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it was, and i have been a republican when it was bad. >> he didn't get a nomination, but he did get a volkswagen nomination. >> everybody wins. >> jeanne moos, cnn. >> i will hit the grounds running, come out swinging and end up winning. >> new york. >> ac 360 starts right now. good evening, everyone, we have a big night ahead. starting with breaking news, a 360 exclusive, the mayor of hoboken, new jersey already accused new jersey governor chris christie withholding super storm sandy relief money. she's already taken fire for saying what she has. she talked to federal investigators over the weekend. now only on this program, the mayor reveals documents that she says help back up her case. in a moment, can you see for yourself, decide for yourself, first, how we got here. >> it's an ultimatum of epic political proportions.
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support our development project or lose critical hurricane relief funding. chris christie's lieutenant governor calls it false. >> being a sandy victim myself makes the mayors allegations particularly offensive to me. >> dawn zimmer described a scene to candy crowley right out of a movie. she was approached last may, threatened to withhold sandy money, unless the governor supported a plan in her town. >> she said this was a direct message from the governor. >> that is a direct tie to christie much more than any allegation in bridge gate. >> the governor's version of our conversation is not only false,
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but it is illogical, and does not with stand scrutiny when all of the facts are examined. >> a christie spokesman said, it's very clear partisan politics are at play here, as democratic players with the political axe to grind come out of the woodwork and try to get their faces on television. hoboken's mayor had publicly supported her republican governor in the past. zimmer provided private journal entries to cnn telling a different story. she also gave the u.s. attorney investigating how sandy funds were used. zimmer wrote at the time of christie, i thought he was something different. this week i found out he's cut from the same corrupt cloth i had been fighting for the last four years. being something different is christie's political calling card. sources who attended this past weekend. the way he's handled scandals so far, should make them more
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confident in him, not less. >> he said to those donors, if i ever put myself up for a national office, you and everyone have an absolute right to know how i deal with problems. lightning will strike. >> but he also privately announced he's putting any potential 2016 race for president on hold for a year. republican strategist anna navarro attended several florida events. >> talking to these billionaires, people who chris christie will need if he wants to run for president. what's your sense of how they feel about all this? >> i think chris christie has taken the initiative, putting 2016 on pause. i think this buys some time for other potential candidates who may be deciding what they do. and not be at risk of losing donors and activists that commit to christie. >> allegations along with the bridge scandal, reinforced the notion that political poison to chris christie, charge fair or not that he is a bully. in so far as the bridge story is
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concerned, the facts are yet from complete. dawn zimmer joins us with what could be new evidence. i appreciate you buying with us, mayor. you sent a letter to governor christie on april 23rds that you provided us, we're showing it on the screen. asking for funding for pumps, to help the flooding problem in hoboken, i want to read part of what you said, you said to the governor, just as shore towns are not being asked for development in exchange for protecting from future storms, the solution cannot be dependent on future development. this was sent before your meeting with the lieutenant governor, does this mean you felt pressure already about future development? >> various meetings that i had with our administration, i did feel that there was a lot of discussion about development. in those meetings, it was not a direct connection made, but there was pressure, and so, i do
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think that while -- i think what's interesting about what the lieutenant governor said today is, she says that my -- it's illogical what i said, and when you look at the documents, you look at the letters, that i've written, can you see that it wasn't illogical at all. it's actually a progression leading up to something where they wanted to send me, give me a very direct message, because they felt i wasn't getting the message clearly enough, so she was sent in. >> people close to the lieutenant governor, as you said, the lieutenant governor called the allegation complete. i want to read to you what a source close to the lieutenant governor said about your conversation. kim, meaning the lieutenant governor, she was talking about redevelopment and making investments in hoboken. she remembers zimmer pressing kim for more money. and she remembers pressure for
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aid for sandy. are you saying this letter disproves that? >> that's the first time i'm hearing that. i didn't realize that she -- she didn't actually say that directly today, but i mean this letter makes it clear that i was the one on april 23rd, sent them a letter, and very clearly said, you can't connect the two, and it's not fair to connect the two. and that was part of the conversation that we had. i said, you know, are you saying after she said to me, you know, that you have to move ahead with the rockefeller project, i said, is any other town being asked to do development in exchange for help with the flooding? and her answer was, well, the shore brings in $38 billion. so she was the one connecting -- she very clearly was connecting the development with the sandy aide in our conversation, and i made it clear -- it's eironic she's coming around saying that, when i sent a letter on april
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23rd saying these two things are not connected and that's not fair. >> you're saying, you point blank said to her, is any other town being asked to link development to sandy aids. you made that linkage clear that was your interpretation of what she was say something. >> she did not dispute it. she restated the fact that, i know it's not fair, these things shouldn't be connected but they are. that's in the journal entry that i gave to -- >> you're saying, these shouldn't be connected but they are? >> yes. >> were those her words? >> that's what i recall, that's what i wrote at the time, i wrote the journal entry a few days after the meeting with her. >> also for the first time now, we're seeing another letter you sent that you provided us on may 8th to the governor saying you were stunned you weren't getting the funding requests. that's two days before you had the meeting with lieutenant governor. what is that second letter. what do you believe it shows. what do you believe it proves?
