can go to facing into and twitter and weigh in. is obama care a trick or a treat? right now 62% of you say trick. 38% of you have the right answer saying a at any rate. the debate continues online at cnn.com/crossfire. from the left i'm dan jones. >> from the right i'm newt gingrich. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. the truth about obama care. democrats turn on the white house tonight. plus, shocking comments made by senator ted cruz' father. should the son be held accountable? and testimony from the macneill trial. the daughter believes her father kill her mother. let's go "outfront."

good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront," democrats turn on the white house. the top obama officials got an earful from senate democrats during a closed door meeting about the obama care website fiasco. the white house now in damage control mode. republicans saying we told you so. we begin our coverage with dana bash. >> the gentleman from ohio, mr. boehner. >> march 2010. then minority leader john boehner came to the house floor as democrats were poised to pass obama care. he issued this warning. >> look at this bill. ask yourself, do you really believe that if you like the health plan that you have, that you can keep it? no you can't. >> it is just one example of a republican effort before the health care bill became law of the handled to push back on this presidential sales pitch. >> if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan.

period. no one will take it away. no matter what. >> that was the summer of 2009 during the least health care legislation battle. so was this weekly gop address. >> on the stump interesting president regularly tells americans that if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. but if you read the bill, that just isn't so. for starters, within five years, every health care plan will have to meet a new federal definition for coverage. one that your current plan might not match even if you like it. >> fast forward three years, that's exactly what is happening. insurance companies are dropping americans all across the country from their health plans. many because policies don't have coverage now required under obama care. democrats trying to calm constituents, call it a good thing. >> if we don't enforce this policy, insurance company can

continue offering flimsy coverage that disappears when people actually need it. and no one should want that. >> the hhs secretary struggled to explain. some current plans are no longer available because they're bad for consumers and no longer legal. >> many women are charged 50% more than men. that will be illegal. >> the problem? that's not what people expected when they heard this over and over. >> if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. >> while republicans are eager to say i will you so, privately democrats are increasingly frustrated and regretful that they left americans with expectations that didn't pan out. in fact, this week the number two house democrat, steny hoyer said they should have been more precise in saying that people may not be able to keep their plans if they don't meet new imagineder to coverage. >> our thanks to dana. a lot of questions.

>> the former contractor who leaked some of america's most secretive surveillance programs is now work forg a major russian website. the united states has charged with espionage. as to government property but hasn't been able to arrest him because the russians are giving him asylum. outfront, a former counter terrorism agent. there are still a lot of questions and they're saying we cannot tell you exactly what this online job is because of his security, quote/unquote. but a job working for a major online company in russia, for real? >> well, you know, i think the problem with that is that who knows whether this is just a cover for the russian government or if this is their version of the nsa that's operating through this internet site. the fact is that whether or not he reveal secrets overtly, he can still reveal intelligence about our capabilities. if you remember the scene from the movie argo where they find the shredded documents and one

by one those pieces of papers are literally useless but when you put it together, it is a lot of jerns. so a give like edward snowden could leach out a lot of intelligence just by in that field in russia. >> which is an interesting point wi . maybe they sell hats but it could be their version of the nsa. you don't always say you are what you are. that brings me to the point. we don't know what the job. is his attorney said they're with holding it for security reasons. how valuable, tim, do you think snowden is at this point as an intelligence asset for the russians? >> he is of great value. just his knowledge of how he got hired. the process of his hiring. the type of work he did. the personnel he worked. with all of those things, there's a arraign why when you're in the intelligence communicate and you have a top secret clearance or a clearance above that, why pillow talk is banned. everyone you associate. with any foreign nationals you

associate with all have to be reported. the agencies have to look at that and to see if there is a possible envelope being built around that you could sap information from you. so whether he intentionally gives it out or not is not the question. it is what he knows and what those around him want to know. >> does fact that he has a job. what does that mean in material of his significance? the russians, just to anger the americans, i was looking for a polite way of saying it cork give him aisle you will. but giving him a job could mean something else. you would think if they had exploited him to the fullest, they're not going to have pity on him themselves don't care about any individual american over there. they're like, we're done with you. wash our hands, go. we don't care what the americans do to you. the fact that they're letting him get a job, what does that mean? >> i think it means, i guess on my part, they're going to juice hill for more intelligence and more information until there's nothing left but pulp.

