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join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett starts right now. obama care under siege. >> the way they operate is very significant. >> a child's voice calling for help. >> can you please send police out here? a kid with a gun. >> new details about the school shooting in nevada. and apple's big gamble. the first look at the new ipad. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront, marco rubio takes on the president of the united states. today republican senator said he will introduce a bill to push back obama care. right now the deadline to sign
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up or else face penalties is march 31st. but rubio says it is not ready for prime time. >> the problems inherent in the way this website operates are very significant. and i think it will be very difficult to reverse this in a number of weeks. >> the white house not budging. but it could be facing even more pressure as the real cost of obama care is now coming to light. cas casey? >> the state of colorado wants everyone to know that even these bros can afford obama care. everyday folks are shown with the tag line, thanks obama care. kentucky's governor said 1,000 people a day are signing up for his version of the affordable care act. >> i'll guarantee you a year from now they'll look back at these critics, including the senators and representatives and say you misled us. because hey, this works. i've got affordable health care. >> people with preexisting
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medical conditions clearly benefit from obama care. but many others are paying more. a detail that some in congress said the administration didn't make clear to the public as part of the program's failed website launch. republicans on the congressional committee on oversight and government reform single this letter monday to the obama administration demandingnesses a. it reads in part, we believe the political decision to mask the sticker shock of obama care to the american people prevend contractors from using universally accepted best practices in the development and rollout of this massive government federal i.t. project. it is easy to see why chaos would ensue. >> it probably costs twice as much and not performing than it should if best practices and efficient system had been delivered. >> the white house says republicans are twisting the facts. however the administration has made changes to the website. in the past two days that now allow consumers to type in their
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county and state and guess estimated price quotes as well as information about six dis, something they couldn't do before without filling out an application. >> there are problems that need to be addressed. we're improving the experience every day. >> the concern remains the price tag. the webb alone, about $300 million. the overall cost? $1.4 trillion over ten years. the goal is for all that spending to lead ultimately to lower health care costs and reduced budget deficits. that dpenlds on the performance of obama care. and so far it has been a really rough start. >> a really rough start. thank you very much. now our second story outfront. kathleen sebelius. the health and human services secretary is under increasing pressure. there is even a hash tag on twitter about firing her. but she fighting back. she just sat down for her first interview since the obama care rollout fiasco. the entire interview will air in the 8:00 hour of cnn.
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sanjay gupta will be hosting but he is "outfront" now. how did she defend herself? she is getting arrows from every corner? >> there was a lot of thing that you've heard before. first, i think she is very concerned. no question. i've talk to her many times over the years. this is as concerned as i've seen her. but she often talks about the overall mission being what's driving everybody and even the white house i asked specifically, given all the concerns before the rollout. why did they continue to go forward? and did the president know about these problems before the rollout? and she said the president did not know. he was not brought boo the loom ahead of october 1st. there were significant concerns, even people in hhs and there had been a test of the system with a few hundred people. and it crashed. she said we're going to bring in the a-team to help move this thing forward. to which i obviously asked, why
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now are you bringing in the a-team? something of this magnitude. why wasn't it there before october 1st. to make sure things went smoothly. she said well, yeah, good point. this is what we're doing now. so that's a little bit of it. it kept coming back to we'll get millions of people health care insurance and it is continuing to drive people here. >> admitting that they didn't have the a-team and also, it sounds like, just admitting that it crashed and failed and they just, did they launch with it a hope and a prayer? that won't happen again? >> i asked that. why did not you delay? given something of this magnitude, why did not you delay? well, millions of people have been waiting for health insurance. would it have mat period much to wait even a week or a month? and not a really great answer to that. i also asked something you were talking about. this idea that had she offered
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her resignation to the president works she consider doing so or had the president asked for it? and the answers to all those questions were some variation of no. and it said, if that came to it, then that's not something she wanted to address right now. but that she was really talking about the mission moving forward in terms of getting people health care coverage. >> thank you very much. and of course as emingd with, sanjay will have that full interview. you'll be able to see his exclusive conversation. i want to bring in our panel. shawn spicer, communications director for the republican national committee. and brad woodhouse for the democratic national committee. great to have both of you with us. let me start with you. you heard what he said. kathleen sebelius standing by it saying yes, it looks good. we know we have problems but we're bringing in the a-team. probably got you steaming as to why the a-team wasn't already there. but also she said no, no, no, i haven't offered my resignation.
