this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight a tale of two presidents, one cut down in the prime and another struggling to preserve the legacy as the nation remembers john fitzgerald kennedy. how will we remember this president? will barack obama's legacy be a failed health care law. is obama care his katrina? >> i'm not a perfect man and i will not be a perfect president. >> and the president survived clinically and what about the second term agenda? i'll ask the man that wrote a book on him and one of barack obama's biggest survivors.

will he stand by his man? >> howard dean, the former presidential candidate and david gurrigan. let me start with you on this. i watched the president's press conference yesterday, and as he went on and on and on and on taking the blame, soaking it in and so on, i just began to find myself distancing myself from him in term s of credibility and thinking why are you talking so much about this? just get it fixed. >> well, sometimes he does seem to think the longer he talks the more he persuades and i think that's wrong. i think it's just the reverse. if you're more transparent, he got into trouble because of when he said. that's most of the trouble saying it over and over and over again, i feel like your health care plan. >> did he mislead or was it a lie? >> i had arguments over that.

friends of obama said he did not lie. they believe it was fraudulent. the health care law passed because of a lie. >> semantics? >> i agree. in my book -- listen, piers, you weren't living here at the time but when the clintons tried to push forward with health care, the opposition for what was called harry and luis sitting around there at the kitchen table and saying, you know, if you sign up for clinton care, the government will take away your health care plan and burr cats in washington will tell you what kind of health care plan to have. that sank the clinton bill. those ads sank the clinton bill. you can imagine they were anxious to say you can keep your health care plan, you can keep your doctor but got themself in trouble doing it. >> howard dean, fraudulent, lying, whatever you want to call it, how damaging is all this to him personally in terms of credibility?

>> let me say a couple things. first of all, i disagree with david. the staff led him to believe it was true and the early staff was weak and made a lot of mistakes and i think he's a truth teller. i do believe that he told the truth as he heard it and saw it. secondly, anybody who compares this to katrina is smoking something. 3,000 people were killed in katrina. we haven't lost any lives here yet. this may be a big political mess and blah, blah, blah, we haven't lost lives. >> that is my initial reaction but that should be taken to a logical extension, a massive health care program like this which the president staked his reputation on in many ways, it's about life and death and health and if the system collapses, people are going to suffer. their health may suffer. >> piers, interestingly enough,

the republicans would disagree because the republicans kept saying don't worry, if you don't have health insurance, you'll get taken care of in the emergency room. you can't have it both ways here. i do agree with david about the length of the -- i kept -- i was with a group of people on -- actually onset on a television talk show and we all of course had to stop and watch the thing and we all fairly experienced in politics and saying where is jay carney saying thank you very much ladies and gentlemen? i was shocked. i don't know of a press secretary that would have let this go on like this for any president and it should have been cut off. david is right. let me come to david on that. i thought it was strange, it was like he was out there as a sitting duck wanting to take the harpoons coming his way but for what purpose? because nobody came away thinking okay, that sorted that then. >> well, i -- it's hard to explain. i think he feels very vulnerable. i think he feels humiliated. i agree with howard. i think for the most part he has been an honest president and

that's to his credits. what i disagree is his staff let him down. i'm sorry, but when you have the biggest issue of your presidency and you're the chief executive, howard was a governor. he knows this. he's run these kind of things. you're responsible. and you may -- he may not have had hard knowledge -- >> by the way, it wasn't howard dean like he just said it once and it was a slip of the tongue. >> no. >> he said it repeatedly and went on and on and on and on telling the american people, you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor. he must have known that neither of those things were true, and he must have known the reason he was selling it was to sell his program. >> no, i don't believe that about him. i just don't. i -- you know, people may say things and explain things. he's a very bright guy. i think everybody understands that. he had a lot of people explaining to them things. i think some of his experts weren't that great. some were terrific, some weren't.

my honest i opinion, i think kathleen sebelius didn't understand this. she got a lot of mumbo jumbo people explaining it and said things that were misleading. >> listen, i'm sorry, look, we had a variety of newspaper reports saying his staff did know. they had a big argument what he should say and how to describe this. the political people basically came down hard on you've got to make this very simple and very reassuring and that's the way we'll sell this program. i just do not believe that the president had no knowledge of that. it's so fundamental to the program about how you pay for this program. >> in terms of accountability, david, the president can say the buck stops with me. of course it does. this is the president and his major plan. why does he not fire kathleen sebelius? surely a head has to roll and she's the obvious head.

