courage or betrayal? 55% so far say betrayal. >> the debate will continue online at cnn.com/crossfire as well as on facebook and twitter. >> join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." "erin burnett out front" starts right now. good evening. i'm don lemon. the president doesn't believe in his own strategy. that's one part of a scathing new critique of president obama from a former member of his own cabinet former secretary of defense bob gates slams the president's leadership and commitment to the war in

afghanistan. we're just getting the details tonight about what's in this bomb shell of a book. jim shuto has the excerpts and they are unbelievable. the president doesn't believe in his own strategy. sometimes he did not give the administration information about strategies for military in war because he says the white house and the administration did not know what to do with it. here's the report. >> reporter: in his new book titled "duty", the former secretary of defense delivers a scathing critique of the white house. "the new york times" and "washington post" report gates writes by early 2010 he had concluded the president "doesn't believe in his own strategy and doesn't consider the war to be his. for him, it's all about getting out." the papers report that gates, who served under presidents bush and obama, grew concern about the president changing course

and the president was "skeptical it f not outright convinced it would fail." he never doubted obama's support for the troops, only his support for their mission. the book is not set for release until january 14th, but late today both papers published detailed stories about its content. gates is especially hard on obama's advisers the papers report calling joe biden a man of integrity but arguing he's been wrong on every foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades. gates is more flathering at times praising him for making decisions opposed by advisers or that would be unpopular with fellow democrats. that's something gates hinted applied to the president's wa war-making decisions to cnn john king in 2012. . >> i think the reality is there's an acknowledge on people's part around the world

that this president is willing to use military force when our needs require it. >> reporter: he called the president's decision to launch the ray that killed osama bin laden despite gate's own doubts one of the most courageous decisions i had ever witnessed in the white house. on hillary clinton, gate. s makes a potentially damaging charge to a 2016 potential run saying hilary told the president that the surge in iraq had been political because she was facing him in the iowa primary. the white house is pushing back hard particularly at one of the charges in the book. this from a spokesperson for the national security council on the record saying that the president disagrees with secretary gates' assessment from his leadership to the efforts to end the war in iraq. joe biden has been one of the leading statesman in his time and advanced leadership in the world. president obama relies on his good council every day. we have heard pushback from inside the pentagon. a senior military official telling barbara starr reaction

with dismay saying if secretary gates was in uniform he would have had the obligation to resign. you're getting pushback from some of gates own colleagues. >> controversial is an understatement. thank you very much for that. joining me now is chief political analyst gloria borgeer. i have so many questions for all of you. david, i'll start with you. bob gates worked for every president since nixon. he served under democrats and republicans. he knows what he's doing. the question is, why? >> why does he share his views at the end of his career? >> why is he releasing this now? >> people do tend to share their views. they are free to speak. they have messages they want people to hear. i think his message on afghanistan is especially important. because remember the afghanistan surge was the signature barack obama foreign policy of 2008. he campaigned on it.

the bush administration was careful about overinvesting in afghanistan and candidate obama slammed the bush administration for that, promised deployment of troops to afghanistan. some wondered if that was a way looking strong on defense or did he mean it. and now it looks like the answer is it was a cynical politics. >> but wouldn't it have been more effective to do it at the time, better for the administration, better for everyone all around instead of all the the end of his career. he said he sat there in meetings seething sometimes and it took everything not to get up from the table or not to give people in the room a piece of his mind. >> people argued for policy in administrations and lose the fights and then afterwards maybe this should be a universal role that nobody does it it. but people do it it it now. that's a convention that people say here's what i thought at the time. now i'm free to speak about the fights i won and the fights i

lost. >> were you surprised to see this criticism from a former member of his cabinet. he says he was talking about don't ask, don't tell. then other things that the president did. i thought that the agreements with the obama white house were good for only as long as they were politically convenient. that's a pretty big statement. >> it is. bob gates was a terrific career. i can't wait to read this book. i would really rather these types of books come after the president's term is over. i do think when you serve a president, you do owe him or one day we hope her the highest duty of loyalty chrks is to speak your mind while you're there. not when you're gone. and this guy did great service to our country. i don't want to run him down. i don't know him personally, but

