tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 21, 2013 5:00pm-6:01pm PST
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>> to go and want to be an entrepreneur, you have to be resilie resilient. that's one thing prison teaches you and to try to win against all odds. for out front, laurie segall. thanks so much to all of you for watching. have a great night. see you tomorrow. see you tomorrow. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. a senate vote you'll feel, not called the nuclear option for nothing. is the answer in this video. the parents want to know was a young man named kendrick johnson murdered? was the investigation bungled? see what a leading expert says after viewing the footage. she wore the suit to dallas and covered in blood back home to show what was done to her husband. jackie kennedy's outfit. why it may not be seen for 100 years. what government does with your business, the temptation is
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to tune out. the fact is, though, what democrats in the united states senate today matters if you care who runs government agencies who touch the life or courts of cabinet departments. all involve people nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. confirmation takes a simple ma jobty, 51 votes, however, any senator can have a higher they shall hold of 60 votes. today siting the times republicans used the 60-vote hurdle to block nominees, they voted to take it off the table for all but supreme nominees. the change is called the nuclear option, the name implies a big deal, blows up the rules, the question why do the democrats do it? president obama made a visit to the press briefing room and singled out the gop. >> i realize nothing party has been blameless for these tactics. they have developed over years, and it seems as if they continue
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we ly escalated but today's pattern of obstruction, it just isn't normal. it's not what our founders invisioned. a deliberate effort, no matter the merits to refight the results of an election is not normal, and for the sake of future generations, we can't let it become normal. >> republicans are threatening retaliation and claiming hypocrisy, a then senator obama opposed a nuclear option when they controlled the senate. >> if the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if they choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate, then the fighting and the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse. >> in nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. it is a fundamental power grab by the majority party. >> senators have used the
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filibuster to stand up to popular presidents, to block legislation. yes, even as i've stated, to stall executive nominees. the roots of the filibuster are found in the contusion and in our own rules. >> it will change the senate forever and that's not good. >> they were all clear abo why e flip-flop senator reed said quote i have the right to change how i feel about things. dana joins us. plenty of hypocrisy to go around but with blocking nominees, it is as bad as democrats are claiming, dana. >> it's certainly different. you have to look at the facts the nonpartisan congressional research service put out, of all the filibusters in the senate, nominees, half on them happened during the obama administration. if you dig deeper into that, people can differ about what you actually call a filibuster, but regard lsz, it certainly has
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been more than before and so that really is another reason, anderson, that harry reid gave the answer he did, which is he's changed because of the fact that the atmosphere has changed. >> jeff, we've been hearing threats blow for the filibuster, why now? >> the situation got so extreme. >> so you say it really is extreme? >> absolutely. barack obama nominated five people to the d.c. circuit, which is the second most important court in the country. it's where job roberts were and cleanse thomas all there before they went on the supreme court. of those five nominations, four were filler bustered. that's just unprecedented. what today's vote will mean is that three of those four will now get on the d.c. circuit, and that could have major implications for whether the laws obama managed to pass are upheld now that the challenges are starting to work their way
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through the court. >> dan, what about on the republican side? they are outraged by what happened. is this going to poison the future of bipartisan agreements? >> it could. there is no question about it. even republicans who tend to work across the isle like john mccain told me and other reporters, it might be harder to get treaties passed that require big super majorities of 67 votes because of the fact republicans may support the concept of the issue at hand, but they might not want to give democrats a win after they have had their feathers ruffled. but the other thing to keep in mind is just sort of big picture and practical level, what you're going to see now is pretty much every one of the president's nominees except for the supreme court, which is a different issue, is going to get through the senate unless there is a controversial issue about ca qualifications and that's a big
