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now that that is cleared up we can get back to more issues. whether santa is a democrat or republican. i will let someone else hash that out and say merry christmas to all and to all a good night. thanks for watching. next, an indian diplomat arrested in new york and india fights back. >> i think we have taken a tough stand. we do protect our foreign service officers and any other indian that is unfairly treated. >> who was the man behind the lawsuit that slammed the nsa spying program? >> our goal is to pry open this veneer of secrecy. >> and the mega millions jackpot passes $600 million. >> winning the mega millions is akin to getting struck by lightning at the same time you're being eaten by a shark. >> but hey, you never know, right? let's go "outfront."
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>> good evening. thank you for joining us. i'm in for erin burnett. "outfront," breaking news out of reason over, nevada. several people have been injured in a shooting at the renowned medical center in reno. a gunman is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. we go to joe johns has more on the story. i understand the details are still coming in. what can you tell us? >> that's very true. authorities say a gunman who walked into renounld medical center in reno, nevada and start shooting is dead himself. the injury was self-inflicted. it happened apparently in the neurology office on the third floor. the preliminary reports indicated that three other people had been injured but there's some could not surrounding that. it is an active shooter situation. it sounds like it was over very quickly as these things usually
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are with the shooter opening fire on the floor. then turning the gun on himself. police have said they did not engage the suspect with gunfire. the question here, motivation. whether that gunman was on patient. we just don't know the answers to any of those. a lockdown was ordered on the hospital campus and we're still waiting for word on whether that has been lifted. >> you're reporting now, we see it on the bottom of the screen. two dead, two injured. what about the condition of the victims. those who are still alive. >> no clue. no clue at all on the conditions of the victims. there was an initial report that there were two dead including the shooter and then police who gave us that initial report actually pulled it back and said there was only one person dead. so still confusion there. still wanting to know more facts ask waiting for the police to give as you briefing which we believe will happen at the bottom of the hour will. >> joe johns, stand by. we'll need you later.
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we're also following a developing story that is causing a firestorm in the u.s. and india. the indian government is calling tuesday barbaric and they're removing security barriers outside the embassy barriers in new delhi. it is because have an indian diplomat who was arrest asked strip searched on thursday. i was charged with visa fraud after submitting false documents to obtain work visa for her housekeeper. malika, angry reaction there. why has this created such an intense response? >> reporter: you're right. it really has created such an intense responsibilities. and people say it is humiliating that an inldian and a diplomat could be treated so poorly in the united states and the reaction has been unprecedented. the government is calling the treatment as barbaric. if you talk to anybody over here who has been following the story
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they say it is shameful, pits insulting. is india reacting? yes. india is certainly reacting. we've had top political leaders in new delhi refuse to meet members of a u.s. delegation that is visiting currently. we've also seen in new delhi, we've seen the government remove security from outside the u.s. embassy earlier today. we saw them remove the large concrete slabs outside the gates of the u.s. embassy and we've also seen the government strip away the diplomatic i.d.s given to u.s. diplomats in india which really restricts the diplomatic privileges that these diplomats enjoy in india. and still, some parliamentaryians say that is not enough them want more. >> i'm sure they understand this diplomat is accused of the lawyering accused of a rhyme and there are certain procedures in the united states. the officials here saying that they reviewed protocol. they'll continue to do it but they're saying it appears that
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everything for this arrest happened above board. is that s there that understanding there in india or no? >> reporter: to be honest, no, not really. over here the feeling is that she is a diplomat. she should be treated, you know, with dignity and people really aren't paying attention to whether this was above board or not. people are taking the matter very seriously. when you hear of a diplomat being strip searched, handcuffed in public. she was dropping her daughter to school. that is not playing out very well here at all. and i think one of the reasons why it is playing out so strongly over here is that remember, we are just a couple of months away from national elections here in india. so all the leaders of the political parties are going to take this very seriously and nobody can appear to be soft and nobody can appear to be unpatriotic. and i think that's one of the reasons you are going on see a lot of rhetoric around this story. >> i understand that she was arrested on $250,000 bail. i mean, she was released, i
