tv Piers Morgan Live CNN November 27, 2013 12:00am-1:01am PST
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this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world and unfortunately, in airports across america. storms threatening travelers and hundreds of flights delay. what you need to know to make it home for the holidays. all of america anticipating the big day, not thanksgiving but black friday. we have the secret to saving money before you get into the mall using facebook and twitter. plus, you see what happens when animals attack but what about when they are the victims? can you trusz hollywood when it says no animals were harmed in the making of this film? and the shoe drops alec baldwin loses his tv job and has choice words for a colleague. and president obama lays down the guns on the big screen. >> when it comes to issues like gun violence, we got to make sure that we're not glorifying
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it because of the stories you tell shape our children's outlook and their lives. >> the first anniversary of sandy hook weeks away, is it team for hollywood to take the lead and keep our kids safe from guns? i want to begin with the story that everyone in america is talking tonight for obvious reasons, a storm barrelling across the country and threatening millions of american's thanksgiving plans. george howell in buffalo, welcome to both of you. pretty rough in both places. let me start with you, if i can, george howell, what is the situation in buffalo? >> reporter: piers, so we are just now starting to see the beginning. earlier, it was light snow. now as you can see now the snow is heavier, just starting to stick on the ground and anywhere
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from 4 to 6 inches of snow in the city of buffalo and then in the south towns and the southern area here. we know that they could see anywhere from 6 to 8 inches, even a foot. this plays out over night into wednesday, which could be potentially one of the busiest travel days of the year. there is concern about drivers on the road. we do know that here in the city of buffalo, though, they do have a snow plan. they are prepared to make sure that the streets are cleared to keep traffic moving. >> shannon travis, you're down in pittsburgh. what's the situation with flights? many will be flying off tonight or tomorrow. is the airport operating properly? >> reporter: well, piers, just a short while ago i actually got off the phone with an official with the pittsburgh international airport and they said to me that today and right now, actually, all operations are normal, that this is essentially, this rainfall that's happening, this is standard operating procedure. he said they are deicing runways and deicing planes and whatever,
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but again, that's standard operating procedure. they are looking at tomorrow's forecast. we're expecting for an accumulation of snow overnight tonight into tomorrow, perhaps 5 to 9 inches total, piers. so they said they will be ready for that tomorrow as george just mentioned, obviously, millions of people will be taking to the road tomorrow. aaa estimates that potentially around 39 million people across the country are going to be hitting the roads. so this winterly mess in pittsburgh and across the region, across many parts of the country, officials are telling me that i've spoken with, transportation officials are saying be careful and be care of the of the snow trucks, snowplows, salt trucks trying to clear the roads, piers. >> shannon, thank you. it's a nightmare indoors of the airports. david mattingly, chaotic down there. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, this is
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definitely the busiest time at the world's busiest airport. tomorrow alone, we're expecting to see a quarter of a million passengers making their way through this airport on to their destinations. right now it's actually smooth sailing. the weather is not too bad. i looked at the board just a short time ago, out of about 300 flights departing from here tonight, only one, just one was listed as cancelled. there were a few listed as delayed and those not delays for very long. tonight, pretty much business as usual with a light rain in atlanta. but everyone is looking forward to tomorrow. that's when the problems might pop up with everyone trying to reach their destinations, new york, philadelphia, just like you saw in the live shots just a couple moments ago from new york and from pittsburgh, those are the dominos that are being set upright now, the wind, the rain, the snow, the ice. here in atlanta, we're waiting to see how the dominos fall.
