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where will president obama and his family live? you might be surprised who might decide that big family issue. and we start in scotland. police have confirmed eight people were killed when a police helicopter crashed into a pub. more than 30 people had ton rushed to hospitals in glasgow last night. investigators spent all day searching for victims. richard quest has the latest. >> reporter: miguel, according to one of scotland's most senior politicians, this was the news they had been dreading but expecting. having spent most of the day with only one person confirmed dead, everybody knew that the number of fatalities would rise, and now they're saying eight people perished last night. nor are they able to say whether that is the final total, because as the head of police scotland
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put it, the helicopter is in the middle of the building, and until they can remove it, they don't really know what's underneath. removing the helicopter will be an extremely difficult, complex and intricate operation. the building is unable and they want to insure their maximum safety before they try any further operations. finding out what happened and why the helicopter fell out of the sky in such a disastrous way last night, again, the police describe that as a sensitive and complex investigation, one that will take many weeks, if not months. tonight, though, in scotland, the people are mourning the fact that eight people perished. the number may go higher, and flags in the country are at half-mast. miguel? >> many thanks to richard quest. i'm now joined by gordon smart, who is the editor of the "scottish sun" newspaper, also an eyewitness to this. gordon, what did you see last night? >> i was about to drive home for
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the evening. it was about 10:15 in the evening. i work late. i was on the sixth floor, the open top level of a multistory car park, and i could make out the noise of a gargling engine, like a misfire engine, like a car running out of petrol, but incredibly loud. so, i could hear this noise above me, but i couldn't see what it was. then i looked around, and in front of me, about 1,000 feet, between 500 feet and 1,000 feet in the air, i could see a helicopter in distress, and then suddenly, it just completely lost power and fell from the sky like a stone and just dropped, tumbled over -- >> were you able to see it sort of autorotating as it came down, trying to slow its descent? that's sometimes what happens with helicopters. >> no, it didn't slow. it was increasingly speeding as it fell from the sky. it was really a dramatic and terrifying moment. it really did plunge at huge, huge pace towards the ground, and it was completely out of control. there was absolutely no -- i wouldn't believe for a second that the pilot was in control.
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it was rotating nose and by tail it was spinning over itself, a somersault. >> oh, lord. terrible, terrible. gordon, do you have any sense now whether or not that pilot was able to call in any sort of mayday before crashing? >> well, it was a police helicopter, and i will imagine so. there were three members -- two police officers and a civilian pilot on board. and i believe they did manage to immediately call, yes. it was very close to the police helipad, only about a mile away, but also incredibly close to the city center in glasgow, only about a five-minute walk by foot to the most popular shopping in the city. so it's incredible that more people didn't die and i was thankful there wasn't a fireball or explosion. it landed behind the building, so i couldn't see it actually hit the ground, but i was just waiting for an explosion and to be knocked off my feet, but it never came. was really an eerie silence, an
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oddly serene moment after the crash. >> very lucky, then. i was in glasgow, i know how festive the bars are and -- was this an official concert or just sort of a small, private affair? how packed was that bar? >> it was heyday, a famous day over here called black friday where everybody has the money and you start the christmas shopping, all the christmas parties. it was a big time as well when people were enjoying the night in glasgow. it really was quite a night where people were getting into the swing of things. it's a famous music event, over 120 people. had that helicopter caught on fire, i think we'd be talking in terms of hundreds of people, fatalities, hundreds of fatalities, rather than eight as it is at the moment. >> and so, you're on a sixth-floor car park. what did you do immediately after and what was the scene like there? >> well, i ran across to the edge of the car park to see if i could see one of the helicopters, but i couldn't see. but what i did see, and it was something that will stick with me for the rest of my life, was
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guys reaching, people running towards the scene, not away from the scene, people running to help, not running away from what could have been a huge explosion. after that, i made my way down from the multistory car park as quickly as i could and tried to get there myself, but i couldn't do that. the police by that point had cordoned off the area, and so, i made my way back into the office and turned around the newspaper to get a new front page together as soon as possible. it really was dramatic, really dramatic and terrifying evening. >> i take it you have not left the office. how are things in glasgow now? >> it really is a terribly dark day for glasgow. and this is normally an incredibly happy time of the year over here. a lot of people struggling to come to terms with what's happened. and the worst part is the fear that more casualties, more fatalities will be announced in the following days. it really is such a huge shock, something you don't expect to see, other than the movies.