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the president hasn't asked for it. take a hike. >> that's extremely concerning that you can botch something this important and this expensive and not even think that i owe it to the american people. i owe it to the taxpayers and frankly to this administration. maybe they should bring in the a-team. and maybe they should bring in people who are qualified to administer and run this program. what concerns me right now is this thing has been botched so bad that i'm not sure they know the difference between the a-team in the tech people and the a-team on the tv show. that's how scary it is in material of the rollouts. let's look at one quick thing. the white house brought in 13 people to do the pitch man, billy mays activity where they talked about how this is run themselves run in 13 people. the problem is only three had actually enrolled in obama care. that's how bad it is themselves can't even find 13 people that have actually enrolled. this is going to be health care by the dmv. and they realized that they are in big, big trouble and they need more than the a-team.
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>> to be fair, some of those people, one of them was a pharmacist and she wouldn't have signed up for it because she was employed by cvs. she said her point was they were customers. so just to make sure i'm clear. but what about shawn's point but also casey reporting, for many people in this country who have insurance. the majority of people. a lot of them have insurance through big companies. they are paying more. i know at our company we've all been told directly, you're paying more because of obama care. that is something that might surprise and concern a lot of people. and might indicate a problem that runs a little deeper than a failed webb. >> i run an organization. counseling what? we're not paying more. i think there are companies who are seeing premium increases that were going to happen any way. who would like to blame it on obama care or company that are opposed to the president politically. who are making -- hold on. who are making changes to their
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health care plans and blaming it on obama care because they have a political axe to grinld. let me say, shawn clearly playing politics with this. we've seen report after report after report. >> you mean robert gibbs. >> report after report after report about premiums going down in new york, in california. they weren't rushing out saying that's a great thing. i mean, the rnc and republicans shut down the government to try to enobama care. is anyone really going to take them as credible choice? they're happy the website has glitches. they're rooting for failure. what we need to do is improve it and make it work for millions of people. that's what's happening. >> there's two issues at stake. one is the management of this program. the execution of it. it troubles me greatly when the answer that the secretary gave sanjay was no, one informed the
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president. wait a second. this is the number one issue, the number one legislative piece of the president's agenda. and no one tells him that when 200 people get on the site, it crashes. that's a problem. if i were the president, i would have said what would it have taken for to you tell me this? second the issue of cost isn't just the problem. we're also seeing americans have their hours cut down. . americans were get bigg on 40 hours a week are getting cut back to 29. >> that is not true. >> you're making up all these companies. >> there has been report after report that there is not a bit of data including the labor department's employment figures for last month. >> real company and real people. >> that indicate that there is any shift to part time employment. part time employment fell. full time employment increased in this country. >> final word. >> i understand that you needed to bring on somebody from both
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sides. test cruz's effort to enobama care. they really don't care whether obama care works or fails. the american people want to it work. >> you were a great duo december fate disagreement. still to come, a terrorist suspect in this country has hepatitis c. could taxpayers be responsible for his potential sky high medical costs? plus a mystery that's cap 58thing the world. the girl found in greece. thousands pouring in from around the world and now they're saying she might belong to someone in the united states. who is she? and our first look at apple's newest item. thinner, faster, lighter. farmer: hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer.
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put it on the taxpayer's tab. new details emerging about the health, he is being tried in new york. he is here right now. for his suspected role in the bombings. he suffers from hepatitis c. his family said he needs a liver transplant. his lawyer said that mine be true but his lawyer says his trial will be prolonged and that could make it necessary. chris lawrence is out front with what it would cost and how much taxpayers in the united states pay for terrorists' health care. >> u.s. commandos snatched the suspected terrorist off the streets of trimly. but his camden you are may come
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with a huge bill for health care. he is in u.s. custody accused of planning the bombings of two american embassies in africa. attacks in which more than 200 people were killed. >> his family says he has an advanced case of hepatitis c. >> this is a preexisting condition that he brought with him. >> if he needs a liver tragic, it would cost taxpayers up to $250,000. his medications could cost more than $50,000 a area for life and he is only 49 years old. on tuesday his attorney said he is getting medication to treat the hep c. he does not have cirrhosis of the liver and doesn't need a tran. >> he has to be given proper health care. that's a basic obligation the united states has to its prisoners. >> it is just the tim of a health care iceberg.
