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the british invasion." "ac360 later" starts right now. >> good evening we interview criegh deeds of virginia. and with three years left in his second term will it be president obama's last chance to shape his agenda. and what is it like aboard the nightmare cruise ship where only the germs appear to be going first class? this afternoon i was in richmond, virginia speaking with a father whose face and body bear the marks of a nearly fatal attack that occurred two months ago. criegh deeds was slashed and stabbed and almost killed by his mentally ill son gus who then took his own life. he talked about it on "60
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minutes" but tonight we go indepth. >> people have been so kind to me. they reach out and they don't understand sometimes that i've got to be left alone. because i have to focus on the good things. you know, but these pictures and the facebook page that was set up for gus. there are so many good pictures and so many good memories. that's what i have to focus on. i'm determined that gus not be remembered just for his illness or what ended his life. i mean, that's nothing. he was such a good boy. a good man. he had a good heart. he loved people. >> gus was senator deeds' only son and was loved deeply by a father who tried to do everything he could to get his son the help he needed. but the system, he says, failed his son. he is speak out because he wants you to know about the boy he
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loved and a young man with a bright future, a future taken away by mental illness. early in the morning on november 19th police received a 911 call about a violent attack on state senator criegh deeds. he was stabbed around his head and torso with multiple slashes across his face. the attack happened on deeds' property just outside his home. the assault was shocking enough but the identity of the attacker was beyond comprehension. it was deeds' son, gus, who turned a gun on himself after the attack. >> senator deeds' son, gus deeds, age 24, was found inside the residence suffering from life threatening injuries associated with a gunshot wound. despite efforts a it the residence he died at the scene. >> senator deeds was found by a cousin on the highway in front
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of his home, critically injured, deep in shock, unaware his son was dead. >> with that we work and keep fighting. >> deeds is a democratic politician in virginia. he launched a campaign for governor with his son on the campaign trail with him. gus is the only boy in the family. they lived a seemingly normal, happy life. but at some point in his early 20s, gus began to change. his parents feared he was bi-polar or schizophrenic. a month before the attack, gus dropped out of college. on november 18th of last year, criegh deeds took his son to the hospital for a mental health evaluation. they found gus to be homicidal, suicidal or unable to care for himself. but the hospital had no psychiatric beds available and released him. six hours is the maximum time a person can be held in emergency
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custody without a bed. the next morning gus attacked his father. since the attack three area hospital confirmed they had beds available but no one called them to check. >> criegh deeds still lives at the same house where the attack happened just over two months ago. he is mostly recovered from his injuries show he is visibly scarred and returned to his seat at the state senate with a new purpose, mental health reform in virginia to fix the system that failed him and failed his son. >> that's the motivation for the state senator. and the need for reform extends far beyond virginia. there is so much stigma about mental illness in this country. tonight we want you to hear criegh deeds. we want you to hear about the son that he loved, the son he lost and the pain that too many families face often all alone. >> what do you want people to
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know about gus? >> gus, gus was a sensitive kid. he was sometimes overly sensitive and very -- he was the kind of kid that sometimes kept count of rights and wrongs and who got what. and he was very conscious of that growing up. but he blossomed as a teenager. and then he was 20 and the campaign didn't work out, gus was kind of just astray. he said i'll sit out a semester of school. his mother called me one morning and said i have nothing but a note on the table from gus saying i'm taking a ride and she got a text of a road sign in wyoming. he came back and -- a little bit change -- significantly change bud he came back with a renewed commitment to faith. i mean, it wouldn't be too much to say that he was probably over
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the top with it. in many respects. >> was that the first indication to you that there was something wrong? >> i didn't really know that anything was wrong. it's easy to react to something like that and say something is wrong with him. but my children had been raised in church and faith. he came back with a renewed religious interest. i thought it was a little bit strange considering past conversations with gus that he was that almost fanatical. you know, he was distant. he started making knives out of scrap metal. i think his mother had him -- in october of 2010, or late september had him in a halfway house in charlottesville. and he was there for a week or two and he came back and we got him washing dishes. this kid with unlimited will
