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-- captions by vitac -- this is piers morgan live. welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. adam lanza's aunt on the day the 911 calls from sandy hook are released. >> what's your location of your emergency? >> sandy hook school. i think there is somebody shooting in here at sandy hook school. >> what makes you think that? >> because somebody has a gun. i saw a glimpse of somebody running down a hallway. they are still running and shooting. sandy hook school, please. >> marsha lanza the first person to speak out. plus the grieving father of a 6-year-old who tried to save his classmates joins me and pastor rick warren, his message for the parents of sandy hook. a lot of people try to make it sound like well everything that happens is god's will. that's nonsense. god allows everything but god
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does not choose everything. >> i'll begin with the big story, the release of the sandy hook 911 tapes days before the first anniversary of that tragic history. adam lanza's aunt speaking out. marsha lanza, thanks for joining me. i'm aware you're the first member of the family to speak out since this appalling shooting. first of all, let me get your reaction to the release of the 911 tapes. have you heard them yourself and what do you feel about the release today? >> i've heard a portion of the tapes. i don't think the timing is right for them to be released. i think emotions are very raw and too soon. i really believe they need to wait. >> you're married to the brother of adam lanza's father. you didn't see adam lanza from i think when he was three years old but stayed in contact with his mother, nancy and there are obviously many unanswered questions what happened here.
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as a member of the family, as a lanza, have you been able to work out in your mind what on earth happened to turn adam lanza into this mass killer? >> wow, it's been very trying as a family. it's been shaken to the core. yes, we all have questions, as well, that we'll never have answers to, as to why. was he a troubled child? did he get the help he needed? did he get enough help? who knows. i mean, we look at the footsteps that were taken, and yes nancy did the best she could with what she had. money was not the object to hold her back from getting him the help she needed but as a parent did she step back and look at the reality where she was in parenting skills? i don't know. >> you spoke to nancy lanza, i believe, in the week leading up to the shooting. how did she seem to you then? >> yes, did. >> did she mention any problems
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she was having with her son? >> no, she did not. she said her boys were fine, and that she was looking into education -- further education for adam. into washington, you know, they were waiting to hear back. no inclination anything was wrong or not right. >> i mean, obviously, it was a t tragedy for the family she lost her life, as well, that day but nothing can compel to the appalling horror suffers by other families. what do you as a member of the lanza family, what would you say to the families that lost their children that day and six adults killed? >> my heart goes out to each and every family that has lost a child. personally, i have lost two sons. i know what you feel. i know what you'll feel in five years from now, ten years from now. it's getting to that point of moving on from day to day, one foot in front of the other
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knowing that you will make it. you'll become stronger because of it. you'll never know why but you can't dwell on the bad times, fall on the good times. if you can reach out and help someone else in any way, that's part of the healing process and the ability to talk about it. if you don't talk, you won't heal, you can't stuff it. >> your husband, i believe, has been in contact with adam lanza's father. does he give any insight into how he's been coping with what happened? >> like any of us, it's been a real trial. my heart goes out to peter. i can only imagine what he is enduring. it was his son. i can't imagine it being one of my boys. i would be devastated. his life is changed forever. he will never be the same. and i'm sure whatever actions peter goes, he's a good person. he's a good man. he is a survivor.
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he will do all right. it's just going to take time. >> let me take you back to that awful day. where were you when you heard the news? how did you hear the news? and what was your reaction to it when you discovered it was one of your own family who perpetrated this terrible crime? >> i was at home. i had the tv on, only for noise, really wasn't watching it, and i caught glimpse that there had been a school shooting and i thought oh, no, not another one, and i went into the living room to hear and they said newtown, connecticut that didn't hit me because address i had said sandy hook, not new town and when i heard the names i thought okay. ryan lanza, yes, i have a nephew by the name of ryan but the age didn't fit. and i really wasn't sure about new town, either. well, then they came in a little bit later and said it was adam lanza and his age. i thought wow, that's when i picked up the phone and called my husband and said have you heard the news?
