58% say no. >> the debate will continue online at cnn.com/crossfire as well as on facebook and twitter. from the left i'm dan jones. >> from the right i'm newt gingrich. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next. lawmaker on the attack. >> who is responsible for overseeing this project? is it you or your designee? >> let me be clear. i'm not pointing fingers. >> sebelius in the hot seat. who took the blame? >> we want to find the truth. >> more allegations against the nsa. how do other countries spy on americans? a special report. and a daughter turns on her father. >> the valium, and then other

drugs. >> new details in the macneill murder trial. let's go "outfront." >> good evening. tried and failed. a stunning admission from vice president joe biden today. even the man at the top of the white house couldn't log on to the obama care website. >> have you tried to get online yourself? >> no. actually the president tried to get online and my daughter tried to get online. i did not because it was clear that i wasn't getting online. >> he always says it like he sees it. now on the plus side for the president's case today, he did step up and take sponl for the website fiasco that is the president did, at least for some of the fiasco. listen for yourself. >> there is no denying it. right now the website is too slow, too many people have gotten stuck.

and i am not happy about it. and neither are a lot of americans who need health care and they're trying to figure out how they can sign up as quickly as possible. so there is no excuse for it. and i take full responsibility for making sure it gets fixed asap. >> full responsible for making sure it gets fixed asap leaving out one important point. taking responsibility for fixing it is not the same thing as responsibility for breaking it. he left that task to his secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius who faced a three and a half hour public grilling on capitol hill. dana watched the riveting hearing and she is out front. >> reporter: kathleen sebelius came with a clear sound bite like mea culpa. >> i apologize. i'm responsible. >> reporter: she repeatedly fell on her sword about the problem

plagued obama care webb. >> i will the president that we were ready to go. clearly i was wrong. >> reporter: republicans eagerly pointed out that the website was not even working during this three and a half hour hearing. >> it has been down the whole time we've been testifying. >> reporter: democrats were eager to point out the positive. >> women can no longer be charged more than a man for the same coverage. >> reporter: some worried website problems are masking all that and want to be sure it will be fixed by the new november 30th deadline. >> do you have full confidence in this new hard date? >> i know that the only way i can restore confidence that we get it right is to get it right. >> reporter: still, she flatly ruled out sentencing the march tlunl deadline to enroll. or delaying a fee americans must pay for not buying insurance. and a few times, her contrition was overshadowed by irritation. >> it is great that you're a team player and you're taking responsible. it is the president's ultimate responsibility, correct? >> you clearly, whatever.

yes. he is the president. he is responsible for government programs. >> reporter: obama care confusion reaches beyond the webb. insurance companies are dropping people's plans. something the president promised wouldn't happen. sebelius struggled to explain. why many of those plans do not have beefed up coverage required under the new law. >> the policy that they had may not exist but they have a lot of choices of new policies. >> reporter: that you wills called it unfair. >> some people like to drive a ford. not a ferrari. and some people like the drink out of a red solo cup. an crystal stem. you're taking away their choice. >> reporter: and republicans came armed with constituent horror stories and pointed out questions why sebelius herself isn't joining in the exchange. >> i am not eligible because i have coverage -- >> you can decide to drop your coverage of your employer. you have the choice to decide not to choose. >> that is not true, sir. >> reporter: it turns out sebelius is right. she is prohibited from getting

health insurance through obama care exchange. but it is not because she is a cabinet sector because as she seemed to indicate there, she is already getting health care under the federal plan. it is because she is 65 and a medicare recipient and seniors who are getting that government health care plan can't also sign up for obama care. >> which is a frightening miss team of dana was there through the day. kevin madden is with me now. and jim manley for harry reid. jim lerkt me start with you. the president, this is a president who has said many times, the buck stops with me, the buck stops with me but he didn't go that far today, right? he said i take sponl for fixing the site. he didn't say responsibility for all the problems. why not? >> let me put hit the way. the fact is, he's fully committed to trying to deal with this issue as quickly as possible, to get it up and running and get the access to the millions of americans looking for it now. i think he laid it out pretty

