thank you for watching "new day." have a great day. before you start it, you have to get with carol costello in "the newsroom." thank you, have a great weekend. >> thank you, chris, kate, thank you. who is that over there, john berman, thanks so much. i have a tiny, little monitor. have a great weekend. >> josh berman. >> thanks, carol. >> see you later. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now in "the newsroom," breaking overnight, state fair tragedy. >> they told me that the ride had stopped and they were fixing to off-load when the ride started off again. >> reporter: five people rushed to the hospital, some victims as young as 14. plus, back to school, danvers doors reopened.

>> i don't know why someone would do this to someone so nice. >> reporter: a massachusetts town searching for answers after the unthinkable. >> you ever talk about concern with one of her students, anything like that? >> never, never once. >> reporter: this morning, brand new details as a community remembers colleen ritzer. under fire and on the road. >> it's a new day for people looking for health security for themselves and their families. >> reporter: the woman behind the fledgling obama care website with the new message for her critics. >> the majority of people calling for me to resign i would say are people who i don't work for. >> reporter: and footloose 2.0. ♪ footloose >> reporter: two high schools say no to dirty dancing, a contract students must sign not to twerk. you're live in the "cnn newsroom."

good morning to you. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. this morning in a florida courtroom a case that wrapped up for a 12-year-old accused of bullying a classmate to death. 12-year-old rebecca sedgwick committed suicide after being hounded by endless talks on her cell phone and social media. minutes ago one of her accused tormenters in court. ed lavandera is outside the courthouse in barto, florida. good morning, ed. >> reporter: good morning, ca l carol. 12-year-old kaitlin roman appeared with her attorney jose baez, he was the attorney that represented casey anthony here in florida, in this high-profile trial but jose baez says in this case it is his client that is now being bullied by the juvenile legal system here in florida.

14-year-old and 12-year-old say they're not guilty of bullying. >> my daughter is not that type of person that would do something like that. >> reporter: investigators in lakeland, florida, say both girls tormented sedgwick or months in social media posts with messages like "i hate you, you seriously deserve to die" and "why don't you go kill yourself." her mother says the taunting started over a boy and involved as many as 20 students harassing young rebecca. in september, 12-year-old rebecca sedgwick couldn't take it anymore. they climbed to the top of this cement silo and jumped. >> i just don't understand how anyone could be cruel to another human being like that. it just -- it makes me sick and it just, like i said earlier, i'm more upset with the parents than the kids because they had

to learn this behavior somewhere. this is how they're being taught to be. >> reporter: but the nasty social media messages didn't stop after sedwick's death. few weeks later this appeared on guadalupe's shaw's facebook page. "yes i bullied rebecca and she killed herself but i don't give a blank." they say their daughter didn't write the incriminating post and suspects someone hacks her account. >> the only other thing she could have used this message was my cell phone and it is always with me. >> reporter: after that interview with cnn vivian vosberg who helped raise guadalupe was related on child abuse and neglect charges. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: investigators discovered a facebook video allegedly showing vosburg punching and screaming at two young boys. she's still in jail and has not posted bond. meanwhile rebecca sebwick's mother hired a team of lawyers

preparing to file civil wrongful death lawsuits against all the students who taunted rebecca, their parents and the school district which she says knew about the abuse and didn't do enough to stop it. >> i think the parents of the bullies failed and i think the school failed because they didn't take it seriously when becca kept telling them -- i went down there myself and showed them stuff posted on facebook by these girls. >> reporter: guadalupe shaw is still being held in jail and the 12-year-old in court today has been released but assigned to home confinement but she got permission from the judge this morning to walk outside of her house and at least walk around in her yard and her lawyer is also trying to get her some sort of tutoring so she can continue to do that, because she is suspended from school. the judge is concerned how she will be monitored if at any point she's using the computer for that.

the parents say she must be aware when she's using the computer and monitored around the clock. >> if the girls are convicted, what could their punishment be? >> reporter: well that will be interesting to see, the juvenile process here in florida will take some time, there's is imin place where they will be able to get guidance from the juvenile system and a lot of that will depend on what that outside prison says and advises to the court in this case. there are a lot of layers that have to take place and steps that have to take place before we get a full understanding of what punishment they'll face. >> ed lavandera this morning. crews are starting to demolish sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut, where a gunman killed 20 children and 6 adults. they are worried scavenger also try to keep pieces of the school

as souvenirs or sell the memorabilia online, so worker also destroy all pieces of the school and security is very tight this morning. the city plans to build a brand new school at this very same location. classes are resuming this morning at a danvers high school in massachusetts, three days after a teacher was brutally killed on campus but the bathroom where a 14-year-old student allegedly punched then slashed colleen ritzer with a box cutter remains closed. it's a crime scene. cnn's pamela brown is outside the school this morning. good morning, pamela. >> reporter: good morning to you, carol. classes resumed here at danvers high school at 7:25 eastern time. we're told only the main entrance was open. there were extra police officers on hand today to help the students and faculty feel safe and also we've been told that ritzer's classroom, colleen ritzer's classroom will be open today. there will be classes held there, as you can imagine, this is a very tough day for the student body, speaking with

students,er this coming here with heavy hearts today, it's the first time they are returning to school since colleen ritzer was murdered on tuesday, allegedly at the hands of one of her own students, 14-year-old philip chism. still many unanswered questions here today. we spoke to students who say they're remembering colleen ritzer in different ways, one student, colin butler, says he's paying tribute in his own way. listen to what he said. >> it's a little bit, you know, a little bit nerve-racking but danvers is a strong community so i think we'll pull through. >> reporter: what's going through your mind today as you return? i could imagine it feels different coming back to school today. >> yeah, pretty much just shock, you know. just trying to return to some sense of normalcy, you know. >> reporter: did you know miss ritzer? >> yes, i had her in class for a little bit. she was a real nice teacher. i think we all loved her. >> reporter: how are you paying