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it's a tough time for glasgow and something that's hit the city hard. we have been in a situation like this before in the past where we had a terrorist attack on the airport in glasgow and the city showed incredible, incredible strength and courage to get through that, and it will be exactly the same with this. people get tough and notoriously courageous. our country's famous for it. >> indeet. i know a few scots myself. our best to you, gordon smart, and our glaswegian friends. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. we are less than nine hours from the deadline for the healthcare.gov website to be up and running smoothly for the vast majority of users. the disastrous launch two months ago has hurt president obama's approval ratings, and he knows he has a lot of work to do to rebuild americans' trust before he ends his term. he spoke with abc's barbara walters last night. >> you have said that you would rather be a good one-term president than a mediocre
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two-term president. which are you? >> well, i think the best would be a good two-term president, so that's what i'm going to be shooting for. every president in their second term is, you know, mindful that you've only got a limited amount of time left, and you want to make sure that you are squeezing every last ounce of energy that you have to try to deliver on the commitments you made to the american people. >> so, will the federal health care website be fixed by tonight's midnight deadline? it all depends on who you ask. the "washington post" headline said, "healthcare.gov will meet deadline for fixes." the "wall street journal" went with "health site is improving but likely to miss saturday deadline." and "the new york times" went with "health care site rushing to make fixes by sunday." cnn's tory dunnan is in washington to help us sort it all out. technicians took the site down overnight for maintenance. it's back up now. all is well in washington, or are the president's fixers still
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scrambling at the last minute? who has the headline right, tory? >> well, miguel, you said it perfectly, depends upon who you ask. what we do know is that they've been working 24/7 on the upgrades and fixes, and this is a politically important weekend for the president, but it's hard to tell whether the administration is meeting his promise that the site will be running smoothly for the vast majority of users. they're not telling us, and there's no real way for us or other experts to find out, other than from hearing stories from users -- that's, of course, not at least until tomorrow when we know the white house is planning to hold a conference call with reporters. so far, we've heard that with the scheduled upgrades that happened last night and ones that are scheduled for tonight, the administration says that they are on track to meet the goal. now, we also know that the white house has ways to measure the site's success or failure, but by the same token, we don't really expect them to release those numbers right away. also, we're told even if the site is determined to be functioning smoothly, some insurance company insiders are telling cnn there still might be
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problems with the back end of this site, saying that some customers a customers' personal data is getting mangled or even lost. so miguel, as i said, i think it depends who you ask and i think that will be the story for a few days until we get answers from the administration. >> tory, just for note, i always say things perfectly. >> yes, you do. >> so, what are we seeing so far today? do experts think it's looking better? >> well, i did talk with a computer security expert who's been following this very closely. i asked him if he's already seeing changes today. take a listen to his answer. >> absolutely, yeah. just even going to the site. and it shows in the design changes that they've done. it looks much smoother, it looks more like what you see high-capacity websites look like. and some of the resources that they're using certainly indicate that they've put a lot of thought into scaling for volume. so, yeah, i think people will notice an immediate difference in how the site looks. >> so, miguel, if that is true,
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that would be a great thing. that's one person's opinion. important to note, of course, healthcare.gov was shut down overnight for fixes, and there is another scheduled upgrade tonight. so, let's see what it looks like in the morning. >> all right, tory dunnan. my guess is, there's a lot of this going on in washington right now. >> finger-crossing. >> yes, yes, yes. baby toes as well. thank you very much. coming up at the bottom of the hour, we will talk with an expert on first families. we'll get the inside scoop on what life's like for the obamas at the white house and what they talk about around the dinner table each night. that's still ahead, 3:30 eastern right here on cnn. from a record week on wall street to just how much u.s. shoppers helped the economy during black friday sales, the latest from the markets coming right up. but next, the chilling video of an elderly u.s. war veteran who has been held for more than a month inside north korea. what is the north accusing him of doing? ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot,"
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a new video released by the north korean government shows a captured american apologizing for korean war crimes. 85-year-old merrill newman has been held for about a month. the korean war veteran was taken into custody just minutes before his plane was scheduled to take off last month. cnn's karl plive with the lates. >> reporter: north korea state report accuse veteran merrill newman of host yifts toethz north korea, saying he infringed insort and dignity and slandered the socialist system. all that sounds a little like political mumbo jumbo until you look at the detail of exactly what they're auccusing him of. north korea is focusing heavily on his record as a u.s. officer, saying he engaged in espionage, subversion and also sabotage activities during the korean war and also significantly during a
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short period after the war ended. in a taped and written confession, mr. newman says that he did train and advise a covert and clandestine group of anti-communist party who operated behind enemy lines inside north korea. that unit is the 6th partisan infantry regiment, a group military historians say was controlled by the united states and united nations and also coordinated closely with the cia. fast forward then to october of this year, and that is when the north korean authorities say that mr. newman returned to north korea on this tourist package and attempted to re-establish contact with some of the former guerrillas that he had trained and also with their families and their descendants. in his taped confession, mr. newman does say that he asked the tour guide to help him make contact with some of those people. now, of course, we don't know whether this statement by mr. newman was made voluntarily or
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whether it was coerced. we don't know whether the words are his own or whether the text was written by the authorities and simply passed to him. we also don't know whether the names and events alluded to in that text are, in fact, accurate. what we do know is the statement was signed on november 9th, two weeks after he was arrested as he prepared to leave north korea. we don't know why it's taken the north korean authorities three weeks to make this public. now, some of the political analysts i've been speaking to say that this confession could satisfy the north koreans for propaganda purposes, and they now may be preparing to release mr. newman. one should, however, of course remember the case of kenneth bae, a korean american who was arrested in north korea a year ago now and was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. even though some political analysts suggest that north korea may now be preparing to release mr. newman, they suggest
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that pyongyang may insist on having some diplomatic contact with the united states to work out logistics and may also insist on handing him over to a high-level delegation. miguel? >> karl penhaul in tokyo, thank you very much. china and japan squabbling over an area above the east china sea. south korea is also upset. now the u.s. has made flights through the controversial air space. pentagon correspondent barbara starr has more. >> reporter: miguel, the pentagon is emphasizing, it is not trying to escalate tensions with china, that these flights into this restricted zone by the u.s. military are routine, scheduled flights. it's what the u.s. military does out in the pacific. for its part, china's rhetoric continues to be pretty frosty. they're saying they will continue to monitor any flights coming into this zone and that they may try and send their fighters up again to intercept the planes to identify them.