well and i'm sure there will be more to come in the days and weeks to come. >> there is a new poll that came out tonight. i want to share it with our viewers. the president's approval rating at an all time low. 42%. five points down this month. the white house though is saying republican does them a favor on the hill. that's the quote we just got. how so? how did the republican dozen the president a favor? >> by point outing that they have continued to be opposed to providing access to health care for millions of americans. they have a real problem. one we get over the computer glitches and more and more people are beginning to get access to health care, republicans will be in a position where they'll be described accurately as taking away health care for millions of americans. polls go up, polls go down. a rough patch right now. the fact is, the polling has been pretty consistent over the five years that he's been president. i don't see any real problems. >> let many ask you to follow up what he just said. he if it starts to work

republicans have a problem. the president was in boston today, hole of romney care. i know you know so much about this. in august, 84% of people in massachusetts said they were satisfied with the health care they've gotten over the past year. when it started, it was incredibly slow. there were all kinds of problems. what if this is the same way? at some point should republicans stop pointing the finger? if it points back at them, it will be ugly. >> they're very happy with the folks in massachusetts are very happy with the massachusetts plan. it was a state plan will it was also a plan that was tailored to the unique health care population of massachusetts which was about 6.5 million people when that law was passed. the problem with obama care is that what it has done is rearrange 1/6 of the american economy in a way that set a federal standard and it is for 300 million people. those 300 million people are seeing higher premiums and they're seeing less choice in their health insurance options as a result of it.

so that is the big problem. you have this monstrosity of a federal standard that is getting in between people and their doctors and also, it is limiting the choices that they previously had. that's where i think republicans are aligning themselves with consumers sentiment. they see this -- >> are not they getting better plans? people may say i want my solo cup and not my crystal cup. the problem is when something happens with their health care and they need the crystal cup, they're still going to go expect care and the rest country will still pay for it. so why should not you force them to guy crystal cup in. >> that's a great question. deciding which man is better for you ought to be up to you. under obama care, the government is telling what you is the better plan for you. that's where a lot of people are so tikds off at obama care and ticked off at washington. >> secretary sebelius' expectations were low as far as sign-ups. overall, we've heard these numbers. you have to have young and healthy people sign up she

admitted because of the website problems, there is no question, her words, that the roane rollment will be very low. and then there is what the vice president said to christie paul. i have to play this again. do you know what i love about joe biden? he says what he thinks. emwhat happened. here is the vice president. >> reporter: have you tried to get job line yourself? >> no. the president trade to get online. and my daughter tried to get online. i did not because it was clear that i wasn't getting online. >> you have to chuckle, rate? all right. the president probably didn't want anyone to know that he tried to go on obama care and failed. my point is that at some point your number won't work if people don't sign up. >> two things. number one, i wish the last republican consultants and pundits would stop trying to get on the website and believe the americans are looking for access to health care. leaving that aside, as kevin knows, the rates in

massachusetts started very slow. i believe it is 80%. as some have suggested. the fact of the matter is there is a lot of concern out there. a lot of misinformation. folks are confused. the white house is providing it. as people are more and more comfortable, they'll sign on. >> i don't know if it is guidance when the vice president himself says he cannot get on. >> i think it does go down as the sound bite of the day. >> did he the one thing you cannot do in washington, don't tell the rather the. >> we appreciate your time. still to come, the president got heckled during his speech on obama care today. hear. [ yelling ] >> we'll show you how he handled it. plus, republican lawmakers.

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our second story outfront. benghazi or bust. republican senator lindsey graham wants answers and now. he is vowing to block all of president obama's nominations including the head of the federal reserve to get them. graham says it is time to hear from the survivors of the terrorist attack in which four americans were murdered in libya. and he is not going to stop until those survivors testify in front of congress. it may shouk it hasn't happened until this time but it hasn't. and barbara starr is out front.