tribute to her? >> well i'm wearing a pink tie right now, that was her favorite color, and then at our game we're going to wear pink tape. >> reporter: gone but certainly not forgotten. her presence is being felt here today, carol. one of her inspirational quotes is posted on the school's welcome sign and it says, "no matter what happens in life, be good to people. bei " being good to people is a wonderful legacy to leave behind. we're expecting new details next hour about a frightening incident at the north carolina state fair. it was the vortex ride, they were getting off the ride when it suddenly started moving. according to wncn one person has serious head injuries and another is seriously hurt. the ride operator is among the injured. >> it just sounded like a bunch of stuff hitting metal and that

was it. and then there was no screaming. i didn't hear any screaming and nothing out of the normal on that end, but then all of a sudden we had all of the ambulance and state trooper acsia activity after that. >> fair rides are inspected up to three times a day, a spokeswoman said. still to come what started as a congressional hearing into the malfunctioning obama website turned into political theeter. >> no, i will not yield to this monkey court or whatever this thing is. >> this is not a monkey court. >> and that had nothing to do with the website's problems. find out what caused the uproar, next. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights.

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checking our top stories at 13 minutes past the hour, a gunman is now in custody after a tense standoff with police in north carolina. police responded to an armed robbery at a drugstore in belmont. the suspect fired several shots at officers. he later released the hostages and surrendered. luckily no one was hurt. anger over claims of u.s. spying on its allies is front and center again at a meeting of european union leaders in brussels. the german chancellor angela merkel say the allegations have severely shaken diplomatic relations. her krcell phone was reportedly monitored by the u.s. an op-ed said it is under review. the ceo of a key obama care contractor has quit his job, that's according to reuters. another circo representative was

on capitol hill defending his company's role in sec.ical problems with the website. there in britain it is accused of charging the government millions of dollars for tracking criminals who were dead or behind bars. what did we learn after hours of congressional testimony on the obama care exchanges? in a nutshell everyone is to blame. although the contractors of healthcare.gov absolved themselves of blame and pointed the finger at the federal government. they said they did not officially test the site until two weeks before it went public and the government wouldn't delay the launch despite concerns. the contractors did not accept any responsibility and instead pointed fingers at the medicare agency, cms which oversaw the whole project. of course the hearing wasn't without political theater. republicans intimated the site violates hipaa after seeing this

slide hidden in computer code saying "you have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication or data transiting on this system." well, the mere suggestion outraged democrat frank pallone. >> information is required in the application process and why is that? because preexisting conditions don't matter. so once again here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everyone. >> will the gentleman yield? >> no i will not yield to this monkey court or whatever this is. >> this not a monkey court. >> think whatever you want. i am not yielding. i am trying to tell you that the problem here -- >> protecting american citiz citizens -- >> no preexisting conditions, the preexisting conditions don't matter, i had ta pa doesn't matter, no health information in the process, you're asked your address and not health information so why are we going down this path because you are trying to scare people so they don't apply? >> joining us now is republican

congressman marsha blackburn from tennessee. good morning, congresswoman. >> good morning, carol, thank you. >> thanks so much for joining me. >> sure. >> cnn has looked into the medical privacy question and found the website does not violate hipaa, the only health related question is do you smoke. so what specifically were you referring to on the website that violates, that could possibly violate hipaa? >> we are concerned about privacy overall. data security privacy and of course applying and complying with the hipaa laws, and -- >> but what question specifically asks that would concern you about hipaa, what medical question does it ask? >> carol, hipaa requires you to -- it's the way you structure your website and the way you transit the information, the transfer rights that are there, and when you look at privacy on

these websites, what you have to do is keep all of the application information in one server and then you have to, whether it is a physical serve aserver or a cloud server and you have to make certain you have the patient data information in another. you have to be certain that any of the information concerning disease or condition or pertinent to the individual is separate. all of our hospitals -- >> but there nor questions that are asked concerning any disease or health condition. the only health related question asked is do you smoke. hipaa has to do with medical records, right, but it's not asking for medical records or medical information. >> it also has to do with the way you transit all of this information and what we want to do is to make certain that each of these agencies, it is

important enough that each of the contractors said they had been through some hipaa training. what we wanted to do in the interests of privacy of our constituents is make certain as they build this data hub that will contain your medical as well as your financial information and as this is shared with the different agencies with the insurance companies that are going to be -- >> but what specific information does the website ask for and specifically what private information that the government doesn't already have does the website ask for? >> well we want to make certain that the individual has a right to privacy, and as you heard in what was revealed yesterday, in the privacy notice that is down in the coding, an individual is not given that right to privacy. so not only are we looking at hipaa, we are looking at privacy.

we are looking at how the companies handle this information. serco said they had 2,000 individuals -- >> i'm trying to understand what kind of information you're talking about. what kind of information are you talking about? what specifically does the website ask that i might be afraid might be shared with whomever? specifically. what information? >> you should be very concerned not only as you navigate the website but as you make a purchase, and then as your information is handled, what we want to make certain is that an individual's medical information their financial information is all going to be kept in a private manner. what meem do not want is a peeping tom who is going to look through their pii, their personal identifying information. they want to make certain the federal government has standards and are applying and abiding by

the privacy laws that are on the books and by the hipaa regulations that every hospital and every doctor abide by. so this is a serious investigation, looking at the entire roll-out and launch of this website, how this data is being used. you know, carol it is interesting yesterday -- >> i understand you're concerned about hacking into the site because that is a real concern because it's not working right now. >> a and as far as specific information i'm not clear on what the website asks you that would violate hipaa. >> as individuals navigate the website and work through finding a product, as they make a purchase and as they have their information that is going to, as it's going to be data mined, if you will, what you have to make certain is that information is separated from patients and individuals, and that it is going to be anonymized and

individuals have an expectation and a right of privacy that the federal government is going to abide by that. now, when you have a company that is utilizing as many as 80 or 100 different servers, whether they're physical or they're cloud servers, you have to make certain that the encryption is there, that individuals who are setting up accounts have set passwords, that those passwords are being changed within every 90 days, all of this is hipaa health care compliance. >> okay. >> it is the customer's expectation of that privacy. if these individuals are not engineering those websites with these protections, with these encryptions, if they are not making certain that people do not have physical access to those websites, and the information held in them, then they're not going to be compliant with federal law. >> okay. >> and we want to make certain

