>> join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett is back from maternity leave. i hope she has some tips for me. >> i can tell you it will be wonderful. >> erin, are you there? >> i'm here. do you guys have me? oh. well, anyway, obviously that didn't work out perfectly, but it's great to be back. and stephanie's turn is coming soon. we begin out front with breaking news, the fed sending stocks falling. stocks in america are down 800 points for the year and a special guest, jim cramer, will be out front tonight. plus, children stuck sleeping in schools, cars abandoned in dozens on highways, and this in the united states of america. how is one of the biggest cities in the nation blindsided by winter weather? and more breaking news, a new legal crisis for justin bieber. you're looking at a live picture of the police station in toronto where the pop star is expected to turn himself in on it seems maybe new assault charges.

let's go "outfront." and good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. it is great to be back with you tonight. we are following several major breaking news stories tonight, and we want to begin with this. take a look at this image. this image is in the united states of america. a live picture of atlanta, one of the biggest cities in the country, home to the busiest airport in the nation. a city crippled by a few inches of snow. less than three to be exact. the situation is frankly shocking, because when you look at that road, thousands of people trapped in their cars for more than 24 hours. hundreds of students stranded on buses, forced to spend the night overnight in their school. here are the images. i mean, miles and miles, when you look at this, it's incredible. major interstate outside of downtown atlanta is what you're looking at. lots of these cars are now abandoned. people gave up and walked for miles. the stories are hard to imagine

happening, again, in america. mothers stranded in cars with children very small, nothing to eat. shoppers actually forced to spend the night in stores. and as i said, people leaving their cars and walking miles and miles to get home in arctic-level temperatures. it's the ice paralyzing not just atlanta but much of the south. and tonight that major city deserted, a ghost town. and residents are outraged by the government response that came up way too short. martin savage begins our coverage from atlanta. >> reporter: commuters trapped for more than 24 hours. dozens of children stuck on school buses for hours. shoppers spending the night on the floor of a home depot because they couldn't make it home. the city of atlanta in a state of chaos after a mass exodus of more than a million people turning the roads and highways into a parking lot. >> i was super scared. i was like, if i don't get home to my parents, i'm like, i'm going to freak out. >> i was scared i wouldn't see my mom until 7:00 a.m. >> reporter: but could the chaos have all been prevented?

last night the governor of georgia said the state was caught by surprise. >> we have been confronted with an unexpected storm that has hit the metropolitan atlanta area. >> reporter: but today he talked about that statement saying no one could predict the magnitude of the storm. >> the national weather service continually had their modeling showing the city of atlanta would not be the primary area of where the storm would hit. >> reporter: but, in fact, at 4:53 monday morning, the national weather service forecasted between a half inch and two inches of snow across the entire atlanta metro area. then at 3:22 that afternoon, a winter storm warning was issued, and yesterday cnn meteorologist chad myers predicted a couple of inches of snow in atlanta as early as 9:00 a.m. >> for atlanta, it is a devastating two inches of snow. that will literally shut down the city. >> reporter: by 10:00 a.m. yesterday, state employees were told they could go home early, but still, the governor says some things were simply out of

his hands. >> we don't have control over what private businesses do. we don't have control over what school systems do. those are independent calls on their part. >> reporter: by midday yesterday snow was falling and so was the temperature. ice was forming quickly. at 1:45 p.m. atlanta schools announced they were closing. by then, the roads were already in gridlock. the atlanta mayor admits the city's response could have been better, but he refused today to accept full responsibility. >> do you know looking at that interstate that's not the responsibility of the city? and you know it. what you're trying to do is to bait me and upset me. you're not going to do it. >> reporter: erin, this is a perfect example of what a difference one day can make. because this time yesterday traffic bumper to bumper behind us here on this community located right next to the busy airport. now, as we pointed out, it's a ghost town. and speaking of the airport, flights are coming and going,