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intellectual capacity was doing menial work. >> he was adrift. >> he came to live with me twice in the summer of 2011. he said things that made me -- he said -- he -- admitted that he was considering killing himself. and so i didn't take that lightly. >> for a parent that's a -- >> that's devastating. you can just imagine. gus, who is just -- he had unlimited ability. and it was just every day for the last few years has been just very tough. >> it's also -- i mean, it's terrifying for a parent to see things in your child at that age, especially a child so accomplished. >> and the thing is once they're 18 you lose a lot of control out there. >> you didn't know anything he had been diagnosed with because of privacy laws. >> i never had access to any of that. after he came to live with me, when he admitted suicidal
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thoughts twice. i went to magistrate twice and had him committed. i was the bad guy but i kept him alive. >> did you suspect he was perhaps schizophrenic? >> in the reading i have done i'm convince head was schizophrenic. i'm not a professional in the health care field but i don't know. what i have read i think he -- >> it's the age that people start to exhibit signs of it. >> he went back to school and was dean's list again. fall of 2012 and spring of 2013. when he came home i was worried he was not taking his medicine. >> his thoughts were racing? >> he was just a little more distant and a little less open. and then in early october, he started posting things on facebook about the teachers or
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the professors combining forces or consolidating -- you know -- >> plotting against him. >> yeah, yeah. and i just sent him a message on facebook. i said, gus, what's going on? is there anything i can do to help? he said this will pass, don't worry. the next day he called me and wanted to come home. >> it's interesting my brother did the same thing. one day he called my mom and was like i want to come home. and when i heard that i was terrified. >> i got on the phone with a friend of mine who is a psychologist and i said gus, you and i need to work on our communication skills. we need to work on our relationship. and we need to sit down with this lady. >> you were hoping by involving yourself in it that that would get him to be able to talk to a psychologist? >> absolutely. and we went and talked and spent an hour with her. and you know, later on, that was
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like a saturday morning. later on she called me and said, you know, gus is delusional, i'm really worried. and on the 1st of november i went to ireland. he never responded to an e-mail or picked up the phone when i called him. his delusions had taken over. and his attitude changed. >> would he express the delusions? >> well, he was just -- just of grandeur, almost that he was a demigod, and i was a slave. >> people have delusions in different ways and his had religious -- >> it did. i looked in his book and saw things that concerned me. and that he was looking around -- to be concerned about guns. >> and a journal he had been
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keeping? >> yeah, a journal. and the next morning, the monday, the 18th when i got to work, i called after they were open, i called the csb. i talked to a fella there and i explained the problem and he said you need to get to the magistrate and get an eco -- >> that is? >> emergency custody order. >> my concern about that is that he is only held for 48 or 72 hours and he comes home and i have the same problem again. and this guy said don't worry. we'll try to work with you to get a long-term placement at western state. that cuts to the core when you hear your son might need to be hospitalized long term. at least he would be alive. when there is life, there's hope. i went to the magistrate and got the thing issued, the eco. i went to the house and i sat
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with gus. he was sitting in the living room playing the banjo. i sat with gus playing the banjo. the deputy sheriffs came 20 minutes later. they picked gus up -- >> was he angry about that? >> he was surprised. he was frustrated. and i -- i could -- as the day wore on i knew that he was upset. the csb worker was to -- you know, he didn't think gus was suicidal. he's trained in those things. i'm not. his plan -- he said they had space for gus at this crossroads halfway house, crisis intervention in charlottesville but they were concerned about his behavior. he needed to be more stable and thought he would be more stable in the morning. the plan was to take him the next morning to the halfway house. >> he was very agitated? >> he didn't sit down all
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afternoon. he would pace the floor. he would stop and hold his chin in his hand. and look at me and smile. just this closed lip smile and pace some more. and pace a little while and look at me again. and as the time slipped away, i -- i knew there would be a confrontation. i had no idea it would be violent. i had no reason -- i mean, gus and i -- had no reason to think there would be violence. >> csb where they took his son was a community services board. when we come back senator deeds talks about the attack. >> when he turned around i could see he had something in his hand coming at me. i couldn't tell -- i thought it was a screw driver. i had no idea what it was. he just kept coming at me with stuff. i said what's going on? and you know, i said, gus, i love you so much, don't make
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before the break we were talking to virginia state senator criegh deeds about the son that he loved and the help he tried to get for gus. and in part two of our conversation he describes what happened next. >> when he came home with you that night knight? >> that night, i stopped for gas. and i said -- bud, i'm going to get something to drink, a bottle of pop and a candy bar. can i get you anything? he liked coke and he liked -- he wanted a snickers bar. and down the road i thought we don't really have anything to eat at the house. why don't i stop and get a sandwich. i thought if i could get him in the restaurant that would defuse the situation and allow us time to talk. but he didn't want to come in the restaurant. i got a sandwich and he ate a lot of it on the way home. when we got home, i sat at one
