell you about what susan collins, the senator from maine, presented to the president. this plan would both raise the debt ceiling until at least january. it would also reopen the government and repeal or delay a tax on medical devices that helps fund obama care. and it would give federal agencies more flexibility to work around poor spending cuts. that's on the table but still remains to be seen what's going to pass both houses. back to you guys. >> athena jones covering developments on the government shutdown and the debt ceiling crisis. thanks for keeping us on top of that. over at the white house, the president seems to be standing firm. he says well this fight over the debt ceiling is not one that he is willing to delay, and he's blaming republicans for a country on the brink of default right now. >> yeah, but despite those harsh
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words for republicans, the white house says the lines of communication are open. brianna keilar is at the white house this morning. brianna, things seem to be going well on thursday, because everyone was -- >> talking. >> yeah, they were talking. >> finally. >> congratulating themselves for conversing. but another plan was rejected on friday. where do we stand? >> reporter: that's right. and i think what we saw there was more a change in tone. because we just saw both sides dug in and kind of saying, oh, well, the other side can talk to me if they want and weren't really engaging. now we have this period of engageme engagement, but not really seeing, at least yet, the bridging of sort of these difficult issues that house republicans and president obama differ on. the president has said he is open to a short-term solution. he did reject the house plan for a six-week solution, at least for the debt ceiling, because he has said he's wanted longer but also that takes us right up to that holiday shopping season
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that athena was talking about. this is something the president addressed in his weekly radio address. here's what he said. >> and it wouldn't be wise, as some suggest, to just kick the debt ceiling can down the road for a couple months and flirt with the first-ever intentional default right in the middle of the holiday shopping season. because damage to america's sterling credit rating wouldn't just cause global markets to go haywire. it would become more expensive for everyone in america to borrow money. students paying for college, newlyweds buying a home. it would amount to a new tax. a randy fault tax on every family and business in america. >> and it sort of seemed yesterday, as we had a white house briefing scheduled at 1:30 and just kept getting pushed back, pushed back until when? after the markets closed. i think that was buying a little time, obviously, because the concern here is that the markets would respond emotionally and dip as they try to work out
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something on the hill that president obama will accept. so where are we? well, both sides are talking. the white house very careful not to say this is negotiating, because the president has said he would not negotiate on the debt ceiling. but really right now, guys, it's as if he's sort of waiting. he's waiting for senate republicans and house republicans and you hear they have differing plans that athena outlined. he's sort of waiting for them to find something that can pass both chambers, and that he can accept. what is that? we just don't know at this point. >> and that, of course, is the key. and that's been the problem all along. way back when the government shut down two weeks ago, and, of course, with the white house. is there any middle ground now? it kind of seems like everybody is digging in their heels, and we're back to where we started with the president saying he's not going to negotiate. >> reporter: i think you can look at it positively, that you have this plan in the senate,
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and that house republicans are meeting and hopefully that they may timpger with sort of their idea of what they can move forward on. and i think that those are all positive signals. but it's not sort of -- what everyone really wants to see is this whole thing resolved. and you're sort of watching what we call the sausage making up on capitol hill, which is never fun to watch, never appetizing. and so that's really i think the process that we're in right now. it's not necessarily a -- we're not in a bad place, necessarily. but we're not really getting to that breakthrough point, which obviously the country would need to reopen the government and to increase the debt ceiling. >> well, everybody is pleased with themselves for talking. >> reporter: they sure are. >> they are pleased with themselves. brianna keilar in washington for us. thank you. well, he has been there, and done that. former house speaker, newt gingrich, weighs in on the government shutdown, 95 and 2013. also, there is a storm on the
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so let's pull back the curtain a bit on today's activity on capitol hill with expert analysis from a man who has, as i said before the break, been there and done that. >> been there, done that. newt gingrich. he's our co host of cnn's "cross fire." he was speaker of the house during the shutdowns of 1995 and 1996. so you kind of know the shoes speaker john boehner is in, maybe what's going on behind closed doors. what's your take on sort of the back and forth we have seen in the last maybe 36 hours or so? is there progress? should we be hopeful? >> yeah, thing is a good reason to be a little bit hopeful. they're not up to negotiation yet, but they're up to conversation can. and conversation beats where
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they were for about three weeks. and the question i think the president has got to decide is, does he want to get to an agreement in the next two or three days, in which case i suspect he can, or does he want to push harder and see if he can find a way to get the senate to run over the house. in order to set up future struggles. and i don't think the president knows yet which he wants to do. so harry reid will go through a dance, the senate majority leader will go through a dance this morning, and they'll try to pass something that won't get anywhere. the house republicans, i think, will talk back channel with the senate republicans, and try to see if they can find something the president can accept. and the truth is, while he has said all along, i will not negotiate, they're pretty close to negotiating. they're right at the edge of i think having a chance to think something through. >> and what do you think that one thing may be that the president could possibly negotiate on would be? would it be the medical device tax? would that be something that he would consider? >> well, i think it depends on -- if he's determined to get
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everything -- that is both the debt ceiling for more than six weeks and reopening the government, i suspect he's going to have to give up three or four things. i would be very surprised if they would agree to just get, you know -- particularly negotiate a year-long debt ceiling. so imagine it this way. the longer the debt ceiling he wants, the more he has to pay for it. and payment mostly, as congressman paul ryan, the budget chairman has said, are mostly on things how do we get back towards a balanced budget, how do we control federal spending? and i think that's a very challenging thing for the president, because many of his are allies don't want to control spending. they believe in bigger government and higher taxes. >> so you don't think about is obama care at all anymore. >> well, obama care is still there. and frankly, the more he watches it fail, the more people say i can't get on or i'm paying much higher prices, i think obama care -- one of the things that may be happening, conservatives think obama care may collapse under its own weight and so you