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the frosty rhetoric aside, the real question may be how long china can keep this up. they don't have a lot of midair refueling capability, their radar warning aircraft are few. it's going to be hard for them to continue to monitor this zone. that's something the u.s. is going to watch very carefully. now, vice president joe biden's set to arrive in beijing to sit down and talk with chinese officials about all of this. administration officials say biden will ask the chinese straight out, what are your intentions, what are you trying to do here? biden will try to, of course, de-escalate all this. the u.s. says adamantly, it does not believe that china is looking for a military confrontation over this disputed air space, but the worry is that in the coming days and weeks, if this continues, if they send up more of their own aircraft, there could be some kind of miscalculation, some kind of accident, and that tensions may
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only rise further. miguel? >> thanks to you, barbara starr at the pentagon. a florida man says the police won't leave him alone. they've arrested him at work dozens of times. why the police say there's a reason it keeps happening. and the dow just wrapped a record month in november, so why are some experts worried that markets have been doing too well?
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consecutive weekly gains, not bad. even the nasdaq is over the 4,000 mark for the first time in years. but wall street is one of the few places where good news equals bad news. i'm joined by wes, a certified financial planner and host of "money matters" on wsv radio here in atlanta. so, wall street had a great month, the markets are getting a great year. it's going gangbusters. should we be worried? >> this is always the time to be more worried. so, it's much easier to be buying into a market when we're down 10%, 20%. it's a lot tougher to be buying into a market where we're at an all-time high. typically, markets correct, on average, once a year, 10%, or we get 20% corrections every 2, 2 1/2 years. we are long past due any significant corrections. >> i don't like that sort of talk. so, you think that we could have a correction coming, but that could be sort of devastating to people who are in the market, yes? >> well, and that goes back to if you are an investor right now, you've got to not get lulled to sleep by how good the stock market has been, and we're
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up 27% on the s&p 500, up 24% on the dow, and we haven't even had a 5% correction since june of this year. so, i think that investors can tend to forget that the markets correct and they don't go straight up and they can't go straight up forever. so, i just want to make sure investors don't get lulled to sleep by how good this market has been. >> but there's a lot of confusing data out there. the markets are way up, housing is up, there are new job numbers, or jobs are climbing, not per happen as much as they'd like, but yet, americans feel pessimistic about the future of the economy. what is going on there? >> i think that's part -- part of the reason is that the economic data's still mixed. there's nothing that's gangbusters in this economy. housing is good but not great, jobs are good but not great. consumer confidence, depending on which poll you read, is okay. but we're still a long way from the euphoric days of 2006 and early '07. and consumer confidence just isn't back to where it was. >> so, if there is a correction in the markets, what investors
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might be most vulnerable or concerned about that? >> i think where people get caught the most is they end up, in a year like this, in a stock market run that we've had for almost five years now, to the tune of 150%-plus, a lot of investors tend to get overweighted in stocks, and it makes sense because that's what's been growing the fastest. so, i want to make sure investors don't ignore some of the safer areas of the market in their 401(k)s. >> those closer to retirement age, for instance. who is really going to be paying more attention here? >> right, who's vulnerable? if you are 60 to 65 and within a year or two or three of retirement, this is not the time to be 100% or 80% or 100% in stocks inside of your 401(k). >> all right. and for regular investors, how can you mitigate the risks? are there places you can park your money so that you can hopefully wait for a better day? >> so, we all have to remember that if you're in your 30s and 40s and even 50s, we have decades to go as investors. so, technically, you should be
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an investor for almost half a century. so, what really works as an investor is being consistent, slow and steady is not exciting but still wins the race. as long as americans can try and fight their way into saving 15% to 20% a year -- and i know that sounds like a lot for many people, but if you can do that as an american and you can ride right through the market's ups and downs, you'll be in a good position to retire and maybe even retire early. >> wes moss, i'm sure i have 150 more years of investing to do, so it's all good. >> that's a good time frame. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me, miguel. >> take care. arrested for trespassing at work. a florida man says it's happened to him and now he's fighting back. an incredible cell phone video captures two women brawling at a mall on black friday. you won't believe the weapon one woman uses on the other. oh, dear.
