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one thing everybody needs, money and advice. i have just the man for that, dave ramsey, who will be here answering your questions about retirement and how you can avoid money mistakes. it's dave ramsey, live here tomorrow night. that is all for us. good evening, everyone. tonight new up close video of that san francisco plane crash reveals that first responders didn't give a survivor a second thought until her tragic accidental and totally avoidable death. that's actually her on the ground. we're keeping them honest tonight. also tonight the woman who says she had an earlier run in with a movie theater killer over texting during the film and our legal team on the killer's claim that he acted in self-defense. and later, whether you get it by prescription or over the counter, new recommendations about painkillers containing acetaminophen. the information could save you from potentially deadly complications. we begin tonight with a unique window into the fiery moments after an airliner went down. unless you've lived through it or do rescue work for a living
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you'll never get any closer than this thank goodness. the images you're about to see were taken immediately after the asiana flight 214 crashed on approach to the san francisco international airport catch captured by a first responder's helmet cam. they though a young woman who survived the crash but did not survive the rescue. drew griffin tonight is keeping them honest. >> reporter: it was a dramatic crash caught on tape. a tumbling asiana airline boeing 777 crashing at san francisco's international airport last july. >> oh, my god! but it would be this video emerging only now, months after the crash, that is becoming the most disturbing of all. >> whoa whoa whoa stop stop stop. there's a body right -- there's a body right there. right in front of you. >> reporter: a body right in front of airport rescue truck number 10. this body.
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and according to the san francisco medical examiner, it was in fact a living body. ignored by firefighters who failed to check. 16-year-old ye mung yun had somehow escaped her seat in row 41 of the aircraft, apparently walked or was carried from this escape slide and came to rest here, lying in this fetal position, but alive. and as you can see in this emergency vehicle camera, firefighters walk around her, pass by her, even directed a fire truck past her and not a single firefighter checking her pulse or even seeing if she was breathing. >> it's unthinkable. it's unimaginable. because the first thing that -- the first priority of the firefighters or any rescue personnel is saving lives. and the first step in triage is to take the pulse, check the respiration. that was never done. and the video, which i think is the best evidence of what
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happened, shows at least five firefighters who saw her, who understood she was there, and none of them did the basic step of checking if she was alive. >> reporter: attorney justin green who represents the ye family has filed a claim against the city of san francisco based on reports from the fire department, the city and the ntsb. but mostly based on this video evidence. according to the claim, rescuers breached their duty of care to ye meng yuan and were grossly negligent. the video is from a firefighting truck that pulled up to the scene moments after the crash. there doesn't appear to be any chaos or confusion. at one point a firefighter leaves the vehicle to help guide the truck around ye's body. >> this is a firefighter with his hand out. >> right. >> this is her. >> that's right. >> he's saying, there's a body there. >> reporter: a warning made all the more clear in a helmet camera on one of the firefighters.
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>> there's a body right there. right in front of you. >> reporter: according to the claim, firefighters notify a lieutenant but are told to move on. in the video that is just what truck number ten does. as fuel leaks from the left wing unit ten sprays foam on the ground. minutes later as smoke begins to emerge from the fuselage, unit ten circles to move into position, apparently ignoring or forgetting the body on the ground. at this moment, right here, the fire truck rolls over ye mung yuan's head and she is killed. >> the tire of the truck went right over her head. >> it would only get worse. the complaint alleges a firefighter arriving late to the scene jumped in another rescue vehicle, number 37. a rescue vehicle not equipped with any infrared device to identify living bodies, and without any spotter maneuvered into the area where she was located and again rolls over her body. >> that's right. >> she's run over twice!
