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it's the most inspiring stuff you will read all year. that's all for tonight. "ac360" starts right now. good evening, everyone. what a court ruling against the nsa means to your privacy. and remember this, that ocean liner stranded at sea, power failing, toilets overflowing. our exclusive investigation tonight reveals at what carnival knew about major problems that turned one of their fun ships into a floating sewer. later, two medical stories. and dr. sanjay gupta wants to prove that the anti-bacteria soaps you're using prove that it actually works. also tonight. whether taking multivitamins do anything for you at all. and whether you should continue to take them. about half of the americans
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still do. >> we begin with a court ruling that deals a body blow to the mass surveillance program that can collect phone records on each and every call that americas make. a d.c. district court judge richard leon ruling that it violates fourth amendment protection against unlegal search and seizure. he writes, and i quote. judge leon called the program, quote. almost orwellian and says that james madison would be aghast at the scope of it. but he held off shutting down the program. the justice department had little reaction beyond saying they are studying the opinion. they are the program is, in fact, constitutional. there is this from edward snowden, i acted on my belief that the nsa programs would not
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withstand a constitutional challenge. that the american public deserved a chance to see these issues determined by open court. today he goes on with the following. as for snowden. he is still in a world of trouble. he still has got a trunk load of classified material he is yet to release. and in a report last night, john miller asked the head of the task force investigating the leaks whether he would consider cutting a deal with snowden to get it back. >> he has already said if i got amnesty, i would come back. given the potential damage to national security what would your thought on making a deal be? >> my personal view is, yes, it's worth having a conversation about. i would need assurances that the remainder would be secured. my bar for those assurances would be very high.
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an assertion on his part. >> a federal judge says that the nsa program violates the constitution. does that vindicate what edward snowden did? >> i don't think so. but what snowden exposed has not been shown to be illegal. today, a judge said it was illegal. so there's no question that today is a big victory for glen greenwald and snowden. >> but, in your opinion, why doesn't it justify what he did? >> he took classified information and disclosed it in an illegal way that is costing tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars of work by the american government to redo and potentially exposed
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it to the chinese and russians. i don't support what snowden did at all. i don't think this vindicates him but it comes closer than any previous development has of vindicating him. >> should this vindicate ed snowden? >> how could it not? let use common sense for a minute. this is an american citizen who is working inside the government who discovers that the united states government is doing things without the knowledge of the american people that is so illegal and against the core constitutional guarantees of the constitution that a george bush appointed judge says it's not even a close call. james madison would be aghast if he knew that the government is gathering data against any
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american citizen without doubt of suspicion or probable cause. it is a duty of an american citizen to come forward at great risk to himself and inform his fellow citizens. >> what should he have done? what should an american citizen do if they believe there is something unconstitutional? >> he can go to an inspector general or congress. he can work through the established channels. every person with access to classified information has. it is simply not a tenable way to run a government. if every of the hundreds of thousands of people who have security clearances suddenly decide they don't like something and they can disclose it. yes, it is true that one judge has vindicated snowden's interpretation of the law. this is far from the last word on this subject and this is not the way the system is supposed to work. >> glenn, can the system work this way if all government employees start to reveal this?
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>> we had this debate 50 years ago when daniel elsburg did what snowden has done and daniel has said when you find out about wrongdoing so egregious it's your duty to tell your fellow citizens. there is no channel of the kind that jeff is describes for someone to come forward. >> jeff, the oversight you talk about when you bear down and look at it, the people in congress who allegedly who have oversight over the nsa they only know about what they are informed about by the intelligence agencies. it's not as if they have people inside the intelligence agencies monitoring what is going on. >> that's true. all the more reason if there is someone who calls himself a whistle blower they should go to the senator from oregon who has been so unspoken about this. they should go to the people who
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are trying to get the story out through legal means. giving the documents to glen greenwald is not an orderly or fair or ultimately responsible way to run a government. it is just similarly untenable to have a system where mr. snowden, even if one court has said he is right, can force the government to spend hundreds of millions of dollars, can jeopardize individuals who are working on those systems. it's just not a way to run a government. >> anderson? >> you can respond. >> i just want to say one thing. if you look at the stories over the last decade that are the most widely regarded in journalism, what it involves is discovering illegal behavior done in secret coming to journalists who report on it.