i'm an admirer. i think in the reviews of the book, several people including "the new york times" reviewer suggested that he's working through some emotional scars of his own. he went through hell helping lead our country through difficult wars. i'm glad that the president expressed skepticism and doubt about his own war policy. that's what i want. i want my commander-in-chief to have a lot of skepticism and doubt about what's going on in a war instead of just blindly and pig headedly sending more soldiers into combat. >> did i hear you nodding, gloria? >> yeah, i do agree with paul. i think it's probably better, but probably not as marketable if you wait until after a president is out of office. but in reading what i've head of this book, and again, i obviously haven't read the whole thing, but i read excerpts of it and the pieces about it. the thing that strikes me is that bob gates was the secretary

of defense who says that he didn't mind that policy was being driven by white house and this is noun to be a very controlling white house. they said that's okay. the policy was driven by the white house. but what seemed to have really annoyed him time and time again was the suspicion of the military that he said ran rampant within the white house. and so here's a man clearly defending his commanders, a great belief in the people who work for him at the department of defense and he believes that they were being treated badly and that they were greeted always with a kind of skepticism, which as paul points out, is sometimes very healthy, but i think gates is saying sort of went beyond the peal. so i think what you're seeing is somebody who has a lot of emotion about the way his people were treated. >> he talks about going up

against -- exactly what you're talking about. one point they had disagreement, don't give the white house staff and national security staff too much information on the military options. they don't understand it. that's not good for national security, gloria. >> it may not be, but it was a reality. i recall during the whole run up to the surge that the president had these meetings and meetings and meetings which gates describes as very frustrating. and i think you saw this kind of conflict play out. there's always a conflict between the military and the political people. we understand that. but i think the basis of it is that he didn't feel that there was a kind of a mutual respect that are trying to make decisions in the best interest of the american public. >> also talking about hillary clinton and the president saying, hey, listen, i didn't like the surge in 2007 and doing

in front of bob gates because i was going to face you in a primary in iowa, which was interesting. bob gates saying i was shocked that they did that in front of me. more to talk about. thank you, guys. that's it for now. still to come, tens of millions of americans enduring major delays on roads and runways. freezing temperatures reporting in all 50 states. plus a story we have been following for months takes a tragic turn. a girl who says she was raped, bullied and forced out of her town attempts suicide.

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cold. the arctic chill is also being blamed on at least 16 deaths. and with relief still a day away, americans will have to endure even more delays on the roadways, runways and the rails. we have more on the bone-chilling weather. >> reporter: stuck in the snow on a train after more than 14 hours amtrak passengers, many who start thard journey in california, finally arrived in chicago. not by train, but by bus. >> i can't feel my butt because it's not there anymore. just sitting for literally 26 hours is awful. >> reporter: more than 500 people on three trains were strabded oversniegt because of blowing snow and ice. they were fed and kept warm, but -- >> 300 people on a train, everybody using the same faciliti facilities. it gets a little gross. >> the worst part was not knowing when we were going to get here. >> reporter: the same continues to play out in airports. cancelled today, including a

third of the flights here at chicago's o'hare. across the country, stranded passengers are sleeping on cots waiting to find out when they can finally get home. this guy spent two days stuck at laguardia trying to get to chicago. >> my flight got cancelled twice and i was not even informed. >> reporter: on the road things were just as bad in many areas. in illinois hundreds of people stranded in vehicles had to be rescued. some freeways including a portion of interstate 65 in indiana were completely closed for hours because of unsafe conditions. >> the main roads are great. the back roads are still slippery. i have my baby in the back. i'm trying to go slow. >> reporter: things are getting much better around the midwest. we're into the single digits and quite frankly feels pretty balmy. >> balmy, thank you very much for that, ted.

you're getting use to it. that's what that means. now to an update on a story bef we have been following for you. sad news regarding dazy cole mannd'man, the young woman who was raped two years ago. according to her mother has been hospitalized after trying to kill herself. her story made national headlines last year after it was revealed chargers against the older boy were quickly dropped. we have more on what may have led to this young woman's attempted suicide. we want to warn you. some of the images amay be offensive. >> reporter: it was a united ral rallying cry, supporters clutching daisies and chanting in missouri for daisy cole man. bullying intensified for the teenage rape victim. her mother tells cnn her daughter tried to kill herself after cyber bullies attacked her on facebook. the 16-year-old is now in the