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he hadn't heard a thing. i said well, you need to go listen. call me back later and he did. and then we put the whole thing together, and it was like, wow, it's just -- it has shaken the family to the core. >> i mean, it must be very difficult to just have your sir name in america to be a lanza. it's an unusual name. do you get people instantly identifying you as a family member? how do people treat you? how do people treat the family generally? >> for the most part, people have been very kind to me. you know, you don't realize how much you use your name every day until you live a day where you do use it and they look at you like wow, and you can see the writing all over their face, but some say something and some don't. >> many people, marsha lanza, have been critical of nancy lanza as a mother and as a parent here because she knew her son had aspergers syndrome and a form of mental illness but didn't seem to deal with it
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properly. the house had guns, over six guns found there and she took this boy who was obviously deeply troubled to shooting ranges and so on. do you think she deserves a criticism? you knew her. >> i don't believe so. why do i say that? until you walked in her shoes as a parent with a special needs child you don't know what she endured. you don't know what she dealt with on a daily basis. you don't know what kind of help she received. was it the right thing to take him to a shooting range? i don't know. i say that for why does anybody do anything they do? i mean, she may have taken him there thinking she could connect with him, not realizing how bad things were. is this something that a light switch went off and he just lost it? i really don't know. i'm not a doctor. i'm only a parent. but, if you have a special needs
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child, i -- i guess things should have been better stored or locked or whatever. >> you, i believe, had contact with nancy lanza on the very day of the atrocity by e-mail, is that right? >> yes. >> what did you say to each other that day. >> i did. we were chatting about the boys and her going to washington looking into possible school. >> so she was really even then trying to deal with his problems you believe? >> she didn't relay how bad things were, or if they were that bad. >> what kind of woman was she, nancy lanza? >> oh, nancy was a very gentle spirit, very kind, very giving, very compassionate person, very
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generous. i always liked nancy. she was a good mom, really in tune to her kids. very thoughtful of others. >> you see the picture that you're painting is one many of her friends said before, but the criticism comes particularly on that point she was in tune with her kids that she seemed to be completely unaware of the building tension and drama that was clearly playing out in adam's head, which was compelling him in his own mind to do this terrible thing. why do you think she was not able to spot that? >> i guess my whole thoughts on the whole thing is let's back up to when he was in school and labeled as special needs. at what point in time did she feel she was not getting the services he needed, and what avenues did she go to get him the services he needed? you know, a kid, you can talk in
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front of a kid but he will always remember how you made him feel. how did he feel at that very young age being labeled something he didn't know he was? because at that age, they are young enough they can't comprehend it all and mom did it best she could with what she had, as did his father. as a child moves up in the ranks of age and he's not getting the services he needs because nobody really knows which way to go, what do you do? you do the best you have with what you have. >> obviously, for the families who lost their loved ones that day at the hands of what adam lanza did, it's going to be a difficult week, the anniversary with the world's attention focused back on there. i'm about to interview one of the families, a man called neil who lost his only son that day. what would you say on behalf of the lanza family to people like him and others as they try to come to terms with what
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happened? >> i want to say on behalf of the lanza family, we are so sorry but please don't judge the rest of us because of one. what he did was wrong, was evil, and only his maker will judge him, not the rest of us. it's not our place to. as far as the families go, don't lose your faith because that's what will keep you going. >> i know this has been difficult for you marsha lanza, and i thank you for coming out and speaking publicly, the first member of the lanza family to do it. it's not easy to do. it's obviously pretty horrendous time for you and your family, too. not as horrendous as the poor families that lost their lives that day but i do appreciate you coming on and speaking to me. thank you. >> you're welcome. when we come back, a father whose 6-year-old son died at sandy hook joins me and pastor rick warren knows too well what it's like to deal with a family tragedy in the public eye. his message for the parents of sandy hook. [ male announcer ] introducing red lobster's seafood bakes.
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neil lives with the tragedy of sandy hook every day. his 6-year-old son jessie louis died trying to help his classmates. neil, first of all, your reaction to that interview with marsha lanza, the first member of the family of the shooter to come out and speak in public. what did you make of it? >> i respect her for coming forth and speaking. i personally don't hold the family responsible for adam's actions. my heart goes out to the family the same it does for other
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victims' families. it -- i had the opportunity this past year to speak with mr. lanza. >> adam lanza's father. what was that meeting like for you? >> it was -- i felt good after i met with him and spoke with him. it was just -- i felt it was something i wanted to do, i needed to do. it wasn't any answer to why it happened or what could have been done to prevent it, but he is a father that lost a son, as i did, and i said that last year. he's carrying a heavier cross or a bigger burden than i am. you know, our loved ones will be
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honored and remembered for the tragedy, and as victims. his son will be remembered as a mass cure killer. mr. peter lanza was a very nice, very caring very respectful person. it was clear that he was somebody who loved his son and cared about his son very much. >> do you think he knew his son had deep problems in his life? >> well, from what i -- i understand stood, you know, it was clear he had some problems. it was stated that what had happened and what adam had done was something that it could have never expected in the wildest dreams, as with any of us.