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well, on black friday, those bargains, they come with brawls. >> ooh, ooh! >> stop! >> oh, dear. the two women were fighting in a mall in northeast philadelphia. after the two hit the ground in a scuffle, you can actually hear the crackle of a stun gun, if you can believe it. and you can see the sparks fly. it's unclear what happened that started the brawl. the women were apparently unhurt and they were escorted out of the mall by security. this is a walmart in odessa, texas, and those shoppers are coughing because they got hit by pepper spray. walmart officials say a police officer was forced to spray the unruly crowd as they rushed to get tablets and headphones. a convenience store worker in florida is taking the cops to court. he's sick and tired of getting arrested for trespassing at
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work. john zarrella has the story. >> reporter: take a look at this surveillance video. it shows earl sampson being detained in a miami gardens, florida, convenience store, and then led away. now, get this, sampson was arrested 27 times at this convenience store and convicted of trespassing. he's been detained many times more. there is, says sampson and the store owner, a bit of a problem here. you see, sampson works at the store. he spoke with cnn affiliate wfor. >> they always stop me, going in my pocket, ask me for my i.d., my name. >> reporter: in all, sampson has been stopped and/or arrested at various places 288 times. a year and a half ago, store owner ali saleh decided he had had enough, so he installed the surveillance cameras. over and over again, saleh says his cameras recorded police
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stopping and frisking and detaining not only his employees but customers, too. >> i feel abused. i believe i live in america, and you know, america has a constitution. it has to be to protect the citizens. >> reporter: saleh, sampson and several local residents this week filed a federal lawsuit against, among others, the city, the mayor and the police chief, charging civil rights violations. the suit reads in part, "miami gardens police department officers have used and continue to use race and/or national origin for the purpose of stopping, frisking, searching, seizing and arresting principally black males." before the suit was filed, miami gardens police issued a statement to local news stations saying they are investigating the allegations and that they take seriously complaints against their officers. during the past couple of years, miami gardens has been going through a rash of shootings and killings. the store sits in a high crime area. it's not clear whether the store
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is being singled out more than others, and if so, why. the city's mayor says there is a zero tolerance policy. >> he knows that his store is a source of problems in that community, and he knows that we are trying to clean up that community. >> they're supposed to protect and serve, but you're not protecting and serving, you're harassing. >> reporter: the lawsuit seeks a change in city policy and financial compensation for sampson, ali and the other plaintiffs. according to the suit, if you took all 288 times sampson's been detained and/or arrested, that amounts to about once a week for the past four-plus years. john zarrella, cnn, miami. >> thanks to john down there in miami. a hollywood producer could look at his own life to inspire his next movie. the man behind "pretty woman" says in his spare time, he was a spy. and next, the obamas will call the white house home for the next three years, but where will they go after that? we'll tell you who gets the
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edward snowden strikes again. they're reporting he revealed top secrets that they spied on the g-8 supports in 2009 and 2010. they say the spying operation focused on ensuring meeting sites were secure. both supports took place in toronto in june of 2010. neither of the u.s. or canada has commented on the report. the word is out about a hollywood executive who had a secret life as an israeli spy. if this was just another b-list producer, it probably wouldn't make the headlines, but as cnn's entertainment correspondent nischelle turner reports, he's quite a big fish in the movie-making business. >> reporter: justin timberlake,
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vince vaughn, brad pitt and angelina jolie, just a few of the stars hollywood producer arnen milchen has rubbed shoulders with, but he should be made into a movie. the israeli-born businessman behind "12 years a slave" -- >> i have a business proposition for you. >> "pretty woman" and "fight club" says he spent years as an israeli secret agent and arms dealer. in a stunning interview that aired monday on an israeli investigative program, milchen detailed how he was recruited in the 1960s to israel's bureau of scientific relations, where he helped gather technology to further israel's still unacknowledged nuclear program, saying, "i did it for my country and i'm proud of it." milchan moved to hollywood in the 1970s, but he suggested his efforts on behalf of the israeli government didn't end completely. milchan indicated other big
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hollywood players were also involved, saying, "when i came to hollywood, i detached myself completely from my physical activities to dedicate myself to what i really wanted, film making, but sometimes it gets mixed up." the 68-year-old milchan owned new regency films and has produced more than 120 movies, working closely with directors such as martin scorsese and oliver stone. he forged an especially close relationship with actor robert de niro, who was also featured in the israeli television program. >> i did ask him once. we spoke about something and he told me that he was an israeli and that he, of course, would do these things for his country. >> so you want to come to hollywood, act like a big-shot without actually doing anything. >> yeah. >> reporter: in a story that seems rim nicent to last year's true-to-life film "argo" that depicted the cia/hollywood
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this just in. the white house is responding to the americans being held captive in north korea. national security council spokesperson kaitlin haden says "we remain deeply concerned about the welfare of the u.s. citizens held in the custody of the dprk. kenneth bae has been in dprw custody for over a year. we also urge the immediate release of merrill newman, detained more recently. given mr. newman's advanced age and health conditions, we urge the dprk to release mr. newman to return home and reunite with his family." north korea accuses the 85-year-old mr. newman of spying and other subversive activities. in a new video released today by the north koreans, the korean war veteran says he's sorry for killing civilians and troops. montana is fighting to put a former teacher convicted of rape back behind bars. stacy dean rambold only served a month for sexually assaulting a
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older. >> come on! one, two! drill team is so good for children as far as the discipline and the structure. >> that's how you want things to be in your life. on point, intact, decency and in order. >> november 2011, my dad was shot and killed. i went from as and bs to straight fs. i started getting into a lot of fights, hanging with the wrong people. >> we all have a responsibility to these kids to extend that hand and say, baby, i'm here, you're not by yourself. >> she's like my second mom. >> did you complete your homework? let me check it. who else had homework tonight? >> without her, i really don't know where i'd be right now. >> work, work! >> this has changed my life around, period. i'm very proud of myself, going from the gpa of a 0.5 to gpa of a 3.0 in one year. that is amazing. my mom, she's just speechless.
