looks. 24 hours in atlanta's international airport go, to cnn dot k cnn.c cnn.com/atl24. >> go make great memories and shauk for sharing your time us with. >> "stast the te of the union w candy crowley" joins right now. >> after decades of hos dilt and distrust, a diplomatic breakthrough with iran. six world powers have sealed e deal designed to slow iran's nuclear program. >> tease are substantial limitations which will prevent iran from building a nuclear weapon. simply put, they cut off iran's most likely paths to a bomb. >> tehran is celebrating the agreement which will ease sanctions. israel is issuing dire warnings.

>> included in the geneva last night is not a historic agreement. it's a historic mistake. it's not made the world a safer place. >> israel doesn't rule out a strike against iran and congressional critics are already blasting the agreement. so what next? i'll ask the deal maker secretary of state john kerry plus we'll talk to three influential house members from the intelligence and foreign relations committees and two former eer intelligence chiefs this special edition of "state of the union." >> mr. secretary, thank you for joining us. as my first question, a lot of people say iran is just going to be north korea. a country that agrees to stop its nuclear ambitions in order to get sanctions lifted. and then secretly goes ahead and continues with the program.

why do you think iran is not north korea? >> they have engaged in a negotiation. they have committed to have daily inspections of certain facilities. they have committed to restrict their activities with those inspections taking place. and in addition to that, they have publicly committed that they are not going to build a nuclear weapon. north korea already has. and this tested. and will not declare a policy of denuclearization. we ought to be exploring and testing the possibility of a diplomatic solution. let me be clear, we do that with eyes absolutely wide open. we have no illusions. you don't do this on the basis of somebody's statements to you.

you do it on the basis of actions that can be verified and more over we have kept the basic architecture of the sanctions is staying in place. there is very little relief. and we are convinced that over the next few months we will really be able to put to the test what iran's intentions are. >> so you at this point trust the new president in iran to be able to follow-through. are you convinced that he has the power to do so? because you know that the hard-liners in iran certainly are singing a different tune than has been sung at the negotiating table. >> absolutely. the simple answer is none of this is based on trust. it's not a question of trust.

it's a question of having the verification and the intrusive inspections and the insights into the program and the commitments that can be held accountable so that you are, in fact, creating a fail-safe mechanism by which you are making your judgments. when you're dealing with nuclear weapons, it's not an issue of trust. as the old saying goes if gorbachev and reagan, you know, trust but verify. verification is the key. president obama and i said from the beginning we're not going to verify, we're going to verify and verify and verify. we have to know to is a certainty that so that israel, gulf states, ourselves nobody can be deceived by what is taking place. >> one of the things they're

unhappy about is there is a difference between halting a march toward nuclear capability and dismantling the mechanisms you need to build nuclear bombs. here you have halted it but not dismantled it. >> yes, of course. >> what do you say this morning to the saudis, to the israelis who will say that they feel less safe, that israel, in fact, is threatened? >> well, israel is threatened by what has been going on in iran. but i believe that from this day for the next six months israel is, in fact, safer than it was yesterday because we now have a mechanism by which we are going to expand the amount of time in which they can break out. we're going to have insights to their program that we didn't have before. we're going to have a destruction of the 20% enrichment. we're going to have a limitation

on the low enrichment at 3.5%. we're going to have a limitation of the building and installation of centrifuges. israel, if you didn't have these things, would be seeing iran continue on a daily basis to narrow the breakout time, to continue to do the things that it's been doing. so i believe that israel, in fact, will be safer, providing we make sure that these sanctions don't get lifted in a way that reduces the pressure on iran and we don't believe they will be. there's very little sanctions relief here. the basic architecture in the sanctions stays in place. so we believe very strongly that because the iranian nuclear program is actually set backwards and is actually locked into place in critical places

that that is better for israel than if you were justining to go down the road and they rush towards a nuclear weapon. >> mr. secretary, what is next vis-a-vis the relationship between the u.s. and iran? do you see normalizing relations down the road? what is possible in that one-on-one relationship? >> nothing is possible until we solve the nuclear problem. the only down the road is over the course of the next six months while we work to try to solve the nuclear program. if it can be solved, hopefully establish a basis for proceeding forward on other things. but right now, we've made it very clear that the international community requires resolution of the united nations resolutions that have been passed, the questions that the international atomic energy

agency has. all these things need to be answered. and so we're trying to set up a process by which we can verify, know what we're doing, restraining the program while we negotiate the comprehensive deal. >> and finally, mr. secretary, iran's behavior has been a bad actor in the region and elsewhere. not just because of its pursuit of a nuclear weapon. but because of its relationships there, how it backs assad, a man that the u.s. administration and many other countries don't think should be there. so there are other things that certainly speaks to iran's behavior. do those things have to change? do you think that's a part of this process in order for you to feel that there is a way to have somewhat normal relationship? >> well, obviously over the longer term an for any opportunity to really change the relationship, of course those things have to change.