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you know, looking at the report that was released a week or two ago, i don't think adam's mother was afraid of him or felt threatened by him. but i would interpret it by the report it was adam ruled the roost there. what adam wanted, adam got. >> have you been able, neil, to listen to any of the tapes that have come out today? do you have any intention? >> i was aware of what was on most of the tapes or a lot of the tapes. i have listened to parts of the tapes or the majority of the tapes or recordings. i wish they weren't released. it's just a sad reminder of what happened and clearly, the day is etched in my mind, december
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14th, from the time i left jessie to -- really 'til the time we buried him. it's etched in my mind, and the picture is there. it's at a very rough time, a very hard time. one year anniversary coming up and aside from that, we have christmas, which is -- now is very difficult time for many. >> how will you deal with christmas this year? is it gone for you something you can possibly enjoy? >> probably deal with it the same way i dealt with it last year. you know, it's -- you can only try to imagine what it is -- what it's like to lose a child and unless you've lost a child, you can't imagine. i guess, the best description i can give is it's like losing a leg and an arm and not being able to hold yourself up or
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support yourself. i, along with think thanksgivine tragedy and massacre, what happened on december 14th every day and hundreds of times a day, i think about all the memories i was blessed to have with jessie in the time. it's -- as for what i'm going to do this christmas, i don't know. i'll probably take the christmas tree down that i never took down from last year. >> you have it up the whole year? >> yeah, we never decorated it. jessie and i set it up after thanksgiving, and we were planning on decorating it that weekend, and he had wanted to get a collection of ornaments that him and i had that were our own, and that was our plan for the weekend, and we never were able to do that.
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>> the president of the united states came down to new town soon after what happened, and he promised he would get action done on guns. as we sit here, he's failed, absolutely nothing has been done to change any federal gun law in light of what happened. how do you feel as one of the parents about that? >> i don't think he failed. he's been very support tiive wi the vice president towards the families and new town and -- >> are words enough from the leader of your country? i mean, do you not want to see some legacy come out of this, which actually goes someway to try to prevent it happening again? >> i do. i -- it's not just a gun issue. there is many things that have to change to make this change, happen and make this country a safer country.
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people have said it's not a gun issue, it's not gun violence. it's mental health issue. it's gun violence. it happened with a gun. mental health is a big part of it. it's all -- there's many aspects that have to be addressed right down to the school security. looking at the report that came out from the state's attorney, you know, adam was clearly somebody who had a problems, how could you have identified him? how could you have gotten him more help? the way he lived, the way his room was described and shown and it's -- the mother, his mother should have picked up on that and realized there is issues, under lying problems there. for him to insist that she wasn't allowed in his room and for her to respect that, i -- i think there is a lack after
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discipline there. as for taking him to the gun range, i think it was a poor choice, poor judgment. she clearly didn't feel threatened by him. but, you know, i -- he clearly had access to the weapons. there was no forced entry into the gun safe. so, i feel that was poor judgment but, you know, i feel in time there will be changes that come through the background -- background check. i feel confident at one point it will come to be a reality and i feel that the mental health is being addressed, school security has already changed. something that should have been in effect long before this tragedy happened. >> well, neil, it's good to see you again.
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going to be a very tough week for you, i know, and all the families and a very tough christmas, i'm sure. i wish you all the very best with you and your family. >> thank you. >> and i hope to talk to you again soon. >> thank you very much and i wish you a very happy christmas, too. >> thank you. coming next, someone no stranger to tragedy but has a perspective on how to deal with it that inspires millions. pastor rick warren's message. yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief! [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price.
