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whether you think orcas should be held in captivity. it area this thursday night at 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. thanks so much as always for joining us. i'll see you later tonight and same time tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now with sanjay gupta. erin, thanks. tonight breaking news, a 360 exclusive, if you're wondering why you can't get the affordable health insurance promised stay tuned. i got done seeking answers from the woman in charge. he addresses critics that want her to resign and you'll see it here. later, a little girl front in greece is she also the little ground lost in kansas city and this. 911 emergency? theres an armed gunman at sparks middle school. >> and a man that ran toward the
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gunfire, not away, his story beinged to. the exclusive chance to ask the question so many americas want answers to. what on earth is wrong with the rollout of the affordable care act and should the person in charge of the whole thing lose her job because of it? by next spring every american is supposed to have health insurance, most will get it through employers and some medicaid but some will buy cover rare on their own. in california, new york, kentucky and others, they set up their marketplaces to shop for it and they are doing are the. 36 other states, though, people have to use the federal site, health ca health care.glove and it's a mess. how is the signup going? 12% say it's going well, just 12%. nearly half say it's not and even though you can't sign up by phone, not just by online, trouble with the website is reflecting badly on the health
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care act itself. 55% say problems with the website are a sign of broader problems. now remember, this is president obama's signature accomplishment. he battled to pass it. he fought to defend it. he campaigned to preserve it and he with stood a government shutdown aimed at destroying it and today the white house promised what they are calling a technology surge to fix it. health and human services secretary named a management troubleshooter to head up the efforts. critics say she's the problem accusing her of bundling the rollout and not having answers to basic accountability questions. tonight she speaks to the critics. it's a "360" exclusive and here is part one. >> the president had broadly outlined a lot of the benefits in the affordable care act in a speech yesterday. i want to talk about this website and ask specifically what is wrong with it? >> i think what we know is we had an enormous volume and the volume both caused some issues
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to show up and exposed additional issues. people can't get through it as quickly as possible. other people are getting through every day. we're not at all satisfied with the workings of the website. we want it to be smooth and easy and let consumers compare plans and choose a plan good for themselves and their family, and that's what i'm focused on. >> so this was a volume problem? >> well, i think volume was extremely high which is good news. we've had nearly 20 million people visit the website in the first three weeks, and that shows, i think, the interest people have in affordable, available health coverage but i would say volume caused some problems but also exposed some additional problems. so we're working hard to make sure that people can go on the site, find the plans they want, make good decisions for themselves and their families. >> you know, according to congressional investigators just weeks before the launch, about 2/3rds of insurers had specific
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concerns that the website would not be ready just days before the launch a test was conducted and the website crashed with just a few hundred users at that time. how was that decision made to still go forward? >> sanjay there are people in this country who have waited decades for the affordable health care. you probably seen them on the resent bus tour, people so eager for this to happen. and what is clear we have a product. the product really works. we have created a market where there wasn't a market. people have competitive private plans at affordable prices. they have the advantage if they don't have an employer paying a share, they will have tax help paying a share. so waiting is not really an option. people can sign up on the website at the call center in person. we have people signing up each and every day. we just want to make sure that the website works smoothly for
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everybody. >> what degree of confidence did you have on october 1st when you woke up that things would go smoothly? >> i was optimistic that things would go smoothly. i felt that, you know, the day had finally come. i've done this work now for three and a half years implementing this historic law. we already got millions of people affordable coverage, young adults, parents with children with preexisting conditions who had no options before now have lots of options. we'll make sure that people actually can take advantage of this and what the good news is that although as the president said yesterday that shopping cart may not be working quite well, the products are on the shelves. we have created a market. we're early in the first quarter in football terms. we have a six-month open enrollment period and i'm confident that millions of americans at the end of open enrollment, march 31st will have affordable coverage for the first time in their lives. >> this whole process and
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obviously this being one of the biggest domestic policy initiatives in this administration, there were changes being made it sounded like to the website pretty close to the end. one of the changes that you're probably been getting questions about is this idea that there was a feature to basically create it so people had to sign up or actually register before being able to see plans. one of the concerns was that they would not be able to comparison shop or it might hide actual premium prices. is that true? >> well, i don't know what you're referring to. i do know that we have two options. there is the so-called learn site of healthcare.gov where people can find out about insurance. what we know is a lot of people don't know about insurance. they don't know how to balance that in their monthly budgets. there also is a way to pull up information about your state, what is available, what the plans look like. what you can't find out on that site of the plan, you can use a
