>> i will answer your question. let me get hers. >> [inaudible]. >> obviously that's always ongoing in the entire network. the thing that a lot of people drive our interstate system know this very well. we have a lot of truck traffic coming up and down and out 285. 75, 85, and i-20. we have probably an excessive amount of truck traffic. there will be things that are going to be i think addressed in a better fashion with regard to how do we keep the truck traffic out in a time where the weather

conditions have become problematic. that will be a part of the future reforms that we would be putting in place that requires coordination with the highway department. >> you talk about that and do you think the public schools will be cancelling schools and closing government buildings? >> we closed it today. we will make a decision as to whether or not we close it tomorrow. probably i'm thinking at this point in time if the roadways clear up and i hope they will, we would not necessarily call a halt to state government. that is always something that

could change if the weather changes itself. i am very confident we can do that. i would like to see as many of them removed with the assistance of the state control and the national guard being willing to transport people to their vehicles and assist them in getting them started. with gasoline or a jump-start if those are needs they might have. we much prefer that people get their vehicles on their own and we certainly want to minimize the number of vehicles that have to be removed. let me get back to your question. >> i do. i went there because i was asked by georgia who had selected them to introduce him since i have been the recipient of that award. i think that was all together

appropriate for me to do that. i stayed a minimal period of time and left immediately after i introduced him after they pencilled everything we had to concentrate on this issue. >> governor, what do you say to the rest of the country who looks at atlanta and says this is just crazy. >> i think they should start by getting the facts right. some of the national media outlets have been saying that georgia has been in school for the second night. that's wrong. i understand that one of the neighboring statingses who did declare a state of emergency much earlier than we did. they do have children. >> the city that can't move its people in a modern american city that considers itself a world destination, why is it that they can't get home in this kind of rain? >> why is it we don't have

operational activities? i am not blaming it on them, but they can make any excuse and we have to deal with the realities we have. >> i was in the office by 6:30. they received the order about letting the state employees go. i let those go that lived the further a away first and tried to maintain as much staff. one of the staff members ended up leaving at 1:00 and lives inside of the 285 and it was a 5 1/2 hour commute for her to

get home. >> as i came down, i listened in the morning and even though the warning was out, it was only going to get a dusting. this was going to be -- [inaudible] . >> about 9:30, 10:00. >> we started very early in the morning and the planning continued throughout the day. he was ensuring that if and when the time came, i was not at the command center personally. where was i first thing in the morning?

in the house. i was still at my house and making my way here. earlier in the morning. not at 3:30, but earlier in the morning. i'm a bit of a weather buff so i was watching closely. thank you. >> i know you could probably continue to ask me questions all afternoon. let me remind you that most of you were here at i believe it was 11:00 on tuesday evening and we had a press conference at that point in time. my staff and i continued to do as much planning and preparations as we could about 1:30 in the morning. we put in time obviously and the problem and the regrets i have are on the front end. i am pleased with the responses that our people made under very, very difficult circumstances. i think that is the measure we

need to remember. however there will be ongoing discussions with the agencies about what can we do better to prepare. how can we make sure that the weather forecasts that are coming out of the service are updated. in terms of our attention in terms of our actions. i can say this to you. we will be more aggressive and we will take those weather warnings more seriously. there will be as a consequence of that, probably more occasions at which we will declare emergencies where the emergency will not manifest itself. i believe in light of this circumstance that we should all err on the side of being more aggressive in our predictions. i will conclude with that and we will keep you updated. when we had the thorough review of action plans for the future, we will make aware of what those

will be and have follow-ups to let you know how successful we have been on making sure that the obviouslies that are stranded have been removed. >> for the past 40 minutes, you have been listening to the governor of georgia speaking from the capitol a couple blocks away from here at cnn. we sent a correspondent to him. we heard a major 180 from the governor and now essentially apologizing. we heard an apology yesterday from the mayor and now an apology from the governor to all of those who have been stranded on the roadways for 12, 16, some 24 hours. we have a correspondent in the room and we heard the questions here. we are getting questions answered. much-needed questions answered from the man who ultimately oversees the state and the state

oversees the highways. let's listen back in. we will come back. more than 48 hours after a snowstorm paralyzed parts of the south. atlanta is still digging out. there hundreds of abandoned cars littering the roads. primary and secondary highways. hundreds have been towed and the city is waiting for the owners to get them. the big question today summed up in the headline that streams across the frontline of atlanta's newspaper, the journal constitution, you see the words there. how did this happen? the two men taking the most heat, heard from one of them, georgia governor nathan deal. satterized and making snow angels while atlanta was in the midst of an icy gridlock. you heard from governor deal appeared in a news conference

and right out of the gate, this man apologized. >>y want to start out by apologizing to those individuals who were stranded on our roadways and to the parents whose children were unable to return home in a timely fashion. i accept responsibility for the fact that we did not make restrictions early enough. as a parent i certainly understand how someone would feel if their child was either on a school bus or at a school and unable to come become home. >> we sent a correspondent to the governor and we are standing by to get him. is this going to happen again? is anyone going to resign and we will get those in just a minute. the governor's office is just a short couple of blocks and thus far getting governor deal right here to talk to me. no dies. the invitation, the governor

still stands. how is atlanta doing and what's happening with the cars and the people abandoned them at the height of this mess. people can claim their cars and victor blackwell overlooking the highways in the city. the downtown connector. let's begin with you. talk to me about the cars. there is a process for folks to pick them up. >> very early this morning, the georgia emergency management agency established a civil emergency that would ask people to stay off the roads. the interstates going through the metro area. this is as you said the 7585 interchange. there is constant traffic and no major problems. there just down here a truck that has been here and two cars behind it that have been sitting here all morning.

