hope you tune in one hour from now at 10:00 p.m. eastern honoring the children of new town, one year later. "piers morgan live" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. the spiritual leader beat out everyone. the most prestigious person of the world. i'll ask how his father billy graham is dog. also, donald trump on the selfie, on the castro handshake

and his add voice for the president on obama care. >> you have to get it fixed. it's not fixed. it's very broken. there's no security, and frankly, a lot of people that are signing up, don't have insurance. >> man versus shark, it may surprise you. america's second favorite anchor man, not this guy you love him and i'll talk to the man who made him who he is today. >> stay classy piers morgan. >> i want to begin with breaking news. trouble in the international space station. nasa is scaling back after finding a problem with the cooling system. officials may decide an emergency spacewalk is needed. joining me is john zerella on the phone. it broke late today, this, and it's not the first time we had to do repair work of this nature. how big a threat is it potentially? can it get worse quickly? >> well, probably not, piers. you know, they have it under control. they have two of these cooling

pumps on the international space station, one of them, this morning stopped working suddenly. they were able to get it restarted again. but they are trouble heigshootie issue. the problem is they aren't able to provide enough cooling for the entire space station now because the one restarted is not working at 100%. so they had to shut down the non-critical system in three of the modulars on the station, the u.s. harmony modular, the european colombia mog well and japanese modular. you mentioned it happen problems with this before. in tafact, back in may they hado replace a pump on the international space station on the outside of the space station and require spacewalks to do it. and the pump that was the replacement pump is the one that's now not working again, so it could come to the point where they have to do another spacewalk to either replace this

pump, have three spares on the station. they could do that, if it would be necessary, which would be called an emergency space walk. right now, nasa is saying the life support systems are working fine, the crew is not in any danger, and they are getting their normal night sleep. >> obviously, a huge success with the movie gravity. everyone has great interest in the space station again and they will be fearing all sorts of things after watching that film, i should think. in reality, this kind of repair work is one of the big 14 repair things that they expect and anticipate, right, there are 14 different types of maintenance they assume may happen. >> yeah, there is no question about it. they practice for these contingencies repeatedly out in houston, you know, in the giant water tank they have out there that simulates zero gravity. so they run through the simulations and they have done this repair before, this

replacement, but it is certainly a krcritical item. they need the loops working to keep the station cool and to keep experiments running, scientific experiments, which are not in danger. the freezers are working, but it is absolutely critical they fix it or find a way to fix it without a spacewalk, but certainly that is one of the main possibilities. they might have to go out there and replace it. >> thank you very much indeed. i want to te big story, the man called the american pastor, billy graham. welcome back to you, franklin. let me start by asking you how your father is. you put out a plea for prayer for him and have a big celebration recently, but he was taken sick shortly after that i understand. >> he was. on november 7th, we had a

celebration. 900 people were in the room and it was a wonderful evening and i think that was the best i've seen him in years, the strongest, articulate but a few days later he got an infection and he's home and vitals are good, piers. he's just ex trotremely weakene. at 95 you don't have a lot of reserves. i know he would appreciate and the family would if people would pray for him. >> you released a video of the last prayer. let's take a look at that. >> this country is in great need of a spiritual awakening. there have been times i've gone from city to city and seen how far people have wondered from god. of all the things that i've seen and heard, there's on one message that can change people's lives and hearts. >> there is a way, if you come

by the way of the cross. >> it's extraordinary the parallels between your father's life and nelson mandela. similar ages and we sadly lost nelson mandela last week. he knew him, didn't he, your father? i think he actually corresponded with him. >> they corresponded. i don't think they met personally. they did correspond. my father preached, i believe in '73 in south africa but would not go unless they gave permission. it was the first time the south african government agreed to that meeting. my father said at that time he felt that apartheid was doomed and spoke out against it. he spoke out against segregation in this country. >> we have a clip of your father inside south africa in '93, doing that, speaking out. listen to this. >> jesus was a man. he was human. he was not a white man. he was not a black man.

he came from that part of the world that touches africa and asia and europe and he probably had a brown skin. christianity is not a white man's religion and don't let anybody ever tell you it's white or black. chris belongs to all people. he belongs to the whole world. >> it's incredible watching your father in action like that. he sends such a far-reaching and long-term effect on the american people, just as mandela did on the south africans. do you see anybody who is anywhere near the mantle of your father to take up that kind of spiritual leadership in america? >> i don't know. there is great preachers in this country and great men of god and i'm sure god will raise up. my father, this is not a position my father tried to obtain. it wasn't something he lobbied for or worked for.