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calculator but can't really find out what tax subsidy you and your family might be eligible for. the other side is the enroll side, and at healthcare.gov and at that point your tax subsidy can be figured in in an individualized basis and the large majority of uninsured americans are eligible for some financial help buying that coverage, lowering their premium cost. >> have you signed on the site? >> i've created an account i haven't tried signing up because i have insurance. >> did you find it challenging? did you think? >> there are challenges. it could be smoother. it could be easier to access. >> did you let people -- >> nobody says the site is working the way we want it to. certainly, the president acknowledged yesterday nobody could be more frustrated than i am and the president that this isn't smooth. people are signing up every day. people have available coverage and no one, i think it's
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important to say, sanjay is losing coverage now. the earliest the plans start is january 1st. if you sign up by the 15th of december, you will have coverage on day one. so people are frustrated with the website, but the product is there. the prices are good. it will not sellout and the prices won't change. >> the president did say that he was angry about this. i mean, do you know when he first knew that there was a problem? >> well, i think it became clear fairly early on, the first couple days -- >> so not before that? not before october 1st there was no concern at the white house or hhs? >> i think we talked about having testing going forward, and if we had an ideal situation and could have build a product and, you know, a five-year ped i didn't do of time, we probably would have taken five years. we didn't have five years, ask certainly, americans who rely on health coverage didn't have five years for us to wait. we wanted to make sure we made
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good on this final implantation of the law, and again, people can sign up. the call center is open for business. we had a million 10,000 calls. 19 million people visit the website. 500,000 accounts created and people shopping every day. people are signing up and help in neighborhoods around the country that people can have a one-o one-on-one visit with a trained navigator. >> how many people have signed up? >> up until now, she hasn't had an answer to that particular question. so will she this time? see what she says, that's next. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas,
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we've done it with chipp. we'll give monthly enrollment figures. we said that since the beginning. we can tell you we have 500,000 plus accounts right now with people that established that in the process of shopping for affordable coverage. >> it seems like an important thing to know, i imagine, especially given the problems with the site. how well is it working? can you say right now how well healthcare.gov is working? >> i think we can tell you thousands of people have signed up. we know people are getting through every day. it is not where we need it to be. it isn't as smooth as we want it to be for the volume of people that want this product. the good news is we have a product. we have a market. we have competitive plans, affordable prices and no one will ever be locked out of the insurance market again with a preexisting health condition and that's really great news to millions of americans. >> there is a lot of frustration, obviously, in the
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country and no one probably knows this better than you and the president. did you ever talk about resigning to the president? >> what i talked about is doing a job that i came here to do. this is the most important work i've ever done in my life, delivering on a historic act, making sure we have health security for the millions of americans. this law was passed three and a half years ago. i've been working day in and day out this implement this law, and at the end of the day it's about people like evelyn hernandez in miami. single mom with no health coverage and her workplace is terrified every day something will happen to her f. she gets hurt, no one is there to take care of her child. evelyn finally has health security and millions of evelyns like her. >> there are great stories like there, but there is a lot of frustration, as you next mad come secretary. would you consider resigning over this? >> my job is to fully get this
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implemented and get the website working right and that's what i'm really focused on. i work at the pleasure of the president. he is singularly focused on making sure we deliver on this promise. that's what i'm committed to doing. >> what has he said to you about this? >> let's get it done. you heard him yesterday in the rose garden. he is the first to admit that the website doesn't work the way we need it to work. so that's one of the reasons, sanjay, we announced this text surge and bringing in new eyes and ears. jeff who is a colleague and friend of mine from this administration is coming in as a management consultant to the ad minute stray tore of cms and look at the management system and make as you were we have the best and brightest in terms of tech folks. we gathered them together and ask the contractors to bring the a team to the table. have asked the presidential invasion fellows to add some strength because we just want to
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make sure we get all the right answers and do what is needed to be done as quickly as possible to open up the doors of this marketplace. >> jeff brings a ceo background -- >> you bet. >> what about tech people? we hear the best and brightest. are there people or companies we will recognize? can you give us names? >> right now we've asked all of our contractors to look at the teams on the ground and bring in the absolute a team and i'm confident that that is happening every day. while we also -- >> the contractors didn't do such a great job so far. why didn't they bring the a team in in the first place. >> i can't tell you -- >> why are you saying three weeks now bring the a team into the equation? >> we hope they have their a team on the table but i'm talking to ceos and making sure we have the talent they have available. i think all of them have folks who are assigned to a project. we want new eyes and ears.