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because someone in the justice department has come to them. or lots of different stories that jeff's magazine "the new yorker" has published where people inside the government come to them and say i have discovered these secret instances of wrongdoing. i trust you as a journalist to report it responsibly. that's why we have a free press and part of the fabric of american democracy. >> jeff, i assume you take issue with the idea that the huge -- just the volume of information that we are speaking about? >> the difference between those situations is you have investigative journalists seek out individual facts and subjects versus disclosure of entire government programs, all the underlying documents which jeopardize the investigation of terrorism, a word that has not be yet come up in our conversation. but it is worth mentioning the reason for this is not because the nsa is an evil organization.
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there are threats to the united states out there. >> zen, an nsa official commented on that. kind of against that. one of the conditions was about guarantees that other documents wouldn't be released. is that something that edward snowden could even guarantee, if you have possession and others have possession of these documents? >> if you go back and read an op ed in the "washington post" he said, three months ago, that edward snowden was right to flee the country. what edward snowden said if i can be guaranteed fair treatment and i wouldn't be persecuted for the stories i brought to light, i would love to return to the united states. but the u.s. government tends to
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be vindictive in these cases when it comes to people who are doing a wrongdoing. u.s. political officials in the united states who break the constitution they get promotions and the people who expose it get indictments. and that's the real injustice that needs to be resolved before he can return. >> thank you both for joining me. >> follow me at twitter, @andersoncooper. up next you might not want to book a cruise until you see our exclusive investigation. not just what went on that carnival last winter but what the cruise line knew about their fleet. a 17-year-old is badly wounded at that high school outside denver. neutrogena®.
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with millions of americans planning a get-away at sea. an investigation of what became known as, excuse the language, as the poop cruise. drifting for days, after a fire knocked out power, no air-condition, no lights, not much food or water or flushing toilets. now cnn has learned that the ship's crew set sail with four of six generators operational. knowing there was a fire hazards not on just that ship but on ships across the fleet. drew griffin is keeping them honest this evening. >> this is supposed to be the fun ship. and we are having to fend for ourselves. >> reporter: bettina and her daughter planned this trip for a half of a year.
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they would sail on this and celebrate her birthday. it was the trip of a lifetime, until they awoke to a fire alarm, smoke in their hallway. then days and days of misery. human waste was piling up just outside their door. >> just on our deck alone, there were the biohazard bags lined up across the floor. we are talking about raw sewage at just the end of our deck alone p.m. it was just repulsive. >> reporter: it was, according to rodriguez, a nightmare, now made worse because of these, the cruise lines own reports, inspections and maintenance records, detailed a problem developing on board the carnival triumph more than a year before rodriguez and her daughter were on board. the documents were obtained in his lawsuit against carnival. >> that ship never should have set sail in february. it was unseaworthy at the commencement of the voyage.
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these documents tell you that the company, and i'm saying to you the corporation back in miami had knowledge of the fact that this vessel had a propensity for fires. there are things that could have been and should have been and weren't done to make sure that fires didn't take place. >> reporter: the first trouble with triumph, diesel generator number six catching fire. starting more than a year before the cruise, the generator was overdue for maintenance, out of compliance with the safety laws of the sea known as soleas. over and over again, carnival's maintenance reports saying the same thing, generator number six overdue for maintenance and during that same time period, carnival learned about a safety problem in the engine room, fuel lines, a dangerous pattern of leaks had emerged on other carnival cruise ships.
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allegra caught fire because fuel leaked on a hot spot and ignited. it would be the ultimate foreshadowing. consider this. carnival's own investigation shows the fire on board the costa allegra was similar to the fire on the triumph a year later. carnival says it pro actively began investigating and carnival found a problem in a different type of fuel line. there had been nine -- that's right -- nine incidents resulting in fuel leaks associated with flexible fuel lines in two years. on january 2nd, carnival issues a compliance order giving ships two months to address the problem to ensure a suitable spray shield is installed for all engines using the fuel lines. mark jackson is the chief engineer. >> after that internal study, the company came out with a new
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policy to, again, shield all of the flanges and the hoses that were below the deck plates. >> reporter: but you didn't shield the hose that caused this tragedy. >> that hose was beneath the deck plates and it was believed that the deck plates would act as that shield. in this case, it found a gap in the bilge plates and caused a fire. >> they began to try to start to put guards on the hoses because they were having problems with these hoses as a result of vibrations in these engines and they knew that was the problem and they had the propensity of these hoses to break and they knew it would cause a spray on the hot spots. >> reporter: on february 7th with a diesel generator in need of overhaul and shields on some but not all of the flexible hoses, triumph set sail from galveston, texas.