it's something god did. if you ever, piers, see a turtle on a fence post, you'll know that turtle did not get there by himself and my father always felt he was somewhat of a turtle on a fence post. he realizes that god put him in that position that he had all those years. >> i've been spending the week talking to my sons about mandela, explaining why his legacy is so important. i would inmag gin if they ask me questions about your father, what would you think would be the best way to articulate what his legacy should be? >> my father has preached the same message and that's god's gospel, that god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that so believe in him should not parish. my father took this message of god's love to the world. he never changed that message. he never got off message. he kept to the -- and it's god's message. the gospel. it's the good news that god loves sinners and piers, i'm a sinner and the fact that god

loves me in spite of my sin, but i had to repint of my sin to tell god i'm sorry and accept his gift of salvation who is jesus chris who died, shed his blood and god raised his son to life and i was 2 2 when i asked piers -- >> fortunately, i'm fin frsin f. kidding. let's go to "time magazine." i was thrilled that edward snowden didn't get it and they give it to a guy that as a catholic has shaken up the church to the raft tors, really. what would you fatter make of pope francis? >> i can't speak on behalf of my father, but i appreciate the pope's focus on the poor, and then identifying with the poor. and i think my father would agree with that but again, i don't want to speak for him. i do appreciate his voice for the poor.

>> it does seem great humility like your father, nelson mandela. let's turn to this christmas box you have here. it's an amazing story this. tell me what you do. the samaritans purse, as you call it. >> we do. this year it's operation christmas child. we collect over 10 million this year. got a 747 leaving tomorrow out of john f. kennedy airport going to the philippines. and these boxes are packed by families, and they put all -- here is a little -- >> clopts and toys and toiletries. >> school supplies. but the most important thing i ask people to do is pray. pray for the children who will receive your boxes. i don't know but god does and we know god will hear the prayer of one righteous person. what god might do for the children of the world? this is packed for families and children all over the world and give them to places like the

philippines. >> if you want to help www.samaritans purse.org. i conkbrat late you on that. you talk about prayer, i would like everyone to join in prayer for your father, too. he's struggling and 95 and had an incredible life and i wish him the best. >> thank you, sir. >> and you and your family during the holidays. thanks for coming in? >> thank you. man versus shark. when we come back, a visit to donald trump, speaking of shark's layers at his fifth avenue headquarters. i had to ask, will he throw his hat back in the ring and run for new york governor, as many think he may? [ female announcer ] thanks for financing my first car. thanks for giving me your smile. thanks for inspiring me. thanks for showing me my potential.

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donald trump is fired up tonight over president obama's controversial handshake with raul castro, the cuban president at the memorial service and also, the obama selfie picture. i'm joined by donald trump in his apartment. what do you make of this, the president in hot water on two counts, all over the papers and tv for first of all, this handshake, very deliberate with raul castro, the cuba president, are you supportive? >> you shake hands with everybody but he seems to bow to foreign leaders.

i don't view it as very serious. he gave the wife a double kiss, that's the europea rsn, a you ow, bte tnyby, bu i don't make a b thing out of it. th ski hands. inly nothing wng >> the selfie picture. >> his wife was not happy or seemed like she wasn't too happy. that was a tough picture because it was a funeral. you can say it's a celebration of a great life, but it is nevertheless a funeral, and i guess he's taking a lot of heat on that. >> to me it seemed a little disrespectful but nothing to get too animated about unlike for example, obama care. let's turn to the single most controversial aspect. >> you're right, that is much more serious. >> it's been a disastrous rollout, from a business point of view, putting your business tycoon hat on, if he's going to carry on with it, what she should he do to rescue the situation? >> it seems like the website brought it to light how bad it is and the website is a diaster

and websites, i know a lot about websites. i never spent a billion and a half dollars, neither has anyone else. it's the most expensive website done, not the most complex. but the website brought to light you have to get it fixed. it's not fixed. it's very broken. there is no security and frankly, a lot of people signing up don't have insurance. they go to the hospital and find out guess what? i don't have any insurance or go to the insurance companies and it's a serious problem, i think it's had a terrible impact on his legacy. it could continue on ward. i think it's going to get worse because so many people are losing their plans. 55 million people have lost a plan that they loved, a doctor that they loved. i think it's going to get worse. the website may get better and may not get better, but the plan itself is really being exposed. it's a disaster, 55 million people out. they don't have it. >> the new figure shows total

