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you can put whatever word you want before "bomb bth but it was a bomb. the nuclear button, just like that they changed an almost 40-year-old senate rule. the republicans went on the war path and dana bash begins our coverage outfront from capitol hill. >> reporter: democrats say will help fix a broken system. >> it is time to change the senate before this institution becomes obsolete. >> reporter: and republicans argue will make washington gridlock worse. >> puts a chill on the entire united states senate. >> reporter: senate democrats voted to lower the threshold to break a filibuster from 60 votes to 51 votes. it strips the minority's party ability to block. it is called the nuclear option for good reason. a few years ago even democratic leader harry reid said he would not to it saying it would be -- >> a black chapter in the history of the senate. >> reporter: what about now? >> things have changed

dramatically since 2005. dramatically. for the flat, the last four and a half years, they have done everything they can to deny the fact that obama was elected and then reelected. >> reporter: translation, gop obstruction is unprecedented. to back pup, democrats point to statistics from the nonpartisan congressional research service. in the history of the country there have been 168 filibusters of presidential nominees. about half, 82, happened turk the obama administration. >> in summary, this is a power grab. >> reporter: angry republicans don't necessarily dispute democrats' statistics about nominees they have blocked. inted they point to how many judges they have confirmed. 215, and rejected five. the president who opposed to their tag particular as a senator changed his tune. >> the vote today is an indication that a majority believe that enough is enough. >> reporter: when it comes to the fight that democrats call the last straw over vacancies in

the d.c. circuit court of appeal, the republican leader argues, democrats are manufacturing a crisis to distract from the obama care debacle. >> a fake fight over judges that are not even needed. >> reporter: democrats say that they get that this landmark change that they pushed through in the rules of the senate benefits them now that they're in the majority but could really hurt them the day that they become the minority party in the senate them say it is a risk that they really have to take in order to change what they call continued obstructionism. >> thank you very much. and an important point there that she makes. "outfront," paul begala and talk show host, michael, i'm really forward to this conversation. let me start with what dana just said. why would you do this? at the very least it comes back to bite you in the proverbial tail when the other party comes back into power. >> it is. why are they doing it? people generally don't act again

their own self-interests. and i was on the hill tafrl met with senator reid. they know the republican there's one day take office again. it has been so abused, the filibuster. it can be a very good thing. it compels bipartisanship. it does enhance the rights of minorities. they can't take it anymore and they're willing, they know hair handled thing a weapon to the majority. the statistic dana cited, it is unbelievable. it is true that in 2005, you saw him. harry reid, barack obama. you can find that tape of senator obama. >> i'm going to play it in a second. >> that's what has changed. they've taken a tool that i think in our history has at times been very useful, at times very abused. they've abused it in an everyday fashion so we can't even run the government and that's one of the reasons congress's approval rating is 9%. >> and what do you make about

that point? paul is being very rational. he is pointing out, if half the filibusters in american history have happened during the obama administration, that is pretty awful. that would seem to justify a nuclear option like this. >> but it is a distorted statistic. and if you take a look at political fact, they will point out there were ten different bush administration appellate court judges febled by democrats. and they had a longer time waiting on average to get an up and down vote for bush judges than obama has. 2.6%. that is the number of the total appointments of 1584 appointments by the obama administration. 97.4% have been approved. they are taking office today. there are only four who were voted down. 38 that with drew because they were opposed. this is not obstructionist. this is a divide government right now.

and this is terribly destructive. what strikes me is why it was that senator mccain couldn't get any democratic support for his attempt to get another gang of 14. to come to a reasonable agreement. to say okay, we'll let a few of these nominations that are contested come up for votes but let's preserve the rules of the senate. the fact that that didn't happen this time, that to me is a tragedy and a failure for both parties. >> which may be absolutely true. i have to say all of these group of, fill in the blanks. you can forgive people for being skeptical since everyone of them has failed. that doesn't mean should you keep trying. what about this point that both of you have acknowledged. democrats felt very different when they were in the minority. you mentioned president obama being one of the people who spoke out. let me play him along with others. >> some in this chamber want to throw out 214 years of senate history in the quest for absolute power. >> if they choose to change the

