basically, you speak out, if you

are quoted, you're going to get a call from the white house pressure to keep quiet. the insurance executives are being told to keep quiet. the head of the strategy health care associates an outspoken critic of obama care said he's getting calls from executives who want him to speak out anderson for problems because they feel defenseless against the white house p.r. team. it's been told that the white house has exerted massive pressure on the industry, including the trade associations to keep quiet. they fear white house. >> what exactly are they asked to keep quiet about? >> that clarifications were made to the affordable care october. and those clarifications are forcing the insurance agencies to drop the insurance plans. there's a lot of coverage required in the plans. that was not part of many

people's private health care plans. those are the people, anderson, being dropped. despite all the rhetoric, i should say, from the president, you simply can't keep your health care plan if it does not mean the requirements. he said the insurance industry is embarrassed about canceling the plans in an interview, he told me that the administration was warned about this very scenario and ignoreded advice. >> when the regulations were being put together, people in the insurance agency said you're being overly regulatory. you're not letting people keep their plans who have them now. and the administration decided to do it the way the obama administration was going to do it. one of the things that i think is clear here, the obama administration has no trust in anything that the health industry tells them how to run a health plan. i think it's indicative of what happens when somebody tries to run a business who thinks

they're smarter than you are. >> drew, why would the white house not be willing to do that? >> right now you it's the federal government that's the biggest customer for these insurance companies. government-backed plans accounted for 48% of health care policies last year, anderson, a number that's expected to grow this year and years to come. basically, the insurance companies were in position to just be quiet. >> have you heard from the white house about this? what's their side of the story? >> yeah, pushing back, jay carney just sent this note on allegations of white house pressure being placed on insurance executives. he writes that accusation is preposterous and inaccurate. plus it ignores the fact that every day insurance companies are talking about the rollout. in large part because they are trying to reach millions of new customers who now will have new

affordable insurance through the marketplaces. that's from jay carney. he also reiterated that he believes bob la skew zi has been against obama care for a long time. and a longtime opponent. >> you acknowledge, he has been critical of obama care for a long time. so viewers should keep that in mind, as well as the white house saying they totally don't buy this? >> absolutely right. again, sources of mine. chris frates' sources saying that. >> drew, thank you for that clarification. promises that president obama made repeatedly, listen. >> if you like your health care plan. you'll be able to keep your health care plan. >> you can keep it. keep your plan. you'll be able to keep your health care plan. if you like your plan, you can keep your doctor. you can keep your doctor. you can keep your doctor. you will be able to keep your doctor. if you like your dock, to you'll

be able to keep your doctor. if you got health insurance, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor. you can keep your plan. nobody is talking about taking that away from you. >> all right. it's a very simple declarative statement that he said over and over again. now, in fact for about 15 million americans who have individual health insurance, that's not true. right now, individual policy holders are getting letters from their insurance companies, in some cases canceling coverage, offering new obama care, compliant policies that cover more and may also cost more. even though many will be getting federal monies. it's not quite the same as saying nothing will change. that with president obama is making that promise. he knew it, it seems, jim acosta at the white house. jim, how do you know we know he knew that? >> what the president is really talking about is the vast majority of americans who already receive their health

care through their employer, through medicare, medicaid, through the v. about 5% of the insurance market do get their coverage on the individual market. and that those people are being affected. they don't deny that. but they do say that the president was not misleading people when he made that claim. he was just talking about the vast majority of americans when he was making that claim repeatedly. here's how jay carney explained it to me at a news conference later today. >> the president missed the american people when he made that comment repeatedly? >> jim, no. the president was clear about a basic fact. what is absolutely true, is that if you had a plan before the affordable care act you that liked on the individual market, and your insurance company didn't take that away from you and offer you instead something else that you purchased, but they provided you the same plan this whole time, you can keep it. and that's true. >> so the white house is trying

to make the case, anderson, what is happening to the millions of americans getting cancellations letters, getting changes in policy, is that this is not happening because of obama care. it's the insurance companies doing it. >> factually, that's not really accurate. what carney was saying, while the insurance companies are taking away the plans. in the case of 5%, the 15 million people, in many cases, the reason they're taking away the plans is that the plans are very basic and they don't comply with the new requirements understand the affordable care act. they don't have maternity care. or mental health care. and very basic coverage, right? >> that's right. >> and i tried go back and forth with jay carney on this for several minutes. this went on for a pretty long time. a little bit longer than perhaps a correspondent might have to question the press secretary on this. anderson, quite frankly, i just don't know if he really answered that question. but what they do say, yes, there