but it's being operated on a skeleton staff, even finding somebody to operate the jetway to get it to the plane or tsa officials are hard to come by. it has slowed some things down. erin? >> thank you, martin savage. the mayor there of atlanta is "outfront" tonight. it's been a busy time for you. you have your coat on from being outside, but let me ask you, do you know how many people are still trying to get home, stuck on the roads or anything like that, do you know? >> well, we know that it's more than 2,000. and they were on the interstates. and candidly, i'm really shocked that martin didn't show you the fact that 80% of the streets in the city of atlanta have been cleared. and the point that i was making in the segment was that the interstates that you have been showing all day are the responsibility of the state, not the city of atlanta. so i wasn't trying to duck responsibility, but i was pointing out that the images that you have been showing are

of the interstates, which are not the responsibility of the city of atlanta. and then if you were to use cnn cameras, which are available right now, you would see that 80% of the streets in our city are clear, and the city is functioning. that's the image right there. >> so you're saying that the city of atlanta did its job. >> no, i'm saying that we could always get better, but the presentation that was made leading into this interview was grossly misleading and mischaracterized the work that we have been doing over the last 24 hours, it mischaracterizes the fact that we mobilized at 9:00 a.m. on yesterday, and that as of today we had 80% of the streets in the city cleared. and the only name you've ever used is in the city. when in fact, you have been showing photographs of the region. and i think that's unfair. >> all right. okay. i hear your point on that, but mayor, let me ask you this, were you coordinating with the governor, with others? we spoke to someone on the bus

depot today who said she has been stuck there for 24 hours. so there were people right there in the heart of your city who are experiencing something frankly pretty shocking. >> yes, we definitely have been coordinating with the governor, but the fact of the matter is we moved 1 million people out of the city in one someday. we had zero fatalities. we kept all of our hospitals open. we handled 797 automobile accidents. we only had 14 major accidents. and we sheltered 400 kids and got them back to their family today. and none of that was reported. and hartsfield/jackson airport is continuing to operate. now, it's fair to talk about what's on the interstate. and when i leave here, i'm going to help the folks stuck in those cars on the interstate, but i think it would be fair for cnn to point out that i do not have jurisdiction over the highways in the city of atlanta, and i never have. >> i'm happy to point that out,

but obviously the problem seemed to -- we are talking to people at bus depots, schools in atlanta, children had to spend the night, this was something that extended within the city limits and outside of them. and you tweeted yesterday morning, quote, atlanta, we are ready for the snow. for useful numbers and information, make sure you read our press release. >> that's right. and 24 hours -- and 24 hours later -- and 24 hours later, if you put up the images of the city right now, the city after a severe storm weather event is functioning, and 80% of our streets are clear. and zero fatalities occurred. and we handled 797 incidents and got all of the children in the aps school home. so the answer is we can always get better. i certainly want the people who are stranded on the highways and interstates to get home to their families. and that's why i have on my coat, because that's where i've been. i'm going back there when i'm done, but i've sat and watched all day long you all show image

after images of interstates that aren't in the city limits. and aren't the responsibility of the city. and the only name that you all have used all day long is the city of atlanta. when you could have easily put up your cameras and shown the images of our city. with the streets being improved and the city moving. >> and let me ask you, just a question then before we go on that front, because a lot of people who live in your city and use your city use the interstates. so to them, all those things are tied together, right? you don't know when you cross the city line, so is it the governor's fault that the interstates have created this horrible image and horrible experience? >> erin, rather than playing the blame game, we have shared responsibility. but i want to state clearly, i don't have jurisdiction to clear interstate highways in the city of atlanta. i'm responsible for the streets that are in the city of atlanta. and as of today, one day in to a severe weather event, we got our streets cleaned, we kept our

hospitals open, we kept our people safe, and the city of atlanta is running again. >> all right. thank you very much, mayor reed, we appreciate you coming on to give your side of that story. we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me, erin. welcome back. >> thank you. well, next, several republicans had a lot to say after president obama's state of the union address. if you watched, you had to stay up for a while because it was republican after republican after republican after, whoa, what's wrong? then we'll talk to a man one of nearly 700 people who was violently sick. he describes it on the royal caribbean cruise ship explorer of the seas. then a new york congressman forced to apologize for threatening a reporter. >> let me be clear to you, you ever do that to me again i'll throw you off this [ bleep ] balcony. ♪ [ male announcer ] what kind of energy is so abundant,