>> i want to open up the truth about benghazi. republican senator lindsey graham is not letting benghazi go. his threat to block president obama's nominees now even includes janet yellen, the president's pick to head up the reserve. >> i will be asking the administration to do two things. provide access to the witnesses who lived through the attack and give us their statements they made to the fbi two days after the attack. the fbi says it won't release details from the investigation. the white house insists, it is cooperating. >> that includes testifying at 13 hearings, providing over 25,000 pages of documents. >> some state department and cia survivors have spoken to congressional members. but graham and others want to hear from all possible witnesses.

>> make no mistake. justice will be done. >> the president himself has publicly said the benghazi investigation is a top priority. but as cnn first reported, the u.s. commandos miss ad crucial chance to capture a key suspect charged in the attack. when u.s. army attack grabbed the form he operative in tripoli this month, they were hours away from a potential second raid in benghazi to grab ahmed abu cattala. iter in happened. in part because after the public surrounding the first raid, the u.s. worried the libyan government might collapse from the pressure of being seen helping the u.s. but not getting him. he has lived openly in benghazi and he was interviewed by cnn is a point of frustration for the congress. >> why have we not brought

anyone to justice? it has been easily for the media, cnn, the london time, to interview him. >> reporter: military officials say it is one thing for reporters to go to benghazi. quite another for heavily armed u.s. commandos to go into the middle of a militia stronghold and cam you are one of the most wanted suspects. the pentagon. for more on the benghazi attacks including our special investigation, the truth about benghazi documentary, please to go our blog. cnn.com/"outfront." our third story, justice for trayvon. more than aier and a half after george zimmerman killed trayvon martin, the sanford police is stirring thing up. zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder. david mattingly is out front with the story. as you remember, he was there every single day.

what are the changes that are being made in sanford? >> first of all the police chief, cecil smith, he went on the job just a couple months before the zimmerman trial and almost immediately he was taking a look at the neighborhood watch program. he said he determined that it wasn't working so he completely threw it out. now he is about to roll out a new one which he will announce next week. right now the details are a little sketchy but he is saying there will be an emphasis on accountability within the program and an emphasis on training. he wants to make sure people participating in these programs know what they're not supposed to do. they're not supposed to do what george zimmerman was doing. carrying a gun and pursuing someone suspiciously. >> in this program, it is clear. clearly stated that you will not pursue an individual. in our new program, it clearly indicates that you will not carry a firearm while you're in

the performance of your duties as a neighborhood watch block captain and or participant. >> this seem to go a little further than what you see in the national has not book for neighbor watch programs put out by the national sheriff's association. on page 25 of that 37-paint manual, you will see where it is clearly written. it says that people in a neighbor watch program are to be the eyes and ears of law enforcement only. >> as question for you as someone who covered this. people who talk about justice for trayvon martin and whether the rules would change. would these new rules mean trayvon martin is alive tonight? >> if george zimmerman was following the rules at that time, most likely trayvon martin would be alive today. but george zimmerman always carried this weapon on him at all times. and he was not on patrol per se

that night. he was coming back from the grocery. he did pursue trayvon martin in his car. he told police he was not pursuing him at that point. he was just trying to get an address of where he was at the time to tell the police person on the phone where to send officers. so it is unknown if he would have felt like he was in that kind of role that night. it is and unknown what he would have done. >> thank you very much. still to come, european leaders lying about nsa spying. it turns out they're guilty too. how do other countries spy on america? we have an outfront special report next. >> plus, what has almost everyone excited about facebook? e of your future. your retirement. ♪ ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. listening, planning, working one on one.