giving him a job in the communicate that he work in before. even though it is not an intelligence job on the surface, it could be used, his position could be used to drain intelligence from him. so i think it is significant because whether this company is allied with the russian government or allied in some way with other foreign intelligence agencies, i don't know. like google and i can't had a and other companies here in the united states that the nsa hacked into and was able to get back door intelligence and data from them. the same thing would be going on in russia. >> thank you. still to come, controversial comments made by ted cruz's father themselves regularly campaign together. it is not like his father that he never sees says something outrageous. you will hear what his father has had to say. >> plus major news about electronic devices on planes. you might not have to shut down

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our third story "outfront" is the faa. it announce go it is allowing you to use your ipad the entire flight and in addition your cell phone, as long as it is on airplane mode and ereader. so it is not perfect on the cell phones yet. they still need to let you talk

on the phone. what's the reaction from passengers? this has been a long time coming. people have been really frustrated and angered by the situation. what are they saying today? >> oh, you said it. you're talking about people who have been in the middle of a great novel on their kindle and then told, shut it down. meanwhile they look at the guy next to them and he is still thumbing through his 600-page hard cover and they're going, why? so people, a lot of the folks we talk to say look. this change is long overdue. and they had a hard time understanding the ban to begin with. >> it has always seemed very silly to me. it never really made sense. this is a rule that makes sense. that's what you want your rules to do. we welcome it. it is good. >> i sat on a flight next to a pilot yesterday and he said it is the silliest thing he's heard. an actual airline pilot. he said he doesn't know why the rule was ever in existence. >> that's not unanimous.

one pilot's union said they still have concerns. especially with the part that if there is some really bad weather and the crew has to tell everybody to power down, to leave that in the hands of the passengers to really follow through with that he said could be a dangerous thing. >> and, which is an interesting point. let me ask you this. i've been overseas and able to use my phone, talk on my phone. hear other people talk on the phone, all the thing that they categorically still don't allow here. when will that happen? and also, there have been a lot of company that have been fighting over this. >> yeah. first of all, when it will happen. that's hard to say. the phone calls, the cell calls are governed about a completely different agency. thats the communications regulators and the concern with cell phone calls is not so much with the airplane but that it could interfere with communication with cell phone towers on the ground. so that's separate than the

devices we're talking about here. as to sort of what's the next step and with the corporations that have been calling for this, you know, amazon fill a whole plane full of kindles to say, look, it won't mess with this. and i think throughout the year, what the faa has found is the risk is so small, it is time to open it up. this really surprised me. when i asked the fax administrator, what happens if people don't switch off their cell carrier? what if it is on but they don't put in it airplane mode? here's what he said. >> the night attendants' role is to advise them what the rules are. we want them if airplane mode. there is no safety problem if it is not but you'll arrive at your destination with a dead phone and i don't think anyone wants that. >> so you have a dead phone. but there's no safety problem. that's the thing that caught us all by surprise. we've been told over and over

and over again, you ever to put in it airplane mode. these could interfere with the may be and perhaps bring the plane down. now we're hearing that may not even be the case. >> that's amazing for him to say that. the opposite of what we've heard. the only reason i can think of, i don't want to hear other people's inane conversations and they don't want the hear mine. >> the annoyance factor. i am with you on that. >> all right. chris lawrence, thank you very much. reporting on that. that's pretty fascinating. no safety problem at all you're hearing from the faa. our fourth story "outfront", a manhunt in oklahoma. four days after a daring escape through hatch above the shower at the detention center, the search tigs for two prisoners. four inmates he is came sunday morning. two were quickly an rehelened but two are on the loose. they are armed and dangerous. each year hundreds of inmates escaped from facilities around the country and we wanted to

know, what happens to most of them? so george howell investigated "outfront." >> reporter: a manhunt is underway for these two jail escapees. anthony, known as thomas leslie johnson, and tryst an cheadle. both men considered armed and dangerous after their escape sunday from the detention center in oklahoma. the escape was short-lived for the two other men who broke out of jail with them. police caught up with dylan three irons and prime brown monday at a convenience store in nearby chickashea oklahoma. about 20 mile from the jail. the clerk says they came here to buy ramen noodles. >> they walked outside. the cops about, ten of them drove up here. that one just stopped and put them in the car. the other one ran down alley and the cop got him. that was pretty much it. >> the inmates escaped from this

