good evening. live in new york, the two people killed in a maryland mall shooting have been identified. police say brianna benlolo, age 21, and tyler johnson, age 25, were gunned down by a man with a shotgun inside a store where they both worked. police say the gunman apparently killed himself. one witness told cnn how she helped others rush to safety. >> i heard somebody say, shots fired, get down. i grabbed a child and told the mom, come with me, we're leaving, we can't be here. i got her into sears, alerted everybody in sears, there's a gunman in the stores, get out

now. i ran all the way upstairs and went to my job and grabbed whatever i could and went back with the kids and took care of them. barricaded the door so nobody could get in. >> police have not identified the gunman or a motive. stay with cnn and cnn.com for the latest. one was world renowned, among the greatest musicians of the 20th century. >> john lennon had charisma. he was just special. >> john lennon was my favorite beatle. >> the other was a lonely kid from georgia, with no particular talents and no real direction in life. >> everyone said he was a nice person. >> he wanted to bring attention to himself. >> they were as different as night and day. two men on intense personal

journeys that converged in a single shocking act. >> i took five steps and fired. five shots. >> i literally held john lennon's heart in my hand. >> it was an unthinkable crime that left millions in mourning. the murder of john lennon next. it's a chilly night at around 10:45 p.m. police respond to a report of a shooting at the dakota, an exclusive apartment building on manhattan's upper west side. >> when we drove up to the

dakota, there was a man standing in the middle of the street pointing into the archway saying, that's the man doing the shooting. we get out of the car, we approached the archway, on each side of it. looked in and saw a man with his hands up. >> five shots have been fired. all but one found their target. >> so i grabbed the guy around the neck. the doorman, jose, said "he's the one, he's the only one. he shot john lennon." i was totally shocked. i threw him up against the wall. and i said, "you did what?" >> former beatle john lennon has been shot with four hollow-point .38-caliber bullets at close range. police officers rush lennon to nearby roosevelt hospital, but it's too late. shortly after 11:00 p.m., the emergency room doctor pronounces john lennon dead.

>> former beatle john lennon was gunned down in front of his exclusive manhattan apartment -- >> the life of a folk hero -- >> gunned down as he entered -- >> the news ripped through the air in shockwaves. john lennon shot and killed in the dakota apartment building -- >> it was really shocking. 40 years old, john lennon of the beatles. how could he be dead? how could this have happened? the city was in shock, not just people of my generation that grew up listening to their music in the '60s. i think just about everybody felt that, on so many levels, it was wrong. >> it was terrible. i mean, i think just the way so many people that didn't even know john felt -- it just hit home with me much more because he befriended me, and he didn't have to befriend me. >> in new york, cnn investigative reporter laura dedio has come up with new facts about john lennon's accused killer.

>> the killer was identified as mark david chapman, 25-year-old fan and drifter from hawaii. >> nothing from his background set off or would have caused to set off any alarm bells whatsoever. >> chapman apparently was well liked by most of the people he knew. the most common description was open, friendly, a hard worker with a ready smile. >> i don't think i've ever seen anybody say anything bad about him. >> i couldn't believe it. just didn't seem like the type person. >> normal, regular, everybody here liked him. >> very peaceful. >> he was just a fine young -- >> couldn't have asked for anything better. >> most of those can't believe he's the same person charged with killing john lennon. >> everybody that we interviewed, and there were a lot, every one said he's a nice person. not capable of doing something like this. >> it was a tragic conclusion to an extraordinary life. john lennon, co-founder of the legendary beatles, was gone. ♪

during the 1960s, the beatles were the biggest rock group in the world. their influence and popularity were unparalleled. >> i think the beatles spoke to young people in the '60s in a way that no other band did. they influenced people in so many different ways. not just muzcally but socially, politically, culturally. they were the touchstone for everything that was going on in the '60s. >> among the millions of american kids who worshipped the beatles was a shy, reclusive teenager named mark david chapman. he was an especially fervent fan of john lennon. during their heyday, the beatles were open about their experiences with psychedelic drugs. like his idols, chapman begins experimenting. >> the defendant described there was periods of time in his life when he was more of the hippie nature, tried experimental drugs, as many people during that period of time did. >> but in 1971, chapman becomes