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>> when you take your test. >> i don't think people really understand how important it is to have these children succeed. >> you're definitely going to make history, do you understand that? >> yes! >> so clap it up. >> i'm in your teacher's face, i'm in your face, i'm in your parent's face, if i need to be, because i want the best for you. come on! going right to the end! that can be rough, but it's tough love. i go above and beyond because somebody did it for me. don't give up! and you should continue to pass on the blessings. when you do this, you get great rewards that's better than money. it's so much better than money. >> well, i feel a little more motivated. i'll bet she could motivate a lot of people, better than an alarm clock, i'm sure. fantastic. don't miss the incredible act of generosity from the cnn hero of the year that brought the audience to its feet.
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the obamas may not know where they'll live after they leave the white house, but one of the biggest voices in that decision will be the youngest daughter sasha. listen to what the president told barbara walters when she asked what will happen to the family. >> not both of them -- >> but sasha will be a sophomore in high school. >> so you may want to stay in washington because of sasha. i don't want to pin you down, but i am. >> let's put it this way, sasha will have a big vote. obviously they and michelle have made a lot of sacrifices on behalf of my cockamamie ideas of running for office and things and so i want to make sure that it's good for them. >> the obamas also said their time at home is all about their kids, and dinner conversations aren't about global had issues. they're about what's going on in malia and sasha's lives. i'm joined now by author bonnie angelo, she wrote the book about first families and
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it's called "first families." bonnie, does it surprise you that sasha has such a big vote in this upcoming decision for the family? >> i think it's really very good. these girls are going to be very careful about what they say. they're smart. and experienced little girls, and so i think it's going to be good. she might actually bring in a new segment of an audience. >> i think we all look at these young women who started there in the white house as just kids, and they've grown and blossomed into these beautiful young ladies, mahlia was 10 and sasha7 when they first got into office. what will it be like for the kids to be under that situation? >> i think as hard as it could get. i admire the family, the mothers and fathers, who go to great lengths to make it as normal for their children as possible. you do notice that in the recent head count we've had more girls,
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more daughters, than sons. and i think maybe that's easier because girls are just naturally a little more inclined to be on stage and used to it. boys are likely to be kind of rambunctious, so i think that's kind of a good quality to have that you don't expect. i believe that these girls have a greater sense of understanding their job than a lot of previous children coming into the white house have had that would help them. >> how does it compare? the kennedys, i guess the roosevelts, but really in recent history, the kennedys, how do they compare to other white houses with kids? >> well, the roosevelt boys, how i wish i was covering -- when we talk about the roosevelt boys, we remind our viewers that it's the teddy roosevelts, back at the turn of the 20th century, and they were as mischievous as
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a bunch of boys could be and the white house encouraged the boys to have fun and do whatever they wanted to do. they came through with some rollicking tales from that particular period, more so than any other children that i have studied. >> miss angelo, is it true the boys brought a pony into the white house? >> yes, yes, it is true. >> why? >> well, i think they wanted him -- he was their pony. i think they thought he ought to have a look at the white house. who knows why? what -- boys at that age which was, like, around 10 years old in that age group, what they will do for the heck of it. and bringing that pony in was one of their triumphs. >> yes. >> it has never been matched. somebody should bring a bigger animal. >> oh, dear, bonnie angelo, my goodness. thank you very, very much for being with us.
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take care. >> my pleasure, thank you. and for our "science behind series" and today we're looking into the so-called comet of the century, ison, its name, the comet had a close encounter with the sun on thanksgiving day. scientists thought it had disintegrated when it passed by but after further review, that may not be the case. here's jenny harrison. >> well, they say comets are like cats, they have tails and they do exactly what they want. and this, of course, is pretty much what comet ison has been doing. all the scientists have been wondering the last 24 hours in particular, has it survived when it actually encounters the heat from the sun and it looks as if it might have done just that. when it was first spotted it was september 2012 and two russians amateur astronomers actually found it way up there, 585 million miles away from the earth. so, the last few days the whole world of astronomy has been watching this comet as it gets
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ever closer to the sun. did it survive parahelion, that's what it's called when the comet actually literally encounters the intense heat of the sun and it looks as if it might have done just that. this cross you can see here, this is where they were looking to see it come out the other side from actually its activity around the sun, and it does look as if it might have done just that. you can see again here on the before and after, the comet ison coming up towards the sun, disappearing behind. at that point traveling 730,000 miles, and then coming the other side. and what you can see there, that streak of light, is what they're saying is possibly the nucleus that has survived. and, of course, what a comet actually is, it's a frozen mass of rock and gases and dust. and as it actually encounters the heat from the sun, it begins to warm up, and it spews all of these gases, and that is what we can see. and, of course, they can often be hundreds of miles in size
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these things. and, again, another image to show, the comet coming towards the sun and, again, in the time lapse photography you can see the blobs and that, again, is possibly the nucleus of the comet. i can show you again, another movie, the comet coming in towards the sun and, remember, the closer it comes, it begins to warm up. and it's all the gases being released that creates the incredible trail that goes on behind the comet and as i say the scientists are fairly convinced it has indeed come out the other side and we can look forward to see what sort of spectacle we have from there comet. not visible toward every part of the world. toward the southern hemisphere, never going to see it, december before the hours of dawn in the midlatitudes and december throughout the early hours before dawn and, again, after sunset. and if you're in the midreally high latitudes, it will be late december, and it will be all night long so we can just wait and see exactly what we are going to be able to spot in the
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days ahead. >> i can hardly wait. i'm crossing my fingers, jenny harrison, that it comes around. i want to see that. that will do it for me. rosa florez picks up the coverage from new york. rosa, coma esstaesta. >> you said my name perfectly. thank you, miguel. you are in the "cnn newsroom," i'm rosa flores in for my good friend, don lemon. we have a lot of news to cover. thank you so much for being with us. a helicopter crashed through the roof of a pub killing at least eight people in glasgow, scotland. a band was playing for a crowd of about 150 people hanging out in the pub when suddenly a police chopper smashed through the roof. three of the dead were the helicopter's crew.