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>> she's run over twice by two different trucks. >> i can't imagine what the parents think. >> well, the parents, i mean, part of what you have to understand, too, is in china they're really only supposed to have one child. this was the family's only child. a girl who was a star student, who was the focus of their lives. everything that they did was poured into this girl and her future. and that was taken away because of some terrible mistakes and inaction by the firefighter. >> yes mung yuan was coming to the u.s. for summer camp, describing as outstanding student, musician and class leader who dreamed of becoming a television newscaster. >> i particularly want to express our condolences and apologies to the family of ye mung yuan. >> the fire chief apologized
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profusely. the explanation then was of a chaotic rescue scene and foam covering ye's body. the video now being released shows a much different picture. and the city of san francisco and its fire department have now declined comment, citing pending litigation. the ye family remains in china, waiting to go find out what if anything can explain why their daughter is dead. >> that's just horrible. drew griffin joins us now. two other young people died, chinese students. they weren't run over, though. >> no. there was rumors that that did happen early on. but no, one of ye's friends, 16 years old, was ejected. that is what killed her. another student from china, head injuries during the crash and died a few days later in the hospital. >> in terms of the fire department, they're just apologetic. they just say -- >> they were apologetic when the report came out. and this was early on that the truck ran over and killed ye. they have not responded at all since this claim was filed.
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this claim is the precursor to a lawsuit. >> they want more than money, right? >> well, this is a claim that's going to lead to either a monetary settlement or lawsuit. they are seeking money. but they also want to send out a warning which sounds so basic. check the body. don't just look at a body at a rescue scene. don't just look at a body at a crash scene. check it. hold it. check the pulse. it seems so rudimentary but it didn't happen here, anderson. >> drew griffin, appreciate the update. digging deep where legal analyst jeffrey toobin, mark geragos criminal defense attorney. jeff, obviously even those video doesn't look very chaotic it is a chaotic scene. what do you make of this? i mean, i give a lot of leeway always to firefighters and first responders. it's difficult. they are usually very well trained. is it possible they were more concerned about other people on
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the flight that there were mass casualties? >> absolutely. look, no one can doubt the horrible pain that this family is going through. and i don't want to minimize that at all. but let's remember how this story is coming out. it's coming out from personal injury lawyers who want to extract a great deal of money from the taxpayers of san francisco. and this is a complicated situation where the chronology is very important. and we're not talking about a traffic accident where there is one body on the floor, and the firefighters should check that. we're looking at a situation where firefighters are potentially looking at hundreds of casualties and are trying to deal with that. so this is a tragedy. whether it is a lawsuit that's deserving many millions of dollars, i think is a very different question. >> mark, how hard is it in this case to sue a city for this kind of an incident? >> look, it's not going to be particularly difficult. and i will tell you why.
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this is -- there is a good samaritan or a rule in the statute here in the health and safety code that gives immunity to firefighters or first responders when they are in the course of what they're doing. however, the exception, and you saw it in that claim, it's what's called a 910 claim, when they are grossly negligent that immunity washes away. this couldn't be a more textbook case of grossly negligent. and i take exception, surprisingly, with jeff. this isn't a personal injury lawyer trying to extract millions, this is we're watching unless jeff's saying that this video was photoshopped by somebody, this is a video in real time of people who were grossly negligent in not checking to see if she had a pulse, number one, and number two, not having her run over. so i mean, that's the definition
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of gross negligent. look, i love firefighters. my office is in an historic fire engine place. i've got nothing but love for firefighters. but this is the definition of gross negligence. >> jeff, do you see it that way? >> no, i don't. look, for example, the chronology is important here. and you know, because we're dealing with television here we have a limited amount of time. i would want to see how all of those tapes go together. first the foam is not on the ground, then it's on the ground. look, i don't think it is anything but tragic that this child died. but let's remember who killed this child. it's the incompetent pilots at asiana who couldn't land on a clear day. that's who's responsible here. [ overlapping speakers ] >> and in fact -- >> but jeff -- wait, the investigation subsequently of this crash showed that cultural differences
