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that's it for us here in the philippines. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts now. "outfront" next obama care's numbers timely released. but they don't add up to nearly enough for the white house. then families ripped apart in the philippines. >> i lost my daughter. i told her during the evacuation, go go. but my daughter said no, mama, i can't leave you. and the best defense is a good offense. >> hold it. have you ever smoked marijuana? it's a question. it's simple. a yes or a no? have you smoked marijuana? have you smoked marijuana? >> let's go "outfront." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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is causing the numbers to be so low. and that was a subject of a highly partisan hearing on capitol hill today. a month and a half after its troubled launch, the health care web site is still running at barely half its intended capacity. that from the white house's lead tech official. >> we have much work still to do but are making progress at a growing rate. >> reporter: todd park forced to step by gop subpoena said he cannot guarantee the web site will be fully functional by the end of this month, the white house goal. republicans were eager to illustrate problems persist. >> i went on my ipad and got health care.gov and i hit this bit ton that says create account. and it doesn't go anywhere. and it just changes colors and does nothing. >> sir, i respectfully i'm just a technology guy trying to -- >> don't short yourself. you're the smartest one in the room. >> that's not true, sir. >> trust me. i've been in this room for
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awhile. it is true. >> reporter: a rare light-hearted moment during a hearing marked by intense partisanship. >> this was a monumental mistake to go live and effectively explode on the launch pad. >> nobody in this room, nobody in this country, believes that republicans want to fix the web site. >> reporter: and then there was this. >> the american people do not want to see a kangaroo court here. >> no witness here today has been cut off. every witness has been allowed to complete their entire answer. >> reporter: but outside this polarized hearing, frustration is bipartisan. democrat jose cerrano is a loyal obama supporter. >> we've got brains in this country. we've got people who have got kids in college dorms that can invent yahoo!. you mean they couldn't have helped with this? >> reporter: he was coming out of what i'm told was a contentious closed door meeting with house democrats and administration official this is
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morning that mostly focused on a different obama care problem, that is people getting dropped from their health plans that they like, democratic sources i talked to say that these house democrats in this meeting demanded that the white house come up with a way for americans to keep their plans if they like them just like the president promised. otherwise many democrats, erin are, going to have to vote for a republican version of a bill to do just that on friday. i am told tonight that the white house is scrambling to come up with a fix and that they might have some idea they could unveil to congressional democrats as soon as tomorrow. >> that would be significant. thank you very much, dan that we're going to be asking congressman debbie wasserman schultz about that issue in a moment. she's the chair of the democratic national committee. good to have you with us, congresswoman. i want to start with those numbers on the enrollment. we found out late today 20% of the nearly 500,000 enrollees the administration targeted actually signed up for the real plans. not talking about medicare, medicaid, chip, things like that, just for the real plans. can you recover from this?
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>> oh, i mean, of course weep can. obviously the web site issues are challenging. and they are on track to be mostly resolved so that there will be relatively few issues with people getting onto the web site by the end of november. and i mean, if you look at the progress that has been made since october 1 to now, folks were getting about a 6% error rate as they proceeded through the site at the very beginning of october. and now we're down to less than 1%. so there's more and more progress every day. and look, this is -- i think it's great news that half a million people have been able to sign up for health insurance coverage, most of whom have not had coverage before or were really significantly underinsured. and when you're someone like carolyn neumann, a breast cancer survivor in my community in south florida who literally saved $7,000 a year when she was on the blue cross blue shield
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plan that she had before the affordable care act and then got a notice that that plan is ending and the coverage that she's going to be able to get even before she shops on the exchange is $7,000 less annually. that's a big deal for someone who faced insurance companies dropping her or denying her coverage and could only get insurance coverage from that one plan. >> and obviously those kind of stories, that's what people want to hear more of. >> you'll hear more and more as time goes on. >> let me ask you. these numbers that we have, the 106,000 from the government today, it seems like they might be inflated because the administration included people who signed up for plans but haven't paid for them. it would seem only the accurate number is the number who have fully paid and are committed. do you know what that number is? it is important to know it is still cheaper to pate penalty than it is to sign up for a lot of of these plabs. that could be a real mathematical problem. >> erin, the fact that half a million people have been able to sign up for coverage and another nearly 1 million people have