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>> back to her statement that it's all illogical, you look at all the events together, you can see it was a progression. it was a progression of pressure, and she was sent in to really make that final message to me on may 8th, there's a few important things that happened. on may 8th, there was a planning board decision, the planning board voted down the zoning that the rockefeller group wanted for their property. and on may 8th, we had severe flooding and the letter i sent to the governor showed pictures of the severe flooding we had again in hoboken. and i -- i -- on may 8th, i sent a letter saying, that these things cannot be -- that we really need the funding and that basically i had received my office had received notice that we were not going to believe receiving funding, i was writing saying, i hope this is not the final decision, we really need help. that happens on wednesday may 8th. the planning board meeting, the
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letter to the governor saying, please, we really need help, i'm hearing we're not going to get hazard mitigation funding. i hope that's not the case. >> do you believe the may 10th -- >> two days later, their office calls friday afternoon and says, we want to do a sandy business ehaven't on monday? i feel like 10:00 in the morning the timing seemed strange. we had already gone the opening for at least a month before, but certainly wanted to welcome her. >> her reason for coming down was specifically in response to this letter of may 8? >> i do. i do believe it. i believe it was related. i think that she -- that event was created so that she could come and have the opportunity to make air very clear message to me. >> you've done two interviews i believe this weekend.
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you hadn't mentioned these letters before, why now? >> these letters were provided. they were provided to msnbc, and i think steve may have brought them up in his show. >> conversation? >> yeah. there's a lot of information, there's a lot of documents, there's a lot of issues around the connection between the port authority and who funded the study, and the connection with david samson and wolf and samson, i know it's complicated for the public to understand, but you know, in -- really the bottom line is, that week, that week of may 8th, that day, there was some important things that happened. and right after that time frame, when i send this letter saying, i can't believe this is really true, we're not going to get hazard funding. when the planning board voted down the zoning that the rockefeller group wanted, well then in -- the governor's -- the lieutenant governor's office calls on monday, they come, and she delivers a very clear message, because i think they felt i wasn't getting the
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message clearly enough. and they wanted to make it clear to me. >> i want to talk specifically about what she said to you. we have to take a quick break, we're going to have more with the mayor of hoboken. tweet us using #ac 360. the threat to turn the winter olympic games into a blood bath in order to prevent one.
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welcome back, we heard the mayor of hoboken, new jersey. before the break we were talking about the days leading up to the lieutenant governor's statement. the governor's office did not issue a specific statement, but they questioned the timing of this, your conversation was may 10th, the first letter is dated
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april 23rd, they question why this is coming out now, saying you gave interviews before, and this didn't come out. >> as far as these letters? >> yeah. >> i mean, these letters were provided to msnbc, and this is just further highlight iing the progression, the pressure that i felt, and sort of connecting the dots, so to speak. when she's saying that its illogical, these letters, they -- they're further demonstration of what was happening and how it was really connected. but the bottom line is, the reason she came, and she said this to me. you know, i stand by my word. i mean -- >> when she said it to you, what was your immediate initial response? and your immediate. what was going through your mind? >> i couldn't believe it. i couldn't believe that she was saying what she was saying, i
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mean, and she very clearly said these things shouldn't be connected but they are. it's not right. and if you tell anyone i will deny it. >> she said that? >> yes. >> this is not something you forget, when the lieutenant governor tells you in a parking lot, if you tell anyone, i'll deny it, i was very upset, i did a your honoral entry a few days later. >> she said this came directly from christie? >> she said, yes, the rockefeller project is very important to the governor, i was with him on friday night. i don't know all the details. i started to explain some challenges i'm facing on the ground. i want to move the process forward. that's the challenge, eye have found myself in meetings explaining to the christie administration, can we all get together, be careful here?