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five others were killed inside that bar. 14 people are hospitalized with serious injuries. investigators searched into the night for others who might be buried in the rubble. and emergency officials said earlier that people stuck in the debris were communicating with rescue crews. cnn's richard quest is tracking the story live in glasgow. richard, what a horrible story. do we know how many people might be trapped inside this pub? >> reporter: no, we don't, and when the police were asked out at the news conference earlier this evening, they said basically that the helicopter had crashed through the roof of the building and was now dominating the room. and until they were able to remove the helicopter, which would be a sensitive, and complex task, they really wouldn't know what's underneath. so, we're going to have to wait quite some time, because what we've seen over the last few
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hours, we've seen a long crane. in fact, you can see it now over my shoulder. a long crane with rescue workers very gingerly going over the pub's roof, going down to the helicopter. but being careful not to disturb it because obviously the entire structure is very fragile and extremely unstable, rosa. >> and, you know, time is definitely of the essence in this situation. and i know that you've been out there. any idea from investigators what the cause of this crash is in the first place? >> reporter: no. absolutely not. the air accident investigation board which is the british equivalent of the ntsb, they are already here in glasgow, and they will be the lead authority in to why this police helicopter came down. it's quite common for the police helicopter and most days i'm told it is flying over glasgow, and it was on its approach
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pattern into the city heliport which is about two miles up the river. so, we don't know why, but the -- but the eyewitnesss say it appears to have been the sound of a sputtering of engine. the rotors appeared to have stopped, and then the helicopter just fell out of the sky. there are other people who are suggesting that actually what was happening was that the pilot was trying to do a controlled emergency landing on the roof of the building and got the helicopter on down, and then, of course, it crashed through the ceiling. it will be some time obviously before an investigation puts those details into perspective. for the moment, the way scotland is looking at this, rosa, the first minister of scotland described it as a black day for scotland and glasgow. flags are at half-mast. we're expecting prayers to be said for those injured and killed in church hads across the country tomorrow. >> oh, definitely our thoughts
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and prayers go out to them. richard quest live in glasgow scotland, thank you so much. we move on to alaska. the ntsb is investigating a plane crash last night that killed four people including the pilot and a baby. police say ten people were on board the single engine cessna. so far there's no word on how the six survivors are doing. the charter plane crashed in a remote area in southwestern alaska near st. mary's village. doctors in las vegas aren't quite sure what caused 40 adults and children at a youth football national tournament to get sick. many of the patients were staying at the rio suites hotel and casino which used shuttles to take them to the hospital with flu-like symptoms. the rio hotel said it's working with officials to figure out the cause of the problem.
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tech experts might be pulling an all-nighter at the white house. president obama has set today as a deadline to get the obama care website to work properly for most users. the president knows his legacy depends on getting this one right. our torey dunnen is keeping an eye on this for us, and will the website look radically different tomorrow? i know that's one of the questions that everybody's asking. >> oh, rosa, there are tons of questions that people are asking because all eyes are on this deadline to see what happens. but more importantly, the white house says that this website will behave differently. one measurement that's been brought up in a recent administration briefing is that pages that once took an average of eight seconds to load should now be up in just a fraction of a second. there are lots of fixes like this happening, but bottom line, the president has made the promise that the site will be running for the vast majority of users, that's the term that's been used. the goal is to be able to have 50,000 users on at the same
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time, and we're told if the number exceeds that, then people will get in what's called a virtual line. eventually they'll get an e-mail with a better time to log on. i talked to one computer security expert who has been following this very closely and i asked him if he thought the site was already working better and here's his answer -- >> without having the internal metrics and status reports of what's going on on the website, we on the outside will not be able to tell. but the people who are in charge of the system will certainly know what the load is and will be trying to balance that properly across their different servers. as an outsider, we're not going to be privy to that information. >> all right, so obviously that's sort of the big thing moving forward is when will we know if this on operating at that level. there's one other thing to point out, though, even if the site is determined to be running smoothly, some insurance insiders are telling cnn there are still some problems with the
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back end of the site, saying some customers' personal data is getting messed up or even lost, we'll see what happens in the next few hours, in the next few days for sure. >> yeah, no kidding. and one of the things is, is it's just been such a tough rollout for the website. and the white house has been saying everything's not going to be perfect. is this the white house trying to lower expectations do you think? >> oh, for sure, lower and manage expectations. they're saying that this is not like turning a switch on or off, that ultimately there could be more problems down the road. we know the white house has ways to measure the success or failure of this site but we don't expect them to release the numbers right away. however, there's a conference call that will be happening with reporters first thing in the morning, so, rosa, at that point we'll most definitely get a sense of how things are going. >> definitely so, tory dunnen, thank you so much. we appreciate it. a shooting, a stabbing, and mob brawls. this isn't your typical shopping weekend and we're not even talking about the deals.
