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look, i just want to see senator john mccain do the interview portion in a miss teen usa pageant. >> i have no more questions for this incredibly highly qualified group of nominees. >> senator john mccain putting the bad ass back in ambassador hearings on "the ridiculist." that does it for this edition of 360. we'll see you one hour from now at 10:00 p.m. eastern, live edition of "ac 360." piers morgan live starts now. this is cnn breaking news. this is piers morgan live. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight breaking news. another bombshell for justin bieber. mobs as he arrived in toronto to face new assault charges over the beating of a limo driver. being questioned right now. my exclusive with legend barry gibb the sole surviving member of the bee gees. talks for the first time about the traeblg of lotragedy of loo
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all three of his younger brothers. >> i just think it's time to grow up. time to grow up and be what all these young girls love you. be a good example. >> the south is bad enough when it snows in atlanta. when 2 1/2 inches brings the ninth largest city to a halt there's something badly wrong. one couple had to give birth while being stuck in traffic. former mayor rudy giuliani talks about how big cities can be more prepared than atlanta. and whether new york city is ready for the super bowl. breaking news. justin bieber is facing assault charges in toronto. in addition to pending dilemmas in miami and los angeles. joining me a former prosecutor, cnn legal analyst and prosecutor. michelle, where the hell are we with justin bieber? it seems like almost every other day there is a new thing
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involving him and the law. >> >> second time in a week for justin bieber.
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>> gps on the car that he was driving in miami did come back the owner of that exotic car company where he rented the car from said the gps showed 15 minutes before the arrest the car was not going more than 55 miles per hour. so there are some things that come into question. and could it be, yes. but could it also be that justin is a kid with a lot of money, a lot of fame and making some pretty poor decisions right now. i mean, that could -- >> to be fair to him, i like the biebs, is he making decisions that most kids of his age would be making if they suddenly came into huge fame and money. and how serious is it. let's go to the lawyers. you guys can assess whether from a legal perspective he's spy ra spiralling out of control in a serious manner or whether we're making too much of this. michael you consulted with bieber's team after the arrest in miami i do find down there what's fascinating. serious questions i think should be asked now of the police and
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their behavior, shouldn't they? >> you've got a dui allegation. you're talking a breath reading under the legal limit which is .02 but you also have an allegation that he made statements that he had smoked marijuana that night, that he was under the care of a physician or that he was taking prescription drugs at the time. that's a bad cocktail. and that's what leads to impairment. so there's two theories of which one could be prosecuted for dui. either being over the legal limit or alternatively being impaired or alternatively on a third option which is to be under the influence of drugs. so they've got three options in which they want to go forward on the dui. and i personally know the officers on this case. and they are experienced officers. they've made hundreds of dui arrests. so i don't know about these allegations of it being that flimsy of a case. >> mark o'mara, let's take the whole bieber legal actions into a totality and address the issue of his potential deportation
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from the united states. because there is an official white house petition on the official site there. i know all about these because there was one that was launched about me to have me deported. and president obama had to spring to my rescue. but he's actually got even more thane had now. he's got over 130,000 signatures. which means the white house will be compelled to respond. is there a serious risk here of bieber being deported? >> well, justin bieber is sort of a criminal light right now. i think he needs to get control of himself. those people advising him need to tell him to get his act together. but egging a house, not particularly serious. not sure how you cause $20,000 with an egg unless it's gold paint signed by peter max. the event with the assault an the limo driver, that could be an opportunity thing. the dui down in south florida, i would not be too concerned about if i was roy black for a couple of reasons. one, it's less than a .02.
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not much alcohol. i agree with mike there may be a dangerous cocktail of marijuana and prescription drugs could make it much more serious. but underthis. even if all this existed in florida in dade county where this thing was, there's a thing called back on track, which is a way to get rid of the dui even a legitimate dui, do so the community service, do some counselling and then it's off your record. so even with that, not much there. bieber is not going to get deported because of these three events, no matter how many hundreds of thousands of people want to get on board with that. but he does need to sort of get control of his people. he has a great opportunity. the opportunity here is he can tell his fans, those 15 or 16-year-olds, this is not the way to act. don't go driving, don't go drinking and driving, don't egg houses you don't need to and be careful with the people around you. he need to take this as an opportunity to make something of himself. doing 55 miles per hour is a lamborghini, that's first gear.