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can actually take it on in a separate clean fight. but i think unless the house republicans see some fairly big things, the odds are pretty high they would not accept any kind of deal that didn't include something on obama care. >> so you wrote in an op-ed that the shutdowns in '95 and '96 really didn't hurt the gop. there is the new nbc "wall street journal" poll that shows favorable view of the republicans is 24%. tea party, 21%, all-time low. is this crystallizing, or do you think this too by the time we get to 2014 electioning will be gone. >> nate silver, analyst, just wrote a piece yesterday and said, look, all of this is noise. we have no idea what a year from now will be like. we have zero reason to believe this will last. obviously, if you're in the middle of this kind of a mess, you don't look good. but on the other hand, if six months from now people say, you know, they really began to bring spending under control, they really began to reform washington, maybe it was worth the fight, then you're in a
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different place. we gained two seats in the senate after closing the government, and we were the first re-elected republicans since 1928 after closing the government. >> but the fight is only being punished for another six months. >> that's the question. the president has got to think too. my only point is, you can have lots of fights now. the election is not this november. the election is next november. some politicians actually ought to do what they believe is right and then explain it. >> we know obviously where your political views stand. but what do the republicans need to do to help us get our government back on track? >> i think we need -- in fact, i have a book coming out next month called "breakout" and my argument is we need to rethink everything we're doing. if you look at your own private life, your smartphone, atm card, the tremendous amount of data we have that's very accurate, and you look at this mess in washington, you have huge old paper-based bureaucracies that are just incompetent. and nobody in either party is
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prepared to slow down and look at the scale of reform we need. so i think we really need, in both parties, to come into touch with the modern world in our private lives and realize, there is an enormous gap between what we routinely do nowadays and what this bureaucracy is capable of. >> all right. wish we had more time. newt gingrich, co host of "crossfire." thanks for talking with us. >> good to be here. still ahead this morning oh, strong winds already whipping the northeast coast of india. we'll have a live report as millions are bracing for a huge tropical cyclone.
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petition. let's listen. >> this government shutdown is hurting government workers, it's hurting the people in this country that need the services of this government. and it's hurting our economy. it's time to reopen the government and put people back to work. >> i now want to recognize the ranking member of the budget committee, who has been working for the last six -- we want to do -- all right. i'm going to recognize first then the ranking member of the appropriations committee, who has been working very hard to get appropriation bills passed, so we did not have this government shutdown to government workers would not be shut out of their workplace and so the american people would be served by their government, nita lohi. >> thank you. it's very clear to all of us the american people have had enough. the government shutdown is an
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abject failure of this congress to do its job. it's having a severe impact on jobs, economic growth, services and investments, that are critical to american families. speaker boehner should allow a vote on the clean senate-passed bill to open the government. it would pass with democratic and republican votes, and president obama would sign it into law, ending the shutdown today. the majority still doesn't understand that this shutdown serves no purpose, causes real pain to american families. if speaker boehner will not agree to hold a vote to reopen government, he is going to get support on the floor that will make him do so. that is why this discharge petition is so important. it gives democrats and republicans the chance to force a vote on bringing this ugly and embarrassing episode to a close.
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so i call on all my colleagues, let your voices be heard. sign the petition. let's open government. this is important for jobs, the economy, the american people and the future. thank you. >> i now want to recognize the ranking member of the budget committee, who has been working for the last six months to get a conference established so that we could discuss the issues, which apparently some have said have led to the shutdown. he has also been working very hard to get a bill on the floor, which would open the government now, put the people to work for the american public. chris van holland. >> thank you, steny. a majority of members of the house of representatives, democrats and republicans alike, are on the public record saying that they want a vote to open the entire government now.
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speaker boehner has prevented us from having a vote in the house of representatives. he has prevented democracy from working its will. in fact, on october 1st, they rigged the rules of the house in order to keep the government shutdown. this is now an opportunity to use the rules of the house to allow democracy to work its will. we're calling on every member of congress who has told their constituents that they want a vote to immediately open the government, that this is the time to show that they mean what they say. this is a chance to show here in washington, d.c. that they mean what they're telling their constituents back home in their districts, which is they want a vote to open the government now. we know the votes are there. it's just now a matter of people keeping their word to their constituents and the american people. let's get it done. let's vote to open the government now. >> i have in my hand the piece
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of legislation that mr. van hollen wants to bring to the floor. and we can substitute opening government today. what it says is, it's the government shutdown prevention act. if they meant that, they too will sign the petition that we are about to go into the house of representatives, all of my colleagues on the democratic side of the aisle signed this petition. get the government open. do it today. questions? >> you sound like you're not totally sure you're going to get enough signatures here. what do you think is going to happen, and also what about the debt ceiling? >> well, i think you're probably correct on the fact that we're not sure, because a lot of people have said they want the government open. but have refused to provide for a ways and means to get the government open. we could do it today. we ought to do it today. we're going to try to do it today. >> do you have any assurances from the leadership that if you
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get the signatures they would allow you to move forward on monday? there was some question about whether or not that would be okay. has that been established? >> so you've been listening to house democratic leadership there, talking about taking this discharge petition to the house floor to use this as a maneuver, as an end game to end the shutdown. if they get their 200 democrats, which they will, and then the 19 republicans who have gone public, saying that they are ready to vote for a clean cr. they would be able to bring it to the floor for a vote without the support of house leadership, john boehner. >> right. so this would be a way to get around his leadership by forcing a vote on the clean spending bill. they think they have the votes and they think if everybody signs this petition, they would be able to then vote on the clean spending bill, that would be enough to get the government back up and running. so that's the big question right now. we're following developments closely. we have teams all across the capitol and at the white house following developments as they happen throughout the morning
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