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>> we were totally in compliance with all of the rules and regulations. and had the regulating bodies on the vessel two weeks prior certified the ship safe to sail. you learn things on incidents such as the triumph. >> reporter: three weeks later off the coast of mexico, fire breaks out when fuel sprays from a flexible fuel line. a fuel line less than six months old. carnival triumph's cruise set sail knowing that the potential for fire was there. >> my wife and i were on the ship together. we would not have gone on the ship if we would have known. that it is like knowing one of the two engines on a plane were not working. we wouldn't have gotten on the ship in that situation if they would have let us know that. >> reporter: while the company insists that what happens was just an accident, the company has the put $300 million into a
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fleet wide safety upgrade to prevent any potential fire hazards in its engine rooms. they also point to the passengers suing to read the fine print on their ticket which says the cruise line never promised a safe trip. >> so, drew is joining us now. you are saying that carnival is at least for this lawsuit, is telling passengers we didn't promise you a safe trip? >> yeah, what carnival is saying, number one, this was an accident, not negligence on its part. but secondly, yes, these passengers have no right to sue because carnival's attorneys say when you buy your ticket, the ticket contract makes absolutely no guarantee for safe passage, a sea worthy vessel and sanitary and safe living conditions. carnival, because of that, is trying to get the suit tossed. the passengers want to challenge that in court. if they get their chance it will
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be february when they are scheduled for trial. >> you don't see that disclaimer on the commercial. carnival is saying that it has done nothing wrong but it is going through major changes to make sure it doesn't happen again? >> major. $300 million invested in carnival ships alone and almost all of it dealing with making sure spraying fuel doesn't start a fire and disable the ship. all changes made after the carnival triumph's now infamous "poop" cruise disabled the ship. >> you can find more on cnn.com. coming up next, what the students who know and love her want you to know about their friend claire who was badly injured in the latest school shooting. later. she was once one of these women. what a former member of the flds sect has to say about a judge's ruling that overturns key parts of the state's anti-polygamy
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a late word that a school shooting that leaves a young woman, claire davis with a bullet wound to the head. our focus is on her and not the young man who shot her. but there is new information on him tonight. but the local coroner ruled his death a suicide. his parents are releasing a statement. we are not releasing his name. because we don't believe in giving the gunman the publicity. as parents they say they love our dear son dearly. and they are saying that they are praying for claire davis' recovery. they are not the only ones. ana joins us now.
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>> good evening, anderson. >> reporter: certainly a lot of people are rallying around claire davis today who remains in a coma in critical condition. but she is stable according to hospital officials. the community has set up this growing tribute to claire. they have left beautiful messages. they have written the words pray for claire using these white styrofoam cups. they are on the side of arapaho high school. they have lit flowers and candles and hoping all of this they are sending her way will give her strength. 17-year-old claire davis an innocent victim of an unthinkable crime now facing the ultimate fight. >> i have faith. she is a fighter. >> reporter: three days after the shooting, davis is hospitalized with severe head trauma. a tribute is growing for a girl who was a great athlete and student who loves horses.
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>> claire was just that person you could always go to her for help. she always had a bright smile on her face. >> reporter: her family is asking for privacy and prayers. >> we love her to death and we are all praying for her. >> reporter: the community is responding. hundreds of students from high schools all across the area gathering for this vigil over the weekend. >> for claire! >> reporter: lifting candles to the sky, shining light during a very dark time. >> for claire! >> claire! >> for claire! >> reporter: people on social media are writing about her. total strangers flooding facebook with well wishes. and also encouragement. on twitter, a campaign to get one direction, davis favorite band to come visit, with #get d to claire. do you think claire is feeling that love right now? >> definitely. she knows we are watching over her right now. >> reporter: support is abundant and so is the helpless feeling
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of wanting to do more for davis shot at point-blank range. all because she happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. what are your prayers for claire? >> i just pray that she will see the light of day again and she get to walk with all of her friends and classmates in may. >> what is the latest on her condition? >> reporter: again, stable, but critical. i spoke with the trauma expert today who tells me without knowing the specifics of claire's injury, a gunshot wound the head is never good and in best case scenario, she has a very, very, very long road of rehabilitation ahead of her. i learned that the fact that she is now stable some 72 hours after the shooting, we're told that is a good sign in terms of survival. but quality of life is another issue. anderson? >> and do we know anything more about the motive here? did claire know the shooter or
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was this just random that he shot her? >> reporter: so it seems. we do know the motive, according to the sheriff, was revenge against a librarian, and the school's speech and debate coach. it just happened that claire was sitting next to the entrance when the shooter walked into the school and she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> appreciate the update. thanks. a lot more happening tonight. susan hendricks is here with more. two suspects are still at large after a deadly carjacking at a new jersey shopping mall. police say a couple returned to their suv in the parking lot at the mall when they were confronted by two men. the 30-year-old husband was shot to death. the wife was not injured. an indiana man was killed hours after his wedding after being hit by three vehicles after helping a woman whose car had slid into a ditch. william knight had just left his reception with his new bride who was waiting in the car while he got out to help.