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today president obama kept his controversial state of the union promise. and if you with respect watching, the promise is he's going to bypass congress because they couldn't get anything done and he would sign executive orders. so today he allowed workers to start their own retirement savings plans. now, as you would expect, republicans are really angry about this. senator ted cruz wrote an op-ed entitled the imperial presidency of barack obama which reads, none is more dangerous than the president's persistence pattern of lawlessness, his willingness to disregard the written law and instead enforce his own policies via executive fiat. imperial? lawless? fiat?

joining me is reince priebus tonight. is that way too strong? >> first of all, welcome back, and blessings on the new baby boy. that's exciting. having two of my own, i know how great it is to be a parent, so congratulations. >> well, thanks. >> i think ted cruz has got a point. here's the thing, this president last night really offered nothing up other than old crumbs and old silverwear and old dishes. it was just the same old thing, but here's what i take on this sort of go-it-alone strategy. if you really peel back the onion, he made two big promises in regard to this new strategy. the first one was, he was going to cut the red tape on bridges and waterways. red tape is not the problem, erin, the problem is there's no money. the next thing he said he's going to increase the wages of federal contractors to $10.10 an hour. almost all of them make more than $10.10 an hour.

but number two, his program wouldn't take effect until 2015. and it wouldn't apply to any current contracts. it's just all -- it's a nothing burger. this whole thing is nothing. and actually, it's pretty sad because the state of the union should be a big day, but it was a big nothing. >> that's interesting, so you're making the case that the things that he's doing aren't really that important. it doesn't -- you're not actually picking a fight with him for doing it, which is actually pretty smart of you because i'm sure you looked at the stats, too. the president signed 167 executive orders, far fewer than any other two-term president at this point. president george w. bush, 197, president ronald reagan, 256. if he's imperial -- >> but to ted cruz's point, i support what ted cruz is saying. to his point, he's done things in the past that have fundamentally altered bills, like look at the obamacare bill. the fact that he and his administration gave a waiver to employers has created complete

catastrophe on just the way that obamacare can be enforced and the way the act wares thought it would work. so he's not just doing little thing that is are meaningless and trying to tell the american people they are really important, he's also doing big things that he shouldn't be able to do that i think are problematic. so you get both. >> so i was watching last night, and it's interesting what you say, i know you're job as head of the rnc is to not say anything bad about anybody, in particular, in your party, but after the speech i have to admit i got a little confused. i was like, maybe it's because i've been away, but the gop rebuttals, i use the plurals, there were four. catry mcmorris gave the official response. then the spanish language response, the tea party response and the rand paul response. i'm just going to call it rand paul response. that does not seem like a big time party. that seems like a party who doesn't know who in the heck is in charge, it seems leaderless. >> i think that's a pretty silly comment.

i know it's your first day back. >> tell me why i'm silly. >> because there were probably 300 responses yesterday. every member of congress, when you say rand paul gave a response, i would imagine almost every senator gave some kind of response yesterday. i gave a response yesterday. you didn't put my name in there. i know that our studio where i'm talking to you was busy all day yesterday with different members and senators giving responses to the state of the union address. so, i mean, look, the tea party express running their website gave a response, and mike lee was gracious enough to give that response. my guess is that you have all kinds of groups on both sides of the aisle that have guessed responders on their show as part of their -- part of their production. you have responses on cnn after the show. i mean, this is just -- it's ridiculous. >> but doesn't a party usually come up with one -- >> kathy mcmorris rogers was the responder, and she gave the official response. >> official response and then there's all the other splinters.