enrollment is 1.9 million customers made it through the process. these are still very small numbers given the scale of people in america, total population. >> piers, look at it differently, 55 million are losing their plan and they are losing their doctor. >> was that more damaging to the obama brand as soon as he came in on this deal, if you can trust me, i won't be like the previous guys, you can trust me and that repeated footage, which really got to me, you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor, it turned out to be a complete falsehood. >> it was a lie. i don't know. i know they are trying to couch it differently, but it was a lie, and a problem and a big problem for him. i would imagine there is a lawsuit in there somewhere. if you look passed by one vote. so when it passes by one vote and even democrats voted against it, what he said got people to approve obama care. democrats, and frankly i don't

think it would be approved if they knew. now the democrats are running for the hills. you have a '14 election coming up and i know so many of them, as you know, i know them all. they are running for the hills and very concerned about obama care. it's interesting but a lie, there is no question about that. >> on a slightly positive note, employment at a five-year low and the stock market soaring to record heights, are these genuine green shoots, do you think in the economy, not with standing politics? >> the real unemployment is 13 to 15, maybe 16 to 17% because so many people have given up and as you know, they don't include that. so you are looking for a job and give up and you're now, you don't have a job and they don't include that. what kind of unemployment rate is that? as far as the stock market, we're getting free money. i'm in the stock market. i was never a stock market person. but about three and a half years ago, i said i'll put a lot of money in the stock market because it almost has to get up and go up and i looked like a

great genius, some friend of mine said you're a genius. i said i'm not a genius -- maybe i am. i hope i am. >> i was going to say, don't be too hasty. >> i don't want to give that up. i made investments in the stock market because i said i'm getting free money. >> the very rich and successful elite, perhaps, in america are in the current situation because money is cheap and there is plenty of it. for the vast majority of americans, it's still very tough out there. >> piers, i'm a developer. i love cheap money. i've always loved cheap money. the problem with this time, this term that we're talking about is that if you don't need money, if you're like loaded, the banks want to give you money with almost no interest. if you do need money, in other words, you're a good developer, you put people to work you can't get it. so a person like me, i've never paid interest rates like this in my life so low. that's a good thing as far as

i'm concerned. in terms of the countries, i can't answer that. i don't think it is too good. >> what is a bad thing for america, these figuring come out the level of students and accomplishments compared and china and singapore the u.s. down 26 and science. these are and an embarrassment. the education system that's so far behind. >> you have fin want and norway and and this country. the system is wrong and some -- maybe blame the students, do the students have it? i don't know. do they have it? it's embarrassing. we're so far down on the toe tom pool. we were one of the top. you look at these countries and they are way, way ahead of us. that's -- i'm a big education person. that's a really bad -- so were

you by the way. that's a really bad sign for the future. >> the success going forward is based around education. >> so true. >> if you look what china is doing, they are steam rolling ahead 1.3 million people educate in a better and better way. it doesn't look good, does it, for america 30 years time. >> it's hard to believe and if you look what is happening with china, i've been talking about this for years. they are out smarting us in a business sense every step -- >> you have to admire it, don't you? you have to admire the chee niece. >> in this building i have the biggest bank in the world. i have other chinese companies, i speak rough about china. they respect it. they love trump. they want to be in trump buildings because they respect what i say because they know i'm telling the truth. i'm not knocking china. i'm saying it's amazing the way our leaders can pick it up. you look at what china is doing to this country in terms of trade. in terms of the dollar, they are

just killing us. >> they are being very aggressive. let's play devil's advocate, i don't blame them. >> i don't, either. >> i blame the american politicians allowing this to happen. >> that's why they want to be in my buildings. i have many friends at the top levels of china can't believe they are getting away with it. i agree. i blame the politicians, the leadership. they are taking our jobs, i'm not only talking about china but other things. the reason miami is doing so well is because of south american s, come and want to be in miami and that's a little art fish. that's something that miami has that other places don't have. so it's very sad. >> quick question about the potential next presidential race in 2016, a new university poll, 22 would back chris christie, 41% would support hillary

clinton and 48% christie, 45% clinton. it will be a close race. >> it's going to be a close race, tough race, it could be people you never heard of. nobody heard a number on years ago, six years ago of barack obama. nobody even knew who he was and hilary was supposed to get it and all of a sudden he came along and won. it was close and tight. you'll have to see what happens. >> let's take a short break. when we come back, let's talk about the pope voted "time magazine's" person of the yore. and billy graham, i want to get your feelings on the great man. we'll come back after this shortly. you say. around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most.

