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good evening. tonight a senate vote you're definitely going to feel. not called the nuclear option for nothing. also the answer in this video the parents what lost their young teenage boy want to know. was he murdered? was the investigation bungled? also tonight she wore the suit to dallas, she wore it covered in blood back home to show what was done to her husband. jackie kennedy's outfit, what it meant to a shattered country and why it may not be seen by nun for 100 years. we begin with the biggest change in the way government does business. your business in decades. it involves senate rules and latin words and partisan big, the temptation is to tune out. the fact what the united states
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senate did today matters if you care about who runs government agencies that touch your life or the courts or cabinet departments. all people nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate. confirmation takes a simple majority, 51 votes. however, any senator can demand a higher threshold, supermajority of 60 votes. today citing all the times the republicans have used that 60-vote hurdle to block presidential nominees, the senate voted to take it off the table for all but supreme court nominees. it's called the nuclear option, really big deal, blows up the rules. why did the democrats do it? president obama made a surprise briefing to the press room and singled out the gop. >> i realize that neither party has been blameless for these tactics. they've developed over the years. and it seems as if they've continually escalated. but today's pattern of obstruction, it just isn't
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normal. it's not what our founders envisioned. a deliberate and determined effort to obstruct everything no matter what the merits. just to refight the results of an election. is not normal. and for the sake of future generations we can't let it become normal. >> republicans meantime are threatening retaliation, also claiming hypocrisy pointing out that leading democrats including then senator obama opposed the nuclear option when republicans controlled the senate. >> the majority chooses to end the filibuster, if the choose to change the rules and put an end to democratic debate, then the fighting and the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse. >> this nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. it is a fundamental power grab by the majority party. >> senators have used the filibuster to stand up to popular presidents, to block legislation, yes, even as i've
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stated, to stall executive nominees. the roots of the filibuster are found in the constitution and in our own rules. >> it will change the senate forever. that's not good. >> all right. the were all pretty clear about it back then. asked today by dana bash why the flip-flop, senator reid said quote i have the right to change how i feel about things. dana joins us along with senior legal analyst jeffrey to been. no doubt hypocrisy to go around. in terms of blocking nominees is it really as bad as the democrats are claiming, dana? >> reporter: it certainly is different. they are right about that. you just have to look at the facts that the nonpartisan congressional research service put out. that is of all the filibusters in the history of the senate when you're talking about nominees, half of them have happened during the obama administration. now if you dig deeper into that, people can differ about what you actually call a filibuster, but regardless it certainly has been more than before. and so that really is another reason, anderson, that harry
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reid answered he's changed because of the fact the atmosphere has changed. >> jeff, we've been hearing threats to blow up the filibuster for a long time. why now? >> because the situation got so extreme. >> so you say it really is, team. >> absolutely. barack obama has nominated five people to the d.c. circuit, which is the second most important court in the country. it's really the farm team for the supreme court. where john roberts worked, clarence thomas, antonin scalia, ruth bader ginsburg were there before the supreme court. of those nominations, four were filibustered. what today's vote will mean is that three of those four will now get on the d.c. circuit. and that could have major implications for whether the laws that obama managed to pass in his first term are upheld. now that the challenges are starting to work their way through the court. >> dana, what about on the republican side? they're saying they're outraged by what happened.