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we can't have a conversation about what the plan is for the rockefeller group, because it hasn't been designated, it's my job as the mayor of hoboken to follow that redevelopment law. the mayor and the city council we are the ones responsible for implementing that law. >> so when you see the lieutenant governor in a press conference announcing point blank, your memory of the conversation is offensive, completely inaccurate. and as a victim of sandy, she's offended, you're saying she's lying? >> well, i -- yeah, i'm -- she said she would deny, and she's denying it, part of me is not surprised, and my reaction is, you're offended? how do you think i feel, and everyone in hoboken feels? we haven't been given that much funding. and we have been told there's a connection between the two when there's a push to get one particular project through. and development in hoboken, we
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have to do it very carefully. we are only one square mile. there's only two small roads into the north end of hoboken, we're talking about a 30 acre area, there's a push to move ahead with a four acre area to give 2 million square feet to one property owner, the rockefeller group. i have a property owner that's been there for decades, they own nine acres, it's my job to be fair. that's all i'm saying. >> you have subsequently tweeted positive things about governor christie. why would you do that if you felt he was strong arming you? >> i felt torn about this? he has done very good things for hoboken, i mean, i think he's done terrific things for the state overall. i do think that he has been a great governor and i support him on the 2% cap, the arbitration,
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these are things that really have helped the state, they need to continue to help the state. his administration was tremendous in helping us with the hospital. >> to not mention this sooner and now mention it, people say this smacks of politics. to you -- are you saying you didn't mention it because you thought he did some good things in general? were you concerned, were you afraid to mention it? >> i didn't think people would believe me. and also i didn't want -- they didn't make their final decisions on the funding until much later and so i wanted to -- you know, i wanted to keep some chances out there to try to get the funding for ohoboken. if i were to come out and make these accusations, i would hurt our chances in getting the funding. >> what is it like to make these accusations? >> it's a challenge.
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i'm someone who got into politics because i care about my town. i was a stay at home mom before i got into politics. i wanted to bring a park to our neighborhood. which is something we're about to make happen. i need to keep my voice out there and have people know i'm doing this because i care about my town. >> is it scary? >> it's hard, because obviously there's very powerful people across the country all giving their opinions on me. it's ironic i have had experience dealing with the national media and international stories because of something the governor was part of making happen peter camrado getting arrested and going to jail. that's an investigation the governor started as u.s. attorney. he went to jail for something --
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for really pushing, promising to expedite development projects. >> has anyone pushed you to come forward and talk about this? >> no, i don't have -- i've been considered, the democrats are frustrated with me, how could i support the republican governor for four years. i don't have these massive connections to the -- i don't know who's head of the -- i don't know, i'm a democrat. they haven't called me at all. >> no, they have not called me, i have no connection to them. i'm a democrat, i think president obama has been through some challenges, he's doing a great jobbed rebuild by design competition that started under secretary donovan is an excellent opportunity for hoboken. >> what do you think should happen to christie? >> support my rebuild by design competition, it's an excellent
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opportunity i was dune in a meeting a month ago, i said to mark, they invited me down for a briefing, can you put some support for rebuild by design into the second tranche of funding? he said, you need to let me know how much development you're willing to do. that was the answer i got back. that pressure is there. and the writing's on the wall, that's part of my thinking for coming forward, that threat is there and we're not going to get more funding if i don't -- i'm really between a rock and a hard place. >> pressure from the lieutenant governor, that's not a one time thing? you're saying there's a pattern of this? right, well, it's not a one time thing. that pressure was continuing until i came forward. and that pressure was going to continue. >> since you've come forward, has anyone said anything to you? >> no, i haven't talked to them at all. they're saying that they had
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someone in my office who was there for rebuild by design, which was great, but no one has directly said to me we think it's great the plan you have. it's a water management system that could protect the entire city. it will benefit new jersey transit. you see the pictures of water going through the elevator. it would add a level of protection for them. this is a win win for everyone so that's what i'm asking, governor, please support this, when i get an answer back saying, you know -- >> mark fazan. >> is head of the sandy recovery process for the governor. when i get an answer back saying you need to tell us the level of development you're ready to do? >> the head of the sandy redevelopment process was talking to you about development? >> he said that like a month ago. i didn't do exactly what they