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and how they fall will impact that quarter of a million people who are coming through here tomorrow. advice that airlines are giving to everyone right now is to stay in touch with your airlines, keep an eye on your flight in case it is cancelled so you have as much time as possible to reroute and reschedule. some airlines are actually waiving some fees, trying to make it as easy as possible on people, but right now, piers, at the world's busiest airport, tomorrow is what they are watching for. >> david mattingly, thank you very much indeed. let me go to chad myers now. looking at how much of a mess this will be tomorrow. seems like the calm before the big storm is the feeling i'm picking up from our correspondent. is that an accurate assessment? >> the winds are in the 20, 25
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mile per hour range. by tomorrow, because this storm is going to get deep, bigger, lower in pressure the winds are going to be 60, piers. this is the calm. it's going to be ugly by the time i talk to you tomorrow night. the winds are strong in some spots, raleigh, almost 70 degrees now and the winds out of the south but on the backside, the winds out of the north. we have a misery influx from flightaware.come, six cancellations. that means you're going to get where you're going, you're just not going to get where you're going on time. 81 airport delays in atlanta. chicago, 76 airport delays at that point. right now charlotte, not really a big hub but 62 delays going on there, mostly u.s. air and the last one would be houston at 58 airport delays. i've not seen a map in a long time, piers, that said 776 airport delays going on at this point. here is the scary math, here is where you talk about calm before the storm. here is what we're expecting
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tomorrow when the winds blow in new york city at 40 and in boston to 60. an hour to two in d.c. two to three hour delays in new york city and maybe four hours in boston because the planes will be so far apart with winds like that especially a cross wind, piers. >> and chad, when will this all be over? when is it going to be pretty well back to normal, weather-wise? >> you know, if we get through the macy's day parade with the balloons up, we just talked about that 34 miles per hour will be the cut off. the balloons, big floats, the big snoopy's can't fly around. they have to ground them because it's too much. by 3:00, the afternoon on thanksgiving, winds down to 10 and it really is completely over, not cold but over. and friday, going home or whatever, absolutely perfect. >> so it's just really about tomorrow, isn't it? it's going to be a nerve wracking day and millions of americans have plans but one
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thing you can be certain of, chad myers will have all the information you need for this dreadful day of weather tomorrow. thanks very much indeed. >> you're welcome. new town high school football team moved up the final game of the season because of the storm today and dedicated the season to 26 victims of last year's sandy hook season and finished undefeated 12-0 record. your black friday secret weapon, how facebook and twitter could save you a bundle and alec baldwin's anger management. how he lost his prime time tv job.
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america anticipating the big day, that day of course, the day after thanksgiving, black friday, an orgy of shopping. my guests have the secrets to save before you get to the mall, jab, jab right hook. gary, how are you? >> good to see you again. how are you? >> good to see you. you're the perfect guy to talk to.
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how do we all basically save money while spending a fortune on black friday? >> if we follow retail brands on facebook, twitter, pinterest and instagram are emerging, as well. across the platforms, these are the new e-mail services, e-mail open rates are declining, these social networks are growing and so i would focus on following retailers of choice across the platforms, though not all retailers are doing a good job. >> is this now the biggest social media meets commercial saying day that america has? >> yes, but also don't forget about cyber monday. a lot of people, if these companies are playing on platforms, they are very much focussed on cyber monday. a lot of bricks and mortar stores are growing business. walmart and target and costco are paying attention and trying to grow the cyber business, cyber monday is becoming a very
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real player in this whole equation of a weekend, as well. >> how do you think companies in america, generally, the bigger ones are dealing with this new emerging super power of social media? >> it's funny. i've been paying attention. this new book i wrote is focused on this. you look at macy's, i was looking yesterday. i'm so impressed how they are focused on pinterest and instagram and best buy and sears, it's an utter disaster. they are not focussing on it. sears or best buy, i can't remember, posted their tv commercial as a facebook post. nobody is on facebook to watch your 30-second tv commercial. >> there is an interesting story this week involving gap using twitter. >> yes. >> i thought in a very imaginative and effective way after a holiday ad featured a turbine indian actor and a female model with the caption make love. it was defaced to say make bombs and please stop driving our taxis but gap react in a smart way.