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is this going to poison the well for future bipartisan agreements? >> reporter: it could. there's no question about it. even republicans who tend to work across the aisle like john mccain was telling me and other reporters today that it might be harder for him to do things like get treaties passed which require big supermajorities of 67 votes because of the fact that republicans may support the concept of the issue at hand but the might not want to give democrats a win after they've had their feathers ruffled. but the other thing to keep in mind is just sort of big picture on a practical level. what you're going to see now is pretty much every one of the president's nominees, except for the supreme court which is a whole different issue, is going to get through the senate unless there's some really controversial issue about qualifications. and that is a big big change. >> and jeff, you think this may be as important to obama's legacy as obama care? >> absolutely. especially when you consider the current political context. the house is in republican hands. no legislation, not even
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immigration it appears is going to get through. there are not going to be any laws passed. so all obama can do now for the rest of his term is to get his people on the courts, in administrative agencies. and this is how he can do it. now he only needs 50 votes. it certainly raises the stakes for the 2014 mid-term elections. a lot of those democrats are up for re-election. if the republicans retake the senate in 2014, nothing is going to happen the last two years of obama's presidency. >> jeff, appreciate it. dana bash, thanks very much. want to come back to jeff shortly on the next story. cnn's been following from the beginning. exclusive tonight. new insight into the death of a 17-year-old georgia high school student, kendrick johnson, whose body was discovered rolled up inside a gym mat. doubts about the investigation grew when his death was ruled accidental. his parents suspected murder. the doe tails -- details of
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sloppy investigation and his body after autopsy with organs removed. tonight what the video says and doesn't say about the death of this young man. one note in all the clips you're going to see we've deliberately blurred the faces of other students. here's victor blackwell. >> that's my child. we're going to fight until it's all over until we get the truth. that's all we've ever asked for the truth about what happened to him. >> reporter: jacqueline and her husband hope to find that truth in the hundreds of hours of surveillance video recorded the day sheriff's investigators say the 17-year-old died. look carefully. there he is, in the white t-shirt and jeans carrying a yellow folder. the johnsons now have this video as a result of a lawsuit. cnn filed its own motion to get access to all the video. investigators in lowndes county georgia told the johnsons and their attorneys kendrick climbed into a gym mat reaching for this shoe and his death was an
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accident. >> they know their child did not climb into a wrestling mat, get stuck and die. where's that video? >> reporter: the sheriff's office says that moment was not recorded. the johnsons also question moments in the surveillance video like this one. kendrick is seen running in the gym and then another image appears showing other students. it jumps from one moment to another. the johnsons' attorney say the can't tell from the surveillance video what happened to kendrick and when the other students entered. >> we don't have any time code with which to synchronize the events that are shown in the video. >> either the camera did this on their own or a human being interacted to make this camera do these things. >> reporter: an attorney for lowndes county schools tells cnn what we produced to the sheriff is a raw feed with no edits. the attorney for lowndes county sheriff's office tells cnn, my client has confirmed the video
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was not altered or edited by anyone within the lowndes county sheriff's office. >> we believe it somebody corrupted this video because it just does not make sense to us. >> reporter: so who's right? to find out we took our copy of the video provided to cnn by the attorney for the sheriff's office to an expert. >> we brought the hard drive more than 2300 miles here to spokane, washington, to deliver it to the leading expert in forensic video analysis, grant fredricks. he's a former police officer, a consultant for the u.s. department of justice, and a contract instructor at the fbi academy in quantico. we are here to get an answer. has the surveillance footage been altered? >> those files are not original files, not something that an investigator should rely on for the truth of the video. >> reporter: cnn hired franoren video solutions to analyze the
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video. >> the first thing the attorneys and the family were concerned about, the didn't see a time stamp but you found one. >> yes. >> how? >> the time stamp is in another stream of video. so you have to be able to access it using special codex. you have to know where to find it but it's there. once the time stamp is located you can then begin to make sense of it and begin to track people. >> by piecing together the time codes, frederik's team found more than 18 minutes of surveillance showing kendrick on january 10th, starting at 7:31 a.m. as he entered school, ending the last time he was seen alive, at 1:09 p.m. in the gym. >> the motion video we're looking at here, and the fact be that we skip time periods when there's no motion is very common. so i'm not really concerned about that part of >> it but what about the blurred image, the only angle that shows the corner where kendrick johnson was found dead? >> the johnsons and their attorneys believe that this was intentionally blurred to hide something. what is your expertise tell you?