hospital. her distraught mother says she's not sure if she's going to make it. last fall daisy told cnn that bullying has been a constant struggle. >> you hear it it so often that you're all these different things, you start to believe it. and i really did start to hate myself. >> reporter: this traces back to what she says happened two years ago. just 14 at the time, she and a 13-year-old friend say they were raped by two high school boys after a night of drinking. charges against the boys were dismissed. the local prosecutors saying daisy refused to testify. but daisy's family calls that a lie saying the real reason is political power. oneover the accused matt barnett, his grandfather is a former state representative. daisy and her family were run out of maryville, a stark example, they say, of victim

blaming. online anonymous picked up the cause and the social media frenzy helped reopen the case led by a new special prosecutor. daisy's cousin said the review of the case brought her hope. >> i know she's been so much happier just in the past week knowing that people really believe her and are supporting her. >> reporter: daisy said she was r ready to move forward in the new case. >> are you feeling now better about yourself? more ready to fight this? are you ready to testify and are you ready for what this will mean? >> i have developed a lot thicker of a skin, so i do believe i am ready. >> reporter: that was last fall. last week friends posted these gruesome images on a facebook page saying they came from the second young victim. someone broke into her parent's car and left behind mutilated rabbits. page has said her recovery has been a struggle. >> i had started having a lot of

night terrors, nightmares. >> reporter: the special prosecutor says a final report in the girl's case is nearly done. daisy coleman's mother hope it is it will bring the family justice and that her daughter will survive to hear it. >> still to come, a shocking story out of north carolina. just 70 seconds after a police officer arrived on the scene a teen was shot and killed. plus dennis rodman explodes during an interview with cnn. what did chris cuomo ask the former nba star that made him say this. >> no, no, no, i'm saying to you, look at these guys. look at them. ♪ ♪

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grab your popcorn because this is an unbelievable one. dennis rodman currently on his fourth visit to north korea angrily defending his trip in an interview with chris cuomo. rodman and five others will play in an exhibition game for kim jong-un's birthday. a trip that the nba and u.s. department have openly denounced. here is part of rodman's interview on cnn's "new day requests. >> no one ever asked anyone in the world why we have olympics and we have struggles around the world. but when the olympics are around, there's no problems. it's all about the game.

people who love to do one thing, sports. >> dennis, i agree. >> this is what we are trying to do. >> i agree. sports are powerful. the olympics are powerful. the men that you have around you are great ambassador for the game and for the country they represent, but you also know you don't go and celebrate countries that are offensive to human rights. they get excluded from the olympics. >> you can continue to talk about the different activities that take place here. we have activities that take -- there are activities that take place all over the world. we are using basketball as a bridge for cultural exchange. and that's all about communication. we're not here to deal with the politics. >> dennis, let me end on this. you do have a relationship with this man. you said it many times. we have seen it it demonstrated for whatever reason. are you going to take an opportunity to speak up for the family of kenneth bay and to say

let us know why this man is being held, that this is wrong, that he is sick. if you can help, dennis, will you take the opportunity? >> the one thing about politics, if you understand what kenny bay did, do you understand what he did? >> what did he do? you tell me. >> you tell me why is he held captive? >> they haven't released any charges. >> let me do this. i would love to speak on this. >> go ahead. >> you have ten days here, ten guys here that have left their families, left their families to help had this country in a sports venture.

all these guys here. does anyone understand that? >> we do. and we appreciate that and we wish them well. >> look at these guys. look at them. >> don't put it on them. deent use them as an excuse for the behavior you're putting on yourself. >> they came here. >> you just basically were saying kenneth bay did something wrong. we don't know what the charges are. don't use these guys as a shield. >> listen. >> ain't no shield. let me do this. people around the world, around the world i'm going to do one thing. you hide behind a microphone right now. we are the guys here doing the thing. we have to go back to america and take the abuse. do you have to take the abuse

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welcome back to the second half of "out front." introducing new mental health legislation. trying to prevent tragedies like the one he experienced seven weeks ago when he was stabbed by his own son who later killed himself. the night before his son was evaluated by mental health professionals but no bed was available and couldn't be held under emergency custody for more than six hours o. so he was released. legislation would create a psychiatric e bed registry and expand time frames for holding the mentally ill. former miss venezuela and her estranged husband were shot dead in what appears to be a highway robbery in central venezuela. their car broke down and were on the side of the road when they were attacked by armed robbers. their 5-year-old daughter was shot in the leg and survived the attack. officials tell cnn they have five people who are being

interrogated and she was crowned miss venezuela in 20 04 and lived in miami. a disappointment for lindsey vonn. 31 days before the winter olympics the defending downhill skiing champion announced on facebook she will not compete. she seemed to be making a comeback after having acl surgery on her right knee a year ago, but she aggravate d the injury back in november. von says the "reality has sunk in that my knee is just too unstable to compete at this level" and she is devastate d. she'll have surgery soon to prep for a run at the championships in vail. a narrow but significant victory for democrats many washington in a political fight they hope will set the tone for this year. but the showdown over extending long-term unemployment benefits to 1.3 million americans is far from over.