>> well, i believe in due course a head will roll. >> her head? >> i would assume at some discrete interval she will find a way to leave. i don't think they should humiliate her. i don't think it's hers. this is a white house that centralized power and taken power away from cabinet officers and put it in the white house and they didn't have the team. i think howard has a good point about the quality of the team to run it. the president has good people with him in his inner circle. the people from chicago are terrific but never brought in a heavy weight to run. if he brought in tom from the beginning, as i think he still should have done or howard dean could have been helpful. somebody was a heavy weight who understand management and politics. >> howard, let me ask you this, you're a doctor, do you think the fundamentally obama care is a good idea, and the problem is implantation or the problem is flawed? >> this is a doable idea.

the major problem here is that the website crashed. that was forseeable. i've been through a lot of tech rollouts when i was governor. my rule is it takes twice as much -- twice as long as they told you it would take. it would cost twice as much and you have to do it twice. >> let me question you. here is the problem, it's the president's credibility. when the watch the video of him just saying endlessly to the american people two complete forces, it is very damaging because you want to believe that guy. that's why he got elected. his poll numbers are 39%. putting it in perspective. that's 6% lower than the crack smoking mayor of toronto. [ laughter ] >> how bad is that? [ laughter ] >> i must say i was speechless at that one. what a press conference that was yesterday. holy cow. >> he's polling higher than the president. he's got a problem. david gurrigan, this is a big problem.

can presidents come back in the second term when the clock is ticking from a major fiasco? >> i think whether the program will work or not is highly problematic. we don't know. the question whether the president can come back in the second term, yes he can. he has time to do that. ronald reagan had contra early and bill clinton had monica lewinsky and got impeached and had -- >> i would say on that, though, one of those is a personal failing, albiet, one, this effects everyone in america someway. >> here is the difference, piers. in both cases, regan and clinton, their credibility was badly damaged by the incident, and they both came back.

it took a lot of work. the president has to make up for it. if he gets a growing economy and into a deal that is welcomed on all sides and maybe this thing works better over time, you know, his -- this will be an incident of the past but right now, i think you can say fairly he's been -- this damage to him has been devastating. i'm not sure it's fatal. >> let me put it in perspective for you two, more people, howard dean, more americans signed a petition to have me deported for my opposition to guns than have actually enrolled in obama care. now if that doesn't worry the president, what will? >> that should worry you, piers. [ laughter ] gentlemen, i have to live it there. i'll bring in david, the author of "barack obama, the story." you heard that, put it into historical context. how damaging is this and how

successfully can the president extricate himself from this mess? >> i think it's very damaging. i think he based his entire presidency on this single great initiative. he had more than three years to prepare for the rollout but i agree with david gurrigan it's not fatal. as he pointed out, when bill clinton issued his apology for monica lewinsky, it was not the low point yet to be impeached and like barack obama, the republicans were out to get bill clinton. they disliked him. president obama is facing that same problem, but he does have time to recover, and he has the benefit of the possibility of this plan actually working. he's got some time to work on that as well as his reputation. >> let's look at three bits of footage. the first one is the president yesterday issuing his mea culpa and more. let's watch these.

>> my expectation was that for 98% of the american, people, it generally wouldn't change at all or they would be pleasantly surprised with the options in the market place. and that the grandfather clause would cover the rest. that proved not to be the case. and that's on me. >> it is important to me that everybody who has been hurt know that the sorrow i feel is genuine. >> americans have every right to expect a more effective response in a time of emergency. when a federal government fails to meet such an obligation, i as president am responsible for the problem. >> there you have three mea culpas, very different, how difficult for the president when his own personal credibility is questioned.

when it looks like barack obama made a series of speeches telling forces to the american people over his project, has to be bad. >> the mea culpa is a ritual in american politics. in this case for president obama, i think the reason he dragged on and on yesterday, and a week ago the gettysburg address in 260 words and barack obama was clearing his throat at that point. nonetheless. barack obama knows whatever he says is completely overwhelmed by what happens, and i think he has trouble dealing with words when he knows deeds are more important. and that's when he tends to talk too much. >> how will this damage potentially hillary clinton's chances of winning a 2016 race if the democrats become associated with this

catastrophic obama care, which we assume it doesn't work at all, falls flat on it's face how does that impact hillary clinton, if at all? >> you're assuming hillary clinton will run and be the candidate and at this point, before 2008, nobody even knew about barack obama. so there is so much time. i think it's more clearly going to affect the elections next year and also, one possible larger impact, which is actually much more important than how it affects hillary clinton and that's how it affects liberal activist government. if this plan fails, it does great damage to that whole notion. >> david, thank you very much. one small bright spot for the president tonight, his message for bat kid, 5-year-old miles scott. the make a wish foundation is making his wish come true by letting him by batman for a day and the president send congratulations. >> way to go, miles. way to save gotham.

way to go, miles, way to save gotham. >> when we come back, one of president obama's backers, how he can win back the nation's trust. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer. be ready with children's motrin.