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been able to register on the site and actually can begin comparing coverage availability and looking at what plan they're ultimately going to select, that is a significant thing. look, for me, i'm a breast cancer survivor. i can tell you that one of the first things i thought about when i got my diagnosis was, i got to get right to a doctor. and when i shared my own story, i had women come up to me who didn't have enough insurance coverage who said, debbie, i had to choose between the chemo or the radiation because i couldn't afford the co-pay or the deductible on both. now affordable care act gets rid of the co-pays and deductibles on mammograms and colon ol sco which is and other preventative care. this is critical. and spare me if i notice some irony in my republican colleagues being the ones that shut the government down over whether or not people could get access to quality affordable health care and trying to deny them that. and then today they're suddenly
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concerned about people's inability to sign up. give me a break. >> and i want to ask you about that. when we talk about affordable, obviously the reasons many people want to keep the plans they have they are cheaper than the ones they're offered. but the half a million number you've used it twice now. could you clarify for me what that is? >> 106,000 people have been able to sign up for private market health insurance. about 392,000 have been able to sign up, get access to eligibility for medicaid and chip, the children's health insurance program. >> for existing programs. >> combined. you've got nonexisting program, the medicaid expansion. so they've had an opportunity where they weren't able to get that coverage necessarily before, now they can. >> now let me ask you about the issue you just brought up about affordability. obviously a lot of people that are angry right now on a bipartisan basis, citizens, not talking about capitol hill, is that issue of having their plans that they now no longer can keep them. bill clinton obviously as you now are well aware has joined
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those saying the law needs to be changed to allow people to keep their current plans if they like them. jay carney actually responded to that. >> the president has instructed his team to come up with options for him to review. and you can expect a decision from him and an announcement from him sooner rather than later. you just heard our dana bash say that might come as soon as tomorrow. are we going to get a direct answer on this issue? america, you can keep your plan? >> yes. you absolutely will. president obama is committed to making sure that the people who were told throughout that democrats in congress and president obama said if you liked your plan you'd be able to keep it, they're working and will have, i believe, a fix that is going to address that. but let's also -- you mentioned president clinton. what president clinton also said in that interview is that he thinks we need to continue to move forward and work together on fully implementing the affordable care act. and what we have to do is make
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sure -- let's not make presumptions. you indicated that folks are finding that their plans are more expensive. that simply isn't the case. >> for some people those who are complaining it is. obviously not for everybody. people complaining it is. >> the overwhelming majority, erin, for people who have their plans that aren't going to be continued are going to have better coverage for less money. and as the web site continues to have the improvements and kinks ironed out of it, they will be able to go on. and they can go on now and comparison shop. when they do that they're very likely going to get more affordable coverage with better benefits. >> all right. we shall see. we'll be waiting to go see if that announcement comes tomorrow. >> let's work together to get that done. >> thank you, congresswoman. a disturbing new government study shows there's little evidence the tsa can spot terrorists. plus war on walmart. unhappy workers walk off the job today demanding more way. the truth about walmart pay tonight in a "outfront"
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on the tax payers' dime. how much tax money? we're talking about $900 million, roughly, spent on a program the government says there is no scientific proof it actually worked. we're talking about behavior detection officers. if you've been to an airport, you may have seen them. there are about 3,000 of them at airports across the country. and like other tsa officers, they are in uniform. and here's how it works. they spend less than 30 seconds sizing people up. there's a checklist of behaviors that they're looking for that indicate stress, fear, or deception. if you exhibit enough of those indicators you are sent to a secondary screening for a pat down or possibly onto police. but this report says, decades of scientific research shows the ability for a trained person to detect deception is the same as or only slightly better than chance. erin? >> which is pretty shocking. so you've got nearly $1 billion spent on that. what's the tsa's rebuttal? >> reporter: the tsa are
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defending they program. they say it is substantially better at i.d.ing a high-risk passenger by going about it this way rather than randomly screening people. and at this point, they say that there are many other law enforcement agencies across the country that use the same techniques. we should point out the head of the tsa will have a chance to defend the program tomorrow. he will be on capitol hill. and you can bet lawmakers will be asking him about this program. >> absolutely. thank you, rene. >> sure. our third story" outfront" waging a war against walmart. no doubt you're aware if you live in the united states, across america there has been growing discontent and a movement against the world's largest retail over wages. so in chicago today, unhappy workers from three walmarts walked off the job demanding a better day's pay. so here's the real question. a lot of people have a passionate view on this and think they know all the facts. do the claims that walmart should pay more add up?