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and cultural issues within the cockpit that the pilot was concerned about glare off the runway, but didn't want to wear sunglasses because he thought it would be offensive to his other fellow pilots, and didn't want to express his concern about landing because he thought that would be bad and embarrassing in front of the instructor in the cockpit. i mean, those things i find stunning. the first responders, responding to an emergency situation and overlooking someone, you think that's worse than the pilots? mark? >> do i think it's worse than the pilot? >> yeah. do you think that should be the focus of the lawsuit? >> no. the lawsuit -- tell me what's going to happen as a practical matter. the 910 claim which was filed will be denied. that means that you can then file the lawsuit. the lawsuit will be filed against asiana and it will be filed against the city of san francisco and probably a couple of other entities. they're going to settle this case. this case will never go to trial. and they will fight it out amongst themselves, the insurance company for the
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airline and the municipality. and i think san francisco is self-insured. and this case will get settled, and the way that all civil cases get settled, it is a fight about money. unfortunately, that's how you get justice in a case like this. in the civil justice system it's a fight about money. >> i certainly agree with that. this is very likely to be settled. but to create this image of the firefighters as incompetent villains here based on a tape that's been edited as i understand it by the plaintiff's lawyers here, i mean, i think it's important to reserve judgment. and for mark to say this is obviously gross negligence, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. but i'm not convinced by what i've seen here. >> jeff, if you've got a body on the ground and people standing there and a truck runs over the head of the woman, killing her, i don't know, jeff, how more basic 101 torts 101 you can get. that's the definition of gross negligence. >> i'm told by the way that the san francisco police department
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just released the same video -- excuse me, fire department just released the same video. so whether or not -- we don't know for sure that the attorney is the one who was editing this. >> fair enough. >> jeff, mark geragos, appreciate your perspective as always. you can see more on the crash story and more on the video by going to cnn.com. you can let us know what you think @andersoncooper. tweet us using #ac360. up next, the movie theater killer's self-defense claim and how it might stand up in court. will it stand up in court? later, are we being too quick to write chris christie' political obituary? a lot of pundits were saying he was done. new polling reveals what those polled think. and about the bridge scandal and how he would do in a political contest with hillary clinton. , and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant
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part of being human is putting yourself in someone else's shoes. seeing someone's story and thinking that might have been me. there's empathy and there's what
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one florida couple experienced when they heard about what curtis reeves felt on monday. when they heard he had shot and killed a man and wounded his wife over a movie confrontation. they thought it might have been them. they say they had a prior run in with reeves also at the movies also over texting. jamira dixon told a local affiliate what happened when she heard about the shooting. >> i had to pull over the car. because it could have been us. he gets up. he's like, can you do me a favor? can you please just stop texting? it was just so close to home. it really makes you think how things could have went. >> sadly, another confrontation with curtis reeves would be fatal for chad olson. and would send him and his wife, nicole, to the hospital.
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martin savidge joins us with the latest. you learned what the dixons have talked about to authorities. what can you tell us? >> reporter: they spent about an hour talking to authorities and recounting what you've just sort of played there, that jamira dixon and her husband michael and four children were at a movie on the 28th of december. and that's when they noticed reeves, curtis reeves. it stands out really in her mind. because he was so bothered, he was so distracted, he was so upset apparently by her texting, but she said by other things, noises in the theater, the chairs, kids kicking the backs of seats, the things that happen in movie theaters. so he really stands out in her mind. so when she saw his photo eventually she said she was sick to her stomach because she knew that man, she remembered that man. then she was in fear he might have had a gun then. as you point out what could have happened. this has disturbed the neighborhood, too. it sets up the what if. what if somebody else had notice
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-- what if she had reported it to management, her discomfort, in all of this. could it have been prevented? it's the terrible things that add to the dimension of the tragedy. >> in terms of what happened inside that theater, do we know for sure did this former police officer go up and get the manager and then come back and that's when the shooting occurred? >> reporter: well, that is sort of some of the conjecture that came out in the early moments of this investigation. and by what witnesses said inside. it's a matinee. midday in the afternoon. 25 people inside that theater. we realized that olson and reeves having this altercation apparently over olson texting to the baby-sitter about his daughter. at one point we know that reeves gets up and leaves the theater. many thought he went to go see the manager. he did go see the manager. the manager was with somebody else. reeves never got to complain. reeves never got to tell manager. he comes back to the theater. that's why witnesses say he appeared more agitated than when he left. maybe because he was not able to resolve it with the management. we know how it escalated and