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with dozens of suspected terrorists at guantanamo bay likely to die of old age, if kept at the prison. >> i think that is a likelihood. some of those, you cannot envision anything else other than detaining them. >> it costs u.s. taxpayers millions a year for each detainee there. and as they get older, the price of their medical care is likely to skyrocket. >> one detainee needed heart surgery. the u.s. government had to fly in a cardiac team into guantanamo because they didn't have the facilities. >> and andrea, a human rights watch says medical costs make a good argument for moving detainees to federal prison. >> as expensive as health care may be in the united states, it is a lot cheaper in the u.s. than at guantanamo. >> and some of them have filed emergency motions with courts asking for additional medical care like additional tests for heart disease or devices to help with breathing. we're likely to see more and more of these additional medical needs as the detainees get older
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and get all the ailment that's come with old age. >> thank you very much. we make some people think differently about guantanamo. the money and power of apple. apple trouds the new ipad today. air. it is not just a little thing, you know, a fancy little ahh. it is real. 20% thinner, 30% lighter than the current ipad. with the same screen and the processing chim. it hits stores november 1st. wi-fi only. it is no deal but you know what? you don't always need a deal. everyone wants to know if it is a must have device or just another ipad. richard quest is the host of quest means business and he is "outfront." the bottom line, is it worth it? >> the question is do you change from something like this? >> yes. you change from that because you need a new case or something. >> this is the old ipad 2. it has served me well. and am i got go spend extra for
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something a little bit lighter? a pound as opposed to 1.4. it is thinner. supposedly a bit faster. but apple no longer has this to themselves. called today, triple tablet tuesday. we got three tablets from three different manufacturers. we got apple's ipad air. we got microsoft with the surface pro two. and we got nokia with their first lumia tablet. so the game is changing. >> so there is a lot more competition. let me ask you this. when you evaluate the apple versus these other ones, you have two new iphones, you talk about it. pacific crest says the iphone 5 s in the u.s., outstripping the one with the colors. >> it hasn't really worked and was not ga idea. >> stock this year down 15%. when you look at the stock market, it is up more than 20%. is this enough to turn it
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around? now they have more competition. >> you have to get away from the idea of thinking it is a device. you need to start thinking about echo systems do you mean want to be an ios? an android? or do you want to be in wind owes 8 or some versions of the windows phone sterm? that is the future. those people who have this won't necessarily have an android phone. if they have an android phone, you're looking puzzled and dismayed. >> these thing, are i'm not a tech savvy -- >> right. but the future is very much in which system of operating system do you want to be part of? what an sl doing at the moment is still premium. by no means does it have the game to itself. >> translation, you say even if it is successful. they're going on lose the market share. more thing coming in. >> in order for the company to grow and the stock price to go up, they need to come up with something better or something different. a new category.
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the big disappointment is that it is incremental. it is not quantum leap. now, your viewers will be wanting to know which ones they prefer. it will be dependent upon which echo system you are in. android, windows or apple. >> on that note we will ask for your tweets. we'll see what richard can pull together. thank you. good to see you. and please get a new cover. still to come, a mystery child found living with a couple in greece. no one knows where she came from. it is the international mystery. thousands of leads pouring in from around the world. the question is are we going to find out who she is and is she american? plus the latest from yesterday's deadly school shooting.
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who does the mystery girl in greece belong to? thousands of leads have been pouring in from around the world after this little girl, blond, blue eyed, was discovered in a greek jips community last week? they're called the roma. histcally refred to as gypsies. officials are investigating 10 missing children. including lisa irwin. you may remember her. we covered her on this program two years ago shelf vanished from her home in kansas city and george howell is outfront. >> reporter: october marks two years since lisa irwin went missing. but now her family has new hope. thousands of miles away in europe. a girl only known as maria taken by greek officials from a roma family charged with abducteding