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so that's not all that serious.
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>> watch the special "justin bieber's wild ride" tonight right here at 11:30 on cnn. everybody is talking about the biebs tonight. in atlanta the storm leads to gridlock nightmares and finger pointing. a silver lining in in the middle of all this. despite being stuck in traffic during the storm, a couple gave birth to a baby girl. they join me now. welcome to both of you. >> thanks for having us on. >> you're joining us by phone. i would imagine you'd love to have had more technology available to you at the time. tell me about your dramatic night. >> it was certainly an adventure, much like everyone else in atlanta we experienced a little bit of the gridlock nightmare. i was trying to get home. amy had been trying to call me on my cell phone to let me know that she was very much going into labor and contractions were getting pretty strong. and it took me about a few hours to get five or six miles to get
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home to them. so it was pretty scary. >> and amy, for you you're on for way to the hospital, your husband and two daughters. you get these contractions. you have to pull over thanks to the terrible conditions. what are you thinking? this is like every mother's nightmare. >> it actually is. it was just really all a blur. but we were going and my husband was driving on the side and everyone's beeping at us because they're all in the gridlock. but we came to a spot that we couldn't get through at all. and so that's when i told him, we're going to have have this baby in the car. >> how did it all go? >> i don't have anything to compare it to. but he called 911 and the operator was very helpful. just kind of walked him through how what exactly what to do. >> and amy, obviously every mother will be fascinated to
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know. did it all go fine? did you feel like it was unproblematic in the end despite the terrible situation? >> it was a pure blessing that everything went well, that we were both healthy and doing great. when we gave the name grace it just fully explained the whole situation. just by the grace of god that we all came out healthy and we got into the the ambulance and they got us to the hospital. we're doing great. >> fantastic to hear elizabeth is doing well. a wonderful end to your family. a pretty alarming night for you. thanks for joining me. nick and amy anderson, a lovely story out of what was a very bleak night for many people. when we come back, someone who knows how to deal with crisis in a big city. america's mayor rudy giuliani. what would he have done with this mess down in atlanta? [ male announcer ] here's a question for you:
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. my guest has experience making crunch time decisions and former new york mayor rudy giuliani. atlanta is not used to this kind of huge deluge. a lot of blame tagame between t mayor and governor and so on. i don't really buy we don't
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think it was going to be this bad. there were plenty of warnings. >> usually this is a function of did you prepare in advance or did you. i wrote a book about leadership. i have a chapter called relentless preparation. a lot of it comes from snow removal. i had two of the worst winters in the history of the city when i was the mayor. relentless preparation is the key whether a terrorist attack, a snowstorm, hurricane. the reality is, these things should have been prepared in advance. the state should have known what it was doing, the city should have known what it was doing. >> who is ultimately responsible? >> well, in my cause, i don't know atlanta and the jurisdiction there, in my case the mayor of the city of new york. >> the mayor. >> dealing with hurricanes, blackouts, weather conditions, it's the mayor's responsibility. >> let's move on to other responsibility. the state-of-the-union. what did you make of speech last night by the president? >> i thought i'd heard it about four times before. >> i would not disagree with
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that. i thought it was a bit disappointing. >> it was very disappointing. it indicates he hasn't done what he said he was going to do. i know you're a big pro point of gun control. he said that in the last two or three speeches. >> on gun control he seems to say less and less about it. >> he said less and less about everything. he's going to put a little more taxes on carbon. well, he did that before. he's in favor of raising the minimum wage. going to do that again. how he's going to create jobs by extending unemployment insurance i don't know. >> it looked to me you had guy very frustrated by the way congress has thwarted his ambition. he quite regularly said through the speech i'll be doing executive orders, taking my own decisions. can he do that in a calculated -- >> i think that was a big mistake. he basically set down a marker for himself. he basically said, i can accomplish this on my own.