are people being affected by this. but they aren't really commuting or acknowledging, anderson, that the reason why these people aren't being affected is that their plans don't comply with obama care. they can blame the insurance companies but it's the obama care that's causing this. >> the supporters say the plans that they have, they're not great plans, they're too basic. a lot of these people will get better plans. the flip side it may cost them for, if they don't qualify for subsidies. these new plans may cause them more. >> that's exactly right. there are millions of people zrupgted ed disrupted in all of this. in the pre-obama care era, where they might be out of luck, in the new era, what they might be able to do go online and buy insurance, yes, while the benefits may be better and there might be more coverage, those policies are going to cost more. i talked to an industry

representative who said this should never have been a surprise to the white house. this is always something that they knew was coming these high catastrophic plans that americans had are just not going to work with obama care. >> let me know what you think. tweet using #ac360. we're going to continue with howard dean and ralph freed. extreme surfer, he rescued a woman from drowning then found time to surf a 100-foot of water that may send him into the record books. it could have killed him. if it is 100-foot wave of water. a new world record. take a look. >> my foot was kind of coming out of my foot straps. >> your foot was coming out of

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hearings today on capitol hill. what should be held accountable for the problems. beyond just glitches, frankly. president obama often made a point of claiming that person should be him. >> the buck will stop with me. the buck will stop with me. the buck stops with me. the buck stops with me. i'm the president and the buck stops with me. the buck stops with me. ultimately, the buck stops with me. >> well, joining us now is former vermont governor and dr. howard dean and ralph freed president of health strategies and chairman of the conservative faith and coalition. dr. dean, we heard this president time and time again saying if you like your insurance, it's not going to change. you can keep it. you can keep your doctor. we know for some 15 approximately americans that is likely not the case because their plans do not cover enough that is -- that has to be covered under the affordable care act so their plans will change. should the president have been more up front or precise in his language?

>> let's look at what actually happened. what you said may or may not be so if you like your insurance. these folks aren't going to know until they see what they get instead. for the most part, for the most part, more comprehensive insurance -- >> but -- >> they may have to pay more but in fact, most of them will not. most of them will qualify for the subsidy because that's who has to go on the individual market, is people who make modest incomes, often small business people. look, this isn't part of the blame game routine. there is game to go around. i agree with the president, the buck stops with them but this has to roll out before we know how good or bad it. i'm betting it will roll out better after the 1st of december and that people are going to like this, because they liked it in massachusetts and it in fact did what it's supposed to do in massachusetts. >> ralph, obviously, you're not a fan of it. but should the president have

been more precise when he kept saying to people, your plan's not going to change if you like your plan? >> well, if he didn't know what he when he was making those initial statements, anderson in 2008, '09 and '10 we know from news organizations from cnn and nbc news. no later than july 2010 when the department of health and human services promulgated these regulations, they made it abundantly clear that any change in an existing policy, including the cross of the a "t" or dots of an "i," the changing of a plan and providers and deductibles, any change no matter how minor you were no longer grandfathered. at that point there was a sort of damocles hanging over every single person in this country who is responsible by the way,

who plays by the rules, and out of their own pocket without subsidies or help from their employer goes on t market and purchases these policies. we know 50 to 75% of these people will lose health insurance as it's constituted but the initial evidence is the deductibles will be higher and premiums will be two, three, four, and in some cases even five times higher. and the terrible irony of this, the tragedy of this, is that a plan that was designed to solve a problem, which is 48 million people out without insurance, is probably going to dump another 7 to 10 people people off the insurance rolls, and many of them will just wait until they get sick. and they'll just pay the fine. >> i have to say -- i have to say respectfully that is total nonsense. that is complete speculation based on exactly nothing. the fact of the matter is that these people will all end up with insurance and most of them will get subsides.

technically speaking, the premium may be higher, but because they're going to get subsidies, the average premium for a young person is probably going to be under $100 a month. that's pretty good. we have costed out some of this stuff from vermont. the average working person making $30,000 a year, their costs will go down about 40%. >> some people -- >> this is just doom and gloom and nonsense. will there be some people who hurt? yes. the vast majority will be hurt. >> i'm suddenly going to be forced to have health insurance that has maternity care where i'm a guy -- >> that's true. >> and i don't need maternity care. >> anderson, that is true. we've had that system in place for 20 years in this state. we believe health insurance is of necessity and by design a pool which includes everybody, men and women. >> yeah.