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>> let me be clear, when i said end of november, i did not say which november. >> he blamed himself and said quote, i'm not a perfect president. yeah. which explains why fox news today named him the employee of the month. >> president obama taking his lunch on the kings of late night. has the country lost faith. harvey winestien. nice to have you. >> thanks. >> when we talk you've been massively supported and i tend to agree with a lot on what you said. i find it difficult this obama care thing. when i see the repeated footage of him standing there saying you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. telling a porky pie. it's not the barack obama that i expected. do you feel any sense of disappointment? >> i think he said he made a mistake, but for me, i look at the idea behind it.

sometimes i know in my own industry, i can't execute. the movie doesn't come out perfectly, maybe we get it right later on. this man has compassion for 41 million americans who don't have insurance. why don't people say things like can we help you, as opposed to can we, you know, attack you? what's wrong with the country? >> robert was interesting about this. he came out and said obama's opponents are paralyzing the system and behaving stupidly and giving credit to the president for anything, taking out the point you just made. they will go against him. never mind it's the better good of the people or supposed to be in the office representing the interest of the public. they are representing their interest, there is a body of congressional people that want to paralyze the system and what sits under beneath it is probably racism involved to, which is awful. words accusing obama's opponents of being racist.

>> i think some of them are. >> you do? >> i do. this is unexplained otherwise. luckily for me i've been around the clinton administration and there wasn't this. >> wasn't there -- >> there was but it was much more folksy and gingrich could laugh and clinton could laugh back and they joked back and forth. it just looks like utter disdain for the president. it's ironic, i know we'll talk about mandela but i'll bring it up now. i screened the movie for the president. >> at the white house last week. >> mandela was his great hero. when you see this movie and mandela talks about leadership, he says look, i know what you want but i'm not going to do that. i'm going to do the tough thing because i'm your leader. they put him in prison for 27 years and he forgave them. this country has to start acting like they care about each other.

>> to a point i agree with what a lot of what you said. the point i don't, i think on this obama care thing, it's not so much technical problems with the rollout. that happens in big rollouts and i'm sure they will fix that. it's that repeated footage of him not just once but dozens of times telling american people, you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor when it looks like he knew all along that wasn't possible. it it was an out right falsehood and i can't remember him doing that so blatantly and i can't remember nelson mandela doing that. >> he made a mistake and i make mistakes and everyone else. let's reverse it. do you think if it was george w. bush who made the mistake, that obama would be beating on him every day? i don't think so. >> on course he would. >> you don't -- >> no, i don't -- >> you work -- >> [ overlapping speakers ] >> when enemies are vulnerable, you whack them.

>> when you're running for an election, you whack them. non-election, you roll up the sleeves. >> what was the mood like in the white house when you were there? >> they were excited to see the movie and of course, they were number one priority was helping affordable care and getting people care. i just really think people have lost the plot. >> actually i agree -- >> if they don't realize -- this is the only country in the world where we don't have health care. countries embarrass us around the world and this is the only country in the world we don't have a gun law. i watched you talk about that. quite frankly it's embarrassing. obama isn't embarrassing. the country is embarrassing. >> you can be like me on this, supportive on the principle like i am. you can support that, but you can also be irritated by the rollout failing because it may botch the whole thing but you can also be very, very angry that the president lied.

i mean, you can be all those things. >> he made a mistake. he's human. he made a mistake. >> let's move on. >> let's move on. >> let me take your advice. let's move onto the mandela movie. >> good advice. >> let's watch a clip because i'm excited. i have cherished the idea of a free democratic society where all live together in harmony with equal opportunities. it is an idea i hope to live for and achieve, but if need be, it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. >> very powerful and getting fantastic buzz this movie as it should because it's a great tribute to the extraordinary man. he's clearly, we haven't seen him in public for a long time. his legacy he's the ultimate bipartisan politician in man,

wasn't he? he could have come out of prison and carnage opponents, he went the other way. >> you see his wife and others saying we have the upper hand. we can do what we want. we can take this country. we have the guns. we have the people. we don't have to go to the bargaining table and mandela was, i forgive them. we have to sit down, nothing works unless we work together. >> is that the real problem in america right now in terms of the government and congress and everything put together, nobody is thinking that way? all they are thinking about is damaging each other. >> yeah, that's the terrible thing about politics today. that's why governors are looking good out there, you know, in terms of because they deal with it on an executive level and day don't have the fighting of a terrible congress. >> can you enjoy the work of someone like chris christie even though he's on the other side? >> i love him.