that they are going to be compliant. >> i understand, i do. i just, again, the only health related question this website asks is do you smoke, but i hear what you're saying. >> i think there are other questions that are there. there are other questions that are there. >> not health related. congressman blackburn, thank you. thank you so much. >> thank you, carol. >> thank you for joining me this morning. still to come, brett favre showed no fear taking hard hits in the nfl. now retired he's a little scared. he admits he has memory loss now. rachel nichols is following this story. good morning. >> good morning, carol. i was on the sideline for a lot of the hits that brett favre took over his career and i'll be back to tell you about the effects he and other nfl players are feeling, now that they're retired. it's a growing trend in business: do more with less with less energy. hp is helping ups do just that. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy.

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brett favre started 321 straight games as an nfl quarterback, often playing

through pain or worse, hobbled by injury and now three years retired from being crushed by 300-pound linemen favre is talking about fear that, would be the fear of his memory. he's losing his memory. he talked with washington sportstalk 570 radio about not being able to remember one of his daughter's soccer seasons. >> i don't remember my daughter playing soccer, youth soccer one summer. i don't remember that. i got a pretty good memory and i have a tendency like probably we all do, where is my glasses and they're on your head. this was a little shocking to me. >> he's only 44 years old. rachel nichols joins us live from new york. this is scary. >> absolutely. it's terrifying for guys like brett, and as you pointed out he was the nfl's ironman, more than 300 straight games, that mentality, slap a band-aid on it, get back out on the field.

that was an attitude he was praised for again and again, a guy that knows the value of hard work and willing to get it done. that attitude now is something that he's realizing along with a lot of other former players, maybe the thing that costs him later in his life, some of his memories, some of his physical abilities, and that is a scary thing for these guys, and it's something that is really causing some reckoning both around the league and around the fan base, too, if you're like me, i love nfl football. i love watching football, but you can't ignore the fact that the guys who are playing it are having tougher and tougher repercussions, getting more and more hurt and the effects later in life are really frightening. >> and maybe that brett favre is saying this it will send a message to yuoung players who ignore the warnings who still want to play as rough as they can. >> absolutely and it's one more argument to take a closer look at the game, see if there are ways to cut down the violence to the head. they've already changed the way players should hit on the field,

whether they could lead with their helmets, so some of the technical changes to the game, some of the attitude teams have about sitting players with concussions and as you say some of the attitudes players themselves have to have. in the end sometimes it is on you. you have to say as a younger player, coach, i can't go today, and it's tough for a guy trying to prove himself but the cost down the road may be too much to bear not to do it. >> thanks, rachel. i know you have a busy day ahead, i'll ask all of our viewers to watch the premiere of "unguarded with rachel nichols" airs tonight 10:30 eastern on cnn and i know you have an exclusive interview with king james. "unguarded" 10:30 p.m. eastern tonight. thanks, rachel. >> thanks so much. >> you're welcome. still to come, somebody's always listening, aren't they? a lesson you think george w. bush's national security agency chief would have learned a long time ago but just got a refresher course on a train. we'll explain, next. ♪

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coming up in "the newsroom" the tables have turved, a super secret conversation on a train tweeted live by another passenger, definitely was not the quiet car. plus the pepper spray cop from uc davis, you will not believe how much money he's getting in workers comp.. hint, way more than the students he sprayed are getting. and cards sox evened up as the series heads to st. louis. newsroom continues now. good morning. i'm carol costello, thank you so much for joining us. sometimes you just can't help eav eavesdropping, right? a former political strategist found himself within earshot of a curious conversation on a

recent train ride of washington, d.c. he heard michael hayden apparently talking to a reporter on his cell phone so he started tweeting what he heard and no surprise his tweets went viral. cnn's brian todd is in washington covering this story. good morning. >> good morning, carol. the irony of course the director of the nsa, the former director of the nsa which specializes in listening in on people was listened to himself. now whether he was eeavesdroppe on was another question. tom matsy he said mr. hayden was what he termed "that loud guy on the train everyone hears on occasion." here are some of the tweets issued after hearing michael hayden speaking to reporters on the form, we'll read a couple. "former nsa spy boss michael hayden on acela behind me blabbing "on background as a former senior admim official

sounds defensive." hayden was bragging about rendition and black sites a minute ago. phone ringing, i think the jig is up. maybe somebody is telling him i'm here. do i hide? mr. hayden apparently did speak with tom matzzie and posed for a picture with him. there is a picture and another tweet from tom matzzie, me and steeler fan mike hayden. given their friend lira pore later on i spoke to tom matzzie on the the phone and he was unrepentant. he thought that mr. hayden was undignified in doing what he did, that it was inappropriate for him to speak i guess on background reporters the way he did. he said he thought that hayden was trading on all the credibility that he built up over the years to bash the president of the united states because according to tom matzzie was hayden was offering criticism of the obama administration i believe for the

nsa spying scandal and other things. i know michael hayden pushed back on that a little bit. when i asked tom matzzie as a former d.c. director of the group moveon.org, which is a left leaning group that started up in the clinton administration, i asked him flat out, you might abkube accused o political leanings. he said "i am a democrat and everything's political, let's be honest here." he didn't hide the fact he didn't terribly like too much what michael hayden was saying. >> interesting. you know sometimes you don't realize how loudly you're talking on the cell phones. you've been on the acela and all the businesspeople talk really loud and you hear their whole business. >> it's another lesson when you're in public and doing something like that, you're never really alone. you have to be careful. >> that's right. brian todd, thanks so much. hayden did issue this statement to cnn, he said, had a nice chat with my fellow pittsburgher, not sure what he thinks bashing the administration means. i didn't criticize the

president. i actually said these are very difficult issues. i said i had political guidance, too, that limited the things that i did when i was director of the nsa. now that political guidance is going to be more robust. it wasn't a criticism." still to come in "the newsroom," the debate over halloween costumes? when do they cross the line from funny to offensive? come on, a cowboy outfit is offensive? we'll talk about that next. [ female announcer ] we take away your stuffy nose.

