we have that exclusive interview with president obama, but first, we want to get to major headlines.

>> in fact, the country's ambassador to the uk is saying they won't be pardoned or released before he completes his 15-year sentence of hard >> prosecutors will seek the death penalty against dzhokhar tsarnaev. u.s. attorney general eric holder cited the cruel and

>> cut a trip short after nearly 700 true and passengers got sick once again. >> hard to keep all of them straight. president obama speaking to jake tapper in his first interview since the stun address. the commander in chief promises twout will be a year of action. and he's moving forward with or without congress chl the president revealing his plan right here on cnn. talking about it, the anchor of the lead, jake tapper. >> your last name should be

french. >> it's not. it's not. >> i have to say i've been covering president obama since he was senator obama. >> and you've had several interviews with him. >> i was covering him on the campaign trail. there was a time after he clempled enough delegates. june 2008. he clenched enough delegates. and he talked about his election in terms of this would be the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and the world began to heal. now he's talking about using his pen and phone to take executive orders, executive actions. that was one of the things i wanted to ask him about. has he scaled back his ambitions and expectations for what he wants to do with the country. >> thaks for doing this mr. president. >> great to be with you. >> here is whatever you cannot accomplish with congress you will take executive action or

issue executive orders. how much can you really accomplish doing that? >> my big push is making sure we're focused on opportunity. making sure every single day all of us in washington are thinking about ways we can help all of us get good jobs, make sure the jobs pay, make sure the kids are getting a good education. those are the issues the american people still are very much concerned about. obviously, there's going to be more that we can do if congress is able to breakthrough some of the gridlock. if we're able to pass immigration reform, that is going to add growth to the economy. >> you don't seem confident that that's going to happen. >> i think we have a good chance. >> i mean the jobs issue. >> i think there are going to be some issues where it is going to be tough. i'm going to continue to reach out to them and say, here are my best ideas.

i want to hear yours. but as i said, i can't wait and the american people, more importantly cannot wait. we know that one of the biggest problems right now is the jobs market. >> people won't hire them because they've been unemployed so long. >> folks are looking at that gap in the resume and they're weeding them out before these chance get a chance for a interview. we gathered together 300 companies just to start with, including some of the top companies in the country, to say let's establish best practices. do not screen people out out of the hiring process just because they've been out of work for a long time. we just went through the worst recession since the great depression. i'll be convening a meeting where a number of these top companies will be coming in, agreeing to these best practices and have the opportunity to encourage more people to come

in. all of these things are going to have an impact. will we have more of an impact if we can get congress, for example to mass a minimum wage law that applies to everybody as opposed to me just through an executive order, absolutely. and that's why i'm going to keep on reaching out for them. but i'm not going to wait for them. >> i've been covering you for a long, long time. i remember during the campaign when you talked about your presidency being a moment when the rise of the oceans would slow and the nation and the world would heel. now you're talking about pen and phone and executive orders. do you think you were naive back then or have you recalibrated your expectations and ambitions? >> part of it is we got a lot of that stuff done. we got in this country a health care reform that already signed

up millions of people. and make sure that anybody's who's watching, anybody who has insurance will not be developed. they can et git on healthcare dove. we have made e more mouse strides on the education front. millions of more young people get student loans. so part of what's happened is, that checklist, we have passed a lot of that. and so in no way are my expectations diminished, but what is obviously true is we've got divided government right now. the house republicans in particular have had difficulty rallying around any agenda, much less mine. and in that kind of environment, what i don't want is the american people to think that the only way for us to make big change is through legislation. we've all got to work together to continue to provide opportunity for the next generation. >> let's talk about house republicans and senate

republicans because there has been a large contingency of republicans critical of your new approach. senator ted cruz of texas who might run for president calls this the imperial presidency. they want to reign in what you're trying to do. >> i don't think that's very serious. the truth of the matter is every president engages in executive actions. we've been very disciplined and sparing in terms of the executive actions that we've taken. we make sure that we're doing it within the authority that we have under statute, but i am not going to make an apology for saying that if i can help middle class families and folks who are working hard to try to get into the middle class do a little bit better, then i'm going to do it. i think it's a tough argument for the other side to make that not only are they willing to not do anything, but they also want

me not to do anything. in which case, i think the american people, whose right now estimation of congress is already pretty low, might have an even lower opinion. >> the stop act is not something you take seriously? >> i'm not particularly worried about it. >> let's talk about areas you might be able to make progress. i know a path way to citizenship through imfwrags reform is very important to you. it's possible you might be able to get an immigration reform bill on your desk for legal status but not citizenship. >> i'm not going to repruj what gets to my desk. i think the principle that we don't want two classes of people in america is a principle that a lot of people agree with, not just me and not just democrats. but i am encouraged by what speaker boehner has said.

obviously i was encouraged by the bipartisan bill that passed out of the senate. i genuinely believe that speaker boehner really do want to get a serious immigration reform bill done. if the speaker proposes something that says right away folks aren't being deported, families aren't being separated, we're able to attract stop young students to provide the skills or start businesses here, then there's a regular process of citizenship i'm not sure how wide the divide ends up being. >> i just wonder if you see this at all in terms of especially the path way to citizenship in the way that you seemed to when you were passing health care reform and i was covering it, the public option. in other words, it would be great if you could do it, it's

not going to happen and there might be expectations that you have to do. i don't think house republicans can pass anything that has a path way to citizenship. >> there is a desire to get it done. and that particularly in this congress is a huge piece of business. because they haven't got an lot done over the last couple years out of the house republican cauc caucus. the fact that they're for something i think is progress. i do know that for a lot of families, the fear of deportation is one of the biggest concerns that they've got. and that's why we took executive actions given by discretion to make sure we're not deporting kids who dpru up here and are americans for all practical purposes. but we need to get that codified. is there more we can do in this legislation that gets more support but solves these broader

problems including strengthening borders. >> and of course, more of the interview will air in a little bit. kate, you know one of the things i thought was so important and interesting was i asked him point-blank, if immigration reform doesn't have a path to citizenship for the millions of undocumented workers will you veto it. he wouldn't play. >> and it shows the struggle. it's a difficult answer because it could box him in. if he gives you a firm answer stsh. >> i agree with you, but i do think there are going to be voe indicates for immigration reform that are going to be disappointed with that answer. the president is basically saying it's acceptable. and as i said in the question to him, there was a time during health care when he made it very clear that he would like a public option government run

health care, but he understood it couldn't get through congress, so he threw it under the bus. he -- he seems to be signaling something similar here. he's not standing up for it. >> that's smart politics though. is the president entering a second term. >> on the politics i agree. on the principle, i think there will be people on the left disappointed. >> that's the trick in general. you have such convergent ideologies there. jake's making a strong point. his base is not going to like the answer. it's also good insight into why the interview is so valuable. usually he's on message. that was very good for you to get him into a dialogue here, jake, where you're unpacking why he thinks what he thinks about things. it's important. >> it's interesting also because right now the house republicans are in a retreat and they are discussing this.

just based on reportering, i know, i don't think there's any way house republicans will be able to pass immigration reform with a clear, special, distinct path way to citizenship. i know speaker boehner has said he will not bring up a bill unless it will get a majority of republicans. >> you know na. >> yeah. >> lots of year of action. he's going to have to get things done. he's going to have to take what he gets to some extent. >> more of jake's interview with the president just ahead. a lot of other topics that jake hits on. the president's thoughts on another global person and also they talk about marijuana. and you can watch the full interview today on the lead with jake tapper at 4:00 eastern. also news this morning about the italian trial saga six years in the making.

amanda knox vowing to fight wrongful prosecution. we are live in plor recognize with more. >> reporter: hi, well the victim meredith kercher's brother and sister speaking out this morning saying nothing will bring back meredith. their lawyer has long argued for this conviction. meanwhile, outrage among amanda knocks's supporters. they're saying she and sollecito have been railroaded by the italians. guilty once again. the amanda knox murder trial far from over this morning after knox was last night slapped with her second conviction of the murder of british student meredith kercher. this is a third time an italian

court has heard the case. the judge overturned the original conviction due to errors in the investigation. she returned to the united states and made no appearance in this trial. last night, a woman believed to be amanda knox was whisked away by family members. knox released a statement saying i am frightened and saddened by this unjust verdict. i expected better from the italian justice system. now the court has sentenced knox to 28 1/2 year in prison. knox's ex-boyfriend, sollecito was also convicted. he was on hand to hear the verdict. and the kercher family keeping the focus on the victim at the center of the case. >> when it is finally upheld or not, nothing's of course going to bring meredith back. nothing will ever take away the

horror of what happened to her. the best we can hope for is, of course, finally bringing this whole case to a conclusion, you know, and a conviction and everybody can then move on with their lives. >> reporter: next up, a fresh round of appeals and many unanswered questions. will italy request her extradition from the united states and will the u.s. grant it. >> in italy, you're still actually presumed innocent until that third final stage. the prosecution asked for a questionnaire or provisional arrest warrant today. it was rejected. the court recognized she is lawfully in the united states. >> reporter: but knox says she's fearful of her future. >> it would feel like a train wreck if they would order my arrest and the italian government would approach the american fwovt and say, extradite her. and i don't know what would

happen. >> reporter: there's been an update on raffaele sollecito's where abouts. he has been detained near a northern italian town. he was found in a hotel at 1:00 a.m. in the morning. police were following him on court orders to seize his passport and other travel documents because he had been deemed a flight risk. he's telling police that he was not running away. back to you. >> all right. thank you very much for that update. so finally, a break for the people of atlanta. temperatures inches just high enough for the ice to start melting. but people are still recovering from the mess. any abandoned cars, they were towed away after most people were able to retrieve them during the day yesterday. now finally, an apology from georgia's governor.

