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passport so he can ride a real one soon. he's an outfront baby. now i've got him to go home to and the best team ever to work with here on" outtonigfront." we'll see you back here tomorrow. thanks for joining us. i'm looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now. hey, anderson, i've been watching you a lot lately but i haven't had a chance to see you. welcome back. how are you feeling? the baby is so beautiful, so adorable. >> thank you. i'm feeling great. i didn't realize i could exist on so little sleep and function and i'm learning more about myself. >> i'm so happy for your whole family, welcome back. tonight atlanta's weather disaster which is still ongoing. the officials who dropped the ball, the excuse they made for it. we're keeping them honest tonight. breaks news chaos in toronto as justin bieber turns himself in on yet another criminal charge. this is not the one in miami, this is a new one in toronto. later in their first interview, husband and mother of mar
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marlise munoz on their legal battle that had no victory, only the comfort of knowing they could finally follow her wishes that she be allowed to die with dignity. they are breaking their silence tonight. we begin tonight keeping them honest with the snowstorm that crippled a major american city and what looks like a blizzard of blame shifting in the wake of it. this is what just 2.6 inches of snow -- 2.6 inches of snow and ice -- did to the atlanta metro area when it hit yesterday afternoon. as you look at the traffic jam, consider this. some of those people down there are just now getting home. still others are return now to the highway to retrieve cars that they had to abandon after 6, 12, even 18 hours stuck behind the wheel. some people slept in their vehicles in the cold, others took shelter in stores and churches and public buildings wherever they could find a warm place just to lie down. thousands of area children slept at school, some got home only a few hours ago. officials in one of the big suburban counties report that
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911 operators have been handling almost ten calls a minute all day from people stranded by the storm. that's nearly 24 hours after it began. the fact thought hit just before rush hour in a southern city that doesn't see much of this sort of thing with schools, offices and local businesses all open, obviously did not help. keeping them honest, a lot of people may have been led to believe their state and local officials were on top of the storm when in fact they were not. yesterday morning atlanta mayor tweeted "atlanta we are ready for the snow. and here he is a short time later not in some kind of situation room or emergency operations center but with georgia governor nathan deal accepting an award for georgian of the year. nothing to worry about, atlanta. we are ready, he said. as for governor deal who's responsible for all the miles of interstate highway that are still a mess even now, he also found time as the storm drew closer to host an event yesterday promoting georgia
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tourism, police with scarlett and rhett impersonators. here's how he described it a short time later. >> we have been confronted with an unexpected storm that has hit the metropolitan atlanta area. >> unexpected not quite. all the governor had to really do was turn on the tv starting on monday. our own chad myers predicteded itted day before. so did the weather channel actually located in atlanta. the two dozen meteorologists at delta airlines flight operations center also headquartered in atlanta saw it coming. they were cancelling hundreds of flights. today the governor was no longer saying he had no warning but he was still pointing fingers. >> i did not mean to imply that we didn't know something was coming. what i was referring to was that the national weather service had continually had their modelling showing that the city of atlanta would not be the primary area where the storm would hit. >> keeping them honest, that isn't true, either. listen. >> this is what's going on with the winter weather advisory and
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the winter storm warnings. it goes until tomorrow morning. temperatures are not going to rebound really at all today. it's going to stay cold. could see accumulations of 1 to 2 inches, parts of metro atlanta. >> that's from yesterday's noon broadcast on the expanded national national weather service warning covering the atlanta area. an advisory that was already nearly nine hours old. again, it would take more than four hours for the governor to issue any warning. we invited the governor to come on the program tonight and he declined. and 24 hours later, it is still a mainly mess with michael holmes right in the middle of it joining us now. what's the latest? what are conditions like right there now, michael? obviously having some trouble getting to michael. i'm not sure if that's weather-related or just technical malfunction. we'll try to get back to him. at one point yesterday, 5:20 p.m. to be precise, the number of people stuck in traffic grew by one. take a look. there she is, grace anderson. no relation.