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footloose ♪ ♪ kick off your sunday shoes > ♪ please, louise, throw me off of my knees ♪ oh the '80s, such an innocent time when there was dangerous dancing we had to look out for. seems to be a brand new danger, ever more dangerous, lurking on the dance floor of high schools across the country, of course we're talking about twerking. that's right, the hip thrusting dance or whatever you call it brought into unsuspected living rooms across the country by miley cyrus during the mtv video music awards is being banned at school dances across the country example in thurston county, washington. some schools are having students and parents sign a no twerking contract in order to attend a homecoming dance. some students, though, don't seem to mind. >> i was okay with it. i understood why. >> it's one of the things like at school you have to get a permission slip to watch a movie in class or something along

those lines, one of those things i guess. >> okay so if you violate the contract they'll throw you out of the dance. so be warned, students, across the country, no twerking or grinding or other such things on the dance floor at homecoming. let's talk about halloween. it's just around the corner and comes, with it comes costumes that sometimes cross the line to funny to downright offensive, most notably we think about someone dressing up in black face. some say it goes beyond that, some see dressing up in a kimono as a slam against asians or dressing up as the stereo typical redneck with a gut hanging out and bottle of lick in your hand crosses the line, too. group at ohio university said students teaching about race in society or s.t.a.r.s., teaching we are a culture, not a costume. jocelyn smith joins us from

ohio. >> hi. >> what prompted you to start the group or the organizers to start this group? >> well, actually in 2010 on campus, a lot of s.t.a.r.s. members started hearing about a few race-themed parties, so in order to gain access to these parties you had to dress as a black person or as a mexican person, and obviously there was controversy. many people were outraged by this, and there were three parties on campus, so after two other incidents, s.t.a.r.s. decided to speak up and invented our poster campaign. >> so i think everybody can understand why that might be offensive. it is offensive, right? but how far are you going? we have heard that dressing up as a cowboy might be offensive. is that true? >> me personally i don't take offense to it but we're talking about a more -- our definition of offensive is misconstrued

conceptions of a certain culture for race. when you marginalize a culture it really sets us back is what we're trying to say. it's offensive. >> so how are other students on campus, are they taking your advice? are they listening? >> well, i think we're spreading a lot of awareness. i definitely do think so. we definitely do have some negative feedback but i think we have much more positive feedback. i think we're speaking up for a lot of students who don't feel they have a voice. >> because i know ohio university is known for its big halloween bash, lots of students participate, lots of students dress up so what do you guys do to educate students? do you go to the parties and say hey, that's not right? what do you do? >>. >> well question sides our poster campaign we go to classrooms and have diversity trainings and our motto or theme

is each one teach one, so we try to just as yourself take out your message and just say hey, why do you think that's funny, why do you think that dressing up as this type of person is going to be funny. do you see what you're doing there? it's kind of what we're trying to do. >> gotcha, joshelyn smith thank you for joining me this morning. >> no problem. >> thanks. coming up in "the newsroom," all new in the next hour, old secrets and new details in the murder of jonbenet ramsey, we'll look at the grand jury documents about to be released for the first time, minutes from now.

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checking our top stories at 49 minutes past the hour the former uc davis police officer known as the pepper spray cop has been awarded more than $38,000 in workers compensation, that's $8,000 more than the protesters he sprayed were awarded within their lawsuit. john pike lost his job after spraying the occupied protesters in 2011. judge ruled the university must compensate him for the depression and anxiety he suffered after he became an internet sensation. the food and drug administration wants tighter restrictions on some of the most commonly prescribed pain killer, including reclassifying several drugs and limiting refills and patients would have to see their doctors more often.

the agency is pushing for change saying it has become increasingly concerned about the abuse and misuse of such drugs. in money news, twitter is seeing its initial public offering price of 17 to 20 bucks a share, cheaper than what some analysts expected. twitter plans to sell 70 million shares and next week executive also go on tour to pitch the offering to investors. twitter is expected to make its debut still to come in the "newsroom," on this st. louis, the cardinals head home after beating boston and tying up the series. we'll be right back.

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we have major new developments in the story of maria. she's the little girl found in a roma camp in greece earlier this week. the frechlg news agency reports

that dna tests confirm that her real parents are a mow ma couple from bulgaria. the man and woman who had claimed she was theirs are accused of abducting her but say her real family actually gave her away. in the meantime, in ireland, two similar cases. there was out rage after authorities removed two blond children from a roma family, only to return them after dna testing. >> reporter: i had a chance to speak to the father of the 2-year-old boy. he described to me how the police showed up on his doorstep to take away his little boy. the boy has blond hair and blue eyes. he does look different to his parents. he described to me how he's now home safe and sound. but he talked to me about how his family will never be the same. it started with a knock on the

door. on a rundown street in the irish town, two police officers were asking questions about this man's little boy. >> i bring in the basket. you know. he said, i not believe this. i said, how you can't believe this? >> reporter: he's asked that his face not be shown to protect his family. a family devastated when his son was taken away. he believes police suspicions over the child's blond hair were more convincing than the legal document showing them that the child was his. >> i said. take my blood. take my test. what you want. but leave my son home. >> reporter: were you scared? >> yeah, i was scared. my girlfriend as crying. me as well was sad. he tell me -- >> reporter: so he called some of the only irish people he knows. the health workers who check on

his family. he was able to reach them the morning after his son was taken and he says the boy was released on their word. >> i at a thank you very much to the girls who helped me. >> reporter: his ordeal wasn't an isolated case. >> we don't want it to happen to -- for every -- from all the world. >> reporter: just the day before, a 7-year-old girl was taken away from her roma family. she, too, was fair-haired. they had to wait for dna tests to get their girl back from the state. >> we're very happy that the test is done and it is positive. >> reporter: did you feel you were treated unfairly because euro ma? >> i don't know. i don't know that. yeah, this is illegal what you're doing. >> reporter: but the police said in a statement that in all cases the goal is to protect the welfare of the child the irish