good morning, george. >> reporter: kate, good morning. it is pressly 26 degrees in atlanta. it's expected to get into the 50s. that is welcome news as the commute here gets back to normal. and we are hearing an apology from the state's governor and a personal admission that he could have done more. this morning, the icy roads that froze atlanta to a standstill continued to thaw out. this, as georgia's governor tries to alleviate criticism. >> i accept responsibility for the fact that we did not make preparation early enough to avoid these consequences. >> reporter: governor nathan deal came out strong on thursday. >> i'm not going to look for a scapegoat. i am the governor. the buck stops with me. >> reporter: a sharp contrast to his role in the blame game the morning after the storm. >> the national weather svrs had

continuely had their molgding showing the city of atlanta would not be the primary area where the storm would hit. >> reporter: governor deal ordered an internal review for the state's delayed response to tuesday's crisis. take a look at the traffic map showing the green smooth flow turning deep red, the color of gridlock. throughout thursday, people came back to claim their abandoned cars. >> your vehicle was towed. >> reporter: state troopers and the national guard are helping transport people to the more than 2,000 vehicles strewn along roads and highways. >> i give them an a inspite of all the fs this is an a and i thank them. >> reporter: overnight, state troopers scoured the roadways. today, the cleanup is moving forward.

even though some neighborhood streets are still sheets of size, a 14-year-old girl lost part of her leg thursday on one such street after the abandoned car she was standing behind was struck by another car. >> i think it's been a big wake up call. i think it's going to cause all of us to be more aggressive in terms of declaring states of emergency. >> reporter: what a difference a few days makes. you see the commute getting back to normal. all of the cars have been identified and most have been removed from the roads. we also know that the governor has ex-tended that state of emergency until sunday to keep resources on the ground to help folks who need them. back to you. >> getting it right this time. thanks so much. >> preparations weren't in place. but in truth, the information about the weather has been. let's get over to indra petersons. the question is, when does this

go away. there's that part as well. >> you can go back right now and actually see the forecast discussions way back, several days, 48 hours before. but speaking of today, it is still cold out there. temperatures this morning again below freezing. so the concern any ice that is still out there, still frozen this morning. but there's the difference. temperatures already ten degrees warmer today than they were yesterday morning. we're going to continue that trend as we go through the afternoon. not only in the southeast, but above normal. start to see that recovery very quickly. same story even in the northeast. looking at those temperatures climbing. that's good news. it doesn't mean there's no showers in the forecast. and some good ones. 1 to 2 inches of snowfall per hour in denver. near 10 inches at the higher elevations. look at these numbers. 6 to 10 inches of snow in

through chicago. there are two, tomorrow being the stronger one making its way all the way in through michigan. you can see the icing from ohio valley back through the plains. the first weather model does not bring us showers for super bowl sunday. but we have several models. the european model does bring the chance for showers right before the game and right after the game. so needless to say, the forecast is still changing as far as super bowl sunday. >> it seems that it's a no go in terms of changing the date. >> it's important, if it's going to be pouring rain, the coaches will have a different game plan. >> either way, no one wants to be wet. coming up next on "new day," amanda knox convicted again of murder by an italian court sentencing her to 28 1/2 here in prison. the question now, will the u.s. ever agree to extradite her. [ female announcer ] right when you feel a cold sore,

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amanda knox, the big debate is if there's little evidence of guilt how was she convicted not once but twice. prosecutors have a lot more freedom to paint a picture and can go further in arguing the character of a defendant. in amanda's case, was a picture it was. that's why amanda knox asked to con front these allegations back in may. here's her answer. >> that is simply coming out of

the prosecution. no witnesses have ever come out saying anything like that. and the reason why they continue to per pep wait this idea is because they had this idea about me because it would legitimize their accusations against me. i would be the type of person, a deviant who would do this. >> would not have been allowed in the u.s. system and wound up being a huge factor in the italian one. let's bring in steve moore, retired supervisor and special agent for the fbi and joey jackson. let's play this this way. i will present what the prosecution is putting out there. steve you deal with it on an evidentiary basis and then what happens with the u.s. italy relations. >> my pleasure. >> the basic case here, steve is, you admitted it, amanda knox, you wrote it out that you

confessed you did this. we have dna inconsistencies with your blood and the blood of the victim. we have a nice from the scene that seems to fit. we have rudy gaday that says you were involved. your behavior troubling. that is my case. why is it not strong enough in your opinion? >> the knife didn't fit the wounds in the victim. that's out. the knife had no dna from the victim. it's out. they brow beat her for 53 hours over five days to get her to implicate someone else that they needed to have. there was nothing that you can put down that is in any way, shape or form has survived the appeals. it is also false, it's also gone. >> joey jackson, i suggest that this was a sex game fwon wrong.

meredith kercher was a young woman of virtue. it wound up in murder and you confessed and you did cart wheels in the hallways afterwards while consisting your boyfriend and an innocent person doesn't do it. >> the facts are, chris, that in any prosecution you need evidence, you need facts to base any statements that you're making. absolutely. but when you think about also cart wheels. let's talk about the consist to the boyfriend. how are you going to base a legitimate prosecution upon evidence that doesn't exist at the scene but that we're talking about in terms of how she reacted. you could regard the chris as -- consist as consoling her. you know, and being held by the police. and so when you look at the actual evidence in terms of the case itself, it's problematic. very quickly, on the issue of

the dna and the nice knife. you don't have ed that you leave for seven weeks and then you determine we're going to test it then. you don't have a knife that you pick up out of the kitchen and say, let's say that's the crime scene knife. this court however saw things differently. >> you had two judges and six jurors who viewed evidence. we don't know exactly everything they looked at. but can you just as muchly explain away 12 hours of deliberation? >> yeah, i -- really i do believe that the -- the decision was made before the jury was empanelled. that's how the italian judicial system works. that's why they're such -- i don't want to say laughing stock, but they are certainly one of the more suspect journal systems in all of western europe. so the 12 hours was simply to make it look good. >> there's going to be review of

the sprout. forget about that process. it's what will the u.s. do if this conviction is upheld. there is an extradition treaty. >> absolutely. >> speak to the president as to how each country has treated this treaty. >> sure. well in terms of the provision in the treaty, there's an article ten. the united states can interpret that provision with overturning her conviction, thoughing it out and say look, we had independent experts establishing -- they weren't even at the crime scene and this dna was unreliable. therefore, there is no reasonable cause to believe they committed this crime. >> and we do have precedent that italy refused to send someone to us. >> and sure. back in 2009. not that there was an extradition request, there may

not be one here. there were 22 cia agents charged with the kidnapping of a terrorist. and they of course convicted. never spent a day of jail in italy. there is precedent for people convicted in italy not being returned and vice versa. >> the big question of course, whether it ends in her favor, she has a very long process of trying to figure out where her freedoms exist. the kercher family still hasz to wonder when will there be absolute justice in this. appreciate the perspective. obviously this is as much of a debate as it is a case. tweet us what you think. coming up next on "new day," more of jake tapper's ex-claw sieve interview with praum. the commander in chief, what he has to say about the nsa and also what it's like to raise his two taurs in the white house these days. ya na dell la

welcome back to "new day." rets take a look at your top stories right now. peace talks on syria set to end in switzerland today. and allow humanitarian aid to get in. this discussion now moves to germany with secretary of state john kerry. the weather is finally starting to cooperate in atlanta. temperatures have inched up high enough for ice to start melting. the state of mrm in georgia has been extended through sunday.

governor nathan deal is now taking responsibility for the slow response. new this morning. officials at an elementary school in salt lake city apologizing for taking food away from children with negative balances in their lunch accounts. they are acknowledging that the situation could have been handled better. feweruated parents claimed they were never informed about issues with the accounts chblts. and joj zimmer man degrees to take part in a quote, celebrity boxing match. proceeds from the bought will go to charity. zimmer man we're told will not make any money. kate? >> all right. thank sos much. let's get mow to measure of -- more of jake tapper's extensive interview with

president obama. it covers everything from raising two daughters to his thoughts on pope francis. jake is here once again. >> we ran through a lot of issues. this is from the lighter section of the interview. i want to confide in you and our viewers that as a white house correspondent, sometimes there was tension between me and the president. so at the beginning of the interview we did this walk-in talk. to clear the air, i might ask him about his favorite topic. so the first lady just gave an interview. she said that your daughters not so concerned with whether or not you had a bad between. more concerned about, okay, dad, that's great, where's my allowance. >> they have some awareness of what's going on. and we have great conversations although mostly it's more about history than it is about what's

going on right now. it's true. look, they're teenagers. they are fully absorbed with their lives, what's going on at school. >> they're not into your approval ratings. >> they really are not. >> are you bringing them when you go to the vatican? >> you know, they met the previous pope the last time they went to roam. i'm not sure they're going to have a chance to go this time. one was still pretty young at the time. they see the chapel and going through these various chambers. each time she'd see somebody dressed up in the cloth, she'd say, is that the pope, is that the pope, how about that guy over there. no, no, you'll know when it is finally the pope. >> i was thinking about this pope. i was thinking about there's so much excitement. people think he's going to

change everything. do you want to talk to him about the importance of managing expectations at all? >> i have been really impressed so far with the way he's communicated what i think is the essence of the christian faith and that is a true sense of brotherhood and sister hood and regard for those who are less fortunate. and my suspicion is based on what i've seen of him so far, he's a pretty steady guy. i don't think he needs any advice from me about staying humble. >> he's not looking at his approval rating. >> i don't think he is. i think he is very much reflecting on his faith and what he needs to do to make sure that folks not just of the catholic faith but people all around the world are living out a message that he thinks is consistent

with the lessons of jesus christ. that's a meeting i'm looking forward to. >> and of course, we got into many, many more topics in addition to the economy and the imperial presidency. we talked about whether or not. we talked about whether or not he would allow his friends to go to the sochi olympics. it's a very complicated answer. he doesn't just say, yes, go. >> i also think a complicated answer when he has to talk to his daughters about his approval rating. >> they don't care. i come home, i've had a rough day, my kids could not care less. it's kind of nice to know that same thing happens with them. >> even living at the white house. >> i didn't ask him if the first lady feels bad for him. that's not my business it's not my biznatch.