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end of the dining room table and he sat at the other end. i ate my sandwich and he was writing furiously in his journal. when i ate my sandwich i said night, bud. and he was still writing away. and the next morning, gus was stronger than me. you know, he's better looking, stronger and smarter. he is everything you would want in a son. and if gus were rested and had his heart 100% into something you know -- i would have been toast. >> he could have killed you? >> he could have killed me, yeah, no question. >> if that what he wanted to do. >> he had that gun and he could have shot me across the yard if he wanted to. so the next morning, you know, i got up and as i said i was a
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little nervous because i knew the job of taking him to lexington was going to be tough and i knew there was going to be some confrontation. i didn't think there would be any violence. i knew there would be discussion. i got ready and went out to the barn to take care of feeding the equine. i had a big feed tray in my hand for a thoroughbred that belongs to my oldest girl and he was coming across the yard and i said hey, bud, how'd you sleep? and he said fine. i turned my back and i took it twice in the back. >> he stabbed you twice in the back? >> did you know what was happening? >> no idea. when i turned around i could see he had something in his hand that was coming at me. but i didn't really -- i had no idea -- it was in his left hand.
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i couldn't tell -- you know, i thought it was a screwdriver. i had no idea what it was. and he just kept coming at me with stuff. i said what's going on? i said, gus, i love you so much, don't make this any worse than it is. he just kept stabbing. and i think he either knew hi was disabled enough that i couldn't interfere with what else he wanted to do. he decided at some point after i said i loved him that i don't need to die after all or he thought from the amount of blood that he'd already done some damage. and the first -- the first blow to my back was pretty -- you know, pretty close to a spot where he could have drawn a lot of blood. and the second one punctured a lung. it's possible -- but i don't -- there was a good bit of blood. but i like to think that gus at
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some point in that attack the old gus came back. i like to think that or believe that. >> because he certainly wasn't himself when he started. >> no, he wasn't himself. >> that's not your son. >> no. whatever took my son -- well, you know, the bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia or whatever mental illness there was that took my son and worsened in the last few months. he was on medication and wasn't keepi keeping appointments and there was nothing more i could do. i had taken him to the -- it's not like he's my son so i can automatically enroll him in a hospital somewhere. he's an adult. everything i had done the day before, you know, we tried and had been rejected. my son was allowed to suffer and --
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>> and he was suffering for a long time. >> he was suffering for a long, long time. at least he's at peace now. but it's a price to pay. >> so, you know, i always feel like if somebody has cancer or suffering from cancer or somebody is suffering from, you know, leukemia -- >> that's it. >> -- people get help. >> there is a disparity in this country between mental illness and what we consider a physical illness. physical illness we treat and mental illness we sweep under the rug. >> people don't talk about it. >> they are embarrassed about it. people who are mentally ill, they don't want to be considered ill. people with mental illness in their family want to look the other way and pretend it will go away. people -- a lot of people in my
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own situation would say, well, gus will grow out of it. it will work out just fine. gus will be all right. because he had so much ability. but you know, the problem is that there is -- you know, he wouldn't -- he needed treatment -- he needed medication. >> it's also -- it seems like seen as a defect as opposed to something has taken your son. people don't view cancer as oh, that person is guilty they have done something wrong or are weak but with mental illness there is still that belief. >> there is. and that's -- that's just -- it's too bad. gus had -- >> to me, the strength of someone who is fighting mental illness. the strength to just get through a day is extraordinary. >> and he -- he had such talent. he -- and such good -- such love inside him that this illness was
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nothing voluntary. it wasn't like he did something to deserve this sort of condition. and as a society we need to genuinely look at the way we treat mental illnesses because it's in my view one of the great problems of our age, the inequity between the way we treat physical illnesses and the way we treat mental illnesses. i read that mental illness is a physical illness. it's a chemical imbalance in the brain. mental illness is a physical illness. >> after the attack, how did you hear about what happened to gus? >> see, gus was in the -- was just slashing away, i mean -- and i -- you know -- and so -- he just turned around and i think he thought that i was bleeding enough. i don't know.