rules and put an end to democratic debate, then fighting and the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse will. >> if you can't get 60 votes for a nominee, maybe you should think about who you're sending to us to be confirmed. >> this nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. and i pray god when the democrats take back control, we don't make the kind of naked power grab you are doing. >> i love joe biden. somehow he always says it like it is, paul. that right there, it does make today look like the ultimate hypocrisy. >> well, if today was the first day of barack obama's term. these folks, i've talk to senator reid about this. they did not want to do this. harry reid, he worked his way through law school as a cop in the capitol building. he spent 30 years of his life in that institution. he reveres that institution. he used to say this all the

time. when people would say to reform the filibuster. he would say we have to change the culter. the culture has changed for the worse, not the better. a lot of these republican senators would probably like to vote for the qualified nominees. they can't to it because they're so cowed by the tea party you can hear them moo. so there was no choice here. so you think this justifies the hypocrisy for real? >> it is not hip okayypocrisy. >> could you name for me who are the major appointments that were blocked for purely political reasons? because they haven't been there. sonja sotomayor confirmed with republican support. elaina kagan to the united states of the supreme court. confirm with republican support. and again, the record is very clear. there have been only 42 of more than 1,500 overall appointees that failed to get confirmed by the senate.

this is a red herring and i do believe what senator mcconnell said today is absolutely correct. this is an attempt to change the subject from the disastrous roll youft obama care. what has plunged democratic approval ratings to new lows. it won't help grid lock. it will make grid lock that much worse and i think it is a dark day for the senate. >> first off, mel watt is a haley qualified ten-year member of the house committee. >> i would agree. >> they're blocking him for political reasons. one of the thing that i think pushed this over the edge is that mitch mcconnell has publicly said if and when the republicans take control of the senate, they will repeal the filibuster. senator mcconnell has said that. and i think democrats take him at his word. >> i like how it comes back to bite you in the proverbial tail. they'll pay the price on both sides for this one. thank you to both of you. still to come, the republicans plan revealed. we have a copy of the 18-page play book.

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phillip chism of murder, ag aggravated rape. don lemon was up in massachusetts where this happened and he is "outfront" with the latest. this story captured the country's attention just because of the bizarre, horrific nature of it. remime us what happened and what we're learning. >> it gets more horrific. if that can even happen. what we're learning, i'll tell you what happened. on october 22nd, he was in school. according to people who were there. he wasn't paying attention in class. and so miss ritzer kept him after school to make sure to try to help him. and then apparently she had to go to the bathroom. the bathroom was locked. she goes into the second floor student bathroom. he follows her in and that's when prosecutors say he killed her. that's when they believe he killed her. but they're saying tonight that he raped her and they're charging her with aggravated rape.

that is a new develop many in this case. they're saying it is aggravated because they believe she suffered really almost mortal bodily, serious injuries during that rape or they charged with that that happen in the commission of another crime which is in the process of being murdered. so this is a felony charge as well. he is being charged as a juvenile with that charge. they're trying to, prosecutors are trying to charge him as an adult. also charged with robbery. they had the box cutter. they believe he stole her iphone, her credit cards and her underwear. and then he change clothes and then he went about town as you and i reporting to the movies as if nothing happened. >> it is so gruesome and horrific to imagine. what is her family saying tonight? >> i remember going, you know when you have to go knock on someone's door. you have to, right? i wanted to find out what

services and how they were feeling and i wanted to respect them. i knocked on the door. they were a very nice family and them we appreciate you coming over. we're going on release some information soon. and they said but aware holding up. that's the only time i've heard them speak. they released a statement saying we are devastated and heart broken by the details of the horrific circumstances surrounding the death of our beautiful daughter and sister colleen we continue to mourn her passing and ask that the media almost our privacy during this very difficult time. >> it is incredible how gracious they've been. you can't imagine what that would ever be like. >> it gets more horrific as we say. now there's rape involved and there is also robbery as well. >> thank you very much, don. we appreciate it. our third story "outfront" is racism at san jose state university. three white students charged with a hate crime after horrific allegations from their african-american roommate. here's what prosecutors are saying happened thax saying the