i'm not the only one -- i'm not alone. >> every member of congress is in the studio giving a response. rand paul was not the only senator giving a response. >> i hear your point, but they said conservatives are competing for air time. >> i don't care how he framed it. i'm just telling you what the truth is. >> and i hear your point, but what he said was the latest flare-up of the latest gop civil war was not about itology, it was about publicity. it does fan the flame that the party doesn't have a voice. you're saying one person put out a response, but clearly there's not a lot of people behind her. there's a lot of people fighting to say the gop is this or it's that. if you have a fight on, how do you win the white snous. >> i don't think there's a whole lot of people that are tuned in to anything to that magnitude. i think what you have in politics and in this country are people that are tuning in to different channels and different voices that they want to hear. i think it's great that mike lee did the response on the tea party express website.

you know what he talked about? he talked about republican ideas and how this president wasn't fulfilling the promises that he made to the american people. that's a net win for the republican party. i don't see it as a loss at all. i think that we need to build our party by promoting different voices in our party so that we can come together and win. and you know what? with all these red states coming up in the senate race where is the path is at a 30% approval rating, we'll have an incredible year this year. >> we'll be talking to you throughout. thank you, reince, as always. >> okay, erin. welcome back. it's two tough interviews in a row. got to keep this up. good to see you. "outfront" next, a cruise ship full of sick passengers returns to port late this afternoon. we'll talk to one of the passengers who was violently ill. and we'll talk to justin bieber tonight. a live picture from toronto. you can see the stakeout, because he is, after all, justin bieber, moments away from vending to police to face

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you have been sick, and i know you are better, which is great to hear, but can you tell me what it was like when you got sick and how it actually went down? >> well, it's -- erin, it's a very -- it's a violent bug. i don't know if i've ever been sicker. it hits hard, it hits very quickly, and it lasted really intensely for a couple of days. and it leaves you a little weak after the fact. it drains you. >> and i think people might think, oh, it's just like getting the throw-ups or something like that, but it is more severe than that. how did they handle this on the ship when you had so many people getting sick, hundreds? >> yeah, it -- it started rather slowly, and then the numbers started to grow exponentially. the first day that i got really sick, and i went down to sick call, there was 50, 60 people waiting. i was given a number. my number was 139. so i went back to my room, and

that's when the numbers were really starting to escalate pretty dramatically. and a lot of people on the ship got sick. you know, the other thing that occurred was a number of people got ill, but they self-medicated with i mmodium, and they didn't go to sick call, so i'm hearing those stories as well. >> louis, i'm just wondering, you are going on a cruise looking for a break, and royal caribbean is saying they are going to make this up to you. i'm curious about what they said, a 50% refund, not 100%, then the other 50% is in the form of a credit for a future cruise. so you have to go on another cruise to get it. are you satisfied with that? are you ever going to go on another cruise? >> well, to be fair, we've gone with royal caribbean on four other occasions, and this has been our first really bad experience. i think they did what they could. to the captain's credit, he

stood up in front of everybody in an auditorium when they canceled the last stop at st. martin's, and for two hours he listened to what people had to say. and quite frankly, a lot of people understandably were very, very honory. and you can appreciate they would be. >> louis, thank you very much. we appreciate it. of course, enjoy getting home where it's warm and you can feel better. >> will do that. thank you, erin. and that does bring me to tonight's outtake. this incident is the worst in decades, but there have been 33 verified norovirus outbreaks in the past three years. this is just printe paper, but it is 267 pages long. it has that many pages. if you need that many pages to keep your ship clean -- well, look, it could have been worse. remember when everyone now calls the pop cruise?

i sure do. >> those are the red bags, and those were for using the bathroom, doing number two. >> we couldn't flush toilets, the hallways were toxic, full of urine. >> the smell was unbelievable. >> i have to admit, you can smell it. you can smell it. i know you were wondering if we can, and yes. ah, what a memory. at least the explorer of the seas had power. and if you're feeling sick to your stomach, imagine going on a cruise now, think of the people booked on the explorer of the seas next voyage. royal caribbean promises it will be clean. if not, there's always a red bag. well, stocks took a major dive after an announcement from the fed. my buddy, jim cramer, of "mad money" is here to talk markets, investments and this. >> it's a bear. >> are you jealous? >> i'm speaking in your mike,