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just in time for the holidays, marissa alexander the florida mother who was sentenced to 20 years for firing what she calls a warning shot has been released on bond as she awaits a new trial. now, the details are here by nick valencia. >> reporter: marissa alexander is out on $150,000 bond after spending more than 1,000 days in jail. the good news for her family, she was able to spend the thanksgiving holiday with them, and they expect her to be able to stick around for christmas as well. she's on house arrest and is being monitored by a device. but the case is not over just yet. her supporters from the beginning have tried to draw a parallel between the george zimmerman case in 2012 and that of marissa alexander, saying she had a right to defend herself against her abusive husband. critics to that argue there is no stand your ground defense. lawyers and the defense
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attorneys argued that marissa alexander left the house to get the gun from her car and came back to shoot at her husband. prosecutors have maintained from the very beginning that marissa alexander meant ill will against her husband. now, her new trial is set for march 31st, 2014. and legal experts say if she tries to use the stand your ground defense again, the court will deny it again. nick valencia, cnn, atlanta. now, the campaign to free marissa alexander has been a long one. supporters argue that this case goes far beyond alexander, igniting the stand your ground debate and bringing much-needed awareness about domestic violence. now, i want to bring in esther armon, he's the political commentator and the creator of emotional justice unplugged. you've been pivotal in this fight, and so your reaction to her release? >> excited. amazing that she gets to be home for thanksgiving. she gets to kiss her babies.
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she gets to run about. she gets to play music and she's not going to bed to the sounds of keys rattling in doors and the sounds of injustice, so i think it's important to take a moment and celebrate the fact that she's with her family and with her children. and i'm one of so many people who have been engaged in an effort to do this work. it's been a collective effort. it's been all across the country led by women, women of color with other folks involved and engaged. it's really important to acknowledge that these were one of the moments that activism did its work in a collective sense. >> there was a lot of traction, lot of traction all over the country. one of the things that really catches our attention, of course, is there are restrictions to her release. >> yes. >> there are several restrictions. she was released on bond. i'm glad you mentioned her children, because she is a mother of three. how is he doing? i imagine that even just being with her family in the first place is a great plus for her. >> absolutely. and, you know, having spent days in jail for doing what is essentially an internationally recognized right, that is to
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defend your body under threat. it's an extraordinary thing to know that something that should be your right is considered a crime. but she is home. she does have restrictions. she has an ankle bracelet. she has to be home 24 hours a day. she only has court mandated visits, and any other kind she has to apply to the courts for commission for. but she's not in jail. she's at home. and that's an important step in the process for freedomen and exoneration. >> let's talk about her fight in court. it's coming. >> it certainly is. >> we know that it's coming. >> yes. >> what do lawyers do you think have to do this time? >> what's really crucial about this case is understanding that that is bigger than one woman, that we have an issue around domestic violence where all of the statistics show that we are consistently going in the wrong direction. women are being killed consistently at the hands of their intimate partners and their husbands. and so this is a question about what does this country want to say about women and domestic violence and the right to defend your life against threat. and the way that the law looked
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at it was talking about immediate threat. but with domestic violence you know that the threat is one that is accumulated over a period of time, because that was not the first time, by his own admission, her husband said he violently abused every single one of the women he was involved with. and so for her to believe her life was in threat is a reasonable defense given his history. and so part of the challenge for the law is to recognize the reality that cancer and the toxicity of our relationship with violence and how it affects a woman who has been subject to the violence over a period of time. remembering she had just had a baby. her baby was 8 days old when this incident happened. there's been conversation about her baby was premature. he had beat her when she was pregnant. this has history. so to make it about a moment is to ignore the history and the cumulative history. and to ignore that we have an economy around violence and it's sustained by emotionally
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terrorizing women and making them think they don't have the right to defend themselves. the consequence is what we have now. >> we should mention we reached out to marissa alexander and her attorney said she's not ready, and understandably so, she's not ready to speak about this just yet. i'm glad you mentioned domestic violence, that's one of the things i think the overlying issues that are important to talk about in this case because a lot of women face domestic violence. and i know that that's one of the things that you're bringing awareness about -- through this case. >> yeah. one of the things -- you know, it's important to talk about domestic violence and intimate partner violence because the issue of violence affects all kinds of folks across community, color and creed. discriminatory nature of the way the criminal justice system works when it comes to gender and race, when it comes to women of color means there are additional barriers to even having the right to find your way to justice in your own home. >> yeah. it's so difficult because it is within the home.
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thank you so much. >> yes, it is. >> for joining us. we really appreciate you taking the time to be here with us. >> marissa at home, that's a good day. it's a good day. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and so much for giving thanks for peace on earth. shoppers get nasty, a shooting, stabbing, and more than a few left with black eyes on black friday. that's next. honestly, i wanted a phone with a better camera. my boyfriend has a lot of can't-miss moments. i checked out the windows phones and saw the lumia 1020 has 41 megapixels. so i can zoom way in even after i take the picture. and i can adjust the shot before i take it so i get it exactly how i want. so, i went with a windows phone. maybe i just see things other people don't. ♪ honestly ♪ i wanna see you be brave ♪ okay, who helps you focus on your recovery? yo, yo, yo. aflac.