three defendants tried to put a bike lock around the neck of the 17-year-old freshman and then told him they lost the keys. they taunted almost by calling him 3/5s. students know that's a way the american government used to count black people. and they deck trade college dorm sweep with the confederate flag, nazi symbols and other racial epithets. "outfront," jeff rosen. this is a, has the bizarre story. i can't believe we're actually talking about this happening in 2013 in the united states of america. this sounds like it would have happened in the 1960s during the civil rights era or something even a century before. what else can you tell us happened? >> first, i agree with you. i can't believe that in the year 2013, we're talking about an african-american student being treated this way who had his residence, the dorm room after all was his residence, turned into this horrible atmosphere of hate where he was subjected to

these horrible slurs and then physically assaulted as a result of them. so we're taking this case very seriously in the district attorney's office. we've charged the three young men involved with battery as well as a hate crime allegation to represent that a substantial factor in their actions was motivated by the fact that this young man was african-american. >> how long did this go on before anyone found out about it? and was it, you're talking about three students here that are being charged. what about anyone else? did anyone else know? anyone in any position of authority that could have done something? >> sadly, this went on first of all for several weeks. for actually two to three months. there were other people that knew about this. there were eight men, eight young men that were living in this four bedroom dormitory suite that shared a common area. so three of these men will be charged with crimes. the other four were aware of this and were not upstanders.

did not stand up and do what's right here. and that allowed this conduct to continue. in fact, the victim's parents, when they came to visit him once in early october, they saw the confederate flag themselves saw the n word scrawled on a dry erase board and they will the young man in the dorm room, this is not acceptable. you need to stop doing this. and instead of doing that, the young men wrote a threatening note to the victim in the case saying you know, you've been invited to join our group and if you don't do it, bad things are going to happen to you. >> so there is one report that at least one of the defendants, one of the people you've charged downplayed it and said it was just jokes and pranks. thing that might sound horrible to other people but if you're on the inside, it is somehow going to be acceptable. is it in any way possible from what you understand, that that could have been the case? when you look at the young man who was targeted here. >> absolutely not. the young man who was targeted

here and who on a number of occasions was barricaded in his room on one occasion, the three men wrestled him to the ground and put a bike lock around his neck. and on another occasion tried to do it again. and the young man was able to fight them off. the young man, theville in this case was terrorized. it was difficult for him to study. he locked his door at night because he was afraid they would come in and hurt him. he tried to spend as little time as possible in the dorm room. he told them not to do this to them. he told them not to call him this offensive nickname, the three fifths so instead they started calling him fraction. >> on that note, thank you very much. we look forward to feedback from all of you. from three fifths to fraction. still to come, a dangerous takeoff. a jinl cargo plane forced to use runway that's half a mile too forceful plus a surprising announcement from the fcc. the one i've been waiting for for it feels like my whole life. what passengers could soon do

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>> they say it is safe. >> we know it's safe. of that there's no doubt. there are people who say it will interfere with the plane and make it crash. >> no, no, no. there is an antenna in the roof of the aircraft, several of them and that stops the cell signal from become too powerful. your cell phone latches on to that and it is perfectly safe. it was done in europe for a while. they've got clients all over the place who are doing it. this is not a technology issue. has the sociological issue. >> which brings me to the point. on emirates, an example here. you sometime hear people on the phone talking about completely irrelevant silly thing and there is nowhere to go. you have to listen to the whole conversation. and it's awful. but i want cell phones on the plane. how do i prevent that? >> there is a difference between connectivity and telephoning. what you want is the former and

what there maybe is the latter. people who are really against this are the flight attendants. they're ones who have to argue, to be referees with passengers who say they're too much noise. >> passenger will get in fights about this. no question about it. tonight's "outfront" vote. @richard quest, yes or no. cell phones on planes. >> i'm wondering how this will go. i'm dying for this. >> you're a hypocrite. >> i am. a i do relish the fact nobody can reach me. you can all go to hell. all right. >> so i said to her, there is no way i'm going to do this. it is clearly going to be -- i'm on the phone. can't you see? >> that's it. goodbye to richard. still to come, a recollectiony takeoff. a 747 lands on a runway. i don't know how it did that