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who knows too well of the pain of suffering a tragedy. he questioned god's plan and tonight he had a message for the grieving parents of sandy hook a year later. >> thank you. >> let me get your reaction of the release of tapes from the sandy hook massacre. the 911 calls a motive and a lot of controversy down there in new town. what is your reaction to the fact the tapes have been released and what do you feel for the family whose had to go through this? you yourself had to go through a terrible tragedy involving the death of your son and a gun in the last year. >> yeah. anybody whose heard these tapes, has to identify with the emotions. it takes this whole issue out of simply a sterile news issue to the heart rending, gut wrenching
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feeling if what would i do as a parent i heard that my child had just been shot at supposedly, in a safe place in a school like that. particularly during the holidays, everybody is more sensitive in the holidays. my heart goes out to those parents. my heart goes out to the people who had to receive the calls, to the first responders, all of those people that terrible crisis brings it fresh again a year later, how this was as you know the second biggest shooting, single shooting in american history next to virginia tech. and i'm -- my first -- when i hear these things, i pray for the families, and i pray that god will give them the same kind of comfort in this season that i'm expecting god to give me comfort in the loss of my own son. >> i was told by somebody down at new town that your wife has actually been invited to speak on the anniversary at sandy
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hook. is that true? >> yes. >> how did you feel as a family about that? >> yes, it is true and actually i'm praying for kay, who i know, i talked to her earlier today and she's studying for that. and she just could not say no. it was a mom whose lost a son, and to be invited to speak to -- there's a bible study there that last year i guess as was mentioned in the news they studied her book "choose joy." they were studying that book during the time and so she's been asked to come and speak to them this year. >> what do you say, rick, to any of those families? i've interviewed many of the families from sandy hook who lose their children that day in particular and indeed, the six adults who died as well. what do you say from a religious faith point of view to bring any comfort? it's clear to me when i speak to some of them now that time has not been a healer yet. >> yes, i think the first thing that we need to say is that god
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is grieving, too. a lot of people try to make it sound like well everything that happens is god's will. that's nonsense. god allows everything but god does not choose everything. if i choose to descend, god didn't make me do that. god didn't take matthew to take his life, matthew took his life. everybody is going -- in a crisis whether a tornado, hurricane, shooting or anything, we're either going to run to god or run away from god. probably about half as many do either, okay? i have found that running away from god doesn't bring comfort. when we look for explanations in the tragedies of life, we never find them. people are going to say well a year later, are you over it? you're never going to get over it. you're never -- i have cried every day since matthew died, every day of my life. it's not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength.
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it's a sign of love. it's a sign i care. the death of my own son made me sensitive, more compassion et. i can tear up easily when i hear about somebody else going through and so my heart goes out to these people. >> rick, it's been a few months since we last sat down. it was an incredibly heart-wrenching interview with you and your wife and an extraordinary reaction and it touched a nerve. do have somebody's whose job every day is to comfort everybody else to have this tragedy of the suicide of your son hit you as a family resignated with people. how are you coping since i lost spoke to you as a family? >> i'm doing the same things we talked about in that interview. i'm spending a lot of time not just with friends who support me but also in solitude, in prayer, thinking in grieving and when i feel an emotion, i let it come
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out. if you shake up a coke bottle and you don't let it out, it's going to come outside ways and grief is actually a good thing. it helps us get through the transitions of life. it makes us help make through the difficulties and so, what i've actually been spending a lot of time doing lately is helping other people because when we did that interview, people who either had a family member mentally ill or had family member whose taken their life came out of the wood work, and either following me on facebook or twitter or instagram or e-mails, all of a sudden both kay and i have received, i'm not exaggerating, tens of thousands of letters, calls, notes from i get it. i know what you're going through. many times i don't have an answer for these people, just i understand. i understand. i understand what you're going through. >> let me just play a clip.