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>> can he? >> no, he can't. >> as president can you do the things he's saying? >> half will get challenged in the courts and overturned as being executive overreach. he basically said, if you don't do what i want i will govern by executive order. which by the way as a senator he was bitterly opposed. to when you do that you take the risk that you've overstepped executive authority, you've violated the separation of powers and you can have that reversed by the supreme court. he's had about three of them reversed, including his interim appointments during congressional recess. senate recesses. he's had those reversed by the supreme court already. >> can any president in his position right now really achieve a great deal more in the rest of his second term? >> ronald reagan and bill clinton did. if you are going to govern by executive order you don't do it
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because you get congress mad at you. bill clinton figured out how to do things with newt gingrich. ronald reagan had to deal with a democratic congress and accomplished a tremendous amount. what you heard in their speeches was a much more conciliatory, much more agreeable tone than the president had last night. >> you mentioned the gun thing. let's play exactly what he said about guns last night. this was the entirety. >> citizenship means standing up for the lives that gun violence steals from us each day. i've seen the courage of parents, students, pastors, police officers, all over this country who say we are not afraid. and i intend to keep trying with or without congress to help stop more tragedies from visiting innocent americans in our movie theaters, in our shopping malls or schools like sandy hook. >> what is ironic is he's going to a high school in tennessee tomorrow as a pre-planned visit. just last night, 17-year-old
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student there shot his 15-year-old friend at an apartment. there have been 36 or 37 school shootings in america since newtown. >> right. and he's accomplished nothing. >> this is a man who promised families of newtown as i'm your president, he's been down there several times, i am your president, i will get action on gun control. last night i thought it was pretty disgraceful to have two paragraphs almost dismissing any efforts really? >> i think the sentence with or without congress means without congress. >> right. >> if i stood in front of the city council and said, i'm going to do this with or without you i might as well count them out. >> what can he do about gun control say without congress? >> he can do more enforcement through the justice department. that's about it. there isn't very much he can do. you and i don't agree on this completely, but if he wants to do gun control he's got to be willing to make concessions to
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the republicans on things that they want. bill clinton, through the crime bill, was able to get a certain level of gun control. but you know what he gave the republicans? he gave the republicans the death penalty, he gave the republicans 100,000 police officers, he gave the republicans much longer sentences for drug dealers which he now wants to remove. so you have to know as a president you have to be willing to say, this is my priority. i'm going to go for that. then i have to give away three or four other things. i have to give away some things that my constituents might not like, my base might not like in order to get it. he doesn't seem to be able to do that. >> that's been true for this president for a long time. clinton and reagan could do that and bush could do that to a certain extent. >> it's the art of a political deal, isn't it? >> that's what it's about in a democracy. >> give and take. you surrender stuff you don't want to surrender. >> your base will get angry at you. you make a decision this is more important to me. >> he is not prioritizing gun control, is he? >> not anything. >> regardless of my position on
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it or anybody else's, if you're the president of the united states to me and you go down to the worst school shooting in your country's history and you make a promise to those families, i will get action on gun control and you end up doing nothing and in the next state of the union speech you make, which is a year later you basically are just dismissing it in two paragraphs, i think you're failing those families. >> we could go over a whole host of other issues where very much the same thing happened. after the speech you could har pooif democratic senators separating themselves from him. they don't want him there when they're campaigning for re-election because they're in states that are marginal states. >> we saw this representative grimm, grimm by name, grim by nature, who was threatening to throw a young reporter off a balcony. that just new york politics meets new york media? >> i know michael real well. he's a good friend. he's a form fbi agent and former marine. i think maybe the marine part came out of him. >> have you ever threatened to throw a reporter over a balcony?