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but we'd really like our truck back, so if you see it, let us know, would you? thanks. what? welcome back to the second half of "outfront." elaborate precautions taken at a wichita, kansas airport today. the plane handled at the wrong airport. and the pilot, this is what really amazes me about this. the cargo boeing 747, people, going to a major american military base. the pilot did not even know he land in the wrong place. >> confirm you know which airport you are at? >> well, i think we have a pretty good pulse. >> say again? >> we saw the plane on the

raidar and it appears you are at jabbara airport. >> say the name again? >> that pilot was lucky. it seem that 747 didn't have a whole lot of weight in it. because he handled on a runway that was half a mile too short . because of this runway problem, the takeoff attempt was risky. roads were closed. people were told to stay away. the plane did take off and it handed without incident where i was should have been in the first place but investigators are investigating how that could have happened and how the pilots didn't know where they landed. democrats go from nuclear bomb to gut bomb after a morning at the white house. vice president joe biden treated some colleagues to capriattis, a hoagie chain in downtown

washington. here's the thing. it seem that joe biden, the second post more youful man in the country, didn't have the money. >> $56.25. >> all right. randy, you got $10? i got $50. no, no. i'm not taking that. >> are you sure? >> i've been coming here for the last 40 years. i have paid every time i've gone. in delaware, you pay. >> well, it seems they like getting a start on thanksgiving. his favorite sub is apparently called the bobby. turkey, cranberry sauce and stuffing. which according to fat secret.com, i guess you know where they're coming from, packs 992 calories. that's all right. it is thanksgiving. our fifth story "outfront." the republican attack plan revealed of there is an 18 page guide. talking points, messaging tip and fact sheets. i've got it. it is very fancy. all kinds of colors, very well

put together. brianna got a copy of the play book and she is "outfront." >> a how to guy for turning the troubled health care website into a political weapon. cnn obtained house republican think play book for their party's detailed plan of attack. glossy ads and suggested talking points with one focus. what republicans see as democrats' cheap vulnerable built. >> you know the president promised the american people that if you like your health care plan, you can keep it. but for richard in springfield, ohio, a town in my district, that's not true. >> the play book advises republicans to tell their could not is it the wenlts fewer people will get covered. premiums are increasing. millions of americans will lose the plan they have and like. members are already could go just that. >> every day we hear heart-wrenching stories from americans who are getting letters about their health care plans getting canceled. >> young adults are now witnessing the increase in health care costs. >> it is taking away our health

care plans. >> if frustrating democrats and president obama is their aim, republicans are succeeding. >> one of the problems we've had, one side of capitol hill is invested in failure. >> reporter: the real measure for president obama is his administration's own goal that the website should be operating smoothly for the vast majority of americans by the end of the month. something they say they're still on track to accomplish. erin? >> rins priebus is the chairman of the republican national committee. joining me now. good to have you with us, cheryl. here's the play book. i'm holding it up ufrl heard the talking points. one of them was that fewer people are getting covered. and when i was through talking points, the play book, it says, that the administration promised as many as 30 million people would get insurance through obama care and now they're only promising 7 million people getting the coverage. so i talked on jason, the chairman of the koings of economic advisers and i asked

about that specific talking point. and pep 30 million target is over time. the 7 million is by the end of next year. these numbers are apples and oranges. that talking point doesn't add up. what do you say? >> well, look. they're doing what i think as political strategists have to do. they have to start lowering expectations and very quickly. we know what they're doing. but it is not going on change the narrative. the president made very specific promises as to access, as to doctors, as to affordability. and none of that is coming true. i know it is early. but the diagnosis doesn't look good in the future either. so you know, we're talking about this every day. and as far as i'm concerned, if it is obama care, they're losing and we're winning. >> but that's an interesting narrative there. sort of the winning and losing. the white house did formally respond today to this play book. the spokesman eric schultz weigh in the issuing a statements that

reads, for the past five years republicans have been obsessed with sabotaging obama care themselves tried to block it, repeal it, overturn it, they shut down the government over it. it is 18 pages longer than their health care plan. and the president has said this about his health care plan. >> i've said many times, i am willing to work with anyone on any idea to make this the law perform even better. >> this is the question, isn't it? you talk about your winning and their losing, isn't the whole point that you would want to fix this bill? maybe it is not good. but make it better instead of killing it? >> well, that's what upton and ryan johnson and all the rest of the republicans tried to do the other day, erin. and they won't take it up in the senate. and yeah. you're right. we've been obsessed with obama care because it stinks. people don't want it. why wouldn't we be obsessed over killing off something the