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we want to make sure we get all the questions on the table, that we get all the answers and accelerate the fix as quickly as possible. >> i know open enrollment goes for six months until the end of march. >> it does. >> but when will this be fix snd. >> as quickly as i can get it fixed. it's improving every day. more people are getting through. more people are having an easier time and we intend to stay at this until we open the doors wide open. >> do we deserve a specific date? i mean, what can we tell people? because there is a little bit of a loss of confidence in this. so if you say as quickly as possible, that meant october 1st. >> well, what we can tell you is it isn't where it needs to be. we're three weeks into a 26-week open enrollment period. people are enrolling every day. not as many as we would like, not at the volume we would like, and we will keep working on it until it is working as efficiently as possible. in the meantime, go to the
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website. healthcare.gov, call the call center 24 hours a day, seven days a week there are individuals that can answer questions in 150 languages and actually help people enroll. walk them through the enrollment that is available and also, navigators. the person trained assistants on the ground who can do the paper application. we have a website. we have a call center where you can walk through and get the product and we have actual volunteers on the ground. people have lots of options and what we know and this three weeks has demonstrated clearly millions of americans want this product, millions of americans have waited a very long time and we want to make sure that they at the end of the day get the health security that they want and deserve. >> let me ask a couple more questions. i know our time is short, but the individual mandate. the concern is if there is this idea that people had a hard time signing up, they didn't get
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signed up for whatever reason on time, can they still be penalized? can you penalize people if it was so come beer some? >> people can sign up any of the three ways -- >> does that mean the website is not that important then? >> it is certainly a tool, ask we think it can be an easy tool for people that are tech savvy and want to use a website and we determine it be a lot easier than it is now. what i know, though, is that lots of people and people i talk to every day are not tech savvy, want a live human being to sit and answer questions, want to talk to someone over the phone, want to talk to their friends and neighbors about what health care providers in the network and then go back and ask some questions. so we anticipated at the outset that everyone would never use the website. that needs to be part of the opportunity. the market is at the end of the day what it is. this isn't the website. it's about health care and about
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affordable plans. >> just yes or no, is there any way the individual mandate would be delayed? >> well, i don't think that that really is the question right now. the issue is will people be able to sign up for affordable health care in this six-month open enrollment period? and i think the answer is absolutely yes. if we are going to make sure that the law works, making insurance companies provide coverage to everyone without regard to preexisting conditions, you need everybody to come into the pool. you need to make sure that its people who both have a preexisting condition and those who don't. so at the end of the day, we need people to sign up, and i think we've got a lot of ways that they can. the website needs to get better. that's a focus and we will deliver on that. >> the president's legacy is part of this issue, as well. i mean, has it been tarnished but what has happened?
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>> i think that what we need to do is see the enrollment figures at the end of march of 2014. that's when open enrollment ends, and what i know from what we're seeing in not only states that are run by the federal website but states around the country is that the interest is huge. that people are eager to have this affordable product and that the product is there. insurance companies have to compete for one another for people's business for the first time. janice baker who was with the president yesterday was the first person to sign up from delaware. >> took her a few days she said. >> she said she was frustrate add few days. the great news for janice is she'll have coverage on day one, as will somebody like janice who signs up on december 15th, have coverage day one. we'll focus to keep the website working better but millions of janices around this country will save money. she's saving $150 a month.