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turned to gun fire. >> this was during the previews. the movie hadn't begun yet. a lot of people are using cell phones during previews. all right, martin, appreciate the update. equal justice tonight let's talk about curtis reeves claim he killed this man and wounded his wife in self-defense. whether that's a legally viable courtroom strategy. if not is there any viable defense for this kind of a shooting? fortunately two top notch barristers with us. mark, would you go for a stand your ground defense? >> well, you really have to note facts. i know you had that package at the beginning of this and you have somebody who says oh, he did it to me before. having been in cases where there's publicity and people come out of the woodwork saying, oh, this happened to me and everything else, first thing you're going to do is try and
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determine is that a true and accurate rendition of what really happened. then before you do stand your ground or anything else, you have to just do a parallel investigation and determine what actually happened. i mean, we don't know. we know what's been reported so far. notoriously this is stuff that is leaked by law enforcement to kind of buttress their case. until we get an idea of what actually happened and the defense lawyer mounts a defense, i think it's somewhat premature to start saying he was doing it over texting or anything else. i mean, just at first blush it sounds too crazy. and usually when it sounds too crazy it's because it is. >> sonny, all good points that mark makes about being wary about the initial reporting on these kinds of things. on an incident like this often it's wrong. there are initial reports that a bag of popcorn was thrown and that's what precipitated the shooting. >> yeah. mark sort of is that quintessential defense attorney that's saying, we don't really know what happened. i think we know what happened. we have one incident where someone where he yells at someone about texting. then we have another incident where he shoots someone after texting. and i bet my bottom dollar that mark geragos, you would use the
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stand your ground defense in this case. this is florida, after all. this is zimmerman land. and i suspect they are going to use the stand your ground case. because they're going to argue that this 71-year-old was in fear of imminent danger, great bodily injury or death because he's got sort of this young athletic guy attack him. that's what's going to happen him. and it just goes to show you what the law is in florida. >> mark let me ask you. [ overlapping speakers ] >> i want to make sure that sonny doesn't bet her bottom dollar. because you'll remember, anderson, sonny was going to bet the house that george zimmerman was going to be convicted. so her betting skills leave a little to be desired. >> if you're in a theater in florida and somebody throws a bag of popcorn at you can you argue that you were in fear of your life, that you have a justifiable reason to shoot somebody, if you say you didn't know it was pop corn, just an
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object that was thrown? >> no. and the idea that somebody -- some defense lawyer is going to base a defense on that is ludicrous. but i will tell you, i will tell you that generally my experience, having seen these cases over 30 years, what first gets reported and what first gets leaked is always by law enforcement. and in virtually 90% of the cases it's not actually what happened. >> there were witnesses. there were witnesses. >> i just reserve judgment before we start saying this is some guy who goes to the theater with his gun and somebody throws popcorn on him or they text and he decides to shoot him. >> that's exactly what happened. >> i find that -- i'm a little skeptical about that. >> we do know that the alleged shooter is a former police captain. how do you think that plays, sonny, in a case like this? >> i think it could cut both ways. think if you're the prosecution you're going to argue this is not a stand your ground defense because this is someone trained in assessing a threat. and so for him to argue that he
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was feeling threatened by the bag of popcorn doesn't make any sense. he's being disingenuous. but, on the other hand, a defense attorney like mark geragos is going to say yes, he is trained in threat assessment and assessed this as threat owning. we don't know what really happened because we weren't really there and we should trust the judgment of the 70-year-old former law enforcement officer. i bet my bottom dollar again, mark geragos, if that's one of the arguments we're going to hear. because we already heard it at bond hearing. >> sonny, save the tape because i'm going to bet you right now that they not going to base their defense in front of a jury that he thought he was being assaulted by popcorn. it's ludicrous. >> he thought he was being attacked. >> unless he's got a death wish. not by a bag of popcorn. >> he said he didn't know what it was. >> if he said he was being attacked it was because it was not the bag of popcorn. because no lawyer,
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self-respecting lawyer is going to make that argument. >> i'll take that bet. >> all right. we'll leave it there. sonny hostin, mark geragos, you can wager, settle your wager afterward. don't want to encourage betting on the air. earlier tonight we spoke it -- to a close family friend of the shooting victims, chad and nicole olson. he set up a fund on facebook, chad olson family fund. we're going to put that on the bottom of the screen and our web site, ac360.com to help raise money for the family and their daughter. you can find more at ac360.com. up next tonight despite predictions that his political career is over by a lot of tv pundits, new jersey governor chris christie may be surviving the george washington bridge scandal after all. we'll take a look at the newest polls. new developments in the case of madeline mccann, the little british girl who disappeared nearly seven years ago while on vacation with her family in portugal. it's time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. hmm? [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more symptoms