american people don't like, that is costing them more money. they're losing their insurance. of course. i think we should be proud to be obsessed to get rid of obama care. as far as the president listening to all of these ideas, erin, come on. he didn't listen to our ideas on christmas eve about junk lawsuits and pooling resources and open pricing that would drive down prices and allow more access. he didn't listen to anything themselves drove through obama care themselves did it without us. and now we're seeing what a mess it is. so yeah, we're obsessed because it is horrible. >> you're obsessed. but again i ask the question on this. schultz had a point, right? emyour 18 pages of tike obama care is 18 pages longer has not the gop health care plan. where is the -- >> listen. i think it should be 1,800 pages. 18 is too little for how bad this thing is. come on. we've had hundreds of bills and proposals. but there are many simple things that we've proposed.

and i just outlined them so i won't take up your time on the air with this but clearly we've never tried open pricing in this country. we've never seen what would happen if we had open pricing. we've never allowed individuals and small businesses to pool their resources together to have more accessibility. lower prices. and we've talked about junk lawsuits for how many years in this country. and we have proposed it and proposed it. so come on. these are things that we've been proposing for years but they don't want to work with us. so guess what? we'll tattoo obama care their foreheads and we'll beat them with it next year. and we're going to do it. >> one person that is supposedly on your side on this is new jersey governor chris christie. i say supposedly on your side because at this point he is perceived as the front-runner for the republican nomination. everyone is talking about. >> 2016 is a long way away. and i'm two weeks out of a campaign.

i'm not looking to start speculating about other campaigns already. we've got 2014 to deal with. that's what we'll deal with will. >> that's how he talks but his new job as the republican governors association, he'll be traveling the campaign trail and he'll get to do it the next year. putting him in the cat bird seat. i asked rand paul about christie this week on the show. he said he is not fiscally conservative. due to his decision on accept the expansion of medicaid, is senator paul right? is chris christie going to be shunned by people like you because he has he will braced obama care? >> listen, erin, you're very good. and i know you want to get me in the middle of this. i'm not going to. i'm the chairman of the party. i'm for all of them. i'm for ranld and i'm for governor christie. and all these governors have to make different decisions based on their own states. but that's the point. federalism is an important

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beeshler. we're about our outer circle. to japan we go. a volcano eruption has created a totally new island. i asked pauline about this new patch of territory. >> reporter: a volcanic eruption has given birth to a new island off the coast japan. the japanese coast guard reported seeing thick black smoke and rocks spewing from the volcano. the new island is about 200 meters in diameter. it is the newest in a chain of islands running along the seismically active ring of fire. there is no guarantee it will stay there. in the past, islands formed like this have been known to disappear as soon as they saw daylight. the new handled is about 1,000 kilometers south of tokyo. erin? >> thanks very much. i want to check in with anderson with a look at what's coming up. >> that's cool. a new island. was it accident or murder? with 36 surveillance cameras around a high school in georgia where their son was found dead

inside a rolled up gym mat, the parents have been trying to get that question answered. they believe it was murder. does the surveillance tape provide answers? in our two-part investigationering with asked an exfbi instructor to go over the hours and hours of tape. he will tell you what he found. also ahead, the story behind these images. jackie kennedy in the pink suit with the that i will box hat. you know what happened. what you may not know is what happened to that famous outfit. where it is and why it is locked away and will be for a long time to come. those stories tonight. >> we're looking forward to seeing that. now our sixth story, america's longest war not ending. american forces were scheduled to leave afghanistan by the end of the year. a new deal with the afghan government could keep american fighters in that country for another decade or even longer. and the people fighting that war, right now, according to the congressional research service, and i looked that up yesterday, 20% of those in combat are

private contractors. it is a new era in american warfare and the man who started it is eric prince. the founder of blackwater. now synonymous with the war on terror. he has just released his own account. civilian warriors, the inside story. i talk to him about al qaeda, benghazi and the business of war. if blackwater was still operating like it was when you founded it, if things had not happened the way they happened, working with the cia, with the dod, would things be different for americans overseas? >> i'll pretty confident. if we had been on benghazi, the u.n. ambassador would still be alive doing almost 100,000 missions between iraq and afghanistan. no one under our care ever killed or injured. i think we could have kept him alive as well. >> that was known as a ceo outpost. there were supposedly guys very well trained. >> the ambassador was killed at a consulate. at a state department facility. and there is more and more