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should say, and has pleaded not guilty in a manhattan courtroom. has anyone at least there in india heard from her family or from her? >> reporter: her father has been speaking out. he is based here in mumbai. he is saying that what happened to her, the treatment handleded to her was unjustified. that she is not a criminal. she has done nothing wrong. and the way she was treated is absolutely unjust. so her father has been speaking out over here. we have not heard from her directly but her family has been speaking out. and they say what has happened is simply wrong. >> thank you. in mumbai. we appreciate you joining us. i want to bring in susan candiotti who is here in the u.s. to talk to us about what authorities are telling her. what do you know? >> reporter: we're getting a much different pictures from u.s. authorities here. a lot of things to keep in mind. first of all, the diplomat when she was arrested according to
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the marshal service, they followed all the procedures they say they normally do and actually went above and beyond the call in some circumstances. for example there is a complaint that she was strip searched and she was placed in a cell with drug addicts. well, the procedures for u.s. marshal service when someone is put into custody is that in fact every person that is brought in to a facility is in fact strip searched. according to authorities for the protection of the people who work there as well as other defendants and other suspects with whom these people are plasd. whether she was placed in a cell with quote/unquote drug addicts, we got no response. she was placed in a cell with other female defendants. in terms of how she was arrested, authorities, a law enforcement source tells me in fact she was not arrested in front of her child after she was dropped off at an elementary
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school. she was picked up near the school after the child was dropped off and was not put in handcuffs as is normally the case. in fact she wasn't placed into handled cuffs until my sources tell me, until she arrived at the courthouse. and that's unusual. >> susan candiotti on top of it. this is causing quite an international stir. we'll stay on top of it. it looks like congress will finally pass a budget so have they shed their do nothing label? plus a girl goes to the hospital for routine tonsil surgery. now she is on life support. what the family is fighting the hospital to do. and the latest from the arapahoe high school shooting investigation. the gunman had a phrase written on his arm that tells the entire story here. seems every hotel has something to love...
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coming is getting closer to actually passing a budget. yet this congressional session is still on track to be one of the least productive in history. dana bash breaks it down. just how unproductive were our elected official this year? >> when you judge it by the bills that actually became law. those that went to the president's desk and he signed them into law, it is pretty bad. look at what the numbers are. and you can really see it in a stark way. 57 bills signed into law this year. now we do have another session. another year left of the 113th congress. if you look at it compared to the last three years, it won't come close to the 284, for example, in the last congress. so it is very, very low. if you judge the productivity by the number. i will tell you though, don, as you well know. there are a number of members of congress, mostly republican who's would say they should not
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be judged by the number of bills passed into law because they believe that it is just as productive to stop bad bills from law. and that has been some of the dynamic and what is marked this congressional session so far. >> so congress on its way to passing a budget. but there are only three working days left in this year. what are the big items left undone? >> there are so many. first and foremost, the main job of congress is to fund the government. and what they are supposed to do is pass 12 individual spending bills in order to do that. guess how many they've passed that have gone to the president's desk? zero. none of them has passed. that's number one. they'll have to wrap it into one. the farm bill which is incredibly important. and this has been language wishing for a year. there was a bipartisan deal in the senate. it is still in negotiations. but this has to do with not only setting foreign policy for agriculture across the country but it has other very important issues in there. for example, setting milk prices which affects every single american.
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immigration reform which started this year with the high hopes in the senate. passed the senate and it is languishing in the house. and then unemployment benefits which is a democratic priority. it is not been done this area but the senate majority leader harry reid will file to take that up the very first thing when they get back in january. >> dana bash, a very merry christmas over the one. appreciate it. it is supposed to be a routine tonsillectomy. now a 13-year-old girl is brain dead in an oakland high school. she had her tonsils removed on december 9th. less than 24 hours later she experienced serious complications that led to cardiac arrest. tonight she is being kept alive by a vent lator and her family is fighting to keep her on life support. stephanie elam has the story. >> reporter: it was a simple operation that was supposed to improve her quality of life. instead, jahi mcmath lay brain dead hours after surgery.