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>> i don't think i've ever threatened it. >> let's listen to this. >> death think but don't go back and check. >> see if this michael grimm brings back any memories. let's watch this. >> i'm going to throw you off the f-ing balcony. like a little boy. i couldn't imagine you possibly doing that really. >> i hope i never did it. i don't want you to check. he had did do the right thing, called him today, apologized, they're going to have lunch together and hopefully make up. >> there was one moment we can all agree a very special moment last night. this is when president obama saluted sergeant corey remsburg who had done several tours. >> my recovery has not been easy, he says. nothing in life that's worth anything is easy. corey is here tonight.
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and like the army he loves, like the america he serves, sergeant first class corey remsburg never gives up.
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♪ 1958 three young brothers joined together to form a music group called the bee gees. their music helped define the disco era in the 70s.
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one of biggest acts in the world sold an incredible 220 million albums. joining me now the founding member of the bee gees, legendary barry gibbs. barry, so good to see you. >> so good to see you. >> i've thought a lot about you recently. being one of the all-time great british music stars, a lot of people celebrating the beatles this week. but you guys did something that even the beatles never did. not many know this, the bee gees are the only group in music history to write, produce and record six straight number one hits. not even the beatles did that. >> well, i'm proud of that. i don't know how we did it. i think robin is probably the one i would say did that. robin was a genius. he opened doors for us that would never have been opened otherwise. so you're never on your own. it takes a whole bunch of people to make something like that happen. just feel really lucky.
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>> strange thing talking to you now is that i met you and your brothers over the years. >> i know. >> we had a lot of fun stuff. but it feels strange to me to be seeing you on your own. it must feel 100 times stranger for you to be going out on tour without any of your brothers. >> yeah. well, i mean, i did mope around for a few months, a good few months. and the whole family did. nobody really knew how to deal with it all. because it's the loss of three brothers. >> andy was only 30. >> only 30 years old, yeah. so it was all that. and then we have to go through that valley, the whole family. even now, my mother is still one way or the other she goes up and she goes down. >> your mom's in her 90s. >> she's in her 90s. >> you were the oldest brother. >> yes. i was the oldest brother. >> it seems strange that your mom and you have outsurvived the three younger brothers. >> yes. and my older sister leslie. who lives in australia. and i think the last count eight
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children. so she's keeping it all going in her way. yes, leslie, me and mom. and we have the memories now. we have the memories. >> when you look back over it all, you must have extraordinary memories. what for you were the great highlights? the moments if i could replay them for you now you would choose? >> i would choose the time before we ever -- before anyone knew who we were. because in those days, we lived on the beach. we went to school in red cliff which was paradise. we emigrated to australia at that point. probably the most magical moments of my life. because we arrived in australia on my birthday, i was 12 years old. the rest was incredible. we did all of the first live television in australia. we did -- those are the best experiences for me. because nobody -- because it wasn't about fame. it was just about what's going to happen tomorrow. when can we get another show. >> they had to kind of give, i
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guess, an innocence about it. >> absolutely. >> an excitement. you didn't know what was going to happen. >> yeah. and not knowing is really in the end the most fun. >> when you achieve the kind of stratospheric super stardom you guys did in the 70s, the absolute personification of the disco era in many ways, of course ""saturday night fever"" with it came huge fame, huge money, all the trappings and glory and so on. you're hinting i guess from your previous comments that it's not all it's cracked up to be. the fame and the money and the glory that you aspired to. >> i suppose it is and it isn't. because there's all the good stuff, and then there's the fact that fame is something that takes hold of you and then decides what you do with your life. and i never really enjoyed that at all. and i enjoyed sort of knowing what i was going to do and knowing what my brothers and i were going to do. but fame is an animal. it just takes hold of you and
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said this is who you are, this is what you've got to do. >> tell me about your brothers. let's start with andy. you lost him when he was 30 years old. i guess he'll always be in your head a 30-year-old young man, right? >> yes. yes. andy was mostly like me. morris and robin were not alike but alike in also many ways. andy and i were the two guys that played tennis. and morris and robin never did. it just didn't really interest them. but andy was sort of like almost like my twin brother. but he was not as lanky as me. i was skinny and lanky and he was strong. >> when he died and there was you and the twins, did you feel slightly disconnected? is that inevitable when two of your brothers are twins? >> i think we became disconnected about 12 years ago. and then when we lost mo, robin and i gravitated back towards each other a little bit. it's always been twins and the older brother. so there was a real difference.