evidence coming out today that the security officers they had didn't fight, i guess, as they are trained or supposed to. the locals turned and fled. and you know, contractors who tried to rush in and do what they could. >> the former seal contractors there for the agency at the annex violated their superior's instructions and went to the consulate and thank goodness they did that. >> tie woods and glen -- >> yeah. they performed so far and above the call of duty. they are brave and saved many americans that day. >> there are reports, i've heard them, you've heard them, al qaeda, the president obviously has repeatedly in some form or another said al qaeda is on the run. he said it before benghazi and

after, do you believe that? >> it's certainly into smaller cells. they don't have the, i guess, central headquarters in pakistan like they used to in 9/11 but certainly, there is anywhere where groups of five, eight, ten can get together. they can plan and conduct terror operations. so it's -- it's not something really for large standing armies to go after. it's more intelligence and small operations war. >> some people look at you and say, all right, this guy's career is about fighting. it's about training but doing them for money which makes some feel uncomfortable when they talk about the security of the united states. the patriotism of that. let me put it directly, are you fighting for the united states or fighting for the highest bidder. >> in the early '70s at the time

the u.s. was going to an all volunteer force and wes moore land didn't want to lead morse narcoticries because they were going to be volunteers and paid instead of being drafted and milton freed men's response was then i'm served by a mercenary barber and chef. an american working for america by the oxford definition doesn't mean mercenery. we pay people, if not it's core horgs and you're a slave and if people want to trash the idea of a merconary. across the the white house is the park and kusko bridge in new york. these are professional military officers, mersonaries, if you

will, patriots in the word of inat the pen dense. >> what does the word patriot mean to to you? >> someone who answers the call to the country. >> is edward snowden a patriot? >> i don't know if it's a patriot. it was a public service to raise the issue which is real government over reach and lack of oversight to pay attention as to how far and easily the government collects all this information on individual americans. again, you have to be careful of not trading lib early for the illusion of security. >> as you hear from so many people he cost american lives now and he will in the future, he's jeopardizing programs that keep america safe, whether what the nsa is doing or who it's listening to. do you believe in that or is that again, hyperbole? >> i have skepticism when it comes to those climbs. >> we'll have more coming up.

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and doing it from one of the toughest prison in the united states. laurie segall is out front with tonight's idea. this is sangui quinton pris. thieves, murders, aspiring entrepreneurs. >> i'm the founder and ceo of funky union. >> reporter: welcome to the last mile. >> same question. >> reporter: that's chris, a long with his wife bev he had the idea to start a program to do what many tech entrepreneurs do, solve a problem. >> in california we spend more for prison than higher education. >> reporter: more than 60% of california prisoners released end up back behind bars within three years, one reason they can't find work. so like many others in the bay area, these inmates are becoming tech entrepreneurs. they study social media and entrepreneur ship. behind bars they are learning to

build modern day businesses and pitch their product. >> you can subscribe to our premium service. >> reporter: not just to chris and bev but venture captioning provided in part by a grant from the department of education -- capitalests. >> this is where people succeed and fail and start over again. >> if i can conquer eight years of incarceration, i can become an entrepreneur. >> i was sentenced 25 to life in 1994. motorola just came up with the flip flown. >> reporter: he got a job at rocket space, a co-working office for tech start ups. we sat down with him and two former inmates. all of them have jobs in technology. can prisoners make good entrepreneurs? >> none of us started getting in trouble because we weren't conformi conforming, we thought outside the box. >> reporter: prison may be an unlukely place but behind bars, the same rules apply.

>> to go and want to be an entrepreneur, you have to be resilie resilient. that's one thing prison teaches you and to try to win against all odds. for out front, laurie segall. thanks so much to all of you for watching. have a great night. see you tomorrow. see you tomorrow. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. a senate vote you'll feel, not called the nuclear option for nothing. is the answer in this video. the parents want to know was a young man named kendrick johnson murdered? was the investigation bungled? see what a leading expert says after viewing the footage. she wore the suit to dallas and covered in blood back home to show what was done to her husband. jackie kennedy's outfit. why it may not be seen for 100 years. what government does with your