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first order of business is to take that shit down. am i right or what? i'm kind of amazed. tear that [ muted ] down. ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ sha la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪

in july 2013, when i went to south africa, 95-year-old nelson mandela was critically ill. in the country he freed from white minority rule was already in mourning. and already fearful of what the future might be without him. >> it's really sad because the world still needs him. he's the guy that fought for our freedom. >> i pray that he -- somebody takes baton from him. >> i wish him a speedy recovery. and come back to his people. ♪

>> so a good friend of mine, a really great travel writer, said something. the more i travel the less i know. i feel that particularly strongly in south africa, a place i came in a state of near total ignorance. loaded with preconceptions. for the first part of my life, the south africa i knew was not a happy place or a good place. it was a pariah state. surrealistically, outrageously divided into black and white. a throwback to attitudes we thought we'd long learned to reject. ♪ >> the nationalist government in south africa enacted apartheid laws in 1948. who you could marry. where you lived. where you could walk, be educated, everything decided by racist laws backed by police,

army and secret services. the institutionalized racial discrimination was designed to maintain white minority power and economically suppress the black and mixed race south africans who lived in townships, mostly in poverty. in 1923, the african national congress was formed. by 1961, it had been radicalized by the influence of a young nelson mandela, among others, and formed an armed wing called the spear of the nation. >> do you see africans being able to develop in the country without being pushed out? >> we have made it very clear in our policy that south africa is a country of many races. there is room for all the various races. >> in 1963, mandela was charged with sabotage and conspiracy and sentenced to life imprisonment

on robben island. it would take another 27 years of silence and injustice before the inevitable would happen. >> do you believe in apartheid? >> i believe according to god's will that the white race should be preserved. >> south africa's white minority under international sanctions, internal political pressure and the decline of the communist threat, mandela was released from prison in 1990. in '94, he was elected president of the new, free south africa. ♪ there have been very few figures in the entire history of the world as revered or as important as nelson mandela. but the question is, what happens next? ♪

>> johannesburg or joburg or jozi. the largest city of population in south africa. and the economic powerhouse of the country. southwest of johannesburg, soweto. originally an acronym for southwestern townships. now the area is considered a suburb. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> in 2010, south africa played host to the world cup. the blackjacks who played for the opening celebration are a soweto-based band. they are also, not surprisingly, soccer fans. ♪

>> we're here on game day. a grudge match in a country where soccer approaches religion. you can feel it in soweto or rather you can see it as everywhere you look people show their love for the local orlando pirates or johannesburg kaiser chiefs. mawilies inn. a typical local joint in soweto. the perfect place to talk about a game, drink yourself silly over the results of a game, or just have a very fine local style meal. it is, however, a little hard to find. there are a lot of places like this? this used to be the garage or the carport, right? >> yeah. definitely. >> in what was once a garage are now six tables. a lawn turned lounge out back. closed on sundays if grandma's

visiting. these kinds of bars were born during apartheid times when black south africans not allowed to own businesses in white areas adapted and improvised. they did their own thing. created these little micro, under the official radar restaurants known around here as eat houses. >> back in the days, obviously, it was illegal. >> right. >> during apartheid. so they will have meetings to actually plan what they're going to do. >> right. this would be considered a hotbed of sedition. >> exactly. >> now it's just a hot bed of drinking. >> yeah. different kind of sedition. >> impume and sowpeng from the blackjacks have just finished watching the game when i join them for food. are these good times in south africa? bad times? transitional times? >> 1994 was the peak of the good time in south africa. then now with the other politics

and other parties fighting, it's quite tense right now. >> it's not like it was before where everybody's -- you know, it's black and white. literally. we're unified on this. they're unified on that. >> these days, the party that freed the country from white rule, the anc, is not universally loved anymore. in recent years they've been criticized for inaction, corruption and cronyism. and opposition parties are gaining strength. >> so now it's more nuanced. and i think that's maybe new to us. so i think we're trying to navigate this nuanced reality. how do you deal with so many opinions? the party that you loved the whole time, that brought about this freedom, is fumbling the ball. so what do you do? because in democracy, you should act.