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. our fourth story "outfront." the truth about spies. european lawmaker are in washington pushing the white house for answers on u.s. surveillance programs. they're outraged over reports of american spying. but they do it, too. and the ways other countries spy are often straight out of a thriller. "outfront," tom foreman. how do other countries spy on americans? >> well, the short answer is, they spy on us in every way you can imagine and plenty more you can't. what's more, intelligence experts, why they say this is the way of the world of everybody is spying on everybody else all the time. they don't know why everybody is so shocked. reports are emerging that just last month during g-20 summit in russia, there was a problem where they had russian goody

bags being handed out to the visiting delegates. inl side were fishy flash drives. if anyone diplomat took one of those drives home and plugged it in, he or she would allegedly install software which would automatically start stealing information and sending it to moscow. the russian response, of course, was nyet! they said they have their own pressing problems when it comes to this notion of espionage. for example, state-run media claims china, way over here, that china has been sending them irons that contain hidden electronics. not this particular type of iron but irons. what did they do? they will tap into wi-fi networks to install spy software. this is from the russian government media. there is no proof and undeniably there is a lot of spying going. on while we're at it, npr has record that china has so many government officials spying on each other that officials have found bugs in their cars and in their offices and even in their

showers, although i'm not sure what on earth they would be discussing amid all the suds and shampoo. >> now, i know where you might be going with that and i had a theory. which is the shower is on and people get in the shower to have a conversation because they think any bugs in the room can't pick up the audio. >> you have a devious mind. >> i do have a devious mind. i always wanted to be a spy in a second life. you're talking about all the spying of diplomats and on government leaders. but are they really only spying about political things? or is some of this more personal? >> well, you know, not necessarily all political. this is way it has been for a very long time. people forget about this. a lot of spying has to do with private companies and economies and how governments and companies can get a leg up on each other overseas. some leaked diplomatic messages, for example, i is a they've had a problem with the french who have been accused of having an empire of evil because they've done so much to steal sad light technology. again all these governments deny

this sort of thing and even beyond that, there is sports spying which the french and the russians and others have long been suspected of. that consists of them spying on the training regimens. trying to steal their quill, their ideas. trying to steal their nutrition plans. everything. no matter what you're talking about. when you are talking about international competition, the race is on. >> i would love to see air bus and boeing spy. >> i think the shower head would be the least that. thanks to tom foreman. appreciate incredible when you think about what is really going on. still to come, bombshell testimony at the murder trial of dr. martin macneill. why his own daughters believe he killed their mother. plus a mysterious plane crash at a major american airport. here's the thing that will stun you. no one noticed for seven hours. and the president today got heckled. >> health care --

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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." a plane crash left the pilot dead and no one noticed. a bizarre event, air traffic control audio shows peel on the ground at nashville inlt national airport were caught by

surprise. hours after the plane crashed, another pilot was taxiing and noticed debris on the runway. that's how they found out. minutes later the airport was closed with planes waiting to be cleared for takeoff. >> do you know what we can expect? i know they closed the afrlt do you know why and approximately how long? >> there was an airplane crash at the end of runway two center. hope it won't be very long and we'll have that back open for you. >> that's just bizarre. not only did no one see the cessna sky hawk coming to the airport, no one saw it crash which is a pretty frightening thing when you think about this being an inlt national airport. the control tower is staffed 24 hours a day. the remnants sat on the tarmac for nearly seven hours. >> we understand working with the airport authority that there was a runway sweep some time around 2:00 a.m. on the day of

the accident. then they were notified about 8:45 am by a general aviation aircraft, that there was debris on the runway. >> the national transportation safety board is investigating that there was dense fog at the time of the crash but they don't know if it was a factor. they're also looking at radar and control tapes to see if they can explain how to pilot ended up in nashville. they weren't expecting him. there he was supposed to be going to ontario, canada. facebook's stocks, sales surged 60% over the year. when you look at facebook, they are ads and mobile ads which were launched last summer. needed to be the powerhouse and have become that. about half the company's revenue. that was the good news. the bad news was a decline in users among younger americans teens which of course is the pipeline for facebook. the cfo of facebook shrugged it off as mostly insignificant. the next big ipo twitter,