here's the process. also the georgia state patrol and nose members would meet and people trying to get their cars and two different locations and take them to the vehicle fist necessary. a few gallons to get to a gas station if necessary. that process continues. as it relates to the drive here, it has been moving smoothly. a truck or two behind it. they were abandoned. >> it's the little things for people in atlanta. george, to you. we know you took a drive around town this morning and found a lot of the cars around the roadway. you are at a tow lot. tell me people are not having to pay to get their cars. >> here's the deal. if people don't get their cars today, by 9:00 p.m. eastern time, there is a possibility that the private tow truck

companies will tow the cars. there is a possibility people could have to pay for the cars. that aside, talking about the news conference they heard, it was interesting as you mentioned. the 180 hearing from the governor. just to get a sense of what it was like when they heard the questions from martin savage. we heard the governor admitting that the response was not adequate and fast enough. they are all over it. we are seeing the national guard here. helping people get to the cars. we know that some 2,000 cars plus are still out there. it is a slow, but deliberate process to see people these guys where the car is and they take them out in the hummers out to the places where they believe the cars are still located. so far we are hearing success stories and people who walk away from their cars are finding their cars and it's a process that hopefully people can get

their cars before 9:00 eastern. >> they will say hey, look. my car has been out on the road. they are going to get towed. if they are not towed, i will put them in a humvee and send them out to the vehicles. >> this is a process that will continue for the next several hours again. they are showing up to this location. the south part of the city. the hope is they will get to the cars. >> thank you so much for the heads up there. did i mention that the governor's office is mere blocks away from us? did i mention that the world

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attorney general eric holder he is allowing the state of massachusetts to seek the death penalty in that federal court for the bombing suspect. i have former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst sunny hostin joining me now. react to that news for me. >> i don't think this was a surprise to most people. i had the opportunity when i was covering the bulger case to speak with the u.s. attorney in boston, carmen ortiz and i asked about the decision being made. she couldn't comment at that time, but it was in the hands of the justice department along with the office's recommendation. we know or at least can glean from the decision that the office did recommend the death penalty. i will tell you this, it is not an easy process in terms of the justice department's decision to go forward on a death penalty recommendation. >> how does one arrive at this decision?

>> there is an office at the department that handles these recommendations. it is reviewed by many, many attorneys. it tends to be case-specific. this is a process that has many, many layers. the attorney general generally accepts the recommendation of the core group of people that reviewed the cases. it's not a decision that is made lightly with the process in place. we know that the process took place and the attorney general is. >> how have they been looking ahead to if and when this trial takes place. how will this affect a jury's decision. >> it becomes a very different type of case. we have seen that when there is a death penalty case. and federal courts. also of course state by state.

i think that he hired an attorney that is well versed in death penalty cases, but juries struggle, i think. during voyeur dire, the jury in the event they find him guilty will and can impose the death penalty. it adds a completely different dynamic to this case. if you speak to a lot of people in boston, most people believe that if ever there is a case for the death penalty, this case certainly would apply given the facts and given the maiming and the horrible deaths that we saw. >> horrendous event last april. i will never forget it. justice correspondent evan perez, what more can you share?

>> brooke, this has been a big decision weighing on the attorney general for some weeks now. we thought maybe this was going to go down to the wire. we had until tomorrow to make a decision. there was a lot of difficult things on this one. the suspect is only 20 years old. there was a lot of push that he was too young to carry this out. he was under the influences of his brother was another issue that was brought up. federal authorities say the older brother was the big driver of this plot. although they say that he was a willing participant in the bombing. obviously this is an issue with massachusetts, the federal death penalty exists, but in massachusetts they haven't put anybody to death in that case. this is all things weighing on the mind of the attorney general in the last few weeks he was trying to make a decision.

he finally did authorize the decision to seek the death penalty after weighing all of these things. we have a statement issued a little while ago in which he said after consideration of the relevant facts, the applicable regulations and submissions, i determined that the united states will seek the death penalty this this matter. the nature of the conduct at issue and the result is harm from this decision. he was saying that the terribleness of this crime that he is accused of is what led him to make this decision. he hasn't done this often. not as often as his predecessors. he is authorized and he has done it and here he has done it again.

>> this is a young man's life. he considered arriving at that decision. jane velez mitchell said we heard from sunny and evan. your reaction to the news. >> the death penalty is a polarizing issue and raises a lot of moral questions. i agree with sunny. if there was a case that called for the death penalty, this is it. this case has been so devastating to so many people and impacted virtually every american's life. it changed how we behave in public places. however it's a very young defendant. what we learned in death penalty cases is people say hypothetically they are capable of voting for the death penalty, but when it comes time and they are face-to-face with the individual, it becomes less of a hypothetical and more of a and death dilemma and sometimes they can't go forward. if they could not go forward in this case, that would really be a huge blow to proponents of the

death penalty and might have the reverse effect of people who were proponents saying if you can't do it in this case, you can never do it. it might have a lot of political ramifications. >> we knew the decision was looming for eric holder. i'm not sure if you are still in dagestan, but that is where they hailed from when the boston bombings happened. we talked to the mother and spoke with the mother since we knew the decision would be made. what has she shared with you? >> i should point out i did speak to the mother minutes before the decision was in fact announced. she said to me that's one thing she wanted the whole world to hear. i love my son. my precious son. leave me alone and i have nothing more to say. i won't say a million times, i love my son. i love allah and i love my jo

har. she is clearly deeply distressed. it was no secret that many people observed this case and the decision was likely to be he would seek death penalty despite the cause of the united states. it's the toughest decision sought by the prosecutors in places like this. i think the reason i got to speak to her was the distress she has been under as a mother. that's in the past months. she spoke to the father. he had little to say and i asked if he wanted to make a statement and he wanted to be left alone as well. he went on to add she had nothing in our heads or hearts. can you imagine she said what continue i'm in? what can i say? what can you understand? what can i say?