>> smileys. fire roasted sheep's head. lips shrivelled back in a joker like rictus of deliciousness. chopped into tasty, tasty bits and eaten with cold beer? yes, of course, yes. just needs a little salt and pepper. >> good stuff. that looks good. >> it's pap. >> what is it? >> it's like maize. >> pap or meal pap, a sticky porridge made from ground meal. it fills the role grits do in the american south, rice in much of asia. it's tasty, relatively nutritious and cheap filler. it sops up gravy when you have something like this stewed beef real good. >> that's a dumpling. >> that's a dumpling? >> dumplings. important throughout the africa diaspora. made with flour and yeast. a spongy, bread type tool for mop it up sauce.

stewed greens, carrots, beans and more gravy. >> that's awesome. tell me about your band. how long have you guys been together? >> about ten years now. >> whoa. a long time. >> yeah. >> would you say you were an indie band? is there an indie theme? what i guess i'm getting at, is there a -- i was getting there. >> is there a south african williamsburg. ♪ >> in terms of south african street culture, people are really pushing the boundaries now. we didn't really have a scene when we started. you look around. it's like, man, like demographic is crazy. >> what do you mean by that? >> it's not just racial, but classes, you know. >> people are being pushed and

pulled. >> it's like an aspirational culture. >> what do you think that means? >> the whole rainbow nation notion was quite romantic and ridiculous. you know, like racism is not on a piece of paper. just because we voted it out doesn't mean people stop being racist. it's ridiculous in that sense. but we've lived something else for 20 years. people want it. it's no longer like a coffee table idea. [ female announcer ] who are we?

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shop space in the neighborhood of johannesburg and done something different. yeoville is a neighborhood where just about everybody comes from somewhere else. >> i came here around ten years ago from soweto. i grew up in soweto. then when heard about the bells of change, we all ran to the central part of the city. >> with the end of apartheid and the emergence of mandela as not just an inspirational figure but the beginning of real and compassionate black african government, south africa became a beacon and a refuge for millions of after cans from all over the continent. >> black south africans fought hard for their freedom and their country. as i understand a lot of them are pretty pissed off about we're just getting our [ muted ] together and all these congolese and nigerians are coming here. >> there's got to be that giving and taking. and people have been saying when mandela dies we're going to kick all these people away.

that's not what we're all about. that's when i took the tool of food as the best way to engage. >> sanza has no formal culinary training. he's completely self-taught. picking up bits and pieces when we can. often from the women in the neighborhood. >> you're plucking the best of everybody's culinary culture. >> every day. every day i learn. what are you eating? where are you foreign minister? i've been taught by some men. that's not how it's cooked at home, you know? go to that auntie. to the back of some dingy cab. there's a small kitchen. look, there, it'll be nice. hey, auntie, you know, i'm really keen on knowing how you make your particular sauce. >> they'll show you? >> they'll so me stuff. i pick up. then i rush back to the shop and i try it out. so i have all the elements now. >> at his cook shop he mixes recipes, ingredients, techniques and traditions as he sees fit. one reviewer described his style moving people across borders

with dishes that that slyly par take of elsewhere. on today's menu -- >> i made this for you. this is egusi and beef. >> beef stewed with melon and pumpkin seeds. there's futu. ubiquitous cornmeal porridge. made to a texture more crumb bli than pap. >> good taste. oh, yeah. awesome. good food here. menu change every day? you do a lot of great food in a small space. >> there were no seats. his customers remain part of the constantly unfolding street theater of yeoville. they mingle, talk, observe.

>> with food, i knew food is a way to engage. got to put something in your mouth to get your ears open, you know. ♪ >> across town, another pioneer of sorts. an urban settler in a very different neighborhood. this is hillbrow. a notoriously dangerous district. and this is deejay lez. >> when i came here, i always dreamed of being a musician. i see myself singing in front of huge crowds, you know, making money in the process. that's what i dreamt about. >> he spins records and promotes acts and events in nightclubs. we meet in his favorite spot. sympathy's restaurant. what's good? what do you like? that looks good. is that fried chicken? >> that's the fried chicken.

>> the place is heavy with the smell of frying chicken, stewing greens. walk right up. place your order. and be sure to get some mill pap. heaped on a plates with beets and coal slaw, it's a nice, heavy base. >> tell me about the neighborhood. >> when i first came, it was rough, my friend. >> before '92, it was like white business district? residential district? >> back then, it used to be clean. used to be respected. >> once hillbrow was an elite whites only center of town. but when things started to change, so did hillbrow. becoming one of the first gray areas where whites and blacks mixed. hillbrow became aspirational. a symbol of everything black africans had long been denied. but was now accessible. people poured in in large numbers. many of them squatters from all

over the continent. >> people come here, they come here with one intention. making a living. making money. started coming here. >> white landlords and tenants simply walked away from their property. the disenfranchised who moved in legally, semi legally, illegally or just squatting, an influx of gangs and criminal organizations, the area soon slipped into anarchy. >> there's a saying around here. okay? this building's been hijacked. >> entire buildings were seized to become superstores for illicit drug operations. >> everything that could go wrong, did. >> people make a living from different things. some rob people to make a living. some hurt people to make a living. some they sell their bodies. sometimes things aren't always according to what you plan. this is where i live. this is where my life is. i'll show you.