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>> a special committee created by new jersey state assembly to investigate the george washington bridge scandal has been subpoenaed. and the first subpoenas are in the works the top aide bridget ann kelly fired by christie last week after documents appeared to show she and others ordered the closing of access lanes to the bridge in september allegedly because the democratic mayor of fort lee, new jersey refused to endorse christie for re-election. the lane closings caused massive traffic tieups for four days. kelly has apparently gone into hiding. but investigators no doubt want to know everything she knows, clearly, whether or not chris christie knows about the scheme. so far polls indicate he's surviving the scandal right well. a nbc news marist poll shows
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that 68% of those surveyed nation-wide say their opinion of christie has not changed. 46% saying he's mostly telling the truth compared to 32% who say he's not. a quinnipiac university poll in new jersey voters show that 40% think christie is a bully, 54% think he's a leader. those approval rating in the state has dropped. raw politics from chief national correspondent john king. >> so john, looking at these polls seems like people are giving governor christie the benefit of the doubt in the bridge controversy. >> reporter: he just won a landslide re-election less than two months ago. remember that. so the people of new jersey like him. most of them trust him. even some people who didn't vote for him view him as a straight shooter. let's be clear. we can also find some chinks in the armor. governor christie has not had a trap door underneath him but special prosecutor just named today, subpoenas to be issued tomorrow. we're still in the early chapter here. >> his approval ratings have taken a bit of a fall, but
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they're still fairly high as far as approval ratings go. >> reporter: you're talking to a reporter who works in washington. the president's numbers are in the 40s. it's hard when you ask people if they approve of the job congress is doing sometimes in the single digits or low teens. when it comes to looking nationally the way people view politicians right now christie still looks relatively strong. again, though, one of the caveats, those state democrats who after the election were in sort of a kiss the ring mood, are now more emboldened to challenge the governor. we'll see if this lasts. >> this latest nbc marist poll outed to today shows he's lost some ground in hypothetical race against hillary clinton. now he's down 13 points. it's so far away from the election does it even matter? >> reporter: in some ways it's silly season to lock at the polls now and try to project to what the american people will want when they next pick a
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president in 2016. however, it does add into what i'll call the pause that effects governor christie right now. there's nobody running from governor christie. any fundraiser, activist in the country who is inclined to support governor christie, we see no evidence in ohio, new hampshire, south carolina, nationally in washington among fundraisers or people running away. some said they're going to take a step back, wait to see if another shoe drops. if they start to see polls tied with hillary clinton a couple weeks ago and now behind her that could create the impression he's back on his heels, in some trouble, could make some fundraisers step back a bit. he's trying to raise a lot of money for republicans in 2014 and himself in 2016. there could be a bit of pause, delay. he doesn't want a slew of bad numbers to come out in the next coming months. one of the things he wants to prove, raising a lot of money beginning this week in florida is that he can put all this behind him. >> john, thanks very much. >> thank you. there's a lot more happening tonight. susan hendricks has a 360 bulletin. anderson, the pentagon is studying what is apparently the only video of an
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american currently a prisoner of washington sergeant bob bergdol is believed to be in pakistan held by the taliban. this video was 3 years ago the last time he was seen. a senate report produced today concludes the attack on the diplomatic compound in benghazi was likely preventable. it said the state department should have increased security due to warnings that american personnel were at risk. today the house overwhelmingly approved the $1 trillion compromise spending bill that funds the government through september. it now goes to the senate where it is expected to be passed. apple has agreed to refund millions of dollars to a lot of of angry parents. that's because kids were allowed to make purchases while playing game apps such as tap pet hotel and tiny zoo friends without their parents' consent. the government says apple failed to have protections in place to prevent kids from making those purchases without parental consent. >> susan, thanks. just ahead the new developments in the madeleine
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to a surge of burglaries in the area where her family was staying, including two breaks in just 17 days before she vanished. madeline's parents have never given up hope they'll find her alive. our gary tuchman looks back at the last day they spend together. >> reporter: this is the last place 3-year-old madeleine mccann was seen alive. the ocean club resort in portugal. madeleine and her family on vacation from england spent the afternoon of may 3rd by the hotel pool. this exclusive video is the first we've seen inside the resort grounds. madeleine's mom, kate, says her little girl said it was the best day she had ever had.