jail was either good luck or good planning themselves manage to bust through a maintenance hatch above the shower themselves crawled through a pipe space in the roof. then they knocked out a cement block to get to another room that & that took them the an unlocked side door which they pushed open for freel. the longer the manhunt continues for the other two inmates, still on the run, police tend to gain more options to find them. >> the more likely they'll run out of money. the more likely they'll have to go to people they know to get helpful get money. to be harbor asked hidden. >> it has happened before. prisoners getting help from the other side to evade the law. like this escape caught on camera in garland county, arkansas. the inmate jumped over a counter and through a glass window and he had someone waiting outside with the getaway car. nearly a month went by before authorities tracked him down and arrested him in florida. more recently, two convicts,

serving life sentences were captured in florida. accidentally released from a prison after showing forged paperwork. official believe they also had help from the outside. so the question now, is someone helping these inmates from oklahoma? authorities haven't indicated either way except to say they believe the men could still be in the area. until they're captured, they urge residents to stay alert and be on the lookout to help police bring these men back behind bars. george howell, cnn, chicago. still to come, another day of bizarre testimony for the macneill trial. another daughter spoke. plus, this is being called the most sophisticated drug smuggling tunnel ever. why? what is in it? it is pretty incredible. we'll take you sign i had the

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in there, $12 million. just across the mexican border, miguel, what happened? >> reporter: well, they made a pretty big bust here. and that is the front office. it is always amazing these are very nondescript. where the tunnel went to and from. three people have so far been arrested in this operation. they are not big fish though. they're described as diggers of the tunnel and transportation folks. but this massive press conference they had on announce this thing, i.c.e. agents say there will be more. >> i would offer this to the drug cartels. we are by no means finished here. and don't say we didn't warn you. you go underground, you're going down. >> reporter: a bit of a dirty harry nourish there. they are very keen to get on top

of this and tell folks if you dig under the bored he, there have been 75 tunnels. eight of them these super sized tunnels in the last five or six years ago between california and arizona, drug deals coming in over the border and farther and farther around the u.s. and up the coast into california. so they are trying to be as aggressive as possible and tell drug dealers, if they try to get this stuff in, they will bust them. >> let me ask you a question. you talk about the sophistication of this tunnel. that they're trying to find the master minds of it. the drug lords. but 325 pounds of cocaine. is not that different? this is the first time that's happened, right? something that serious. >> reporter: it is. i think they're still wrestling to figure out how significant that is. they believe it was the cartel responsible for building this tunnel. they zig zagged. they were a little off at times and they had to hit this one warehouse so specifically, the

coke. they're trying to figure out what the significance is. they believe these individuals are desperate for more ways into the u.s. market. that said, the price of coke has come down in recent years and southern california. the one thing they admit. cocaine, methamphetamine, all coming into the san diego area in greater and greater amounts. >> thank you very much. still to come, very controversial comments by ted cruz' father. we'll play them for you. then i'll ask you this question. should a son who takes his father on the campaign trail and brags about it regularly be held accountable for those comments? plus, for the third time this week. body parts found in a water treatment plant. why authorities say these cases are linked. one of the most disturbing videos we've seen. a woman violently shoved into a

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they're able to buy expensive cars. >> a mayor allegedly smoking crack. today he faced journalists and photographers at home. now, this, that you can see here, just going to work, was happening as toronto police were preparing to release a slew of documents and make a jarring announcement about a controversial video that is now recovered. >> that file contains video images which appear to be those images which were previously reported in the press. >> he's referring to the reporters from the toronto star and gawker who said they've seen video of ford smoking crack. also today, you can see him with an alleged drug trafficker. you can see the circle on the screen. the mayor has remain as defiant as ever. >> i have no reason to resign. i'm going about to return my phone calls.