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her. >> when you look at that picture and the picture we've seen from greece, what there similarities? what do you see? >> i see the same facial structure. the same eyes. and you have to remember that for example, i have a friend that has a 2-year-old daughter whose eyes are just now changing color. little maria's eyes are a little different in the color but they're still in the same color family. >> this girl found in greece. could she actually be from kansas city? robert lowry with the national center for missing and exploited children says a full investigation is underway. >> we're working with interpol. we're asking that the dna data be shared with our laboratories here in the united states for comparison purposes for the children missing. frankly it does not appear that this may be any of our children but again, we want to confirm one way or the other. >> there is also the question of
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the child's age. dental records indicate maria is either 5 or 6 years old. baby lisa would only be 3 next month. >> the dental records that you just mentioned, that's kind of the first time we've heard about that as a for sure type of thing. so -- >> does that discourage you? >> absolutely not. it doesn't discourage me at all. like i am, lisa is very, very big for her age. when she was kidnapped, she was almost 11 months old and she was wearing size 18 month and 2 t. a very big girl. >> the last time deborah bradley saw her daughter lisa, she was just a baby. the night she vanished from her bed after what her parents say was a home invasion in 2011. the mystery of what happened here captured national attention. the parents even questioned by police at one point. but they have seen this community rally behind them. ment on miss particular about any lead that comes in, desperately hoping this time it
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is a match. >> the irwins are unof many families saying this child is theirs. this child has given so many people hope. are authorities aggressively looking all these cases? they have dna from the little girl. it would seem they can get an answer. >> we're talking about ten different families at this case. hoping that this could be the answer they've been looking for. however, we're also learning from greek officials that the dna of maria, the dna does not match any of the dna they have on record in their international database. and we are also hearing from the state department, basically saying that they have no information. that this could be an american citizen. but still we know this family is holding out hope and they are hoping for a dna test to answer these questions conclusively. >> thank you very much. i think everyone wants to know where she came from and what the
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story is. we have more information from b a utah officer accused of murder go his wife. you'll hear the police officers. plus the controversial move by facebook. why it says it will allow violent acts to be seen. and bases arrest connection between two very different stories. one of the men who pushed this boulder off its mooring. the guy suing for disability. well, one of the guys that is here in this picture is connected to jodi arias.
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welcome back. police officers took stand in the trial of martin mcneil. the utah doctor accused of drugging and drowning his wife as she was recovering from a facelift. multiple officers testified that mcneil was hysterical and disruptive as medics tried to revive his wife. >> he was blurting out things like why did you have to have the surgery? why are you on so many medications? why, god in and he was pacing about in and out of the home. and just hysterical. >> now, according to the officer you saw, he seemed surprised questioning why his wife had the facelift. and prosecutors say he was the one who pressed her relenllessly to have kos surgery. the trial will be this week.
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in australia, 2,500 firefighters are working around the clock to put out wild that go about 1,000 miles. this is worst they've ever seen. but they say it will get worse themselves say stronger winds and higher temperatures are coming tomorrow. >> we're certain of the weather conditions and for the fires to run and spread. it is about as bad as it gets. with as bad as it gets. fires have burned land the size of look near sydney. controversial move by facebook. and then a bit of a backtrack later in the day. so facebook lifted a ban on videos of beheadings. they said, it made sense as long as it raised awareness. it is hard to imagine an actual video of a beheading that would raise awareness. if the video were being celebrated or the actions are encouraged, the approach would be different. the problem is if you show a video of a beheading, somebody might have been celebrating it.
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there was immediate outcry over the decision. the ceo of facebook will take a hard look. facebook does prohibit any kind of nudity, drug use or pornography. our sixth story. panic and mayhem at the nevada school shooting. we have newly released 911 call that reveal the deadly scene that unfolded outside the sparks middle school yesterday. take a listen. >> somebody brought a gun to school and they shot a teacher. >> the teacher's down? >> yes. >> okay. we'll get somebody out there right away. you're at sparks middle school? >> yes. they shot again. >> shot again? >> yeah. >> can you please send police out here? there is a kid with a gun. >> okay. where are they? >> there is a gun. where are they with the gun? >> sparks middle school. >> i know. but where at the school? that's what i'm saying. >> by the basketball court.