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they used twitter to mind the way the ad was and changed their background to that add. what did you make of that? >> brilliance look what is going on. we're living a world where brands react and they show they care and are listening and adjust and make this public statement. their profile picture is that ad and here you and i are speaking about it to malls of people. we need to focus. gap did a great job. that's the part, piers, i'm so focused on, the active human, they fixed it. i've been following this for the last couple days. the community they responded for is responding very positively going into this holiday season and i have a feeling people that have a lot of heart with this issue will support that retailer. >> when i see high-profile people directly challenging companies for bad service or whatever it may be on twitter,
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it's interesting to see how the companies respond. i have one myself which i was impressed by, maybe it was happening because i do a nightly show on cnn but impressive when i had a problem with my yahoo mail and marissa tweeted me and said we'll fix it right away. customer service done right. not only am i happy -- >> that's because of you. the coo doesn't normally act. you're a special guy, piers. >> thank you, gary. >> you're welcome. we see more and more brands. for a living we represent more than 80 fortune 500 companies with 100 followers, with 38 followers and feel really special. you're accustomed to a higher quality service. when an average joe and jill gets engaged with a fortune 500 brand or celebrity, they go bonkers and talk about that forever. >> you're an expert in all these
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things and last time you were on my show you were lecturing me on how to be successful on twitter because you had all these followers. how many do you have now? >> over a million now. >> that's very, very good but on course, i have think about 400,000 last time. >> yes. >> i've rosen to 3.8 million. >> listen, you've talked about -- >> should i advice you now? >> it doesn't matter how many you have, it matters how many care. [ laughter ] >> so your top line number is very impressive, but how many are actually engaging is the real net game. >> so you've moved from a
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position of it's about the quantity to now it's about quality, right? >> we can rewind it and get jonathan wall to remind it. i've never been on the top line number, i've been about depth. i don't care how many follow you, buy, convert, tune in. it's about the business. >> tell me about "jab, jab, jab, right hook." what do you want people to take away from it? >> this show, walmart or gap or anybody in the world who has something to convert that if you don't give, give, give, you can't go in for the ask. most celebrities, most retailers are throwing right hook, right hook, right hook. tune in, my my book. come to my store and buy this. when the customer knows the right hook is coming, they duck. the number one way to get people to convert is put out quality content, three, four, five, six times, happy monday, lightweight things, information, some tips on whine reviews, which is my old world and then you can ask for buy this bordeaux and that's the formula. i went through 86 case studies and brands and celebrities and businesses that did it in a good way. >> what did you make of the obama care fiasco, the failings that led to the rollout being such a disaster? did they get it completely wrong who they sourced it to in. >> i'm not knowledgeable enough to talk about obama care but
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from a textbook standpoint that this is classic big government, the same way as corporate america, spent a lot of money and lack of execution. there is a bunch of entrepreneurs in austin, texas or columbus, ohio or new york, a small group of entrepreneurs that could have executed that technology for 1/100th of a price. i see it every day. bureaucracy, politics, not enough skill because the best people don't work on something like that. as an entrepreneur and hustler, that's classic. >> i want to end with a clip from mark zuckerberg talking about what he thinks is the future of our economy and how it could be orchestrated. >> fix america's broken immigration system. >> the future of our economy is a knowledge economy and that means that getting the most talented people into this country is the most important
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thing we can do to make sure the companies of tomorrow are founded here. >> is he right, gary? >> yes, and his partner in crime is really leading that charge, joe green. that movement is 100% right. i'm a russian immigrant. i was born in the former soviet union. i was lucky to be here and i'm going to pay a heck of a lot of taxes by buying bright. you got to bring the best and the brightest. i agree with him 1 billion percent. >> good to talk to you. the book is called "jab, jab, jab, a right hook." tell your story in a noise see social world. thanks for coming on, gary, talk to you soon. >> thanks, man. the president's message on hollywood and guns and alec baldwin's hash words for a former colleague.
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when it comes to issues like gun violence, we got to make as you were that we're not glorifying it, because the stories you tell shape our children's outlook and their lives. early this year they talk about what hollywood can do to help keep our kids safe in the wake of sandy hook. those conversations need to continue. >> president obama today, jeffrey encouraging tv and movie big wigs, is that the answer to america's gun problem? joining me now christi smith. welcome to you.