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she's doing fine tonight. so is amy, her mom and nick her dad thanks to a police officer, tim sheffield who tells us the story tonight. officer sheffield, you were on your way to an accident when you saw this car on the side of the road and decided to pull over. walk us through what happened. >> i was on my way to an accident on 285 before riverside drive. and i was checking on stranded motorists as i was going along. i saw the suburban pull over to the right-hand side. and the driver was out of the car. so i got out and i said, are you stuck? are you okay? he just calmly said, no, we're having a baby. and i could tell he was on the phone with 911, which they did an awesome job. i could hear them talking. so i walked up and i looked, and i could see that the baby was just about to come on out. so i went back and got my first aid kit. and i walked back up there. and the dad was real calm. and the mom was a super trouper. she was doing awesome. >> how long had they been there,
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do you know? >> that i don't know. i didn't really get to talk to them much because by the time i got there, about a minute after i arrived the baby was being born. >> wow! >> so i didn't get a chance to talk. i could hear a 911 dispatcher talking to him walking him through, doing a great job. >> have you ever delivered a baby before? is this something you're trained to do? >> no. there is no training, but with this call and i've been doing it for awhile, i have actually delivered before but never on the side of the interstate in an ice storm. >> i can imagine, yes, it's a pretty unique circumstance. >> but the father did -- the mom did all of it, really. because that baby was definitely coming no matter what, who said anything. the father did great. and i was just there to assist. but it was definitely an awesome experience. >> and what happened after the baby was born? then did you take them away? how do you -- what happens then?
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>> once the baby was born, because we were the only ones there, and then i looked up. i looked down to my medical supplies to try to get a blanket to put the baby in. i looked to my right and the fire department and the emergency like expeditions pulled up. they came over. and one of the firemen he did a great job. he had the equipment and came over and started cleaning off the baby. so i just kind of backed out of his way and stopped the traffic over so i could get the ambulance in there and they loaded up the mom and the baby, and they drove off. and the father followed in behind them. i just left there and went down about a half a mile and started working accidents with a jackknifed tractor trailer. >> you just kept on working. that's the job of a police officer, i guess. but i also understand it was actually your birthday yesterday, is that true? >> it was. and that's what i had told the father. i said it is a girl, right? he said yeah, it's a girl. i said, that's awesome. i said today's my birthday. so it was kind of a neat
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birthday surprise. >> you and baby grace now share a birthday. i'm sure it's one you will never forget. >> i will never forget. and the father, he was -- he looked like a pro. he was just real calm and collected. and the mom with no anesthetic or any medicine, pain medicine, she was definitely a trouper. >> unbelievable. officer tim sheffield, listen. i appreciate all you do. and not just yesterday where every day. and i appreciate you talking to us. thank you. >> thank you very much. let's get an update on what it's like out there right now. we managed to reconnect to michael holmes out on the road. what are conditions like right now, michael? >> reporter: i can tell you it's starting to get very cold here again. you were talking earlier, anderson, about sort of the legacy of this. i can tell you this sort of thing. the cars, we've been driving around the interstates all day. and we have seen hundreds and
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hundreds of these cars just abandoned by the side of the road. it's been quite extraordinary. you can see on this one the police have come along and they put these little tapes on here. they were checking every car to make sure no one was in it overnight. hundreds, thousands of these cars. a lot of people were in the traffic so long as you were saying, 10, 12 hours, more in some cases, a lot of them ran out of gas. we've seen cars parked in the middle of off ramps, right in the middle. nobody's come back all day to get them. have a look at the freew behind me. you can see it's pretty empty really. that's because everybody is at home now. so the freeways are actually moving pretty well. but these cars, anderson, everywhere. thousands of them. >> are there worries that the water on the road could refreeze? >> reporter: yes. that's a good question. but the trucks are another big thing, too. all the trucks are starting to get moving along these interstates now, too. they were clogged up. it is now getting back to
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freezing. it's below freezing, in fact. and where there is moisture right behind us and around us it is slick. it's a sheet of ice. on the main roads, though, they've finally got all the salt trucks and grit trucks out. the main roads seem to be pretty dry and moving pretty well. it's the side streets that are going to be the problem. you can get home on the freeway. but once you get off you've got to watch where you're going. that's going to be a problem tomorrow morning, anderson. >> was this just a matter of they just weren't prepared, they hadn't planned out for this kind of eventuality. schools were opened, businesses were opened during rush hour people going home and the highways got clogged? is that basically what it was? >> reporter: yes. you touched on this beautifully just a minute or two ago. when you had the city basically coming and saying, hey, don't worry, this happened back in 2011 but we got you covered this time. it didn't happen. it didn't happen. there was no pretreating on the roads. and then the key thing was all the schools in atlanta let out