>> we talk down the street and one of the many enterprises doing business on corners and in doorways around us becomes alarmed at the sight of our cameras. soon there's a mob of very angry people coming our way. we do not turn around our cameras for obvious reasons. these days things are slowly, slowly improving. >> but before, we wouldn't walk this freely. now we are free. >> there's actual law enforcement going on in fits and starts. and that's making a difference. black owned legitimate businesses have gained a real foothold. there are new revitalization projects like farmer's markets springing up. buildings are being reclaimed. and people here hope that hillbrow is past the bad old days. >> there's no fear now. you have to relax. ♪

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♪ what's in a name? if the name is soweto, you best believe it means plenty. this is madu. for over a decade he's been in what has at times been the very difficult business of driving a taxi. you should probably know that the word taxi in soweto means something a little different than, say, new york.

>> how many taxies in johannesburg. >> i would say a million. >> this coming from a particular passenger means soweto. also this and this. johannesburg has an elaborate system of hand signals indicating desired routes of travel. >> you're looking at the hand signals and say i'm not going there, i'm not going there. >> i'm looking at hand signals. >> in 1994 soweto came into being as a less benign project as workers lodging. a place to put black laborers comfortably removed from white society. a ghetto. by the 1950s it had become the center of resistance to white rule. synonymous with the struggle against the whole rotten racist system.

>> now there is a definite cachet to having lived in soweto. a very real pride back at being in the center of things when it was hard and dangerous to have an opinion. nelson mandela lived here. desmond tutu. when you're of certain age and you say you were born and bred in soweto, it means something. do mostly people own their homes or rent? >> mostly people own their homes. >> they start to make a little more money. things start to get a little better. can you build up? >> you can build up. >> look at the streets here and you see what that kind of pride

does. it may not be a rich area, but it's immaculate. squared away. an emerging middle class coming up, rather than fleeing to elsewhere. >> you know where you're going, right? >> yeah. i know where i'm going. >> next exit? smoky delicious meat over flame. under the overpass, all sorts of mystery meats for sale. the taxi man's lunch. we order some brisket, some sausage, some heart. beautiful thing. meat, a cutting board, a knife. >> you chose well. these guys are good. ♪

>> here, spread over thousands of square feet, the remnants of white colonial rule. what's left from the descendants of bible thumping dutch settlers who came here to farm, to ranch, to build their own world on top of an existing one. >> the boers as they were known came in the 1600s. if nothing else can be said about them, they were a tough bunch. in the 1800s the british came. diamonds were discovered. greed heads jockeyed for power. there was war, and an ugly one. in the end there was an uneasy sharing of power. the boers became known as afrikaners. in the 20th century racist afrikaners ideology grew. apartheid was enacted. white domination became the rule

for almost 100 years. but look. meat. you want to see an ex-pat south african weep, wave some of this under their nose. it's like a mussolini themed restaurant? >> yeah. that's it. that's it. neofascist butchery. >> in the good old days. >> doesn't look like any butcher i've been into. >> an hour north by northwest of johannesburg is pretoria. still the administrative center of south africa. once the heart of apartheid. here you can find a father/son butchery, restaurant and themed museum. i just don't know how i feel about this place. it doesn't fit in with my white liberal guilt sensibility. >> it just wouldn't be accepted. couldn't exist. >> as any south african butcher would, they sell biltong. they sprinkle salt, brown sugar, more vinegar, pack in layers, repeat. after 24 hours remove and hang

to air dry for a week. voila. a tasty jerky treat we can all get behind. chef andrea burgener, south african by birth, english and german by background, with usually be found in the trenches of her joburg restaurant, the leopard. she's known for her playful menus but loathes culinary fashion. she strives for a locally grounded cuisine. today, she's my guide through this twilight zone. ♪ >> it's weird here. and though i'm told the place usually reflects the changing demographic of modern south africa, today, not so much. the customers may or may not have feelings about the afrikaner memorabilia. really they just come for meat. you pick your meat at the butcher counter. we choose some t-bone, some rum steak, some boorhurst.