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>> this is not been intentionally blurred. this is likely the camera itself is probably been hit and the lens has been pushed out of focus for some reason. if you look very closely you can see the defined lines that are inherent in digital video. those lines are still intact. so the have not been blurred. therefore it was actually the lens that's blurred. the blurriness actually has the defined lines. so this is clearly just a blurred lens. >> clarity about the blur, the time stamp revealed, and an explanation for the jumpy video which made the johnsons and their attorney suspicious the video had been edited. but fredricks has a bigger concern. >> but this video is not the best evidence. it's been changed and altered so that we are missing information, and what we have been provided is not the best quality. >> altered by copying, but also raising questions about whether everything was copied.
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>> well, in part two victor blackwell's exclusive report tonight we're going to investigate a new mystery as the expert says what appears to be missing from the surveillance video and why it could be critical to the case. that's coming up next. let us know what you think. follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper using #ac js 360. george zimmerman's former attorney mark o'mara joins us when we come back. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people. so you have time to focus on the things you love. ink from chase. so you can. i always wanted to design
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hundreds of hours of surveillance from lowndes high school. although he does not believe the jumpy video is the result of editing, he says there are some other major problems. >> those files are not original files. they're not something that an investigator should rely on for the truth of the video. they've been altered in a number of ways, primarily in its quality, and likely in dropped information, information lost. there are also a number of fielts that are corrupted because they've not been processed correctly and they're not playable. so i can't say why the were done that way, but the were not done correctly the were not done thoroughly so we're mission information. >> fredricks says that's likely due to how investigators acquired the surveillance video. >> right now what they've done is think have left it up to the school district to define what it is the want to provide the police. and i think that probably is a
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mistake. >> according to lowndes counties sheriff's office, the asked for a copy of the surveillance video for the entire wing of the school with the old gym for the last 48 hours. five days later, that i.t. worker provided a hard drive. and according to the incident report, the detective verified it contained the requested surveillance video. >> the investigators' response is to akwiert entire digital video recording system and then have their staff define what the want to obtain. you don't want somebody who might be party to the responsibility to make the decision as to what the provide the police. >> and after hours of analysis, fredricks questions whether lowndes county schools provided all of the surveillance video from the old gym to investigators. >> there is a hole of time where none of the cameras provide any record that i've been provided. >> fredricks has all the camera
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angles and all the video released by the lowndes county sheriff's office. >> there are four cameras in the gym that records motion from when the lights turn on in the morning until the lights are turned off at night except for the area of interest. >> the moments before kendrick johnson enters the gym. look at what happens to the recordings from these four cameras in the gym. the time is recorded with the video. the first camera captures images from the start of the day until 12:04 p.m. then nothing. it picks up again at 1:09 p.m. there's consistent surveillance from the second camera until 11:05 a.m., then it stops and picks up again more than two hours later at 1:15 p.m. the third camera also drops at 11:05 a.m. it picks up again at 1:16 p.m. and from the final camera, there's surveillance until 12:04 p.m., no recording for more than an hour, then it picks up again at 1:09 p.m. >> i would absolutely expect
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there to be some record of that activity and we don't have any here. >> here's why fredricks would have expected the motion activated system to record during that time. during that hour and five minutes, several students are seen walking into and out of the old gym from the surveillance camera just outside the gym door. we count seven male students, and three of them walk into the gym within three minutes prior to kendrick johnson walking in. >> i can't tell you whether there was no information recorded in the digital video system or whether somebody made an error and didn't capture it or whether somebody just didn't provide it. >> when surveillance in the gym resumes at 1:09, we see just these few frames of kendrick johnson running in the gym. here's that moment from all of the cameras in the gym, although there's a record from only, two and the camera just outside the door. notice the hall camera time stamp appears to be ten minutes behind, and there's no confirmation either time matches