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change. >> maybe that's as important to oba obama's legacy? >> certainly. the house is in republican hands. no legislation, not even immigration, it appears, is going to get through. so there aren't going to be any lawings passed. so all obama can do for the rest of the term is get his people on the courts in administrative agencies and this is how he can do it because now he only needs 50 votes. it certainly raises the stakes for the 2014 midterm elections because a lot of democrats are up for reelection. if the republicans retake the senate in 2014, nothing will happen the last two years of obama's presidency. >> thanks very much. i want to come back to jeff shortly on the next story. cnn has been following it. new insight into the death of a 17-year-old georgia high school student kendrick johnson whose body was discovered roll up inside a gym mat. doubts about the investigation grew when his death was ruled accidental. his parents suspect murder. it grew into sloppy forensic
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work and corpse empty of organs. tonight, the results of those efforts, what the video says and doesn't say about the death of this young man. one note, in all the clips you'll see we deliberately blurred the faces of other students. here is victor blackwell. >> we are kendrick johnson. that's my child and we'll fight until it's over, until we get the truth. that's all we ask for is the truth what happened to kendrick job son. >> reporter: jackelyn johnson and her husband kenneth hope to find that truth in the video the day the 17-year-old died. look carefully, there he is in a white t-shirt and jeans carrying a yellow folder. the johnsons have this folder as the result of a lawsuit. cnn filed a motion to get access to the video. investigators told the johnsons and their attorneys that
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kendrick climbed into a gym mat reaching for this shoe and his death was an accident. >> they know their child did not climb into a wrestling mat, get stuck and die. where is that video? >> reporter: the sheriff's office says that moment was not recorded. the johnsons also question moments in the surveillance video like this one. kendrick is seen running in the gym and then another image appears showing other students. it jumps from one moment to another. the johnson's attorney says they can't tell from the surveillance video what happened to kendrick and when the other students entered. >> we don't have any time code with which to sink news the events. >> either the camera did this on their own or a human being interacted to make this camera do these things. >> reporter: an attorney for the schools tells cnn what we produced to the sheriff is a raw
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feed with no edits. the attorney for the sheriff's office tells cnn my client confirmed the video was not altered or edited within the luwndes county sheriff office. >> we believe somebody core resulted this video because it doesn't make sense. >> reporter: who is right? to find out, we took our copy of the video provided to cnn by the attorney for the sheriff's office to an expert. we brought the hard drive 2300 miles to spokane, washington to deliver it to the leading expert grant fredericks. he's a former police officer, a consultant for the u.s. department of justice and a construct instructor at the fbi academy. we're here to get an answer. has the surveillance video been amountered? >> they are not original and investigators should not rely on. >> reporter: cnn hired his
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company, forensic video solutions to analyze the surveillance video. >> the first thing that the attorneys and the family were concerned about, they didn't see a time stamp but you found one. >> yes. >> how? >> the time stamp is in another stream of video, so you have to be able to access it using special codes, so you have to know where to find it but it's there. once the time stamp is located, you can begin to make sense and track people. >> reporter: by piecing together the time code s, his team found more than 18 minutes of surveillance showing kendrick on january 10th, starting at 7:31 a.m. as he entered school, ending the last time he was seen alive at 1:09 p.m. in the gym. >> the motion video that we're looking at here and the fact that we skip time periods when there is no motion is very common. so i'm not really concerned about that part of it. >> reporter: but what about the blurred image, the only angle that shows the corner where kendrick johnson was found dead?
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. the johnsons and their attorneys believe this was intentionally blurred to hide something. what is your expertise tell you? >> yeah, this is not been intentionally blurred. this is likely the camera itself is probably been hit and the lens has been pushed out of focus for some reason. if you look closely, you can see the defined lines that are inherent in digital video. those lines are still in tact, so they have in the been blurred, therefore it was actually the lens that's blurred. the blurriness actually has the defined lines. so this is clearly just a blurred lens. >> reporter: clarity about the blur, the time stamp revealed and an explanation for the jumpy video which made the johnsons and the attorney suspicious the video was edited but fredericks has a bigger concern. >> this video is not the best evidence. it's been changed and altered so that we are missing information and what we have been provided is not the best quality. >> reporter: altered by copying
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but also raising questions about whether everything was copied. >> well in part two of victor blackwell's exclusive report, a new mystery as the expert say what is appears to be missing from the surveillance video and why it could be critical to the case. that's coming up next. tweet me using hash tag "ac 360" and later tonight, george zimmerman's wife speaking out about his latest troubles and so is the man that got him acquitted in the trayvon martin case, his former attorney mark om'mara joins us. [ male announcer ] this is brad.