a born-again christian. he quits drugs and rejects rock 'n' roll. the beatles and john lennon in particular. >> well, i became a christian when i was 16. and that lasted about a year of genuine walking with him, through my life, off and on, i have struggled with different things, as we all do. and at those times, i would turn to the lord. >> chapman's newfound faith comes into conflict with his feelings about his former idol. according to friends, chapman was notably bothered by lennon's songs "god," in which he states i don't believe in jesus, and his hit "imagine" with the lyrics, imagine there's no countries and no religion too." chapman wrote his own words to the song with the altered lyric "imagine john lennon dead." >> the defendant claimed that he was offended by the statement

that john lennon had made that the beatles had become more popular than jesus christ. >> it was an off-the-cuff comment made during an interview in 1966, but it caused a lasting furor. >> a number of people in the bible belt, young and old, took this comment to be, oh, you're bigger than jesus, you're bigger than god, this is blasphemy, how dare you say something like this. he was totally misquoted. what he meant to say was that more people paid attention to the beatles than paid attention to jesus. and he was only making an observation about that. not putting any context to it or not saying that was a good thing or a bad thing. >> the beatles weather the storm. but in 1970, the band breaks up. and lennon embarks on a solo career with his new wife, yoko ono. a year later, the lennons move to new york city and take up residence at the fabled dakota

apartments. the dakota's gothic facade had been featured in the film "rosemary's baby." it was home to some of the world's most famous artists, actors and musicians. >> i think he felt it was time for a change and i think they viewed america as being a breath of fresh air for them at that time. little did they know what trouble awaits them. >> in new york, john and yoko adopted a high- profile, politically and musically. perhaps inevitably their anti-war activism drew the attention and ire of the nixon administration. >> in the early '70s, the united states government began a campaign against john lennon to silence him. they were really concerned that he would influence young people who were going to be voting for the first time in the 1972 election. and they didn't want that to happen. >> they were conducting surveillance operations. they were monitoring him. cars would follow him around. they did the whole intelligence

enchilada. >> after nixon was driven from office by the watergate scandal, the pressure on lennon let up. and by 1975, he had withdrawn from the public eye. >> he was not in hiding. he was not a recluse. what he was doing was devoting full time to raising his son sean. that was his priority. >> during those days, lennon and ono became familiar figures in their neighborhood. >> he liked the informality in new york. he liked the architecture. he liked the ability to walk. >> you'd hear stories about how john would be walking with his family down the street and people would walk up to him. what's it like living in manhattman ha

manhatt manhattan? he said, it's cool, people don't bother you. >> he loved new york because people didn't bother him. in new york, they respected his privacy and say, hey, john, how's things going, they'd shake his hand and say john, i like your music or something. but they didn't pester him. >> in november 1980, lennon emerged from his retirement with a release of "double fantasy," an album he's recorded with ono. lennon had just turned 40. to many, it seemed that john lennon had entered a promising new phase. but this image of a happy, contented husband and father would only serve to enrage a young man in hawaii. a once-devoted fan. mark david chapman. >> he was in the house, sitting naked in front of his stereo listening to really loud beatles music and invoking satan to help him have the power to kill john lennon. your eyes really are unique. in fact, they depend on a unique set of nutrients. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help protect your eye health.

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shortly before 11:00 monday night -- >> john lennon was gunned down in front of his apartment. >> former beatle -- >> the assailant is mark david chapman waiting with a .38 caliber. >> on the night he shot john lennon mark david chapman was just 25 years old. it had been 25 years of almost painful anonymity. >> there was nothing that we learned from the extensive interviews and investigation of the defendant's background that suggested that he was much different than any other 25-year-old person. >> at least on the surface.

chapman grew up in georgia, the older of two children in what seemed like a typical suburban family. >> the defendant claimed in interviews with psychiatrists that he had a rough childhood and had a less than ideal relationship with his father, but there is nothing in his background of such an extreme or extraordinary nature that would suggest some kind of lay tent insanity or mental disease or defect caused by some childhood trauma. >> after high school, chapman begins to drift through a series of jobs and halfhearted attempts at college. in 1977, he flies to hawaii where he plans to kill himself. he reportedly tries twice, but fails. chapman stays in hawaii. over the next three years, he is hospitalized at least once, gets married, takes a job in a print shop, then quits. and goes to work as an unarmed security guard at a luxury high-rise condo.

he's obsessed with j.d. salinger's "catcher in the rye." the classic novel of adolescent angst. chapman identifies closely with the book's protagonist, holden caulfield, who rails against the phonies he encounters. chapman would later claim by the summer of 1980, he was coming unhinged. >> j.d. salinger, who's not been heard from for years, he's reclusive, wrote "ketchner tca" the rye," read by millions. admired by millions. and wonder what must he be thinking watching this? >> in 1992, larry king interviewed mark henry chapman via remote feed in attica. >> mark, why are you blaming a book? >> i am blaming myself for contractualing inside of a book. i want to say that j.d. salinger and "catcher in the rye" did not cause me to kill john lennon. in fact, i wrote j.d. salinger i got his box number from someone, and i apologized to him for this.