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this smiling picture would be the last taken of madeline just hours before she vanished. much of what the police know is still a mystery to us in part because of a portuguese law that makes it illegal to talk about a current investigation. but details of that night have emerged and could hold the key to the case. through various reports, here's what we've learned. around 6:00 that evening, kate and jerry mccann say they took madeleine and their 2-year-old twins back to this apartment. according to police, what happened to madeleine after that last sight is unknown. the mccanns say they put the three kids to bed around 7:30 in a room laid out like this one. close to 8:30, the parents say they left the children alone in the apartment to join a group of friends at a nearby tapas restaurant. >> i think it's quite similar to on a summer's evening at home eating in your garden while the children are in your bed. it's that close. >> reporter: the restaurant is located within the resort. michael and susan cooper rented the unit right next door to where the mccanns stayed. the coolers don't know the
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mccanns but let us out on their balcony to see that the tapas bar is within eyesight of the department. but -- >> if someone was crying inside this apartment would you hear them at the restaurant? >> no. >> reporter: a waiter who served the table that night tells cnn the mccanns and their seven friends were not drinking as heavily as has been reported. but did have some pints of beer, cock tails and a few bottles of wine. at about 9:00, jerry mccann says he got up to check on the children and then returned to the table. sometime after 9:15, one of the dinner guests who was checking on her own daughter said she saw a man walking away from the resort carrying a small child. the mccans say it could have been the kidnapper, but police are questioning the woman's account. at around 9:30 one of the mccanns' friends came back to the apartment to check on the children but apparently just listened at the door. 30 minutes later, kate mccann herself went to see how her children were doing. she went inside the apartment and told police that madeline was gone. the window to the bedroom open. this is what jerry mccann told his sister. he said that madeleine had had had been abducted. they've been checking every half hour on the children. >> the mother returned to the table scream iing that madelein had been taken. >> from that moment police were called very early on. we alerted them almost immediately. >> police arrived and a team of detectives was assembled just
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before midnight, along with resort guests. authorities searched throughout the night. at that point police believe madeleine had been kidnapped. they did not secure the apartment. >> we tried to do a strategic search from the right-hand side of the village across through to the left. >> reporter: but there was no sign of missing madeleine. >> please do not hurt her. please don't scare her. please tell us where to find her. or put her in a place of safety and let somebody know where she is. we beg you to let madeleine come home. >> reporter: rumors have been rampant. facts scarce. those final hours of may 3rd, 2007 remain a mystery, except to the person or persons who harmed madeleine mccann. gary tuchman, cnn, praya deluj, portugal. >> it's impossible to know what these years have been like. ed smart knows. his daughter was kidnaped from her bedroom in the middle of the night in 2002. she was 14.
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nine months later she was rescued and they were reunited. i talked to ed smart earlier about the mccann case. >> ed, these possible new lead -- leads in the case, i can't imagine how hard it must be for the mccanns to have to go through this kind of raising of hopes every couple of years. how does a parent of a missing child deal with something like that? >> well, i think that to have something significant come on, it puts you into this kind of roller coaster mode where you have this great hope that you're going to have something happen. because i believe that the not knowing is worse than anything else. and certainly they've waited a number of years. and so this could be very significant. i think, though, that they're being optimistically just taking it easy and not getting their hopes up too high just because emotionally it's this roller coaster that goes way up and then it can go way down. and so to get your hopes up too high, you try to get to a point where you're not doing that too much.