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more now of our exclusive investigation into the death of kendrick johnson, specifically what school surveillance video can tell us how he died and what is missing from it. again, here is victor blackwell. >> reporter: cnn hired grant fredericks and his team to analyze the hundreds of hours of surveillance from the high school. although he does not believe the jumpy video is the result of ed di diting he says there is problems. >> those files are not original. they are not something investigators should rely on for the truth of the video. they have been altered in a number of ways, primary in initial quality and likely, in dropped information. information lost, there are also a number of files that are core resulted because they have not been processed correctly and they are not playable. i can't say why they were done that way, but they were not done correctly, and they were not
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done thoroughly. so we're missing information. >> reporter: fred diericks says that's likely how they obtained the video. >> they left up to the to the school district to define what they want to provide to the police and i believe that's probably a mistake. >> reporter: according to incident reports, a detective watch add portion of the surveillance video the day kendrick johnson was found and asked the school board's information technology worker for a copy of the surveillance video for the entire wing of the school with the old gym for the last 48 hours. five days later, that it worker provided a hard drive, and according to the incident report, the detective verified it contained the requested video. >> the investigator's responsibility is to acquire the entire digital video recording system and have their staff define what they want to obtain. you don't want somebody who might be party to the responsibility to make the
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decision as to what they provide the police. >> reporter: after hours after analysis, fredericks questions whether lowdnes schools provided all of the video. >> there is a hole of time where none of the cameras provide any record that i've been provided. >> reporter: fredericks has all the camera angles and all the video released by the sheriff's office. >> there are four cameras in the gym that records motion from when the lights turn on in the morning until when the lights are turned off at night, except for the area of interest. >> reporter: the moments before kendrick johnson enters the gym, look at what happens to the recordings from these four cameras in the gym. the time is recorded with the video. the first camera captures images from the start of the day until 12:04 p.m. then nothing. it picks up again at 1:09 p.m. there is consistent surveillance from the second camera until 11:05 a.m., then it stops and
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picks up again more than two hours later at 1:15 p.m. the third camera also drops at 11:05 a.m. and picks up again at 1:16 p.m. and from the final camera, there is surveillance until 12:04 p.m., no recording for more than an hour, then it picks up again at 1:09 p.m. >> i would absolutely expect there to be some record of that activity, and we don't have any here. >> reporter: here is why fredericks would have expected the motion activated system to record during that time. during that hour and five minutes, several students are seen walking into and out of the old gym from the surveillance camera just outside the gym door. we couldn't seven male students, and three of them walk into the gym of three minutes prior to kendrick johnson walking in. >> i can't tell you whether there was no information recorded or whether somebody made an error and didn't capture it or whether somebody didn't provide it.
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>> reporter: when surveillance in the gym resumes at 1:09 we see these few dprframes of kendrick. although there is a record of two two and the record in the door. the hall camera time stamp appears to be ten minutes behind and there is no confirmation either time matches the exact time on day. it's the last time his image is captured on video. for the next hour, there are multiple gaps in the video surveillance in the gym. >> and that is crucial. it's really important. >> well, it really is the only option to answer the question what happened. >> reporter: and there is no video showing the initial discovery of a body in the gym. the next time we see kendrick johnson is the following day when he's being wheeled out of the gym in a body bag. do you believe it's a coincidence that time period in the gym is missing? >> oh, boy.
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investigators are always suspicious and should be suspicious and it's suspicious that that time period is not there. so, yes, i would be suspicious. and until i have the digital video system in my hand, until i can say or an investigator can say everything is in tact, this is what was recorded, i would be highly suspicious of this. >> reporter: so after fighting for months on a city street corner and in the county courthouse to get the survey lensz video, kendrick johnson's parents still do not know who was in the gym before kendrick ran in, nor who, if anyone, was there or what happened in those moments after. >> victor blackwell joins us. so what does the school district and sheriff's department say? >> anderson, we sent a long list of questions to both an attorney for the sheriff's office and an attorney for the school district. we have not received an answer to the question from the attorney from the her riches office but received a response from the attorney for the school district. no comment.