>> in october 1980, chapman turns his resentment against phonies, towards john lennon, when he reads an article about the upcoming release of "double fantasy." >> this thing started, larry, when i got angry at lennon. i found a book in the library that showed him on the roof of dakota. you're familiar with the dakota. it's a very nice, sumptuous building. and i'm angry at seeing him on the dakota. and i say to myself, that phony, that bastard. i got that mad. i took the book home to my wife and i said, look, he's a phoney. >> this is his calendar from december of '79 to december of '80. it leads you all the way through his manic months before lennon's death. >> writer jim gaines spent hundreds of hours between 1984 and 1985 interviewing mark chapman. >> and you can see it becomes crazier and crazier with

crossings-out and things to do. >> chapman told gaines that for years his mind had been like a war zone, occupied by opposing forces he described as the big people and the little people. >> he had a whole population of little people living in his head. to whom he gave instructions, who had meetings about what his activities should be. i mean, it was extreme. >> seething with anger, chapman buys a five-shot, .38 caliber charter arm special revolver. >> the gun used to kill lennon was traced by authorities to jns enterprises, a gun shop a block away from the honolulu police department. a sales receipt shows the gun was purchased by mark chapman on october 27th of this year. it shows chapman paid $197 in cash for the gun. >> just before buying the gun, chapman had quit his job as a security guard when he signed

out for the last time, he inscribed the name "john lennon" in the condominium's logbook. then crossed it out. six days later, on october 29th, mark chapman flies to new york city. armed with the gun he bought in hawaii, he stakes out the dakota, waiting for his chance to take revenge on the hero he believes has betrayed him. but john lennon is not the only potential victim. chapman, it seems, has backups. >> so he brought the gun with him, came to new york. and had planned at that point to kill someone who was a celebrity in order to bring attention to himself. >> lennon wasn't his only target. he had a list of substitutes, if you will. >> if he couldn't get to lennon, then he would have attempted to kill walter cronkite, johnny carson, george c. scott, jackie kennedy onassis, or marlon

brando. any of these people were his potential targets. after lennon. lennon was his first choice. >> even so, chapman's agenda included a wild scheme to kill scott while the actor was onstage in a broadway show. >> the defendant said he had front row seats, and his plan was to stand up in the middle of the show, take his gun, and fire into the body of george c. scott. it wasn't a particularly adroit plan because when he went to the gun store to buy bullets in order to have ammunition for his gun, he was told that in new york you cannot buy bullets for your gun. >> after two weeks in new york, chapman flies back to hawaii. he reveals to his wife that he is obsessed with john lennon and plans to kill him. she convinces chapman to make an appointment with a psychologist but he doesn't keep it. in early december, chapman flies back to new york, stopping over

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he goes to the dakota shortly before noon and joins a small group of fans hovering near the entrance. chapman will spend the next two days waiting for john lennon. >> who was mark david chapman? >> on december 8, 1980, mark david chapman was a very confused person. he was literally living inside of a paperback novel, j.d. salinger's "the catcher in the rye." and he was vacillating between suicide and taking the first taxi back to hawaii back and forth between killing an icon. >> and then on the morning of december 8th, chapman calls his wife in hawaii. after hanging up, chapman takes out the bible from his suitcase and turns to the new testament book of john and writes the word "lennon" after the gospel according to john. and then at 8:00 a.m., he heads

back to the dakota. >> i had a premonition that this is the last time i was going to leave my hotel room. i hadn't seen him up to that point, that's what makes it interesting, i wasn't sure he was in the building. and then i left the hotel room, bought a copy of "the catcher in the rye," signed it to holden caulfield from holden caulfield, and wrote underneath that, "this is my statement," underlining the word "this," the emphasis on the word "this." i had planned not to say anything after the shooting. >> that morning, chapman meets another fan named paul gorish. gorish, an amateur photographer, had come to know lennon personally. one of his photos was later used as the cover for lennon's posthumous single "watching the wheels." >> when i got there, there was a guy standing on the archway on the right side as you enter the dakota. he was holding a copy of "double fantasy" in his left arm. and this guy approached me and said, are you waiting for