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want, so the pressure continues. >> dumb question, i assume i know the answer. i assume you're not going to governor christie's inauguration tomorrow? >> i don't think i'm invited. >> thanks for being on. i hope your voice gets better. >> thank you. >> if you want to see the letters we were talking about, you can read them on our website. rudy giuliani downplayed the investigations and called the bridge issue a witch hunt. here's what mr. giuliani recently had to say. >> i don't see anything in his background that suggests he takes advantage of people, he pushes them around, he's nasty to them. i've been with him and his family many, many times, i don't see anything different about him than most of the people i know. it's a stereotype. if something happens that
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reinforces your stereotype, it becomes a big deal. >> true politics, dana basch is back, along with gloria borgier. >> what do you think about these allegations? >> they're serious. that's why they're being investigated. what we heard tonight is the big question, who used redevelopment as the bargaining trip? was it the mayor as the governor's office would charge or the governor as the mayor charges but this is very serious legal issue, it also ties in -- if the mayor is telling the truth, it ties it directly to chris christie, because we have a lieutenant governor saying, this is what the governor wants, and she was delivering the message, although she said apparently she would deny it and this, of course, sandy return relief is so much a part of chris christie's brand, who he
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is. the sort of can do governor. what the mayor is saying is, there was more to it than that. >> if this conversation is accurate as the mayor says, it's like something out of a movie for the lieutenant governor saying, i'm going to deny this conversation ever took place. >> and, you know, in a parking lot. >> in new jersey. >> yeah -- >> if it's true -- >> did really is. that is another reason why this is potentially so devastating to christie. not only the biggest reason, this is much more than bridge gate ties the issue directly to the governor, but also because this is another thing that people can understand. people can understand what happened in sandy, people can understand -- because they've seen so many movies and lifetime series about this. >> people watching "house of cards" say isn't this how politics is done? aren't deals like this done all
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the time? >> well, these are threats. these are threats that are not legal. if you're lbj and you say, i want your vote on the civil rights bill. and if you don't give it to me i'll close the bridge in your town. that's understandable. this is more illegal. >> it's more overt than what you think might happen or did happen in lbj's time. >> isn't this done on capitol hill all the time? it's sort of deal making. >> that's what a supporter of christie's who doesn't believe -- >> the allegations here are way beyond deal making, it is a threat. it's a threat of, if you want this project back in your state, you're going to support my initiative here, this is, we're not going to give the residents of your town, which you know, you were there. 80% of their water during sandy, we're not going to give them
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help unless you support our development project because the governor supports it because he has friends in a law firm. it is almost -- >> it's not a museum named after a mayor. >> but something that people can understand. >> what i saw here with you is a mayor, who's concerned about the city of hoboken, she's saying chris christie is a great governor who's done great things for the state, but she clearly still wants this money, and i think she came out of frustration or felt that perhaps she would be believed this time around. >> it's not the only thing we've heard appreciate you both being with us. we're going to have much more on a special edition of ac 360 at 10:00 p.m. we're devoighti idevoting the e to it. police believe this woman may be a terrorist who could target will winter olympics. ♪
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welcome back, the already tense runup to the winter olympics just got downright terrifying due to the black widow. authorities fear she may be planning to get her revenge targeting the games in sochi. they are trying to find her now. nobody pretends she's acting alone not after the recent bombings in vol vegrad. the latest on the dragnet from moscow. >> i understand officials are looking for at least one black
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widow woman they fear may be planning an attack during the olympics, what's the latest? >> the distributed notices, abdom anderson to hotels in sochi, to look out forethis woman, she's from the republic of dagistan. she's the widow of a known militant. they have information which leads them to believe she travelled from dagistan to sochi somewhere between january 11th to the 14th. she may be working with a known terrorist organization. she's said to be quite distinctive in appearance, a lame right leg, a large scar on the cheek of her face. this comes after a jihaddy video has been released which we've heard from islamists claiming responsibility for the deadly attack attacks just a few weeks ago,
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and promising there will be much worse to come during the sochi games. mounting earn cans in russia this morning, as the olympic torch makes its way through the bomb ravaged city. the back to back suicide bombings last month that claimed 34 lives. and warning that more attacks could come during the sochi olympic games. in the hour long video, the purported suicide bombers are seen constructing explosives and explaining their motives, all before heading to their targets, triggers in hand. the two men part of an islamist militant group, vowing to prepare a present for the olympics and all the tourists who come over. members of tourists are concerned. >> something does happen, what is the evacuation plan and emergency response plan that would take place? >> others worried about americans headed to sochi. >> i would not go, and i don't think i would send my family.