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>> you've said in the past parents immediately have a feeling that their child is either out there or not. i know you've spoken to the mccanns in the past. they've always thought madeline was still out there somewhere. do you think? is that what keeps them motivated, what keeps people going? >> absolutely. i believe that they still believe madeleine is out there. and you know, trying to keep momentum in the investigation going is something that is very difficult. so keeping whatever awareness tools that you can is so important to them. and to any parent who has a missing child. but i believe that this is something that you get to the point at least in our case, we started getting positive feedback. and it was like there was some light at the end of the tunnel. this is one of those aha moments that i hope for them that it does turn out to be that way. >> you make the point also that the fact that both british and
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portuguese police are so cooperative, that is a positive sign for the parents. their involvement in keeping the case alive is critical. >> it is. for law enforcement agencies to work together, that is absolutely critical. and that's one thing that i believe here in the united states we've improved so much on. so for them, i hope that law enforcement agencies are really working together. because obviously it's critical in finding out whether these burglars have anything to do with this. but it certainly sounds somewhat hopeful to me. >> as a parent, do you ever get to the point where you just want to know one way or the other whether -- i mean, i have heard parent news the past say look, i just want to know. i just want to know whether my child is alive or dead. i just want them to come back
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home one way or the other. >> i think that that is very important. the not knowing, as i said, is the worst thing out there. certainly if you know one way or the other, you can deal with it. in this state of limbo, you're just -- your mind gets going, where's my child? what are they going through? what can i do? what can i do to help find them? and so the not knowing i believe is the worst position a parent finds themselves in. so for the mccanns i hope this is going to be a very positive tip. >> yeah. i think everybody hopes that as well. ed smart, thanks for being with us. >> thank you, anderson. still ahead tonight, a statement from the parents of a 12-year-old boy who injured two students after opening fire at a middle school gym in new mexico. what they have to say coming up. and also warning about a drug that's probably in your medicine cabinet right now. it's in tylenol as well as a lot of other prescription drugs you probably don't even know about.
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welcome back. the fda raised a big rad flag today. it is asking doctors to stop prescribing drugs that have more than 325 milligrams per dose of acetaminophen. it's one of the ingredients in powerful prescription painkillers like percoset and vicodin. but it is probably in other over-the-counter drugs that you don't even realize. the question we want to know is how much is safe to take and what's the best way to avoid trouble. chief medical correspondence dr. sanjay gupta joins me. sanjay, this fda recommendation, break it down for us. >> well, this is a message really for prescribers out
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there, doctors who are prescribing medications that may contain acetaminophen. people know of that as the active ingredient in tylenol. but it's in lots of other medications as well, including prescription medications. what they're saying is you should no longer prescribe, obviously patients shouldn't take but no longer prescribe medications that have more than 325 milligrams. of acetaminophen in it. this is something they have been talking about for a couple of years back in 2011. they said manufacturers stop making acetaminophen that has more than 325 milligrams in it. many manufacturers complied but not all of them. now they're going to the prescribers themselves and saying stop prescribing it. we don't think it offers any additional benefit and it could potentially cause some harm. >> how much is in like a tylenol? how much is in other products that people might be taking? do you know? >> well, there's regular strength, there's extra strength tylenol. and again, keep in mind we're talk about prescription medications. but for over-the-counter tylenol
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could be 250 milligrams, 500. some even are a full gram of tylenol. the magic number i will tell you they say if you're taking over 4 grams of acetaminophen in a day, that could just be a few extra strength tylenols, they say that's too much. that could potentially cause problems, serious problems with your liver, causing the liver to actually start to fail and requiring more drastic medical measures. >> i mean, a lot of people though take products with acetaminophen without even thinking there might be consequences after a night of drinking to prevent a hangover. is that something bad or somebody who has a shoulder -- i just had shoulder surgery and i've been taking one or two a day just to kind of deal with the pain. is that bad? >> so here's what i would say. first of all, with regard to drinking, i think it's a bad idea to take acetaminophen if you've been drinking to try and prevent a hangover. that's a bad idea. people can write that one down. these both alcohol and acetaminophen are both going to actually do a little bit of an insult to your liver. you just don't need that.