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what do you think of this? it's an interesting point. to me there are many facets to america's gun culture but can hollywood shut its eyes and ignore its responsibility? >> i don't -- i mean, i think obama coming and speaking is a good thing. i don't think any harm is done in that and i think the industry as a whole will benefit from taking pause and thinking about violence but ultimately, i think this is a personal responsibility issue. i think it's a mental health issue. just because i watch a quentin tarantino movie, i don't think i'm uma thurman and i'll slash people up with a machete. >> they glamorize the best of hollywood, did they have the debate of using weapons, that kind of thing there? >> i think there is always a debate about what goes into the
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issue and how far are you pushed and getting behind that decision of why you would print a certain image or not or holding back. i think that dialogue is always happening. it's continuing to happen. >> it's interesting survey released last week but the public policy center, the highest university that said the amount of gun violence and the pg 13 movies have tripled since the rating was instituted. in 2012 it exceed gun violence in the r rated movies. that cannot be a sensible way for it, can it? that young kids in america are being pumped with more gun violence imagery than fully fledged adults? >> i think it -- you look at grand theft auto, it made 800 million the first day it was
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released. that's more than gravity. the movie, is, you know, will maybe go on to make that much money but the video games, these -- the public wants it and i think that, you know, the argument can be made that we are numb to it, that -- but i think that can be made across all mediums. >> smoking is almost non-exist tablet in movies now and yet it used to be prevalent you watched movie the and everyone is lighting up all the time. they did it for public health reasons. you could argue that gun violence is a more important over riding public health issue that nobody in hollywood seems to be doing anything about. quite the opposite, they are increasing the amount of gun violence and imagery in the movie. >> you learn you smoke cigarette, you'll get lung cancer. if you watch this film and see violence, you'll go out and commit violence. it's two separate issues. do i think it's important to have the dialogue? . we can always do more. washington is always coming to hollywood to ask for help. hillary clinton was here three weeks ago asking creatives in town to come up with ways to
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initiate public service and childhood initiation and the good part about it is its actually bringing attention back to gun violence because i would like to talk about it in terms of a mental health issue. i think that everyone is kind of skating over that a little bit. >> isn't the problem as i see it, someone like adam lanza, the sandy hook shooter was obsessed with violence video games. if you're mentally unstable or ill, that is the point the violence on screen can start to blur the lines with somebody between fantasy and reality, but 99% of people watching it like me or you or my kids or whatever, we're absolutely fine. it's the tiny percentage who are unstable. how do you deal with the fact that it's such a small fraction of people? >> exactly. i mean, how do you get -- how does america deal with the mental health? how do you deal with that? that, you know, disenfranchised
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youth that's sitting there playing 15 hours a day and only communicates with his mother, i think, i read that report via e-mail and she only relates to him by shooting guns, so she's able to get the guns because she's technically not mentally ill and he has access to them. >> if you take cars, for example, you know, back in the '50s and '60s, drunk driving was a massive problem in america killing tens of thousands of americans a year and then eventually, they brought in regulations for driving cars from seat belts to tough drunk driving laws, to all sorts of registrations and insurance policies and so on. really made it very hard compared as it used to be and there is a reluctance to do something like that with guns, which i find baffling. >> i would agree with you. i think we have a bigger problem in the future with all these, you know, young adults, men and
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women coming back from iraq and afghanistan and doing two or three tours of duty and actually really seeing horrific things in real life and have done them, have witnessed them and how do we deal with them coming back? you know, that is a bigger issue, and yes, i think hollywood, we're always good for a debate and this is a subject where there is kind of, you know, subjective, so it kind of goes back and forth and arguments can be made for both sides. >> was hollywood pleased to see president obama? or has the warmth and joy of his original great power faded over the years? >> judging -- i don't know if you were out and about in l.a., judging by the traffic -- >> that is always terrible. they shut down the streets. a lot of stars to me have become increasingly critical of him. do you think his bubble burst in tinsel town?
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>> ultimately, no, i don't think. >> when push comes to shove. >> when push comes to shove they have no trouble getting people to pay for expensive dinners and events from different communities, i would say no. do violent videos and movies influence violent people. i'll talk to a top psychologist and his expert view.