>> in the obama care situation, essential care is covered. good policies, a lot of policies in the individual market are fly by night and will be eliminated. >> ralph, people who support it say, look, the people who -- yes, they're going to have to change their very basic policies, but they're going to get better policies. they'll have to get better health care and that will benefit everybody. >> no, what actually is going to happen is, people who are healthy, people who have played by the rules and covered themselves responsible so they weren't a burden on the government are now going to get hammered and i talked to a democrat in virginia two days ago whose in his 50s. he doesn't need reproductive health services. he doesn't need maternity care. he just got a letter from his employer -- from his insurance company. he called the insurance company. the policy they are offering him doubled the deductible and will cost him $5,000 a year additional and he's being asked to pay for mental health care services and all kinds of

mandates that he doesn't need, that he doesn't want, that he shouldn't have to pay for. my point is what is really unfortunate about this is if we want to have a real reform that moves us in a positive direction, we would want to go in the exact opposite direction. we would want people who don't need those services to be able to buy a scaled down policy that was a high deductible, not just catastrophic by primary care, preventive care, basic services they need and let's have a consumer patient centered health care system -- >> dr. dean -- >> -- that meets the needs of the patient. >> that is not a consumer-centered health care program. what happens if you get a mental illness and you don't have any coverage for it. you're completely screwed. that is a lousy policy. if they invent their own health care policy and guess at what they might or might not have, that is not service health insurance. if you look in massachusetts, look, let's be frank. this plan that obama has was modelled after romney's plan in

in effect for five years. 98.5% in massachusetts have health insurance, far greater than any other state in the country. this program may have flaws. we have not yet discovered what they are. this is speculation, nonsense. i'm tired of it. i think it's time for all americans to pull together -- >> i love -- >> -- do the best we can to make this work for all of us. >> i love the way the democrats invoke mitt romney's name when they're trying to defend the indefensible. the fact is, this plan, this health care plan, passed in both the senate and the house without a single republican vote. >> are you saying it's not working the way dr. dean is saying in massachusetts? >> well, totally different situation. you had a much lower level of uninsured. you have very few people who had to buy into this. i think in massachusetts it was in the low single digits of people who didn't have health insurance. that's not the case. >> okay. >> in the united states as a

whole. it's apples and oranges and you shouldn't try to have a command and control system. >> we got to leave it there. dr. dean good to have you. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> for more go to cnn.com. let me know what you think. let's talk about it on twitter #ac360. . spying on each other, is that true? we'll see what glenn greenwald says about it. daring or completely crazy but record-setting. i talked to a brazilian surfer that rode that giant, giant monster wave.

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the director of national intelligence says allies absolutely spy on american leaders. he did not, however, say specifically whether president obama himself knew about the nsa targeting the phones of 35 leaders including u.s. allies, including the german chancellor. he did say that the u.s. knew about the starting and the type of collection that's been done. >> would it be fair to say that the white house should know what those collection priorities are? >> they can and do, but i have to say that that does not necessarily extend to the detail. and we're talking about a huge enterprise here with thousands and thousands of individual requirements. >> this all starts, though, as you recall, with a report in germany's der spiegel that the nsa monitored the german chancellor's cell phone and could be traced back to the nsa whistle-blower edward snowden.

glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to jay tapper when he interviewed him earlier this week. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had access to classified information. he violated conditions under which they got those. he's a traitor, pure and simple. and i don't think you can judge him any other way. there's some people who say he's a whistle-blower. he's talked about methods and ways we collect intelligence. >> a number of people said and come around and changed their opinion but clearly vice president cheney has not, doesn't sound like he's going to. how do you respond to what he said? >> i'm really glad dick cheney is available to speak on this because i think he under scores the most important point. dick cheney engaged in some of the worst, most radical conduct in the last century in the united states and did it all in secret from lying about the war

in iraq, to torturing people, to putting people in cages with no lawyers. to eavesdropping of the american people without the warrants required by law. people in political power like dick cheney want to do what they do behind a wall of secrecy because they always consider those who bring transparency to what they do to be evil, treasonous people. edward snowden is considered a hero to people around the world and the united states and received all kinds of whistle blowing awards because he did what people of conscience do, which is tell the world about what they should know that people are trying to keep concealed. it's created a worldwide debate over internet freedom and the value of privacy and dangers of surveillance and movements of reform for all kinds of legislators around the world and the world is much better off that the dick cheneys of the world aren't able to abuse their powers. >> so when they say it has done

harm to the united states, have you seen any actual proof of harm to the united states? have you seen any actual proof to the united states? is there any proof that could be shown to you that could make you believe it harmed the united states? >> let a single government official who goes on television and says that anything that we published that's from the united states point to a single fact that we've publish that resulted in any tangible harm and make them say what that harm is. the terrorists have always known forever that the united states government is trying to monitor their communications. we didn't tell the terrorist anything they didn't already know. what we told the world what they didn't know is this spying system is directed at innocent people, people that have nothing to do with terrorists. people who are involved in economic trade. that it's all about bulk spying to increase the power of american political officials. and what dick cheney and barack obama and keith alexander are angry about is not that we harm national security. what they're angry about is we harm their reputations and their

credibility by exposing their harmful acts that they wanted to keep secret. >> the director of national intelligence james clapper defended collecting intelligence. i want to play for the viewers what he said. >> to determine if what they -- from an intelligence perspective of what they are saying gels with what is going on, it's invaluable to us to know where countries are coming from, what their policies are, how that would impact us across a whole range of issues. so, and it isn't just leaders themselves, it what goes on around them and the policies that they convey to their governments. >> so, glenn, he said this has been going on for decades and leadership intentions that that's essential and allies spy on us as well, and no country has more overnight of its intelligence community than the united states.

>> well, anderson, what he's expressing is a warped and radical view of how international norms as evidence by these leaders to the fact that they are being personally targeted. perhaps the best evidence, one of the most loyal defenders of the nsa in the entire country, dianne feinstein, the chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee said, number one that she emphatically opposes that spying on allied leaders who are democratic leaders because it destroys trust and number two, she said as the oversight chair she had no idea this was taking place. the white house also claims they were never told. so general alexander's assertion is being contradicted. >> are you saying you don't believe that other nations try to spy on leadership intentions in the united states, that they would like to know what the inner circle of president obama is thinking and what advice they're giving him and what

they're saying? >> everybody spies, anderson. it's a question of the degree to which they spy, how appropriate the targets are that they select and the invasiveness of that espionage. there is lots of costs and benefits to spying on allies, including the pact if they find out you're going to destroy the relationship of trust you build up between the allies. what the united states system of espionage is is a some unlike anybody else in the world does. mass bulk spying on the part of tens of millions of its citizens and tens of millions in the world. economic espionage, nothing to do with terrorism and spending a full decade listening to the personal conversations of one of its closest allies, sure, other countries spy, but nowhere near to the extent or what the invasiveness or cad callism of the united states government and that's why it's become so controversial. >> glenn greenwald, appreciate you being on.

police discover body parts in two separate but connected sewage plants. appears to be the same person. actor rob brown of the hbo series launches a complaint of racial profiling against a famous new york city department store. he's not the only shopper to do so.

let's get a quick look at some headlines, isha sesay has the bulletin. >> a murder mystery, body parts turned up in two separate but connected sewage treatment

plants is believed to be the same person and they believe it's a woman's body intentionally placed inside the city's sewage system. jurors in the martin macneill murder trial heard an interview his daughter gave in 2008 when she was 7. she told police her mother's body was, quote, all the way in the bathtub water when she found her. anderson, new york city police commissioner ray kelly was booed off the stage in brown university. he was there to give a speech in stop and frisk. the talk was cancelled. police commissioner feeling the anger among some students there. >> isha, thanks very much. new allegations of racial profiling with the new york city police and two high-profile new york department stores. accused of singling out african-americans. the new york state attorney general giving the retailers until friday to turn over policy information on stopping and detaining questions and when