prime minister says there will be a full review. for this man and his family, the damage is done. >> my son is picked up. he's crying every time. he says, daddy where are you? mom, where are you? >> reporter: he's not the same? >> no. me as well. my gir frenld and family as well. >> reporter: in ireland questions persists as to whether these roma families were unfairly targeted. >> thank you. checking some other top stories at 57 minutes past. the a gunman in custody after an intense standoff in north carolina. police responded to a reported armed robbery. the suspect fired shots and held hostages. he alert release looesed them and no one has hurt. >> crishris highman has quit. he has been in the hot seat in

britain. he's accused of charging the government millions of dollars who track criminals who were dead or already behind bars. let's talk sports. we're up in "bleacher report." >> reporter: game one, tv the cardinals who made all the mistakes. but last night in game two, the red sox were the ones with the costly blunders. the cardinals young stud is undefeated this season. his only mistake was the two-run home run he gave up in the sixth inning. but in the seventh inning the red sox committed two errors on the same play. and that gave the cardinals to lead and they went on to win the game. turn on bleacher report.com. today is a awful day that tampa is having. they're poking of the team with

bags over their heads a the game. they lost this time 33-13. they are now a league worst 0-7 this season. this is one of the most touching touchdowns you'll ever see. this boy was born with club feet and unable to speak. his dream was to score a touchdown over their big team rival. and this week both teams got together to make that dream come true. >> i told them, hey, you got to go. don't go down, you get all the way to the end zone. >> when things like this come out of the tough times, it makes it easier to get through them because you see the light at the end of the tunnel. >> reporter: he scored a 40-yard touchdown. he spiked the ball. he was so excited he forgot to do the happy dance in the end

zone. >> the next hour of cnn "newsroom" begins right now. happening now in the "newsroom," new documents released any moment now on the jonbenet ramsey murder case. we may finally learn why prosecutors never charged her parents. also, killing hundreds of suspected enemies of war without stepping onto the battle field. >> i ended a human life. how is anyone supposed to deal with that? >> one man opens up on his chilling secret past as a drone pilot. plus, get ready for an adventure. up close and personal with, killer whales. and three weeks and counting. from delayed phone calls to obama care website problems. one woman's nightmare to get health insurance. we'll have a live update. second hour of "newsroom" starts now. good morning. i'm carol costello.

thank you for joining me. it was a case that rifted and repulsed the nation. the murders of 6-year-old jonbenet ramsey. she vanished from her bedroom during the night and found beaten and strangled in the basement of her own home. now we may finally learn details from court documents that are about to be bubble. we're standing by in boulder, colorado for the document release. >> reporter: these documents are said to be from the 1999 grand jury ruling in this case, in the murder of jonbenet ramsey. now a judge ruling just this week to unseal these documents saying any official action of a state grand jury needs to be made public, even if it is 14 years later. we expect to see 18 different pages, said to be the indictment of john and patsy ramsey in their daughter's murder. nine on each.

now, they might not change anything about the investigation, but they could provide new clues into what happened. a new twist in the cold case that first captivated the country nearly two decades ago. 9 gruesome murder of 6-year-old jonbenet ramsey. she was found dead in the basement of her home in 1996. a killer never captured. now, more information has surfaced. >> we're obviously very happy that the judge has agreed with us that the grand jury indictment should be a public document. >> reporter: a judge now agreeing to unseal a grand jury indictment from 1999 after a request from a reporter. the newspaper learning earlier this year that the grand jury in 1999 this voted to indict jonbenet's parents, john and patsy ramsey, on charges of child abuse resulting in death. but the boulder district attorney at the time decided there was not sufficient

evidence to file charges. even so, a cloud of suspicion remained. >> there has always been the dispute, was this an inside job by the ramseys or was there an outside intruder? it appears that the goulder grand jury believes it was done by the ramseys. that's quite a revelation. >> we think it was a pedophile. we think it was a male. >> reporter: from the beginning, they claimed an intruder killed their daughter. and ultimately the family was cleared in 2008 after dna technology proved that someone unrelated had to have been the killer. pat zi ramsey did not live to see that day. >> reputation is a very fragile thing. once that is taken away, rightly or wrongly, it's very difficult if for the impossible to get that back. >> reporter: last week a lawyer for john ramsey requested that the documents remain sealed.

saying, public release of the allegations of an -- >> the death of a child is tough. and particularly when it's an willful act of nor human being who caused it. >> reporter: still, the mystery remains. we did reach out to john ramsey and the current d.a.'s, now know one is commenting. as soon as we get our hands on the documents, we'll go throh them and let you know what details we might learn. keep in mind, these documents are from 1999 when the grand jury had a look at the evidence before them. they heard from dozens of witnesses. but did not have the crucial dna evidence because the testing technology had not been developed to the extent that it later did, ultimately clearing john and pat zi zi as well as

their son from any involvement in this case. again, the documents waiting. i'm just actually getting this ipad message from our producer here next to me. the documents have just been released as we speak. we're going to need a minute to go through these and follow up with them in a minute. >> thank you for that. classes resuming this morning at danvers high school in massachusetts, three days after a teacher was killed on campus. but the bathroom where a 14-year-old student allegedly punched and cut her with a box cutter, remains closed. students expressed their feelings about going back to school today. >> it's a little bit nerve racking. but i think we'll pull through. >> reporter: what's going through your mind? >> pretty much just shock, you

know. trying to return to some sense of normalsy. >> we're learning more, also, about the investigation. the source says the 14-year-old suspect, phillip chism, followed colleen ritzer into a girl's bathroom. they say he "star tribune"ed her body in a recycling bin and then dumped it in the woods after school. if indicted for first or second-degree murder, he will be tried as an adult. we are expecting new details about a frightening incident at the north carolina state fair. five people thrown from a ride and knocked unconscious. they were getting off the vortex when it started moving. one person has serious head injuries and another seriously hurt. the ride operator mon among the injured. >> just sounded like a bunch of stuff hitting metal and that was it. and then there was no screaming. i didn't hear any screaming. and nothing out of the normal on

that end. but then all the sudden we had all of the ambulance and state trooper activity after that. >> a north carolina state spokeswoman says fair rides are inspected three times a day. at 6 minutes past, the state department is -- the ship's captain and chief engineer were kidnapped from the oil supply vessel off the coast of nigh gearia. their condition not known. more than 130 crews members have been abducted so far this year in the oil rich area off west africa. kathleen sebelius makes another stop on had obama care road show. she's in austin, texas, this morning to promote the president's affordable health care act. she's likely to face a tough audience. texas is home to ted cruz. the food & drug administration wants tighter restrictions on painkillers.