lennon? i said, yeah. he said, do you work for jon? i said no. he said, oh. he said, my name is mark. he said, i'm from hawaii. what struck me strange is when he said that, he had a southern accent. so i said, if you're from hawaii, how come you have a southern accent? he said, well, originally i'm from georgia. and i said, oh. so i then said, whl, where you staying while you're in the city? and with that he turned to me and said, "why do you want to know?" >> sometime before 5:00 p.m., lennon and ono leave the apartment to go to lennon's last recording session. chapman and gorish are both on the sidewalk out front. chapman silently hands lennon his copy of "double fantasy." >> came up on john's left and held out the album. john turned and looked a him and said, do you want me to sign that? he nodded. john took the album, john said, do you have a pen? he handed him a pen.

john started to sign the album. i had my camera on my neck. looked like a good picture. so i looked through the viewfinder and i took the photo. that was the photo of john signing the album for his killer. >> and he looked at me, and he said, "is that all? do you want anything else?" and i felt then and now that he knew something subconsciously, that he was looking into the eyes of the person that was going to kill him. >> once lennon and ono leave for the recording studio, only chapman, gorish and the dakota doorman remain. around 8:00 p.m., gorish calls it a night. >> the guy mark came over to me and said, are you leaving? and i said, yeah. he says, well, i don't know if i'd leave you might not see him again. i said, what are you talking about? i see him all the time.

he said, you never know, he might go to spain or something and you might never see him again. >> i wanted him to stay because i wanted out of there. there was a great part of me that didn't want to be there. >> you would have killed him the next day? >> oh, yes, i probably would have come back. >> after gorish leaves chapman remains in front of the dakota. he waits patiently for some two and a half hours. >> i was sitting the inside of the arch, the dakota building. and it was dark. was windy. jose, the doorman, was out along the sidewalk. and i see this limousine pull up. and i said, this is it. and i stood up and yoko got out. john was far behind, say 20 feet. he got out. i nodded to yoko when she walked by me. john came out. and he looked at me and i think that he recognized, here's the fellow that i signed the album earlier. and he walked past me.

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i didn't even know if the bullets were going to work. and when they worked, i remember thinking, they're working, they're working. >> five bullets.

the first misses, hitting a window of the dakota, and the next two strike lennon in the left side of his back, and two more hit his left shoulder, and mortally wounded lennon staggers up five steps to the reception area and collapses. >> i stood there with the gun hanging limply down on my right side, and jose the doorman came over, and he's crying. and he's grabbing my -- he's shaking my arm and he shook the gun right out of my hand and he kicked the gun across the pavement. had somebody take it away. and i was just -- i was stunned. i didn't know what to do. i took "the catcher in the rye" out of my pocket. i paced. i tried to read it. i just couldn't wait until those police got there. i was just devastated. >> the first police are on the scene within two minutes and take control of chapman.

i think she knew as soon as i entered the door what i was going to say. >> there's muzak playing. and it must have been about 11:10. the song "all my loving" starts

to play. the song ends. a minute, two minutes later, there's a scream, a shrill woman's voice screaming "no, no, no, oh, no." it went on for about a minute, minute and a half, it was constantly repeated. and silence. >> and finally the head nurse brought in her husband's ring and gave to it her. and she understood the finality of the act that had occurred. and the first thing that she said to me was, please delay making the announcement, my son sean is probably at home sitting in front of the tv, i don't want him to find out about his father's death while watching a tv program." >> i don't think it really hit me until i heard that muzak playing the song "all my loving." i called wabc, the newsroom. told them what i knew. that john lennon had been shot. as i understand it, they passed it on to abc network and abc network made the decision to pass it on to howard cosell and

frank gifford. and howard cosell broke the news during monday night football. >> the news ripped through the air in shockwaves -- >> by 11:35 p.m., the word was out. almost immediately, mourners were gathering outside of the dakota for a candlelight vigil and they sang beatles' songs and sang "give peace a chance." >> i just felt like, you know, an incredible weight was just pressing down on me. it was just extraordinarily, extraordinarily sad. >> it impacted all of us so severely, and it was as if a friend and family member had passed away. >> i think that one of the reasons that we felt that way about him is because we had embraced him as our own. >> on december 10th, john lennon was cremated in a private ceremony. four days later, on december

14th, millions of people around the world responded to yoko ono's request to pause for ten minutes of silence to remember john lennon. over 225,000 people converged on new york's central park. for those ten minutes, every radio station in new york city went off the air. [ male announcer ] this is the story of the dusty basement at 1406 35th street the old dining table at 25th and hoffman.