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i think they always talked to each other more than they talked to me. so that's twins. >> what causes that kind of rift between siblings who have been so close? is it simply being together too much? is it the pressures outside forces of fame? >> i guess there's the difference between being in a group and brothers in a group or sisters in a group. there's another kind of rivalry, which is really in the blood. and who wants to be the favorite child, who wants to be the favorite performer. who do you love the best? parents always love the youngest the best. we all knew our mom and dad loved an ditcdy. but mom and dad loved all of us and didn't know how to divide us up. we were competitive. we were always trying to thrust ourselves up front. robin was competitive with me. morris was the middle guy that would mediate. robin and i would clash.
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he had a beautiful wonderful voice. i'm always going to miss that. because there was nothing more fun than harmonizing. >> i heard when he was dying, and i was to have him on the show. you wrote a song for him and sang it for him. >> i did. i will get down to recording. because i've got my studio refitted. and i'm going to make records with my kids, with steven and ashley. and the song is called "the end of the rainbow." and it's sort of -- it's like a lot of songs that i have. it's sort of like bits of paper around my house. i have to go look for songs. there's one in a drawer. there's one called "a million years" which i have somebody in mind but i haven't sent it yet. but songs keep coming. >> that must have been for you a very special moment, to write a song and to sing it to robin knowing you were losing him. >> yeah. >> knowing you were losing your last brother. of three brothers
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>> yes. it's a very strange experience to know that you have no brothers now. that's unusual. that's weird. i mean, i have a hard time dealing with it. but my whole family has a hard time dealing with it. so coming to terms with it slowly. but i really miss them. >> i'll bet you do. >> and what i miss more than anything else is how much we used to laugh. because we we were the good ones. >> stay with me. talk more about the bee jegees phenomenon. you were immore statalized on "saturday night live." we'll get your reactions when you come back. wow, this hotel is amazing. oh no. who are you? who are you? wrong answer. wait, daddy, this is blair, he booked this room
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♪ ♪ how deep is your love i really need to learn ♪ >> 1977 hit "how deep is your love" number one in the u.s. at three weeks. back with bee gees member, singer, songwriter barry gibb. you must hear this so many times. but such a template of my youth. and even now, every party i ever
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go to at some stage somebody will put on a bee gees record and the place explodes. if i said to you, you can only play one bee gees record, which one would you choose? >> i'd have to be -- it would have to be "how can you mend a broke up heart". >> why that one? >> because it's really about lost love in all young people. for me it was a reflection on the first crush i ever had, what it was like. and i was always done. so what it was like being done. i was so possessive. i always had to sort of fall in love. >> you've had the most longest successf successful marriage. >> we met when massachusetts was number one. we had a cup of tea in the cantina at bbc. we had a cud cuddle in a phone booth and time stood still.
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>> how do you imagine that? show biz is so littered with broken marriages. how have you managed to sustain such a lasting love, do you think? >> because i think we've juls always been in love love. we never really saw other people. once it happened that was it. >> you never looked to anyone else? >> i think it's okay to look. >> i'll play a clip from "saturday night live." this is brilliant. justin timberlake with jimmy fallon. >> it's the barry gibb talk show. ♪ ♪
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>> hard to watch. >> you were finding it hard to watch. why? >> because i hate looking at myself at different ages. when people put things in front of me to sign it's always a different age and it freaks me out. this is me 10 years ago, 20 years ago. it's hard to go from being able to do anything with your body to not being able to get out of bed. you have to live with that stuff. but my throat still feels great. >> i was going to ask you. you're going out on tour. going out with your son. >> yes. >> and morris's daughter. >> yes. >> it's a wonderful way of continuing the family. >> i think it is, too. but it sort of happened organically. we just sort of came towards each other and started singing. that worked out great. and she's lovely. and you know what, she lights up the stage.