they've been bragging that they're getting all those users and stealing them from facebook. the newest panda cub at the national zoo in washington is weighing in at 7.7 pounds. that's almost like a human baby except for this little thing grows to be as big as 220 pounds and can be very mean and nasty. soon she will be able to see the world with her own eyes. they are nearly open. the panda cam is up. viewers were worried that she might get her head stuck between den bars. they measured them and we can report her head is large he than the width of the bars so she will grow up to be whatever kind of panda she wants. ? our fifth story, violent murder in the streets. these there head dligs out of iraq. is it manager's doing? violence is overwhelming. more than 6,000 people have been kill in iraq this year. every single day i get an e-mail

about bombings. >> reporter: the bad old days are back. but it is not 2008. it is sunday, multiple car bombs exploded across baghdad. killing at left a 35 people and wounding 100. the week before a suicide bomber blew himself up in a coffee shop, leaving at least 24 dead. and before that, it was eight worshippers getting killed in a mosque when a car bomb exploded outside. those are the big headlines but small scale attacks happen every day. on wednesday, vice president biden kicked off high level talks. critics on capitol hill accused him of steering his country into another civil war. >> the situation is

deteriorating it is and unraveling and he has to turn it around. >> this week, senators wrote president obama. urging hill to reengage with iraq. increase u.s. assistance and pressure maliki. >> i think it would be a bad thing for us if he finds his best option for partnership is iran. >> jessica lewis is an iraq expert and form he army intelligence officer. she said maliki needs to stop down on iraqi who's aren't part of his coalition and focus on al qaeda's explosive growth there. >> is this version of al qaeda doing more than just randomly placed car bombs? >> they are naming campaigns, setting campaign objectives, militarily achieving those objectives. they have phased operations. >> reporter: al qaeda in iraq has already exported fighters to

syria. >> this is going to be something that is a security concern for us as well. >> it will be at the top of the general when president obama meets with maliki on friday. the iraqis are already buying some fighter jets from the u.s. but maliki is going to be pushing for more offensive weapons like attack helicopters to go after the militants and drones to patrol in syria. on the other hand the u.s. is supportive of that effort but they're going to want some things as well. specifically, they want iraq to stop those overflights by iran that has been air lifting supplies into syria. erin? >> thanks very much, chris lawrence. so many questions about whether or not maliki is an ally of the united states. a big question. our sixth story outfront. booed off the stage. the commissioner of police in new york, ray kelly, was supposed to speak at brown university. one of the top universities in the united states. instead this happened last night.

>> race imis not for debate. >> we're asking that you stop stopping and frisking people. >> after 30 minutes of that, school officials canceled the speech. the students were protesting the new york police department's stop and frisk. brown's president said the conduct is indefensible. the hecklers argue it is free speech. i want to go beyond this. let me start with you. the brown university students say we're standing up for principles, we know this is true, we shouldn't have to liberty to something so false and we should be able to boo someone off the stage, fair? >> no. the format of that particular found ever town hall was supposed to be question and answer. ray kelly speaks, he makes a point. you can ask him a question. he'll give you an answer. the only way to solve a problem sow to listen once in a while.

to boo somebody off the stage, this is pretty indicative of what young peel have been used to ever since they could work a remote control. let's think about this. there are two thing that are prominent on television refl at tv. what's the basis of that? confrontation. snooki gets hit in the face and she gets the highest ratings ever. the second is cable news. brown university students say what's on this news? not this network. your competitors? particularly on msnbc where the race card is played often and twoits people yelling at each other. the audience is saying i learned nothing them see that. that's the example. they bring it the way they did yesterday. >> so the president of brown university said it was a sad day for the school. you don't really agree. >> i think it is a day of victory. we're looking at a generation of people that overall people think are sitting on the sidelines, tweeting and facebooking their answering about the recalled would. that day, brown university students who are not your

average students. they will be on the front line of society. they are ivy league kids. they are saying they won't just exercise their rights of free speech themselves won't sit on the sidelines of issues like racial profiling and sit on social media outlets. it is a day of 56ry. they have spoken. and they spoke so much so, they shut him down. >> victory over ray kelly. a guy who has been the new york city police commissioner since 2012. lowered crime in the city by 30%. and no attacks since 9/11 despite more than a couple people documented here have tried. so he at least deserves the respect of beale being heard and not being yelled off a stage so you can say victory like you're johnny drama. let me play some of the protesters so you can hear a little more of it. you can decide for yourself. >> ray kelly you can't hide! we charge you with homicide! >> does on it some level, doesn't this cross the line? you want they will to be