i'm going to be out doing what the people elected me to do. >> charges have not been brought against mayor ford. the video is now evidence in a criminal investigation. more fallout from the nsa spying revelations. germany's foreign minister spoke to us about allegations that the u.s. has been bugging german chancellor angela merkel's phone for over a decade. he called the spying practice unacceptable. >> i understand that it is necessary to fight against terrorism but you cannot fight terrorism by taping the chancellor's cell phone. >> do you think your phone has been tapped? >> i cannot exclude it. but i am prepared for everything. >> you know what? if it wasn't he would be upset. you would not want to be the one guy in the government they decided they didn't want tapped. a meeting with officials in

berlin will help rebuild confidence between two countries. and an "outfront" update on the police officer who in this surveillance video we showed you before. we'll show it again. shoves that woman violently into a jail cell. that bench is cement. michael hart has pleaded guilty to charges. the 19-year veteran claimed she resisted arrest after being taken in for drunken driving. that push was so hard, the 47-year-old suffered facial fractures. the officer now faces up to five years in prison. now our sixth story outfront. like father, line sob. never before seen video surfacing of ted cruz's father comments about president barack obama. let me let you judge. >> we need to send barack obama back to chicago.

>> according to mother jones which uncovered the video, he made those comments in cement of last year at a north texas tea party event as his son was running for senate. now ted cruz calls his father a hero. is the younger cruz on the hook for his father's remarks? "outfront," political analysts, great you have to both with us. senator cruz often brought his father on the campaign trail. he has bragged about how many campaign stops his father has made. obviously they're very close. here's what he said after won his senate seat in november about his father. >> my father has spent virtually every day past year crisscrossing this state. telling his story and speaking on his son's behalf. my dad is my hero. he has been my entire life. >> given that, does senator need to denounce those comments by his father? >> i think he needs to distance himself from those comments. a failure to distance himself

ends up being association. he's been very clearing his father is his here loe and that's a great thing. his father has lived an american dream in many rms. it says a lot about the environment from which ted cruz spreads. it says a lot about the ideology. it says a lot about the man that he has become. it cannot be dismissed. it should be condemned. >> what do you think? this isn't just my father was saying something random on the side. this is a man very closely affiliated with his son. >> and ted cruz in some straw polls is the leading contenner for the presidency, not the presidency but at least the republican nomination. let's look at three presidents whose fathers might not have been the best example. for instance, president obama. when he was young his parents divorced. a very young age. his father was a deadbeat. an absentee father. how about fathers that were more

active in their sons' lives that were presidents. let's see. president's clinton father died before he was born. roger clinton was an abusive alcoholic. he used to beat his mother a consistent basis. >> he didn't take them on the campaign trail and have them say these things. >> right, these fathers though, even in ronald reagan's case, jack reagan was also a raging alcoholic as well. the bottom line is these people, bill clinton, barack obama, they didn't follow the examples, didn't embrace the principles of their fathers. >> isn't ted cruz by definition embracing more because he is taking his father on the campaign trail? or is that taking that too far? >> there is a fundamental difference. we're not talking about judging kids by the father's mistakes. we're talking about the statements on a campaign trail and statements directly off some of the most ugly berther

conspiracy theories. when you have been, when you have grown up ideologically in the shadow of your father, by all accounts, by your own account and it slips out. it says a lot about the waters from which you have sprung. ideological and otherwise. it is a big deal. it is not a character defect. >> however, this is not a kathleen gingrich moment. she said you know what my son thinks about hillary clinton. thinks she's a bitch. if ted cruz' father thinks that, ted cruz thinks that. >> i want to play you something senator cruz has said. this is not in the same category of send him back to kenya but it does show senator cruz' way of programs saying things. here he is. >> i don't want to miss the opportunity within the limited time to do something that is imperative that i do, which is

to thank the men and women who have endured this baton death march. >> have you all noticed, you know, the nigerian e-mail scammers? they've been a lot less active lately. because they've all been hired to run the obama care websites. >> he ends up apologizing for those comments which i think we can agree that might be tasteless but it is not in the category of what we're about to hear in a moment from his father. if he apologizes for those, should not he apologies for send him back to kenya and throw his father under the bus. >> if we to do that, you would have less respect. in the end, say your kid gets in trouble in school. you still stand by him. it goes the other way too. for a son to say i denounce my father. family in the end, regardless of the comments, always comes first. >> let me play this sound bite. this will get a little tougher for you. this is rafael cruz.