hezbollah is a terrorist organization. fundamentally a client of iran. hezbollah is in syria. iran is engaged in syria. these are issues of deep concern to all of us. in addition to that, we've seen activities around the world sponsored by iran on occasion that violate the norms of international standards and behavior. there are lots of things regrettably that we still have to work on. our hope is that the president and the foreign ministers want to build this different relationship, want to show in clear ways as we go forward that the program is peaceful. and we are open. what president obama has said is we are open not to being duped and tricked and led down the primrose path but open to setting up a verifiable, clear

process by which everybody, israel, our friends in the region, we particularly, the international community, our allies, the p-5 plus one can all make clear determinations about what iran is doing in terms of its nuclear program and that it is going to live up to the highest international standards. that's the beginning of the way in which you change the relationship. and that is where we've all decided iran included that they're prepared to try to make steps in order to change this relationship. >> secretary of state john kerry, thank you for your time. i know it's been a long dayment we appreciate it. >> thank you. thanks so much, candy. thank you. i'm joined now by jim sciutto, cnn's chief national security correspondent and has followed these talks from the very beginning. jim, so six months, where do we go from here in terms of the

next step in this deal? >> well, arguably this is the tougher time. they've had weeks of very difficult talks to get to a temporary agreement, a temporary halt to the activities here. now they're going to have that six months to talk to get longer term agreements, longer term limits. you look at centrifuges. iran agreed to add no more centrifuges. now they get to the issue of dismantling some of them. iran agreed not to keep building it. they have to get to the discussions of tearing it down. they hit the pause button. now they're going to have to be talking about hitting the delete button. that's going to be some tougher negotiations over the next several months. >> one of the things about this agreement is it was not made between anybody in the neighborhood of iran and not the saudis, not the other arab gulf states, not the israelis. and this has raised a lot of issues because we have yet to find a state in that region that thinks this is a good idea. how does the president approach that? >> no question.

their approach, their response has been and secretary kerry said that early this morning when the agreement came through this is just a tactical disagreement with israel and others. but really it's far more fundamental than that. kerry said this makes the world safer. benjamin netanyahu this morning says it makes the world a more dangerous place. that's a fundamental disagreement. clearly the administration decided they can live with that. i also think there is a false impression that israel's response to this deal is monolithic. there are others, even in the israeli security establishment who have come out and said they're open to talks as a way forward. that that might indeed, if it's verified and if iran abides about this agreement may make them safer. there is disagreement within israel just as there is disagreement inside the u.s. as well. we'll see that playing out over the next several months as we watch these longer term talks take place. >> jim sciutto, thank you. when we return, president obama's guidance to congress over imposing new sanctions. >> now is not the time to move

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joining me now, the chairman and ranking member of the house foreign affairs committee, ed

royce of california and democrat elliott angle of new york. gentlemen, thank you both. you both have been quite skeptical of this deal before it was made. you remain skeptical now. but let me ask you first, chairman royce, what is the alternative to at least starting this process? >> well, remember the administration opposed the senate putting the key oil sanctions on iran which the senate -- u.s. senate did in 100-0 vote and it's those sanction that's got iran to the table in the first place. so our feeling in the legislation which i and engel passed out of the house with 400 votes was that we needed to continue to ratchet up those sanctions until iran was willing to agree to give up it's right to enrich. until they do that, they're still on the road to having the capability for undetectible nuclear weapons breakout. and that's the bottom line.

we just feel more pressure needs to be brought in iran rather than to make this deal and take the pressure off of iran which will allow them to go forward with their economic revitalization in the country. >> right. >> that isn't in our interest. >> congressman angle, it's there. there is this agreement now. and the president has said quite clearly, now is not the time for more sanctions here. >> it's dpisisappointing to me t iran will still be allowed to enrich while they're talking. i wouldn't that i is a prequek it is to any talks without allowing them to dismantle the centrifuges. the agreement is here. we have to make it work. and i think we need to be very, very careful with the iranians. i don't trust them.