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tom foreman is out in front. the holiday shopping has already started for walmart. a lot of employees are angry they'll be open on thanksgiving day. >> they've been open for thanksgiving for a number of thanksgivings now. walmart is saying they're going to give these people extra pay, big discounts on a future purchase and a turkey dinner while they're at work. but that is clearly not going to quiet the critics. >> there is one line only. >> reporter: as millions of shoppers push into walmart this holiday season looking for bargains, they're expected to shot retail giant $17 billion in annual profits even higher. and that is not sitting well with tiffany barroyd who's married with two kids. >> it's very how shall i say that, disgusting? because you know, a lot of times we don't make the money that you need you can't get the things for your family. >> reporter: she says she's been at walmart for two years working 19 to 40 hours a week and made
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just $12,000 last year. >> i just feel that walmart should pay us more than enough to support our families, more like 25,000 a year. >> reporter: are you able to get by on the money you make from walmart? >> not at all. >> reporter: she is part of the protest group "our walmart" an association of disgruntled employees. along with others they've tried to pressure walmart enlisting members of congress, city councils, anyone they can, arguing that the superretailer is essentially exploiting the hunger for jobs. walmart, however, has pushed back howard. president and ceo bill simon. >> our pay is in the top half of what retail offers, what our industry offers. >> reporter: walmart u.s. cites a litany of numbers to counter the accusations of unfair wages. the company has 1.3 million employees with more than half full time. the average pay is $12.83 an hour, more than $5 above minimum
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wage and more than the average rate for all hourly retail sales people in america. >> our management team, our assistant managers start around 55,000 a year. our store managers average about $170,000 a year. so it's a good opportunity. >> reporter: the math clearly works for more than 300,000 walmart employees. who have been with the company for more than ten years. but not for tiffany barroyd and others on the lower end of the walmart pay scale. >> why don't you just go work for someone else? >> i've been looking for other jobs. they're just had to come by. >> reporter: and that, erin, seems to be one of the chief complaints from some of the people who are upset with walmart. they're saying even if walmart is understanding, offer people a chance to work their schedules and move up that sort of thing, they're saying walmart is simply so powerful in the marketplace that whatever it does creates a de facto base level of employment for a whole community. and it affects other businesses, too. walmart of course says, look, we're a private business.
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we are sensitive to the needs of our employees. we're sensitive to things going on in the economy. but we can't fix everything. this is a private business out there to make profit. it's a fascinating debate, erin, about the power of private business in a public setting. and what it really does and how it can be responsible or not. >> it's a fascinating debate. you say they pay more than everyone else. but are they the ones bringing down the overall average to begin with. >> and those low prices make a big difference to a lot of people out there. >> right. thank you to tom foreman. of course we want your point of view. the facts laid out here. what do you think? still to come desperate for relief, eight people died in the philippines today stampeding for food. we'll go live to the scene. plus yahoo! is set to sell off some of the most prized web site names ever. who did shoot jfk? almost 50 years later people are still obsessed over that question. we sift through the conspiracy theories.