>> find out what he says about the nsa and safety at the sochi olympics. you can watch the full interview today on jake's show at 4:00 eastern. dennis rodman's struggles. our explosive interview on "new day," really just the beginning of the story. we find him in a place that's more dangerous for him than north korea. he's facing his demons in rehab. , is that true? says here that cheerios has whole grain oats that can help remove some cholesterol, and that's heart healthy. ♪ [ dad ] jan? i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is.

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this morning, former nba star dennis rodman is undergoing treatment for his long struggle with alcoholism. he checked himself in after the trip to north career ya which included his out of control interview here on "new day." we're going to speak with dennis rodman live this time. he made the request saying it's part of his healing. what is behind his decades long battle with addiction. and what is hopefully a discussion about his determination to finally recover. first for you now, a look at what brought dennis rodman to this point. five-time nba champ doctor, the worm. notorious with crossing lines, cross dressing, even crossing over into cross-dressing. but this was the crown july in his career of controversy. >> i don't give a rat's ass what

the hell you think. >> it quickly turned into something else. ♪ happy birthday to you >> a birthday present for kim jong-un. >> this is my friend. >> the bizarre access rodman has to the much maligned leader with his bizarre behavior. rodman would later apologize to us, his teammates and to kenneth bae rodman drunkenly accused of wrong doing. >> do you understand what he did? >> you tell me. >> no, no, no. you tell me. you tell me. >> behind all this bluster is a cry for help. rodman admitted he was drunk in the interview and out of

control. he checked into rehab, and it's not the first time. rodman first went in 2008. in 2009, his behavior on the celebrity apprentice was so bad, friends and family staged an intervention. >> think this is going to help? >> later that year, he chose rehab over jail. he was nowhere near bottom, insisting like so many that he could control his problem. >> i've already got this under control. i'm cool. i can do whatever i want to. i've got it straightened the [ bleep ] out. >> arguably access to north korea could not control his own addiction. he finds himself in a hell that is familiar to more and more americans every day. rodman is facing those demons in rehab. we're going to visit him there later in the show.

stay tuned for that. going to take a break, though. next up on "new day," who do you think will win the big game this sunday? i have my opinion. the broncos. here's a hint, they never worry about the points. >> is that about the republicans? mine was earned in korea in 1953.

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the music itself getting you excited. welcome back the big game is just two-days away and even the

animal kingdom is weighing in. michelle turner is joining us from time square with those predictions. >> reporter: you're right. that music just gets you hyped. not the fact that it's 20 degrees out here. it's that music. rerely on the analysts to go to school, get degrees and give us these great predictions. then what do we do? we want to hear what the animals have to say. let's go to south carolina this morning where two elephants are making their predictions. you see them there with the broncos and the seahawks. their picking, of course, the broncos. i think their handlers may have been broncos fans. if you see there, it looked like their handlers were skewing them

towards the broncos. ely the 8th has been picking the super bowl for six years. let me see what eli is picking this morning. he is picking the seahawks. the ring ling brothers elephants are picking the broncos. i'm going with the seahawks. >> he knocked the seahawks off. i think he was picking the broncos because he was taking out the seahawks. >> i will argue with eli. he's connected man. >> you're right. i'm sorry. i will now be silent. >> let's take a break. coming up on "new day," plenty of concerns over security. so does president obama think it's going to be safe. his answer in more of the

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in no way are my expectations diminished or my ambitions diminished, but what is obviously true is we've got

divided government right now. >> jake tapper presses the president. what he now says about his stance on marijuana. the interview you can only see here. double jeopardy. amanda knox convicted again of murder in italy. but will the u.s. government have something to say about that. her lawyer joins us live. quarterback sneak. was giant's qb eli manning selling fake jerseys and helmets. the shocking lawsuit just days ahead of his brother's big super bowl moment. your "new day" starts right now. good morning and welcome back to "new day." it's friday, january 31st. 7:00 in the east. of course, chris cuomo is on his

way to dennis rodman's rehab facility right now for a live exclusive interview. >> and i'm john berman. we will get more of the exclusive interview with the president as well. a lot of news breaking overnight. in atlanta the ice is starting to melt after this week's storm after abandoned cars are finally removed from the roads. and also, now georgia's governor is taking responsibility. good morning, george. >> reporter: just a few daysing a, it was a game of finger pointing. governor nathan deal apologizing to residents here in the state of georgia for not acting soon enough. the home of the world's biggest airport. a lot happens here. the governor promises to make sure the city functions in the future. also when it comes to the

roadways, the the 2,000 plus cars, they have been removed. and they have ex-tended the state of emergency through sunday. attorneys for amanda knox plan to appeal after an italian court reinstated her murder conviction. live in italy this morning. what's the latest? >> reporter: well the victim of mare death kercher speaking out this morning, adding that they would support amanda knox's extradition from the united states if it came to that. their attorney has long argued for this condition. meanwhile, raffaele sollecito

has been detained. he was followed by police on court orders to seize his travel documents. he insists that he was not on the run. >> thank you so much. more on that coming up. and one week until the winter games and team usa is arriving in sochi ready to win. we are live in sochi for us this morning. good morning ivan. >> good morning. russian authorities say they arrested two brothers that they suspect of being accomplices in last month's twin suicide bombings of the russian city of volgograd. meanwhile, a week after the olympics we're watching the russian so-called ring of steel tighten up. really fort fied places with gates, walls, fences, walls of metal detectors and tens of thousands of police and

soldiers. u.s. counter terrorism officials say they think these olympic venues will be very safe. the bigger concern they say are softer targets like the city of sochi, the port of sochi which is half an hour's drive from the olympic venue. you can't wall off an entire city. an official says there is substantial potential for a terrorist attack. >> thank you very much. developing news this morning. north korea says it does not plan to release american kenneth bae any time soon. in fact, they are saying that they will not be pardoned or released before he completes his 15-year sentence of hard labor. he was leading a christian tour group when he was arrested for anty government acts. yahoo says their user names and passwords were stolen.

yahoo mail has more than 80 million u.s. customers alone. they're working with law enforcement to investigate the attack. yahoo says the hackers got the information from a third party data base. >> cnn's exclusive interview with president obama. this is the first interview since the state of the union address. and he sat down with our very own jake tapper. key issues facing americans including whether the nsa has gone too far and should the federal government be missing people now for smoking pot. we're lucky to have jake tapper here this morning. >> the president gave an interview a few weeksing a in which he made those comments that surprised a lot of people about marijuana. this really contradicts official obama administration policy. if you go to the white house

website -- >> directly contradicts. >> yeah. marijuana is a schedule 1 narcotic alongside heroin and ecstasy. so the more casual way he talked about it surprised people. that's where i picked up this part of the interview. >> another big issue has to do with the legalization of marijuana. you said that you thought smoking pot was a bad habit but you didn't think it was any worse for a person than drinking. now that contradicts the official obama administration policy both on the website of the office of national drug policy and also that it is considered a schedule 1 product. do you think you were maybe talking just a little too casually about it in the new york error are you considering not making marijuana a schedule one narcotic? >> first of all, what is and isn't a schedule 1 narcotic is a

job for congress. >> i think it's the dea. >> it's not something by ourselves that we start changing. there are laws under those determination. >> will you support -- >> but the broader point, i understand by my belief, based i think on the scientific evidence, that marijuana for casual users, individual users is subject to abuse just like alcohol is and should be treated as a public health problem and challenge. but as i said in the interview, my concern is when you end up having very heavy criminal penalties for individual users that have been applied unevenly and in some cases, with a racial disparity. i think that is a problem. over the long term, what i believe is if we can deal with some of the criminal penalty issues, then we can really

