that? >> i'm too smart for that. i love the state of washington and i love the state of colorado. >> you're not running for anything anymore. >> interview with the president of the united states. remember, you can always follow us going on here in "the situation room." tweet me at wolf blitzer. tweet the show @cnn. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. next did he or didn't he? "the new york times" suggests chris christie knew more about the bridge closure than he's letting on christie's future is on the line. amanda knox won't willingly go back to italy. will she be forced to serve time? she speaks. howie man dell on growing up with obsessive compulsive disorder. my special guests tonight. let's go "out front."

and good evening to all of you. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight breaking news involving chris christie. "the new york times" says there is evidence that the new jersey governor, a likely 2016 republican presidential candidate, knew about the lane closures on the george washington bridge. this, of course, is the scandal threatening his political career. the big question we have tonight is where is the prove? let me lay out exactly what happened. here's the headline "the new york times" first posted to. . christie knew about lane closings export official says. the headline seems to say he knew about them before they happened. "the new york times" has toned that headline down to this. export authority official says evidence exists christie knew about lane closings, evidence which we do not yet have. the applied allegation is huge and it relies -- and here we have chris christie. i just want to show you this. show you a live picture. breaking news here. this is chris christie coming out of a birthday party here in

new york city. howard stearns' 60th birthday party. a source who was inside that room told me personal bely that chris christie was just on stage that he was on stage introducing jon bon jovi who was performing. important to let you know that's where chris christie is tonight. obviously as you can see, getting into his car and i don't believe we're going to get any comment from the governor but i don't want to cut away from this until we're sure we're not. he's already in the car. you can see the press and cameras around him because, as i said, the story and allegations could be huge. i have the letter, cnn has obtained it, this is the letter upon which "the new york times" is basing this story. it's a 2 1/2 page flert steve wildstein's attorney. he's at the center of the bridgegate. here is the key part of the letter and i want to read it to

you. it has also come to light that a person within the christie administration communicated the christie administration's order that certain lanes on the george washington bridge were to be closed and evidence exists as well tying mr. christie to having knowledge of the lane closures during the period when the lanes were closed. contrary to what the governor stated publicly in a two hour press conference, all right? here is what the governor said in that two hour press conference. >> i don't know what else to say except to tell them that i had no knowledge of this, of the planning, the execution, or anything about it just so we're really clear. i had no knowledge or involvement in this issue. >> there are two big questions tonight. did the governor know about the lane closures before they hand, therefore, did he order their closing? now the denials from christie we

just played don't point to an exact date of when the governor knew and a source in the governor's office tonight tells me that chris christie stands behind what he said at the press conference and the source categorically tells me that while the governor has not been specific about the exact date that he learned about the lane closures, he learned about them through press reports and the source further tells me that christie is still categorical that he did not know about them before and he did not direct wildstein to close the lanes, that he knew nothing about the clees showers prior to the event. so is this latest development in this letter damaging to christie or not? joining me now, political analyst steve oddo bad doe and paula gala. steve, let me start with you. you're a very familiar face to me and in this area. to those around the country you are a person who interviews chris christie often. you host town halls. you know the manuel. what do you think about this letter? you've looked at it. you've looked at "the new york times" story.

>> i've looked at that paragraph over and over again. if anyone says it helps the govern governor, it doesn't. here's the other part, i don't see it. mr. zegus, mr. wild stein's lawyer is he has the evidence. my question is, he has the evidence. he's saying he has evidence that could refute what the governor said in the press conference. my question is, it's 7:00, 7:05 to be exact on friday. why don't you say it right there? now if mr. wild stein is attempting to get someone, the port authority to pay for his legal defense, this is a way to do that and i'm not an attorney, i would argue i guess that's a way to do it. if you want to say that the governor lied, then show us how the governor lied. don't imply that you can prove it and then not prove it. then we in the media jump on it. what are we jumping on? >> right. >> we're jumping on conjecture or allegations. there's nothing there. i don't see it. >> paul, let me ask you. obviously you're on the democratic side of this. i know if you saw something here