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sure that we're not glorifying it because the stories you tell shape our children's outlook. >> do violent movies and video games influence disturbed shooters like adam lanza. michael joins me now. welcome to you, michael. it's a very difficult issue because like i said in the earlier segment. 9 9% of people that watch these movies or video games do so without the risk of doing anything but what do we do about the 1%, james holmes, the aurora shooter, or adam lanza watching call of duty all night long, what do you do with the tiny percentage who are unstable and blur the lines? >> look, i think you raise some very interesting points and questions in the last segment but with that said, i have to
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reject your question to say that the idea. this isn't about a 99 and 1%. it's recognizing the role that the entertainment medium has in cultivating the at risk person for mass violence and if anything, whether it be mental health or guns or the entertainment industry has a role as part of that, they have got to step up and man up and change. and it's great for the president to raise this issue because hollywood's role is incultivating and engendering role models of destructiveness. people that are unfortunately all too easy to relate to, you talked about taking cigarettes off screen and how hollywood has changed. well, killers used to be
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presented as monsters and now they are not only presented as people we can relate to like tony soprano but people if you look at a series like breaking bad that you root for, you root for them to kill. you root for them to get away with and culturally what it does is engenders an idea good is bad and bad is good and when you combine that in the developing adolescent who is saturated with violent and violet imagery and has the escape of video games and with your last guest, it's time for honesty. the entertainment industry owns the games industry and the gaming industry make them addictive. is it time to make meth labs legal? let's get honest here. when i have a case and work on cases and i have to clean up the messes and hollywood doesn't. when i have a case of an attempted on a mass killer trying to get into the nbc studios after watching natural born killers ten times, do i need a research project to tell me he's drawing influence.
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when i have a case in the south of a child who is beheaded, behelded and the mother's immediate response is did he behead him because she knew that was something that he pulled out of a video game, do i need a research study who tells me this person who identifies with violence is not influenced? we are infusing vulnerable people with a culture in which parents are substituted by not just video games, but video games in which people can take a point of view approach to destroying everyone around them, they are incentivize by getting points and no more important person, the most devastating mass killer in history wrote a manuel how to use video games as a training manuel, which adam lanza studied and this is exactly the way the phenomenon goes. they compile spread sheets because adam lanza wanted to be
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on the next spread sheet. it doesn't make mental awareness -- >> we have -- >> but the -- >> we've got system pictures i want to show you. >> no way, no way and it won't solve the problem. >> okay. you made some great points here. i want to show you pictures from adam lanza's layer, the best way to describe how he was living. a variety of violent video games, ununcommercialed movies. the aurora shooting we know he was obsessed with batman the joker, that's what he was dressed up as. there clearly was a link and i know from my twitter feed which has blown up with this that there are many, many, people who get enraged at the suggest there can be any link between gun violence in movies or video games or whatever and reality. it's just not possible. >> okay. >> how do you deal with changing people's minds? >> again, i think that one has to recognize how badly do we want to solve this problem? i can tell you and look, this is from professional experience. in the next couple years with all the murders i work on, and i work on more murders than most forensic psychiatrists, i'll find more of a link to violent video games than cocaine, illegal, add fed means. that doesn't mean they are going to be killers and yet, we have illegal drugs because we have concerns about the brooder effect. you tell me. i can tell you as a parent, i
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get enraged at the suggest there can be any link between gun violence in movies or video games or whatever and reality. it's just not possible. >> okay. >> how do you deal with changing people's minds? >> again, i think that one has to recognize how badly do we want to solve this problem? i can tell you and look, this is from professional experience. in the next couple years with all the murders i work on, and i work on more murders than most forensic psychiatrists, i'll find more of a link to violent video games than cocaine, illegal, add fed means. that doesn't mean they are going to be killers and yet, we have illegal drugs because we have concerns about the brooder effect. you tell me. i can tell you as a parent, i