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and my eldest son steven, who's this sort of primeval sort of hunk who plays great lead guitar and sings great. and it's nice to look around the stage. when i look at the side of the stage, my daughter's on the teleprompters. so i get to see her eyes on that side of the stage. i can tell by her eyes whether things are working. >> how is your voice? the the bee gees voices were so utterly unique. i'm sure it's one of the reasons you've had such longevity. they really were unique voices. >> because we were always experimenting. and that was part of it. robin's vibrato was wonderful. but he wasn't a social singer. morris and i would sit around and sing all night. robin was i got to go now. he never really got into it. but when it was time to sing robin sang. >> how is your voice now? compared to what it used to be?
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>> it's okay. it's okay. >> people expect you to talk like that. >> yes. >> we've got a big movie airing tomorrow night on cnn. about the 60s invasion, focusing on the beatles obviously >> yes. yes. >> but a lot of nostalgia about that did you and the beatles hang out? >> morris did because he was married to lulu at that time. they did a lot of beatles things. there was a thing called speak easy which was underground where everybody went. you'd have the beatles and stones and who in one room eating. and otis redding could be on stage or sam and dave. those were days where there was a coffin in front of the door. if you had a membership card it went around. there was an incredible world. >> let's take another break. come back and talk about justin bieber with you. through teenage stardom. wonder what advice you might have for the biebs. hold your thoughts.
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>> another number one hit. barry gibbs back with me now. you have an amazing number of people you've written hit songs for. janice joplin, elvis presley, kenny rogers, barbra streisand, tina turner, diana ross. amazing. >> i never know what's going to happen tomorrow, and if somebody wants to -- first of all, janice joplin, she just took it and recorded it. >> what advice would you have for justin bieber? a lot of people are talking about him at the moment. you had to come through all this. >> what i see with justin bieber is sort of what i see with andy. >> your brother, andy? >> yeah. heading for a brick wall, and
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that's a shame, because this kid has a great gift. i would like to do the things he does. i would like to dance and do all those wonderful things that even justin timberlake does. so on that level, i'm sort of envious. but i think it's time to grow up and be what all these young girls love you, be a good example. >> do you need people around you telling you that? is that part of the problem? >> yes, and you have a lot of people around you that just want to have a party, you know? and live off what it is that you're getting attention for. i think that's the problem. it's always the problem. having a wild animal is one of the first signs. andy had a lion, justin had a monkey. it's a shame. i think it's more of a shame for his parents, because they're probably really telling -- i
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feel for him. >> yeah. i can only imagine how hard it is. it's going to go to their heads. >> but there will be a brick wall if you don't grow up quick. >> good advice. this is you and your brother from 1997. let's watch this. ♪ ♪ >> very poignant lyrics. when you go out, barry, without
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your brothers on this tour, when you go out in america in particular where you enjoyed such huge fame, what would be your favorite memory of perhaps the big times with your brothers? >> being around the microphone together. just like that, just being around the microphone and actually being able to feel each other's breath and knowing what it is we were all doing. we would all be able to know, this is good. this is working tonight. >> let's listen to a bit more of this. ♪ >> i find that really sad, in a warm way, in a sense that i have such great memories of the group. >> me, too.
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>> permeated so much of my life, just as a fan. and i think so many millions like me around the world. >> all i can say is wonderful, wonderful memories. that was mo's lead on that song. >> what would you like the bee gees to be remembered for, do you think? >> song writing. and harmony, you know? ourselves, but we knew when we had a great one. >> i sang that on the very show with kenny rogers. >> kenny said to me, i still don't know what that song is about. >> i was the dolly role and kenny sang his role. safe to say i murdered your best song. >> i doubt that.
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>> i could talk to you all night. it's been fabulous talking to you. i'm a huge, unabashed fan of you and your brothers. i wish you all the success. tickets go on sale january 31 on livenation.com. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? ♪
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