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grassy nknoll, imagining what that day was look. president and mrs. kennedy in the parade, the moment gunfire exploded, the piercing echoes through deely plaza. >> the flash apparently official. president kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. september al standard time. >> does it amaze me that people come to deely plaza 24/7 scratching their head and pointing and walking around? no, not at all. the kennedy assassination story is modern folklore now. people just aren't satisfied with the the official story that one man did all that damage, not only to a person but to a country and to the world. >> reporter: the official story, of course, is that lee harvey oswald acted alone. >> could he have survived this first wound? >> reporter: ronald jones was one of the emergency room doctors who tried to save president kennedy and vividly remembers the chaotic moments in the packed operating room of parkland hospital. >> we knew we were working on
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the president. we were anxious. we were excited. we were doing what we would do in the care of a normal trauma patient. and yet, here was the president of the united states. nobody knew he was dead. >> reporter: dr. jones says the first thing he noticed was a wound on the president's neck. >> initial impression was that this is an entrance wound and this is an exit wound up here. we had no information as to how he was shot, with what was he shot, who shot him. we had no information whatsoever. we had not seen the film. >> reporter: later on, the warren commission report would determine that neck wound was where the so-called magic bullet exited kennedy's body before striking texas governor john connolly. >> this could have been an entrance wound or an exit wound. and i don't know if anything will ever come up. it's been 50 years and nothing has surfaced yet that would indicate that there was a second shooter. certainly that possibility existing. but right now i would accept the
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warren commission report. >> it's a fairytale. it didn't happen. no bullet went through both men >> reporter: to conspiracy theorists like robert groden, the single bullet theory is one of many problems with the official story. >> so the x there in the middle of the road? you put that down there? >> yes. i put that down there 19 years ago. >> reporter: groden grew up in new york and moved to dallas almost 20 years ago, proving the kennedy assassination conspiracy is his life's mission. you can find him on the grassy knoll every weekend, arguing his case. >> do people come out here and say, man, you're just crazy? >> nobody says that. >> nobody? >> nobody. there's i guess amalgamation between the mob and the elements in the cia. >> the cia and the mob working together is the theory that somehow -- >> most people that really know the case are somewhere in that
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ballpark. >> reporter: that is the legacy that still hangs over deely plaza, one of the most tragic events of the 20th century. still shrouded for many in mystery. ed lavendera, cnn, dallas. >> don't miss the cnn special "the assassination of president kennedy" tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern and pacific right here on cnn. and still to come, desperate for relief in the philippines, eight people were killed today during a stampede. they were just trying to get food. survival there is on the line. we're going to go to the scene live. it's of course thursday morning there. plus breaking news. a secret meeting about the benghazi attack. we actually know what was said behind closed doors tonight. a big revelation. that's next. and would you pay $100,000 for a sandwich? yahoo! hopes so. we'll explain why. t this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront" yahoo! doesn't know what to do with a bunch of random web site addresses it bought. it's selling about 100 of them in an auction this week. you could buy them up for grabs, sled.com. raging.com. truestory.com. auction prices range between $1,000 and 1.5 million. a.v..com apparently is going for the full 1.5. another potentially valuable one is sandwich.com. might be a lot more valuable to
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cozy or panera bread which is stuck with panerabread.com. this afternoon secretary of state john kerry said that if new sanctions are added to iran, that could unravel progress made with iran on the nuclear program. senator mitch mcconnell for one is not sold. he thinks the u.s. should rachet up sanctions against iran. >> it's pretty obvious that what the administration was promoting is something that the israelis think is a bad deal for them. i think it's a bad deal as well. so i'd be surprised if we do not have a debate on enhanced iran sanctions on the defense authorization bill. >> discussions on that bill are expected to take place next week, which is just as talks with iran are scheduled to resume. and our fifth story "outfront" is the desperate stampede for food. eight people were killed in the philippines today when a wall collapsed because a mob rushed