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she has a lower deductible and she is thrilled with the notion that now is a small business owner, she didn't have to worry that she's going to be priced out of the insurance market. >> i'm anxious to see how many more januaices are out there. >> thank you. >> great to be with you. we got much more now on the political dimension and this bare knuckle battle all the way from congress to the supreme court to the campaign trail to the shutdown. you know, it was expected to be something of a victory lap from here on out. the hope was by now the controversies would be fading and benefits of accessible health care would come into view. not yet. not quite. here to talk about it, new york times columnist charles blow. welcome to the show. you both heard that interview and charles, let me start with you. >> yeah. >> i was really struck in this interview by something the president said, the president didn't know, wasn't made aware of any problems despite the fact
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that 70% of insurers that testing fail. this is the biggest domestic policy achievement. why wouldn't he know, do you think, about this? >> there is obviously some sort of management failure here. it should have been managed better. it was not managed as well as it could and you can't really necessarily hide inside the idea that it's big or complicated. you don't have to be a webmaster to be a task master. you just have to stay on top of people and make sure things work. that said, i'm just kind of blown away but how perplexed about the freak out nature on this website not working on day one or week one or two or three weeks in. it is an internet problem. america, you know, perfected the internet. we will fix an internet problem. i do not see the link between this tech issue and policy issue. we still -- i think the policy will roll out. this is the law of the land.
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related to any other factor of your life, if you buy a new car and go at the dmv, you may have to show up. the line may be out the door. you may not stay that day and come back the next day. you have to get it registered and buy into the system. >> there is big expectations here, though, charles. i hear you. that makes sense but the expectations are quite high, one of the most tech savvy white houses in history, obviously. people may have lost confidence and ross, a lot of republicans are looking for some answers and accountabili accountability. when you hear the secretary dorks you -- do you feel like you're getting answers? >> obviously we're not getting answers because administration doesn't have answers. i think one of the things that's become clear on the reporting of this including mine and charles' own newspaper is there is a real level of uncertainty even in the administration how significant the problems are and whether
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this is something that will take two weeks to fix or two months to fix or will still be a problem the new year. that's why to answer charles' question about the policy issue, the timing matters for the policy, and both supporters of the law and those of us who are shall we say shop what more skeptical about it have always pointed out one of the big risks here is precisely what you bought up with the secretary and what she herself brought up as well. the way the law is designed, you have a system that only functions if you get large numbers of healthy, middle class people who aren't getting large subsides into the pool. and so, if you don't get those people into the pool and again, there is still time -- >> plenty of time. there is plenty of time. >> there is time. but if you don't get those people into the pool, then the costs of the whole thing go up. the costs of the subsides go up. the cost to people buying insurance goes up -- >> ross -- >> wait, wait. >> you talk about this like
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buying a house this is not a two-week process. once you get the kinks worked out, maybe it takes a few hours on one day. this is not going to take somebody two or three weeks or a month to wade through this and figure out how to get enrolled. it will not take that long. the only issue now is how quickly do you work out the kwings -- >> charles. >> people who want to sign up on the website who do not want to use other avenues which does exist, ex they can use, the people that want to use the website and sign up in any other way by website can get on. that's the only issue we're talking about. when we make that into a bigger issue and that can cripple the affordable health care act because young healthy people only whose fingers worken the internet -- >> this is a number's game. the reason they set up -- you're absolutely right that, you know, people can enroll once the problems are fixed. people will be able to enroll -- >> they can enroll today, actually. they can enroll today, just not
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on the internet, not all of them on the internet. >> the issue is you need to get -- i mean, i forget exactly what the target number is but you need something like 7 million people enrolled and the hope is that you get that number enrolled in sort of a rush at the end and that happened in massachusetts and maybe it can happen here. the reason they set up -- they didn't set up this, you know, multi month open enrollment period. they set it up because thaw were concerned about getting the absolute numbers. even though you're right -- for an individual once its fixed you can get in. for the policy you need the kind of large numbers that -- >> but those -- >> six-month window to get in. >> charles, let me ask you something. the number 7 million you're right about that. charles, another thing that struck me is the idea, again, when you talk about such a big domestic policy achievement. you heard the secretary say now, three weeks into this it's time to bring in the a-team and it's sort of the idea they had