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breaking news on a story that everyone has been watching, whether they admit it or not, justin bieber just turned himself into toronto police to face a possible assault charge in connection with a limousine driver. this may be new to some of you, but this was about a month ago. an alleged assault again of a limousine driver and now he's apparently voluntary come to toronto to turn himself into police there. susan candiotti is following the latest on justin bieber. susan, what do you know about this latest incident, and i say latest because obviously there have been several, even in the past couple of weeks? >> he appears to be in trouble yet again, hi, erin. welcome back. hopefully we can re-rack that as soon as possible. we see him getting out of the suv with an entourage. as you can see, a ton of people on site. the police and many fans and of course the news media are all there to see himself turn himself in. a law enforcement source says

this is in connection with an investigation of an assault of a limo driver that happened just last month. the cbc said it happened outside a mapleleafs game when this attack occurred, but i'm told that this was all prearranged. his lawyer was in touch with the toronto police, and they made the arrangement to come in and to turn himself in for justin bieber to turn himself in. and i'm also told that this could very well result in an arrest charge involving this incident. so, it was just last week, you will remember, in miami beach, when justin bieber was charged with driving under the influence. there's the video now, you can see all kinds of cameras flashing and video cameras as well. fans trying to get a look at him as well. a heavy police presence on site. as you can see, he's got on a blue cap, a baseball cap turned backwards if you can sort of make him out in the crowd there, but that's him entering the police department.

no telling how long he'll be in there, but again, just last week in miami, more troubles on top of this one. tonight he entered a not guilty plea in writing via his lawyer in miami beach to a charge, remember, he was said to be drag racing on miami beach in a residential area. charged with driving under the influence. he told police, they said, that he had been drinking beer and that he had been taking prescription medications. he told police given to him by his mother as well as driving without a license. so he will have an appearance on valentine's day, but he does not have to be there in person for it for an arraignment there in miami-dade county, florida. and now that was last week, this week we see this. erin, earlier in the week we saw him on video in panama walking on the beach with his friends and bodyguards and the like. and now he's in toronto tonight. busy time for the biebster.

>> it's amazing, whether people want to admit it or not, they are following this. it's a tragic tale n many ways, of the creation of a child star and how far people can fall. we'll have much more on this in a few moments as we continue to cover this. by the way, we saw a famous person that had problems with substance abuse and had a very public fall. we'll talk about that in a moment. the markets plunge, this affects all of us. stocks plunge, down nearly 200 points. the fed did, should have done, but at least was expected to do, which was reduce how much money it's been pumping into the economy, into the stock market. and now to break this down, joining me now is my friend and former colleague, jim cramer, author of the new book "jim cramer's get rich carefully." all right, jim, it is wonderful to have you with us. so special. i come back and have you, it is just a dream come true. all right, so tell me what you think about the fed. before we get to your expertise on the fed, just today, are they

doing the right thing by saying we are not going to keep throwing free money at the u.s. economy? >> yes, i think things are better, erin. they are slightly better, they are not fantastic, but they are cutting back on the program because the patient was on life support. so why continue to keep that person on life support? the economy is getting moving here, so i think the fed is doing the right thing. >> you believe the economy is getting moving? last night you heard the president say, corporate profits are rising but no wages. it was kind of negative view of the situation. >> more negative than -- yes, to editorialize, more negative than it should be because there's lots of things going right. he mentioned energy something that's good, but the industries that i talk to and you know the work we did together when you were at cnbc, the industries i talk to are all feeling better, they are all saying things are growing overseas, getting better in the united states, not a time to be downbeat. >> speaking of our time together, you write about this in the book, and if you out there don't know this, there's an infamous moment of jim cramer, an incredible moment of