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into a warehouse filled with rice. it gives you a sense of the horrific desperation that people are feeling there right now. police stood by as people stormed the building, literally climbing over each other in a desperate, desperate play to get food. five days after supertyphoon haiyan, the rapidly deteriorating conditions are leading to an utter state of chaos. aid has just started to arrive, but getting it to those who need it has been way too slow. the latest death toll is estimated at 2,357 with nearly 4,000 injured. the mayor of tacloban, one of the hardest-hit cities, is urging residents to leave. the problem is it's almost impossible to go anywhere else. nick payton walsh is there in tacloban tonight or this morning, of course, for you, nick. nick, 600,000 people homeless, no place to go. how concerning is the security situation there? when we hear about stampedes of people just to get rice. >> reporter: well, certainly i think people are wrapped up in
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the fear of lawlessness here in tacloban in the city yesterday i heard stories, fears of sexual assaults, attacks even on children in some ways. no evidence to back that up that we saw. but that's consuming people, i think, a sense of fear of what criminals may be up to or even some rebel militia groups that are roaming in this particular part of the world. and we encountered some of those fears ourselves when we ventured out from this city of tacloban south to try to get an idea of the level of devastation. we drove south away from storm haiyan's epi center to answer the question how far has the destruction spread. it took about 40 kilometers before life breathed easier. but then the storm left other dangers. police warned us of bandits ahead. >> why are they doing this? >> maybe they are looking for
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food. >> reporter: we turn back towards the heart of the chaos. >> we're closer towards the eye of the storm. signs of the devastation begin to grow. and while many of the trees here are left standing, you can see telegraph pole bent at a slight angle, a sign of the sheer ferocity of what passed through here. they warned us again of bandits where the smallest are hungry and sick and where storm yolanda was so fantastical in its power it came straight from hollywood's own apocalypse. >> it's just like a movie, "2012" some yolanda. yeah, super scary. >> reporter: the basics a struggle, queues for what little gas remains. up trees scattered like match sticks as you approach the town of palo. its two church spires standing defiantly, although 800 people died here in this town of
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60,000. some here where water surged, the winds tearing the back off this house, and from their relatives across the river. >> but we have an uncle from one neighborhood was flooded. they're missing. and three grandchildren, including her. >> reporter: death has been more dignified in palo than the bodies left on the streets of neighboring tacloban. even though life itself remains a shell of what it was. the mayor had mass graves dug first and now gives free calls to loved ones. medicine even bureaucracy. >> most of them died out in the waters. we have survived this far. so i think we can rebuild. >> reporter: the job of simply cleaning up so mammoth, healing seems a distant idea. now what we've seen there in that trip was how in many ways we believe this city, the impact
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of the storm lesser still devastation but an organized effort that seems to be getting life not back to normal but at least conscious of where the future could lie. that makes the failure of the government to respond here in the main city just so remarkable. we went through the town twice in the morning and the afternoon. the same bodies we'd seen earlier still lying in the street. that smell of death, putrid flesh, really hard for people to stomach here if they're even staying in the city itself. and obvious health hazards. so the question now really focusing on the government relief effort. can they return this enormous city of 275,000 tacloban city into a place where people can actually live or the scene you're seeing behind me, a steady flow of people with suitcases, trying to get on any plane that will take them out of here? is that going to continue and is that really heralding what kind of future there is for their city? simply there's not much left to rebuild, erin. >> nick payton walsh, thank you so much for your reporting. and now a secret hearing on benghazi. it's been more than a year since
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the deadly attack at the american consulate in benghazi. and lawmakers say they're still waiting for the truth. now they're questioning witnesses during private hearings. so what can't they ask in the public forum?" outfront" tonight drew griffin has been digging into benghazi from the beginning. drew, what happened in the secret hearings today? >> reporter: the reason the hearings were secret, erin, is because they are finally hearing -- these congressmen are hearing from cia personnel who were on the ground in benghazi. that was a big hole they said they were not getting. they apparently did hear from them. whom they heard from was the security specialists, security personnel assigned to protect the cia in its mission in benghazi. and we just did really get some new information on all of that from the committee itself, erin. and they're basically saying that although there's been a lot of talk of discrepancies, there was not much discrepancy in what