they alert authorities. two african-american customers were stopped and questioned by police after buying expensive items at barneys new york. they said no employees were involved and a macy's flag ship store is investigated after two african-americans claim they were detained by police after making purchases. >> one of those is actor rob brown in the hbo series "treme." he says he was accused of buying an expensive watch with a fraud credit card. he's suing the store and the police department. macy's said there is no record employees called police about brown. a short time ago, i spoke to him and his attorney. >> rob, you were in macy's to buy a watch for your mom for her graduation. explain what happened. >> i go to macy's to get the watch. decided i wanted to get her a movado watch. an older gentleman helped me select the watch. finally figured out which one i wanted. it happened to be a display model so he needed to clean

some glue off of it where the tag is. while he was doing that, i went to a sunglass hut in macy's to select some shades for myself. i went to finish the transaction with the watch. used my american express. signed for it. got my receipt. transaction is over. i go to complete a transaction with the shades, before i could get them, i still have my credit card to pay for it, i get tapped on my shoulder. i turn around. i see a white male. there is another white male, someone taps my right arm, i turn around here, another white male, and at that point i was like, okay, what's going on? they say that's a fake card. you're going to jail. smouned some kind of badge. it happened quickly so i'm like okay look, i just used this card to buy this watch. it's not a fake card. i have plenty of i.d. on me. they cuff me, parade me around the store. we do this all the time, it's a

fake card, you're going to jail. >> couldn't they have just -- the salesperson called up american express and verified that the card was real? >> anderson, that's the same question i had at the time and i still am asking. now, he's going through my i.d.s, asking me about previous addresses. asking me about my louisiana address. i have a condo down there in new orleans. that clued me in like okay, what do you know about new orleans? maybe you recognize me from the "treme" in new orleans. so they release me or at least let me out of the cell. i get to graduation late. i'm going to the balcony and find where they are sitting and find my mom. >> this special day was basically. >> ruined. >> what is that feeling to be paraded through the store like that? >> it was fury and just helplessness. because i'm just here to try and buy a watch for my mother, that's all and i get locked up for it? more do i have to do to keep this from happening?

>> so you think the fact you that were buying an expensive watch, that may have played a role in this? that somehow raised some eyebrows among some people to bring you under suspension? >> i'm not sure that's why we're doing this investigation but that's the only thing that makes sense. i'm fairly young, black, what is this kid doing. >> it was a $1,300 watch. >> a $1,300 watch and ghon ao at some shades. something is up. let's find what is up. >> even if you break it down, the initial approach, if you look at the nypd and their actions the way they approached him so aggressively, not giving him even a moment to verify his identity. not even thinking to call american express because as he said before, they were certain that his card was a fake. >> he kept saying to me, we do this all the time. it's a fake card, you're going to jail and i looked him in the

eye and realized there's no talking to this man. this is happening. i'm going to miss graduation because he's not going to budge on this. i'll talk to a surfer about a monster potentially killer wave off the coast of port gill.

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a record. hey, welcome back. a brazilian surfer may have set a record. that's carlos burle riding a monster wave off the coast of portugal. the wave was taller than 100 feet, not definitive, that's well over the number he needs to break a record set in 2011 by another big wave surfer named garrett mcnamara. garrett's record is 78-foot wave. location is known as a mecca for giant waves and also incredibly dangerous spot to surf. right at the base. there are rocks right at the base just before he caught that mountain of a wave which could have killed him, he rescued a fellow surfer and friend who nearly drowned. joining me exclusively is carlos burle. carlos, congratulations. i watched the video of you on that wave over and over again today. every single time your heart stops. what was it like riding the wave? >> it's crazy, you know, because

you going so fast and you know that it can fall and it's like going down a mountain that never ends because while the wave it -- it's very intense and it's so hard for you to keep control in a situation like that, and i had my heart coming up out of my mouth all the time like you have to hold yourself you have to hold yourself. you're not going to fall. you're not going to fall. i was so happy when i made it all the way to the bottom and i hold the first white water hit me and the second white water i couldn't hold anymore but i made it and i made it and i was glad just to do it, you know. >> i interviewed garrett mcnamara last year and i was in nasa ray with him, and when he