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at the same time, and then you had tens of thousands of parents going to get those kids. the school buses were on the road and then corporate atlanta said, hey, it's snowing. everybody go home. this all happened pretty much within an hour. and so you literally had 1 million people hitting these roads at the same time. and when that snow then started to ice up, parking lot. this whole freeway along here yesterday, which is why these cars have been abandoned, no one was moving. for 10, 12, 15 hours. this was a four-lane highway was just absolute parking lot. that was because everyone went out at once. a million people hit the roads at once. >> crazy. michael holmes, appreciate you reporting for us. thanks very much. you can follow me on twitter @andersoncooper. using #ac 360. justin bieber is in there somewhere turning himself in on a serious new charge tonight in toronto. this isn't the whole miami fiasco. this is what's happening in toronto today. we have details on that ahead. later my conversation with eric munoz about the wife and
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mother that he loved and whose wish not to be kept on life support he finally got to honor. >> i promised her. i told her. i will honor your wishes for me and her dad that was the hardest. because we looked her in the eye and told her. and for the state of texas to not let us do that was hard. you want to keep your word to your loved one. i always say be the man with the plan
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game. later on he and his entourage were pulled over. somebody accused him of assault. it wasn't clear whether or not bieber was involved but there was a subsequent incident. anyway, this is bringing a lot of very interesting people as you can tell. but what happened at the time was police weren't saying very much. subsequent investigation went on. and bieber himself has turned himself in as you saw to face these assault charges that. crowd was made up of not only news media, entertainment media but of course a lot of fans who came down. because cbc just broke this news news at 5:00 this afternoon. once that happened, about 100 people descended here in some pretty frigid conditions. about minus 30 degrees celsius right now. fans came out to get a glimpse of the pop star as he made the walk of shame through the doors
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into the police station here. >> so it seems clearly it's brought out a lot of just a lot of characters to say the least. but in terms of what he's actually facing, what happens next? well, right now he's actually inside the police station getting fingerprinted, getting a mug shot taken and speaking with detectives. it's not clear how serious in fact the charge will be. because we know that the driver, the limo driver wasn't taken to the hospital. there was no serious injuries from that. but we have been told he will not be kept overnight and that he will be released on his own recognizance with a promise to appear at a bail hearing later. the way the canadian police system works and justice system works, unfortunately we won't get a chance to see his mug shot like the mug shot in miami. so that's one thing you won't get to see. but we will be standing by here in case they do bring him outside. and i'm sure you can see a lot of fans here are expecting him to come out as well.
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quite a few got jostled by the police as they were being brought in. the police were locking arms, security was there trying to bring him in through the side door. our cameraman got pushed by police officers. several young fans got pushed back. quite a violent scene. i can tell you, anderson, having covering our may be rob ford and some of the scrums that surround rob ford, this was a lot worse than any of those. >> all right. steven dsouza, thank you very much. now equal justice or legal panel, former federal prosecutor sunny hostin and criminal defense attorney and mark geragos joining us. mark, we have this alleged assault on a limo driver in toronto. the dui and resisting arrest incidents in miami, the alleged egging in l.a. county of his neighbor's house, then this just a short time ago as he was about to turn himself in. he posts this photo on instagram. he says a new song. i mean, he basically just seems
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like he's kind of out of control. as a lawyer what do you do? >> i don't know. as a lawyer he's 19. i suppose i'm envious that he's the most famous pop star in the world. and he's busted in a yellow lamborghini and he's posting and has got 29 million followers. up don't know that he's out of control. he's a 19-year-old kid with more money than he knows what to do with. most of these things are not the biggest deals in the world. i'm sure roy's going to take care of the miami thing. i don't think anything untoward is going to happen there. this case certainly doesn't rise to the level of what the mayor of toronto's involved in. so i can't imagine there's going to be much consequence to this. he's going to have to try a lot harder if he thinks he's going to get into trouble based on these things. >> sunny, do you agree with that? all minor things. >> spoken like a true defense attorney. i think mark's attitude, that's usually the attitude of the defense bar is the problem here. this is a kid clearly out of control.