brianna keilar is at the white house for you. >> reporter:. president obama pressured congress to extend long-term unemployment benefits for 1.3 million americans. >> this is not an abstraction, these are not statistics. these are your neighbors, your friends, your family members. it could at some point be any of us. >> reporter: from the east room of the white house with the background of unemployed americans, obama rejected the republican argument that unemployment benefits take away motivation to work. >> i can't name a time when i met an american who would rather have an unemployment check than the pride of having a job. >> on this vote the yes are 60. >> the senate voted to take up a bill that would restart the long-term benefits, which expired at the new year. six republicans joined 52 democrats and 2 independents. in the house where republicans are in the majority, they are demanding the 6.4 billion cost be paid for offset with cuts to

other government. programs. democrats in the white house oppose offsets and republicans say it's all about politics in a midterm election year. >> i have to admit i'm a little surprised at the fur ver with which they are extending after they ignored the issue all of last year. >> why not try to find the middle ground that has been found before. >> on a relatively rare number of occasions, what i would say is that the ideological fight is to be around horse trading over what are emergency benefits for families in need. >> i am unemployed. >> reporter: katherine wrote to the president last month after she was laid in in july from her job as a nursing home administrator. >> i was blind side. >> reporter: next month she's scheduled to shift to long-term unemployment and if congress fails to act, she will lose the

weekly check that is keeping her afloat float as she searches for a job. >> i'm spending $42 a week on food which isn't a lot, but i'm also keeping my house at 58 degrees and wearing a hat and coat just because oil is really expensive. i don't buy anything. >> reporter: katherine made a compelling case for unemployment benefits here today all the the white house. we should tell you for the first time today harry reid, the top democrat in the senate, is indicating that he may be open to offsetting the costs, which is a demand of house republicans. he said, and this would be a shift, he said that while he's personally opposed to an offset if republicans come to him with a plan, he will take it to senate democrats for a look. >> thank you very much. brianna keilar for us at the white house. justified force or murder. tonight the parents of a north carolina teen demanding answers after a police officer tased,

shot and killed their son right in front of them. the family called for help after the 18-year-old had been behaving erratically but 70 seconds after the officer arrived, the teen was dead. david mattingly has the story. >> reporter: he was a skinny and obviously talented teen when he pounded out hard rock rhythms on his drum set. but family members say the 18-year-old also struggled with schizophrenia and sunday he became too much for his parents to handle alone. >>. could you send an officer over here? we have a son that has schizophrenia and he's not doing very good. we've got to get him someplace. >> reporter: that was his stepfather calling 911. he told the dispatcher this had happened before and all they wanted was help getting him to treatment. >> he wants to fight his mother. he's got a screwdriver. he's not doing good. he's scared to death of him.

>> reporter:. two officers from two different departments responded and family members say everything seemed under control. officers calmly talked with their son. he wasn't violent. that's when a third officer showed up and ordered him to shoot him with stun guns. seconds later that same officer shot and killed him. >> they murdered our son for no reason. >> reporter: a family friend shared details with cnn i report describing how the teen fell when he was stunned. how two officers then jumped on top of him and while they held him down, the third officer who ordered the stun guns shot him in the chest and killed him. >> you see this kid? this is my son. this is my flesh and blood that they murdered. >> reporter: the teen's family and friends angrily demand action against the officer. the district attorney promises

to go wherever the truth leads. >> this was uncalled for. and this is not how mental health patients should be treated. >> reporter: he's described as a very passionate kid who loved music and basketball more than anything on this earth. his performances on youtube and smiling self-ys all just memories now of a life abruptly ended. >> david mattingly joins us now. what's the status on the three officers involved in this innocent? >> these officers came from different departments. two from local police departments. so far the deputy and one of the police officers have been cleared of not violating any sort of procedure or law by their respective departments. one other officer has been placed on administrative leave and his attorney is saying that once the state has finished with its investigation, then everyone will find out that all of these officers were acting appropriately. >> david, thank you. still to come, the money and power behind one of tv's most

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viewers the video is still disturbing. casey wian is out front with this story. >> reporter: this child is 2 or 3 years old and saying profane words with at least three adults. they seem irritated over a fallen chair. >> you a [ bleep ]. >> stop. >> you throwing a fit right now. [ bleep ] you. >> the child flips his middle finger at the camera. the toddler whose face was shown in the original video exchanges at least 35 swear words with the adults in the 1 minute 23 second video. >> that's why you can't fight. >> they discuss sexual matters, even apparent gang affiliations.