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one of the most controversial parts of the government's war on terror, drone targets. cnn sat down for an exclusive interview with a former drone pilot who is speaking out in order to raise awareness about what he and his colleagues went through. >> we were consistently told when i was going through training that our job was to kill people and break things. and that's like one of those mantras that people say to get themselves to be ready to do sufficient -- stuff like that. and i don't think i could have ever been ready. i wasn't prepared. and it's largely my fault, but it's also the fault of the people that initiated the training. it was more -- the training was more imaginary than real.

>> that imaginary training didn't help him handle the realize of the battle field. listen what he told them what it was like as he realized, as i said, he killed a child. >> i just ended a human life. you know. how is anyone supposed to deal with that. we were told to shut up and color. and he with couldn't talk to a psychologist and couldn't do this. if we talked to anyone, we would lose our clearance. it affects a lot of people. and it would have been a lot better for us if we would have been able to sit down and talk with someone to rationalize what had happened. >> reporter: where are you speaking up now? >> because i feel like the other drone operators, they get a bad wrap. and they need someone to talk how it's not a video game, how it is real life. and these people need just as much help, a huge mental health issue here that no one wants to

seem to address. and it needs to be addressed. and these people need help and guidance and they need to be shown that they're actual legitimate people. they're not just an unmanned drone flying in the sky above them. and these are human beings. they're affected by this just as much as people on the ground. >> for more of brian's story, you can head to cnn.com. checking other stories, 12-year-old kaitlyn roman appeared in court. she's one of two minors accused 6 bullying rebecca sedgwick to death. she's facing charges of felony stalking. power companies in northeast ohio trying to get the lights back on for thousands of people. the first snowfall wreaked havoc. more snow expected to fall

throughout the morning. the world series is knotted up at one game apiece. the st. louis cardinals scored three and then went on to beat the red sox 4-2. >> history was made thursday night as a majority female crew for referees as ncaa football game. >> everyone is used to us. the coaches know we're out there. i'm just another person out there officiating. >> the headlinesman off the game got a little closer to the action. good for her. last night cnn brought you to the documentary "blackfish," which takes a look at sea world and its treatment of killer whales used in performances. "blackfish" takes a history of the look of killer whales helped in captivity ahead of an incident in which a trainer was killed. the cnn team had the chance to

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she said others shared her out rage at the eu summit which wraps up today. >> i think it's to find a basis for the future. and trust needs to be rebuilt. that implies that the trust has been severely chshaken. >> we have more on the growing out rage against the united states. >> reporter: german chance lar merkel has been very clear at a eu summit in brussels about how angry she is about the spiegs on her personal phone. she called it a betrayal of trust of the this is all part of the nsa leaks that were put out by edward snowden. and according to another document given to the newspaper by edward snowden, the nsa was

monitoring the phone calls of at least 35 other world leaders. now both france and germany are demanding talks with the u.s. by the end of the year. >> reporting on the subject of the nsa. sometimes you can't help eavesdropping, right, nsa? well, a former political strategy gist found himself within ear shots on a conversation. he overheard former cia and nsa director apparently talk on the cell phone. he started tweeting out what he heard. and no supervise, those tweets went viral. >> reporter: i talked to tom matt zzzie a short time ago. and he says he wasn't eavesdropping but hayden was

being quote the loud guy on the train. tom matzzie said he was reluctant to start tweeting. he didn't want to do it at first. it was about an hour and a half between the time he got on the train and the time he tweeted and the time michael hayden started taking the phone calls. he believes that hayden was being undignified and it was inappropriate for hayden to be saying the things he was saying. let's go over a couple of the tweets. one of them says, quote, former nsa spy boss on a krol behind me blabing, quote, acela. and a third, quote on acela, phone ring, i think the jig is up. do i hide? and then he eventually spoke to michael hayden, got a picture with him. and i guess they're both from

pittsburgh. because he says, here, me and steeler fan michael hayden. now, again, tom matzzie, pretty unrepentant about this. he says he believes hayden was banking or years of credibility to kind of hide. hayden has pushed back on that a little bit, carol. but this is one of those things that blows up on the twitt twitteratmosphere. >> hayden issued a statement to cnn. he said had a nice chat with my fellow pittsburgher. he says, i didn't criticize the president. i said these were very difficult issues. and i said i had guidance that limited the things i did when i was director of the nsa. the tweeter tom matzzie is live in the 11:00 hour of cnn

with ashleigh banfield. i want to take you back live to boulder, colorado. it is breaking news because court documents have been released after 17 years in the jonbenet ramsey case. we're there and what do the documents say? >> reporter: carol, again, these are from the 1999 grand jury indictment of jonbenet ramsey's parents. we've just now gotten a look at these documents learning that the grand jury did indeed believe that the parents had some responsibility in their daughter's death. what's interesting is that they necessarily don't say that they believe that john and patsy ramsey committed the murder themselves. there are four pages released, two on john and two on patsy, and the two charges that the grand jury wanted to hold these two people accountable for had to do with assisting in the murder or in some way impeding