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the exact time of day. it is the last time his image is captured on video. for the next hour, there are multiple gaps in the video surveillance in the gym. >> and that is crucial. it's a really important time. >> well, it really is the only option to answer the question of really what happened. >> and there's no video showing the initial discovery of a body in the gym. the next time we see kendrick johnson is the following day when he's being wheeled out of the gym in a body bag. >> do you believe it's a coincidence that that time period in the gym is missing? >> oh, boy. investigators are always suspicious and should be subs pishs. and it's suspicious that that time period is not there. so yes, i would be suspicious. and until i have the digital video system in my hand, until i can say or an investigator can say everything is intact, this was what's recorded, i would still be highly suspicious of
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this. >> so after fighting for months on a city street corner and in the county courthouse to get the surveillance video, kendrick johnson's parents still do not know who was in the gym before kendrick ran in nor who if anyone was there or what happened in those moments after. >> victor blackwell joins us. so what does the school district and sheriff's department say. >> we sent a long list of questions to both an attorney for the sheriff's office and an attorney for the lowndes county school district. we have not received an answer to our questions from the attorney for the sheriff's office but we have received a response from the attorney for the school district. "no comment." although that attorney has said that he will make the original hard drive available to the court, and of course the johnsons want to make sure that all the information from the school's hard drive was then given to the sheriff's office which the hope eventually was all passed on to them. of course we'll find that out, anderson. >> victor blackwell staying on the story. digging deep now want to
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check in with legal analyst jeffrey toobin and former federal prosecutor sunny hostin. >> it looks like the school didn't hand over all the tapes. what do you make of that? >> it's really curious at best. if you're investigating a case you don't ask the school or whoever to give you you go retrieve them. >> the school district could face liability. >> it doesn't make sense. it's not how investigations typically are conducted. you don't only ask for a specific amount of tape. you ask for tape a month's work or three week's worth. so it's very curious this is how it was conducted. >> do you find it odd, jeff, it was left up to the schools to do this? >> yes, it's odd but it's also the way life tends to work in these investigations. stuff is lost many stuff is never found. this was a chaotic, bad investigation from the start. they are now trying to reconstruct it a year later, which just makes the task even
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more difficult. so yes, it's too bad. but it is not really surprising that you can't reconstruct exactly what was on the surveillance cameras that the point. >> the other thing i don't understand is that victor reported a couple weeks ago there were basically two different reports by the coroner. and there's big discrepancies. basically two different versions of the coroner's report from the death investigation. they're dated a week apart. there was the one given to victor and cnn and the other one that he got ahold of. i want to read an example. in the version that victor got through the coroner's office, in the comment section it says quote i do not approve of the manner this case was handled from the coroner. not only was the scene compromised, the body was moved, the integrity was breached by opening a sealed body bag. information for my lawful investigation was withheld. which sounds very serious. then the version that was dated a week earlier obtained through the police department that comment section was empty. >> i've never seen anything like
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that. i'm sure you haven't, either. >> never. >> and it's interesting because when i first heard about this case, i was skeptical. and i thought, but for this to be true what the parents are alleging, you would have to have a coverup involving so many different entities. you'd have to have a coverup involving the school, involving law enforcement, involving the coroner's office. and the should all be pointing the finger at the other at this point. and that wasn't happening. well, now we see that perhaps that has been happening. you have a coroner saying, listen, my investigation was flawed from the beginning because law enforcement officers at the scene didn't help me. the body bag was compromised. i've never seen anything like that. you're starting to think it's a cya operation at this point. >> you could also say maybe it's them trying to cover their shoddy work. >> who made the mistakes. but again, the big picture here is i think we all want to find out was there a murder. >> right. >> if so who did it? these kind of mistakes make that
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all the more difficult. >> as you say, given the amount of time that's passed, the shoddy collection at the scene initially and the shocking removal of the organs of this young man -- his organs were replaced. nobody is saying who took out his organs and replaced them with newspaper, which again just seems like something i've never heard of. >> and no one's ever heard of it. again, if you look at each individual situation you think, well, mistakes are made. sometimes videos are erased. sometimes autopsies are done incorrectly. but all of these things exist in this one particular case. that is curious at best. at best. >> and as you say, the passage of time makes it so much harder. the surveillance cameras with the blood on the wall, the blood is gone. with the shoes that were apparently on the floor. no one knows what happened to the shoes. >> i don't understand why if there's blood on a wall, even if it's near a crime scene, you would think testing that blood would be a pretty obvious thing to do. >> it's crucial.