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this is kay talking during the interview we did together this is about matthew and the issue of guns and mental illness. >> okay. >> when did you finally get -- >> a month before he took his life. >> do you know how he got it? who he got it from? >> he told me that -- he told me everything, and he told me that he had found somebody finally on the internet who would sell it to him and it had to be super incrypted and this whole process and he begged me to help him because he couldn't figure out the process. there is so many, so many moments of terrible choices with mental illness. >> i mean, even since then, we've seen other incidents, the naval yard shooting, the suicide of the virginia senator creed deeds and so on. a lot of incidents always come back it seems to this lethal cocktail of mental illness and ready availability of guns. >> uh-huh. >> no one seems to be tackling this. what is the answer? how do we get to grips with
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this? >> i think one of the reasons it's hard to tackle so because there are so many guns out there. in the first place, there are as many guns in america as people. 300 million or something plus guns. i don't -- i can't see any foreseeable future. we're going to be able to pull those back from law-abiding citizens, the constitution allows them to have it but while i may not be able to do everything, what can we do to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people? i don't care whether you're conservative or liberal or anywhere in between. everybody will agree guns do not be long in the hands of mentally ill people. >> what does it say about the great super power of the world that here we are a year after 20 elementary school children were literally blown to pieces in their classrooms and the president stood there a few days later and said i will take action and here we are a year
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later, and absolutely nothing has been done. nothing. in background checks brought in. no ban on assault weapons. no ban on high-capacity magazines. nobody in washington has done anything to try and prevent this happening again. >> yeah. >> what does that tell you about the state of the debate about this? >> yeah, i don't know -- i don't know how they are going to attack it politically. i do know that as a pastor, i have to attack it anyway i can, and one of the ways is deal with mental illness area. why are there so many people mentally ill out there not getting the help they need? we have since the regan administration, the number of facilities, the beds for mentally ill people has dropped -- i wouldn't give the statistic but ten-fold easily.
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>> skanld lacandalous. >> it is. if you care about homeless people, you have to care about mental illness. if you care about police people dealing with people on the streets, then you got to care about mental illness because they will tell you a lot of these crimes -- if you care about vets returning home from war, you got to care about mental illness because a sizable number of veterans are dealing with posttraumatic stress syndrome. so mental illness touches into far more areas than simply that person is crazy and right now whose caring for them is the families. we've talked about this before. there is not enough support for families mentally ill. the pendulum swung the other way to care for the individual rights of privacy. i had a son who my son gave me permission to talk to the doctors about his mental illness and gave kay permission and the doctors wouldn't talk to us for
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i have my studio audience and pastor gust. if you want to join me, tweet me at piers morgan. setting aside america's obesity program. the daniel plan, 40 days to a healthy life and dr. mark and dr. daniel. welcome to you gentlemen. >> thank you. >> a trilogy here. coming at me from all fronts. >> a trilogy. >> a trilogy. a trilogy. so rick, what is it all about? is the daniel plan? how are you going to get me healthier in 40 days? >> most diet plans are simplistic because they only deal with food and fitness. human beings are far more complex. it's not what you eat but what
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is you that can affect your health. we took a much larger approach, what we call the five fs, faith, what is my motivation behind getting healthy, focus, that is how do i need to think in order to be healthy, friends, which is i don't get healthy on my own. i need other people. then food, eating correctly, and then fitness, and so we added in what we call the secret sauce, which is adding in the issues of your motivation and your community that's helping you and how you think about it, changing your way in all three of these areas. >> see, i pray every week to lose weight and nothing ever happens. so i'm not sure god is listening to me. out of interest -- >> let's get on our knees right now together. >> how many people in the audience tried a diet? and on those, how many have been
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completely successful in keeping the weight down after the diet? a lot fewer hands. congratulations to those i think i saw a hand back here. it's incredibly difficult. rick, i talked to you before. you yoyoed in weight all your life. you were hit by some big issues this year, which hit many people, which caused wait increase and you had a back injury. >> exactly. >> you had a terrible loss in your family. >> i didn't sleep for six months when matthew died and people were bringing us food every day for months. i actually on the daniel plan lost 65 toward my goal of 90 than actually aftermath through died, all of that period and actually being unable to excerpt size, too, because of my back, i was in the hospital i gained about 35 back. i learned -- lost 30 of that. i will prove twice that this plan works. you know, it all started -- i've written -- i only get about a book out a decade. in the '90s. >> each one sells 3 billion