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>> i don't have any more tears. >> reporter: the 13-year-old was admitted to the children's hospital december 9th for a tonsillectomy which doctors prescribed to correct her sleep an 93. a she was alert after the surgery but then went into cardiac arrest after being moved to the intensive care unit. the medical team work to revive her. blood had filled her lungs and stomach. >> nobody called the doctor until it was too late. that's the problem. my daughter drowned in her own blood. >> reporter: the next day a ct scan showed that two-thirds of her brain was swollen. by friday further testing showed she was medically death. her death was record to the oakland coroner's office which was scheduled to take her body today. but the family who wants to keep her on life support handed the hospital a cease and desist order. jahi's mother wants more time for her child to show signs of brain activity. >> i went in there and cried and said check her brain one more time.
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do you have children? he said yeah. well then you should know how it feels. >> reporter: as for the hospital, the chief of pediatrics gave this statement. we can say whenever we see a medical or surgical complication, we are reviewing her case very closely, our hearts go out to her family and we want to support them during this extremely difficult time. >> just give her some time. it has only been through a week. she's been through a lot. she's had a heart attack and everything. thank you, children's hospital for ruining my child's life and my life and i feel like they owe her. they owe her another chance. >> reporter: a chance for a miracle. >> i feel her. i can feel my daughter. i feel like maybe she is trapped inside her own body and she wants to scream out and tell me something. that's why every time i go in there, i let her know i will not let them take you to the coroner's office. i won't. >> reporter: as far as the coroner is concerned, time is of the essence. the longer it takes for them to recover the body, and to see
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what went wrong inside her body, the body will heal itself while it is on the ventilator and it will cover up the traces of what may have gone wrong during that surgery. >> and millions of people go in for this surgery every year and nothing goes wrong. unbelievable. thank you very much. still "outfront." 59 tracks by the beatles are published for the first time. why now is? meanwhile, target says it will not sell beyonce's album. and later, why did bill nye the science guy change his mind about whether you should play the lotto? ♪ like, really big... then expanded? ♪ or their new product tanked? ♪ or not? what if they embrace new technology instead? ♪ imagine a company's future with the future of trading. company profile. a research tool on thinkorswim.
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to the beatles. a treasure trove of 59 recordings released on itunes today. many of which had been boot legged over the years but had never seen an official release. just a few days after the surprise release of a visual album from beyonce which sole over 800,000 copies in three days. an itunes record. christopher john farley is the speak easy editor with the "wall street journal" and the author of the upcoming game world. i like that. speak easy editor. i like that title. so let's start with the beatles, shall we? these recordings have been around for 50 years. what is the strategy behind releasing these now? >> they're releasing them for a very different reason than beyonce had. the european union has new copy right laws on the books and you can extend the copy right you have over a recording for 70 years. but the one catch is that
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recording has to be published. so various music company and entities are rushing out some of the stuff they have in the vault just to get it out. there whether a small release or a big release so they can say yes. now that work is copy right protected. so if you want to perform it or sing it or do something like that, you have to pay us. that's the reason why we're suddenly seeing these beatle recordings. so they come out. and there's some really interesting stuff. some stuff by john lennon that no one has really heard before unless you're some sort of super intense collectors. >> i want to say beyonce's album. i hesitate to say album. can we call that it? >> she is calling it a visual album. i think people are trying to come one a fancy name of michael jackson did the same thing. it hasn't changed that much. >> an album is really vinyl but she has reinvent what had an album means.