a blog found this, colorado pauls, it is called. this is ted cruz's father. >> barack obama wrote, if the winds shift, i will side with the muslims. >> he is muslim. >> mccain couldn't say that because it is not politically correct. it is time to stop being politically correct. >> if you speck me to defend that statement, i am not saying anything. >> i'm not saying defending the substance of the statement but more, this is not just one time he said something. it is multiple times. >> until i hear ted cruz make those comments, here's the thing. it is 2013. the election is three years away. if somebody goes into a voting booth and say i don't know where this cruz guy stands. but his father who is 74 years old who may or main be coherent at this point. >> this isn't about 2016. this is about some of the ugliness that tends to seep

through our ugliness. and someone whose father has parented that. i love that he is saying it is too politically correct. it is fantasy on fan as they. that's what fuels politics. if that is not condemned no mat hear says it, then you are endorsing it. >> and rafael is not running for office. as he pastor. and ted cruz, while he should distance, i agree, at the same time, you can't ask him to throw his dad under the bus. that's not how family works in the end regardless of comments. >> maybe not have him in public settings anymore. >> might be -- >> thanks to both of you. appreciate it. our seventh story "outfront." more human bodies discovered. you know we've been covering this story. this is the third time in one week human remaining have

surfaced at two different california treatment plants. investigators say they could be related. stephanie elam is outfront with the story. what is the latest on this? it was bizarre when it started. now it is even more disturbing. >> reporter: it is disturbing. authorities say they were expecting this. discovery of more bodies national water treatment facility. workers already found legs. then on monday a female head and torso were uncovered 30 mile north at another plant and now this left arm. authorities believe the body parts belong to the same woman that she was likely murdered. >> we're treating this as a homicide right now because of the fact that nobody can fall into the system. so one of two things. it was a nefarious act where someone was killed and placed in that system or somebody passed away and somebody panicked and placed them in that system.

>> officials think the body entered the system intact through a storm drain and then was dismembered as it traveled in the fast moving water. >> do police have any idea who this woman is? where she came from? how this could have happened? >> they're saying based on the manhunt, where the parts were found, officials say it was likely dumped east of los angeles in one of the foothill communities. and police believe she was hispanic but say there is no one in the missing persons fails that match her description. while all this time and water has damaged some of the forensics, there are tattoos visible so that could help detectives figure out who this woman was, how she tied and who killed her. >> thank you. still to come,turing video of a man viciously beating a migrant worker. the kind of thing you cannot believe was caught on tape. a warning that this video is tough to watch. plus the latest in an

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beating a worker has gone viral. now, i want to tell you, cnn can't independently verify the authenticity of this video but it has gone viral and i asked what will happen next in the case. i want to warn you. we're going to play the video and the footage is very hard to watch. >> a horrific video that appears to show a saudi man beating a migrant worker is causing outrage in saudi arabia. government officials there are telling me in this video, it appears as though a saudi man is angry with a migrant work he over having contacted the man's wife in the video. you see the saudi man repeatedly beating the worker using the belt to nothing hill, him, having him if he wants to die. the migrant worker clearly pleading for his life and very much in pain. the official are telling me they want to make an example of this man them want to make sure the abuser is arrested as quickly as possible and they can then man being abused in the video. nobody who i've spoken to knows what happened to the abuse order

the man being abused. they are for them. they are investigating with the help of the saudi security forces. meanwhile the human rights commission in saudi arabia says justice needs to be done in this case and needs to be done as quickly as possible. >> thanks very much. saudi arabia relies heavily on migrant workers and there have been allegations, many, many, many allegations of these kinds of horrible things. amazing that it is finally caught on today. our eighth story outfront. i believe my father kill her. those devastating words from the daughter of martin macneill. the utah doctor accused of killing his wifr. the defense tried to discredit the key witness trying to show the jury that she changed her story and may have had a motive to lie. jean casarez is "outfront." >> miss summers, if you will come forward again. >> reporter: day two of the hostile cross-examination of the daughter alexis turned downright

combative. >> you've made up the story that you told today. >> no. >> you were not giving accurate information one time or the other? >> i'm not 100% sure on this. >> you've never, ever related this before. have you? >> to you? >> to me or to anybody. >> an effort by defense attorney randy spencer to catch her in lies, impeach her testimony, and prove she wanted revenge against her father for having an affair. >> it is not as important to get accurate information on informal e-mails back and forth. >> that's not what i said. >> the attack on her credibility as the prosecution' star witness against her father was relentless. macneill is accused of compelling his wife michele to have a facelift. then during her recovery giving her a laundry list of medications that prosecutors say left her in a weakened stupor. they said that allowed him to drown her so he could marry his