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and so i staggered through the barn along the top of -- along a ridge, climbed a gate because i just -- i didn't have much -- and i still don't have much strength in my right side. my arm was pretty much disabled. i didn't open the gate. i climbed it and staggered out to this road. my cousin was taking hunters back to the national forest and he saw me coming through the field bloody. and he got his hunters out of the truck, put me in and took me up to his house. his wife is a nurse at the university of virginia hospital. they got a rescue squad and helicopter and -- and with instructions for me to go to the hospital. in the rescue squad i heard a scanner report there was a second victim with a gunshot wound the head. at that point i was -- i was
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worried about gus. when i got -- when my cousin took me to his house and the trooper said he was going down to the house. i told him that's where i thought gus was going back to. i said, please don't hurt him. you know, honestly, i didn't know even at that time that gus was trying to kill me. i didn't want to think that. and i certainly didn't think he was going to hurt himself. i said, please don't hurt him. and when i heard that on the scanner, you know, i worried -- i was worried about gus but i knew there weren't any bullets in the house. there was no ammunition for that .22 rifle in the house that i was aware of. so i didn't think it was possible for it to be gus. um, so, when i woke up, they got eva and surgery and stuff and the next afternoon when i woke up and i got that thing out of
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my mouth i asked, gus? and i was told then what had happened. think that is so horrible about suicide at least for me, i often get stuck thinking in my case how my brother ended his life as opposed to how he lived his life. i'm wondering if you -- do you think about that? >> i do. and you know, people have been so kind to me and they reach out. and you know, they don't understand sometimes that i just have got to be left alone. i have to focus on the good things. but -- these pictures and the facebook page that was set up for gus. you know, there are so many good pictures and so many good memories and that's what i have to focus on. and i'm determined that gus not be remembered just for his
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illness or what ended his life. i mean, that's nothing. he was such a good boy. a good man. he had a good heart. he loved people. gus, i ran for state office twice and neither time i won but gus was a constant on both those campaigns. he nicknamed all the kids they worked for me. they loved him. he would entertain them with the banjo or harmonica. and you know, he nicknamed all the cats. you know, we have a barn -- there are a lot of cats that come in there. and you know, i've been known to not turn them away. and gus loved the cats too and dogs. we had just about every kind of animals. gus named the animals and nicknamed people. he was so full of love.
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i don't remember determined he not be remembered by the end of his life. he was an unbelievable guy. he could sing and dance. he should shake his booty like no one else and would entertain people with just his dancing as a young man. and as a -- when he was in high school he got the spirit award and for a couple of times and he was -- he was a senior -- he was valedictorian of his high school. gus was something special. all my children are. >> for me, it was a long time before i was able to talk about my brother. the fact you are able to talk about him is nice. >> got no choice. life goes on. now there is a little bit of focus on mental illness. if we can make a change that's going to save lives we have to do it. you know, i got no choice. and besides that, you know, i've got to work. i've got to keep going.
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you know, life is short. >> the only way to break the stigma of mental illness is to break the silence that is often around it. as painful as is it to talk about his son, we want to thank him and hope it affects the needed change. among the thing that the state senator is trying to do for the commonwealth is to extend the period of time that families can keep someone under observation and he wants a database so that if someone is taken to a hospital and is in need of hospitalization, health workers can look online and find out what beds are available. right now the health workers have to call around to different facilities. it's like something out of the 1950s. the state senator was told there was not a bed available for his
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son. but it seems there were at least three beds available in the commonwealth of virginia that day. we'll be right back. i know i'm making the right choice. online or on the phone, we help you hire right the first time. with honest reviews on over 720 local services. keeping up with these two is more than a full time job, and i don't have time for unreliable companies. angie's list definitely saves me time and money. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today.