august 2007, everyone, this is right before the proverbial brown stuff hit the fan. and at that time, a lot of people didn't think it was going to. and people said things are going to be fine, but not jim. here's the moment. >> he has no idea! >> cramer -- >> i've talked to the heads of almost every single one of these firms in the last 72 hours and he has no idea what it's like out there! none! and bill poole has no idea what it's like out there! my people have been in this game for 25 years! and they are losing their jobs, and these firms are going to go out of business and he's nuts! they are nuts! they know nothing! >> cramer -- >> this is a different kind of market. and the fed isasleep. bill poole is a shame. he's shameful! >> and we laugh that now. and then, you became the punch line, the ped laughed at you, so much so you questioned yourself, but it turned out you were right. >> there was a meeting, first of all, you were the one who kept

telling me about subprime, that the mortgages were going to run over. >> the people who didn't have good credit. >> the only place i could be myself was when i was with you, and yes, that was myself. we were trying to warning people. the fed did laugh. there was a laugh line about me in the minutes that came out, bernanke and bill poole was one of the fed heads saying kramer didn't know what he was doing, but -- >> i was your biggest fan after that. >> they did say we got it right, erin. we got it right. >> you got it right. and you have been vindicated over time. i want to get advice from you just because you're here. facebook came out with earnings today, a name you said you liked, but apple, we talk about it a lot on the show. i want to get you view and what to do with it. they came out and things were not good for apple. you write that apple actually had a failure. not a word usually associated with apple, they didn't get social media. if you're watching and saying you're going to get into jim's view and buy him something, what do you do with tech?

>> i think social mobile in cloud, facebook, which is google, those are the companies that have momentum. because that's the future. apple, i think, is fine, it's come down so much. you know i would never tell people to sell something after it just shed 60 points. >> but it's not the future in the way that you used to think of it. >> no. because it's a different person's generation. and the generation that is on instagram, facebook, on twitter, these are people who -- this is who the big ceos want to reach. i talked to buffalo wild rings today, they want to reach the facebook and twitter generation. they place ads there. >> right. now the president said something else last night and said minimum wage, $10.10. reince priebus just pointed out the executive order of raising it for people who make more than that, but i don't believe the president wants the minimum wage to go up, he does believe it. if he got what he wanted, what would happen? >> i don't think anyone would not start a business because of that, but i also think that there will be someone who might say, if i start building my

business up, i see there's a pattern, the federal government is going to make me pay more for health care for these people, more salary, and that creates a bit of a cloud. but i don't think that it's wrong to have a higher minimum wage because wage growth has been so stagnant for too many years in this country. >> before we go, i want to play for everyone, a couple quick moments, here they are. >> cramer, cramer, get back here. >> it's a bear! are you jealous? >> i'm speaking in your mike, i'm not trying to do more than that. >> are you jealous, crime her? >> no, yes! no! i don't know! that's like genocide. >> it is camelcide. >> i think it's a disturbing story. yeah, that's pretty much what you do. >> we are snapping our heads, what are we doing? with like, you know, no country for old men. >> everyone here in petra today was looking for opportunity, so perhaps this should not surprise you that i ran into --

>> hey, gorgeous. how you doing? >> how are you? >> can you believe it? >> before we go, jim, i must say, i haven't worn it since, the giraffe dress, everyone, possibly the most ugly dress worn in america or anyone around the world and unfortunately made infamous, here it is. i think it hit the dry cleaner but that's about it. >> i love you. i miss you so much, it's terrible. i know we don't work -- we don't work at the same network anymore, and i was choked up when i saw you say good-bye, i have seen you since then, but i want to wish you the best wishes to your family, to your newborn, and to everything that you do in your life and to your husband. you're just fabulous. >> thank you. i feel the same way about you. we are thrilled you could come here. jim's book "get rich quickly" is number one in the management section on amazon. get your copy. more on the breaking news we are covering as this is developing right now, justin

bieber just turning himself into toronto police on assault charges on account with a limo driver a month ago. we have the latest on that with another famous person with a big fall from grace. [ intercom ] drivers, to your marks. go! [ male announcer ] it's chaos out there. but the m-class sees in your blind spot... ♪ pulls you back into your lane... ♪ even brakes all by itself. it's almost like it couldn't crash... even if it tried. the 2014 m-class. see your authorized dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services.