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although that attorney said he'll make the original hard drive available to the court and of course, the johnsons want to make sure all the information from the school's hard drive was then given to the sheriff's office which they hope eventually was all passed on to them and of course, we'll find that out. >> victor blackwell staying on the story, thank you. digging deep now, i want to check in with jeffrey toobin and sunny hostin. so sunny, from victor's reporting it appears the school didn't hand over basically all the tapes. what do you make of that? >> it's curious at best. when you investigate a case you don't ask the school or whichever custodian of the record to give them to you, you go and retrieve them. >> because the school could be facing liability. >> exactly. it doesn't headache sense. you don't only ask for a specific amount of tape, you ask for tape a month's worth or three weeks worth, so it's just very curious this is how it was conducted. >> do you find it odd, jeff, it
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was left up to the school to do this? >> it's odd and the way life tends to work in these sorts of investigations, stuff is lost. stuff is never found. i mean, this is a -- you know, it was chaotic bad investigation from the start. they are trying to reconstruct it a year later, which makes the task even more difficult. so yes, it's too bad, but it is not really surprising that it's -- you can't reconstruct exactly what was on the surveillance cameras. >> the other thing i can't understand is that victor reported a couple weeks ago there are basically two different reports by the coroner. there is -- and there is big discrepancies, there are basically two different versions from the death investigation and dated a week apart. there was the one that was given to victor, given to cnn and the other one that he got ahold of. i want to read an example. in the version that victor got through the coroner's office in the comments section it says quote, i do not approve the manner this case was handled.
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from the coroner. not only was the scene compromised. body was moved. the integrity was breached by opening a sealed body bag, and then the version dated a week ear earlier, that comment section was empty. does that seem -- >> [ laughter ] >> i've never seen anything like that. i'm sure you haven't, either. >> no. >> it's interesting because when i first heard about this case, i was skeptical and i thought but for this to be true, what the parents are alleging, you would have to have a coverup involving so many different entities. you would have to have a coverup involving the school, involving law enforcement, involving the coroner's office and they should be all pointing the finger at the other at this point and that wasn't happening. now we see perhaps that has been happening. you have a coroner saying, listen, my investigation was flawed from the beginning because law enforcement officers at the scene didn't help me. the body bag was compromised. i've never seen anything like
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that and you think it's a cya situation. >> that could be -- you could say it's a coverup and say that maybe it's them just trying to cover their shotty work. >> right, who made the mistakes? but again, the big picture here is, i think we all want to find out was there a murder? >> right. >> if so, who did it? these kind of mistakes make that all the more difficult. >> and as you say, given the amount of time that passed, the shotty collection at the scene and the shocking removal of the organs of this young man, his organs were replaced. nobody is saying who took them out and replaced them with newspaper, which, again, i never heard of. >> and no one has ever heard of it. again, if you look at each individual situation, you say nice stakes are made. videos are erased. sometimes autopsies are done incorrectly but all of these things exist in this one particular case. that is curious at best, at
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best. >> and as you say, the passage of time makes it so much harder. the surveillance cameras, the blood on the wall, the blood is gone, the shoes on the floor -- >> i don't understand if there is blood on a wall, even if it's near a crime scene, you would think testing that blood -- >> well, it's crucial. it's investigation 101. >> it certainly is curious but i would like to put in for a vote for the possibility of incompetence and mistake. >> sure. >> we'll keep looking at it, jeff, thank you so much, sunny, as well. >> for more on the story, go to cnn.com. soon you may be able to phone home in the middle of a flight. what the fcc is proposing and when it could take effect. george zimmerman's ex-wife says he's a ticking time bomb and he needs help. i'll talk to mark o'mara, the first time he's speaking out about the episode.