the investigation. now ultimately then d.a. here in boulder alex hunter decided that there wasn't enough evidence for him to move forward with the case and try john or patsy ramsey in this case at all. and the case was dropped. and then several years later, back in 200, then d.a., mary lacy, who had taken over ended up sending a letter to john ramsey following the death of patsy ramsey saying that new dna technology and testing proved that they did not commit the murder. and ultimately the person who committed the murder was male and unrelated to the immediate ramsey family. we have reached out to the current attorney representing john ramsey who did not want to comment specifically. but he referred to a letter he had sent to the current d.a. the latest information which included, again, that the dna had ultimately cleared his

client. and that's all they want to say right now. we talked to the boulder police department, carol, also, about where this investigation stands today. and we are told that this is still an open investigation. but it's a cold case. so that means there's not an active investigation going on right now. they do continue to get tips. they continue to follow up on leads they may have. but we're told they have not had any credible tipness a very long time and no new leads that would provide a break through into who killed 6-year-old jonbenet ramsey. >> i know he didn't want these documents released but he wasn'ted other court documents released as well so people could get a clear picture. but going back to what it said, it believed one or both parents assisted in the murder? is that what you said? >> that's how we're interpreting them. i can read you.

on or between december 25th and 26th, 1996 -- that's when we know jonbenet was killed in her parents' home -- that john and or patricia ramsey did unknowingly, recklessly to permit a child to be placed in a situation which posed a threat of injury or death to a child's health. and itless says they render assistance to prevent the discover and conviction and punishment of such a person. in laymen's terms, we're understanding this to me that the grand jury had some kind of involvement in their daughter's death. that they should be held responsible for that involvement. but it does not clarify or necessarily pin the murder on them specifically. >> it makes you wonder -- i'm sorry. it makes you wonder who that

person is. who is that person they're referring to? >> reporter: and again that -- well, that's the big question. that's the murder mystery that continues to hold true today. they have dna of the person they believe committed the murder. the dna that was found on her clothing, on several items of her clothing, that they know belongs to a male. and it's somebody unrelated to the family. so as a result of that dna evidence, the district attorney several years after the grand jury indictment happened, she cleared the family from any involvement in the murder. and she even sent a letter to john ramsey at that time apologizing for the cloud of suspicion that the family had been under for well over a decade after their daughter was murdered and said that from that point moving forward, after the dna testing technology had come into -- into -- come to be and cleared the family, that the

family would then be considered victims in this case and would be treated as victims not as people or persons of suspicion. >> really interesting. so the documents are on cnn.com? is that what you were going to say. >> reporter: that's what i was going to say. we're working to get them on cnn.com. four pages. anybody who wants to take a look at specifically what they say, they can go online. but again, i think the main point here is that these documented likely aren't going to change anything moving forward in the investigation and it still remains a mystery who actually killed jonbenet ramsey. we have the dna, but there's no match to that up to this point. >> thanks so much. we've got to take a break. back with much more on "newsroom." people don't have to think about

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this morning, the search for a way to heal at sandy hook elementary continues. crews will begin destroying the school where a gunman killed 26 people. last year's massacre added new urgency over the debate over gun violence and safety. also this morning students are returning to class at danvers high school. a 14-year-old student is now charged in the murder of a math teacher there. and this time, a middle school in sparks, nevada, the

police say a 12-year-old student shot three people and then killing himself. went to take a moment to discuss school violence and a search for answers. we have two men joining us to talk about this. this week both men focused on school violence at the international association of chiefs of police conference. welcome to you both. first of you will, i just want to gauge how afraid parents should be for their kids in school. i'll pose that question to you, chief. >> i would have to say that i'm not sure that "scared"st right word. be will dered is probably better. many folks in newtown are be will dered that the continued acts of violence twoon to take place. as i was dropping my daughter

off, i told her i was coming here and she asked me why. and i said it's important to talk about it. and she said, dad, you can talk all you want, they're never going to change. >> how old is your daughter? >> 16. >> that makes me sad. colonel, is there an answer, i know that chief policemen across the world got together. >> we're constantly talking about public safety. but when you look at our schools across the nation, i believe they are safe. and what we've got to sit there and think about is not just trying to predict when things are going to happen, but we've got to prevent them from happening. threat assessments, working in. with your local police agencies. understanding where when you go to a school where the programs are and classrooms are. active shooter training, education. but also about talking to our kids.

they're going to tell us when things are going to happen. you you've got to have that conversation with the students, the teach he ares have to be engaged. faculty has to be engaged. to be able to understand when a child seize something, they've got to feel comfortable in saying something. >> one of the interesting things that came out of this conference is that we have to start teaching children not to run and hide, but to ride and fight. the question i have is, how do you teach a 6-year-old that? >> and you're exactly right. we've really change the way we've looked at school safety. it's prevent. that goes back to making sure people secure their weapons in their homes. if there was no access to those weapons, they wouldn't be brought to school. it's deterns. and we know that law enforcement presence makes a difference. and you've seen a lot of people put officers in and around the schools because we know that our presence changes people's

behavior. over 50% of the time when we respond to a shooter, that shooter takes their own life. and a vast majority of the time, we're able to newtize the threat or take them into custody. we used to train people to lock themselves down and hide. we're now training to run, hide, and fight. and if you can run, you run as fast and far as you possibly can. in the morning of december 14th i picked up four teach he ares on the way to the sandy hook school. they ran until they found safety. and that works. if that doesn't work, then you lock down and you hide. we're teaching our educators how to better fortify their classrooms so it's tougher to get in. but when all else fails, we're also now teaching them to fight. and i have to tell you, i don't like that. i know the educators really don't like that. but we don't have any other choice. >> when the chief says fight, what does that mean? does that mean throwing

something at the gunman? what does that mean. >> i think it's doing everything you can to get the attention away from that gunman. but you've got to have scant conversation not only with the police, but with the kids. the education has got to be ongoing. it can't be, we've done enough now and let's stop. it's got to be a continual basis. and we're doing it constantly as police officers, continually doing the threat assessments, trying to look at ways we can prevent things from happening. and you're right about that 6-year-old. i've got four kids. and to have that constant communication to where you've got to be engaged with them so they can feel comfortable. but we have to find the happy medium. when a parent puts a kid off at a school bus, they ought to feel safe. when that chimed is going to a school, that parent ought to say, you know what, i feel comfortable my child is safe in that school. you've got to find the happy medium where you educate the

parent but educating the kids and have that communication where we talk to those teacher and they say, hey, what do i do in a situation like this? and from a police perspective, educating the police to make sure they get somewhere quickly and have pro-active. and also the threat assessments. that's got to be something to continually talk about. >> with the, colonel michael edmondson and chief douglas coops, thanks for sharing the information. still to come, we spoke to her on week one of the obama care website launch. and after delays and numerous phone calls, she still has not been able to enroll in a health insurance plan. we'll find out what terry o'neill is going to do now. [ lane ] are you growing old