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on the morning of december 9th, mark chapman, the man who killed john lennon, was put in a bulletproof vest and taken by van to the new york city criminal courts building. while chapman was awaiting arraignment, police were searching his hotel room, looking for clues that might reveal his motive.

>> in the hotel room, we found kind of a display of all of his stuff, and we had a bible, a passport, photos, and a tape by todd rundgren, airline tickets, a letter of introduction from the young men's christian association, a placemat with a picture of "the wizard of oz" and receipt from the ymca that he stayed previously to the sheraton. >> the stuff was laying there, and laid out in such a way that he had intended for somebody to find it. exactly the way it was laid out. >> how do you feel about taking this case? >> i feel good about it. >> jonathan marks, a former assistant u.s. attorney, is appointed to defend chapman. >> jonathan marks was asked whether or not he might ask for a change of venue for the trial, and his response was, certainly not at this point. he said, even if we held the

trial in paris, people would know about it. the fact that a lot of people are angry with mr. chapman and the fact that you're going to represent him, how do you feel about that? >> i'm a lawyer representing a client. >> this is not a whodunit. the defendant remained at the scene. there were witnesses who saw him do the shooting. he made no effort to flee the scene. it was clear from the initial investigation that the defendant was going to lodge an insanity defense. >> the first order of business is to have chapman's mental state evaluated. >> the only issue in this trial really will be whether or not he was insane at the time of the shooting. >> this is the prison unit of bellevue hospital where mark chapman, the alleged killer of former beatle john lennon, is being held on a second-floor cell amidst extraordinary security precautions by the department of corrections. >> defense counsel called on me and asked me if i would help him on the chapman case. i agreed. >> forensic psychiatrist dr. daniel schwartz interviewed mark david chapman on eight separate occasions for the defense.

>> clearly, mr. chapman knew what he was doing. he used a gun in an all too accurate way. he knew that it was a gun. he knew that it could kill. he pointed it at the intended victim. and unfortunately, it worked. a serious question in this case is whether or not his mental illness impaired his ability to appreciate that what he was doing was wrong. simply being mentally ill does not acquit somebody. it's only if this mental illness impairs his ability to know and appreciate the nature and the consequence of his conduct, or that it's wrong. >> dr. schwartz believes that chapman's mental illness began in childhood. >> mr. chapman became seriously withdrawn at about the age of 9 or 10. it was about that age that he began imagining a whole world of people, little people. in the living room.

in the walls of his living room. and he was their emperor, their commander. it was my clinical assessment that he was both a paranoid schizophrenic, as we understood the definition in those days, and suffering from bipolar disorder. i truly believe that when he went after john lennon, he was suicidal. john lennon was himself, had become himself. he believed that if he would kill himself, he would be reborn. in killing lennon, he was killing himself. >> mark david chapman at that point was a walking shell who didn't ever learn how to let out his feelings of anger, of rage, of disappointment. mark david chapman was a failure in his own mind. he wanted to become somebody important, larry. he didn't know how to handle being a nobody. mark david chapman struck out at something he perceived to be

phony, something he was angry at, to become something he wasn't, to become somebody. >> former assistant district attorney kim hogrefe doesn't buy it for a moment. >> if he was obsessed with anything it was bringing attention to himself. he was narcissistic, he was grandiose. he wanted to bring attention to himself. the fact that john lennon was the victim here is simply because john lennon was available, publicly available, and others were not. he wasn't crazed. he wasn't obsessed. he was not entitled to the insanity defense. we felt that he was criminally responsible, and he did not have a mental disease or defect, and that whatever his mental state was, it did not prevent him from knowing the nature of his conduct and that it was wrong. >> with the evidence at hand, a grand jury indictment is expected -- >> on june 22nd, 1981, just over six months after the murder and the day his trial is set to

begin, chapman changes his plea to guilty, against the advice of his defense team. >> when the defendant entered the guilty plea, i was disappointed by that fact, i was looking forward to the opportunity to prove the facts that we had assembled in a public trial. >> mark david chapman was sentenced to 20 years to life, and sent to the new york state penitentiary at attica. in his interview with larry king, chapman claimed to have recovered from the mental illness that had led to his crime. >> it was me, larry. and i accept full responsibility for what i did. i've seen places where i'm blaming the devil, and i hope that isn't kept going after this interview. i'm not blaming the devil. i'm blaming myself. but in the major sense, it wasn't me, because i'm better now. i'm sorry for what i did. i realize now that i really ended a man's life. i just saw him as a two-dimensional celebrity with