i'm sickened by what happened. that's a real sign of how they feel about their son's innocence. they are not guilty to the stage. they are like many people in southern russia who have suspicions and don't trust the russian government. that translates into a mistrust of the charms against him by the american government. they believe maybe he was framed or perhaps hasn't been said. this is deeply repugnant to if his loved ones were hurt in the explosion. a real sense from the mother of exhaustion and even before we heard the certainty that this death penalty would be sought and love for her son and exhaustion by that. >> the pictures reminds me of him talking to his young friends

from high school and the picture of this good kid and good wrestler. never in a million years would they think he was capable of this. depending on how the system follows through. to think this young man could be put to death for the horror that happened in boston. >> the question many of us wanted answered from the governor of georgia. why are you not doing an interview with us? that answer is next. s heart attk didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.

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. more breaking news for you on this thursday. let me glance down at the e-mail. a reported school shooting in florida. this is what we have. the shooting has been reported in palm bay campus parking lot at eastern florida state college. the campus is on lockdown and people asked to stay inside with the doors locked. this is eastern florida state college in the palm bay campus. this is according to the school. we are making phone calls as soon as we had more information on this. back to our other breaking story. the wintry wet weather and the massive mess out of atlanta. moments ago we heard from the georgia governor. this 180 from what we had seen 24 hours ago, peering at the news conference and out of the gate apologizing to all the drivers who were stranded. >> i want to start out by apologizing to those individuals who were stranded on the

roadways and the parents whose children were unable to return home in a timely fashion. i accept responsibility for the fact that we did not make preparation early enough to avoid these consequences. as a parent, i certainly understand how someone would feel if their child was either on a school bus or at a school and unable to come back home. >> the snowstorm that paralyzed atlanta is giving rise to many, many stories of heroism and good will and southern hospitality and people reaching out in a time of crisis. they are opening their own homes to total strangers like this guy next to me. this was a good samaritans. you were stopped, right? >> i was stopped, but thank you. you did amazing coverage yesterday. i don't know how many shows you were on. cnn's information was helpful in a crisis.

i don't think we knew. they were heading home and on the road for two hours. i lived in boston and philly and washington, d.c. west virginia. you live here now. two inches doesn't sound like a lot. two inches? what happened over that eight hours? it became that black ice. my car was spinning and i had the suv. not expecting anything out of the ordinary other than going home. they were walking with different people and there is a huge slope where i live. hundreds of cars and the drop off with no guardrails. it really touched me when i approached one of the cars to see if it was a young mom hysterically crying with two infants. all i could say is okay, we are not going to leave you. we will get you out of here. >> the operation is, we are not going home.

>> females and males. people down to kitty litter. don't stand behind the car when you put kitty litter down. >> you took that in yourself? >> they got the lady out with your kids and there were hundreds of cars. everybody would do that. we got on the cell phones and calling people in the north saying they had a problem with his car from the north. we had a canadian in the group. who ended up at my house? a woman from india and a man from canada and a guy from marietta. i'm a bachelor so it wasn't much food. >> we were showing them, you had such a smile on your face with a man and his wife and child, he finally got home and reunited. do you have a clear house? is everyone gone?

>> as of an hour ago, but with the reporting you guys are doing, you can't be on the road. i feel like a mother hen. let me know you made it home safe. they had hundreds of people out on the streets for five hours with no gloves helping each other out. that's a story we hear over and over and over again. i think that's what makes it great. >> awesome job. rock o my friend. coming up here, much more on the story including reaction to the complete reversal of the governor. i have a former nfl story standing by. live in times square from the super bowl after this break. pies would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. [ male announcer ] just a few dabs is clinically proven

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. >> throwing a lot of yards and touchdowns. i am actually quite proud of it. >> peyton manning throws what? the broncos qb echoing guess who. the seahawks richard sherman who said of his opponent, his passes are accurate, they arrive on time, but he throws ducks. if i'm correct, that is football lingo as in wounded ducks. no spiral on the ball, not

pretty and as richard sherman acknowledged, it works. he is just days away. i want to go straight to new york to jerome bets. nice to have you on. >> thanks for having me. >> you may remember this. the bus here won his only super bowl in the final game at this storied career with the steelers. jerome's sixth all time rushing. you are on pins and needles. me about this little decision happening this weekend. >> there is a decision that will take place this saturday and there will be a vote for the nfl beat writers and the sports writers about the hall of fame. there is a possibility that i could get in on the finalists. we will see what happens.

when you were talking. i'm wearing it. >> it's a special time. >> how special was that game for you? >> it was incredibly special because i'm born and raised in detroit and super bowl was in my hometown. it was a cold weather super bowl. there was a dome so we didn't have to worry about the weather. my career ended for where it began. >> you mentioned the cold. he throws ducks. is that why he has such a hard time winning the cold. this is east rutherford new

jersey. >> he played in these conditions before and he played in new york. i don't believe that these conditions will determine who wins the football game. he knows how to throw the ball in the cold. he doesn't do all the spirals all the time. his balls always get there on time. he is one of the quarterbacks that throws the spirals all the time. >> what's it like having the eyeballs on you are you even aware of that? >> you know what, you are before the game starts. you are thinking about it, but once the whistle blows and they kick the ball off, the mind goes back into football mode and say this is a football game and you get right back into it. moments when you say a time out and you are looking around and you can kind of look at the

magnitude of the game. when that whistle blows, you are back in the game. >> it's game time. you are up there doing something with courtyard. is that right? tell me about that. >> yesterday we had a bus ride that was very appropriate. we had a bus ride with fans and friends that from the courtyard, we went down to times square to the middle of it all. it was an opportunity and they have a program called greatness on the road. those types of experiences for their friends and clients. it was a great opportunity and i was glad to be a part of it. >> it's fantastic. it's cold. it looks like it. i'm sorry i'm not standing there with you today, but you have your scarf and the super bowl

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. >> quick question. i want you to be the judge here. thug. which of these guys is the thug? >> i'm the best quarterback in the game. that's the result you are going to get. don't you ever talk about me!