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so tonight, air travel may be one step closer to getting a lot nosier. the fcc said it's considering lifting the ban on cell phone calls in flight. the agency plans to take up the proposal next month. it's move comes weeks after the faa said it would lift restrictions on the use of electronic devices in the air. a lot of people are skeptical cell foenls pose a safety risk, others will be horrified of the possibility being surrounded by fellow passengers yammering for a cross countries flight. i think this is a terrible idea. i'm just saying this directly. yes. >> this is not a tech thnology
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issue on planes because airlines used to in europe and other parts of the world, phones are already being used in flight above 10,000 feet. let's be clear about that. what the fcc is doing is having a discussion about this, opening the pandora's box. it will be at least a year before anything comes about from this discussion process, but it's coming. i'll lay you money. >> really? you think it's inevitable? all right. we'll shake on it. all right the faa said okay, you can text, you can send e-mails and things like that and that's up to each airline when they actually start instituting that. that we know is happening. these discussions -- it's not a technology issue, how will passengers respond? >> it can be done and can be done safely there is an an tten on the roof of the airplane to prevent that. the real issue, ask richard
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quest are you in the favor, yes or no at richard quest? >> for instance, i would not want to hear you talking on a cell phone on a plane. you are quite volumeble and for instance, i enjoy your company. >> be careful there, be careful cooper. be nice. >> i'm not -- i'm just saying who are wants to be sitting next to anybody talking on a plane? >> that's a good question and i wouldn't like to sit next to myself, either. >> i'm not saying i don't want to sit next to you. there was a quiz on richard quest -- >> yes. >> how did people vote. >> 95% say no. everyone wants connectivity, very few people want phone calls. have you fed the dog? the pilot said we're over boy see, idaho, i couldn't see it myself. nobody wants that. >> i totally agree with that. i absolute agree with that.
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>> there might be a viewer who really wants to use their phone. >> at richard quest. >> you fly a lot, though. see, i find air travel now so difficult. i feel for flight attend tends -- >> the flight attendants that have to be referees. >> it will be exhausting. their job is tough enough. >> flying isn't pleasant and we have to get from point a to b and on row 96 t, it isn't going to be please sent. gary tuchman joins us with the 360 news and business bulletin. >> anderson, michael skakel, a cousin of the kennedys walked out of a connecticut courthouse a freeman for the first time in a decade. the judge set the bail at 1. $2 million and ordered him to stay in the connecticut and wear a tracking device. his murder of martha moxley was vacates last month.
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he's awaiting a new trail. a massachusetts grand jury indicted 14-year-old chism for murder, rape and robbery. the indictments detail horrific and unspeakable acts. chism allegedly assaulted and killed his algebra teacher colleen ritzer. the companion of an 85-year-old believe there is a terrible misunderstanding and hopes north korea releases meryl norman soon. they were on an organized tour and boarded the plane when he was detained. a cargo plane that landed at the wrong airport took off without incident on a runway a mile and a half shorter than it needs. what caused it to land at a airport 12 miles from it's intended destination? >> speaking of planes, i agree, no cell phones, we don't want them. >> i agree. the plane landing at the
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wrong airport is crazy. >> but not unique. >> really? >> absolutely. pilots coming into land where airports might be close to each other and on the same configuration and runway settings, get confused or don't concentrate at the key moment. they see a runway, it's got the right number, they start the approach in to land. >> wow. >> i can tell you it's happened in the 196 0s, the '70s, the '80s, the '90s, at least 14 incidents. >> you have information. >> tour kirk, pan am. >> have you seen the kobe bryant ads for turkish airways? >> if you think you had a bad day, can you imagine ringing up the boss and saying look, well, i've got something to tell you. >> all right. richard, thank you very much.
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what's obviously been a difficult week for george zimmerman, first arrested on domestic violence charges after his girlfriend called 911 and while sitting in a cell, he was served with divorce papers. shellie zimmerman gave her take. here is what she told katie couric on her talk show, "katie". >> i don't know who george is anymore. i would like to think i married a person who was a good person and going through the past year and a half, i don't know how that changes a person or how a person's spirit breaks, but it certainly seems like that's what happened to him. i found out that he was lying about a lot of things, and he became like a pacing lion. very unpredictable.