>> so what hood you from blood? >> what hood you from? say my name three times [ bleep ]. >> you a [ bleep ]. >> the video was posted on the website of the omaha, nebraska, police officers association who says we have an obligation to share it to continue to educate the law-abiding public about the terrible cycle of violence and thug ri that some innocent children find themselves trapped in. >> when you see a child being treated like this who can't defend themselves, unfortunately it's something that as police officers we see all too common. >> reporter: commenters on the website objected to what some saw as racial overtones in posting the video. >> this behavior is going to lead this child down a pott

that's completely unhealthy. >> reporter: omaha's chief of police released a statement saying the department has no control over the content of the police union's website. and the chief strongly disagrees with any postings that may cause a divide in our community. casey wian, cnn, los angeles. >> joining me now is mark hill and talk radio host mel robins. she's also a former public defender. i can barely watch that. it's unbelievable. >> it's tough to watch. again, no law was probably broken in that video, but it almost looks like child abuse. >> listen, they said this is an example of the thug cycle in omaha that kids are trapped in. what do you say? >> first of all, that's clearly an awful thing that just happened. it's bad parent. ing, it's bad uncling, whoever was on that video. i'm not sure that i like the way it's framed. and i don't want to see that

video posted on the internet because it sends the wrong message about young, black boys. we all agree that's an awful thing that happened, but i'm not sure that posting it it is the right thing to do. >> they could have blurred the kid's identity. you don't like they called it it thug culture. >>. no. >> i want you to say i'm thuggen in my diaper. >> i think the way they say thug culture is a racial overtone. it prepares the public to imagine this young boy -- >> can i jump in? >> someone who isn't even ready for elementary school, to frame him as a thug is dangerous and just as irresponsible. not defending the behavior on the video, but the way they are responding to it, not okay. >> kbd, mel. >> i'm glad, first of all, that we all agree this is deplorable. i think the point that the police are trying to make is that unfortunately this is something that they see a fair

amount of. here's the thing that i think everybody is missing that's important about this story. it's not the police that originally posted this. the relatives of this kid took the video. the relative who calls this kid his nephew posted it because he thought it was great. it wasn't until the police then repost something that was already out in the public that everybody gets up in arms. i want to remind everybody this kid was called the "n" word more than ten times in 84 seconds. that's abuse. i wish they could find a law to arrest these people. to me when i hear the word thug, particularly as a former criminal defense attorney, the word thug means a violent assassin and those come in all shapes and sizes. they come in latino gangs, they come in irish gangs, they come in italian gangs. what the police are dealing with here is not a color problem, it

is a violence problem. >> it's also a culture of violence. i don't mean just among african-america african-americans. it happens among many races. this particular case it happens to be black. they are glorifying thug culture saying thug in your diaper. >> it's disgusting. and again, when the uncle posted it it, i found that disturbing too. but it it takes a whole new life when the state does it. >> standby. let's look a little more at this video. >> stop. you throwing a fit right now? [ bleep ]. >> you talking that [ bleep ] now. [ bleep ] you too. >> that's why you can't fight. >> you a [ bleep ]. >> i checked with a clinical psychologist about this.

here's what he says. the child's mind is being destroyed by adults in this video and they have exploited him by posting it it online. they are saying both sides are at fault here. but you do point out that the relatives posted it or psychological abuse, even though police didn't think anything was happening here. as a former prosecutor, what do you make of it? >> don, here's the thing. garbage in, garbage out. and i agree 100% with jeff. the truth is that everybody watching at home who's sick to their stomach right now and who feels for this poor child that's growing up in an environment where the adults around them are acting in a way that's abusive, the thing that i say to myself is that we have an obligation, i believe as a society, to put politics and political correctness aside and do the right thing on behalf of the kids. >> i don't think it's the right thing, though. my concern is putting the image