breaking news, justin bieber now facing charges on both sides of the border. the pop star just turning himself moments ago to police in toronto facing a charge he

allegedly attacked a limo driver. >> did you attack the limo driver? >> hey, justin! oh! >> back up! back up! the news coming as we are learning that bieber just pleaded not guilty to last week's charges of driving drunk, resisting arrest and driving without a license in miami, florida. jim morray and patrick kennedy are here, vocal with his substance abuse problems. you went public knowing everyone is talking about you, but jim, let me start with you, how serious is the assault charge that bieber is facing? we'll add up, and go through those, this is a long list. what specifically does this carry with it? >> first of all, let me welcome you back. i was on your show last week and sad you weren't here. look, this particular limousine driver was not taken to the hospital, so you wonder how

serious this assault was. but an assault is still a more serious charge, and you talked about both sides of the border, you talk about toronto and florida, he may also face charges in los angeles and those are felony vandalism charges. when you add up all three and take into consideration there are over 100,000 signatures on a petition to deport him from the united states, these in total, these are very serious for justin bieber because even on demeanor charges, they carry six or seven months, you add them all up and he's got three different jurisdictions going on here. so it's a big deal. >> and you're saying, these signatures, 100,000 signatures, saying he should deport, i don't know what it is at the latest, but that's a number that forces the white house to respond, which in and of itself is utterly ridiculous, and maybe it is, but the point is you're saying it's deadly serious. >> it is deadly serious. it's serious. look, he apparently, for whatever reason, is looking at his reputation as being boosted

in some form because he's got street cred. however, from a legal perspective and overall perspective, he's hanging out with his dad who was at the scene in florida when he was allegedly driving without a license and under the influence. there are questions about where he got the prescription drugs. he doesn't have an influence in his life steering him in the right direction. and what do we see? in three weeks he could be facing three charges in three different jurisdictions all going down. and we've seen this before, erin, with other celebrities. and it's never a good ending. >> in fact, you have been through this, when it starts to spiral it spirals. is that what you're seeing sneer. >> well, what you're seeing is someone who's dealing with a negative effects of drug and alcohol use. and he's 19 years old. and he kind of feels immune from all of this because he has this codra of people enabling him. and just as you just heard, this is looked upon as a legal issue or a p.r. issue.

really, it's a physical health issue. i mean, just eluding to the fact that a number of celebrities, in fact, a number of americans who die fatal deaths because of this use of drugs and alcohol, which leads i'm very familiar with this. i lived that life. the biggest challenge is that justin bieber is not going to be able to see what's really going on because there's going to be a lot of people couching. a lot of people out there say who cares? he's wealthy, he's a celebrity and all the rest. he's like any other person that goes through this. >> you're saying probably no one at this point is telling him the truth. his father certainly seems to be saying hey all you people are a bunch of jerks. >> he's like any other 19-year-old. but what's happening to him now is he's really being protected from himself. so the opportunity for him to progress in a potential addiction, which is certainly

the case if he's exposed to this many drugs and the excitement and this kind of life. and without any kind of sanction. in other words, he gets more publicity, this reinforces the behavior. and of course he'll keep doing it. >> you look like the cool bad kid. go from being the kid to the cool kid. >> you don't know when that fatal overdose is going to happen or that tragedy that is really irrevocable. so you're snnot just a p.r. sto anymore or a legal issue it's a life and death issue. >> susan desusa from nbc news in toronto, you were just there from that complete group of people. what was that like? that looked violent to be there. >> reporter: erin, i can tell you in toronto i've covered a lot of stories involving our mayor rob ford who's had a lot of media surrounding him. the scrum around justin bieber as he pulled up to the side of the police station here was ten times crazier than anything i've been involved in what happened was police brought him to the side door of the station,