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every single day it was like adrenaline going through my body constantly not knowing what it was going to be like from day to day. >> shellie zimmerman of course stood by her husband during the murder trial. curricasked if she had results about that. she said part of her does. she said she doesn't think george zimmerman is racist. for the first time his former attorney is speaking out, mark o'mara helped get zimmerman acquitted of murder in july. hey, good to have you here. obviously, you did not know george zimmerman before trayvon martin was killed. she said she saw a change in him during the course of the trial. did you see that? >> i think she's right. the george zimmerman before january 2012, was a kind and gentle person and one that she described and his friends described. when the fbi did their investigation to see if he was racist, they talked to 40 people and not one said he was or violent or dangerous but peaceful and mellow.
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that's who he seemed to have been before the event that happened on the 12th -- i'm sorry, february of 2012. so, now if you look forward, to see what happened to george zimmerman and i know ever time i say that, people say well what about trayvon martin and we understand he passed away that night and with all respect for what he went through, we know that george zimmerman went through a trama, both that night, the trama of getting beat up, which happens in all that traumatic but police officers have to shoot somebody and justified self-defense, they go through an enormous amount of counseling. they are treated very carefully. so that wasn't done with george, rather, he was turned into one of, as was labeled, one of the most hated men in america for having to defend his life. so i'm not sure what happens to a 28-year-old and put him in hiding for 16 or 18 months, but maybe this is fallout. >> subsequently to his acquittal, we saw him pulled over by police for speeding,
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there was the i said dent with shellie zimmerman and now the incident with his girlfriend. what do yaw make of the incident with his girlfriend? >> the first time everyone jumped to conclusions who he is and what he did. i don't know the true story that night. i'm not involved in that case and will not be. i'm sure there is two sides to the story. i know already things have come out about people selling the story even before that event and trying to get a tv program with it. so there seems to be a lot more behind the scenes, but i know the george zimmerman that existed back before 2012 have to have been changed by what he went through and if this is some fallout and i'm not excusing any allege behavior but if this is fallout, people say george needs to be understood better and counseled -- >> are you skeptical of someone like shellie zimmerman speaking out now? obviously she's in divorce proceedings against her husband.
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there has to be a reason she's speaking out now. let me just play something else that she said on katie. >> sure. >> i think when people hear of all these incidents following the trial, it does cast further doubt on his actions that night. >> sure. >> do you feel that way? >> yes. >> does it cast further doubt for you? >> further doubt, yes, absolutely. >> but yet. >> it casts a lot of doubt like you said, because like i have said. i don't know the person that i've been married to, so of course, i'm going to have questions and doubts, but i wasn't there that night. >> to that you say? >> well, quite honestly -- >> do you have any doubts? >> i don't have any doubts about what he did that night was absolutely justified self-defense. it was never a second-degree murder. >> are you worried about him now? ju you're not representing him but
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are you worried about him? >> i've come to have a friendship with him in the last year and a half. no question. he went through a traumatic event that lasted 18 months. those people want to continue to hate george zimmerman. we'll see what he's done since the acquittal as justification but there is no question that what happen that night in february 2012 happened because it had to happen and it was justified. >> financially speaking, he seems to be in rough shape. according to court documents he only has 150 dollars of cash on hand and $2 million in debt to you. >> don west and i spend 2,000 hours -- >> do you think you'll be repaid? >> he has possibilities. i think those possibilities are shrinking with actions like this. i didn't take it on expecting to get full payment. he has an agreement he will if the money is available. >> so the legal defense fund didn't pan out. >> it took care of a lot of expenses. it allowed him to bring on
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tonight at 9:00 east aern speci -- eastern a special documentary about the kennedys. that pink suit may be one day on display for the public to see but not soon. randi kaye has the story. >> reporter: in the words of john f. kennedy she looked smashing which is why the president asked her to wear the watermelon pink suit. it looked like cocoa channel but
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her suit was a knock off. she had worn it six times before that fateful day. here she is in 1962 awaiting the prime minister of algeria. that's john jr. in her arms. at this fort worth chamber of commerce breakfast, the president joked about his wife's fashion sense. >> nobody wounders what lyndon and i wear. [ laughter ] >> reporter: later that day, president kennedy would be dead. and the first lady's stunning pink suit stained forever with her husband's blood would begin a long and mysterious journey. when aids suggested she change her clothes after the shooting, she refused. phillip wrote a book about the kennedy assassination. >> her remark and i think she made it more than once is no, i'm going to leave these clothes on. i want them to see what they have done. >> reporter: hours later, mrs. kennedy continued to wear the suit during the emergency
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swearing in of lyndon johnson as president. >> that whole scene is obviously just surreal. she arrives in the cabin in air force one in these clothes, covered with the president's blood, and expected to stand there and witness the swearing in of her husband's successor. >> reporter: mrs. kennedy was still in her suit when she arrived later that evening in andrew's air force base in maryland where she received her husband's body. the president's brother at her side in the middle of the night. once at the white house her personal made put the suit in a bag so mrs. kennedy wouldn't have to look at it. then, sometime in 1964 the bloodstained suit arrived here, at the national archives building in the nation's capitol. it come in a box with a handwritten note from jackie kennedy's mother on her personal stationary. it read simply jackie's suit and bag worn november 22nd, 1963.