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investigation 101. >> it certainly is curious. i also would like to put in a vote for at least the possibility of incompetence and mistake rather than some sort of malevolence. >> sure. >> for more on the story go to cnn.com. just ahead you may soon be able to phone home in the middle of your flight. what the fcc is proposing and when it could take effect. george zimmerman's soon-to-be ex-wife calls him a ticking time bock and he needs help. we'll talk with george zimmerman's former attorney mark o'mara speaking out about the latest episode. ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ [ male announcer ] the beautifully practical and practically beautiful cadillac srx. get the best offers of the season now. lease this 2014 srx for around $369 a month with premium care maintenance included. ♪
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welcome back. tonight air travel may be one step closer to getting a lot
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noisier. the fcc said today it's considering lifting its ban on cell phone calls in flight. the agency plans to take up the proposal next month. its move comes weeks after the faa said it would lift restrictions on the use of electronics devices in the air. a lot have been skeptical that it causes a safety concern in flight. also worried about fellow passengers yammering during the entire flight. i think this is a terrible idea. i'm saying this directly. >> this is not a technological issue on planes. >> it's not. >> it is a sociological issue. because airlines like emirates in europe and other parts of the world, qatar, airways, phones are already being used in flight above 10,000 feet. let's be clear about that. what the fcc is doing is having a discussion about this. they're opening the pandora's box. it will be at least a year before anything comes about from this discussion process. but it's coming.
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i'll lay you money. >> you think it's inevitable? we'll shake on it. but now already the faa has said okay, you can text you, can send e-mails and things like that. that's up to each airline when the actually start instituting that. that we know is happening. but these discussions -- so it's not a technological issue, it's just how are passengers going to respond? >> it can be done and done safely. there's an antenna in the roof of the aircraft which prevents these things from sending out too big a signal on the plane. it can be done safely and ask richard quest are you in favor yes or no. >> i would not want to hear you talking on a cell phone on a plane. i think you are quite valuable. and i think for instance, i enjoy your company. >> careful, cooper. >> i'm just saying -- >> be nice. >> i'm just saying, who wants to be sitting next to anybody
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talking on a plane? >> that's a good question. i wouldn't like to sit next to myself either. >> not saying i don't want to sit next to you. there was a quiz @richardquest. >> 95% say no. everybody wasn't connectivity, e-mails, very few people want telephony to make calls. the mat ter have you fed the dog? the pilot says we're over boise, idaho. i couldn't see it myself. nobody really wants that. >> i totally agree with that. i absolutely agree with that. but maybe somebody out there, we might find a viewer who really wants to use their phone. >> let us know @richardquest. >> you fly a lot, though. i find air travel now so difficult. first of all i feel for flight attendants for people who don't know how to fly. >> the flight attendants will have to become the referees between warring passengers. >> it's going to be exhausting for them. their job is tough enough.