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this is a kid who has no one really looking out for his best interests. and the bottom line is, these are serious things. we're talk about felony vandalism, dui which could lead to someone not only justin bieber but he could have killed someone. and we're talking about now an assault on a limo driver that was driving justin bieber and his friends. >> an alleged assault. >> alleged assault. >> sunny, can i ask you a question? >> let her finish, mark. [ overlapping speakers ] >> mark, you're saying it's -- >> a felony vandalism in l.a.? come on. give me a break. egging? god save me from something -- god save me from something, sunny, that your kids or my kids do. this guy hasn't done anything, sunny, that's violent or -- >> dui is nothing. >> the dui is serious. most serious out of the three. do i think that's going to be
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the death knell for him. no, give him break. he's 19. >> this is the opportunity mark for the justice system to step in and hold him accountable. he's never held accountable. look at lindsay lohan. i think the justice system being involved finally finally got her on the right track. your own client, chris brown, with the justice system getting involved, he is finally it seems getting the help that he needs. this is the prime example of someone that could be rehabilitated. >> mark, for all we know, though, you probably have a ton of experience with this as well, when people see an opportunity maybe to get their name in the paper or to have this thing settled, they might make charges or they may sue the -- these people get sued all the time. these people have things being brought up against them all the time. a lot of them end up just kind of going away, don't they? >> of course they do. i probably had 100 of similar type of these nonsense-style incidents involving a variety of celebrities in the last couple of years. they are targets. people make up stuff.
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people basically want to extort them. that's what happens. then you get people like sunny who start talk about oh, they're out of control. >> he is out of control. >> the government needs to come in. the government needs to come in and take control. >> i don't know we're talking about the government coming in and taking control of justin bieber. >> well, the government, remember what we're talking about here. >> talking about prosecutors holding him accountable. >> prosecutors are nothing but the government. why do you always want the government getting involved? >> mark, you're make it sound like president obama addressed this in the state-of-the-union last night. >> he's terrorizing his neighbors. he's terrorizing -- >> remember who funds the prosecutors. >> sunny, he's terrorizing? >> he's terrorizing the neighborhood. causing $20,000 worth of damage to his neighbors. >> we're done. we're done. >> he t.p.ed a house. >> how do you do $20,000 worth of damage with an egg? allegedly, i don't know what he did. >> somebody needs to egg sunny's
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house. >> thanks, geragos. >> thanks. as always you can find more on the story and other stories at cnn.com. just ahead the fallout of a u.s. congressman's meltdown. take a look. >> representative michael grimm physically threatening a reporter for asking him a question he didn't like. he talked about tossing him off the balcony. also the family of marlise munoz is speaking out tonight on cnn sharing details about their battle, months-long battle to honor her wishes after she was declared brain-dead but was kept on a ventilator under a texas law because she was pregnant. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ (dad) we lived...
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well, after every state-of-the-union address we expect to hear lawmakers give their opinions of the president's speech. we don't expect for u.s. congressmen to physically threaten the reporter asking questions. house republican michael grimm of new york did exactly that, flying into a rage when a hometown reporter asked him a question he didn't like about the federal investigation into his campaign fundraising. he was caught on camera in the capitol rotunda. >> the video certainly has gone viral. 24 hours later grimm is in damage control mode. the former marine admits he overreacted.
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athena jones joins me now. the congressman was adamant standing by his quotes to that reporter. do you know what made him apologize? >> i've never had someone i'm interviewing threaten me with physical violence. that's what happened, so grimm was getting a lot of negative attention there. were a lot of reporters waiting for him and following him around today. as you mentioned, the video of that confrontation was circulating widely on twitter and other places on the internet. initially as you said he was pretty define tant. here's what he told new york one initially. he said i verbally took the reporter to task and told him off because i expect a certain level of professionalism and respect, especially when i go out of my way to do that reporter a favor." that's what he initially said to new york one. but by the time we caught up with him outside of his office this morning after morning votes he was ready to apologize. let's take a listen. >> i apologized. i called michael scotto.
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he was very gracious and accepted my apology. we're going to have lunch sometime next week and make sure this is all behind us. the bottom line is sometimes i wear my emotionins on my sleeve. i was wrong. it shouldn't have happened. i apologized to him and he was gracious accepted it. now i've got work to do on flood insurance. i'm passionate. my constituents know that. >> the reporter tweeted he send the -- he accepted the apology. >> he said he wanted to talk about state-of-the-union and not this investigation into his campaign financing. that's what the reporter asked him about, which is what sparked his fury, i guess, just him asking a question about this investigation, correct? >> reporter: right. but the reporter says there was no prior agreement about staying away from other topics. of course this has been an ongoing investigation.