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it broke a ton of records. target stores say they don't plan to sell it. they said in a statement. them there are many aspects, while there are many aspects that continue to our approach and we have appreciated partnering with beyonce in the past, we are primary focused on cds. is this a wise move on their part? >> you have a big face-off here between the virtual and the real. target knows that itunes is getting all the attention for this beyonce album and you can only get on it itunes. it is not available in the physical world. all the people are walking to target saying where's my beyonce album and they can't buy it. target cannot let that happen so they're sending a signal that for future artists, if you want to do deals with itunes, maybe they won't carry your album also. they're really putting a big target on beyonce.
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the name of the store is target. that's a very big signal. >> i was going to say every pun intended for that. i'm sure you meant to say that. both were available for purchase. but pandora also becoming hugely popular. is it too early to tell which will win out or can they co-exist? >> beyonce is such a huge artist. she can get away with releasing an album on itunes and not tell people about it before handled. she has invested years of hype and building her brand. so there's so much hype around beyonce's very existence, she doesn't need hype to sell an album. other artists might need that. norah jones and billy joe armstrong released an album. it was hype-free. they let people know they were working on it. they dropped it out. there but we're not talking about it on cnn. at least we weren't before i just mentioned it. even though they're well known artist, they don't have the
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years have hype that beyonce has to make an album work bout promotion. some can get away with it. others can't. we'll to have see how it shakes out in the future to see if others begin to release things like beyonce. i think only the top tier super hyped artist will get away with what she got away with, dropping her album beyonce without a lot of advance promotion. >> the man with one of the coolest titles i think i've ever heard. the speak easy editor for the "wall street journal." christopher john farley. happy holidays. merry christmas. still to come, the nsa leaker is looking for a deal. which company might give him asylum this time? plus, more from toronto's crack smoking mayor. he is never going to live that down. [ coughs ] i have a cold with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something.
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statement from knox. in that she said i must repeat to you. i'm nnlt. i did not raid, i did not steal, i did not kill meredith. she said there was no evidence putting her at the crime scene. she returned to the united states after her guilty convict was overturn in 2011 and has not returned to italy since. the white house is sending a message to russia showing its dislike for the country's anti-gay laws. the delegation that will attend the opening and closing ceremonies of the 2014 olympics in sochi, russia, was announced. two of the people chosen are openly gay athletes. billy jean king, the retired tennis player, and kaitlyn, a former olympic ice hockey player. the delegation does not include the president, first lady, or vice president. it is the first time since 2000 a president, former president, first lady or vp has not led a delegation. we're learning new details about the arapahoe high school shooting. according to the arapahoe county
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sheriff, the 18-year-old student karl pierson planned to attack at least five areas of the school. apparently ted written, had written the five separate letters and number on his arm in marker. police say those numbers correlate directly with the identification of the school's library and nearby classrooms. they also say he wrote a latin phrase that translates to, the die has been cast. an "outfront" update. last month we will but the newtown police officer thomas bean. he was one of the first officers to respond to the december 2012 shooting at sandy hook elementary school. he was diagnosed with ptsd and has been unable to return to work. that led the newtown sheriff to request that bean be fired. we had learned tonight, the sheriff has withdrawn that request. cnn has not been able to reach him for comment. sigh. rob ford, toronto's crack smoking mayor it a again. last night we showed you this video of ford awkwardly dancing
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with the church choir. today he traded the choir members for the city council members. some brill yandle person decided to kick it off with some upbeat holiday music. there he is. and rob ford being rob ford, he could not help himself. i have to admit, given that it the holiday season. one of the first things when i saw this video was, bowls full of gelly. has the spirit there. you have to give it to him. hallelujah. edward snowden tries to make a deal. he is offering to help brazil investigate u.s. surveillance of brazilian citizens. in exchanger he wants asylum. the brazilian president canceled a trip over revelations based on documents obtained by snowden that the u.s. had spied on brazil. this comes one day after a big victory for the anlt spying could not continue gentle.