on the face of a toddler across the world on the screen. it's irresponsible. >> the uncle already did it. >> but why are we defending -- we've already agreed that the uncle was irresponsible and abuse sniff why would we expect the police to commit the same behavior? >> the great thing is maybe somebody will help with the kid. >> exactly. >> i think we should focus in this in a different way. that's what we do as journalists. i think that's what the police are trying to do if the video is out there is to bring light to something that is happening. if you could help this one little boy, just this one little boy, what is wrong with putting a video up that's already out there? >> it's not helping the but boy. >> for any race. >> it overstates the problem first of all. yes, there's a violence problem in omaha and around the country. >> you don't think that overstates? similar things like that happen in many homes? >> i don't think this is normal. i don't think the average family -- >> not the average family. >> even the average person

surrounded by violence. [ overlapping speakers ] >> what is the down side of this video being out in the public and having people concerned about this child and having people wake up to the fact that when you speak to a child in such an abusive manner, it's going to have a negative impact. >> do you think this is a common occurrence even in places where there's high levels of violence? >> yes, i do. i hear people talking to their children like that all the time. >> like that? really? >> yes. >> yes. >> you think people walk around to kid in diapers -- >> i happy people talking to their kids like that all the time calling them n words. i walk the streets of new york city. i hear that all the time. >> i find that hard to believe. yes, people use foul language and the n word. what we saw in that video was a whole other level. that's not normal. the problem is we live in a world where little black boys are already seen as violent. already seen as dangerous. >> it's not about little black boys. it's about all kids. [ overlapping speakers ]

>> this happens in all parts of society. all cultures. >> how come the example is always black, don? >> the example is not always black. you're trying to say that this kid -- >> i'm saying the kid is black. and this is dangerous to call a toddler a thug in training which is essentially what they've done. that's what i'm saying the problem is. yes, what happened on the video is a problem. we all agree on that. >> the family called him a thug in training. they're saying say i'm thugging in my diapers. that's what his family is saying. >> police say the thug cycle continues. >> they're calling him exactly what the family is calling him. >> how can you say he's going to be a thug? he's this big. >> we aren't saying that. the family is saying that. >> mark, use your common sense for crying out loud. >> i'm using common sense. not as condescending as you are. >> go ahead. >> what's going to happen to this kid two years from now when you roll him into kindergarten and all he's been is around adults that are dropping the n word, teaching him to flip off, talking about sexual actions with him. so now all of a sudden the

kindergarten teacher is going to have to figure out how to socialize him in a way that's respectable? that's not fair. it's not fair to this kid. >> you're disputing an argument i'm not making. i'm not saying this kidneys a good situation. we all agree he's not. one, this is not the norm. >> what's wrong with putting the video out there? what's wrong with it? >> you don't see anything irresponsible about putting the face of a toddler on the internet and calling him in the cycle of thuggery? come on. it's irresponsible, it's dangerous. >> i don't. >> even the police department doesn't stand behind it. >> it's irresponsible for the family first of all for the actions to have happened, for the family to have done it, for the family to have put the kid in that position. >> agreed. >> that's irresponsible. if the family had not put it out there it may be different. i may feel differently about the police putting it out there. i do feel once the police put it out there again, they could have covered the kid's face. they did not have to identify and show the child there. but still, i don't see anything wrong with this. i think this video and other videos like it, regardless of the kid's race, that should be

brought to light. that's what we do. we're supposed to be helping kids as adults, not teaching them to go into a cycle of whatever you want to call >> it helping this kid is a good idea. from what we understand they've contacted child protective services to see if this child in particular can be helped. i think that's awesome. but to put essentially an anonymous kid out there, not the public is going to save this kid. are going to see him and other small black boys like thugs. that's what i'm worried about. >> i think it's a very powerful and eye-opening example of just how profound of an impact the adults that are raising a kid can have. and i think that that is a very positive thing in fact, it does the opposite, mark, in some regards. that maybe instead of looking at young black men as thugs, maybe

some people will say, whether it's a thug that's of one color or a different color or this color, they'll say shoot, maybe -- >> and i want to reiterate. this just happens to be one of a little black kid. but you have not seen white families or hispanic families or talking to kids like that? get your you know what out of here? didn't i tell you to shut your damn mouth you little a hole? >> that's different than what we see here. kid being prepared for gang life. >> it's the same sort of behavior. it's the same sort of behavior. that's all i'm saying. doesn't matter the color or race of the kid. >> i don't see a white kid in something like that. >> thanks a lot. we'll be right back.

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