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welcome back. we are going to be here tomorrow in washington for president obama's state of the union address. here are behind the scenes pictures. the president meeting with advisers getting ready for the speech. the president may have tough words for congress tomorrow night. what have your sources been telling you? >> that's right. they are working on the speech. he will have tough words for congress. he will issue a challenge to lawmakers that say if you are
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not willing to work with me i'm going to work around you. he will announce a series of executive actions he plans to take over the coming year. but the officials say that the president will call on congress to pass a few legislative items on the list, namely immigration reform and boosting the minimum wage. but there are two basic reasons for this. last year congress did not move much on his legislative agenda. remember gun control. and the other part is political. you have democrats and republicans a lot running scared this year because they are running for re-election and they don't want to cast votes that may come back to haunt them. officials say more than you have heard the president more than ever before in state of the unions he will be talking about executive actions tomorrow night. >> is there a theme for the speech tomorrow? >> they are talking about expanding opportunity. they are talking about jobs. they are talking about the
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economy. it will be focused on domestic items. and you have heard the president talk about how he wants to combat income inequality. he mentioned this in a vine video today. the words are changing a little bit here at the white house. they are talking more about expanding opportunity for all americans. but you going to hear the president outlining solutions tomorrow night aimed at this issue of income inequality. and some of the executive actions will be on job training and retirement security. but there is a risk in all of this. i was talking to a presidential historian about this today. there is a risk if you call for a year of action and there is not much action at least in the minds of the american people by midway this year people may start tuning out and looking at 2016. there is a lot at stake for the president. >> thanks very much. the coverage for the state of the union address starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern on cnn.
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the olympic flame approved in dagestan under tight security. the threat coming on top of a string of prior warnings promising more bloodshed and attacks like the one in volgograd. and american athletes have been warned against wearing mare uniforms outside olympic venues. as for the families some will go and some will not. the wife of a cross country skier was planning to attend the games and bring her six-year-old daughter. >> we were on board but then we continued to talk about what our plans were and where we were going to stay and i could just tell by the look on his face and just his reaction and finally said is it going to stress you out for us being there and he said yes. >> joining us more is nick paton
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walsh. the latest terror threat made reference to the volgograd attacks. what more do we know about it? >> the video out of dagestan were behind this online warning and the reason that people are taking it seriously is it's the same group that claimed responsibility for the two suicide bombings in volgograd late last year and showing the men who most likely carried out the attack themselves. the warning is lengthy and rambling and not specific in mentioning the olympics at all. the title is russia has been warned. it mentioned the volgograd warnings. it targeted that town because of the rite police in dagestan hail from them. it's their response to what militants see as police brutal tactics in dagestan itself. and provides justice in the quran and goes on to say that
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they will punish russia. nothing specific about the games but comes in the frame of the broader threat and warning from the same group that did volgograd. that has people on edge even though this is just online, these people have a track record of bringing them into being. >> the torch came through dagestan. what is the security situation like there? >> well, it was a bizarre event this morning in many ways. the torch relay is supposed to be festive streets lined with people waving flags. the torch was not seen new mexico it arrived at a maximum security arena and the spectators were bussed in separately on roads that were shut down, lined with police. police check points across the
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city. normal people inside the capital of where i am, the province not involved at all. the torch went straight into the stadium. there was a loud and festive display there where people stood in the rain. some said thousands attending that event. but the key signal was the kremlin's defiance of what they see as a terror threat down here. and despite knowing there is a risk they wanted that event to go ahead to show their ability to secure this area and the defiance of the threats they have been hearing. >> nick, i appreciate the update. joining me is new york republican congressman peter king. i know you have said you can't guarantee 100% safety for u.s. athletes. beyond that, though you are on the intelligence committee, how concerned are you about the threats? how real do you think they are? >> i have real concerns. this is a very deadly area. and my main reason for concern
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is that the russians have not been cooperating as far as sharing intelligence and going back to previous olympics the greeks did in 2004, the chinese did in 2008. >> is that because they were afraid of revealing sources or methods or losing face? >> they are afraid of losing sources and methods. that's number one. number two there is that pride that putin has of not wanting to admit he needs help from the outside. >> mike mccall had said that if the threats continued to increase, perhaps there should be talks of canceling the game do you agree with that? >> i think we should do the best we can and monitor it carefully and do all we can in advance. but there are a lot of factors. there are a lot of immigrant workers in the area, primarily muslims who have been treated badly by the russians.