tackle what is a problem not just for marijuana but also alcohol, also cigarettes, also harder drugs and that is try to make sure that our kids don't get -- don't get into these habits in the first place. and, you know, the encars ration model that we've taken, particularly around marijuana, does not seem to have produced the kind of results that we've set. but i do offer a cautionary note and i said this in the interview, those who think legalization is a panacea, they have to ask themselves some tough questions too. if we start having a situation where big corporations with a lot of resources are suddenly going out there peddling marijuana, then the levels of abuse that may take place are going to be higher. >> when your director of national intelligence, clapper, testified before congress and said before the snowden leaks

that there was no masseur va lance going on, a lot of democrats in the senate think that he was not honest. he said later that it was the least untruthful answer he could give. i know that you have faith in clapper. i know that you believe that these programs protect the american people. but i can't believe that you weren't disappointed by his answer because least untruthful is not a phrase i remember hearing on the campaign trail. >> the -- i think that jim clapper himself would acknowledge and has acknowledged that he should have been more careful about how he responded. his -- his concern was that he had a class five program that he couldn't talk about and he was in open hearing in which he was asked, he was prompted to disclose a program and so he felt that he was caught between

a rock and a hard place. >> do you understand what he did. >> subsequently i think he acknowledged he could have handle it better. i think the broader point is that everybody that i've dealt with in our intelligence community is really working hard to try to do a very tough job. protect us when there are constant threat streams coming at us, but doing so in a way that's consistent with the law, consistent with our constitution and consistent with our privacy rights. i am actually confident that we can continue to have the best intel jeps service in the world, but win back the confidence of both the american people and folks overseas. it's going to take time and work. partly because the technology has just moved so quickly that

the discussions that -- that need to be had didn't happen fast enough, didn't happen on the front end. you know, i think that we have the opportunity now to move forward in a way that's going to make a difference. >> a lot of members of congress and not just the fringe ones, the ones that are serious lawmakers have said to cnn that they would not let their family members go to sochi, that they are not confident it will be safe. you see all the intelligence. i know you're not going and michelle is not going. but if close friends of yours or close friends of the girls said, hey, we're thinking about going, what would you tell them? >> i'd tell them that i believe sochi is safe and that there are always some risks in these large international gatherings. i'm aulgz going to feel even

better if it's inside the united states. but the russian authorities understand the stakes here. they understand there are potential threats that are out there. and we are coordinating with them. we've looked at their plans. i think we have a good sense of the security of that their putting in place to protect the athletes themselves but also visitors there. so what i would say is, is that if you want to go to the olympic, you should go to the olympic. we're not discouraging in any way americans from participating in what is always an amazing and wonderful event. in these large settings like this, there are always some risks involved. and i don't want to completely discount those. as we've seen here in the united states, the boston marathon. there were some risks if you have cells of folks who are trying to do some damage.

>> thank you for your time. >> appreciate it. >> believe it or not, there is still some of this interview that has not aired. you can watch the full interview today on "the lead" at 4:00 p.m. eastern. we talked about cory remsberg. an amazing moment for the state of the union. very moving. we talked about afghanistan and then i did make him choose between biden versus hillary or broncos versus seahawks. >> you twisted his arm? i'm wondering which one did he decide. we'll see. >> it's so interesting listening to the president talk about the nsa right now and james clapper. because on the issue of privacy and intelligence, there's no question that his position has changed from when he was candidate obama. but listening to him articulate it, it doesn't seem there's a lot of clarity if that.

he doesn't seem to be -- >> where the line is. >> i ask him about clapper doing what a lot of people would just straight out say, lying to congress. he said something that wasn't true. and clapper himself said that when he was asked about these massive surveillance programs on the american people before edward snowden leaked their existence to the world, he said he gave the least untruthful answer he could. i said to the president, i don't recall least untruthful from the pam contain -- campaign trail he defended clapper. >> he has to though. >> that was the first time i've heard somebody in the administration say he was being asked about classified programs in an open congressional hearing, basically excusing it. >> if it was a senator, he would have had a very different opinion. why do you think he struggles so much? >> it's the difference from

looking at these programs from the outside than in. >> i think that's right. i talked to a lot of people who worked for many presidential candidates about this. the moment you become the nominee, the moment you get the briefings about the terrorist threats and other threats in the united states and then the moment you become president and all of a sudden responsible for 320 million americans, it does change your perspective. perhaps it allows people to rethink their positions on principles they previously held dear when it comes to civil liberties and civil rights. that's the explanation i have. i'm not excusing it. >> the american people do want to know that line because the trust has been broken since all of these leaks came at. >> he defended clapper. he defended him. >> and a lot more to come. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, kate, thanks john.

>>. let's get indra petersons for a look at the forecast. what does the weekend look like for the all important game? >> there are some storms in the northwest. take a look at chicago by tomorrow could see 6 to 10 inches of snow. let's talk about it. we have this little game called the super bowl. today, not bad. warmer than yesterday. by late saturday, we start to see rain showers. we could see scattered showers in through sunday morning. but another system sunday night through monday. huge temperature drob there. could mean snow for monday. if you're watching the game, you're going to the game, 40 degrees at kickoff time. definitely windy conditions will be out there. let me show you what we look at. notice here we are.

look at the systems making the way through. it's so close here. that is one model. a second system now sunday in through monday really shows the potential for another bulls eye to be right off the coast for monday morning. that's the best we can do right now. light scattered showers before and after the game, guys. >> thank you so much. let's take a break. more legal turmoil for amanda knox after another guilty verdict in italy. what are the chances she will be extradited? >>. and while peyton manning prepares to fend off the seahawks. eli is offending off other accusations. we'll hear what the quarterback has to say. i need proof of insurance. that's my geico digital insurance id card - gots all my pertinents on it and such. works for me. turn to the camera.

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welcome back to "new day" everyone. two manning brothers, two very different super bowl weekend. peyton starting for the broncos this sunday. eli facing a new lawsuit alleging fraud. now that claims that manning and the giants sold fake memorabilia that they passed off as game-used items. but the quarterback is firing back. we're on super bowl would in time square with the latest on this. andy? >> reporter: if you're holden onto any sports memorabilia that's labeled game used this is something you don't want to hear. the giants from the dry cleaner all the way to eli manning was

accused of passing off items as became-used and he's alleging they've been doing this for years. ely manning is tachycardia ling a legal battle. several of his jerseys and helmets were doctored. he filed a lawsuit claiming the giants quarterback participated in the use so he could hold onto some of his most prized items. one of them is his 2008 super bowl helmet. manning denied any wrong doing in a statement saying, the giants told me this suit is completely without merit and i have no reason to believe otherwise. the giants are going to fight it and so will i. >> my advice would be to have the collectors do their own research. >> reporter: a life long giants

fan claims he was buying and reselling memorabilia from the team for decades. in 2011 he was indicted for memorabilia fraud. in a statement, his attorney said, he is simply trying to hold those individuals accountable for their actions and the harm it has caused to him. included in the lawsuit, is an e-mail exchange in which they appear to acknowledge creating fake game worn gear. >> if that e-mail is le jit, then you could argue that that's a smoking gun. you have someone with knowledge that there's conspiracy to the fraud and to pawn off equipment that is really not lee jit. >> reporter: these aren't the type of questions ely's brother peyton wanted to answer. >> there's a question that he was involved in fake memorabilia, forgeries.

do you have a comment or reaction to that? >> no. >> reporter: so the lawsuit is 77 pages law. it names eli, the giants, the team president. this is not something they wanted during this week's festivities. >> they want the attention to go quickly back into the game. >> peyton didn't look happy at all to get that question. >> no. >> thanks. coming up next, amanda knox convicted once again. sentenced to 28 1/2 years. we're going to speak with her attorney here in the u.s. and just an unbelievable failure to act with deadly consequences. why did firefighters refuse to help a man in distress just steps away from their fire house. that's ahead.

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welcome back to "new day." amanda knox's lawyers are vowing to appeal her stunning murder conviction this morning. she was found guilty once again in the murder of her roommate and sentenced to 28 1/2 years in prison in an italian prison. of course there are questions if she could be forced to return to italy. let's talk about what's next and how the knox family is reacting. her lawyer here in the u.s., tedd simon. i can only imagine how much of a whirlwind it has been in the last 24 hours and few weeks.