i don't think we should trust them. but i think that we have to make it work. i agree with chairman royce. it's important to ratchet up the problems with the iranians so that they -- >> now though? during this six-month period, do you think now is the time to ratchet those up? >> no. i think it makes it very difficult to continue the sanctions. i have been in favor, obviously our bill was passed 400-20 a few months ago. i think we could have played good cop, bad cop and congress really believes that sanctions should happen. i think it's difficult for the senate to do sanctions now. that's what brought iran to the table in the first place. i don't think you make them bargain a good faith by going squishy. >> congressman royce, one of the things that senator lindsey gram said last night to cnn was we're still going to be do this and what we're going to do is say here rts sanctions. they're going to go in place in

six months and we'll decide how successful the six months has been before the sanctions are waived. is that a good idea? >> i think what senator graham is saying is that it would be sort of a ease that is hanging there. >> right. >> is that a good idea? >> yes. yes, of course. you have to be able to hold their feet to the fire on these negotiations because once before we had an agreement with iran. they walked away from it. and the iaea had an agreement with iran and iran went ahead and built an enriched facility building and lied about that. so unless we understand that the people who run in iran and send the protesters out to chant death to america last month in the streets, unless we understand, you know, that they are capable of cheating and have in place the ability to really ratchet up, we're going to find

ourselves exactly where we found ourselves with north korea which will be that nuclear capability will be in the hands of the ayatollah. >> when you look at iran today, do you see the new president acting like a moderate? helped open the way for these talks? or do you see the ayatollah khomeini who is shouting, you know, death to america. death to israel? which is the real iran? >> i think the supreme leader is the real iran. >> the one who said death to america? >> yes. just last week he called israel a rabid dog. saying the rhetoric hasn't stopped. look, he is no moderate. no moderates were allowed to run in the iranian election. all the moderates were xluted. you had six hard-liners that were allowed to run. he is the most moderate. but he is still a hard-liner. it's not clear to me that he can make the decisions anyway.

it's the supreme leader, khomeni, who can make the decisions. he hasn't shown any kind of moderation whatsoever. look, i think we have to use the next six months to make sure that iran dismantles the program and that they have no right to enrichment. they keep saying even as we speak they have a right tone richment. that troubles me. >> chairman royce, let me ask you as a final question. at this moment, what do you think is the worst that can happen over the next six months? and there is really not anything right now that congress can do, is there? >> well, here's the unfortunate thing. we have put enormous pressure on iran and it was having an impact internally. some of the polling out of the country showed that two-thirds of the people wanted a western style democracy. right? and you had hyper inflation. you have mass unemployment there. you have a situation where iran was having a hard time funding

the type of instability they like to create throughout the region. one of the reasons that other regimes throughout the middle east are concerned about our approach is that they feel in letting up on iran and lifting sanctions we're going to reempower iran to be the head of the middle east, to take that money and continue to support hezbollah, hadmas, attempts to overthrow saudi arabia and other governments around that region. >> they're still a sponsor of terrorism. >> they are a state sponsor of terrorism trying to get a bomb. >> thank you so much, chairman ed royce, ranking member elliott engel, both of the foreign affairs committee. i appreciate your time today. when we return, should the iran deal spark an arms race in the region? could it? house intelligence commit mike roth serz next.

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with me now, the chairman of the house intelligence committee congressman mike rogers. will he me begin with something that the iranians were quite fixed on during the course of these negotiations. and that was the idea of whether or not they have a right to enrichment program which they

say would just be for nuclear power, for peaceful reasons. i want to play you something that the iranian foreign minister had to say. this was after the deal was announced. >> we believe the current plan of action in two distinct places has a very clear reference to the fact that iranian enrichment program will continue and will be a part of any agreement now and in the future. >> whoa. i must say the secretary of state said people are going to tell you there's, you know, written in here the right to enrichment and there isn't. so already they disagree on what the agreement said which is the point i guess. >> we have just rewarded very bad and dangerous behavior. so think about what this agreement does. it says you can continue to enrich. that's what the iranians believe. and they have made no changes,

no changes in developmentst nuclear weapon program. i can tell that you with a high degree of certainty. here is the leading nation state of terror who tried to commit a political assassination right here in washington, d.c., as they believe can contribute to the deaths of hundreds of u.s. soldiers in iraq and afghanistan. who continues to be the main driver between the incredible brutality that's happening in syria, very active around the world with other political assassination attempts and what have we done? we have taken away the one thing -- we've given them enough breathing room, the one thing that brought them to the table. what is worrying about that is bipartisan opposition in congress, very strong bipartisan option to the deal. our arab league partners don't like the deal. israel doesn't like the deal. and we may, we may have just encouraged more violence in the future than we have stopped. that's why i hope we reconsider where we're at. >> right, the deal is there.