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they found. in fact if i could just read you from what they are telling us. all cia activities in benghazi were legal and authorized. on the record testimony establishes that the cia was not sending weapons from libya to syria or facilitating any other organization from doing that. and this document i just received, erin, also puts down the idea that anybody from tcia been prevented from talking. this is from the house committee, they have said they found no cia officer who's been forced to undergo polygraphs as we had reported or to sign nondisclosure agreements specific to benghazi or otherwise dissuaded from or punished for wanting to speak to congress. so it appears that some of these big questions are being asked and answered in what has been a closed door hearing today. and from what we understand, a closed door hearing tomorrow. >> and interesting. because a lot of people are going to hear what you're
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saying, drew, and say first of all people are going to be surprised, i think a lot of people thought there was some sort of weapons transfer going on in some way. as you yourself have reported on polygraphs. these do fly in the face of other reporting that's out there. i mean, do you think that there's ever going to be a set of formal answers? and why is this a closed door secret hearing, anyway? >> reporter: well, it involves the cia. a lot of what the cia does is secret. and it's supposed to be secret. and that's why you have this house permanent intelligence committee, the same thing in the senate. these are representatives who are -- have security clearance to get this information. and maybe we don't like it because we're not going to hear everything in detail. but these are the filters for the american public to make sure that they have oversight over these secret missions, even though they're not going to share the details with us. >> well, thank you very much, drew griffin. we appreciate it as always. still to come, stunning new images of saturn. we're going to tell you how much
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"outfront" rob ford says quote i f'd up. the city council voted to ask the mayor to take a leave of absence. they do not have the power to force ford out. he made it pretty darn clear he's not going anywhere. today's council meeting turned into more of a confessional for ford. we'll be playing a lot of this for you. you have to hear it and see it to believe it. we're we'll start with this. >> these mistakes was not in this council chamber. it was in my personal life. i sincerely apologize. i understand the embarrassment i caused every member of this council. i understand the embarrassment that i've caused every resident in the city. i'm humiliated by it. but i cannot change the past. the reason i drank or did drugs was not because of stress. it was out of sheer stupidity. that's all it was.
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so i'm not going to blame something. i'm not going to use an excuse or a cop out. i take full responsibility for my mistakes. >> mr. mayor, do you still have zero tolerance for drugs, guns and gangs? >> absolutely. >> have you purchased illegal drugs in the last two years? >> yes, i have. >> thank you. >> you know, bill weir is here with me tonight, cnn anchor. of yours would you want to laugh there when you hear that person saying "be careful" bus this is hard to watch. >> you can see his gearing grinding. he knows what the police know. there are hundreds of pages mostly redacted right now but coming out in drips and drabs, a year-long investigation pinned mostly to gang activity in the
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city. but to a long-time driver, indicted on drug dealing. this read like the john belushi biography. this is information the cops give a judge to try to get search warrants. it hasn't been proven in court. they interviewed former staffers, aides, he snorted cocaine, popped oxycontin while drunk, pulled over to chug alcohol and gatorade while behind the wheel. abusive to female staffers, horrible rants. then crying rants about his deceased father. it just lines up as a guy really really needs some help. >> really really needs some help there. were a lot of heated moments. you watch that kind of see this person confessing. as you said, length of that pause in and of itself. you kind of have a window you don't usually get into a politician or into anybody. his younger brother was there, also on the council, which is kind of an interesting part of the story. they look alike. brother is a little bit smaller.
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>> everyone should be careful about throwing rocks at a glass house. have you ever done illegal drugs? >> i know the answer. >> like you said, out of a movie. >> his brother his attack dog, they went into this thing saying we're going to play the hhypocr card. the mayor upped the ante when he put forward a motion all people in the toronto city council should be hair tested for drugs and he would pay for it. when spoken out the gallery burst into laughter. it's interesting because when the first crack video surfaced and he denied it he almost shaved his head. the speculation among city watchers he wants to duck a hair test. >> i have to say, they didn't say no when he asked about the marijuana. so i guess the answer is yes. i know it's kind of moot. but an interesting window. >> marijuana versus crack.