you would be quick to jump on it. you would as you should. do you see anything? my issue with this paragraph is, first of all, it says did he know before and did he direct it? that seems to be the key question. this paragraph talks about evidence exists but nobody seems to have the evidence. >> well, in fact, that's right. i am a lawyer. steve, it's good to see you. >> good to see you. >> back in the day. even less than you say, steve. the lawyer does not say that mr. wilestein has evidence. it simply says evidence exists. mr. wilestein's been under subpoena. so he would be legally obligated to have already turned over what evidence he has. so, look, steve's right. there's no way you can spin this to be good for christie. it's terrible for him. at the same time everybody needs to take a breath and let the facts come out and evidence. let's get everybody under subpoena and under oath. get all the facts out there. steve knows this, the star ledger the biggest newspaper in that state and already they have

written if this is true he must resign or be impeached. he won a massive landslide a couple of months ago. i'm no chris christie defender. he's a bully. i don't like him. i would never vote for him. the people in new jersey did. i don't believe in overturning elections without a hell of a high bar. >> do you think that if everything in this paragraph is true that this is a bombshell. i'm getting back to this and maybe i'm wrong, the issue is during this period he never said he didn't know during, when he knew, except for that one definitive line that i did not know before or i did not order it. if they had proof of that, and that he ordered it, that would be a bombshell. >> that would be a bombshell. by the way, paul, if is a big if. the ledger and anyone else says that, i write for the ledger, that's a huge if. the huge issue is also this. when the governor said he believed it to be a traffic study, if that letter or any other evidence comes out that the governor in fact knew it was not a traffic study, in fact, it

was something else, political retribution, if you will, then we're talking about game, set, match. >> a bombshell. exactly. >> paul, i do respect the governor, i like the governor. i'm not a cheerleader for the governor. i'll say this, paul. anything other than the governor leading this effort, anything other than the governor lying about the fact, erin, that he, as he said, believed it was a traffic study, everything else is conjecture and you can't prove any of this. i don't know where you go with it. >> right. >> there are other people who will say stuff as well about the governor. >> right. you have to have the proof. paul, christie addressed his relationship with david wilestein. the guy is under subpoena, to your point. he's at the center of this. he's trying to save his skin. here's what chris christie said about it. >> well, let me just clear something up, okay, about my childhood friend david wilestein. it is true that i met david in

1977 in high school. he's a year older than me. david and i were not friends in high school. we were not even acquaintances in high school. we didn't travel the same circles in high school. you know, i was the class president and athlete. i don't know what david was doing during that period of time. we went 23 years without seeing each other. in the years we did see each other, we passed in the hallways. >> that's a pretty nasty sound bite, paul. it's pretty nasty. i play it not just for entertainment value but because it raises the questions for david wildstein's motives when he says this. he's angry. he hates the guy. >> who cares. well, he should. that's what i mean by the guy is a bully. i respect his political tall length. i don't want to see it overturned. he's a bully. look at that arrogance. i was a jock. he sure ain't a jock anymore. why do you have to kick the guy while he's down.

just a low class thing that christie did. now i don't care what wild dls steen's motives are. i could care less. get the facts out. i'm sure wildstein's feelings were hurt. he filed bridgette kelly and he called her an idiot. >> paul, i respect what you're saying and i know you want the facts out but it seems to me while you don't like the governor's tone there, i may disagree with the fact that he handled that, believe me, there are times when i've had situations with the governor and he's come after me on the air and i thought he was overly aggressive, here's the thing. that's not a crime. you don't throw somebody out of office over those things. >> that's right. >> we're talking about this bombshell, respectfully, i don't see it. when i see the bombshell and i see the evidence and it's clear-cut, that's when you call for somebody to be thrown out of office. this is -- i don't see it. >> yeah. totally with you. i don't want the voters decisions overturned. i mean, that goes back to the declaration of evidence where

jefferson said. i am not calling for that. i'm not saying this is a crime but there is a pattern of bullying that this governor's had throughout his term in office and this fits into that. >> that, of course, is what he has to put all of those sound bites back into headlines. they both agree, both steve and paul, that this is not a bombshell which seemed to be our take reading it. i'm not a lawyer. if we find out that he knew it before and that it wasn't a traffic study -- >> that's a different story. >> -- those would be bombshells and political changers. thanks very much to fwoet of you. go online, read this letter. cnn has made it available. out fro "out front" next, we'll take a ride over to the stadium in a blackhawk because they are circling all around the area. chinook, blackhawks. plus, amanda knox plans to fight it. a team of american olympic athletes doing something that has never been done before.