passionate. if they keep doing things like, this respect they going on make our colonel lawmakers look effective? when they're the lawmakers? >> commissioner kelly's rate to free speech has not ended. he has many other platforms to speak. this was an tunnel for people who are affected by this to say this is not a minor thing. this does lead to peel's death. this does lead to the death of a quality of life for black and brown people as well as those that practice the muslim faithful these are all americans. i'm a part of the tapestry. my family has been here for centuries, as have many others' families and there is no reason we should create a second class citizen. i feel like this generation is saying i don't want that. >> you guys are having this conversation so civilly. that was not civil. is that the way to handle it? that brings no what happened. hecklers at the president's speech in boston. let me play. that i really enjoyed how he

shut them down. [ yelling ] >> okay. oh, no, no, it's okay. >> then he continued to say, hey, guys, climate change was last summer. i'm hear for health care. basically, go take a hike. he told them to beat it. but the president gets heckled. this has happened before. then the crowd responds with boos. civility seem to be dead. why is this happening? >> it is very similar to what joe said. we live in a climate where we have media constantly. from the the snookis of the world to the political commentators. it doesn't end. >> it goes beyond what's going on with people's nows. it is what people are doing with their fingers. i can tell you any comment i write gets personal and nasty in

a hurry. why is that? people can do it anonymously. when you're anonymous, there are no consequences. you know whenner thing are kind of civil? why is that? your face is attached and your name is there and suddenly there are consequences. when you drive down the road and somebody cuts you off. you give them the finger. there are no consequences. if you're walking down the street and somebody cut off wourg do the same thing? no, you're not. that's what's happening now. in civility all around, not just campuses but also social mead and what we're doing. >> it keeps us stuck in a 15-year-old mentality. the main thing to remember is when you start name calling, your point can't be heard. it makes it look like you already lost. nothing left except for name calling. >> as we can see, it is very hard for a lot of people. >> it happened with general petraeus who was yelled at going down the street as well. he fought two wars, man.

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our seventh story outfront. daughters turn on their dad. bombshell testimony from the children of the utah doctor accused of murdering his wife. the women revealing details about their father's affair and their mother's state of mine in the days that followed her facelift. it was an operation martin macneill claims ultimately led to his wife turning up dead in their bathtub. we begin with jean casarez outfront. >> my mom was wonderful. >> reporter: one by one they took the stand. >> my mom was my best friend. >> reporter: three sisters testifying against their father, martin macneill, accused of murdering his wife so he could share a future with his mistress. >> who is martin macneill? >> it was my dad. >> is he in the court today? >> uh-huh. >> where is he seated, vanessa?

>> right there. >> vanessa describing for the jury a message she received from her mother's cell phone shortly after her death. >> did you tell investigators that your dad told your mom to not go anywhere? to take it easy? >> uh-huh. my father picked up the phone. he said your mother is not breathing. she is in the bathtub. >> daughter alexis, now a doctor, is convinced her father murdered her mother. marnlt macneil forced michelle to have a facelift. then plied her with a launldry list of painkillers and depressants. >> my dad was telling the plastic surgeon what medication he wanted. i vividly remember this. he told me that he gave her the valium, the loritab, the phenergan and then gave her two percocets and then one ambien. >> prosecutors say he was intentionally poisoning his wife of 30 years so he could marry

his mistress, gypsy willis. >> and she said i don't know why but your dad kept giving me medication. i went to my father and i said, what happened? obviously mom is overmedicated. she said she didn't want my dad to give her any long after her mother's funeral to move his lover into their home. >> my dad called me on the foeb and said, alexis, i found the perfect nanny. i said dad, what is her name? he started to say he said jill -- i said dad, gypsy jillian willis? i know that woman. i know mom was worried you're having an affair with her and you're not to bring her in this home. >> on cross-examination randy spencer tried to show alexis was a bias witness against her father and changed her story over the years. >> you have given new testimony that you haven't given before? >> no, i just answered the