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a radio interview kanye west said he wants to be the obama of clothing. that's when he said. he wants to be the obama of clothing. to achieve the goal, he's designing fashion that nobody wants and offering it on a website that never works. >> jay leno having a dip at the president and kanye west. let's talk about "time magazine's" person of the world. they went for pope francis. he's really shaking things up for the catholic church. is he also showing great leadership? is that what it needs? >> he's so refreshing and he's a man of the people. i think it was a great choice. i looked at some other characters and forget it. i think that was a great choice. >> you were and still are

friends with billy graham. he's obviously reaching near the end of his life now. >> sadly. >> yeah, very sadly. i know you saw him recently at a big event to celebrate his life. what will be his big legacy? >> i think he has a lot of lig sees. i think franklin is a great legacy. franklin gram is a fantastic man. i got to know him well. i was at billy's birthday party. you probably read about it. everybody was there. amazing evening. billy looked good. he's 95 years old and has difficulty but he looked good. he's a man who if you look so many years at the top, and i guess one of the reasons i love billy graham is my father and mother loved him. they would sit back and watch. there is a certain humility that he's always had and a special man. a tremendous heart and to be with him on his 95th birthday was so wonderful. i loved it.

>> the humility streak, nelson mandela had it, another great man. when you lock at mandela, i know you had the honor of meeting him, as i did. what did you make of him and the struggle? >> it's an amazing story to be in jail for, like, 27 years and come out and be a man of not only humility but he sort of -- i was reading where during the inauguration he had his jailer sitting in the front row -- >> amazing -- >> it takes a special man. he was a special man. i met him a number of times and liked him a lot and he was a special guy. there is no question about it. >> gm, the first woman ceo mary barra at the age of 51. a big deal for the auto industry and america. >> i think having a woman as the head of general motors and she's supposed to be outstanding. i have cadillac, a great relationship with cadillac. it is really a company that is doing so well.

cadillac has done so well and general motors has really, the parent of cadillac, they have done an amazing job over the last four or five years. so, you got to give credit. it's wonderful you have a woman as the head of general motors, a good signal. >> you have a smart woman working for you, your daughter ivanka. do you see young successful women all over the place? is it a good thing for america? >> it's a great thing for america. she's recommended you strongly. >> impeccable. >> you have to love her. she is a very talented person. i have many, many talented women working for me, absolutely. they are doing great and that's a great thing for the country. >> raising the minimum wage is a big issue at the moment, and obviously, you have unemployment and poverty and a lot of people working and even after a whole day's work at mcelderdonalds or walmart, they don't have enough

money to feed their family. are you in favor of raising the minimum wage? >> you don't want to do anything to keep the incentive away for whether mcdonalds expanding in this country. at the same time you have to let people live. i heard something the other day that was interesting. two minimum wages, one for young kids that are in high school and, you know, going to college and young and want to learn, and another for people raising families, gets very complicated and you get away from free market. there is a lot of debate right now on hminimum wage. it does create problems. >> when you look at next year, 2014, a big year, what do you want to see happen? >> we need leadership. we need people that can pull people together. you look at what is going on in washington. you need a group of people and obviously, the one person, it has to pull everybody together. they are fighting, and even the dems are fighting with the dems now and they are all of a sudden going wild for obama care, they

are fighting. the republicans obviously well-documented. somebody has to be able to grab the bull by the horns and pull everybody together, and if you don't do that, we're just going to keep falling as a country. >> one thing i want to ask you, i interviewed warren buffet and got him to produce his want which had a great big spread of hundred dollar bills. do you carry a wallet and cash? >> i don't carry a wallet. i have very little cash on me. i like to keep it that way. it's sad. i go to a restaurant, mr. trump it's on me, the owner. no charge mr. trump. i never need cash. if i was ever in trouble where i needed a meal, i'd have to pay. it's pretty unfair. >> warren sent one e-mail in his life. do you e-mail? >> i don't do a lot of e-mail. every time there is an e-mail you have problems in courts -- >> une-mail -- >> i don't do many, either. i agree with him 100%. one of the smartest people i know, the head -- i won't