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four buildings at harvard university were evacuated and on lock down because of a bomb threat. no suspicious devices were found. and toronto mayor rob ford rocked out at a gospel church yesterday. there he is showing off his dance move. >> thanks very much, susan. a federal judge finds key parts of the anti-polygamy law unconstitutional. warren jeffs once called utah home and is now in prison for having sex with underaged girls. i will speak to a former member of the flds about this ruling. anti-bacterial soap may not be doing what you think it is doing. and three studies showing that multi vitamins are not doing anything at all. we will talk to dr. sanjay gupta about it all. tylenol cold® helps relieve your worst cold and flu symptoms. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more.
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of the mormon church. the family filed a lawsuit arguing that utah's ban on cohabitation violated their rights to privacy and religious freedom. the judge agreed in the case saying the polygamy ban was unconstitutional. and a federal judge agreed. utah was one home to warren jeffs. he was convicted in texas of having sex with underaged girls. he is serving a life sentence. rebecca musser was a witness for the prosecution of jeffs. she was raised in the flds sect. she was forced into a polygamist marriage. she escaped from the flds and joins me now. what is your reaction to the court ruling? >> i'm disappointed in the fact
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that people want to call this a first amendment issue but they are not talking about the real questions that need to be asked and i think it's an oversimplification of complex issues that open the door for tremendous amount of abuse. >> when you say "other issues," to you, what is the key issue here? >> the key issue here, they are trying to say this is a religious freedom issue. but this comes down to the issue of consent and the grooming that happens to make these girls think this is okay and something they have to do in order to live in a way to gain their eternal salvation. this is a behavior issue. a lot of people are saying in the name of religious freedom, do we have a right to do these kind of things? it comes down the in the name of god and religion are people allowed to violate the human rights of another human being and i don't think any one of us would really agree with that. >> if viewers don't realize, the suit was brought by the family on the tlc show "sister wives" and arguing this is a case of private relationships between consenting adults. you are saying this is not a
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free choice at all here? >> they are saying this is a freedom of religion situation. but even on the show they are careful to keep their religion out of. if they had that conversation, it would reveal the amount of grooming that happens from birth from these young girls to go in a situation where this is normal and right. at what point is kody brown 85 years old and looking at a 19 year old girl and saying god might tell me to marry her and it is something she would need to do. there is a tremendous coercion and grooming and control that goes on. they want to use the name of religious freedom to deflect conversation from what the real issues are here. >> it's interesting you use that term grooming. you are saying that young women brought up in these families are told from a young age that in order to attain salvation and get to heaven, this is the kind of relationship you need to be
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in? >> they are definitely told that in the flds and the aub which is the group that the "sister wives" are a part of were the same group up until the 1950s, and they broke away because of a power struggle. not because of the atrocities going on within the group. the girls are taught from birth, this is not only their right but this is something they have to do to be more blessed of god and it is part of their grooming process. people need to look at for polygamy to be perpetuated. it is part of their grooming process. this is a systematic grooming of women and children to keep them uneducated. they don't talk to them about co dependency or personal rights. they are not talking to them about what equality is. this system of life in polygamy is inherently inequal.
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>> what do you want to see happen? what do you want to see the state of utah do? >> i would like to see the state to peel back the layers, don't stop at saying whether this is a question of consent. we have to look at what has to be in place for that consent to be valid. do they have the perspective to to be able to give the educated choice. if polygamy is decriminalized in utah, they need to make sure that they are somehow educating these young girls about their human rights and about what is equality? what is codependency? give them the education so they are not going into a system blindly. i thought i was choosing. but everything i consented to is what i was told to consent to. i just think utah needs to take a lot deeper look at this than they have in the past. >> rebecca, it's a great discussion to have. i thank you for being with us. >> thank you.