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copies. >> this one is on physical health and actually, the reason why is i discovered a lot of people want to make changes in their life but don't have the energy to make changes. yeah, i would like to work on my marriage, finances, career, i'd like to work on all these things but i come home at night, i'm worn out, i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired and don't have energy for change. if i could get the energy level up, maybe we could work on other things, too. >> i'm going to be a skeptic dr. mark. you're a family physician. why should spirit alty, prayer, have an effect on my ability to lose weight? >> what is extraordinary, piers, is people change together in community. when you look at the science of behavior change, people change together. we get better together. the science of changing biology, how to get healthy is easy. you eat the right food, exercise
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and do the right stuff. it's a social power of our social networks. you're more likely to be over weight if your friends, friend, friend is over weight than your parent. the social threads that connect us are far more important than genetics. >> you're a psychiatrist so we're getting into your world. how are you going to convince people in hair hetheir heads, n mind anything else, this is the master plan, you have to persuade them. >> there are 140 studying saying as your weight goes up, the actual physical size and function of your brain goes down. >> is that true? >> that's true. >> the brain gets smaller as you get fatter? >> yes. >> because fat produces something called antiinflammatory -- >> i'm sucking in my stomach as we speak. [ laughter ] >> that's what rick said. that's what caught my attention. >> he wasn't getting healthy for his heart, not to live longer
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talk to farmers and get smarter about your insurance. ♪ we are farmers bum - pa - dum, bum - bum - bum - bum♪ back now with my studio audience special guest rick warren author of "the daniel plan 40 days to a healthy life." and dr. daniel amen. this is from richard one of the members of our audience. richard, where are you? what's your question? >> i'm a nurse practitioner. i was wondering if i should advise my patients to wait until after the holidays. for their 40 days. >> absolutely not. lose weight through the holidays. >> how? i just want to eat, drink and be p merry. how will do i that with scrooge sitting here saying get down to the gym. >> who has more fun? the person with the good brain or the person with the bad brain? >> the person with the good
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bottle of jack daniels. [ cheers and applause ] >> there's a difference between deprivation and making good decisions. >> this is really key. about abundance, delicious food. not about giving up what you love it's about giving up the stuff not creating health and wellness for you. you can have a fabulous meal and fabulous food and flavor without having to give up anything. it's not deprivation. >> i feel an inherent craving to march to mcdonald's and have a big macand large fries. i do it religiously. >> start reading the label. get on the internet and look up the foods you like -- >> i like it. >> of course. because they have food sign kift that is combine fat, sugar and salt to work on the little pleasure center in your brain to get you addicted. >> so this book it's not really a conventional diet book, is its
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it it's more about the psychology. with thighs audience many have tried and failed with diets through their lives. what's the keep takeaway there. >> very simple. eat real food. fit was created by man and the factory it's probably not good for you. if it's created by god and it's natural eat it. >> if it's made in a plant don't eat it. if it's a plant eat it. >> meat, chicken, fish, all those things. >> what are the biggest no nos? >> sugar, flour, processed foods, high fructose corn syrup, msg. abundant things in our diet driving addiction and obesity. >> the faces behind me say oh, no i love doughnuts. >> that's not love. that's addiction. >> what do you think has been the most effective thing for you in terms of losing weight? >> there are three things.
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one, i got in a group. we have actually 7,000 small groups at saddleback church. everyone we put a health champion in each group to help people through the daniel plan. those who want it do it. by doing it in community, it's like having your accountability support group. that's one. second, i changed the motivation. because the motivation it was never enough motivation on i want to look good and i want to feel good. i take this from a spiritual viewpoint. the bible says god created my body. jesus died for my body. the spirit lives in my body. so he better expect me to take care of it. it's when daniel began to talk about the influence of poor health on your brain. that's something i cared about. >> that was the thing that got me. i don't want my brain shrinking. >> yeah, me, neither. and so it's not enough simply to do food and fitness. you got to do focus, that's the change the way you think, you got to do friends you, got to
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get support group and you got to do faith. and that is what's your motivation bigger than simply i want to look good? >> it's fascinating stuff, gentlemen. i think it's going to be a big hit. "the daniel plan 40 days to a healthier life." rick warren, daniel ayman and mark harmon. thanks to you all. the audience ready for this? the daniel plan? [ cheers and applause ] >> i see a lot of nodding heads. rick this final question for yu. you said your most difficult year of your life. how will you be spending christmas this year as a family? >> you know, christmasers tlooes three purposes of christmas. the three things that the angel said, i bring you good news of great joy for unto you is born this day a savior. and peace on earth, goodwill toward men. so i try to do at christmas those three things. celebration, salvation and reconciliation. that's how i spend christmas. >> rick, it's great to see you. a little surprised for the
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