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number of super bowl security scares today near the stadium. hazardous materials team and bomb squads brought in after white powder was found in several new jersey hotels. a suspicious letter also found at the manhattan office of new york city mayor rudy giuliani. the fbi was looking into these tweeting substances and suspicious letters in new york and new jersey deemed nonhazardous. we're on super bowl boulevard.

alexandra, you got a massive look at the security in effect. we've seen these helicopters flying over. you got a bird's eye view from a blackhawk. what did you see? >> we got a look at the stadium. the goal really in the air on sunday will be to keep everyone away from met life stadium. there is a no fly zone in place and border protection agents showed us how they're going to enforce that no fly zone. they'll be sending up blackhawk helicopters on sunday. we took a ride in one. the pilots of the blackhawks tell us if anyone breaches that protected air space, the blackhawks will intercept. they will use physical signs and radio signals to communicate with the pilot and let that pilot know they're in protected air space. the blackhawk would then plan to eg escort the pilot to the ground and federal agents would be waiting. that pilot would have some questions to answer. now on the ground there is a

vast security effort that's being coordinated and a secret command center. we also got a tour of that. law enforcement officers from 100 different state, local and federal agencies are working together. this is a place where they can share information and intelligence in real time. they're also monitoring a vast network of cameras in real time. so, erin, they will have every angle of the super bowl covered. >> thank you very much, alexandra. you're going to see a lot more of alexandra's video. she has a special report on "new day saturday." joining me is tim clemente. tim, let me ask you about this because the super bowl obviously taking place in new york city, a central target for many who would do harm to the u.s., around the world. i was told today that this is a bigger risk event for new york city than new year's eve, which of course is seen by everyone around the world with thousands and thousands of people in times

square. do any other events compare to this one? >> well, first, let me say, erin, its great to have you back. maternity has done well for you. >> thank you, tim. >> events like this are called national specialty events. nsse is where the federal government takes the lead. secret service handles that. the fbi handles counter terrorism. in new york for times square, new year's eve, that's a local event only. it's not a major federal event like this, and the super bowl is an iconic event. iconic events are always the target of master or lists. al qaeda has gone after world trade centers which are the head of our finance in new york city. other iconic targets like that. the olympics in 1996 were targeted by a lone bomber. iconic events are things that we worry about the most.

it attracts global attention. if a terrorist can create any kind of havoc, they get worldwide exposure for their cause. >> thank you very much. tim clemente. i can tell you as someone who lives here, we're not seeing that sort of security and certainly not the military helicopters ever before. despite the massive security operations surrounding the game, new york is going crazy with super bowl celebrations. for starters, times square has been transformed into what's called super bowl boulevard. fans are lining up to pretend they're the star player all suited up even making the kick of the lifetime. there's a super bowl winning football there. the best part is the super bowl tow book -- toboggan run. it has eight lanes. for the truly adventurous fan is a bud light hotel. it will have the fu fighters, run dmc. hopefully no neurovirus comes with that. still to come, a group of

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countdown to the olympics. u.s. athletes arriving in sochi today ahead of the 2014 winter olympic games. all in all 213 members of the winter games. the largest delegation. among them is the first ever american olympic ski jumping team. getting to this point, getting to sochi for this opportunity of a lifetime was an uphill battle for the ski jumpers. ted rollins is "out front" with what really is an inspiring story. >> she's super bound. >> jegs ssica jerome, the feeli of a perfect jump is like nothing else. >> it's everless, clean and you just float. >> reporter: jessica's incredible olympic journey started with this jump at the age of 7.