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concerned. they had problems and now we'll actually get serious about this. is that a problem, charles? i mean, does this show a level of disengagement on this big issue, and does it create a loss of confidence among people that are fence sitting on this in the first place? >> the first thing i said tonight is i think there is a figure of management. anybody who assumes that, you know, sebelius or the white house can get out without a few lumps, we could have done it better and this is not what you want and the president said if -- you know, no one is more upset about it than he is. i think that's right. i think you have to assume -- there is so many people cheering against the success of this law that they will make as much hate out on any failure that occurs, particularly an unforced error and that's what this is. that said, i do not believe that it is a long-standing injury. i do not believe that it injures the confidence of the people who really need to sign up for this and particularly the people with preexisting condition and cannot
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and have not been able to get -- >> that's precisely -- >> real quick. >> it doesn't influence the people that desperately need health insurance but for the system to work, it's the people who feel like they might not need it and looking for reason to sign up. >> who are helping pay for the system. >> right. >> stay tuned. we'll talk about this for some time to come. thanks for joining us. >> much more at cnn.com. coming up, 911 calls released from the deadly shooting on a middle school playground in nevada. we'll hear the calls and get the latest in the investigation. also ahead, the search for this little girl's real identity. the couple that allegedly abducted her in greece are calling her maria. these are giving hope to missing children. we want to talk with one of those families. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance,
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the town of sparks, nevada is trying to come to terms with the fact that a 12-year-old killed a teacher and wounded two at his middle school before taking his own life. tonight 911 recordings come out and a hero emerges. stephan stephanie elim reports. >> reporter: a picture of what happen heard monday morning when a student opened fire. the 12-year-old injured two students and killed a teacher before taking his own life. >> he brought a gun to school and shoot a teacher. >> the teacher is down? >> yes. >> okay. we'll get somebody out there right away. you're at sparks middle school? >> yes, they shot again. >> they shot again? >> yeah. >> hi, this is leah school
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police, you have sparks middle. >> we do. 911 ringing off the rook. >> the student recalls hearing allude pop he thought was a firecrack firecracker. >> i saw a teacher approach the gunman and the gunman pointed the gun towards the teacher and he fires a shot at the teacher, and then everybody started screaming and running. >> reporter: that teacher mike lans berry, a military man that served tours in afghanistan, those are calling him a hero. >> during the incident after the first student was shot, he calmly walked towards the shooter, putting his hands up in a motion to try to stop the individual's actions. mr. lansbury was fatally shot in the chest. his hero wick actions allowed time for other students on that playground area to flee the area. >> reporter: a long-time friend says the kids were his first
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priority. >> he was a soldier with us but always a teacher. he just wanted to always be there for the kids. they loved him. he would tell us stories all the time about them and as a coach, too. he did all kinds of things. we knew that he was there to protect them. >> reporter: officials have not released any information about the 12-year-old shooter. but they believe the weapon he used, a ruger .9 mile melimetere from his home. >> he was really a nice kid. he would make you smile when you were having a bad day. if you were -- he would just ask you if he could bayou something and he was just really a nice kid. i saw him getting bully aied a couple times and i think he took out his bullying on that. >> reporter: police still don't know why the boy did what he did but kyle nucom told jake tapper what he heard. >> he was yelling a bunch of
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things while we were running. >> reporter: what was he yelling? >> why are you laughing at me? why are you doing this to me. >> sometime there is is never satisfying answers to the questions. stephanie, at the parents of the young gunman, are they cooperating with police? >> reporter: sanjay, police say they are cooperating completely and grieving not only because they have lost their son because of what they have known now that their son has done. we also learn they have police protection with them in the event there is retaliation and they could also face charges if it's found out that there was any liability with this gun, once they find out exactly how the student got his hands on it, sanjay? >> thanks so much. appreciate it. just a head, a global mystery. who is this little girl and where are her real parents?