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astrazeneca may be able to help. in the years since john lennon's death, many people have tried to make sense of his murder. in the early 1990s, journalist and author jack jones interviewed chapman at length for his book "let me take you down: inside the mind of mark david chapman." >> mark is an unusual individual.

he's a sociopath, but he is much more intelligent than i think most of these people. i think his mind is capable of almost infinite self-deception. i believe unlike a lot of people he tries very hard to emphasize with a lot of other people. he tries to sense that owe people have pain also. it's mostly intellectual knowledge. he didn't really feel it. he wanted to hurt the world. chapman told me he fantasized in getting hold of a nuclear bomb and maybe blow up a small city, injuring and killing millions of people. >> chapman shot john lennon because he wanted his moment of glory in the sun. that's it. that's the conclusion that we came to. i stand by it to this day. >> we're back with jack jones, how do you react to those who say we shouldn't interview the mark david chapmans? there shouldn't be television shows or books, that we focus

attention on the wrong area? >> probably these are the same type of people who say we shouldn't be writing about or studying aids because it's a deadly topic. we have an opportunity for a guy like mark chapman who has agreed to open himself up for exploration and study to hopefully prevent other mark david chapmans from coming along. people who criticize journalists for exploring people like that i think disappoint. >> it gives him publicity for this horrendous act he committed. the killers become as face as the people they killed. and it's really unfortunate. >> as with almost any famous tragic event, conspiracy theories have sprouted up regarding the shooting. john lennon. the prevailing scenario has mark david chapman as a patsy, programmed by mysterious government operatives to kill lennon. there was absolutely no evidence that he was assisted or aids by another person. he was simply someone who acted alone without assistance of other people.

>> i've been through every fbi document in john's file. there's not one shred of evidence to suggest that the u.s. government had the least interest in job john after 1972. >> what do you make of the conspiracy theories in the last year, cia, mind control, et cetera? >> against john lennon? >> yeah. >> hog wash. >> no one asked you to do it. no one prompted you to do it, no cabal or nothing? >> no they probably wish they would have had me. but they didn't. this was me doing it. >> more than 30 years after killing john lennon mark chapman remains in prison. he first became eligible for parole in the year 2000. he has been denied at least seven times since then. >> i think it's best for mark chapman to stay in psychiatric care as he is. he committed a heinous act. whether or not he's been treated or cured, i can't tell you. i don't know.

he did something that was horribly wrong. he changed the track in the life of the world, in my opinion. i think he needs to stay where he is. >> this guy murdered him. he shot him in the back which is what people don't realize, he shot him in the back. he's a coward. >> i don't think the killer of john lennon should ever been paroled. the damage that he wreaked on a wife, two sons, beatles fans around the world. i can't imagine there's anything he could do or say that would warrant parole. >> john lennon's widow yoko ono massachusetts repeatedly opposed chapman's release from prison. >> my husband john lennon was a very special man. a man of humble origin. he both liked and helped the whole world with his words and music. he tried to be a good power for the world, and he was.

he gave encouragement, inspiration and dreams to people, regardless of their race, creed and gender. for me, he was the other half of the sky. we were in love with each other at the most deepest of love at the last moment. for our son sean, he was the world. that world shattered when the subject pulled the trigger. for julian. it was losing his father twice. for the people of the world, it was as though the light went out for a moment and darkness prevailed. with this one act of violence, in those few seconds, the subject managed to change my whole life. devastate his sons and bring deep sorrow and tears to the

world. >> in 1985, new york city dedicated an area of central park, directly across from the dakota as strawberry fields, for one of lennon's most famous songs. countries from around the world donated trees. and the imagine mosaic centerpiece was a gift from the city of naples. tangible proof that the legacy of john lennon transcends borders and generations. >> i was walking down the street and i saw a kid probably no older than 16 or 17 wearing a t-shirt with john lennon's face on it. i thought this is really interesting. here he is, he died more than 30 years ago, and for this young person, he still had resonance. >> the best way to remember john lennon is to be inspired by his

optimism, his integrity, his clarity, and his love for his family. family. he was the real deal. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone, live in new york, federal agents are tracing the shotgun used in the maryland mall shooting today. the two people killed at the mall have been identified. police say 21-year-old brianna benlolo and 25-year-old tyler johnson were gunned down by a man in the store where they worked. the shootings happened in a busy section of that mall. >> this was a very scary incident. the chief is going to walk through the details again. it happened on a store on the second floor above the food court. there was a lot of discussion about the food court. there were a