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>> flying is not particularly pleasant. we have to get from a to b. in the middle seats are row 96 f it's not very pleasant. >> not going to be pleasant. >> i'll take a picture of you. >> richard quest, thanks very much. gary tuchman joins us with the 360 news and business bulletin. >> anderson, michael skakle, a cousin of the kennedys walked out of a connecticut courthouse a free man for the first time in more than a decade. the judge set his bail at $1.2 million and ordered him to stay in connecticut and to wear a tracking device. his conviction in the 1975 murder of 15-year-old martha moxley his former neighbor was vacated last month. he's awaiting a new trial. a massachusetts grand jury has indicted 14-year-old philip chisolm for murder, aggravated rape and armed robbery. prosecutors said the enindictment enindictments charge horrific acts. he allegedly killed his teacher last month. the traveling companion of an
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85-year-old man arrested in north korea believes there's been a terrible misunderstanding and hopes he's released soon. the two were on an organized tour and had boarded their flight home when new man was obtained last month. a mammoth cargo plane that landed at the wrong kansas airport yesterday took off today without incident on a runway half a mile shorter than it usually uses. an investigation has begun to determine what caused the pilot to land at the small airport in wichita 12 miles from its intended destination, mcconnell air force base. i agree with you and richard, no cell phones. we down the want them. >> you fly a lot, gary, thanks. richard is here. the plane landing at the wrong airport is kind of crazy >> yes, but it's not unique. pilots coming in to land where airports might be close to each other and on the same configuration and runway settings, the get confused. or the don't concentrate sufficiently at the key moment. the see a runway, it's got the right number on it. the start their approach in to land. cane tell you it's happened in
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the 1960s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s. there have been at least 14 incidents of this in the last ten years. >> you are a tonight of information. >> turkish airways, pan am, it's not pleasant. >> have you seen those kobe bryant ads for turkish airways? does he fly to turkey a lot? have you ever noticed that? >> all i can say is, if you think you've had a bad day at work, could you imagine ringing up the boss and saying, look, well, yeah. well, i've got something to tell you. >> all right. richard, thank you very much. just ahead, george zimmerman's estranged wife speaking out about the man she says she no longer recognizes. his former attorney mark o'mara is also talking for the first time since george zimmerman's latest legal troubles on "ac 360 later." plus that terrible day in dallas the item that became an icon and locked away. the extraordinary journey of the outfit no one will ever forget.
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what obviously had been a very difficult week for george zimmerman. first arrested on domestic violence charges after his girlfriend called 911.
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he spent monday night in jail. while sitting in a cell he was served with divorce papers. today his soon-to-be ex-wife shelley zimmerman gave her take on her husband's latest legal troubles. here's what she told katie couric. >> i don't know who george is anymore. i like to think that i married a person that was a good person. and going through the past year and a half, i don't know how that changes a person or how a person's spirit breaks. but it certainly seems like that's what happened to him. i found out that he was lying about a lot of things. and he became like a pacing lion. very unpredictable. every single day it was like adrenaline going through my body constantly not knowing what it was going to be like from
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day-to-day. >> shelley zimmerman of course stood by her husband during his murder trial. couric asked her if she had any regrets about that. she said part of her does. she also said she doesn't think george zimmerman is racist. tonight his former legal attorney speaking out. mark o'mara helped get zimmerman acquitted of murder in july. he joins me now. good to have you here. obviously you did not know george zimmerman before trayvon martin was killed. she said she saw a change in him over the course of the trial. did you see that? >> i think she's right. i think george zimmerman before june of 2012 was a gentle and kind person how shelley described and other friends described. when the fbi did an investigation to see if he was racist the talked to 40 people friends acquaintances, not a one said he was or violent or dangerous or anything but peaceful and mellow. that's who he seemed to have been before the event that happened on the 12th of -- i'm sorry, february 2012. so now if you look forward to