>> number 7, jessica jerome. >> good jump, jess. >> she came home and announced she wanted to ski jump. i had no idea what she was talking about. >> reporter: within a few years she was competing hitting jumps at 60 plus miles per hour right alongside the boys. >> we jumped with our hair tucked back and you couldn't tell the difference. >> reporter: it was decided that women would only be able to compete against each other. >> which was great for us because we had our own -- we wanted our own competitions, but then they would say, well, you just don't have the depth that the guys have. >> reporter: the women could compete but no olympics and no official support. >> the guys were sponsored by the u.s. ski team. they had a substantial budget compared to what the girls had. the girls had nothing. >> reporter: but they kept jumping, and the former mayor of salt lake city who had firsthand

experience with the olympics got involved. >> this is discrimination, plain and simple. >> reporter: but for decades the international olympic committee disagreed. >> the sport must be widely practiced around the world. this is not the case for women's ski jumping. jessica and lindsey van and girls from five different countries decided to take on the ioc in koufrmt they filed suit and demanded that women jumpers be included in the vancouver olympics. it turned out to be another heartbreaking defeat. >> there was a lot of times when i wasn't sure i wanted to jump anymore. >> reporter: jessica says watching the vancouver olympics felt like seeing a party that she wasn't invited to, and she was getting tiertd of fighting. >> i didn't like having to be an advocate for the sport. i would rather have been a participant. >> i would be the first to say i was very narrow minded when the women first started fighting. >> reporter: but now he's a believer and he'll coach the

first ever u.s. women's olympic ski jumping team at sochi. >> they are going to be one of the biggest stories of sochi. they already are. such a cinderella story because of the pureness of it. >> to see these athletes finally achieve their dreams is just fabulous. >> took so long. a lot of energy. a lot of sacrifice. it's a great moment for them. >> reporter: opening ceremonies, what's that going to be like for you? >> i have no idea. i hear from other people that it's awesome and i'm expecting it to be probably the moment where everything kind of sinks in. >> reporter: jessica's olympic dreams started as that 7-year-old who loved to jump, and while she says she's proud of the fight it took to realize that dream, she's glad it's over. >> now i can focus on training and trying to have the best jumps of my life. >> reporter: ted rollins, cnn, park city, utah. still to come, amanda knox reacts to being convicted of

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amanda knox is defiant. she says she's not going back to jail. >> i will never go willingly back to the place where i -- i'm going to fight this until the very end. >> that was knox speaking out today on abc's ""good morning

america."" guilty of murder for the second time in four years. earlier this morning they found schelleto. at first it appeared he was trying to flee. his attorney says he was driving to his girlfriend's home and not trying to flee the country. the former couple was convicted in 2009 of killing meredith kircher in what prosecutors described as a sex game gone wrong. tabloids dubbed the american exchange student foxy knoxy. she was freed in 2011 after an appeals court in italy overturned the guilty verdict. at the time that court cited a lack of evidence. the reversal was another stunning twist in the case. the world watched as knox returned home to her family in seattle. that's where she was when she says she watched her third trial unfold in disbelief.

>> like this really has hit me like a train. i did not expect this to happen. i really expected so much better from the italian justice system. they found me innocent before. how can they say that it's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? >> the guilty verdict is little consulation to meredith kircher's family. after nearly seven years of controversial evidence and testimony they now say they may never know the truth. >> nothing's, of course, going to bring meredith back. nothing will ever take away the horror of what happened to her. the best we can hope for is, of course, finally bringing this whole case to a conclusion, you know, and a conviction and everybody can then move on with their lives. >> there's one more appeal left. italy's highest court. there is going to be a decision. the final conclusion could still be a way off. amanda knox says she will fight.