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they are people who are on ferret till ground to be used in the attack and you have these very well organized groups over there. and despite the 50,000 troops that will be there, there will be venues within the olympic site which cannot be fully protected. we have to assume the terrorists know that and they may try to take advantage of that. but i would not say we should consider canceling the events. >> if you were an athlete i would go. >> as a spectator i would no. as an athlete i would. >> would you recommend that? >> if my family and i were given free tickets i would not go. >> you believe the stlet that real? >> it's too much of a risk. odds are there may not be an attack but the odds are higher than any other olympics that there be. >> is your concern an attack in
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sochi itself or somewhere else in russia? we saw attacks in volgograd, in the pipeline of tourists getting to sochi? >> there is a risk outside the olympic venues but also in the area of sochi. there are locations where there are going to be olympic events which i have been told could be vulnerable to terrorist attack. it's too difficult to give them the protection putin is implying. >> if there was an attack would you put part of the blame in the russian authorities? >> at this stage you would have to. from all my understanding until the last several days is we are not getting any intelligence from the russians. it is not being shared and they are refusing to do it. >> peter king, thank you. up next, a nasty sickness strikes a cruise. 600 people fall ill. the suspected culprit, ahead. a deep freeze from minnesota
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after consulting with the cdc they made the decision to bring the "explorer of the seas" back two days early and sanitize the ship. the cause has not been pinpointed for sure. but the symptoms are quiconsist with knnorovirus. >> norovirus is a common gastrointestinal infection. you knew it was unpleasant. the symptoms look like noro virus and the fact that it spread quickly look like norovirus. and an expert says he would not be surprised if it was a new strain called the sydney strain. that might be one of the reasons it spread so quickly. >> i read it can live on
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surfaces of things for days. and that things like alcohol sanitizers don't work that well. >> yeah, this is a weird bug in that way. usually sanitizers work just fine but for this one you want to wash your hands. sanitizer doesn't work that well and it lives for a long time on surfaces. >> and ships are inspected and their scores are on the centers for disease control website. this ship scored well. it could happen on any ship. >> they scored great. they got a 98 on their most recent test. you can have a ship-shape ship but if someone sick walks on the it you could have an outbreak like this. in some ways it doesn't matter how clean it was to start with. >> one person with a norovirus that's how it could be spread? >> it could be just one person. i'm not saying that's what happened here but one person
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could get things going especially if that is a crew member and preparing food. i'm not saying that is what happened here. but if you have a crew member not washing their hands properly, that's a problem. >> what is royal caribbean saying about getting people medical attention and back home? >> royal caribbean is doing several things. they are bringing in additional equipment and personnel. and we just talked to a passenger. she said they made an interesting change. no more buffets. said you -- buffets where everyone is handling the same serving utensil and if you are sick in your room they will bring you ginger ale. >> thanks for the update. susan hendrix is here with the 306 bulletin. >> a big chill has set in across
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much of the south. much of the midwest and northeast is shivering. it will feel like negative 30 in chicago tomorrow when you factor in the wind chill. a "ac360" follow now, the family of marlise munos says she can now rest in peace. state law required her to be on life support since he was product. the mother of a 19-year-old man accused in the bharz mall shooting says she doesn't think her son knew the victims and he was sweet and gentle. police say the man killed two people with a shotgun before shooting himself. the motive is unknown. the faa is ordering inspections of boeing 767 commercial jets. there are to terrible rivet problems that could cause a loss of control in the planes that has not been cited in any 767
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crash but the faa and boeing have been looking into the problem since 2000. the airlines have six years to comply with this. avalanches have cut off the only road in and out of valdez, alaska. the highway will stay closed for about a week. food and fuel can be brought in by barge if it is necessary. >> that's incredible. >> susan, we'll be right back. there's nothing like being your own boss! and my customers are really liking your flat rate shipping. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order. good news. i got a new title. and a raise? management couldn't make that happen. [ male announcer ] introducing fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex. [ male announcer ] introducing fedex one rate. i asked my husband to pay our bill, and he forgot. you have the it card and it's your first time missing a payment, so there's no late fee.
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