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>> hard to hear a child's voice like that. authorities have not yet identified the 12-year-old shooter. they say he wounded two students and killed the math teacher before turning the gun on himself and shooting himself. he approach the shooter, appeared to try to talk him down which enabled other shooters to he is came. outfront, stephanie is on the scene. those 911 calls are hard to listen to. especially when you hear that child on trying to explain. trying to be calm. what are authorities saying about the motive? >> reporter: yeah. the emotion is so raw when you hear the calls. at this point authorities are trying to figure out what could have made this 12-year-old come to school before school started and start shooting like he did. one thing they have decided is what could have been a way worse situation was made better because of mike lansbury. they say he enter veenld and
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stepped up. we did talk to some members of the nevada national guard. we know that mike lansbury had served some 14 years. they said they believed his military training may have played a part. take a listen. >> he was trying to save the children. he was trying to save that child. and from what i understand, he did not hesitate. he walked up to the child very calmly and tried to talk shooter out of the weapon. and it didn't work out. >> and at the same time, they're also pointing to the staff and the students at the school for making sure that the shooter did not make it inside of the school. he was only out on the playground area. they're saying it could have been a way worse situation if that had been allowed. >> when you think about what we're learning, the very latest on what's happening about this child. this 12-year-old who did the shooting. what else do you know in i know
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there's been very limited information. 12 years old is so young though. we know his parents are getting police protection. they're working the police and koomting completely. but talt, the police are making sure there is not any sort of retaliation. they're helping. the one thing we have learned. the investigation into where this gun came from continues, it is possible they could face charges. they're not at that point now. the other thing that we also learned is that one of the students who was there on campus at the time said he heard the student shooter yelling different thing like why are you laughing at me? that he was screaming at the time of the shooting but all the students were running as fast as they could to get away and took refuge in a nearby home. so still learning about all that happened on this campus yesterday morning. >> thank you very much. so many questions, of course, that we need answered. as a country when you think
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about, if you start looking at people at that age committing these sorts of heinous, horrific crime. what we need to do about it. our seventh story, the boulder tumbler's legal troubles. we told you about this last night. only the investigators are working to determine the type of punishment that three men will face for tipping over a 3,000 pound ancient boulder. one of the men is suing for disability but managed to push over the boulder themselves filmed themselves while strike a natural wonder in utah can be seen cheering after scout leader again taylor knocked rocks from its perch. we're learning the man who took this video has ties to another very high profile case. you have to hear this one to believe it. and tom foreman is "outfront." ♪ wiggle it a little bit >> it took millions of years to build the rock formation in utah's goblin valley.
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it took seconds for glenn tailor to push one over. [ laughter ] but now it seems increasingly possible the viral video of that instant in time could produce long lasting repercussions. for starter, both taylor and the man who shot the video dave hall had been relieved of their duties as boy scout leaders, as has a third man. they may face criminal charges. as one of the men told a local payment, they've been getting death threats from people this germany and spain and new zealand. hundreds and hums of hateful messages. never mind that they said they were performing a public service because it might fall on people using the park. >> that thing wobbled. i looked at that main path, that main walkway and i thought, one
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gust of wind and a family is dead. >> but the strangeness just won't stop. does he look familiar? he was a close friend of travis alexander. the man murdered by former girlfriend gone bad jodi arias. he appeared on tv dozens of time during her trial, right through the guilty verdict. >> today travis' family will get a good night's sleep knowing justice worked. >> but hale may not be sleeping well and he is avoiding tv. he told outfront, based on the advice of his lawyer, he is not speaking to the press. >> and here is a final odd twist. one reason that area in utah is a state park is that people as far back as the 1960s feared the delicate rock formations needed to be protected or they might be destroyed. by vandals. it is all rising like a dust devil around the rock toppingers who can only wait to see how the
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scales of justice might tip. for outfront, tom foreman. cnn. >> it doesn't get more strange. we've been following this story, demanding justice for daisy coleman. and an environmental threat. pollution levels more than 30 times the recommended standards have forced basically the closure of an entire city. you cannot imagine this. but we will go there with you. (vo) you are a business pro.
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we're back. we go to china where dangerous smog has clearly closed one city in the northeast. millions are affected by pollution levels more than 30 times the recommended level. so david mckenzie went. >> reporter: the pollution in beijing is bad today in northeast china. it is off the charts bringing a city of some 10 million people to a tanstill. flights have been canceled. the road in and out of town shut down. even students can't go to school
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of government authorities said it is because the heating sterm which is coal powered has been turned on. but they believe that they tried to fix the pollution problem here in china with stringent measures. but activists say that there is no end in sight. erin in. >> look at that skyline. i always remember the only time i've ever been in beijing when it was sunny was when hillary clinton was there and they seeded the clouds. she left and it looked like it looked behind david mckenzie. a rally for justice. hundreds are gathered in the streets of maryville, for daisy coleman. she said she was 14 when she was raped by a 17-year-old high school senior who plied her with alcohol. the county prosecutor dropped the charges citing a lack of evidence. pfls nearly two years ago. now a special prosecutor is looking at the case. kyung lah in maryville. >> reporter: the national media
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dedescribing on maryville. first physical gathering for protesters after social media fervor driven by online activist group anonymous under the hash tag, justice for daisy. >> this is a grassroots effort. there have been people throughout the entire nation that have been working to try to final some kind of solution in some way to help. that makes a difference. >> reporter: protester are energized. now that the teen rape case is being reopened. national pressure, it promised local politics would play no part. >> our review of this case would be without fear and without favor. >> key words for daisy coleman. just 14 years old. when she and a 13-year-old friend say they were raped by two high school boys after a night of drinking. >> yes. there was i believe a crime that occurred. >> the sheriff arrested the accused boys but local prosecutor rob wright dropped the charges. why? he says daisy and her mother
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refused to testify in court. cole they say that's a lie themselves believe the real reason charges were dropped. one of the accused met barnett, his grand father is a former i think this actually may be the one thing that gets the truth out. >> reporter: after it does, this missouri town of 12,000 will begin the job of asking itself the tough questions. >> after this process is complete and the media attention dies down thanks we're going to have to work together as a community to increase awareness in our community about events and how young people treat each other. >> and the vigil is happening now. and i know there are people behind you. there are hundreds of people there tonight. what has been the tone there in maryville? >> reporter: it's very passionate and very peaceful and they are everyone sizing they want it to be peaceful.