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see what happened to george zirmman, i know every time i say that people say what about trayvon martin. we understand he passed away that night. and with all respect for what he went through, we know that george zimmerman went through a trauma both that night, the trauma of getting beat up which happens and not all that traumatic maybe. but we know that when police officers have to shoot somebody in justified self-defense the go through an enormous amount of counselling. they're treated with very carefully. so then that wasn't done with george. rather he was turned into one of as was labelled one of the most hated men in america for having to defend his life. so i'm not sure what happens with a 28-year-old when you do that to him and put him in hiding for 16 or 18 months, but maybe this is some of that fallout. >> subsequently to his acquittal, we've seen him pulled over by police a number of times for speeding. there was obvious lit incident with shelley zimmerman now the incident with his girlfriend. what do you make of this most recent incident with his girlfriend? >> the first time everyone
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jumped to conclusions about george zimmerman, who he was and what he did. i don't know what the true story is that night. i'm not involved in that case and will not be. but what i do know is that i'm sure there's two sides to the story. i do know already things have come out about people selling the story even before that event and trying to get a tv program with it. so there seems to be a lot more behind the scenes. but i do know that the george zimmerman that existed back before february 2012 has to have been changed by what he went through. if this is some of the fallout, i'm not excusing any alleged behavior, but if this is some of the fallout the people who have said that george needs to be understood better and counsel said maybe, maybe that's a focus we can have and wait until we get the full story. >> are you skeptical of somebody like shelley zimmerman speaking out now? in divorce proceedings against her husband. there must be some reason she is speaking out now. let me just play something else that she said on katy. >> sure. >> i think when people hear of
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all these incidents following the trial, it does cast further doubt on his actions that night. >> sure. >> do you feel that way? >> yes. >> does it cast further doubt for you? >> further doubt, yes, absolutely. >> but yet? >> it casts a lot of doubt like you said. because like i've said, i don't know the person that i've been married to. so of of course i'm going to have questions and doubts, but i wasn't there that night. >> to that you say? >> well, quite honestly -- >> you don't have any doubts? >> i don't have any doubts about what he did that was absolutely justified self-defense. no question never a second degree murder. >> are you worried about him now? you're not representing him now but are you worried about him given what you've seen in. >> i've come to have a friendship with george. we spent a lot of time together in the past year and a half. and yes, i'm worried for him no question. he went through an extraordinary traumatic event that lasted 18
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months. those people want to continue to hate george zimmerman will see what he's done since the acquittal as justification. but there is no question that what happened that night of february 2012 happened because it had to happen and it was justified. >> financially speaking he seems to be in rough shape according to court documents he only has $150 in cash on hand. $2 million in debt. is part of that fees to you? >> i think most of that is. i think don west and i spent over 3,000 hours each. at that rate -- >> do you think you'll be repaid? >> you know, he has some possibilities. i think that those possibilities are probably shrinking with actions like this. so i didn't take it on expecting to get full payment. he has an agreement with me that he will if the moneys are available. >> so that's a legal defense fund that didn't really pan out? >> it took care of a lot of expenses. it allowed him to bring on the experts, allowed him to survive until trial, allowed him to pay off some of what was done. but no, there's a lot more money due to a lot of people who put a lot of of work in for george's case. don and i are two of those
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people. but we know that money is either never to come to us or far in the future if something good comes too'mara, good to have you here. most everyone remembers where the were when president kennedy was shot or what the first lady was wearing. more next. congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.
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special on the assassination of john kennedy. jackie's suit pay be on display but not anytime soon. >> in the words of president john f. kennedy she looked smashing in it. which may be why the president asked jackie kennedy to wear her now famous watermelon pink suit to dallas on november 22nd, 1963. >> the usual welcoming committee presents mrs. kennedy with a bouquet of red roses. >> it looked like coco chanel but her suit was actually a knock off, made in mech. the first lady had worn it at least six times before that fateful day. here she is in 1962 awaiting the arrival of the prime minister of al gerkz algeria with john jr. in his arms. at this function the president jokes. >> nobody wonders what lyndon johnson and i wear. >> later that day president