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all this time mrs. kennedy's pink suit is forbidden from public view and will likely stay that way for a long time. in 2003 after her mother's death, caroline gave the suit to the people of the united states with the understanding that it wouldn't be put on public display for 100 years, until 2103 and then the family must be consulted before an attempt is made to display the suit. all in effort to avoid sensationalizing that horrible act. and it's believed only a hand full of people, maybe only as few as two have seen the suit since. along with the suit and hidden from view, the blue blouse mrs. kennedy wore in dallas, her stockings, blue shoes and blue purse. what they don't have is the first lady's pink pill box hat. >> the hat is a mystery. the hat goes to the secret service initially and the secret service turns it over to mrs. kennedy's private secretary
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and then it disappears. it has not been seen since. >> reporter: the archive is making every effort to preserve the suit. it's stored in a windowless vault, in an acid free area where the air is changed every 20 minutes or so and kept at a temperature of 65 to 68 degrees which is best for the fabric. the suit's story, a perfect ending for a first lady who craved privacy after so much pain. >> fascinating to hear. after 360, a cnn special, the assassination of president kennedy. honestly, i'm a little old fashioned. i love chalk and erasers. but change is coming. all my students have the brand new surface.
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time now for the redix lick list. he says something keeping getting in there and teaming weeds or greens or someone because martin told local news station katu in this part of southeast portland, it's not animals that are the problem. >> in some neighborhoods it's coyotes and skunks and dealing with sue chefs and the things that come with that. >> that's right, sue chefs. he says they are hopping the fence, stealing herbs and using them in dishes at trendy restaurants near by. his neighbor saw one guy stuck on the fence with leaves and you can tell the chefs had been there because he seen beard nets left behind and evidence. >> i found this recipe lying back here the other day. pdx pork belly, sometimes smells like brisket. >> smells like brisket. he says basically no herb is
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safe. >> you got grape leaves. >> this is all just wild? >> yeah, some duck, i believe. most of the can't mint i think is gone. i think they got most of that. >> and they are just throwing stuff in bags? >> in tubber ware, bags, yeah. >> this whole thing seems like a joke and appears to have started out as a tongue and cheek poke but the guy says the problem itself is real even though it sounds like a sketch of a show that says portland is into locally sourced food. >> the chicken is a heritage breed, wood land rised chicken fed sheep's milk, so i and hazel nuts. >> this is local? >> yes, absolutely. >> let me ask you one more time, it's local? >> yes. >> a hazel nut is local. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, i have the exactly the same question. >> four acres. >> his name was colin. here are his papers. >> okay. great. >> he looks like a happy little
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guy running around. >> garnished with locally stolen herbs. if part of it is for entertainment value, this is the best story of it's kind. >> i feel like mr. mcelderry gregor. >> whether it's peter rabbit stealing vegetables or beard net droppings, it's a fable for the ages and for "the ridiculist." the cnn special the assassination of president assassination of president kennedy starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com two or three emotional experiences burned into his heart and his brain, and no matter what happens to me, i remember november the 22nd as long as i live. >> there has been an attempt on the life of president kennedy. >> they are combing the floors of the texas depository building to find the assassin. [ gunshots ].
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