so thank you for taking the time. >> you're welcome and good morning to you. >> i know you had been in communication with amanda throughout the day yesterday. have you had a chance to speak with her and get a reaction since the verdict? >> true. we were in touch constantly all day yesterday and of course also with her family in waiting in anticipation of this next verdict. i can tell you that upon receiving the news, it was terrible news. she understands more than anyone that a wrongful conviction is unjust not just for the accused, but for the victim, their family as well as society. so she feels this very personally. while she accepted that very difficult news, she has rebounded. she has shown great resill yans and forget attitude. we would charkz that as a completely unjust conviction. i know you understand she was

previously found innocence. >> right. >> by a jury. not that she was found not guilty. she was found actually innocent. a verdict that is possible in italy. yet, there was no evidence then and there's no evidence now. so that's why it becomes so incomprehensible how could there be a different verdict where there's no new or differing evidence. it is more favorable today than it was before. >> real quick kind of on -- what this does to her. because i was talking with another person who's been in close contact with her, ryan ferguson. he came on the show. he and amanda had been in communication. he says this is so tough for her really because her life is in limbo, she can't move on and live her life. you talk about her resill yans. how does she stay sane. how does she remain resill i

can't when this happens? >> i guess you also have to understand the type of person she is. she's is kind hearted person. she thinks about other people before herself. that becomes very apparent when you get to know her. one thing that is very clear, yesterday, demonstrated on incredible out pouring and ground swell of support from those people that know her and those that do not. so to that extent, there's a great deal of support. and we know some things really don't change. this was a terrible, fwru some, horrific murder. with this type of murder, there would have been evidence of amanda knox in the room. and we know that was not the case. there was no hair, fiber. fingerprint, sweat, saliva, dna of amanda knox in the room. that in and of itself tells you

it's an unassailable truth that she was simply not in the room. no country has a mow moply unjustice and wrongful convictions happener where. so this is not a question of nationality or -- or location as much as it is one of a really horrific miss karnl of justice. and she and her family and supporters are hoping this gets reversed. and we're a long way off. >> i want to get into what's next. how do you have any confidence that you can successfully fight to clear her name when you have seen how this legal process has continued? >> well, you know, i -- i use the term hope because i believe she feels and the family feels at someplace there will be a

recognition of the truth. and a recognition that there is absolutely no evidence today, there was no evidence before, and there never will be any evidence of her guilt. >> how far out do you think that is? these next steps are months in the coming. >> oh, more than that. we're probably, you know, i would guess probably a year away before the next, you know, proceeding. so you know, again, you know, there's fortitude, there's resilien resilience there's a recognition that she's not guilty. that is a part that remains in the hopeful category. one does not know what the future brings. >> two quick questions. just want to get your take on the reports we have this morning of her former boyfriend, raffaele sollecito. he says he wasn't fleeing.

do you know anything about what he was trying to do? >> no i can't speak to that. the first i heard about that was broadcast on cnn. you're in front of us on that. so i really don't know anything about it. but i can tell you something about amanda. amanda has been in complete compliance with all court orders. she was not required to attend these new proceedings. in fact, yesterday, the court recognized she was lawfully in the united states and did not issue any kind of cautionary arrest. so there's a recognition that she is here properly she has complied lawfully and will continue to do so and will continue to fight this case with every bone in her body. her family is fully behind her with a great deal of support and the constant recognition that there's simply a profound loss of evidence. and it's basically incomprehensible how could there

be today or yesterday any different verdict than the one that issued before from another appellate court jury that found her -- >> you continue to see this process continue. understandably so. it is early to be talking about any question of extradition. as you said, we have an appeal you need to focus on first. today, if it doesn't go her way are you still 100% confident that she would not be extradited? >> you know, i can understand why that is the question of the day. but it's really not a question that is an issue today or tomorrow or for a long time to come. we have to await the motivation that will be generated by the court. we have to see the basis upon which they have rendered their finding. from that, there will be an appeal. a minimum of one appeal. so, you know, again, i understand why you might be posing the question today, but

it's really not right for consideration. and i wouldn't, you know, comment on that at this time. >> more than one bridge to cross before that is something that you'll have to face. it's always great to see you. thank you for taking the time this morning. it's going to be a busy few days for you. >> yes. thank you very much. >> of course. all right. back over to john for more headlines. making news this hour, cnn's exclusive interview with president obama. the president telling jake tapper that he has enlisted 300 companies to consider hiring the long term unemployed. the president also declaring he believes the sochi olympics are secure adding any americans who want to go to the games should go. the air force cheating scandal is growing this morning. 92 nuclear miss l officers are now implicated. 40 officers are suspected of actually sheet cheel -- cheating. while the other 32 allegedly

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simply needs to see. twerking at harvard. now you might ask why. i say, why not. she was in came bridge. she was named the woman of the year. during their roast they asked her to twerk. she later admitted she tried at home. she called those attempts at home unsuccessful. >> very difficult to do. i don't speak from personal experience. >> i was once the president of said the thee yat calls. >> i have now said that more than you. >> michelle fiver whipped me. >> i've been twice today stunned into silence on the set. we're going to talk about this later. andy scholes, let's get to the bleacher report. andy scholes is at super bowl would. what more do we need to know? >> reporter: it's too cold to

twerk out here guys. this matchup shaping up to be a go. and the seahawks have the number one defense. when those two units on the field, the matchup everyone's going to be watching is peyton manning versus richard sherman. sherman said that peyton's passes while they're on time and accurate, they look like ducks flying through the air. having a little fun with it. >> i believe it to be true as well. i mean it's a real reach what he's saying there. i do throw ducks. i've thrown a lot of guards and touchdowns ducks and so i am -- i'm actually quite proud of it. >> reporter: sory chemical nichols is going to have a special edition of unguarded right here on super bowl would tonight. she's going to sit down with john elway who talks about

getting the broncos back to the super bowl. >> you know, as a player, this is the biggest game of your career. and you know, especially as a quarterback. there's a lot of things that ride on this game because of the fact that the attention that the game gets. you're a lot more in the background which is more enjoyable. >> reporter: that's it for us out here at super bowl would. i'm going to go get in the bus and warm up again. you can watch that whole interview right here on cnn 10:30 tonight. it's very nice out here. a little chilly. >> you're in the middle of the most exciting place to be all week. no complaining. and i do take exception. you know i have to defend peyton. his ducks are better than most quarterbacks perfect passes. just saying. >> lots of record setting ducks thrown this year. >> you know how i feel about that. great to see you and your ear

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welcome back to "new day." two washington d.c. firefighters now on administrative leave following reports they ignored desperate pleas to help a man having a heart attack. officials are trying to find a 77-year-old man died when help was just right across the street. what's going on here? >> reporter: john, the incidet happened here at this fire station on saturday where there's now on investigation underway to term exactly what happened, whether red tape got in the way or bad judgment or just plain negligence. when 77-year-old cecil mills collapsed outside this shopping center, his daughter saw one silver lining. they were just across the street from a fire station. but shockingly firefighters

refused several desperate requests from the dying man's daughter and witnesses. >> i even ran to the curb and said are you going to help me or are you going to let my dad die. >> reporter: they told them they had to call 911 before anyone could respond. >> protocol is heartless. it's heartless and that's how i felt. >> reporter: someone did call 911 later. but to make matters worse, that ambulance went to the wrong location 20 minutes away. cecil mills died that day leaving his daughter heart broken. they are now investigating, questioning 15 people including three firefighters involved directly. was anybody who is here today there on saturday? the deputy mayor who oversees the department says nothing should have prevented helping

mills. >> firefighters routinely go into danger. they don't waitment they responsibility. this goes against what fire fighting is all about. >> reporter: it's obviously is very sad story. but it's still unknown what, if any, role, the delay in response played in cecil mills death. >> i think they put it pretty well. the callous disregard for a man's life. let's take another break. coming up next. a lot of people watching the super bowl, right? of course. but a lot of people watching the super bowl tuning in just for the commercials. but at $4 million for a 30-second spot, you wonder if companies are getting much of a return on their investment. so why are they spending all that cash? ple a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a little further.

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once again. the super bowl is two days away. let's be serious. a lot of people are more excited about atds than the actual game. not me. this year a 30 second spot runs more than $4 million. makes you wonder. is it worth it? let's go nischelle turner live on super bowl boulevard in typewriter. is it worth it? >> reporter: that's the question we're trying to find out. it's been said 36% of the 100 plus million people watching sunday's game will be watching more for the commercials than the game itself. that's the percentages we're getting. the question is why and at the end of the day does it matter? do people buy what they are

selling? well we decided to find out. [ screaming ] do you remember laughing with this? feeling really uncomfortable during this or rooting for this adorable little kid? you know you liked watching them but do you even remember what those commercials were for? believe it or not despite all the buzz a recent study shows 80% of those ads don't make people buy the stuff they are selling. so why are companies spending big bucks on ads year after year? >> they do it because if it is successful the game is tremendous. >> reporter: some experts say the super bowl ad craze started 30 years ago when steve jobs took a chance by airing a controversial ad for apple's debut of the macintosh computer, drawing parallels between ibm computers and the conformist

society in go, orwell's society "1984." >> apple saw a huge spike in macintosh sales. that was the benchmark and is still the benchmark today that people use to decide whether or not a super bowl ad is effective. >> reporter: that ad costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce. since then the cost from duce and air commercials has skyrocketed. in the past decade "forbes" magazine said money spent on advertising in the super bowl has doubled from $150 million to more than $300 million because it's one of the few tv events of the year as evidently dvr proof. >> we don't want to show up the next day and say we want to watch the super bowl on tape tonight, we want to watch it live. that's why the super bowl with over 100 million people watching it live commands the price for advertising it does. >> reporter: since companies are spending that money on a few

hours of tv broadcasting some now release teasers weeks ahead of the big game to garner buzz online. david beckham may score points. >> you go there and vote at the end of this commercial. everybody loves david beckham. >> reporter: others may fall short of the goal mine. >> two professional teams will be playing a game in honor of my first wonderful pistachio's commercial. >> that's a flop. wonderful pistachios will not see a bounce because of that commercial. >> reporter: will we talk about that or will that commercial fall flat? a lot of questions we'll be asking. those 30 second super bowl ads we know they are expensive. did you know they are more expensive than any other sporting broadcast. more expensive than the world series, game seven of the nba finals, olympics, more expensive. i was giving you some stats this morning.

i have stats folks with me. jonathan becker and alexisgl imi ck. alexis, i want to talk with you. you partner up with the super bowl for fuel up to play 60. >> it's an investment by 50,000 of america's dairy farmers in partnership with the national football league to empower students in the school building to eat healthy and get "60 minutes" of physical activity daily. the most amazing thing about it is we're in 73,000 schools. we're reaching 38 million kids a day and fun is fundamental. everything we're doing is about empowering the kids to create their own solution. >> reporter: it's a good thing, kids aren't moving.

childhood obesity is an important issue, it's a problem. jonathan you guys at s.a.p. recognize this problem. >> we love this initiative, encouraging the future entrepreneurs. we're about the innovative spirit. we want to inspire people through technology. we made a commitment to ask how can kids growing up with technology know it's pervasive in their lives. >> reporter: technology is so important to boston you and also important to fund this initiative. you guys are partnering up to give some reason? >> yes. they are kindly giving us $3 million to help foster social entrepreneurism in students. they are empowering kids. and innovator and technology company like s.a.p. will take us

to place we thought never possible. our young venture capital kids are excited, these mini venture capitalists. >> reporter: the ideas are great but you need known fund it. isn't that right? >> absolutely right. >> reporter: thank you so much. next up on "new day" a cnn exclusive you will not want to miss, folks. in just moments, chris cuomo sits down with dennis rodman for a live one on one interview. straight from the superstar's rehab facility. dennis rodman unscripted, unedited. we have no idea where this one is going, folks. just ahead.