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kennedy would be dead and the first lady's stunning pink suit stained forever with her husband's blood would begin a long and mysterious journey. when aides suggested she change her clothes after the shooting, she refused. philip shennan wrote a book about her the assassination. >> her words, no i'm going to leave these clothes on. i want them to see what the have done. >> hours later mrs. kennedy continued to wear the suit during the emergency swearing in of lyndon johnson as president. >> that whole scene is obviously just surreal. she arrives in the cabin in air force one in these clothes covered with the president's blood. and expected to stand there and witness the swearing in of her husband's successor. >> mrs. kennedy was still in her suit when she arrived later that evening at andrews air force base in maryland where she received her husband's body. the president's brother at her side in the middle of the night. once at the white house, her
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personal aide put the suit in a bag so mrs. kennedy wouldn't have to look at it. then sometime in 1964, the blood-stained suit arrived here at the national archives building in the nation's capitol. it came in a box along with a handwritten note from jackie kennedy's mother on her personal statione stationery. it read simply "jackie's suit and bag worn november 22nd, 1963." all this time mrs. kennedy's pink suit has been forbidden from public view and will likely stay that way for a very long time. in 2003, after her mother's death, caroline kennedy gave the suit to the people of the united states with the understanding that it wouldn't be put on public display for 100 years until 2103. and even then, the kennedy family must be consulted before any attempt is made to display the suit. all an effort to avoid sensationizing that horrible act. >> and it's believed only a
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handful of people, maybe only as few as two, have seen the suit since. along with the suit and also hidden from view in the new archives in maryland, the blue blouse mrs. kennedy wore in dallas, her stockings, blue shoes and blue purse. what the don't have is the first lady's pink pill box hat. >> the hat is a mystery. the hat apparently goes to the secret service initially and the secret service turns it over to mrs. kennedy's private secretary, and then it disappears. it has not been seen since. >> the archive is making every effort to preserve the suit. it's stored in a windowless vault in an acid-free container where the air is changed every 20 minutes or so to properly maintain the woollen cloth. it is kept at a temperature of 65 to 68 degrees, which is best for the fabric. the suit's story, a perfect ending for a first lady who craved privacy after so much pain. randi kaye, cnn, los angeles.
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time now for "the ridiculist." tonight we have a story from portland where the manager of an apartment complex has a simple problem. even though there's a fence around the property of the building he manages, martin connolly says something keep getting in there and stealing the weeds and greens.
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someone i should say. martin told locals in station katu in this part of southeast portland it's not animals that are the problem. >> in some neighborhoods there are coyotes. some have skunks. here we're dealing with sous chefs. >> that's right. he says sous chefs are hopping the fence, stealing his herbs and using them in dishes at trendy restaurants nearby. he says his neighbor saw one guy stuck on the fence with a bag of crick chickry leaves and you can always tell if they've been there because he'll see beard nets left behind and other evidence. >> i found this recipe lying back here the other day. pdx pork belly. sometimes smells like brisket. >> martin says basically no herb is safe. >> you've got grape leaves, of course, for dolnas and such. >> this is all just wild? >> yeah. some dock, i believe. most of the cat mint i think is gone. i think the got most of that. >> and they're just throwing stuff in bags? >> in tupperware or bags, yeah.
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>> this whole thing seems like a joke and appears to have started out as kind of a tongue in cheek post on redded asking for solutions. the guy says the problem itself is real. even though it sounds like "portlandia." >> the chicken is a heritage breed. woodland-raised chicken that's been fed a diet of sheep's milk, soy and hazelnuts. >> this is local? >> yes, absolutely. >> let me ask you one more time. it's local? >> it is. >> the hazelnuts. is it local? >> how big is the area where the chickens are able to roam free? >> i'm sorry to interrupt. i have exactly the same question. >> four acres. >> his name was colin. here are his papers, okay? >> he looks like a happy little guy. he runs around. >> very local. especially when garnished with locally stolen herbs. look, even if part of it is for entertainment value frankly this is the best story of its kind since the days of beatri kprk
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px potter. >> i feel like mr. mcgregor. >> sous chefs stealing, it's a fable for the ages and for "the ridiculist." that does it for us. thanks two or three emotional experiences burned into his heart and his brain, and no matter what happens to me, i remember november the 22nd as long as i live. >> there has been an attempt on the life of president kennedy. >> they are combing the floors of the texas depository building to find the assassin. [ gunshots] >> oswald has been shot at point blank range fired into the stomach. >> police are working to the assumption oswald's murder was to shut him up. >> the element of a simple