>> so the first guy there in that matchup video, richard sherman, seattle seahawks who dropped the rant heard around the world. as for the other man, the one who threatened there to break someone in half, he can't possibly be a thug, can he? after all, this is a member of congress we are talking about. michael grim is a republican under investigation for finance wrong-doing. he didn't seem to want to talk about it one bit as that reporter tried to go there. is he a thug too. remember, people came out of the woodwork calling sherman a thug like that. what about michael grim? don lemon has a thing ore two to say about this one.

don, i haven't heard the word thug apply to the congressman. you can think of any reason why richard sherman is called a thug in the ether of social media and michael grim is not? >> i can't really think of one reason. i'm trying very hard. obviously i'm being facetious and sarcastic. it's about perceptions of who we think are thugs. what thugs look like. it's really our own personal perception. i don't want to go as far as saying it's race. some people will say that. probably most would. that's why you don't hear the word thug thrown around by the congressman. >> wasn't it richard sherman who said i believe thug is synonymous with the n word. he said yes, ma'am. it means the same thing. >> yes, it depends on the content.

i don't think in every particular case it has to do with race, but in richard sherman's case, it has to do with race. people get uncomfortable and i have been examining that week in omaha. the only way sometimes to penetrate people's perceptions about certain things is to talk about it. you have to crack it and say hey, listen, you said this about that person. why is that? that's the perception of the professional athlete versus a member of the congress. very different. >> very different. one wears a suit and one wears a uniform. they are both uniforms.

that's what they need in order to do his business. richard sherman has his uniform. a football uniform. that's what he needs. still, it's all the same thing. it's all equal. except, brooke, one wears dread looks and the other is a lighter hew. you figure it out. >> i know what you are saying. the other interesting part is when you hear the reaction from sherman and as he talked to rachel snake ols and took it incredibly seriously. athena jones ran him down the hall way and at some point we saw my camera saying my italian mother will have a thing or two to say about that. their reactions were different. is that because of the way people reacted to them? >> i don't know how to answer that. i don't know how to answer that.

i think the reaction is different. it's because this is america. we have issues when it comes to race and when it comes to going back to that word perception. how you think others should be. what's the first thing you jump to and perceive about someone else when they act a certain way. i was talking about this with sunny hostin. when she is strong, people perceive her as an angry black woman. if i am opinionated, people perceive me as an angry black man. my counterpart is someone who is strong about their feelings. know what is they want. doesn't take any stuff. for that reason, that is why the congressman was elected twice. people believe that he is a strong guy. he stands up against the media. he may not have trouble getting reelected. people in his district i read believe that he is the guy who

has that sort of personality. >> some people call it moxie. >> good way of putting it. >> he apologized and having lunch with the reporter in that exchange. >> just as a side note, thank you very much. just a thought bubble we wanted to have percolating here. send me a tweet. now this. >> gentlemen, the beatles! ♪ >> oh, the squeals. you can believe it's been half a century since beatle mania rocked the u.s. the vice president of the rock 'n' roll hall of fame about the music. which songs stand out when talking about their legacy?

50 years ago next month. this hit the u.s. and changed

how americans look and what they do. brace your ears for this clip. ♪ when i say that something ♪ i want to hold your hand ♪ i want to hold your hand ♪ i want to hold your hand ♪ oh, please say to me ♪ you'll let me be your man ♪ and please say to me >> you can't not sing along. the vice president of education for the rock 'n' roll hall of fame, nice to have you on. >> good to be here. isn't that an amazing clip. you can't leave it alone. >> amazing. given the context of what we just saw, the beatles were popular before ed sullivan. why was that appearance such a turning point? >> it really explodes them in

america throughout 1963. their popularity built in england and across europe. they had not broken through here at all and they had such an important show. what's great about the clip, it's not just the band. you will see how people react to the band. that's part of the phenomenon. they feel excited and that's what you perceive on younger musicians and fans in 2014. >> they established the rock 'n' roll band. sax players and lead singers. the model that they perfected. writing their own songs carried on forever. we teach thousands of kids every near here in cleveland. no matter how young they are, they know the bealtss and the music reason sets for them.

the body of work and people keep finding meaning and value in it. they don't hear it as the music of the past. they can grab on to it. the songs are so crafted. >> i have been there and rock 'n' roll hall of fame. this is the mecca of the hall of fame. do you have a factoid or artifact from the era? >> we will be unveiling on february 9th, the anniversary of the ed sullivan show that john lennon bought that week. he performed on the second ed sullivan show that week. they did two in the course of a week. in new york and one in miami. he bought that guitar and we will unveil them. we have all kinds of fabulous beatles artifacts including john lennon.

>> do you want to ask me to pick your favorite child. >> i will pick from this era. all this great music that was coming out of america. they did a great cover of smokey robinson and the miracles you really got a hold on me. i love that because it shows they had their ears to the ground. they were in love with american music. they wanted to figure out how it was made. i love that idea that they were dialling into motown and came to the u.s. >> they're hit it. from rock 'n' roll hall of fame, thank you so much for joining me. see how it all unfolded. the british invasion premiers tonight here on cnn.