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tonight, two american parents have new hope. hope that's tied to a photograph of a little girl known as maria. authorities in greece suspect she was kidnapped. the mystery is this, who is maria and where are her real parents? t the roma couple is in custody but the case is playing into old prejudices about roma stealing
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children were it's a simple but vexing question, who exactly is this little girl? investigators found her when they were inspecting a camp of romas, historic recalled gypsy where this couple lived with as many as 14 children. they became suspicious because the little blonde hair, blue eyed girl looked nothing like the man and woman claiming to be her parents. >> bad living conditions, poor high gene. the girl was found in a state of neglect, both physically and psycholog psychologically. >> reporter: dna test confirmed plain to see, the girl known as maria is not related to these two have who have since been charged with abduction. this video was released by the roma community purportedly showing a young maria who was treated well. she was given to the couple they
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say. thousands of tips have poured in after authorities released her photo, one lead as far away as chan kansas city. lisa er win was just 11 months old when she disappeared from her home the middle of the night. the anniversaries of her disappearance was two weeks ago and a there is a photo of what she might look like today. >> she's not a baby anymore, she's a toddler and there is no such thing as a tip too small. >> reporter: could maria be baby lisa. dental records suggest maria is two or three years older but still, the fbi is investigating and the family holds out hope. >> george howell does join us live now. it is an international mystery as you point out. what happens to try to figure out if maria could in fact be baby lisa? >> reporter: it comes down to a dna test. a few minutes ago i spoke with
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the family here. it's still unclear the timing of when that will happen, though, we do know that the fbi is in touch with greek officials and trying to get answers with this, however, we've learned through greek officials that the dna of maria does not match any of the dna they have in the international database. so that's one thing and also from the state department, we're hearing today they have no indication this could be an american citizen, sanjay, though, they are not ruling out hope. >> i imagine dna evidence will be the crux of this but authorities honing in on another case of a child living with a roma or gypsy family but this one is in ireland. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: right. we learned about that today. this happened monday in dub land, another blonde girl, 7 years old this time taken from another roma family and we learned from tv 3 the family has not been arrested and we also
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understand they tried to provide birth certification, however, officials, they say that wasn't enough and sanjay, they are pushing for yet, another dna test to get some answers on this. >> right, right. again that seems to be the key here. george howell thanks for that reporting. again, i want to show you the age progressed image on the left showing what lisa might look like today and you can see there is definitely a resemblance to maria. so i spoke to lisa's parents, debra bradley and jeremier win. debra, when you first heard about this little girl maria, what was your reaction? did you immediately think this could be your daughter, lisa? >> the question came into my mind but it wasn't until i came home friday evening and i started comparing pictures of her and lisa and doing comparison pictures and pictures of lisa right before she was kidnapped compared to little maria's picture and then that's
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when i started to think this really could be lisa. >> i just can't imagine what is going through your mind as you're doing this research. jeremy, you looked at this age progression photo of your daughter next to that picture of maria. did you see a similarity? do you think maria looks like your daughter? >> i think that there's an obvious similarity. i think that it's close enough to certainly fully investigate. i think that's what everybody is doing. obviously we -- you know, we want answers and i'm sure everybody else does, too, and even if it's not lisa, it -- you know, we'll still hopefully find where she belongs. >> i understand the authorities are looking into this possibility that this little girl is your daughter. what are you hearing from the authorities, debra? >> nothing as of right now
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except for that they have handed everything over to overseas fbi and that some missing person organizations in different countries in europe have been in contact with us and they said they will push everything to the best of their ability on their end for lisa. >> you were questioned, as well, i should point out by police after your daughter went missing. you were questioned. what's the status of that investigation now? >> right now our focus is, you know, not on the past or anything, that happened or what they originally thought. our focus is finding lisa. our search for lisa and that's where it's going to stay. >> as part of that search, jeremy, kansas city police say the number of leads specifically in your daughter's disappearance dropped to about one a week. are you hopeful that this increase media attention could lead to more leads and more credible leads? >> yeah, i mean, we -- that's what we hope for every time we try to get lisa's picture on tv.