he said wait until i win my governor race and a year from now we'll be on opposite sides again. >> hollywood seems to be lining up for hillary clinton. you're a fan, will you stump the lines. >> anything mrs. clinton asks me to do, i'll do because i think she represents the best path for 2016. as great as governor christie is, more seasoning would do him a world of good, too, and more foreign experience in foreign affairs. he could be an excellent secretary of state under president clinton. >> nicely put harvey, nicely stabbed in the back. >> let's come back and talk about the films getting oscar buzz and also ahead, in this case -- nick cannon with a bit of advice for the commander in chief. announcer: you're on the right track

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weeks after hurricane sandy, they gathered a whose who for music and entertainment at madison square guard ton raise funds. bruce springstene, paul mccartney and the rolling stones led the way. the 12/12/12 concert raised money and a year later harvey is releasing a behind the scenes documentary. let's take a look. >> every single person on my ipod and every single person i loved, it's just like everyone coming together and just like putting on the best show they can possibly put on.

it's a crazy night. it's something i'll never forget. >> harvey is back with me and john sikes joins us. what a night. incredible show. what was it like to be behind the scenes with legends? >> what is great is harvey and i were running around doing 50 other things and the cameras were capturing everything else. what you did see was these artists getting together, the biggest artist who headline the garden by themselves lined up working together, no egos, nothing, just basically to put on a great show, and to see them come together back stage was something that you never see as a viewer or as a fan in the audience and when harvey and i and jim who produced it saw the footage, you got to show people what went into this paul mccartney rehearsing back stage, things you never see on the other side made it interesting. >> what i read is bob's book about live aid and how he put that together, what was clear is that egos run riot with these things because they cause so

exposed to the world and battle for positions. obviously that goes on. how do you control that? >> we've done the two biggest concerts probably indoors ever and we've done the same thing both times. reach for paul mccartney because no band says i'm going to close the show. they know paul mccartney is a beatle, which i guess makes him equal to prince william or king phillip. >> winston churchill. >> winston churchill. >> that resolves the issue, who is the top dog. >> if we didn't have paul, we would be there still figuring out who closed. seriously, we would be there. it would be bad, ugly, horrifying. >> but bruce springsteen had the greatest response. he has the greatest response for paul. he said i'll open. >> when one band would finish, everyone would go out to watch the next one. every single one of these artists had sold out the garden.

you would see alisha keys looking out, getting a look at eddie getting a look with rogers waters, i've never seen any of these. they are amazing. i'm nervous being around these artists. >> that's the difference between this movie than the concerts. you go wow, he played my favorite song. this is about the scandalous adam sandler or chris rock or james or a backstage pass like no one has ever seen. >> in terms of money, harvey, huge amounts have been raised. more will be raised from the movie, as well. how is it being used? >> robin hood eats it. the charity director made a million dollars and husband cousin got some and paid for dry cleaning. you raise 50, 50 goes to the street. >> this event happened on 12/12/12. within six weeks 50 million on the street gone distributed. if you were homeless, within two

days you were in a shelter. if you didn't have food, within three days you were eating. without going through red tape, robin has an amazing way of getting the money out. >> i wish -- unfortunately, all it does is starkly reminds you the difficulty of the place in the philippines with the typhoon ravageding there. haiti and others, harvey, let's talk about oscars because there is that time in your gearing up for your normal battle plan to win as many as possible. how many have you won now? >> 92 oscars. >> just 92. quite incredible. let's watch the movie called "august ossage county." sean penn was raving about. >> we give breaks to young, you know, talent and we decided to let meryl streep and julia roberts do this movie.

this streep girl i think has a future, and roberts, too, by the way and i think people are saying it's two of the greatest performances. >> family drama. >> family drama. this movie is a comedy, believe it or not and when you see it, it will make you feel good about your own family, no matter how dysfunctional they are. nothing can be as bad as the westons. they are at each other's throats. when you see julia roberts choking meryl streep. >> julia roberts choking meryl streep. thanks for coming in. all provides of 12/12/12 will benefit the film and check out mandela, august, ossage county, there are so many as usual, harvey. good to see you both. another of president obama supporters, nick cannon and mariah carey. [ male announcer ] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion,