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we have been following the story of warren jeffs for years. we have vered his trials and convicts and influence of small towns in colorado and utah. the loyalty of his followers remains unshaken. but not everybody is standing by warren jeffs. but gary tuchman has a view from inside his estate. how devoted some are to him and how far others have fallen from his flock. >> reporter: this is the 18 acre estate built for warren jeffs and his scores of wives. if and when he ever gets out of prison. this was supposed to be warren jeffs' bedroom? >> this was warren's bedroom. he has an attaching room here and decorated to the same construction that he raped the little girl in texas. he is now serving a life sentence for. >> but the home built by followers no longer belongs to jeffs. it belongs to a man who used to be warren jeff's body guard. he is a spokesman for the
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church. he received it in a settlement. after his home and business were robbed allegedly by church followers. and now he is helping the u.s. justice department in a lawsuit against the neighboring town where jeffs' church is headquartered. colorado city, arizona, and hilldale, utah. jessop is giving information to the feds as they investigate charges that the politicians and police of the towns intimidate and harass anyone who is not a part of jeff's polygamist church and they take orders only from warren jeffs. even in jail he is giving commands how to run this city? >> constantly. >> and cnn has two letters written last summer by a former mayor of colorado city which prove critical to the justice department's case. the letters were sent to jeffs in his texas prison cell marked private.
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in one passage, the mayor who claimed along with other city leaders in the past that warren jeffs doesn't governor this town asked jeffs we have much litigation going on. with people trying to take down the city. i would like to get the sure word on the lord. and how far he wants us to go in all of this arguing. another paragraph references the the local police known as the marshal's office. they are accused of punishing nonchurch members. the mayor writes to jeffs. if the lord is someone he would like to have in that position it would be very helpful to get his sure word on who he desires to have that position.
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sam brower is a private investigator. >> the two letters cinch the department of justice's case. they lock in the assertions in their lawsuit. >> reporter: have the mayors of these cities, always been approved by the prophet? >> they have. but if they fail he excommunicates them. that's why you have a stack of resignations. >> reporter: the mayor resigned a few months ago. it's commonly known in this community that many of the excommunicated seek repentance from afar hoping to be let back in. and it's believed that george allred is doing that. today's mayor of colorado city has the same last name, joseph alred. can i speak with the mayor right now? >> he is not here right now. >> reporter: every time i come here he is not here. can you tell me when he will be here? hello? >> hello? >> reporter: mayor? >> no. the mayor is not here right now.
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>> reporter: we then tried his house. mayor allred? no answer there. we fared no better with the police. can i ask you something, deputy? this time or the many times we tried to get answers from them. can i ask you a question? can i ask you a question? the attorney who represents hilldale, utah tells cnn that the letters have not been authenticated and the allegations are unfounded. should your followers consider you a prophet? warren jeffs followers remain for the most part fiercely loyal but there is increasing tension and confusion here. do you have faith in warren jeffs? >> i don't know what's happened. >> reporter: the longer warren jeffs remains in prison the more bewildered his followers get. there are members of the church who left and others are trying to leave. thousands of them remain as dedicated as ever to their prophet warren jeffs and they couldn't care less about the
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justice department investigation. anderson? >> fascinating. gary, thanks very much. still ahead, new research suggesting that multivitamins may not do anything to help you stay healthy. dr. sanjay gupta will join us with that. also, if $1 billion is on your christmas list you may be in luck. we will explain next. the projects will be doner t in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. you give them the giggles. tylenol cold® helps relieve your worst cold and flu symptoms. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol cold®.