>> about the situation in north korea and basically anything that's on his mind. we're going to get all of that in just a second but there's other news this morning as well. let's bring it back to new york so you can get the headlines. >> there's a lot to get to here in new york. breaking this morning, amanda knox speaks out about her second conviction in italy. she said she will never go back to the country willingly. we also have that cnn exclusive the president going one on one with jake tapper. and his take on the new pope.

let's get back over to john berman for other top stories. >> u.s. attorney general eric holder says prosecutors plan to seek the death penalty against dzhokhar tsarnaev. tsarnaev has pleaded not guilty. no trial date has been set. happening today syrian peace talks wrap up in geneva with little or no progress made on most issues. john kerry and other world leaders head to germany where the discussions will continue at the munich security conference. the united states is now also accusing the syrian government of stalling on its commitment to remove chemical weapons from that country. this is not the news the family of dennis bae wanted to hear. the ambassador to britain said in an interview they don't plan to release the missionary until he serves out his sentence of 15 years of hard labor.

the diplomat say he's being treated well and denies he's being held in a labor camp. bae was leading a tour group in north korea when he was arrested and jailed for what they call anti-government acts. a nasty summit bug hits a second cruise ship in the span of a week. the cdc expected to board the "caribbean princess" cruise ship today because the norovirus made people sick on that ship. on wednesday a royal caribbean cruise got cut short there after nearly 700 crew and passengers got sick also from suspected norovirus. new this morning officials at an elementary school in salt lake city apologizing for taking food away from children with negative balances in their lunch accounts. they are acknowledging they could have handled the situation better. many of the kids cried when their lunch trace were just taken away from them, infurriating parents who claimed

they were never informed of issues with these accounts. >> let's go to our exclusive interview with president obama. he sat down with jake tapper to talk about a lot of topics including marijuana and whether it should be decriminalizing. and the president weighing in on the upcoming winter games. and with or without congress president plan to throw a lifeline to the long term unemployed saying he has several major corporations on board. >> folks are looking at that gap in their resume and weeding them out before these be folks get a chance for an interview. so what we've done is to gather together 300 companies just to start with, including some of the top 50 companies in the country, companies like walmart and apple and ford and others to say let's establish best practices. do not screen people out of the hiring process just because they have been out of work for a long

time. >> a lot of members of congress and not just like the fringe ones, the ones who are serious lawmakers have said to cnn that they would not let their family members go to sochi. that they are not confident that it will be safe. >> what i would say is if you want to go to the olympics, you should go to the olympics, and we're not discouraging in anyway americans participating in what is always an amazing wonderful event. >> are you considering not making marijuana a schedule one narcotic >> marijuana for casual users, individual users is subject to abuse just like alcohol is. and should be treated as a public health problem and challenge. but as i said in the interview my concern is when you end up having very heavy criminal penalties for individual users that have been applied unevenly

and in some cases with racial disparity. >> you can watch the full interview today on the lead at 4:00 p.m. eastern. also much of this interview will be the topic of discussion on john king's show inside politic, the show is returning to cnn this sunday 8:30 a.m. eastern. now we will get to chris's live interview with dennis rodman in just one moment. first some breaking news this morning. amanda knox speaking out after the latest chapter in her legal saga. an emotional knox was defiant saying she will never go back to italy willingly and expected better from the courts. knox was convicted of murder again despite already being acquit on the very same charge. erin mclaughlin is back with us from florence of what knox had to say and getting her reaction. good morning, erin. >> reporter: good morning. it was an emotional intervul

with gma robin roberts. amanda's voice seemed shaky at other times she was strong. take a listen. >> my first reaction was no, this is wrong, and i'm going to do everything i can to, to prove that it is. and i felt very determined and my family felt very determined. but it was only on my way here that i really got my first cry. i talked to don sallo, the priest in the prison, we've stayed in contact and he reminded me that people still believe in me and that, like this is an experience that i have to testify to. that -- that really horrible things can happen and you have to stand up for yourself and you

have to believe that it's going to be okay. i will never go willingly back to the place where -- i'm going to fight this until the very end, and it's not right. and it's not fair. and i'm going to do everything i can. granted, i need a lot of help. i can't do this on my own and i can't help people understand this on my own. >> meanwhile the victim, meredith kercher's brother and sister speaking out this morning as well saying that nothing will bring meredith back, adding that they would support amanda knox's extradition from the united states if it came to that. as for raffaele sollecito, we're hearing from italian police that he has been detained in northern italy. he was found in a hotel at 1:00

a.m. in the morning near the border of austria and slovenia. he was found with his girlfriend. police were looking for him after a court order to seize his travel documents. we frunds his lawyer that he's currently still at the police station sorting all of this out insisting that he was not trying to run. kate? >> we'll talk about the next legal steps for amanda knox later on in the show. first let's get back to our other big story this morning and to chris. >> all right, kate, thank you very much. i'm here now with dennis rodman. we're in a rehabilitation facility. you wanted to have this interview. you had some things you wanted to get off your chest. let's start with the obvious. why are you here? why are you here, dennis? >> why am i here? i think it goes back a while, a way back. i think the fact all the things i've been going through the last

year and a half, certain situations and i figured that this is a great time for me to come here to reflect and try to put myself at ease, at peace about things that's been going on in the last year and a half. and i thought this was an appropriate time to be here to try to gather my thoughts, gather my views about life and which direction i wanted to go. >> how do you work on controlling alcohol? >> well, i wish people wouldn't say it like that. i've always been a party animal. and i've always said to the media and to the world that, you know what? i don't hurt anyone. i never carry a gun. i never had a gun. i don't have a knife. i don't have anything that would damage anyone's, their future about what they do in life. that's not my job. my job is to do one thing and that is to be a professional entertainer and human being on

this planet to entertain people and keep them happy and keep them strong and keep people's spirits uplifting. i think i've done a great job at that. but i think for me, the reason i drink is because i'm bored. >> you drink because you're bored. >> absolutely. i've been saying that for years. ever since 1993. i need to be active. i need to be productive and keep my mind on life in general. >> but drinking does all the opposite things doesn't it, dennis? >> you know, you want to ask all the hard questions. i'm the only guy in the world to answer these questions. i come straight at you. i speak from my heart and i speak from my sleeves. you ask me anything in the world. >> you think i'm asking you hard questions or obvious one. we're in a rehab center. first step we admit we're powerless over alcohol. >> if you give a person that you give an interview to, an

opportunity to speak out. i've been in rehab, but for me rehab -- i don't have to drink. i came to the realization 15 years ago, i don't really have to drink, you know. i don't need to go in a bar or a restaurant and go for alcohol. that's not my job. i did it for recreational purposes. like most people in the world when they go to the bar or a restaurant 90% have a drink. could it be a glass of wine. it could be anything that's very simple. and for me it's more like i love to have a good time. i love to be around people to have a good time. and for me, yes, i admitted so many times hey i drink and people know that. and am ian alcoholic? absolutely. i can't deny that. >> did you dome rehab to try to control the addiction and try to

take it out of your life or something else? >> i said it to dr. drew. i'm a human first. the one thing that people for human beings in america has always done or people in america they always have gave people first, second, third chances. and to redeem themselves and to be a part of society with or without alcohol, with or without drugs people always have that heart of hearts knowing people are trying to get help. >> let's talk redemption. last interview we had were you drunk in that interview? >> oh, my god, really? >> were you? that's what i've been told. >> you know what? i think the fact that when i was in north korea, after the game, stuff like that, yes, we had -- absolutely we had a lot of drinks. we partied after the game. we went back to the hotel. we had some wine and sake. >> during the interview were you of right mind? >> it wasn't about me being in

the right mind. i want people to understand this. it wasn't about that. i think the fact when a certain person asks you a question when they are not supposed to ask you that question at that particular time knowing the fact that i wasn't in the state to really properly answer that question, i think it was unfair. but, you know -- >> your answer was the way it was because you thought me asking it was unfair. >> i think the fact that you wanted a story you could have at least asked me first. i think that was the proper thing to do and at the moment, you know, i didn't think too much about it and i told you before this interview i said i don't hate you. you're doing your job. i'll treat you like anybody else. i'll shake your hand, hug you, go out and have a cigar. >> i asked the question because it's so obvious, they are so important to how people view you and what's going on with this situation. that i cannot ask them. >> absolutely.