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nick, are you able to just take off that ridiculously expensive watch? yeah, all right. great, take that off for us. i promise we'll be very careful with it. very careful and place it over here very carefully. great. >> oh my god. >> nick, here is your watch. >> a young good looking and talented in hollywood, so few of us left. nick cannon is with me, in audition to hosting "americas got talent" his own men's ties at macy's and sold nearly $45 million worth of monster headphones and has a new album entitled "white people party music." wow. how are you? [ laughter ] >> good to see you old chap. >> first of all, if you're wondering, i'll apologize for wearing this tie, it's one of cannons. >> you look presidential. >> show me your shoes. >> this is why i have a problem

with your fashion. >> what the hell are you wearing? >> these are christian louis vuitton. >> very few people can pull these off. >> you're not one of them. >> you're launching the halo award. is that a joke? >> no. >> you halo? >> helping and leading others. it's a true positive thing we do each and every year and this is the fifth year we're doing it with team nick and nickelodeon. >> i'll tell you why i like it. >> thank you. >> some of these award events make me nauseous because it's back slapping each other. >> kissing each other's butts. >> yes. >> for young people that have done something inspiring. >> yes, we take celebrities and corporations and shine the spotlight on the teenagers and community making the world a better place and connect them together. it's outstanding because anybody can halo. anybody can help and lead one

another, and it's all about creating the halo effect and this year we have josh hutchinson, queen latifah, and others. >> let's watch a clip. >> congratulations, give it up for denzel. [ applause ] >> love what you're doing with the philadelphia urban creators and we want to further that mission and hook you up with $10,000. >> i forget how much you shout. >> when i get excited i talk loud, giving that kid $10,000. >> discuss proper issues. i want to talk about president obama. >> okay. because i'm not happy with him, right? >> okay. >> because i think this obama care thing has been a mitigated disaster and i want to know what you think -- >> do you think -- >> are you a big supporter of him? >> yes. >> you played at the inaugurations and so on. he has the lowest ever approval ratings. he's let people down with this. >> now do you think he has personally let down or do you believe the system has let people down?

that would be my question. >> the system failed but when you watch the repeated clips of him saying you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor, and it turns out actually you can't, that's a bare faced fib. >> this is the thing, i think our president initially when elected he signed on with the best intentions. i mean, when you think about giving everyone in america free health care, that idea is amazing. >> right. >> when you dig deep into it and find out it's a lot more difficult than that, and i believe -- i wish one day we can have that and i feel like we'll work to that but because there is so many things and so many others that don't want us to have that, there's been a lot of glitches. >> see, i agree. in my country we have free health care. >> it works. >> he wants people in america to have that. >> was it always that way? there ever a transitional period. >> it was brought in. >> i'm pretty sure when it was first brought in you had to work through the glitches. i think ultimately, the idea

that president obama is presenting is the idea that will eventually help everyone, but it's going to take a minute for us to get used to. >> if you were in a room with him now. >> yes. >> knowing how unpopular he is with the approval ratings at the moment, what would you say for the last part of his tenure. >> haters are help and we don't argue with the help. that's what i would say to him. honestly, he's been one of the people that i look to when -- because i know he has so much pressure on him and he handles it so well, and i ultimately would say continue to do your job. i mean -- >> what does it say about washington, that they can just shut down a government. what do you feel as such a hard working american? >> it was hard for me. >> don't you feel sickened? >> especially when something can come to a stalemate like that. i was disappointed in the system. that's not the first time i've been disappointed in the system. it's more of a game of cat and

mouse, where you're from you can ultimately have two opposing ideas but the ideas to come together in the middle and everybody else is served in that sense. we stay on these poll rising factors and never get anything done and that's been unfortunate to me and disappointing about, you know, the last or i would say these eight years we're going through now. >> let's take a break and come back and talk about your wife. >> all good things, better watch out, man, i know you got a crush on my lady. >> actually, it's the other way around. >> there you go. [ laughter ] [ male announcer ] if you can clear a crowd but not your nasal congestion, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®.

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>> real husbands of hollywood and i'm back with one, nick cannon being known particularly by me as mr. mariah carey. >> i could be called worst things it's an honor, man. mariah, that's my dream girl. to be able to marry and have children with the woman of my dreams, it's outstanding. >> some people said it wouldn't last. but unfortunately it has lasted. >> you're waiting for your opportunity. >> yes, like a vulture. >> what's the secret to a successful, very high profile marriage? >> not to take yourself too seriously and actually enjoy each other as much as you possibly can. that's why people get together. we try to celebrate one another as much as possible and have fun. it makes us so much easier when you have children as well. every day there's something new that we can do together as a family. and we just have a great time.