>> breaking news. a death sentence. the heaviest punishment for what some say was the most vicious crime possible. the indiscriminate last april on boylston street. now we are learning from the attorney general eric holder that he is allowing the feds to seek a possible death penalty for the bombing suspect. he and his older brother allegedly set off two pressure cooker bombs near the finish line of that storied race. three people were killed. days later the brothers allegedly also killed a police officer in his own patrol car as part of the get away. as the hunt continued, his older brother was killed in a shootout with police. joining me now, susan candiotti

and national correspondent sunny hostin and in russia where the boston bombers come from. this is our correspondent there. susan candiotti, first to you, me how rare of a move this is for the attorney general. >> certainly he has been personally opposed to the death penalty all his career. he always said he would carry out the possibility as it is the law of the land. it is quite rare and interestingly enough, only three people have been executed in the united states under the federal death penalty since it was reinstated many years ago. one of them was oklahoma city bomber, timothy mcveigh and i covered that case. there is no state death penalty in massachusetts. that's something else to consider. most people in the state of massachusetts do not favor the death penalty. those are the people who will make up this jury.

>> you can't help but not think of the victims. not just the families who lot of loved ones and lives, but scores of people there in boston. you have a different perspective and you spoke moments before the decision came down to the boy's mother. >> she is clearly very distraught. before she heard this decision by the attorney general, i spoke to the father a couple of times over the past couple days and he had nothing to say at all. the mother clearly emotional said she was tired and sick to the heart and cent saying how much she loved her son and wanted to say a million times she loved allah and the prophet mohammad and loved her son. it's difficult to hear what she said at times. she was clearly distraught. here's what she had to say.

>> it's hard to even speak. why can't you understand? what do you want me to say? what do you think i will be able to say at all? what chance at all? >> in many ways, it's difficult to tell, but you can hear in the tone of her voice perhaps expecting this decision and many a distrustful person against him, born of a distrust of government in general in russia where i am standing. she maintains her son's innocence and you can hear the emotion in her voice. how difficult that has been for her group. >> not surprising from a mother of susan candiotti. the victims and survivors really is what i like to call them with the boston bombing. they have emotional stars

forever. s lot of. have you been in contact with the victim's families. >> certainly in the past. we asked the opinion of many of these victims. a lot of them i think wanted to wait until this day to publicly share their views on the death penalty in this case. many of them haven't said publicly if not most of them happened here. the u.s. government and justice department did reach out to the victims and we are talking about 250 people who were injured including the deaths of two young women and the 8-year-old boy who was killed. they were asked to fill out the questionnaire of what i thought. whether prosecutors should pursue the matter. that is part of what the government considered in this case. in addition to the weight of the evidence that they have built, are building in their case against him.

including i might add, remember there laptops of his in which prosecutors allege that he downloaded instructions on how to make the pressure cooker bombs. in addition downloading a jihadist color signed by the likes of anwr and he was hiding out before he was captured. he put together a quote to remind you of it. he said the u.s. government is killing our innocent civilians and i can't stand to see such evil go unpunished. i don't like killing innocent people. stop killing our innocent people and we will stop. some powerful evidence there for the government as they put together their case. >> sunny hostin as a former federal prosecutor, susan mentioned there is no death

penalty. it was outlawed in the state of massachusetts. this was rare on a federal level. what do you make of the decision? >> i think we should stress that there is a protocol when it comes to the federal death penalty. that's different than any other protocol. there is a capital case that gets the recommendation from the u.s. attorney in this case in boston. reviews the case. after it gets to the capital case unit. it good along to senior reviews committee. they not only meet with the unit attorneys, they also meet with the council and also sometimes reach out to victims. they look at the factors and make the recommendation. after reviewing all of the information, the attorney general makes this recommendation. this is a well-planned, well thought out process and not a decision that is come to easily. one thing i would like to mention is you have to remember

that she is probably and i believe she is, the best death penalty defense attorney in this country. remember she represented the unibomber and represented i think jared loughner and represented zacharius moussaoui. all of them were facing the death penalty and got in prison as their defense attorney. i suspect at this point judy clark is going to reach out and try to convince them that there enough mitigating factors so this young man because he is only 19 should go to prison for the rest of his life rather than be executed. we will hear a bit from judy clark very soon. >> sunny hostin in new york. all the way in russia. thank you very much. more to breaking news from the debacle happening in a major

american city. more than 48 hours after the snowstorm paralyzed parts of the south in atlanta. still digging out. hands of abandoned cars still littering roads. hundreds more have been towed and the city is waiting for the owners to get them. the big question there on the minds of many in atlanta, the question on the front page of the constitution, how did this happen? the two men who have been on the receiving end of much of the heat. nathan deal and reid sky rised in a cartoon showing them making snow angels while they were in the midst of an icy gridlock. both politicians, headed to friendlier ground to make their case. reid appearing on nbc. he 4 appeared there as well. nathan deal on fox news. he has been trying to get them to do an interview. it's a couple of blocks away

from the world headquarters and thus far no dies. just about an hour ago, governor deal faced reporters at this news conference and apologized right out of the gate. he took responsibility and promised to be better prepared. if there is a next time. >> we will keep from filing a new plan of action for similar events in the future. i think we did not respond fast enough. we did not respond in the magnitude at an earlier enough time to be able to void some of these consequences. we can make excuses about the fact that this happened in the middle of the day during a workweek. that did of course complicate the situation. nevertheless, we will be much more cautious and much more aggressive in terms of taking action in advance of future situations. >> and cnn's martin savage was

at the news conference that just wrapped up with nathan deal apologizing. it was quite the 180. >> it was. you have to realize two big things going on here in north georgia and atlanta. the first is quieting rid of the snow and the other is the political mess about the mayor and the governor that they felt they were inas as a result of huge public backlash. so many people affect and so angry. we saw the governor come forward. he began right away saying i am sorry. you could tell he was obviously very, very sad about what happened. let me give you a couple of quotes. he said i am not satisfied with the response, but i am not going to look for a scapegoat. i am the governor and the buck stops here. that's a strong statement to make. pointing out in november. he wants to look like the man in charge now. if he wasn't then.