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the reporter wanted to take the opportunity to ask a question. i asked grimm today, last night you seemed to not like being asked this other question. was it inappropriate? he said it was absolutely a fair question. so a real turn around for grimm today, anderson. >> it also guarantees more attention on the federal investigation of the congressman probably something a lot of people didn't even know about before. athena jones, thanks. a cruise ship carrying hundreds of sick passengers back in port. we're learning the outbreak may have been worse than first thought. new details about how bad it was on board. also on cnn erick munoz tells why his late wife marlise made him a stronger man and why he fought to honor her wishes to die with dignity. >> i have no doubt. i have no doubts. i sat there and tried to argue with myself. but knowing marlise, knowing that she fights for what she believes in, i can't say that four years ago i would have done
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their battle to honor her wishes and she died. they did honor her wishes this past weekend. now they're trying to find a way forward in their grief. they told me they want to make sure no other family has to go through what they did. in a moment you'll hear from erik munoz and marlise's mother lin. >> this past november, 33-year-old marlise munoz wakes up in the middle of the night to prepare a bottle for her young baby boy. a paramedic whose husband is also a paramedic, marlise is 14 weeks pregnant with the couple's second child when she collapses on the kitchen floor of an apparent blood clot in her lung. shortly after being taken to john peter smith hospital in ft. worth, texas, doctors tell her husband erick his wife is brain-dead and will never recover. >> i can't say enough about her. everything i do will always be short of what she was. i can't do her justice. >> marlise's body is connected to a ventilator despite her
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family's wishes and what her family says were her wishes. erik munoz says as paramedics it was a conversation he and marlise had often. >> we've seen things out in the field. and we both knew that we didn't want to be on life support. >> but hospital refuses to unplug the ventilator because marlise is pregnant. texas is one of about 30 states that restricts a woman's ability to be disconnected from life support if she's pregnant, regardless of the patient or family's directive. >> weave 'vave we reached a poi where you wish your wife's body would stop. >> the family files a lawsuit demanding marlise be immediately disconnected and her body turned over to them for proper burial. the case sparks a debate over end of life decisions. >> we don't want the hospital or the court if it does go to court there is a child involved. >> tom mayo ace law professor at
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southern methodist university. he says the hospital misinterpreted it because marlise can't be brought back to life. >> i don't see how we can use a provision of the law that talks about treating or not treating a patient in a case where we really don't have a patient. >> attorneys for the family reveal that despite a heartbeat, the fetus inside marlise is distinctly abnormal, saying "even at this early stage, the lower extremities are deformed to the extent that the gender cannot be determined." after more than two months since she collapsed, a judge orders the hospital to dechalare her dd an withdraw life support. the hospital says it will comply with the court saying in a statement "jps health network has followed what we believed were the demands of a state statute. from the onset, jps has said its role was not to make or contest law but to follow it." on sunday the machines are switched off and her family is
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finally able to lay her to rest. for all that coverage that the story has gotten, the most painful details were intensely private, obviously. the loss of marlise is still obviously very raw for her family. the munos's 15-month-old son is too young obviously to understand what's happened. from now at least he's spared from that heart break. earlier erick munoz and marlise's mom told me they want their story to be heard to save other families from going through the same nightmare. here's our exclusive interview. >> let's go back to when she first had the embolism. she was at that point 14 weeks pregnant >> yes. once we got to the hospital, and after the doctors do their initial procedures that they do to try to determine what's causing the problem, see if they can fix it, they showed us a c.t. of her brain. and i'm not a doctor, but you
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take enough stroke patients to the hospital and you see their c.t.s. because we see the c.t.s. we see them. i knew -- i guess i can't tell you exactly what i was looking at but i knew it was wrong. >> and even then, even in those early days, you were all on the same page. you felt you knew her wishes that she wouldn't want to be kept alive artificially through extreme measures >> yes. yes. we've known for years. we've known for years. i knew that it was over for her when they brought us back to the e.r. i don't have anything scientific to back that up. it was just -- i walked in. she had already coded. her heart had stopped again. and i remember a nurse being on the table administering cpr. i turned to my husband and i said, why are they doing that? she's gone. and so i knew in the e.r. then it was clarified from one of the doctors in the e.r. that showed