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a federal judge ruled the nsa's domestic program is likely unconstitutional. the ruling only applies to this single suit and it is somewhat controversial brought in part by a pretty controversial figure. larry clayman. >> reporter: this isn't his first legal crusade. >> our goal here is to pry open this veneer of secrecy. we are now ruled quote/unquote by a president who bows down to allah. >> reporter: last year he filed a lawsuit arguing that barack obama couldn't be president because, quote, neither mr. obama nor the democratic party of florida, nor any other group has confirm that mr. obama is a natural born citizen. back in the '90s, he file at least 18 suits against the clinton administration. he's also taken on former vice president dick cheney, facebook, opec, even his own mother. he is a professor of bjorntown
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university and a former member of george bush's senior staff. he too has been clued by mr. klayman. >> i think larry is a professional claim dlanl. he pretends he's fighting for the little guy when he is really fighting for himself and his own, in my opinion, delusions of grand you're. >> he has been at it for years. he founded the conservative government watch dog group, a group he later sued. yesterday's nsa ruling was a huge victory for klayman. a victory applaud by edward snowden who said, quote, today a secret program authorized by a seek court was when exposed to the light of day, found to violate americans' rights. it is the first of many. but his critics are quick to point out this battle isn't over. >> he may have won a battle. he has not won the war. there is a lot more to come in the appellate courts. this court could reach the supreme court. i don't think he has the ability
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either intellectually or legally to take this case to where it needs to go beyond the district court. my opinion. >> i want to bring in larry klayman now as well as cnn's senior legal analyst. to you first. you just heard one of your form he adversaries. he said you won the battle, not the wafrl he doesn't think you have the legal or the he will intellectual ability to take it to the finish. >> i would say to be one is to know one. i had to sue him because he used the freedom watching trademark. i brought a lawsuit. who run the venetian empire in las vegas and he has an axe to grind. i think it is important to note that you're a big supporter of obama. that you have favored him in every respect. you have to try to do a hit piece to diminish a very important decision. >> are you talking about me personally? >> i'm talking about you personally. >> you can continue on but none
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of that is true but go on. >> well, it is true. i've watched you for many years. you're an ultra leftist and a big supporter of obama. and let's talk about the nsa. this victory is for the american people. wasn't for me. and you, somebody from the left. and i've gotten more compliments from the left in the last few days than even from the right, should appreciate that you don't have a police state in this country that will be able to intimidate americans to chill their free speech rights, their associational rights. the nsa has data on all of us which deals with our personal lives. clearly a violation of the fourth amendment. rather than talking about that you have to try to take out somebody who is challenged president obama. and i'll stand by everything i've said andering i've done. >> listen. hang on, jeffrey. before you jump in. listen, i'm not here to get into an argument with you. nothing you have said has been correct about me or the reason we're doing this story. so you can continue to attack -- will you let me finish, please?
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you can continue to attack me or attack cnn or whatever you want to do will but let me say this. the only person who decides my political leengs, whether i'm left or right are me. the only person who know that for sure, is me. >> i'm not attacking cnn. >> i want you to -- >> let me finish. let me finish or i'm going on cut your mic and we'll finish the conversation. that is for me to decide. thank you very much. jeff, how far will this case go? >> let me read from this opinion. page 39. mr. klayman responded, why is he bringing this suit? i think they, the nsa, are messing with me. then went on to explain that he and his clients had received inexplicable text messages and e-mails not to mention a disk containing spy ware program. in other words this case is based on larry klayman's tin
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foil hat paranoia about the nsa being after him. this case is not about larry klayman. it is about the meta data program that affects everybody. the idea that larry klayman is the representative is simply outrageous. he is a professional -- and lunatic who should not be a representative of the very important issues of this case. >> go ahead. >> i'm surprised to hear you say that. because that is not what the case was structured on. why don't you read the opinion and see what the judge said rather than spending your time with me. we had differences during the clinton administration. like he is a big advocate of obama. you were a big advocate of sydney blumenthal. >> jeffrey, it's funny. let's let him go. >> real funny. it is not about me. and the fact that you want to try to do a hit on me shows me that you're not a serious person. and frankly, should not be doing
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legal commentary for cnn. >> i think there are very serious issues here. the idea that you are the representative is really very unfortunate. because there are important issues and they are not obvious in their resolution. but your paranoia and fantasies about the nsa being after you are unworthy of this important case. >> i think you should read the xlanlt. rather than shooting your mouth off. obviously, the judge didn't agree with you, jeffrey. read what he said. and you can find it at freedom watch usa. this is a disgraceful. >> oh, my gosh. are you okay? >> no. are you okay? >> this is not about me. come on. you made this about you. it is not about the xlanlt. i'm not good to go argue with you. thank you. can we get him off, please? can we please remove him from the screen? please remove him from the screen. >> you believe in free speech, right? >> producer, can we please remove him?