he admits they goofed and they made a big mistake. the man who was the head of the emergency management agency said it's my fault. he knew that it came out and he did not notify the governor's office. he said about 9:30 in the morning. >> so the governor of georgia has been in the studio and i interviewed him as well. you asked him because he has yet to sit in this room. we asked him why to do the interview. >> he was angry. he was angry in a sense. he feels that the coverage has been highly critical or over the top. i think anyone behind the wheel or worried about their child because of the school bus said they had every right to be critical. they had seen the coverage. i said you are not going to grant the interview because they

are angry at the people of the nation. >> then he launched into a real angry tirade demanding an apology. >> let's listen. we have the sound. roll it. >> governor, will you give an interview to cnn please. >> one on one. >> a one on one, sir. >> i'm not so sure i will. if they don't get their predictions correct, we have children in school overnight. >> you are not giving the interview because of that. >> we apologize for telling the world we had children in school for overnight. >> if you give us an interview.

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. more information about the justin bieber bad boy run. the miami beach police indicates bieber had marijuana and xanax in his system when officers arrested him for dui and driving on knowa expired license. here's insight on what went on that night. the officer checked off all these boxes about the singer's

behavior noting he was excited, talkative, used profanity, cooperative and yet insulting and cocky. these are actually the words on the report. in this crush of cameras, this was lat night as he turned himself in for a case in toronto, canada. police have charged bieber with assaulting a local limo driver for an incident back on december 30th. there is another possible case. the l.a. county sheriff's department raided bieber's mansion, looking for evidence he might have egged his neighbor's house. remember the alleged $20,000 in damage from egging? joining me now is nancy grace. so nancy grace, we now have these active cases and three separate parts of the continent. first in miami, we know he took

the breathalyzer tests and they were you should the legal limit. we are learning about the xanax and the pot at the time of his arrest. how did the other drugs play into the charge? >> here's the problem. just because you are not at the legal limit, if you are driving under the influence or driving impaired, you have a problem especially as a 19-year-old when you are not supposed to be drinking at all. that puts him driving impaired with the xanax. that will end up being his word and all the witness's words against the cop. he's going to turn on his actions. did he see or act impaired. the limit, the amount of drugs or alcohol in his system.

i consider to be one of the most serious allegations. i don't think that will amount to a hill of beans. if you look at the big picture, you have toronto and l.a. and miami beach. it sounds like a tour leg. it's not. it's where he will have court appearances. the that might cost the most is l.a. where i come from, you got egg on your front door, you hose it off. >> this is felony vandalism. >> out in california, oh, yeah. it will be ecopaint and they will have to remove the egg in a hazmat egg and is it an organic egg and fancy paint that costs a lot of money. that's going to cost him. money is like water to him. that means nothing. >> i'm still like how do you egg a house to do this much damage. >> $20,000. >> that's a lot of damage. you heard about that it calls for justin bieber to be deported.

>> blah blah blah. >> the petition gets a lot of signatures. you know the petitions. the white house might have to review this. what are the chances this guy is sent back to canada. >> i'm not interested in politics. i think they are all lying, but barack obama just said that pot is okay so i doubt he will be that angry over bieber. another thing about the petition, i'm not down with that. i will tell you why. you get possibly deported if you commit a felony such as murder, rape, aggravated sodomy and those types of crimes or a crime of moral term turn tud. he didn't do anything of that. this is like a popularity contest. 100,000 people don't like him and he is kicked out of the country. i would not act on a petition by

a bunch of anti-biebers. he better be worried about toronto where he allegedly hit a limo driver. he is charged with a misdemeanor. he got a big character boost from the mayor. the that was caught dancing after the cocaine. i would not take life advice from him. >> okay. nancy grace, i will quote. i am not down with that. we love having you on. >> that's a legal term. i took three years of law school to get that. >> from hl nweke nights. nancy grace, thank you. >> coming up next, two inches of snow and headlines in the paper. how can this happen? we will ask that question. georgia was not the only state dealing with major wintry weather problems. in alabama, for example, big back up led to a new baby. we are talking live with the

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. >> the governor of georgia is apologizing for the debacle in atlanta. they are going to retrieve their cars that they had to abandon on the highways and the interstates. so many of them ran out of gas. they are stuck. take a look at the headline from the paper out of the atlanta journal of constitution. four words. how did this happen? who if any person is to blame for this mess and what impact will this have long-term on atlanta if this happens again, heaven forbid.