long time mistress. they said there was a history of hypertension. under questioning from the prosecution, alexis explained why she was so intent on investigating her mother's suspicious death. >> why were you seeking information as to your my father killed her. >> you wonder is something else going on here if there is motive? >> reporter: the utah state medical examiner said he amended the original cause of death from card vascular disease to indicate the drugs in her system may have played a role in michel michelle's death. >> if you were to learn the defendant here had drugged up michelle macneill and convinced her to get into the tub and held her down for a little bit, and

it caused her death, would that scenario be consistent with h houhow michelle macneill dialled? >> yeah, it's possible. >> reporter: he admitted he could not justify declaring michelle macneill's death a murder. >> it was not a homicide, either, correct? >> no, i do not feel that i could reach a conclusion of homicide. >> obviously ending there on a big question, jean. what is next? >> reporter: well, the prosecution will have a more witnesses, including a forensic scientists from florida. he'll testify he believes the immediate cause of death was drawning and then the federal inmates from texas, they will testify that they got to know martin macneill. he told them, they will testify, we believe that he killed his wife but could never be proven because she took the drugs and

accidently died, that michelle was just a burden. that she wanted everything and he gave her drugs, got ler in the tub and put her face down in the water like that hypothetical posed to the medical examiner today. erin? >> thank you very much. jean casarez covering that trial. halloween has finally arrived, that's why i'm wearing black. the night when people and their poor, poor pets sadly are denied dignity, dressed up lining the streets looking for tricks and treats. you probably seen the stores and candy clogging for weeks but unless there is a ton of last-minute shopping, this halloween is scary. they expect halloween spending to hit $7 billion in the u.s. which frankly sounds like an absurd amount of money but down from last year. it's not about america. halloween's roots are in a festival but it didn't really take off as a holiday until religious america got ahold and

shaped it into traditions people paid cold, hard cash for. now it's a monster money making celebration and in american style it's being exported to everybody else. more and more countries embrace halloween dressing up, carving pumpkins, which by the way are indig nose to america for taste pate income zombie walks and halloween is now celebrated in asia, tokyo, africa, south america, so here is the question i have for you. are you celebrating with more than a cheetah cat head band? i mean, it's kind of a cute cheetah, it has some pink sparkles. send us your picture and tell us what country you're in. we want to know how big halloween really is. twitter erin burnett or out front cnn. still to come, beer in space. a new idea out of this world. '. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that?

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>> would you say that's awesome? all right. i'm glad you like it. >> reporter: sam is proud of the latest creation, american beauty. >> the sweet earthness of the honey. >> reporter: the beer he brewed with a rock band the grateful dead. >> we asked dead heads and dog fish heads to choose ingredients. you can imagine some of the ingredient suggestions. >> reporter: i bet. it's pint sized and proud of it. >> if we want to go really fast, we probably have to do an ipo and bring in venture capital money and lose control of the company and somebody would not let me put granola in beer and i would not be happy. >> reporter: this is one ceo that loves operating way off the unbeaten president. another dog fish beer is being brewed with actual moon dust. >> it's off centered for off centered people. we know we'll be a niche company

and not appeal to the status quo and we're able to grow because people are into off centered things. >> reporter: dog fish enjoyed double digit growth every year since it began brewing in 1995 and not tapped out yet. >> here we are standing in a commercial brewery. >> reporter: he's partnering with the famed chef's franchise and mauling now overseas ex passion. >> i would say the countries we're getting the most requests from are brazil, we're getting a lot of requests from vaskand kne ya and england. >> reporter: he would be the first to say his path to the corner office is unique. >> one of the few people that graduated from college but not high school. they asked me to go elsewhere march in my senior year. so yes, i had a problem with authority and i'm glad i found a positive way to channel that in my work life. >> reporter: like brewing partners, the grateful dead. sam keeps on trucking and loving every minute of it.

maggie lake, cnn, new york. >> great story and pretty great that he did it, decided i'm going to do it, it's my life and did it. thanks so much for watching and enjoy yourself and have a wonderful halloween, however you choose to celebrate it. earrirerin, thanks very muc. how close we came to having vice president hillary clinton today. there is a game change book and the dump joe biden isn't the only one on it. electronics cleared for take off, i'll talk to the computer geek that helped make the faa change its mind about in flight electronics. a newly discovered tunnel that carries drugs into the united states by the ton. we begin with breaking news. inside the reporting that pol