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us the cat scan. and they brought us up to icu so we would have a little bit of privacy for when she was disconnected. and by the time we got up here, or up to the third floor, that's when we found out that there was this little-known law in texas that even to this day we have yet to have someone that has known about it. >> so the doctors initially didn't even -- didn't know about this law. >> no. actually we were called back into her room in icu. and the doctor told us about this. of course, we're like no, we want to disconnect her. and his words were, we were asking for an explanation. his words he's like i'm sorry. i just found out about this law five minutes before you did. i've been told to notify you of it. >> when they told you this, this is the worse thing that could possibly happen to you. you're in this horrific situation. and you've made this difficult decision based on conversations that you've had with your wife,
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with your daughter in the past. what goes through your head when a doctor says we're not going to follow your wishes? >> for me, i thought there must have been a miscommunication of some way. we said no, no, no, that's not what she wanted. she wanted never to be on life support. and that's when they're saying, well, but she's pregnant. and then it went from there. so we knew we weren't going to let this rest. because it wasn't right. it was not honoring her wishes. >> i think a lot of people think, well, maybe if you had had something in writing that would have made a difference if she had written down if there was an advanced directive or something. but under this texas law, even if it's in writing it gets overridden. >> exactly. exactly. >> she could have been detailed everything exactly how this happened, detailed it and it wouldn't have mattered. >> there are some families in that situation who think, well,
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maybe she can come back from this. maybe a miracle can happen. >> i mean, we still held the hope. i mean, i did. i can say i did. but for me it was, at least for me, i couldn't turn off the knowledge that i know of what was going on. and even though i did want to keep the hope -- it's my wife. i'd do anything. many a nights that i asked god to take me instead. but you can't turn off that knowledge that you know how bad it was. and like i said, i promised her. i told her. i will honor your wishes. for me and her dad, that was the hardest. because we looked her in the eye and told her. and for the state of texas to not let us do that was hard. you want to keep your word to your loved one. >> what was she like?
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>> she can light up a room with her smile. permanent like i said contagious. i am not one to talk a whole lot. but it was just being around her to me was natural. it was just relaxing. i could do things that even my parents, i felt a lot more relaxed with her than i did with my parents. but she's contagious. that smile, that personality, that kind, noble heart that she has is undescribable. >> towards the end as the body reacted to the amount of time it had been on life support and the de deterioration that had started, it made it very hard to look at this body that used to be our daughter and to know that
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nothing about her was there. >> and you could even -- you could see deterioration. >> very much. very much. and you could smell it. >> really? >> smell the deterioration. i had said when i go by to -- if i'm close to her head, i smell death. >> i understand you learned that you were going to have a daughter. >> they had done several sonos throughout the process. for the initial ones they couldn't determine. so after the court hearing, i said, i would like to know the gender to give my baby a name. i know it's nothing legal. >> what did you name her? >> nicole. nicole. it was my wife's middle name. >> one of the reasons you're both speaking out, this is not easy. you're not looking to get on television here certainly. >> no. >> but you want people to have
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this conversation with their loved one. >> yes. >> you hope this sparks conversation in families and whether it's getting stuff in writing, but even in this case that wouldn't have made a difference. but to have that conversation. >> to have the conversation, to make sure your relatives or other loved ones know what your wishes are. again, that helped with us being on the same page from the very beginning. >> one thing i hadn't thought about, and i actually got a lot of e-mails and tweets about this from viewers who were saying, well, this family is not going to be given a bill by this hospital for this. there's no way that could happen. because that would be unthinkable. did they present you with a bill? >> well, i have received bills to my house. they have not come to me and said how that's going to work. but i believe i've heard several media outlets saying that they've asked about that. they have asked that question.