a radio personality is with me here in studio 7. katie leslie is the reporter for the ajc. ladies, welcome to both of you and let me begin. you need to reiterate and play the sound from just about an hour ago. >> having said i'm not satisfied, i'm not going to look for state goffs. i'm the governor and the buck stops with me and i accept responsibility for it and also accept the responsibility of being able to make corrective actions as they come in the future. >> we heard the i'm sorry from the mayor yesterday. now finally a couple of days later, we hear from governor deal. that's do you think that's what people wanted? they accept responsibility? >> sure. it was a great performance and it came off sincere. it was completely late. i felt like if you could have

done that on the day that this was going on and gave parents reassurance that i'm sorry. i'm doing whatever i can. it's too late. >> on the flip side, if the roles had been reversed. you all would be getting on us because you wasted the money. >> it was a way to say this is what would happen if i did this. i could feel the snow chill in the air. >> i knew the snow chill. how come they did it. >> katie, to you. what do you think of the response? they have been through the storms before and they accused him of screwing up the city's

response on the national stage. you have your paper. this cartoon showed a paper guys. you have the mayor and the governor here making snow angels while people are stuck on highways. what do you make of that? taking responsibility for what he could and not correctly criticizing the allies. it took a bit to say i am sorry. i think we have as he made the round of media interviews and at times combative. certainly after 2011 we thought it will be better this time. the circumstances are entirely different and obviously not with a better result. >> you had a heads up on sunday. i was here for that in 2011. we need to stay off the roads. it was like somebody blew a whistle and you had massive

gridlock. if you are not in atlanta and further with the stereotype. they can't handle the snow. forbes.com. he writes this. i suspect after watching the news tuesday, the nfl commissioner got out the city and crossed atlanta's name off. imagine if a couple of inches of snow fell and people couldn't get to the game. can you imagine a super bowl? that's the nfl's horror movie. atlanta getting a new pretty stadium. they would love to host a super bowl. do they have that possibility? >> i sweeted that as soon as it happened. i said to myself, not only are we building this stadium for a billion dollar stadium yard to get a super bowl.

all the other reasons are ancillary to getting a super bowlme bowlment. only days away. >> do you agree? >> this is a little bit out of my house. i have written about the stadium deal. i haven't studied how the nfl makes decisions for where they put a super bowl, but i will say with the ajc, they wrote a piece saying this is not going to make or break us in the future. the stadium will open and by that time it will have been four years. by then they will give competitions the opportunity to encounter another snowstorm. we got it right if that happens. >> let's hope so. with the atlanta journal constitution. thank you. very much, ladies. coming up next, thousands were stranded when the southern states were slammed by the winter storm this week. my next guest had a particularly challenging time because she was stuck at home nine months

pregnant and then went into labor. we will talk to the new mom about her story. don't miss that. also ahead, pope francis, have seen the cover of rolling stone in an honor typically for musicians and famous folks. now the pope. why rolling stone decided to put pope francis smack dab on the cover. stay here. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®.

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. >> past the bottom of the hour. you know the biggest sports in tv advertising event of the year is three days away. super bowl 48 will be played at met life stadium in east rutherford, new jersey. a preview from super bowl boulevard in sometimes square. i will be there this time tomorrow. introduce me to your friend next to you. covered like 40 years worth of super bowls? >> oh, my gosh. this guy is a sports legend. he said no, we drove. >> this is lynn berman. >> i grew up watching. >> i said oh, my god.

>> outside with the great don lemon. >> nice. >> this is lynn berman. >> brooke seems totally under wellmed. >> they seem so impressed with you guys. >> we were sitting here talking about what this was in atlanta this week. >> let's not talk about that. >> everyone was pitching about the traffic and how it was. can you imagine? i'm a native new yorker, but i was not in favor of the cold weather super bowl site not only for the game, but what's going on here. the crowds are twice as large. >> i spoke to someone who tracks tickets. they are down about 25%. reason is because of the cold. the weather. people don't want to sit outside, especially if they are paying that much for a ticket. >> also the run up. the nfl will dodge a big bullet.

they will be okay. >> we are sitting here on super bowl boulevard. this is the first if for times square. this is like having new year's eve for a week here. they blocked off times square up to 47th street and beyond. >> i looked for kathy griffin. i have been fine. we are. we are the version. what do you think of this? with people who are visiting -- >> this is quite a spectacle. new york being new york, if you go block over to 6th avenue, this is such -- what they say about the super bowl is it will do a rating in new york city. a lot going on. >> who do you think is going to win? sherman has been getting a lot of attention. what do you think about the game? >> here's how i phrase it. defense always wins the super

bowl. it has to be seattle. the experienced quarterback will hold so that's peyton manning. there you go. >> that's it? >> any other questions? >> you are not giving me anything. >> why i don't lovemaking predictions, can you imagine when the guy misses the field goal? they can miss it right now. >> you know what else we have talked about, the drama goes on. it has been going on since lady liberty. who owns the statue of liberty. is this a new york super bowl or new jersey? >> that's a good question. >> this is off the record. with all due respect to my friends from new jersey, this is a new york super bowl. if new york city didn't exist, new jersey would be a turnpike going to philadelphia. >> the former mayor would disagree with you. he would be saying no, no. this is a new jersey super bowl. >> brooke would be saying this

is a new jersey super bowl. >> it's my show. >> he is not working. it's her show. we will let her have it. it's a new york super bowl. all the focus is here. >> i will defer to brooke. >> thank you. >> see you tomorrow. >> i will be there with you in times square. coming up next the story on the south with the cold and the snow and a mother stuck at home because of the storm and she couldn't make it to the hospital. months here almost with child and went into labor and delivered it little one. we will talk to her about the story, next. weights.