mention his name. he made an email but doesn't use it. he said every time i see and use e-mail, i end up in court. i'm not a big e mail fan. >> do you use cell phone? >> yes. >> which? >> i have an l and samsung and i have a lot of stock in apple and i want them to do a bigger screen because i like the bigger samsung screen. i've been tweeting. you might have seen it. do a larger screen because people like me. i like a larger screen. >> any hope for blackberry people like me? >> you know, i have friends that swear by blackberry, like you, but i have friends that want blackberry. they love the pad and like the key pad and i understand that fully, but every time i look at blackberry, it's like a disaster. people that i know that have blackberry, they just never want to give it up. they are slowly giving it up, unfortunately, for them, but you would think somebody would come along there is a spirit for

blackberry like no other. final question, there is rumor you might be running for governor of new york. any truth? >> new york like the country is in big trouble but i'll make decisions in january. we'll see what happens. >> are you tempted? >> you can straighten these things out. it wouldn't be hard to straighten new york out. it wouldn't be so hard to straighten the country out. i'll decide what i do sometime after january. >> good to see you v. a great holiday. donald trump, when we come back, man versus shark. we'll talk to the man who survived. [ sniffles, coughs ] shhhh! i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is!

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another shark incident which ended happily, nobody got hurt. you weren't so lucky. tell me what happened to you. >> you want the whole story? i was out surfing for about two and a half hours on a brand new surf board i just bought, just been given, actually by my friend, he owns a surf shop here in town called core surf. i went out, surfed two and a half hours. nearing the end of session. rode a wave, went under water, feet went down, wave rolled over top of me and i kicked off the bottom to come up to get to the surface. as soon as my feet came off the bottom, i felt something grab me. didn't know what it was at first. i thought was like i startled something, and my first instinct was go limp.

it bit me out of fear, right? that was like in the -- that was like in a fraction of a second i thought that. as soon as i thought that and went limp for a second, whatever had ahold of me started shaking and that's when i realized it was a shark. i would feel the teeth, like in me. i work on a fishing boat so i could tell what had a hold of me was a shark. i was in about chest deep water, and he was kind of backing up pulling away from me, so he threw my balance off, and i was coming into fight or flight mode. i thought real basic. if he keeps shaking on my foot, he's going to take away the lower part of my foot. i went down under water and his mouth was across the top of my foot, and i basically grabbed his nose and tried to match how

hard he was squeezing my foot with my hands just squeeze and squeeze and squeeze as hard as i could and he shook and let go and took off. as soon as -- as soon as he let go, i had -- went from fight mode to flight mode. i was just out of there as quick as i could. hopped on my board. had a little wave come up behind me and i caught that immediately and paddled in. but about half way in, once i got in about a foot of water, something -- it was kind of funny. there was a mother there just waiting in the water. she's smiling at me waving. as i'm riding on my belly and i'm waiving like this go in, go in, i got bit by a shark. he's smiling. by the time i got up to her, she's still smiling and finally heard me say i got bit by a shark. that big smile dropped to oh my god.

she had two little kids. grabbed them by the arm and picked them up out of the water and passed me running to the beach. she ran her kids in and sat them on the sand. >> what injuries did you sustain and what is your prognosis for a speedy recovery. >> when he grabbed me, say this is my foot, when the shark grabbed me, that top row of teeth is like sure raided knaves and the lower teeth are like forks, so he locked into the bottom of my foot and started shaking and the top jaw sawed down through my foot and got into ligaments and stuff. that's why i had to grab him and get him off of me because i knew he would work his way through my foot. i got my foot back. good. >> pictures of you with your rescuers now. obviously a happy ending to a scary incident. good luck with your recovery. you must be mad to go back surfing but i guess that's part of the fun. thank you for joining me. >> thank you very much.

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♪ ♪ >> we're starting a 24-hour news channel and we want you. >> i'm going to do the thing god put ron burgundy put me on this earth to do. >> legend continues, ron burgundy is in fact true based ocho on a very real broadcast. more crime and in the chair with me tonight. more crime, it's an honor to talk to the man that inspired my favorite ever movie comedy character. welcome to you. >> well, i think that's flattering. i think. i don't have salon quality hair. in fact, i got very little these days, but i'm grateful for what i got. >> what when you found out will ferrell, he seen a documentary to put it into perspective for

the viewers about jessica salvage, who was your former core star, she died, drowned in a car accident. he watched this documentary with this and saw this edgy relationship and he contacted you. >> i was proflexed and surprised until i read the history how he came about this decision to do the film. people have asked me if i'm offended by the fact this blow hard air head egotistic character was based on me. i used to enjoy the mary tyler moore story. ted was a character and no resemiblns to the anchor people i know and myself but i thought it was good party and that's