there is not much congress can do at this particular point because it's a deal. i think the question, though, is that they are freezing their much -- much of their program at any rate. we are, if we are to believe this plan, allowing unprecedented access to some of the reactor sites, et cetera. i want to play you something that john kerry said in advance of the criticism he knew was coming. >> finally, i know that there are those who will assert that this deal is imperfect. well, they, too, share a responsibility. and that is it to tell people what the better alternative is. >> gladly. you know, the president opposed the first round of sanctions. they work on iran. the second round of sanctions

passed with huge bipartisan support. this was the third round. and what we're finally starting to do is start to impact the elite in iran, the business class of iran. and what they've done, now remember, they're overburdened. they're active. they're supporting hezbollah, terrorist organization, operating in syria. they have all of these pressures and finally we were getting to the place that was actually going to really bite. they were going to have to make the determination, is a nuclear weapon worth destruction of our country financial sfli what they have just done is stopped the second round and what is frustrating to me about this, candy, is they spent the last month lobbying congress not about what the deal would be or wouldn't be, but please don't do another round of sanctions. that tells me they don't understand what capabilities they have now and what they're seeking to do. and that's dapg us are. >> others have said, look, there are experts who say there is only so far you could go with the sanctions before you just pushed them into making a nuclear weapon.

but beyond that, we are where we are. there is a deal in place. there is an agreement, however heinous the past has been about iran. and you are privy to a lot of intelligence information that most people aren't. what is the real iran we made an agreement with? >> well, it is a very dangerous place that has the sheer determination. the rhetoric coming out of, even when i heard what the secretary recently said this is a bipartisan effort here in opposition. so they went into the deal without congress being supportive, without our arab league partners being fully supportive. that tells you that somebody is not paying attention. i argue that probably the folks would wanted the deal. why now? why release that pressure now? iran has not changed. the force which is their arm, their terrorist arm that does state sponsored terrorism activities around the world, again, including trying an attempt in the united states,

they continue their cyber efforts to attack according to public reports financial institutions in the united states. none of that has changed. the only things that changed is you have now given them a permission slip to continue enrichment. that's what the iranians walk away from. that is the one thing the whole world was trying to stop them from doing. that's why i don't understand the rhetoric on this. we know when you go down this path, we made this mistake in pakistan. we made this mistake in north korea. and now why -- history is a great judge here and a great teacher. why would you make the same mistake to a nation that will proliferate a nuclear arms race in the middle east if they're successful in getting a nuclear weapon? >> we have six months to watch this thing. so congressman mike rogers, thank you for stopping by. >> thank you. >> when we return, can iran be trusted to keep up their end of the bargain? two former intelligence chiefs are next.

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joining me now, former okay director, retired general michael heyden and the former director of national intelligence and u.s. ambassador to the u.n., john negraponti. how big a deal is this? >> i think we might be overreacting a bit both in overselling the deal and perhaps overcriticizing the deal. this is at best an interim agreement, one of your earlier speakers mentioned this is hitting the pause button, not the delete button. i think we're really going to find out whether this is important in the next six months, not now. >> and there's -- is there harm in the pause? we've certainly heard benjamin netanyahu argue there is harm in the pause because they will use it to sort of regroup. but from where you look at it,

is there harm in a six-month pause? >> well, i think you asked about is it a big deal? i think it's a huge deal in the middle east. i think it's not only the nuclear implications, but i think the question of what is this going to do to iran ease ambitions? are they going to consider themselves now with united states? does this represent some real shift in sunni-shia balance in that part of the world? >> does it? nobody in the region other than iran is a party to this. nobody in the neighborhood is a party to it. most people in the neighborhood from the gulf arab gulf states to israel are going, no. you know, as we know, iran is heavily involved in syria and with hezbollah and not on the side of the u.s. is. but how do you ever make a deal unless you start the deal somewhere? >> agreed. but as the ambassador pointed out, we've been broadly aligned