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welcome back. americans love their contact sports, right? well, but it can be dangerous when children are on the field. dr. sanjay gupta is here to tell us what's coming up in the next half hour. >> rosa, we got a lot on "sg md" this weekend to keep you healthy and also this medical mystery. a teenager who suffers a concussion, he was never
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musically inclined and now he can play 13 different instruments. what exactly happened in his brain? we'll explain at the bottom of the hour. >> we are looking forward to that. now, black friday, it's more like black and blue friday. >> punch video on my phone. >> do you know what if you were watching a five fingered -- keep your phone out of my face here. keep your phone out of my face. [ bleep ] >> flaring tempers led to altercations across the country as millions of shoppers battled to snag deep discounts and even parking spaces. two shoppers got into it at a mall in philadelphia, one of them used a stun gun before they were pulled apart. our alexander field joins us from new york, and alexandra, my goodness, a stun gun, really?
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oh, my goodness, when did shopping become a bloody sport? goodness. >> reporter: yeah, rosa, just when you think you've seen the worst of the worst, shoppers show you they can still find a new low. check out that video from philadelphia. it starts like your average black friday brawl just a couple of shoppers battling each other. and then you see one woman pick up a stun gun. nearby shoppers thought they had seen everything. they had a lot to say about this one. >> i was definitely taken aback for it because, you know, everybody's out, you know, like, try to save money and shop for everybody and get stuff for themselves and you just don't think that people are going to do stuff like that, you know, i always wonder, like, what drives somebody to get in a fight like that, you know, and you don't just walk away. it's a holiday, everybody's got to, you know, get along. >> reporter: hard to believe it
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doesn't stop with the stun gun. in las vegas police say there was a shooting after one shopper tried to steal another shopper's deal. in texas a bunch of bargain hunters were pepper sprayed, and in virginia police say a battle over a walmart parking spot led to a stabbing. while it's worth noting millions and millions of people wanted to get into the holiday spirit and get some of the savings on black friday, there are certainly a few who literally had their claws out. >> it's unbelievable. i know that our colleague zain asher was out there yesterday and she was interviewing some folks, and they were telling her that they were expecting a lot of these fights, it's really unbelievable. let's get back to retailers. have they released any figures? is black friday truly black friday? >> reporter: well, it certainly looked like it from the crowds that we saw in those videos. we'll get the official numbers on how the stores did sometime tomorrow, but right now the projections were pretty big. we're hearing 140 million people were expected to shop over thanksgiving weekend. november and december stores
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were expecting to rake in $600 billion, $80 billion coming from online shopping and if you haven't had your fill yet, rosa, you know that cybermonday is just one way away. >> that's right. we'll have to do some shopping perhaps while we're working. don't tell our boss about that. alexandra field, thank you so much, we appreciate it. and honoring true heroes next. just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's record before we even picked him up. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms and pilots and stadiums. but, of course, it's a good listener too. [ female announcer ] today cisco is connecting the internet of everything. so everything works like never before.
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it's 27 minutes past the hour. as we enter the season of giving, we at cnn are preparing for our own holiday tradition. cnn heroes, all-star tribute. a celebration of the top ten heroes of the year and their extraordinary work helping others. it airs tomorrow night at 8:00
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eastern. entertainment correspondent nischelle turner gives us a preview of the star-studded gala. >> reporter: it's that time of year again. when giving back to others is in the air. hosted by cnn's anderson cooper, this year's annual heroes event is packed with emotion. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: and unforgettable moments. a night when hollywood's brightest stars come together. >> it shines a light on people that don't do it for the light. >> these are the people to get excited about that kind of makes your jaw drop. >> reporter: to shine the spotlight on ten remarkable people that are changing the world. >> this is like the academy awards for good people. >> reporter: like a great grandmother who used her life savings to turn a bus into a classroom. >> get on the bus, everybody. cnn hero estelle pyfrom. >> reporter: and a woman who started a drill team to keep
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kids off the streets. turning the tables on a traditional awards show. >> i'm not the only hero in this room. and none of us as heroes stand alone. >> reporter: cnn heroes puts these everyday people center stage. it's a star-studded event with a few surprises. ♪ and a heroic ending that you don't want to miss. >> the 2013 cnn hero of the year -- >> reporter: a night to gather together to celebrate the human spirit. >> and if you're like me, you are so inspired by this, and there's much more after the announcement of cnn's hero of the year, don't miss the incredible act of generosity that brought the audience to its feet. watch tomorrow night at 8:00 eastern only on cnn. thank you so much for joining me for this half hour. i'm rosa florez in new york.
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i'll see you right here in 30 minutes from now at the top of the hour when "cnn newsroom" continues. but right now, keep it right here for "sanjay gupta, m.d." welcome to "sg md," we're sure to keep you healthy this thanksgiving weekend, including family, food, and football. the question is, can football be a safer game? also there's this amazing medical mystery, this young jock who really wasn't into music at all, then he had a concussion. well, now he plays 13 instruments. how is that possible? but, first, heaven. is it real? here's cnn's -- >> i could see the scene on the riverbank. i could see them pull my body to the shore. i could see them start cpr. i had no pulse and i wasn't breathing. one fellow was yelling at me to come back.