exactly what anchor man is. i don't take offense but laugh as hard as anyone because i tell p my friends, it's not a documentary. if it was a documentary, i would be came to create this character and this situation, they weren't necessarily building the character of ron burgundy on mort crimin. they were covering a situation at that time when a young female anchor was brought in to sit at the anchor desk with more experienced, older male anchors. and that did create some tension. and i want to set the record straight on the chauvinist thing. i don't think it was in terms of gender but a feeling of we were superior, we had paid our dues, i had been a network

correspondent had about 25 years experience. my senior partner had been in the business for 35 years. now all of a sudden they're bringing in this young, good-looking woman from texas who is only 25 years old and they're giving her a major seat, prime anchor position in a major market. and so i think the antagonism that we may have felt or the resistance was not so much because it was a woman coming in but because it was somebody that we didn't feel had earned the position. now, she did earn it. and after she got there she worked hard. she turned out to be a good reporter, a fine writer, a good interviewer and proved that she did have the capacity to sit in that chair and to do it with grace and skill. >> well let's take a little look at a clip from the savitch documentary. this is quite fascinating. let's watch this. >> good evening. i'm mort crim with jessica savitch. >> they're putting that broad on 11:00 news.

that's going to kill us. >> you have to understand that i was a typical traditional1972 male chauvinist anchor. i liked women but i wasn't sure their place was sitting beside me on an anchor set. >> come on, ed, it's bull crap. don't get me wrong. i love the ladies. they rev my engine. but they don't belong in the news room. >> you did appear to be a self-confessed chauvinist there. your denial doesn't carry much credit, does it? >> as presidents and senators often say, i misspoke. i think the choice of the word chauvinist didn't reflect what was going on. my daughter will tell you i raised her to believe it a woman can do anything she wants to do. and i think i was very much a

feminist going all the way back. so i think i used the wrong word when i said i was a typical male sh chauvinist. as evidence of the fact she didn't pay her dues. when she proved herself to be a hard-working reporter and to be able to do the job as well as any man and perhaps work harder than most of us she was totally and fully accepted. and in fact, the bond of friendship became so strong between all of us on that anchor team that after her tragic death, her mother and her sister called and said, we would like you to deliver the eulogy at her funeral because we think that's what jess would have wanted. >> you're not the first person to be pilloried in this manner. let's take a look at a clip from snl. >> i am piers morgan, the tiny little fool of news. i'd like to remind everyone that

i won "the apprentice." who lied about what? who is still hiding the truth? and who what how what who? >> you see, i'm pretending to laugh. but really inside, mort, it's killing me. i just don't talk like that. >> no, it's not. i've watched you enough to know so ionhink you'r tak nse of atrsal. >>utng aside any of the background to this, what i can tell you as an absolute fact is that ron burgundy to me is one of the gods of movie history and indeed of anchormen and news people generally. because i just think he's a wonderfully inspiring character. he never gives up, he keeps going. were you like that? were you a guy that just never gave up on a good story? >> i was pretty persistent, yes. i think perseverance was and is one of my qualities, yeah. my wife would say so. >> i'm told you've been invited

to the world premiere of the sequel, is that right? >> yes. it will be really a great opportunity for will ferrell to meet me [ laughter ] >> and have you ever used the words, i want you to be honest here. obviously you had a slight amnesia attack with the chauvinist claims. have you ever used the words "stay classy, san diego." to.only in a fewntvishi i have no >> wou you minjustue mortgage humoring me and ending this interview with the words as if you were ron burgundy. >> of course it's your ow. heveouead want or crim. di >> and youtayassy piers. >> i will try. it's very difficult as you know but i will try. mort crim great talking to you. great sport.

i probably would have been the british version of anchor man. but now mort crim, thank you very much indeed. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back. cg/úññ

the first job i had was as an intern for ron burgundy. they were the worst years of my life. he didn't trust any local dry cleaners so he made me learn how to dry clean. if i ever messed up he'd

threaten to punch me. he never did, but i still flinch he never did, but i still flinch when he's around. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com probablyth best -- tomorrow night best-selling author tony robbins. his promise to the newtown families. that's up it for us. "ac 360 later" starts right now. ♪ oh, mr. sun mr. golden sun please shine down on me ♪ >> daniel was drawn to music. he always wanted to be a drummer. >> i still really can't seem to get my head around that this has happened and how final it is. >> good job, joey. >> the bottom just falls out for you. what's left is faith. i have hope i'll see my daughter