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>> i am very concerned about the status of the olympics. i do believe that the russian government needs to be more cooperative with the united states when it comes to the security of the games. >> russian president vladimir putin deploying a security force. >> in an interview with abc news, putin says he will do whatever it takes to keep athletes and visitors safe. and pledging that russia has adequate means of security. security around the olympic venue on high alert. metal detectors and bomb sniffing dogs get underway in just two weeks. >> from the russian perspective, how do they view their cooperation with the u.s. on security for the olympics. >> it's not something they discuss openly at all. they see this as their
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responsibili responsibility. and indeed we've heard a lot more from russian authorities about their desire to cooperate with the united states particularly on terrorism matters. this has been a poor period for relations between the united states and russia, where there have been question marks between the two countries on these issues. when it comes to sochi in particular, we know what a role vladimir putin plays in this, he sees this as his responsibility to carry off safely and securely, from all the comments we've heard from him in recent days, he remains confident that will be the case, anderson. >> phil, appreciate the update. president obama's comments about race in a new interview, why everything he says getting parsed so closely. and also, the oscar
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president obama and his family marked today's federal holiday by volunteering at a washington, d.c., kitchen that prepares meals for needy people. it was five years ago today that barack obama was sworn in as the 44th president to take the oath of office. mr. obama has often shied away from talking about race, but in a revealing interview, he acknowledges there are people who dislike him because he's
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african-american. we'll talk more about it with the director of "12 years a slave." he spoke about race in a way he hasn't spoken many about. he said, there's some folks who dislike me because they don't like the idea of a black president. he said there's some people who like him because he's an african-american president. >> that's a formulation he's very careful to make. i don't know that the second part is as much in evidence any more as the first part, and the right wing. a lot of the twittersphere went berserk on it. really? this is such a mystery that there are some people in the united states that don't like barack obama because he's black? >> just the reaction to what the president said. >> points to why this president
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hasn't spoken about race? >> clearly. this is one of those subject matters that this individual the president has had to dance around for several years now, going into the election the first time, as he was president, and i think it's a difficult subject matter on both sides. there are a lot of people of color who wish he had been more of the black president, and some have said that quite literally. he needs to be the black president. i have a problem with that. if someone had said, president bush needs to be the white president, people would freak out. >> one of the things that the president has said he's been accused of, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, booker t. washington. he didn't think it was fair. he's not letting the larger society off the hook. >> no he's perfectly aware that institutional racism exists in
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our society. no one's discounting that. >> i was once interviewing obama, he was very, very careful. as we were leaving a room, he basically told me, look, there's just -- this subject, no matter what i say, it's parsed so carefully it's hand grenades that can go off. the most important thing that will happen to barack obama is his election and he knows that. >> also, people have commented on the fact that he can't be seen as being angry about the subject of race which is such a bizarre thing to have to operate under that mantle that you can't -- >> he lives a bizarre life. again, i've seen people of color wishing he would get more demonstrative about issues or harder pushback on certain things like the birther
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movement. and there are others who say you scant do that, because you're going to come off as the angry black man. it's unfortunate when you're an individual that breaks barriers, sometimes you have to do it in a way that is different from someone else whose people have been in the room before. true with a person of color, with women. if a man acted like this he would get promoted. if a woman acts like this, she would be considered a you know what. >> you're talking about a longer game which is something you write about in the ashl as well? >> absolutely. people from the civil rights movement all the way back to slavery, having spent four years researching this individual and what he went through for the film "12 years a slave." and what i went through, and he had to believe in something that was not even seen. when i look back at individuals who could see something that did not exist in anyway shape or
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form when i look at the president and see that he has a long range vision i'm very impressed by that. there are moments where i get very frustrated, come on, man. do this, do that. this is an individual who knows how to weave his way around some of the anger, the rancher, he certainly has an understanding of how he needs to present himself. >> thank you very much. up next tonight, deadly plant explosion in omaha, nebraska. a maryland mother stabbed two of her children to death and wounded another while attempting an excorcism. japan's secret dolphin hunt. 200 dolphins penned up in a cove. now awaiting slaughter. ♪