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>> jeffrey, are you there? continue on. what do you make of this? >> i think this case is, it is certainly going to be appealed to the d.c. circuit. it probably will be appealed to the united states supreme court and it is a hard case. i disagree with the judge in this case. richard leon. but it is clearly a very respectable position that he holds. a lot of people agree with him. a lot of people are very troubled. it reflects technology that is very different from the previous supreme court rulings on the subject. i don't know how this is ultimately going to come out. it is certainly a feather in the cap of edward snowden and of glen green wald who brought this case forward. who exposed the documents. i don't agree with them either. fair is fair. this is a huge win for them and i think these issues are going to be debated at a very high level for quite some time. >> all right. to show you we're going to be the bigger person, bigger people
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here, we'll give you the last word, sir. go ahead. >> last word is you're not the bigger people. don't kid anybody. let anybody watch this and see that cnn removes you from the screen when it doesn't like what you think. you're not cnn and tubin, you're not cnn. cnn is a reputable organization but you have not acted in a respectful way. you're more like martin bashir. >> thank you very much. >> merry christmas to you. more than a half billion dollars is up for grabs in tonight's mega millions. why your odds of winning just went down. and a pay-per-view event will feature a man fighting a woman for the first time. should it be allowed?
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christmas may come early for a lucky winner. more than a half million. now saying it stands at $636 million may soar to $1 billion one problem? it is getting even harder to win. bill nye the science guy has all the odds. like the jacket, by the way. listen. the lottery changed its rules in october and increased the pool of number you have to choose from. before october you had one in 176 million chance of winning. how much harder is it now to win? >> if you're going on lose either way. whether it is 176 million or 259 million. i'm not trying -- here's the problem with the lottery. i used to think it was okay. but a lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math. and in general, the reason they don't understand math is because we as educators have not made it
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clear what it means to have one in 259 million chance. imagine, don, imagine a gun. a revolver with 258,999,09 bullets. only one chamber that's empty. would you hold that weapon to your head for a buck? no. you will almost certainly lose. >> but lottery is not life or death for a lot of people. i guess it is if you don't make that much money. >> what happens, the kind of people that play the lottery are the kind of people in general, and don't want to get too far afield here, in general who can't afford it. and this is affecting, i know it is popular. and everybody holds on to this dream of winning. but in general, you will lose. there's much better chance that
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you'll become president of the united states. a much better chance you'll be hit by lightning twice in the same day. a much better chance you'll have quintuplets multiple time in your life. theors against you are extraordinary. you will almost certainly lose. whether it is 176 or 259, carry on, don. >> i'm going on start calling you bill nyi the downer guy. >> just think of all the money i haven't lost on the lottery. >> basically you're telling people, don't play the lottery. >> if you're somebody who is into it and you really want to challenge, take on other people, you can play black jack, play poker and have extraordinary, how to say, much, much, much, much, much better odds than playing the lottery but there's an appeal. hey, maybe i'll win a couple bucks. you will meet people who can ill afford it spending hundreds of dollars on the lottery. it is an unfortunate situation. as i say, i used to think it was
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a benign situation. i have come to look at it differently. >> you're such a killjoy. i'm crying in my tea. you're such a killjoy. merry christmas to you. thank you. >> it is joyful to know you can hold on to your money and spend on it gifts for your loved ones and enrich your holiday experience. >> being a billionaire would be a lot more joyful, bill nye. thank you. now let's check in with