spicy sausage made from beef and pork. >> our secret ingredient is monkey gland sauce. >> every steak house has monkey gland sauce. it's barbecue sauce. >> they cook it up along with some pap and fries and presto. a colon clogging pile of meat in the ruins of empire. >> yeah. i mean, meat is a very big thing. there's enough of it, i think. >> good lord. i can swim in it. >> tastes like oppression. >> after this show airs, i'm going to get a huge amount of mail saying why didn't you go to cape town? great modern restaurants. cutting edge chefs. is it all right i missed all that? >> i feel like those particular restaurants in capetown are not really representative of what most people in this country are eating. i think a lot of our most basic stuff is really what we do best. this food is absolutely got no interest in fashion. it's never going to change. there'll still be the monkey gland sauce. >> you think the white chefs

here understand the greatest advantage they have is that this enormous pan african larder of ingredients and flavors? >> no. if you're a whitey in the city you're probably going to eat the worst food of anyone in the city, quite honestly. in every country, obviously food is political. it always feels like it's a bit more political here. that there are these layers of things that you couldn't have. like restaurants. i go to restaurants. i think to myself, wow, this many years ago, i couldn't have come here with this person. they were not allowed to sit in here. and i remember very clearly being around 8. the cafe owner would regularly not pay the customer who was black with change. he would pay him with bubble gum. and the guy somehow, he couldn't argue. if you were a black guy, you got your change in bubble gum. you'd be standing there 8 years old feeling like, oh, my god, it

was so terrible. but you couldn't say anything. because that would have been worse. it represented such badness. it just seems mad. ♪ hoo-hoo...hoo-hoo. hoo-hoo hoo. sir... i'll get it together i promise... heeheehee. jimmy: ronny, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? ronny: i'd say happier than the pillsbury doughboy on his way to a baking convention. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.

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this is an eland. the largest antelope in the world. it is also, unluckily for him, delicious. [ gun shots ] >> got him. got him. >> got him. >> i think that was very good. >> it's a little sad. >> i'm sorry. >> but you know what? that is such good meat. that's really what we do. >> though this one weighs in around a ton, rest assured, every bite, every scrap, will be eaten. some of that, tonight at dinner.

chef andrea burgener, deon, a local hunting expert, and myself join prospero bailey on his game farm. his dad was the legendary publisher of the slyly subversive rum magazine. a black oriented investigative magazine slickly disguised as glossy pop culture. prospero's farm is a mere 20 miles from johannesburg. >> you see the city there? >> yeah. to have all this in sight of the city. >> near his farm and hidden within the city's shadow is what's known as the cradle of humankind. a unesco world heritage site. an incredible look back at where we, the human animal, came from. >> it's a classic little sink hole. >> there are loads of these. this is what this area is.

the cradle. it's called a cradle. now a world heritage site. because 60% of all the evidence for human evolution comes out of the valley. it's from caves like this that keep the record. that geology just conspires to preserve fossils. they're very, very rare things. hominid fossils. but they're found more here in the last ten years than they're found anywhere. so you're home. this is where you started. >> this is my ancestral homeland? >> this is your ancestral homeland. ♪ >> that sound makes me happy. what does that sound remind you of, guys? what does that evoke for you, that sound? primeval. your enemy's genitals frying in hot oil? nothing?

>> downright pre-cambrian. >> i get to work on the heart. something i strongly suspect will be delicious. and i'm right. andrea works her magic on the liver. dredged in flour and sauteed. this loin seared and glazed with booze. there's eland paprikash. a riff on the hungarian stew with paprika, peppers, onion, tomatoes and cream. as the sun sets over the belt, johannesburg's lights blinking in the distance, a feast. meat on the plate. blood on my pants. life is good. [ laughter ] >> i've been very, very, very confused by my visit here. you've got basically a goulash here. the bread someone referred to as portuguese? >> yep. >> portuguese but it's from madera.

that bread. flat bread. >> south africa depending on who i talk to is a completely different construct. so some people someone who comes from somewhere else in africa and brings good stuff with them. or people all the good stuff from malaysia, east indies, dutch, english influence. >> there were so many different colonialists. >> what at this table is originally african, and does that have a meaning? >> this wood is pine. >> i arrived in this country spectacularly ignorant. i will leave spectacularly ignorant. (music: instrumental version of "have yourself a merry little christmas") they're here! grandma and grandpa! ♪ merry christmas. ♪

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ramadan. at this hour, all over johannesburg. members of south africa's sizable muslim community observe. the religion of islam as well as many of south africa's most beloved and most delicious dishes and ingredients like sambal, chutney and bunny chow come from malaysia, indonesia, india. during apartheid many south africans would have been referred to as colored. colored didn't mean black. it meant everybody else who wasn't exactly white.

asians and mixed race. >> it's garlic, ginger and chiles. >> in the observatory neighborhood of johannesburg, the rasdian family prepares for the meal at sundown when fasting for ramadan is broken. joey is a standup comedian, an actor of cape malay background. this dish, panang curry with beef and eggs. joey's wife, cindy, prepares a chicken pie. son, hakeem, makes the traditional ramadan shake. daughter, laya. ♪ >> everything smells terrific.