>> have you ever been like properly in love before you met mariah? >> i'm a hopeless romantic. i thought i was in love until i had the real thing. >> what made you know this was the real thing? >> there's a bit of fantasy and fairytale that goes along with that we all dream of. then to know you have a connection and you're equally yolked with someone where you have the same values, same spirituality, then the same sense of humor. you could be in the middle of a heated debate and then the funniest thing happens and nothing else matters. that's constant. it's been that way since day one, and it's still that way today. so i've never been in a situation like this. >> you have a new show time comedy special. i love the title of this. >> yeah. you say it all the time. >> i used to say it a lot. let's look at a clip from a show called [ mute ] nick cannon. >> as soon as you have children you instantly change. it's so true. it happened to me in the delivery room i changed!

i did. my daughter came out first. i instantly became overprotective. as soon as i seen her beautiful face, oh, my god, i'm responsible for her. i have to protect her. i'm the man in her life. all of a sudden the doctor just rushed her off into the nursery. hey, man, where the held you going with my daughter! >> if i said you could only do one thing for the rest of your life, radio show, tv like "america's got talent" or standup comedy, which one would you do for the rest of your life? >> for the rest of my life standup comedy. >> that's the real soul of nick cannon. >> that's where i started, hopefully where i'll finish. obviously you showed a very clean clip of the special. but to get on a stage. >> why is it called [ mute ] nick cannon? >> because that's what -- >> what everyone says to you when they see you? >> it's unapologetic. i say what the haters say. that's the beauty of the standup stage.

dave chapelle was the first person to make that term go global from his chapelle know. but from that term, it's like it's one of those things, i don't care what you think about me. this is my opinion, my take on life. if you don't like it then f you, too. there it is. >> nick cannon, it's always good to see you. a number of projects as always. comedy special premiers this saturday, november 16th on showtime. >> yes. >> the halo awards air on sunday on nick at night. auditions for the ninth season of "america's got talent". not quite as good a show as it used to be in the glory days. >> we miss you. >> auditions are happening now so do apply. always good to see you. love the shoes. >> thank you. love the tie.

it's paralyzing when you hear those words "your child has cancer." i know what those families are going through. it's extremely difficult. my son, he was diagnosed with cancer. it was such a horrifying time. we were fortunate we had rides to the hospital to bring emilio. many families don't have that support. we found out that many of them were missing appointments. my name is richard. no child should miss their cancer treatment due to lack of transportation. there you go. all right. >> we give over 2,000 rides a year. our furthest cancer patient is 120 miles. ride with emilio plays an important part of their treatment. we get them here in a nice, clean environment and on time. >> we live here.

it's every day. treatment. we want to fight. we're in this together. that's all i care right now, my daughter's life. >> you fighting for your child's life, nothing else matters. >> they pick us up in the morning and give us a ride back. they'll help us every step of the way. >> 70% of our families are spanish speaking. having a bilingual staff is extremely important. i feel like it's my obligation to help them navigate the system. >> take good care of yourself. >> yeah. >> from someone who's been there. even though he passed away almost 13 years, he's the main force of this. and i feel that i'm the right person to help.

monday night i'll talk to ann romney. a lot has changed in the romney family. she talks about that and she doesn't mince her words when it comes to president obama and his health care mess. >> he's put himself in a very sticky place, because you either have to think that he was not telling the truth or he's grossly incompetent. either one of those choices is not a good choice. >> which side are you leaning towards? >> i think a little bit of both. >> you think he lied. >> i don't think he was telling the truth. >> it's the same thing, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, that's harsh for me to say that.

and i think that's where his real problem is going to be. >> ann romney on politics, family and her new cookbook. you can hear her monday morning on cnn's "new day" beginning at 6:00. she sits down with me right here monday night 9:00 eastern. that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. good evening. i'm anderson cooper reporting tonight live from manila. thanks for joining us on this edition of "ac 360." this is day eight since supertyphoon haiyan hit this region and has devastated much of the philippines in the south. a lot of coastal communities. you have been witnessing what we have been seeing over the last several days. it's easy to think that by day eight with all the aid that's coming with the increasing improvements and the way it's being distributed it's easy to think that the worst is over. but for many people on the ground, the nightmare continues. there is still a lack of food,