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other things you need to take for a headache or something there are other options. the other important point is, there are lots of different medications out there. cold medications, different medications that, you don't think about as having acetaminophen in it. you may not read the ingredients. if you start taking the different medications all of a sudden you're upping the amount of acetaminophen you're getting in a given day. if you're taking it for a sore shoulder or something like that, you could take it probably for a few days but you don't need more than 325 milligrams in any given time. that's sort of the key that the fda is saying. >> all right. sanjay, i appreciate the clarification. thanks. >> you got it. thank you. let's get the latest on the stories. some other stories we're following, susan hendricks is here with a 360 bulletin. >> anderson, police in roswell, new mexico say the 12-year-old boy who opened fire inside of a middle school gym had a 20 gauge pump shotgun which he sawed off himself and three shells. a law enforcement source tells cnn's reporter the shooter had
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handwritten journal at home describing, quote, what he was planning what he wanted to do. the shooting yesterday left two students injured. now in a statement the 12-year-old shooter's parents and grandparents say their prayers are with the injured students and their whole family is heart broken. in texas, a tarrant county judge will hear the case of the brain-dead pregnant woman kept on life support. the husband of marlis munos has filed a motion asking the court to force the hospital to take her off a ventilator and respirator. he says his wife would not want deputies in los angeles have seized hard drives holding security video from justin bieber's mansion. detectives are now looking at the video to see who threw eggs at the house next door causing $20,000 in damage. justin bieber has not commented. and on the five-year anniversary miracle on the hudson, survivors were reunited.
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the hero captain, sully sullenberger, said everyone survived because of the efforts of the flight crew. it's still amazing to see that landing and video. >> i can't believe it's five years ago. thanks very much. coming up, new york, it's full of surprises. some of them are downright terrifying. "the ridiculist" is next. around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it when you know where to look. [ male announcer ] what kind of energy is so abundant, it can help provide the power for all this? natural gas. ♪ more than ever before, america's electricity is generated by it. exxonmobil uses advanced visualization
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time now for the ridiculist. let's take a moment to reflect on my hometown, new york city. truly is an amazing place to live. museums, theater, energy of the city has been well-documented. there's something else you can say about new york. a surprise around every corner. i offer the following video as proof filmed on the sidewalks of this wonderful city, and i warn you there is a chance it may haunt you forever. >> only in new york, people. you see, an unattended stroller and then get the life scared out of you by a devil baby. it's actually the most brilliant marketing campaign ever. the creative and possibly demented minds of "think moto,"
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rigged up a stroller with an animatronic baby and sent said stroller around the city to capture people's reactions. enjoy. [ screaming ] [ screaming ] >> that last shot there i think should be some sort of a welcome to new york campaign. that is a true new yorker, people. not a flinch, not the slightest reaction. he probably saw scarier things on his commute into work. so the movie that this diabolical prank is promoting is called "devil's due" about a woman pregnant with the spawn of satan. so i guess the whole thing's appropriate. think moto did another campaign for the remake of the movie carrie" a few months back inside a coffee shop. >> just get away from me. >> just get out of my way. >> oh, my god! >> all right. that would be pretty unsettling to see.
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no doubt about it. but i'm thinking it's slightly less terrifying than the demon baby. [ screaming ] [ screaming ] >> oh, no! >> wow. the vomit was a nice touch, wasn't it? didn't expect that one coming. good night from the city that never sleeps. and here's wishing you sweet dreams on "the ridiculist." >> all right. that's it for us. our panelists on "ac360" is next.
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welcome to "ac 360 later." tonight, what first responders saw on the scene of that fiery plane crash in san francisco. also, was the war in iraq worth it? violence there raising new questions. and richard dreyfuss on his new life as an oxford academic. and michelle obama's 50th and the latest installment of who wants to be france's first lady, the girlfriend or the mistress. we'll show your comments at the bottom of the screen. with us tonight, correspondent christiane amanpour. journalist alison stewart, author of "first class," and also political commentator