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the arguments? >> they are different. >> yeah. >> yeah, a little bit. >> relative morals i would suppose. >> but what is surprising perhaps this guy isn't backing down at all. you were up there with voters. you got a real take on this one. >> i think i've said everything i really could say today. there's not much to add. apologizing and saying sorry, you can only say that so many times. there's nothing else to say, guys. i really f'd up. and that's it. i was elected to come down here to straight then mess out. i know i've done a great job at running the city. saving taxpayers money and putting us on the right path. i'm going to continue doing that. i am so proud of the record that
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i have, i can't wait until the election. obviously the campaign started. and i'll be doing everything i've done for the last 13 years, returning calls, watching every dime, going to people's homes, and fighting for the little guy in this city. and if you want to carry this on, i can't stop you. i'm moving on. >> you've got to hand it to him. when it comes to politics this guy's got a giant set, you know? he is using -- you've never seen -- first it felt like an intervention. but for him this was a campaign opportunity. >> right. >> he was on his stump speech while people were trying to talk him into a clinic somewhere and trying to get him to commit. the poll numbers have been slipping a little bit. he had a lot of support even after admitting he smoked crack. we've seen that erode. we were up there, we found a lot of people agreed. don sherry it legendary hockey announcer in canada says hey i think he's an awesome mayor if you take away all the personal
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stuff. but when you talk to people, his dissenters, there are a lot of different flavors of resentment. there's the lying, there's the admitting to breaking the law. but then i met this gentleman right outside of city hall. he bears a striking resemblance. his name is jack mosshammer. he's an actor. he was posing with a bag of of doritos which is a favorite of mayor ford and a football. and i went up to him and said, what are you doing? he said this is a protest. his answer as to why he was angry is interesting. listen. >> what are you hoping happens next? >> what i would really like is an apology. he apologized to the people of toronto. he said this is one of the hardest, most embarrassing things he had to do. but he's apologizing to one his constituents which basically he's open for another run in 2014. secondly he's apologized to people in toronto in general. that's an easy thing to do. he hasn't apologized to people he knew were telling the truth that he called liars. reporters that said they had a tape, had seen the tape and he called them liars and hurt their reputations as reporters.
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>> they really demonized a lot of reporters who have been on that story for awhile. no apologies to them yet. >> well we will see. i got to say, he is a character and charisma and tragedy all in one. >> amen. >> bill weir, thank you very much. if you missed bill's story on the mayor's scandal when he went to toronto, trust me it was fantastic. please go to our blog, cnn.com/outfront so you can watch it in full. "outfront" next new stunning images of saturn and the price tag for you to get them. ♪ [ woman ] i'd be a writer. [ man ] i'd be a baker. [ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what if i told you someone could pay you and what if that person were you? ♪ when you think about it, isn't that what retirement should be, paying ourselves to do what we love? ♪ paying ourselves to do what we love? i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n.
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amazing image released by nasa. a panorama of 141 wide angle pictures captured by the cossini spacecraft on july 19th. it gives us a detailed look of saturn. as you can see in the image, earth appears as a bright blue dot on the lower right. you can see right there. venus is on the upper left. and mars appears as a faint red dot above and to the left of
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venus. the image covers more than 400,000 miles, which brings us to tonight's number. 746 million miles. that's a distance between saturn and the earth when the two planets are at their closest. when they're on opposite sides of the sun they can be more than 1 billion miles apart because of the elliptical orbit. sounds like a lot an yet it doesn't take all that long to get there. in 2006 nasa launched the new horizon spacecraft. it took two years and four months to get to saturn. which is doable. how much would a trip to saturn cost the average tourist if you wanted to see that yourself? we looked attic et cete tickets virgin galactic. it should cost a space tourist $2 billion each way to go sight seeing in saturn. that's one way. doesn't include snacks, upgrades, things like that, food. we know no one would spend more than 20% of their wealth on such a trek. we looked at people worth a lot of money. $20 billion or more.
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so imagine five years on a round trip tour to saturn up close and personal time with these men, all of them easily have that money. the question is which one would you actually want to sit next to for five years? let me a "piers morgan live" special. november the 22nd, 1963, 12:30 p.m. central time, a moment that shocks the world and changes america forever. >> the assassination is deadly. the area is filled with police, rangers and secret service. >> the 35th president of the united states and the leader of the free world assassinated at the age of 46. what if he had lived, 50 years later would jfk recognize what america has become? tonight i talk to members of the kennedy family, the doctor that
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