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there are people who have drif b several hours from other states. they have no connection to this town but came here because they are so moved by what happened today see. they also say that they wanted to be a part of a larger discussion about rape and rape victims and erin, we should also say we ran into daisy's grandfather and cousin. they were crying and chanting justice for daisy because they say they are finally glad to see people in this town supporting her. >> thank you. i want to bring in daisy's mother melinda. you know, you're there, i know, today has to be a really emotional day. our reporter standing there in the street with the people behind talking about your family in tears. how do you feel about what's happening there today? >> i'm really touched. i think it's a wonderful sentiment and i'm really touched
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and happy. >> the special prosecutor was appointed just yesterday. are you -- have you had a chance to speak with her, melinda? >> just to say hello. we are meeting soon, and i'm really excited about it, really happy. >> and i know this has to be the hard part to think about this, for so long you weren't getting a lot of support and now, you know, you're so emotional with these people coming and sup potting your daughter and what she went through but obviously, i know in part of your mind you have to be thanking well, her case might get reopened but there might not be a conviction. is that a possibility you've considered? would it be enough now that so many people have rallied behind your child? >> i think that just the fact that we're being heard and we're getting a chance at justice is
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huge. all we've ever wanted was to have some justice. >> and what comes next -- >> so even if -- >> go ahead. >> what -- >> i'm sorry. >> we have a delay, so i'm sorry, i interrupted you. what comes next for you? i know this has now become overwhelming and exhausting, i'm sure in someways good -- sometimes in a good way but also, you know, it's taken over your life at this point. >> yes, absolutely. at this point just waiting to meet with the prosecutor, the new prosecutor and see what can be let her take the wheel for awhile. >> all right. well melinda -- >> see what's going to happen there. >> thank you so much for taking the time, and i know it's a meaningful day for you, and i'm sure for daisy, as well. so thank you. >> yes, thank you.
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out front next, a throuview controversial new film. it's called "black fish." when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals:
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this thursday, cnn will air the television premiere of "black fish." it tells story of a talented sea world trainer killed by a 12,000
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pound orca and it raises serious questions who was to blame. >> tamary made mistakes. the most important one was interacting with whales without a spotter. so she's putting her foot on or id, she's taking her foot off, she's taking it off. watching the video knowing orchid, your stomach drops because you know what is probably going to happen. she grabbed her foot. tamary whips around and she grabs the gate. you see her just ripped from the gate. at this point tamary knows she's in trouble. she's under the water, splash and orchid both have her. she's totally out of view. nobody knows this is happening. people start to scream as the park guest that was filming it. you hear, you don't see her, but
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you hear tamary surface. you hear her just scream out somebody help me and the way she screamed it, was just such a blood curdling like she knew she was going to die. rob, when he ran over he made a brilliant decision. he told the trainer to take the chain off. by taking the chain off it would give the precursor he is coming in. he's more dominate than orchid let her go. her arm, it was u shaped. it was come bound fractured. she's very lucky to be alive, that's for sure. >> now of course, critics of the film, including sea world called "black fish" inaccurate and misleading. we hope you watch it for yourself and decide for yourself
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whether you think orcas should be held in captivity. it area this thursday night at 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. thanks so much as always for joining us. i'll see you later tonight and same time tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now with sanjay gupta. erin, thanks. tonight breaking news, a 360 exclusive, if you're wondering why you can't get the affordable health insurance promised stay tuned. i got done seeking answers from the woman in charge. he addresses critics that want her to resign and you'll see it here. later, a little girl front in greece is she also the little ground lost in kansas city and this. 911 emergency? theres an armed gunman at sparks middle school. >> a