with the sunnis and the israelis in the region. and now they're perceiving thises is our moving in the direction of an accommodation, perhaps a deep accommodation for the future with the iranians. that takes an awful lot of hand holding to keep our allies onside. it doesn't appear we've done a whole lot of that today. >> it doesn't. and what is that hand holding? sure, can you hand hold, don't you also have to have actions? i mean something? it certainly seems between israel and from what we're hearing behind the scenes with saudi arabia and others that it's been very tense. >> i think what the general meant by hand holding is now an intensified diplomacy with both the gulf countries and with israel. and another point to make is this agreement deals with the issue basically of enrichment and doesn't -- as has been pointed out by the other speakers this morning, doesn't even deal with it entirely at this particular point. but what has not been discussed or has been omitted, of course, is other elements of the iran nuclear program, the delivery

systems, the weaponization, and it hasn't dealt with the question of iran's behavior in the neighborhood to which you just eluded. >> and i've asked this of everybody because also of the secretary of state. it fascinates me. there are two voices from iran. i don't know whether there's actually two parts of iran. we have this moderate and people object to that term, the new president there. and, yet, we have the supreme ayatollah. what's the real iran? you all know stuff a lot of us don't know, have seen it over the course of the past 30 years. what is the real iran? >> the real iran in terms of the actions of the iranian state, the real iran comprises the supreme leader. he's the one that will determine iran's course of action here. >> so the issue is has he changed his mind? and we don't know that for sure. >> doesn't sound like it. >> one thing i would say is that he has allowed mr. zarif, my

counterpart at the united nations, he was the ambassador to the u.n.,' loud him a much more prominent role than zarif has been allowed in the last several years. i take that as a signal. it doesn't tell you whether the leopard has changed his spots. >> do you perceive the leopard, the ayatollah, halever giving u nuclear weapons ambitions? >> well, i mean that's what we got to work hard on over the next six months. i think what worries a number of people is that we might get sort of slob of salaamy sliced and then may seek some more momentary relief from sanctions. i think we have to press hard the next six months and we go to the next step to relieve sanctions and has to be the entire package has been accomplished. >> right. here's what i also looking at this think. well, we'll get six months down

the road. and they won't have reached the entire package. but they're not going to undo the pause. well, we are making progress. and, you know, you can sort of see an iran that gives just a little but keeps what it's got. >> candy, the worst practically the worst of all possible outcomes because now what you have here is a nuclear capable state. i think, frankly, that is iran's bottom line. so what we're negotiating on is how much time we're putting between their nuclear capability and a nuclear weapon, a nuclear reality. and my great fear is this interim agreement which doesn't roll back much of anything at all becomes a permanent agreement. >> do you have the same fear, that it is -- we're not looking at an iran that is willing to give up its capability. we're just trying to push back how quickly they can get to nuclear capability? >> think of it this way -- the one reversal that has taken place is going to be the

destruction of the uranium that's been refined up to 20%. but everything else is sort of still on the table. so you really got to deal with all of that. you got to deal with it as quickly as possible. >> times are waisting when it comes to developing a nuclear weapon. gentlemen, thank you both for joining us this morning. when we come back, what the iran deal means for president obama's legacy. so, this board gives me rates for progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes.

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joining me around the table, bill burton, amy stoder, and alex. thank you all for joining us on this day after historic day. i want to talk a little bit about the president's foreign policy and a recent poll cbs news the question was what's your opinion of obama foreign policy. only 38% approved. 50% disapproved.

same time frame. cnn had a poll where we asked about approval for the interim deal on iran's nuclear power. 56% favor it. in the short-term, a president in trouble over health care and a number of other things, does this give him a breather, a bit of a break, a little boost in the polls, a little strength? >> i think it definitely needs to be acknowledged that sanctions have been successful and that the sanctions have brought us to the point where he had leverage to actually have negotiations with the iranians because they were so desperate for sanctions relief. obviously any deal is progress if it succeeds. if it doesn't, the glow of this will wear quickly. if iranians don't comply, and there's more questions about what this has done and continued opposition from israelis, et cetera, it becomes a mistake. >> any time you see the president on the world stage, captain of the ship of state, you see him as the father figure for the country. that's a good thing for the