>> that's barley soup. >> it's nicer to have soup after you've not eaten the whole day. it's light and nourishing and filling and all of those good things. >> there's also cheese and beef samosas. these are delicious. you were born here. born in johannesburg? >> yes, i was. i am a johannesburg guy. >> so how are things? >> it depends on what you are speaking about. >> basically things work. society operates the way society should. but on the other hand, many ways this is a new country. >> it is. it's 19 years old. >> i think the africans from the other countries see south africa as a place of hope. because there's a lot bustling here, there are a lot of opportunities, lots of people might get from here. after caps would come from far to find a little bit of something here.

>> so how do you find south africa so far? >> i'm very comfortable here. i like a country where people have a sense of humor. there's a lot of ball busting going on in this country. >> all the time. from the top to the bottom. >> 20 years from you, what's it going to be like? >> their generation, the born frees now is the one that's giving our current president lots of hell. the ones born in the new democracy. or just before the first election. >> right. >> the born frees are like, look here, we went to school. this is right and this is wrong. what you're doing is wrong. but we're at a struggle. we weren't part of a struggle. i don't care. thank you for the struggle. >> i want five bars on my 3g, i want wi-fi, and it better be high speed. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> and why can't i have it? >> why can't i have it? >> i don't think the current politicians foresaw that. foresaw the born frees not supporting them.

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no more hipster jokes. it's low hanging fruit. and one can no longer argue against the steady creek of their foodie sensibilities. cheeses, yes, right over there. hand made, yes. there. thin crust pizza, a very respectable paiella, yes, yes and yes. it's official. they're here and they aren't going anywhere. i like the idea of a burger for breakfast or is there something perverse about that. throw in a crowd of much more racially diverse, hungry people, and you might think you're brooklyn. surely, this is not a bad thing. this is neighbor goods market in johannesburg. my dining companion features writer percy mumbando says we should hold out for this.

the balkan burger. >> one with lots of cheese. >> flattened ground beef seared over flames. >> cook the food right. >> add mozzarella cheese, fold it up, pick your condiments. cabbage, tomato, onion, lettuce, hot peppers. up to the roof with a view and eat. spicy. good. i guess i want to talk about nelson mandela. because what i was not aware of at all was the degree to which he was personally responsible for really the nuts and bolts of the transition from white rule to majority rule. now he's very ill. >> yeah, yeah. >> what happens after mandela? >> we go on. and i think the foundation is

laid. and i think thank god we have him as a symbol. i think mandela represents our collective better intentions as a nation. the test we use to check the way forth. >> all the things that could have gone terribly wrong, it's a remarkable thing how well it went. >> between 1990 and 1994, tough times, you know, intercity fighting. black-on-black violence. black-on-white violence. but we transcended that coming together regardless of the unresolved issues. >> to what extent is it really a rainbow nation, are things getting mixed? we like to think we live in a rainbow nation, but in fact, in the states like to a great extent the races are living in different neighborhoods. in some ways it looks to me outside looking in a little more gracefully mixed up than we've managed in the states. >> here you've got black, white,

colored, all sorts of people here. but i think in all fairness i want to acknowledge that the economic disparities are managing to keep us divided as well. i think what we need to do is unpack what we mean by rainbow. i think the ideal of being united in our diversity also means that there'll be moments of discord. >> and you think things will continue to improve? >> yeah. i think we've seen our worst. and that's not to say that we're getting it right all the time. but it's an experiment with democracy, and an experiment you need to fine tune as you go along. that's really the south african story. the dream is there. we all agree the divisions are there. but these are not bigger than our hopes. >> what did i know about south africa before i game here? exactly nothing, as it turns out. but i think based on what i've seen, that if the world can get it right here, a country with a past like south africa's, if

they can figure out how to make it work here for everybody, absorb all the people flooding in from all over africa, continue to make mandela's dream a reality, maybe there's hope a reality, maybe there's hope for the rest of us. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com tonight how millions are handling a holiday on ice with power lines down from michigan to maine, roads too dangerous to drive. we'll tell you what's happening and who's about to get hit again. also tonight this, wouldn't happen to santa. u.p.s. and fed-ex scrambling to deliver what they couldn't deliver on christmas. we'll see how they explain missing the big day for so many people. and later, two groups of people in pain. one gets a common kind of knee surgery, the other gets a phony operation. which group does better, do you think? well, the answer will surprise you. but we begin with the dangerous holiday weather, deadly weather. authorities now blaming it for at least 19 fatalities in parts of the u.s. and canada. there are power blackouts,