>> when you call somebody a friend who a lot of people believe is one of the most dangerous people in the world, you got to answer for that. you got to explain it. >> absolutely. >> so the question is now that you've had some time to get your thoughts together here do you believe that trip was something you shouldn't have done. the way you acted in that interview you shouldn't have done? >> i'll do a press conference next week in new york and like i told you i'll have an open mic for any press that wants to come and see this interview they can ask me anything in the world about north korea. like i said i speak from my heart. like i said, i'm a human first. what i said in the media, stuff like that. i said i don't know him as a dictator. with him he's a 31-year-old guy and i call him a kid all the time and yeah he's my friend. i look at him as that because he gave me the opportunity to at

least come in to the country of north korea to bring a basketball team, to show the world, just show the world that we can actually get along. i wasn't trying to look in the history book and what went on what his grandfather or father, that wasn't my job. >> or him. >> or him. that wasn't my job. that wasn't my assignment to go over, hey, kim jong-un can i come over here and ask you questions why you're such a bad guy. we go into the political stage of this that wasn't my job. i said that from day one. i'm not an ambassador. i'm not a diplomat. that's not my job. >> i agree. >> my job was to go and do one thing, to go do a documentary with a team from beijing and we did the documentary stuff right there. >> did you go over there originally because you were

getting paid or out of some sense of purpose or both? >> i'll explain it like this. i didn't think i was going to north korea at all. that popped out of the blue. this company in beijing wanted us to do a documentary with them about north korea. >> it was about getting paid also, right? >> the one thing that anyone in the world especially professional basketball, anything like that, i said guess what? you can pay me a dollar i'll still play the game of basketball. phil jackson, anybody in the world -- it's not about the money. it's never been about the money. >> it's not about the money. you go there to do the documentary. i get you're not an ambassador. i get that. i get you're not about the politics. i get that. but you have to get that when you call this man your friend, and you seem to suggest that he's not a bad guy, and see there's not to you. he's eat ear good guy or a bad guy and there's really not a

close call on this, dennis, because of the atrocities that's happened there that he's responsible for, the regime, the oppression, what's happened with his uncle. you got to deal with that. he can be whatever you want him to be to you but you have to be open with people being upset with the idea when you call him a friend and a good guy when he does very bad things. do you get that? >> i get that. but i say the same thing like wow, you know, i keep dealing people i'm not there to be an ambassador to try to figure out why did you go -- why are you doing all these things. that's not my job. my job is to go there and do one thing. to go there and see if i can bring two countries together for a couple of days. >> just avoid it. just avoid talking about him at all. don't say he's a good guy. >> you know what? you know what's amazing.

since i've been in this place here, you know gorbachev? >> i do. >> did anybody say the fact that gorbachev was president of russia and we went over there to make amends and blend us and russia together did anybody talk about that? as i've been saying tv, i don't know anything about plirks tv, russia was the first country to have nuclear wars, nuclear weapons while we as americans as we always do. we as americans are on the forefront that would take anyone in because we love people. we love people in america. i love people. i'm not judging because, you know, that person did something really, really bad. i don't know. >> you can know. the answer is yes, he did. you have to judge him by what he did. he's not a person looking for a new chance. >> i know that. but, you know what? i think in the bible, everyone reads the bible, right? >> and? >> no matter what color, what

creed or what bloodline you are we on this planet we're human beings first. i'm sorry people think i'm just leaning towards he's a great guy i want to live in north korea. no. >> the first part is though he's a great guy, i don't know him that way. i don't know what he did. he's my friend. >> i look at him like -- chris, i'll ask you a question one thing. let me ask you a question. >> please. >> you were in north korea? >> no i haven't been there. i'll go with you. >> you go with me. i'll give you this opportunity now on national tv, on national tv, i will take you over there and introduce you to him. >> great. . it you to come back here and tell the world, tell the world in "person to person" is he a nice guy when you meet him. when you meet him. not politics. when you meet him and sit down and have dinner with him. i want you to come -- i'm giving you and invitation.

>> i take the invitation. i take the invitation. >> i want you to go over there and see with your own eyes. i'm not worried about the politics. if he does these things -- >> there's no if. >> i don't go to the camps. i don't do anything. >> that's your choice. but they are there. >> that's great. that's great. i'm sorry. >> you don't have to apologize for it. it's not your fault. i'm just saying you have to understand when you make this man into something he's not it upsent people. that's it. i take your invitation. let's see how i feel when i meet him. i'll go whenever you want. i would be surprised, i'll tell you this, dennis as close and as tight as you are with this man i would be surprised if they let me come with you. i would be surprised. you have to ask why. why don't we want this guy? >> you know what? please, people take this in the right way. i'm not trying to take the

spotlight away from the super bowl. it's a great week for people in new york and around the world. great weekend. but i want to come on and say this because i want people to understand this. you know, i'm not a traitor. i've never been a traitor. i want to make people happy in the world. that's my goal. is to make people happy. i've done everything in the world between the time i was born to 52 years old. i'm still living. i'm so happy the fact i got great people around me. >> people believe in you. >> people believe in me. >> people think you have a good heart. >> i have a great heart. my intentions are not bad intentions. i want people to understand that. when i was playing basketball people loved the hell out of me. >> they still do. they came at me for the last interview. a lot of people support you. that's not what it's about. i want to take a quick break. we'll give the show a little bit of a rest. it puts us to where we are right

now, you're trying to figure out what comes next four and here and here and in the outside world. i'm very interested in where you'll go from here. let's take a break and we'll come back with dennis. >> all right. [ tires screech ]

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welcome back to "new day". we're still here with dennis. you're smiling and laughing. i guess that's good. how is it going so far? >> it's awesome to be alive. and it's very encouraging the fact that, you know, i have an opportunity to speak my mind on national tv around the world,

and like i say, i want to say hello to my kids. hope you guys are watching this. daddy is safe. he's trying to get things together. and hopefully i'll see you guys soon. that's all i want to say. >> that happens to be the most important. when you think why you're here are your kids at the top of the list? >> i said it all around the world. people respected me from saying what my heart feels and what i said in the hall of fame speech, you know what? the one thing i regret is the fact is i haven't been a great dad. i've been an awful dad because of the things i've been doing and some mishaps i've been doing and stuff like that that i have no control over. like i said, one day i will be that father and like i said, there's a lot of step i have to take before i die and this is one of the major ones i take to show my kids that i'm not a dead beat dad, i'm a cool guy you can come to and we can show the crown. i will be a father one day and like i say, things don't happen

overnight. >> what does it take to you get there? what's that struggle about? >> just release a lot inhibition of dennis rodman. they say you create this monster, dennis and you can't get out. i can get out. it depends do i want to get out. like being in rehab or whatever, trying to face your, you know, your inhibit tmpinhibitions and. >> what is it like for you >> it's like a seesaw. i've had the opportunity of all the years to try to balance it out and i've told myself and other people, you know what? yes, i tell people absolutely if i drink two or three days in a row, yes i'm an alcoholic. absolutely. i have no shame in that. i told dr. drew when i was on

the show that, he asked me can you stop drinking and i said i don't think so. that's honest. >> what does that mean to you you can't stop drinking. >> i've seen myself -- i've seen myself grow up at the age of 45, 50 years old. i'm always a kid at heart first but in the last five years i've really grown up to have my eyes open instead of walking around with blinders and thinking i'm the shit. >> we're on cable. >> i said i'm here to do one thing to keep everything in perspective. to realize that i don't need to put myself in harm's way to drink or anything. >> but people are worried about you. look, we joke around about what this interview, what are hard questions and what isn't. north korea is what it is. that situation is what is it. i'll tell you what the hard discussion is. that's the big reason. this is no joke what goes on in a place like this. and i have less concern about

what happens with you and foreign policy than i do about how you take this opportunity, what it means because people don't come here just to get their head together. if you want to face up, everybody drinks for a reason, dennis. never just to have a good time. you know that. i don't need to lecture you about it. it's hard. i know it's hard. i'm not hearing that process. it sounds like this is a little rest point for you to collect yourself and move forward as opposed to taking on addiction. is that fair? >> i've had my addiction for the last 20 years. you don't think it takes effect? yes, it does. >> you still drink too much sometimes and make people worried about you. >> it's like saying to me if i see somebody else -- if i saw say -- if i saw you -- say if i saw you drinking and you drank two or three days in a row, is it my responsibility to tell you i care about you would you stop drinking? >> yes it is. >> is that going to make you to stop drinking because i said so?