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would have -- i have no desire to expose my child to these video games. do you as a parent watching this, do you think your child is going to get into harvard watching grand theft auto. do you think your child would suffer if every person watching this would make a bonfire and burn every game and vow i will never pay for another violent movie because i'm going to suck the economy out of hollywood and then you'll get socially responsible movie making because there is no thought into it -- >> what about -- >> titillating violence that impresses the violence -- >> what about -- >> violent gore two or violent gore three. >> what about parental responsibility. i look at adam lanza and i have to say she lost her life and that's tragic but nancy lanza, adam's mother was grossly
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responsible and in the raising flags about this boy. he is blackening out his windows, she's taking him to gun ranges and he communicates by e-mail the last few months of his life and she doesn't bring anybody in to tackle a ticking time bomb. what do you say to other parents who might have concerns about their son? should they do? >> i happen to be very sympathetic to mrs. lanza because i know what it's like to deal with people who have developmental disabilities, who are periodically violent, what cannot be committed and what happens in some homes with parent whose are struggling with children with behavioral disorders, if they can get somebody to a doctor, a young male refuses to take medicine and there is enough of a climate of fear in the home that the illness ends up controlling the
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home. we don't know what happened in the lanza home, but we do know that she's the only person who stepped up to the plate to love him. his father that nobody blames wasn't around and i'm not blaming his father. i think it's really easy and very rich of us to say of a woman who had to be the father, not just the mother, and who had to find a way to connect with a child who refused to connect in hindsight that we can necessarily point a finger at her. we don't know what went on in that home, but i will tell you this, he obviously proved himself to be a scary person and before he became a monster to the rest of us, he was scary to her. in my professional opinion, you have to deconstruct the mass killing event by when it happened. it happened that day to a person who forbade her access and we don't know if she stumbled across something that had been his secret buried and number toured for awhile and he recognized if i don't embark on
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this mass killing now, she's going to expose it because she says tomorrow we're going to go and talk to somebody and he says, oh, no, we're not and i have worked on cases like that before. a fantasy of mass killing is hidden, it is protected, and it is protected to the point where the mass killer will do anything, even kill his own mother in order to keep from being discovered. now is that what happened here? >> michael -- >> i think we can get to the bottom of this with further scrutiny. >> michael warner, i got to leave it there. fascinating talking to you. many, many hot button points and a great debate to be having. >> i appreciate you raising the questions because if we don't have this discussion, it's going to happen again, and i appreciate the president being honest and starting to face up to it. >> michael warner, thank you very much. hollywood tells you no animals were harmed in the making of this film. can you trust them? the shocking charges of what may be happening off screen. that's next.
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with the camera, you know what is going to happen to you, don't you? come on. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> beginning of the end of alec baldwin's tv rant, his show "up late" has been cancelled. he had hash words, he made his comments on the air. i dispute half the comment i made but they killed my show and i have to take some responsibility for that myself. we've invited al lick baldwin to come on his show. alec you're welcome. i don't think your a homo phone and i think there is over reaction. shocking charges like movies life of pie.
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the tiger in that movie almost drowned onset. that's not all there are charges no animals were harmed in the making of this film isn't always true. michelle turner has the story. >> reporter: you've seen this disclaimer hundreds of times before, now a shocking report by the hollywood reporter alleges that the american humane association's trademark accreditation isn't always credible. take life of pies tiger king for example. despite his prowl and digital twin the publication says king nearly drowned after shooting ocean scenes. in an e-mail an ahh monitor on the set said quote last week we all host bleeping killed king in the water tank. >> to me this is a dirty dark secret of hollywood by not reporting incidents and deciding they can deal with it internally and not bring to the law enforcement.