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tonight concerns and questions about two types of products that millions use every day to gain an edge in the battle to stay healthy. the fda is proposing a new rule that will require companies that make anti-bacterial soaps and washes to improve they are safe. they say they don't work any better than old soap and water and they may be harmful also. and questions about multivitamins and whether they have a benefit at all. chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins me now. now starting with the soap, they may be harmful? >> yeah, and i feel like i have been vindicated a little bit. >> i have heard you say this before. >> we talk about this all the time. but you know, it's interesting. with regard to the anti-bacterial soaps. you're right. the fda is saying basically,
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prove it. they are saying, look. we're not saying for sure they don't have a benefit but there really is not enough evidence to say they have additional benefit over soap and water and they could cause antibiotic resistance where you give too much of the antibiotics and try to kill too many of the bacteria and these bad bacteria start to emerge is what they are saying. they are saying to the manufacturers, prove it. the manufacturers say we have been sending in evidence for the last several years. and we think the case is made here. and the fda is saying not so fast here. >> what should people do to keep their hands clean? i know the answer but i want to hear you say it again. >> with regard to buying it, again, these are -- this is a significant statement. they are not saying that the jury is decided on this. they are saying that the case has not been made that anti-bacterial soap is any better than washing with soap and water and singing happy
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birthday twice. >> i love that. >> you do know that. and that is why you have been so healthy lately. i should point that out as well. and in hospitals and other places like cnn, they have the alcohol-based sanitizer. >> what about those? >> so those are -- this was not part of this new comment by the fda. those still seem to have good evidence and should have greater than 60% alcohol content in them to be effective. then they are pretty good at killing the bacteria. >> and let's talk about the multivitamins. an editorial released today says that the case is closed that supplementing the diet of well nourished adults with mineral and vitamin supplements has not clear benefit and might even be harmful. no benefit from taking multivitamins? >> yeah, look. this was a strongly worded editorial. it's based on three very large studies. you know, one of the studies had
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over 450,000 participants. it's a big study. it's called placebo controlled. this gave some a multivitamin and some a sugar pill. and they compared them. they looked at rate of having a heart attack or having memory problems. they found that these multivitamins did not provide any benefit. the language here. let me just read it to you real quick. the editorial was so strongly worded. pretty strong language there. >> so is this different from someone who is taking a specific vitamin because their doctor says you are deficient in this vitamin? that is different? >> that is different. they did leave an exception, specifically for vitamin d. a lot of people pay attention to this. a lot of people going to their doctor recently have been told
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their vitamin d. levels are low. there is evidence that taking a supplement for vitamin d could be beneficial. but not for other people who are well-nourished and don't have vitamin deficiencies. they don't benefit from the multivitamins. >> interesting. all right. sanjay, good advice. thanks very much. fascinating stuff. it's amazing that half of americans take multivitamins. >> let's get some of the latest on some of the other stories we are following. susan ren hendricks has more. >> the house ethics committee is investigating representative radel. he announced he was going to a drug treatment facility. a former army captain was sentenced to 28 years in prison for running a telemarketing charity scam that stole millions of dollars for veterans. authorities say the charity raised about $100 million from 2000 to 2010 with little going to help vets. and the mega millions jackpot is up to $586 million
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northeast tomorrow. it is great for snowman building. but in southern california people find creative ways to get their snow on. the high was 84 degrees in corona today. that's where this family built an igloo out of gallon milk jugs. lots of them! >> we had our friends and family drink milk and save the bottles. 1700 bottles later, we have an igloo. >> so now you know. it takes 1,700 gallons of milk to build an igloo. i don't get the opportunity to say this often but those are fine looking jugs. contrary to popular belief, instructing a -- what? constructing a milk jug igloo isn't all fun and games. >> it starts off the first row is 75 bottles we filled them with water. it gives them stability. >> stability is important.
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otherwise your homeade igloo is prone to collapsing and you are up to your neck in jugs. how long does it take? >> a total of 16 hours without building the arch, which we still have to do. >> about 150 more bottles and the flocking machine to flock the whole thing. >> you have to allow ample time to flock the whole thing with your flocking machine. i've never heard of that contraption before but apparently a flocking machine is how one makes fake snow on to various surfaces. >> we'll show you the versatility from the light jobs to the heavy flock jobs. >> let's turn the machine up. turn the water up. pull the trigger. >> that's the snow force flock machine from purcell manufacturing. tell them anderson sent you. the milk jug igloo is the center
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piece of a holiday party and toy drive. before you know it, they will be flocking around the christmas tree and proving even if you live in southern california is there a will and a way to build an igloo and have gallons of christmas fun. that is it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" begins now. bundle up! another storm bringing snow sleet and record low temperatures. who will be hit hardest? >> a stunning review to the white house. a judge says the nsa data vacuum is likely unconstitutional. so what will a white house do today with its spy program hanging in the balance? megamillions mania. tonight's jackpot now more than half a billion dollars and rising. could you end up being the big winner, john berman? >> no, i'm
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