>> no, i have to bottom out. >> that's what i've been doing for the last 15, 20 years. >> bottoming out? >> i've been curbing my addiction. when you come in to a rehab facility and the doctor will tell enthusiast, anyone who comes to any rehab no matter what it is, alcohol, drugs, sex, whatever, they want to you come in as an addiction. >> as an addict. >> as an addict. when you come in to the rehab, they don't just cut you off completely. they don't do that. they have to do one thing. they wean you off slowly. understand it. they just don't say hey stop drinking now. >> it's hard. >> way too hard. you got to have a few days to get everything -- >> this is important stuff. this is the process. this is what people need to hear. let's take a break and bring in

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welcome back to "new day" and of course with dennis rodman. we're with one of his doctors. we're talking about the process what we're heepg for dennis and others that find themselves in this process. we were talking about redemption and putting north korea in the past. one thing, you're in here, trying to process thoughts. do you have something that you feel is important to say to your teammates who were there with

you to the bae family. your words meant a lot to them a lot in a hurtful way. maybe now there's some healing for to you do. something you want to say to them. >> i'll say it again, i'm not an ambassador and i tried to describe it and tell people just because i know the marshal, that doesn't mean i know the marshal like that. i don't know anything about the guy kenneth bae. i know nothing about him. i didn't know who he was. people thought i knew. >> you also suggested in the interview that he had done something wrong. >> i never said what he did because i didn't know what he did. >> you suggested like he did something wrong. >> i went back to the question, do you know what de. people respond so badly. >> you don't think he did anything wrong? >> to this day i still don't know what he did. i never suggested i knew.

>> do you want to apologize to the bae family. >> i don't know the bae family. i don't want anyone -- if any country or anyone to be hostage for something they did or did not do. i'm not in government. i don't know how that works. dealing with the bae family, like i say i feel for them. i feel for them deeply. like i said, i will do anything, literally, anything this is dennis rodman talking. if they say we'll take dennis rodman and let kenneth bae go, straightaway take me. >> that offer is very generous. that offer -- >> i will do that. >> when i go to mostly cloudy with you don't say take him and let kenneth bae. >> i would do that. you would exchange yourself for him. >> i have no problem. >> 15 years of hard labor. >> like i said, i don't want to

get into that. obama if he wants to address that, stuff like that and just to clear it up, people think i hate obama. i think obama has done a hell of a job. i give him credit. you catch me saying certain things off key like ice my fault. i like the guy. >> so you own what you said in the past. you apologize for what you said in the past. now we come forward. dock, to as we were talking earlier, i've spontaneity lot of time as you know over the years understanding, working in and around the rehab process. this is unusual to have somebody who wants to come in during the treatment and see it as part of their healing process. explain to it me, doc. >> much like he said before it's very unusual in the middle of a process for someone to start asking and start probing and taking the focus off what it is you might be working on.

you know, i was struck by something that was said before and i just -- it's on my mind i don't want it to get lost when somebody says i party. there's million americans this weekend, this super bowl is coming up that are going to party from friday to sunday. and monday maybe. and they are going to say i don't have a problem. i just party. they have a problem. families suffer. people suffer. you know, there's, i think, going into much like you said, going into a place like this, beginning to sort of understand yourself and understand do i have a problem, can i cutback, does it work for me? some people can. some people can't. >> why do you believe it can be healing for dennis to come out and talk about these issues and put out there how he really feels. how is that part of the process? >> well, working your steps, making amends. it's a part of the process. but one of the things that is unorthodox to do it here now but

one of the things that was happening with dennis and much like you see, this son his mind. it's on his mind 24/7. many times you can't start do the work until you take care of some things and i think this is important for him. >> does it make stoins? >> it makes sense. you can't come in and say i want to treat this problem. you have to treat everything that's been a big trig tour over the years. >> do you know what those things are? >> i don't have a trigger. the only trigger i have is the fact that i need to be a better father. i got a couple of things in my life i need to pay attention to. and hopefully people will look at me and say at least i'm trying. i'm not coming here and say great he's here for vacatio. >> have you seen dennis working the program while he's in here? >> sure. i've spent hours with him. spent a lot of time with him.

>> what has to happen to go forward? what has to happen? for this to actually work what has to happen on your side and then i want to hear what the doctor thinks about what you say. >> well, you know, people see me in public and the first thing people say we just saw him at a club, we just saw him at a hotel. the first picture you're going to see me he had a drink. that didn't work for dennis. really? north korea and all this other stuff. for me it's going to work. the fact i can't go out there and preach the 12 steps of being sober. i can't do that. >> you're not following it. >> doesn't matter if i follow them in one through 12 or six to 12. if i can do at least half of

that, half the battle is won. if i can do half of that, in my own way if i can do it great. at least i've tried. i tried. >> can you not drink? >> no. >> can you not drink? >> it's like saying can i not drink? >> you mean water? >> can you not -- >> i don't need to abuse alcohol. that's not on my mind. if i don't have anything to do yes i go and smoke my cigars and have a good time. absolutely. i can say that with a straight face? no. if i have a drink great. am i relapsing? i don't think so. i'm telling the world i'm trying to do it. >> doctor, it rarely works that way. >> it rarely works that way.

one thing i was struck by -- you know, dennis, we have a lot of science now that tells us many thing but one of the first things i learned when i came to this field are people, places and things. dennis lives in an environment where he is in clubs, he is sort of on the stage. he was telling me he walks into a bar and before he sits down people bought him ten drinks. even somebody with the best recovery would be a challenge by that. he has a challenge that way. >> can you leave this facility, i'm talk towing directly, can you go in any facility and then go to a restaurant and know you're a drinker and they say here's ten drinks. every where you go here's ten drinks. let's have a shot. let's have a shot all time. literally all the time.

>> dennis it's your choice. >> i know it's my choice. i'm asking a question. i go to restaurants and bars. >> you can't drink. >> i was sober for 19 months. i did it by myself. >> that's great. >> my friends took care of me when i was in bars. he's not drinking. i have great friends. great friends around me. and you keep wanting to say guess what, dennis is not following the steps. >> i'm one of the people who wants to see you do your best. >> i'm never going to dive alcohol. i'm never going to die of alcohol. guys, if you want to help me, when i come out please be free to say dennis thank you, you're trying. do that for me. >> doctor, thank you for being part of this process. dennis, i appreciate the opportunity. i'll talk to you whenever you

want. i'll go with you to north korea. but we know you got to watch my back. >> i got you, brother. >> all right. we'll take a break. we'll be right back with "new day".

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. breaking this morning, amanda knox speaking out for the first time since an italian court found her guilty once again in the murder of her former roommate. knox says she was not willing, she will not willingly go back to an italian prison any time soon but could she be forced too? could she be extradited?

let's talk about the process going forward with jose baez and sunny hostin. a lot of questions here. it's always difficult between the italian legal system and the u.s. legal system so you guys have been covering this really from the beginning. let's talk about this. sony we had amanda knox's u.s. attorney on earlier in the show and he said this process is far from over. he said the next step could be a year out when they move forward with this appeal. what do you make of it? >> that makes sense. the written decision outlining why, you know, she was found guilty again is still unclear. that decision is going to come out in about 90 days. we don't know the reasoning. there's another 90-day opportunity to appeal it. the last appeal took quite a bit of time. we're a year out in terms of appeal. ultimately i think this is going to turn into an extradition fight. i suspect the italian supreme

court is going to affirm this conviction and then the fight begins. the real question is a year from now will the united states agree to extradite her to italy. >> jose that begs the question even before the united states posed that question i even wonder i think if it gets to this point do you think italy will ask for extradition. >> i think they will. they are going through a lot of trouble right now to try these cases with or without her being present so, yes, they are going to extradite her. i disagrees slight iwith sony. granted the process will take a while but there's nothing stopping them for asking for extradition now. she's been convicted now. sure there are appellate processes that need to move forward in italy but that doesn't stop them from moving forward and asking for extradition now. once that happens that process will take an extensive period of time where it goes from the department of state all the way through the entire extradition

process but the key will be for amanda will the court grant her a bond while she's fighting extradition. because if not she will be detained here in the united states and it could be a long drawn out battle where she will have to do that behind bars. >> sonic all along we said it's unlikely the state department who step in and extradite an american to italy. >> i would disagree with jose. no way she's going to be held behind bars. italy won't extradite her now. it's too premature. i suspect the united states will not hand her over to italy. lot of this evidence wouldn't have passed constitutional or judicial muster here in the united states and we have that constitutional right of double jeopardy. i mean in the united states the fact that she was convicted, but then reversed on appeal and acquit and sent home means this should have been over for her. the fact that there's this tension in the law between italy

and the united states, i can't imagine that the united states is going say, you know, italy now you got three times to try her over and over and over again and we'll hand our citizen over to you. it's just not going to happen. i see jose shaking his head. you know i'm right. >> look, someone who is not an attorney, not smart in terms of the italian legal system. she's went convicted once, overturned once, convicted twice what stops it from them overturning it twice. >> 90% kpraft additions is for someone to be extradited to stand trial. she's already stood trial a couple of times. so there is nothing stopping them coming and asking for extradition. i disagree severely with sonny. the arguments sonny is making is for her to fight it through a habeas corpus violation.

what's unique about this case is a lot of the pre-trial publicity. jurors aren't sequestered. that the united states might find is a failure of due process for amanda and that would be a unique argument to this specific case. >> this is an amazing and complex legal drama playing out. we have to be there's a family still suffering. meredith kercher's family trying to get some closure to what happened to their loved one. this is interesting. i want to continue this conversation. we'll wrap it up. great to see both of you. happy friday, guys. that does it for "new day" everyone. carol costello and "newsroom" begins right after a quick break. [ male announcer ] imagine this cute blob is metamucil.

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