was riding that 78-foot wave, the current record, he actually looked back and described it like an avalanche. did you actually look back at the wave when you were on it? >> no, i didn't, not on this one. i didn't have time to do it. i was trying to keep control all the time. my board was just jumping all over the place. my foot was kind of coming out of my foot straps. >> your foot was coming out of your foot straps? >> yes, yes. >> wow, that's crazy. >> that was crazy, you know, just going so fast and my foot was coming out and it was so tired. i did everything correctly but you know how it is, it so hard to keep control because you hitting bumps after bumps and you going fast. >> and right before you went on that wave and had that incredible ride, another surfer, maya gabrielle, a surfer you

trained with, she almost drowned, what happened to her? >> she was doing okay at the beginning. she hit couple bumps and kept control, but somehow she fell, and she went -- when she fell, i lost eye contact with her for at least four or five minutes and she disappear on the next wave and when she came to the surface, again, she was face down, and i just decided to let the ski go and jump in the water and then i took her and grabbed her. and i said she's not going anywhere. i'm going to stay with her and luckily, i was able to make it all the way to the beach. >> and she's okay now? >> yeah, we did the cpr and she went to the hospital with the ambulance. she's okay. she's doing all right. she's alive. that's the point. >> right after doing cpr on her you went out and rode this incredible wave. do you have a sense? everybody is looking for -- to

ride a 100-foot wave. do you think this is a 100-foot wave. i know it's hard to tell. i know it's going to take months before it's actually decided. >> yeah, there is a huge possibility for that to happen because last year, last season garrett rode the wave here and everybody was saying that that would be the 100-foot wave but his wave didn't break and this wave that i surf was just on the right spot and this one broke and it's there. you know, you can check all the images, the pictures and it incredible. >> well, it awesome and congratulations and it great for you. it's great for garrett and everybody and it's great for the town of nazare which i know everybody who surfs there has a special feeling for it. carlos, congratulations. >> i hope to one day get to meet you and take you for surfing. >> that would be great. >> i don't think i'm ready for

the 100-footer. the ridiculous is next.

time now for "the ridiculist." a cautionary tell, in connecticut the wfsb morning news team was recently completely disgusted when the meteorologist scott haney found some food on the floor and ate it.

take a look. >> you look great and that's all over here. >> what is happening? >> come on, clean up. >> awe, awe. >> let's go to the roads. >> i can't believe you ate that. >> you can't? >> i do. >> it's elephant. >> they taste like shoes. >> oh. >> smells like feet. [ laughter ] >> you are crazy. you just ate that right off the floor. >> i don't think that the -- >> oh, boy. >> i don't think -- >> that is beyond the three-second rule. way beyond. >> so he ate some cereal off the floor. it may not be my particular life choice, but, hey, we all walk around paths. i'm not judging, except it does get worse. >> ladies and gentlemen, those were not grape nuts that i ate. i kept finding more and for of it on the floor and i thought it was grape nuts because it looked just like it. my cat threw up and i actually stepped in and that's what i ate. i thought it was grape nuts. i ate cat vomit right here on television. it's disgusting.

it's on the bottom of my show. i thought it was grape nuts and it's cat vomit. >> yeah. not grape nuts. more like cat chocula. add a glass of long expired orange juice and toast you found in a dumpster. scott haney has taken a lot of flak from it. give him credit. it's not every man that would scarf booty pebbles on air. he could say nothing and could have ate grape nuts off the floor. instead of the guy who ate puke. aloops off the floor. from a producing standpoint this did help to fill that day's trending now segment. >> i'm going to throw up. a lesson that's what is trending now, irene, i'm sick. >> we're all sick. >> look, it's like in pieces right here. i thought it was grape nuts. >> make it go away, please. >> ewww. i'm done.

i'm not doing my story. >> thanks for showing us that, scott. so the next time you see what you think is cereal on the floor, i hope you remember this, it's all part of a balanced breakfast. that does it for us. "early start" begins right now. overnight, it happened again. the obama care website goes down. and this morning, the woman responsible for implementing the law will be grilled by congress over what went wrong and who's to blame. have the allies of the united states during the course of that time engaged in anything you would qualify as an espionage act targeted by the united states? >>