specific questions i've been asked. >> another former mistress of the married doctor testified how during pillow talk he said he knew a way to cover up a murderer. >> there is something you can give someone that is natural that is there after they have a heart attack so it's not deductible after they have a heart attack. >> so you can give someone some sort of substance naturally occurring in the body and would be there after the heart attack but would also start a heart attack. >> yes. >> so you could cause someone to have a heart attack and the drug, which is supposed to be there anyway so you wouldn't be able to tell? >> that's correct. >> reporter: what randy spencer actually did on cross-examination of alexis, he had her preliminary hearing transcription, numerous interviews with investigators and point by point he tried to

show she had different answers in the past, currently brand-new answers to show that she was not a credible witness. but now five daughters have testified against their father and erin, when vanessa walked into courtroom today, her hands were violently shaking. when he walked down from the stand she walked next to her father and smiled at him as she left the courtroom. >> that's erie. thank you. let's bring in our legal analyst paul. as you heard jean say, five of macneill's daughters, five of them turned against him. how does the defense get past that? >> this is devastating for the defense. obviously, if your own kids think you murdered their mother, the jurors are going to think, that's pretty compelling. he's their father. they should love him and be loyal to him. so i think that really is a big blow to the defense, but i'm not sure that he still gets convicted because you have to

prove guilt beyond a reasonableble doubt and how did the death happen. >> how did the death happen, and the witnesses, jean has been reporting on this, there are questions, one of his daughter as former drug addict, another bipolar and his other mistress with a disorder. if you can't trust the messenger, how do you get past that? >> they have baggage. all of these witnesses have h major problems, so if you're looking for reasonable doubt, you may find that. and how did he do it? when the medical examiner did the autopsy she said she died of natural causes. >> the mistress said he explained in pillow talk how he can do that. >> hwhat is his method? does the prosecutor know? will the prosecutor call a head

kill expert to say there is a drug you can gich that makes it look like a heart attack when not really? that's what they need to make a compelling case. >> so saying that and having your wife die of that could be a coincidence? >> listen, he could have done it but you have to prove that he did it. >> right. >> and just saying that doesn't make it true. you have to prove how the death occurred, what was the nemechanm of death and link it to the defendant. i don't think they have done it yet. there is more to come in the case but they have to provide the link. the level of drugs was therapeutic, according to the medical examiner, when they first had the toc college report. she didn't overdose. if he would kill her deb l deliberately, wouldn't he have her overdose? fascinating case. >> beyond a reasonable doubt, the bottom line question that must be proved. still to come, ashton

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so ashton kutcher has a new job, he's officially been named celebrity pitch man and product engineer for the chinese company

lenovo. that means kucher will offer advice and on sign and software for the tablets and appear in commercials. you might go seriously? how is a guy from "two and a half man,", dude where is my car and more doing engineering? he plays steve jobs in a move view but that doesn't mean he'll be steve jobs. what is lenovo thinking? $65 million. the investment company that ashton kutcher co-founded has partnered with other investors to dedicate $65 million to a dozen startups, most of them tech companies. he's the co-founder of kath list network, they create ads for lev vie, mountain dew and more.

entitled wait "ashton kutcher might be a smart investor. he's praised for being the first in startups like skype and more. here is how we take away from this, one thing is for sure, ashton puts his money where his mouth is and he has a heck of a lot more than an actor. ac 60 starts now. erin thanks. breaking news in the death of a 17-year-old african american man in georgia. for months kendrick johnson's parents insist it's not a tragic accident like local officials concluded but murder. today a judge ordered the release of new potential evidence including surveillance footage from the high school gym where kendrick's body was found taken just before he died or was killed. a few minutes ago, the breaking news. we learned the federal