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they said they would continue normal billing. >> is there anything else you want people to know? >> for me, closure began after she was disconnected. i was able to get a sense of closure. and of course, now we're starting the grieving process. and it was hard to do, hard to start the grieving process when we still had this body that we knew was an empty shell in front of it. we really couldn't start grieving. but now we can. for me our story does not end here. it will end when we have laws changed. >> you're going to continue to fight for that? >> yes. yes, we are. yes. >> i wish you -- i'm so sorry for all you've gone through as a family. i wish you strength in the days ahead. >> thank you. thank you. >> one of things that marlise's mom said gives her strength is the belief, the firm belief marlise is in heaven and was
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returned two days early and will be explored by the c dc. nearly 700 people got sick with symptoms consistent with the norovirus. the ship returned to bayonne, new jersey today. elizabeth cohen is there. it sound like a nightmare people getting sick all over the place. how bad was it? >> reporter: from what the passengers have told us it was quite bad. i hope you don't mind i'm going to get a little graphic on you, anderson. they describe walking around and seeing people sort of hunched in a corner vomiting into bags. one woman said she was in the dining hall and another woman was throwing up into a napkin. another passenger said she saw someone in his pajamas just soiled from diarrhea and vomiting. it really sounded unpleasant. let's hear directly from one passenger about her experience. >> when i was in my room i didn't know about the other people until my husband went out and told the crew attendant. they come up, they got me a wheelchair. they put me in a wheelchair as they pushed me through the fifth
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floor, which was where the shops are through everyone. and we went down. when we went downstairs on the lift they opened the doors, you could see absolutely everyone sitting there being sick in buckets, in bags. it was awful. they just gave as you number to wait. i had to wait three hours to be seen. >> reporter: while some passengers were critical of royal caribbean and how they handled it, others were quite complimentary and said they did a great job. >> what's next for the cruise line? what happens now? >> reporter: royal caribbean says they're doing a thorough sanitation of the vessel. we asked the centers for disease control what are they required to do after an outbreak like this. it turns out there aren't specific things that they have to do, cleaning up wise or hygiene-wise. there aren't specific things they need to do. they need to have a plan, but it's not clear how this cleaning will be more super duper than any other cleaning they do between cruises. >> do passengers get compensated
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since the whole thing was cut short? >> reporter: we've been told that they will get 50% of their money back, and then 50% off a future cruise. and then they got perks like free wi-fi because of this and $400 of cash to spend onboard. and they got free wine and rum, according to the passengers. i'm not sure that's really what i would want to be drinking if i were in this condition. but there it is. >> free wine and rum and wi-fi. wow. >> caller: there you go. >> elizabeth cohen, appreciate it. >> reporter: while you're sick comfort. >> thanks very much. if you've never been to norway, the question is if you've never been to country like norway are you actually qualified to be ambassador to a country like norway? you might be surprised. "the ridiculist" is next. ♪
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time for for "the ridiculist." on the off chance you haven't been obsessively watching the senate foreign relations committee hearing with president obama's ambassador nominees. may come as a surprise in order to be an ambassador to a foreign country one doesn't necessarily have to be super familiar with that country. take senator max baucus of montana, nominee for u.s. ambassador to china. >> senator, i am no real expert on china. >> no real expert on china. an aide for the senator says he was just being humble because that is the montana way. i guess that makes sense. to be honest, i'm no real expert on montana. so what do i know?
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surely, though, if you're going to be an ambassador to a country you'd travel there at some point, right? >> have you been to norway? >> i have not. >> the guy who's going to be the ambassador to norway hasn't been there. george sunes is his name. he's a businessman, been nominated for the ambassadorship to norway versus senator john mccain, ambassador of sass. it goss pretty esoteric. >> norway has been very quick to denounce them. >> the government has denounced them? are they part of the coalition of the government? >> i stand corrected. i would like to leave my answer, it's a very very open society. >> i stand corrected. look, not many businessmen would be able to intelligently discuss the political makeup of norway's government. that's true. but they're not trying to be ambassador to norway. i'm not sure sunes even googled norway. he made reference to the
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country's president, which by the way norway does not have and stumbled over just about everything else. >> the heart of our in services. but there are important that we continue -- interesting. >> i tied an onion to my belt. interesting. suddenly i have a great idea for a new u.s. ambassador to south africa, iraq, everywhere like such as -- >> dama, people out there in our nation don't have that. and i believe that our education like in south africa and iraq, everywhere like such as. and i believe that they should -- our education over here in the u.s. should help the u.s. or should help south africa and should help the iraq and asian countries. >> it's only a matter of time
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before she's nominated. look, i just want to see senator john mccain do the interview portion in a miss teen usa pageant. >> i have no more questions for this incredibly highly qualified group of nominees. >> senator john mccain putting the bad ass back in ambassador hearings on "the ridiculist." that does it for this edition of 360. we'll see you one hour from now at 10:00 p.m. eastern, live edition of "ac 360." piers morgan live starts now. this is cnn breaking news. this is piers morgan live. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight breaking news. another bombshell for justin bieber. mobs as he arrived in toronto to face new assault charges over the beating of a limo driver. being questioned right now. my exclusive with legend barry gibb the sole surviving member of the bee gees. talks for the first time about the traeblg of lotragedy o
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