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mar maryland authorities are piecing together what happened in a townhouse where two children were stabbed and one injured. their murder has been charged with murder. the mother told them she stabbed her children as part of an exorc exorcism. >> i'm so sorry i couldn't save them. >> police responded to what they thought was a routine 911 call. but turned out to be anything but. >> the house, i heard loud noises in the night, i just wake up, and i heard like jumping and -- i didn't know, they have four children. >> what they found was a car with an open door, a knife, and blood. that gave them the probable cause to go in the townhouse. and what they found when they got inside, shock, the most hardened law enforcement professionals. >> they found the gruesome discovery of two children who
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appeared to have been deceased. and appeared to have had some sort of injuries to their bodies. they also discovered a 5-year-old female in another room who had had some injuried as well, she was conscious. >> the children were found in the master bedroom, their mother was holding a fourth child, also stabbed when officers confronted her. behind her a friend, who police say helped her in the attack, also had a stab wound to her neck. >> they ademented to try to speak with her in order to get an explanaion. and they could not understand what she was telling them. >> the mother, 28-year-old zakia avery, attempted to flee the crime scene, but was tackled by police and arrested. >> those who knew the family are broken hearted. >> there was nothing that made us think something like that was going on over here. it's awkward, the story is shocking. >> avery told them she was
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performing a rite of exorcism on her children. >> they believed the evil spirits were in their children and they needed to get rid of the evil spirits. >> but there's no evidence that an exorcism took place. >> we found no bible, no instructions. no minister present on scene to our knowledge. >> exorcism or not, prosecutors are charging avery with two counts of first degree murder and two counts of attempted first degree murder, eligible for the death penalty. the family pastor cannot comprehend what might have gone wrong. this wasn't the family who attended his church. >> they were confident and happy kids, you know, you kind of get a feel for kids that are abused or neglected. and that just did not fit these children.
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>> while no one at this point can determine her state of mind, investigators believe avery acted intentionally and knew exactly what she was doing. >> she didn't hesitate to basically try to evade us along with her son. and in fact we believe that maybe she was trying to convince the others that what they were doing was okay, even the other female told us, oh, i'm okay. >> jean casarez joins us from germantown, maryland. what's next in this case, it's so bizarre how do authorities know these women are telling the truth. >> they're first court appearance is tomorrow. they don't know if the women are telling the truth. both told the story that they were in the middle of an exorcism. here's the thing, they have nothing else to show there was
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an exorcism. i was speaking to a lawyer, he said a good defense lawyer should get in there to the jail with a video camera, if she was having the delusion that the spirits were in the children, she will be talking that way. he needs to record that, once she's on medication, those days will be over. and once they get to court, she looks like she's very normal. >> two people involved in this. jean casarez, appreciate it. susan hendricks has a 360 bulletin. >> a deadly accident today at an industrial plant in omaha, nebraska, at least two people were killed when a fire broke out at the international foods facility. part of the building collapsed, but all employees have been accounted for, at least four people were critically injured. the american citizen being held in north korea said in a statement he has committed a serious crime against that country. he was arrested more than a year ago, north korea won't say why. it has a history of exacting
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tonight worldwide outrage over the fate of 200 bottle nose dolphins. japanese fishermen have herded hundreds of them. what happens in the cove each year used to be a well kept secret. not any more. warning, it is hard to wash. the dolphins thrash around fishing nets in vein trying to get back to open water. they'red into the infamous tygee cove, 200 dolphins will be sold to marine parks and aquariums. others will be severed for their meat. >> the dolphins do not die immediately. it takes up to 20 to 30 minutes for the dolphins to die, where they bleed out, suffocate or
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drown in the process of being dragged to the butcher house. >> it's a brutal spectacle that has turned the water red with blood for hours. organizers of the annual hunt for years have been able to keep cameras away, then came the movie "the cove." it won an oscar and exposed the slaughter to the world. they used an elaborate setup of hidden cameras to show this fishing village's setup. it's not only tradition, but no different than the slaughter of any animal eaten in western countries. >> translator: people are just thinking too emotionally about the dolphins, they want to protect them because they're cute and clever. >> we're going to have more on this story tomorrow night, marine mammal specialist who's featured in the documentary will join us, that does it for this edition of 360. we'll see you later in an hour
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for pay back politics, allegations against chris christie's administration. piers morgan live starts now. this is "piers morgan live." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. the movie was raunchy, raw and some people say crosses the line. >> one, two, three. >> stop. safety first. >> safety is first. we don't want to get a bad reputation. >> the wolf of wall street. the man who was the inspiration for leonardo dicaprio's character. >> i think what you just did was try to bribe a federal officer? >> technically i didn't bribe anybody. >> technically -- >> according to the u.s. criminal code, there needs to be an exact dollar figure for the exchange of services, that would not hold up in a court of law. >> no -- >> no, no, no, no, no. that's the truth. >>