basically locked arms and basically created a path for him to come in the door. in the midst of that of course the news media, entertainment media and then a lot of fans who have come down since this news first broke around 5:00 this afternoon. so more than 100 people swarming around this car. it was just quite an incredible scene in the midst of that, justin bieber coming in to present himself to police here. >> all right. thank you very much. our steven desousa and jim moure and patrick kennedy. we are going to continue our look at kids in crisis and mental health in america as we go through this week. at 11:30 tonight justin bieber's wild ride. a new york congressman forced to apologize after threatening to throw media off the balcony. jeanne moos is next. [ male announcer ] this is george.

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talk about a short temper. republican congressman michael grimm of new york is apologizing after he threatened to quote break a reporter and toss him off a balcony with expletives thrown in. this happened when the topic turned to an issue he didn't want to talk about. as you can imagine, grimm isn't the first person to lose his cool in a pretty epic manner. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: when tony soprano threatens, men tremble. >> you better pay me the respect that i gave your brother or we're going to have a problem. >> reporter: when new york congressman michael grimm uttered a sopranos-worthy threat

against a reporter who asked the wrong question at the wrong time, it was the congressman who took the hit in the press. >> let me be clear to you. >> reporter: oh, come on. you know the guy's not really going to throw the reporter off the balcony. most of these are just idle threats. for instance, when alec baldwin gets tough. it happens so often -- >> when you're here when my wife and kid come out here you've got a big problem. >> reporter: it doesn't have the same effect. even though he used the exact same threat as tony. and whoever rob ford was ranting about probably won't lose much sleep. and no heads rolled after this tour de france cycling champ defended his dog. >> don't stand on my dog or i cut your head off.

>> reporter: aides had to separate these two. a new york governor yelling at a "new york post" editor. we watched as representative grimm later said he had apologized to a reporter he threatened to break. >> i'm sure my italian mother is going to be yelling at me saying you weren't raised that way and she's right. >> reporter: it could have been worse. reporters have been doused. and whacked. sprayed with bug spray, attacked with an hoe. dogs have even been sicced on them. sometimes when a reporter feels threatened he takes pre-emptive action. this is nuts. watch the knee deployed by meteorologist jim cantore. talk about threats. not even a weatherman could

predict the threat of high pressure moving in on the groin. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> i love it. and jim cantore just beat them all. i think that's the headline there. today is my first day back on outfront after maternity leave. so many of you have kindly welcomed me back. a lot of you have been through this, too. maternity leave was the most wonderful time of my life. as for the sleepless nights and feedings, look, let's be honest. 5:00 p.m. rolls by on maternity leave and you realize you haven't even been able to change out of your pajamas. there's no harder or better job. every day something new happens. like my son niles first and now plentiful full-face smiles, his sweet times when he just wants to hang out. i'm not including any crying shots, everybody, just sweet once. and the budding explorer in him. it is hump day. he does have a stuffed camel in his nursery. and yes, he is getting a

passport so he can ride a real one soon. he's an outfront baby. now i've got him to go home to and the best team ever to work with here on" outtonigfront." we'll see you back here tomorrow. thanks for joining us. i'm looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now. hey, anderson, i've been watching you a lot lately but i haven't had a chance to see you. welcome back. how are you feeling? the baby is so beautiful, so adorable. >> thank you. i'm feeling great. i didn't realize i could exist on so little sleep and function and i'm learning more about myself. >> i'm so happy for your whole family, welcome back. tonight atlanta's weather disaster which is still ongoing. the officials who dropped the ball, the excuse they made for it. we're keeping them honest tonight. breaks news chaos in toronto as justin bieber turns himself in on yet another criminal charge. this is not the one in miami, this is a new one in toronto. later in their first interv