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you've trained with guys. we're looking at a clip now on you in a dr pepper commercial where you can be seen sparring with a guy. i love this commercial, by the way, it's one of my favorites. is this a good idea? >> i'd have to disagree completely. what you see in my commercial is me sparring with a male, which i do very often, and a lot of women athlete whose are in sports like boxing and mma, we do spar with men, but sparring is controlled fighting, and it's in a controlled environment. you're in the gym. you got to work on things. going into a fight, whether you're sparring a male or a female, going into a fight is a completely different story. so actually competing against a male with the intent to, you know, knock the other person out, you know, i don't agree with that, no. >> jewel on that said i'm used to training with a man every day. i'm a professional judaka and i know the adrenaline of a competition and i know how to
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handle this but you don't agree. >> i'm not saying she can't potentially win. this is one circumstance, you know, if you were to make this a illegal across the board, the reason you have things like weight classes and divisions, you next you may have to have a certain amount of fights to be in certain division, these rules are there for a reason, to create an equal playing field and prevent mismatches. same thing with putting women against women and men against men. men are built differently and hormones are testosterone and too much to ignore that take away from keeping the equal level of playing field. there will be a lot of people that will be hurt. maybe not her individually, but
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there will be along the -- you know in the future. >> let's assume, assuming there are no special rules, right, none will be in place, what does a guy gain from this? is this something he would want to brag about really? >> you know, honestly, i don't know how many guys would be willing to go into a professional mixed marshall arts fight with a female. sometimes i have men turn me down just for sparring because they don't feel comfortable hitting a girl. i'm like no big deal, it's a sport. some men don't feel comfortable with it. i don't know how many guys would be willing to go in there with the intent to knock another female out, you know, it's different from sparring. so, i -- i really don't see how many could get to do that, but i don't know. >> you don't know. what's next for you? are you doing next? i love you in the commercial, and it sort of separates and talks about number ones and it's actually, listen, i don't follow your particular sport, and that
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was the first time i heard of you. there are big things ahead for you. >> thank you, thanks. yeah, it was a great opportunity for me to do that commercial, not just for me but my sport. i don't know how popular is olympic style boxes, it's not as mainstream as mixed marshall arts and professional boxing, so i think it was good for the sport in general. right now i'm in camp, in camp in michigan and training for u.s. nationals in january. >> michaela, thank you, good luck to you. appreciate you joining us here on cnn. >> thank you. next, george zimmerman is about to be $100,000 richer because of what he's selling on ebay. [ male announcer ] bob's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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do you have $100,000 to spend on artwork? i might have the piece for you. this 18 x 24 inch painting, despite on being painted on latex paint it received 98 bids. the current high is at $100,000. you might wonder what makes it so special. it's the artist behind it that has everyone so interested. the painter is george zimmerman. shortly after being found not guilty zimmerman took up painting and it's a decision because of his celebrity is proving to be profitable. because there are strange
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paintings on ebay, the virgin mary, cream cheese, it's usually the ones with a celebrity connection do the best. that's why justin bieber's toast went for $10,000 and william statner's kidney stone went for money. people want a piece, literally. the painting looks remarkably like this stock photo available through shutter stock at a lot less than $100,000. but we want to hear from you. i wonder fit was a painting by numberers. what's the strangest thing you ever painted online and would you buy a painting by george zimmerman? let us know on twitter out don lemon or out front at cnn.
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