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we just -- we still need everybody's help. we still need quality tips, and we do feel that everybody's doing a really great job at keeping their eyes open. the worldwide response directly to us from complete strangers has been a blessing for lisa. so -- >> it's really showing we're not alone. we're not alone in our search for lisa. there have been -- everything from her comments on her website at find lisaer win.com to her e-mail and facebook page from so many people from all around the world and it's -- we're in awe at the amount of compassion and care and the fact that there are so many people that are looking for her right along with us. >> look at those pictures and
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you just can't take your eyes off her. i wish you both to be strong. i know this is a tough period. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up, a young girl who says she was raped at 14 and then essentially run out of town. that case is now getting a second look. we'll get the details next. -- captions by vitac -- erican dream is of a better future, a confident retirement. ♪ like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach. ♪
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in crime and punishment tonight a special prosecutor is appoint in a controversial case in maryville, missouri. a vigil is being held for the victim. many strangers coming out for support after young girl named daisy. she was 14 and said she was raped by then 17-year-old matthew barnett. the prosecutors dropped changes. daisy and her mother said the alleged rapist is well-connected and the townspeople ran them out of the area. the case is being revisited. >> reporter: the national media descending on mareville, first physical gathering for protesters after social media driven by anonymous under the hash tag justice for daisy. >> this is a grass roots effort and there are people working to find some solution and someway
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to help and that makes a difference. >> reporter: protesters are energized now that the teen rape case is being reopened. national pressure led to the appointment of a prosecutor who promised local politics and connections would play no part in the new investigation. >> our review of this case will be without fear and without favor. >> reporter: keywords for daisy coleman, just 14 years old when she and a 13-year-old friend say they were raped by two high schoolboys after a night of drinking. >> yes, there was, i believe, a crime that occurred. >> reporter: the sheriff arrested the accused boys but local prosecutor robert rice dropped the charges. why? he said daisy and her mother refused to testify in court. they say that's a lie. they believe the real reason, one of the accused, matt barnett, his grandfather is a state representative. special prosecutor announced, what is your reaction?
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>> i think it great. i think this may be the one thing that gets the truth out. >> reporter: after it does, this missouri town of 12,000 will do it's job of asking tough questions. >> after this process is complete and media attention dies down we'll have to work together as a community to increase awareness in the community about events and how young people treat each other. >> that's an amazing story. you were at the vigil tonight, members of daisy's family there. they have been run out of town essentially. what is the reaction to how the community is now responding to this? >> reporter: i was standing next tod daisy's grandmother and cousin and people that drove from five other states chant justice for daisies and holding up waving daisies in the air. they started to cry because they
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get live squawks right nwww.vitac.com platform >> there is a lot more happening tonight. gary tuchman has more. a utah doctor accused of murdering his wife by drowning her in the bathtub. they described his behavior has hysterical but not suspicious. the family of a georgia teen asked the judge to approve a core necessary's kd digs. they believe he was the victim of foul play, not an accident. in florida the two mistakenly released murders are back in orange county jail. joseph jenkins and charles walker were recaptured sat night. bogus court papers led to the release. they know five other times congress forged documents to shave time off sentences. unbelievable. >> thanks so much. we need happier news, gary, maybe you can work on that.
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unfortunately, no time for that tonight. piers morgan live sorts now. sanjay, not so fast mr. bond, it was a news exclusive s. i watched with interest. a lot believe kathleen sebelius should resign or be fired. to me, a fascinating exchange when you asked her about the supposed a team she said was working on obama care and promptly you asked why weren't they there to start with? tell me about that. >> yeah, it was extraordinary. what happens now? it's been three weeks and obviously there is not just kinks or glitches with the system so i wanted to say what is your plan? she said now we'll bring in the a team to try and fix this and i said the a team should have been here way prior to october 1st. so that was a pretty interesting exchange, and again, she really does tk
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