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it's not just healthcare.gov that's become a fiasco. our next guest has been trying to sign up on california's insurance marketplace since day one. she says she still doesn't have health insurance. she's 40, a free-lance writer, married, has three kids and also has a preexisting condition. she says shes needs health insurance now. good morning. >> good morning. >> okay. what's the latest? >> well, it's pretty of the tame. i'm still waiting to be enrolled. my application -- i'm still waiting on the application to be processed. >> so you've actually applied, right? that's a first step, right? >> yes. i did apply by phone on the

first day. that was great. due to the glitches and the problems they had on the first day, they have, i guess, been backlogged, i'll assume, because they're still inputting applicants in the system still today from back then. so i'm still -- still waiting. >> how long -- i mean, did you expect it would be this difficult? >> no, i didn't. but, you know, you never really know. and i -- it doesn't begin until january, so i'm hoping by then i'll be in the system. i'll be enrolled and i will have health insurance by then. >> so -- >> that's what i'm hoping for. >> we're keeping our fingers crossed. thank you for checking in with us. despite these problems, kathleen sebelius is busy on her pro obama care tour.

and right now we're waiting to hear from her in austin, texas, a state that has fought obama care and has one of the largest uninsured population in the country. >> the majority of people calling for me to resign, i would say, are people who i don't work for. and who do not want this program to work in the first place. my role is to get the program up and running, and we will do just that. >> next week she'll testify before a congressional committee investigating the problems with healthcare.gov. joining me now is republican congressman joe barton from texas. good morning. >> good morning. >> so kathleen sebelius is going across the country trying to get people to sign up. should we be? >> well, that's her right as the secretary of health and human services. i'm not sure who she works for. i thought she and i worked for the same people, the american

people. in her case, all the people since she's a federal cabinet secretary. and in my case, the people of the sixth district of texas. but apparently she thinks she's above reporting and working for the people. >> she is going to testify on weapons, and i'm sure you're looking forward to that. >> i am looking forward to that. i -- i'm going to ask her about this -- you know, they're talking about these so-called glitches. but my question yesterday was about the total lack of privacy apparently intentionally deceiving americans that, you know, that the public disclaimer is kind of a boilerplate. but in the code that you don't see, you waive any reasonable right to the expectation of privacy of your personal information. >> well, let me ask you about that. because i've been wondering about that. the only health oriented question the website asks of you is whether you smoke. so what specifically are you talking about?

what specific information would you share on this website that you -- that you wouldn't normally share? >> it asks if you have health insurance and if so the policy number and the name of the company. it asks if you have any mental, physical, or emotional condition that would preclude any activity. it asks if you're a woman if you're pregnant. and it combines that with your social security number, where you work, where you live. and the hidden code, it also says the government has the right to use that information in what they consider to be any lawful manner. so i think that is a violation of hipaa. but that's a -- >> we understand, though, the only medical question they ask you is whether you smoke. and i understand your concern about hacking. >> they ask those other questions too. >> the associate security number, the government has that, the irs, they have lots of information on all of us. >> technically, they're trying to get 40 million people to sign

up for this and create this huge database. and if they can share it and combine it with all of this other information, to me that's scary. and they're hiding the fact that you're waiving any right to personally protect that. >> okay. i've got to wrap -- >> i think that's wrong. >> we look forward to the testimony on wednesday and your questions as well. thank you for joining me. >> not a problem. >> still to come in the "newsroom," the rivalry express has rolled into ohio for a big 10 throwdown. carlos diaz is there. >> reporter: we're here with the ohio state fans. penn state taking on ohio state. we've got the details coming up on cnn. ♪

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the rivalry express bus is in columbia, ohio, between the penn state and the ohio state university. carlos diaz. i love the ohio state university. that's my old stomping ground. >> that's why you say it correctly, carol. it's the ohio state university. it's not the biggest rivalry, that would be michigan. but it's a big game between penn state and ohio state. and one of the things they're doing, they're going to be pinking out the ohio state. they go pink why? >> for breast cancer awareness month. >> reporter: 105,000 fans. hopefully all of them wearing pink. and there are other big stories in sports, including the world series, where the cardinals

tie-up the world series at a game apiece. as you can see, it was another night for rookie pitcher for st. louis. he's undefeated. his only mistake last night was a two-run homer he gave up to david ortiz. they committed two errors on one play later in the seventh. that gave the cardinals the lead. and they went on to win 4-2. tomorrow night is game three. now two quarterbacks who are expected to be future starness the nfl will meet in the pac-12 as they battle out west. the ducks high flying attack is led by one of the leading heisman trophy candidates marcus mariota. and they'll try to bounce back after losing their first game of the season after losing last week at stanford.

and down south, legendary head coach bobby bowden is returning to florida state tomorrow. more than 400 former players are expected to be on hand. you might remember, bowden did the same thing before he left as head coach of the seminoles. bowden has not attended a single home game since then. and they try to remain undefeated and in the hunt for the national championship when they take on nc state. but the fans here in ohio think the buckeyes have a legitimate claim to the championship as well. they're ranked fourth, they think they should be ranked third. we won't bring that up right here. >> it could be dangerous. bye, everyone, it was fun. thank you all of you for joining me. i'm carol costello. show with ashleigh banfield after a break.

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