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you. >> back to the snowstorm and the thousands who were stranded in it, amid all the sliding going on in birmingham, alabama, something else was getting ready to happen as the roads became congest and traffic ground to a halt. the labor pains began for mom. she was stuck at home and so home was where little baby winter was born. appropriately named. here she is. baby winter. now ma'am joins me on the phone from birmingham. little baby winter is asleep you were saying during commercial break. how are you feeling? >> i'm doing good. >> take me back to how this happened. i understand that the ambulance that was en route to you got in an accident and a

weather-related accident? what happened next? >> they had an accident and it took seconds for them to get there. when i came out the back she told me that they had an accident. she was like you are at home by yourself? i was like no. so we had put the phone on speaker phone and she told my boyfriend, she was like get ready for the baby. we were all chaotic like what? i'm not going to deliver the baby. she started giving her the instructions so he could prepare himself to bring the bane into the world. he got everything and followed directions and she was talking to him. telling him what to do so he would keep calm so he wouldn't panic. he did everything. >> he did not panic? >> ma'am? >> he did not panic. >> he didn't panic.

he was saying the baby's head is coming out. he brought it and he said i had to get the baby. i pushed and after the third push she came out. they instructed him how to get the placenta out and i got the placenta off. we had a shoe string and we had to wait until they come and helped them arrive until like 4:30. we went to the hospital via the police car. we got here. >> a shoe string cutting the um bell cal cord. i am glad and kudos to the boyfriend of yours to help you walk through that whole thing. i wish you and baby winter well. thank you for sharing your story with us here on c in, n. coming up next, he just wrapped his exclusive interview with the president of the united states. i am talking about our own jack

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the president of the united states taking his state of the union message back on the road today. earlier today he spoke in wisconsin and jake tapper, anchor of "the lead" is live there. you just sat down with the president, my friend. this is the interview that we have been promoting all over this network. i am sitting here with baited breath. how did it go? >> it went well. you never have enough time to ask the questions that you want to ask but we spoke at length about what he intends to do for this new push where he says if congress doesn't act, he'll go it alone and he gave us a preview. on "the lead" we talked about

the national security agency, afghanistan, immigration reform, marijuana and, of course, during our walk and talk, a few lighter subjects as well. so it was kind of interesting. you always wish, oh, my god, after 20 minutes i wish i had 20 more minutes but i think we got some interesting news out of him and i hope you agree, brooke. >> i'm sure the 20 minutes flew by. jake tapper, i cannot wait to see. we'll look for you in ten minutes on "the lead" and, of course, we'll be tuned in for the first exclusive interview tomorrow morning on "new day" at 6:00 a.m. you know you made it big when you got a picture on "rolling stone." we'll talk to the contributing editor of the magazine about putting the pope on the cover of the magazine, next. gger or smal? [ all ] bigger!

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. sex, abortion, homosexuality, i'm not talking about some drama on television. we're talking about the very real issues that pope francis is taking head-on since being elected pope in the spring of last year, we have seen things from this pope that we have not even from any other. you know, out for a walk around rome baby lamb around his shoulders. he stopped to pick up a friend, go for a spin. but pictures in issues like this is not exactly why people see this pontiff as larger than life. some would even suggest a superhero. "time" magazine named the pope their person of the year and now the man who loved dancing the tango as a teenager has another

honor. he is on the cover of "rolling stone" magazine. pope francis, the times are achanging. the man who pinned this article joins me live. mark, welcome. >> thanks so much for having me. >> great article. something that stood out to me, a couple of graphs in and then the final graph of your piece is you compare pope francis of, of all people, president bill clinton. what do you see is the similarity there? >> there are obviously lots of differences. the main similarity is the way he thrives on being out with the public. i went to one of the pope's general audiences on wednesday at st. peter's square and he spent about an hour talking to everyone and it was kind of astounding to watch and it's very different from the previous popes, for sure.

>> you get into homosexuality specifically. the pope was asked about the existence -- this was all on that flight -- the existence of the gay lobby within the vatican and you wrote that the pope said that it's important to distinguish between lobbies, which are bad and individual gay people who are well intentioned and seeking god. when you're really looking at that transition, mah, who am i to judge? can you tell us what you think he meant by that? >> well, you often hear, who am i to judge? that's the part of the press conference on the plane that's often quoted. but mah is -- it's sort of an untranslatable phrase that means, who the heck knows. maybe a stronger word for heck. even if you watch the video

footage of the press conference, you see him pointing his fingers like this in a very italian way and doing that. and just that extra stress, really, for me summed up how sort of human he seems compared to previous popes and how, you know, just how genuine he is and and, yeah, conservatives do rightly point out that he's made no specific doctrine changes on any of these issues but i think just leading from the top and his behavior, this more tolerant language is a huge, huge change. >> mark binelli, thank you for joining me. forgive me, i need to pull away from that to go to this breaking news in my final minute and a half. amanda knox verdict has just been read. guilty. she had been acquitted of this murder conviction a couple of years ago and then the supreme

court decided they needed to take it up yet again. guilty there where you are in florence? >> reporter: that's right, brooke. after nearly 12 hours of deliberation, six jurors and two judges reached this guilty verdict finding amanda knocx fo the death of meredith kercher. her ex-boyfriend sentenced guilty as well. his passport has been confiscated. this decision is not the final word, is not the end of this legal battle. it will take this court about three months to write up this decision. they have, rather, until three months to write up this decision before it goes to italy's supreme court. the defense will have an opportunity there to appeal it. if ultimately italy's supreme court ratifies this decision, italy could request amanda

knox's extradition from the united states. >> and the question is, will she actually have to leave seattle and go back to italy for this. stay tuned for more coverage of the aftermath of this verdict in the amanda knox case there in italy. but i have to let you go. i'm brooke baldwin. jake tapper, fresh off his interview with the president of the united states live in waukesha, wisconsin. starts now. the president of the united states spoke to only one show after his state of the union address. you happen to be watching it right now. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." president obama takes his show on the road and so do we. we sat down with the commander in chief for his first interview since his state of the union address. that's moments away. the politics lead. the president in his backyard, congressman paul ryan's backyard, ryan, the man who now leads