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they are come police sit. >> reporter: the aha says the e-mail of the employee in question led the movie studio disputed the claim that the tiger nearly drowned saying quote we take on-set safety very seriously." animal rights groups, however, say this is a problem that has plagued the movie industry for years. in 2012, while the stars of "the hobbit" walked the red carpet, spectators lined the streets, not to cheer but to protest. >> the hobbit was monitored by the aha. that goes to show that even when these film that is use animals are being monitored, just tragic deaths and injuries do still occur. >> but "hobbit" director peter
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jackson says their disclaimer holds true. >> over half the animals in this film are computer generated. and there was no abuse and no maltreatment of animals on this film. >> and on hbo's tv series "luck" charges of animal cruelty. even those aha was present on set, the production was eventually canceled in 2012 after three horses died. hbo owned by cnn's parent company time warner released this statement saying quote while we maintain the highest safety standards possible, accidents unfortunately happen. and it is impossible to guarantee the won't in the future. >> the aha released a lengthy statement in response to the hollywood reporter saying in part the article paints a picture completely unrecognizable to us or anyone who knows american humane association's work. far from allowing abuse or neglect to occur we have a remarkably high safety record of 99.98% on set. with me is a writer for the hollywood reporter who wrote the
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story. a compelling account. what do you say about their reaction? pretty well point blank say massive overreaction, almost all of what the do is perfectly safely. >> what else are the going to say in we got busted? they quibble with a few minor points which i can quibble right back on. the larger issues of transparency, oversight, responsibility, it's just not there. >> where does the blame in your eyes lie? is it with the aha or studios or a bit of both? >> it's a bit of both. but aha are the ones who need to stand behind the credit no animals harmed. after the story has come out they are coming up with these very lawyerly cleverly distinctions about what is and is not harmed. most of the americans, the public would say when an animal is hurt or dice that's harm. >> the hollywood reporter obviously a very prestigious magazine. a lot of influence. what kind of reaction have you had from the hollywood industry?
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>> i think people are fairly shocked that this is going on, that this monitor service is not what it claims to be. there have been on the inside of the industry there have been worries and conference about the aha, that's something i'd be on looking into a number of months ago. what i found unfortunately was deeper and wider than i expected. >> turn to alec baldwin. everyone seems to be talk about alec baldwin almost all the time. he's been let go apparently a mutual decision, most people believe it was more msnbc's end than his. so his show's gone off for a few weeks over these alleged homophobic rant at a paparazzi. alec baldwin's record on things like gay rights and support of gay marriage and so forth, the guy is not homophobic. he lost his temper with the paparazzi and said stupid things, he contests some of it. how will hollywood react to this? the love alec baldwin but this hits a sore nerve with people.
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>> i think hollywood is very familiar with alec baldwin's outburst. i think this is just another bump in the road for him with that community. whether the wider public will feel that way is to be determined. >> does it damage him in the long run or is it just alec being alec do you think? >> i think it damages him, certainly in the short run, i think the question is obviously has these political aspirations. what will that do for those down the line? >> you made an interesting point i thought which was that martin bashir, a fellow briton air at msnbc got into hot water over a comment he made attacking sarah palin over her analogy of slavery to modern day issues. and he's still on the air even though most people found his comments reprehensible, including many people at msnbc. alec baldwin said his comments in a street where a paparazzi was trying to take pictures of
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his new baby, and he says different situations. are the? can you draw that distinction? >> you know, i think that's an interesting point. i think that people feel as though the got the raw and uncensored alec baldwin. the question is is that a voice the want to trust every evening arbitrating important issues on msnbc. >> garrett, good to see you. terrific scoop. i commend everyone to read the whole report. fascinating insight into the treatment of animals in hollywood. very important issue. thanks for bringing it to public light.
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tomorrow night i sit down with mike tyson, the one-time undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. everything's on the table. his drugs, booze, the incident about the ear. >> it doesn't make any sense. it's a game to some people. i don't think it's cool. i saw one guy hit a woman, hit a girl from behind. >> would you ever when you grew up on the streets of brooklyn would you ever have done something like that. >> oh, yeah if i was on the robbing spree, robbing somebody when i was a young kid i've done something like that. but this is just for fun. these guys, there's just no purpose of doing that.
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>> always compelling mike tyson. that's tomorrow night for the hour. that's all for us tonight. "ac 360 later" with john berman filling in for anderson cooper starts right now. is causing a hollywood travel mess in so much of the country. it has now been updated to nor'easter status by the national weather service and it looks like it's going to get worse before it gets better. the northeast is supposed to get some brutal winds tomorrow which i am sure you have been told is one of the busiest travel days of the year. this could cause a major domino effect if the airports in new york, philadelphia and boston start seeing big delays. right now there are about 180 flight cancellations nation-wide for today and tomorrow. which isn't bad unless of course you were supposed to be on one of those 180 flights. on the ground, the scene is pretty chaotic with rain, snow,
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