president politically. however, i think we're seeing here the regovernization of the party. barack obama, obama care, a big government back domestically and now on foreign policy we're seeing a give peace a chance democratic party and so this democratic party is going to go into 2014 and '16 and is not hillary clinton's party. this is more of an elizabeth warren, mcgovern party. >> i think the american people appreciate leadership. that's what they saw here. a real accomplishment and progress in iran. what you have seen here is a significant shift in american foreign policy. when you first saw it start to happen back in a debate with then senator obama versus hillary clinton when he said that he would engage with iran. after that, a lot of folks like

alex of the world back then said this is mcgovern. this is not what the american people want. his poll numbers went up. trust in him went up. you'll see the american people appreciate the progress being made and they see their president as a leader on the world stage and i think that's good for the nation. >> longer term just humor me a bit. i'm a little surprised at the numbers that approve of the president's foreign policy. he ended the war in iraq. he's winding down the war in afghanistan. he did get osama bin laden. now a deal with iran which most people say they wanted interim though it may be. in terms of legacy, could foreign policy be that? we've always talked about it's health care. could it be foreign policy? >> well, the way i think republicans look at this and a lot of concerned americans is that he is retreating from the world. not exactly made america stronger. we hold the civilized world

together. it's our presence and strength that keeps the world peace. as we approached a more global kind of perspective. we're just one of many countries that is working to make the world a better place. the world is more uncertain. the middle east is on fire. the soviets are reempowering themselves. even latin america is a less stable place and now in a much more connected world, it's a less certain world for the united states at the same time he's reducing our military. we're going to 200 ship navy. a weaker america, a less respected america in a more uncertain world, that i think is going to be his legacy. >> i'll give you a chance to respond to that. i want to move onto republicans. >> i would argue one group who does not agree with you is al qaeda. the president completely

decimated al qaeda. the leadership is either dead or they can't attack the united states the way they did on 9/11. the president ended the war in iraq. he's winding down the war in afghanistan. i would say that we are a lot stronger than we were when president obama started in 2009 at this moment. particularly as we moved iran further away from getting a nuclear weapon. >> a lot of intelligence folks would argue about al qaeda. it has reconstitute ed itself i many different forms. he did indeed go after a lot of leaders and get a lot of leaders but now a slightly different end and a lot of people think scarier threat. >> no one is mentioning syria. i don't know when those polls were taken. that was a debacle. the country was opposed to intervention but weren't sure about what syrians agreed to and whether they had secret stockpiles we don't know about of chemical weapons. americans remain more anxious whether viewed as a retreat or not. that's why they look at a time

when they feel unsafe no matter how many victories. they still look at the leadership and the anxiety shows up. >> they're going to go out and develop their own nuclear capabilities. if israel thinks, well, we have to act independently of the united states, the middle east is now going to be in my view a more uncertain place. >> i want to move you on. there was a lot of chatter in social media. john cornyn running for re-election. senator. republican. tweeted out pretty immediately after the deal was announced amazing what white house will do to distract attention from o-care. he got pounded for that. i laughed because i thought he was kidding. but perhaps not. you know, it may be a distraction from obama care for a while. i'm not sure it was let's get a deal with iran so we cannot talk about health care. this week right now it's really

bad. >> i don't think any american president, republican or democrat, would risk the security of your country to distract from even the worst political disaster could imagine which may end up being obama care. however, weakness invites the wolves. when you are in a weak position politically as leader of the united states, you do maybe look for -- you're a little more open to things you shouldn't be open to. i think senator cornyn might have reworded that to be a little more accurate. >> i'll give you the last word real quick. that is there's a danger republicans can overplay their hand on this sort of thing. >> i think as long as there's democrats joining them in the congress opposing this deal, then they still have a leg to stand on. again, i think people need to acknowledge the sanctions brought us to this point. >> you get first word next time. thank you, guys. and thank you all for watching

"state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. if you missed any part of today's show, find us on itunes. search "state of the union"." >> this is "gps." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you from indonesia. a very important show for you today starting with the iran nuclear talks in geneva. we have reporters and experts to help make sense of it all. then we'll take you to mars. one of the world's most innovative minds says we need to get there. elon musk. >> what the heck is going on? >> first, here's my take. if you're trying to decide what to think about the deal struck between the major powers in iran, here's a suggestion. imagine what would have happened had there