>> there are people who know better than i do the way these systems work and -- and the way that there was this entirely preventible thing that happened that was systematic, and i really hope that -- that people try to understand that like when you have over zealous prosecutors and when you have a biased investigation and coercive interrogations like these things happen and i'm not crazy. >> that, of course, is her side of the story. "out front" steve moore a special fbi agent who wrote a book about the knox case and advised the family and cnn analyst and former homicide prosecutor, paul callahan. very spirited conversation last night. you ardently disagree. paul, let me start with you. does she convince you when you hear her, you see her speak, of

innocence? i mean, this is the reason this still captures so many people's minds when they see this is people still don't know. >> i think today's interview she's very convincing. she's extremely sympathetic. she's for the first time almost weepy in her approach. the hair's been cut. it looks like she's sort of had a makeover for the purpose of projecting in a different way. a lot of the criticism of her initially was she came across as being cold and unfeeling. by the way, in jury trials or in judge trials the way a defendant comes across often has an effect. now i thought in that interview very, very emotional, very human and i think this is an attempt to humanize her because american public opinion is going to be very important on the extradition issue which she -- >> if she is convicted by the highest court in the land of italy, steve, obviously you have ardently made the case for her innocence. you just heard her speak.

she said this hit her like a train but, you know, it's not quite as clear-cut as that interview seemed to imply, right? she had been convicted, then she was acquitted, then convicted. this is an appeals process. that's the process there. was she really not prepared for this to go either way? >> i think she was hoping against hope that it was going to go her way and, yes, actually, it is a little bit cut and dry. the way the italians couch this is an ongoing appeals process. that's like calling water boarding part of an interrogation. you can call it what you want but it's really something else. when the extradition request comes to america, i believe one day it will, because i don't believe in the italian legal system, i believe it will be defined by how an american court judges double jeopardy and they impaneled a jury against her with the same charge after an

acquittal. there's no chance in america of this not being seen as double jeopardy. >> you can't try someone for the same crime twice. they call that the way their appeals system works. paul, before we get to that, that will be the crucial question on the extradition question. i want to ask this. it seems so many people assume it's a bad justice system, they didn't do it right. still, reasonable doubt is a very difficult thing to prove and it has never been -- you know, that's a matter of -- a subjective comment. it's not as if everyone knows what happened that night. they don't. how can we say their system is bad because she got convicted? >> i don't think you can say that and i don't think it's fair to say that. with the italian system it's different than ours. it's a sort of combined judge and jury system. you have a judge and sometimes two judges and then laypeople who sit on the court and hear the evidence. that's on the lower court, the trial court. it's in the middle level court and eventually it goes to the supreme court.

in the end, this evidence has been looked at and analyzed by a huge number of judges and ordinary people and ultimately we now have a finding of guilt. i think you can't say that their process isn't a correct process. they looked carefully at this evidence. you might disagree with their analysis, but they certainly tried to be careful. >> steve, to that point, first of all, i want to go through some of the evidence. we went through this last night. i know you find all of this evidence not to be compelling. you've gone through reasons why. i don't need you to do that. the knife had her dna, meredith's on it. the knife didn't fit the profile of the one that was used to kill meredith. the bra clasp, the confession, and a homeless man. you've explained away a lot of the evidence. can you explain away a lot of it. is there a tiny part in your mind where you don't know? >> no, there's no part of me

that doesn't know. by the way, i do respect mr. callan's experience with prosecutions. i'm a prosecution guy at heart, but the -- it is not that i disagree simply to disagree with this bad evidence. as mr. callahan will tell you, there are rules of evidence. if rules of evidence aren't followed, then bad evidence gets in. i am not saying that this is legitimate evidence that is misinterpreted, i am saying this is i will legitimate thaefd should never have come into court, never would have come into a united states court because it's i will legitimate. it is like playing a football game where -- >> let me ask you this question. even if that's i will legitimate, how does that mean that she didn't do it? how can you be so sure? this keeps coming up again, up again, up again. people are so obsessed with it. if they were 1,000% sure i don't know that they would be obsessed with it. there's always a question. >> there isn't a question.

here's what happened. you have a burglar going into a house. he is surprised by a woman coming home. he kills her. he sexually assaults her, he leaves. what happens then is you have his dna and her dna, that's it on the crime scene. guess what, we have only that. if amanda and rafael were in the murder room, had anything to do with it, their dna, their finger prints, their evidence would be there. absence of evidence is evidence of absence. >> are you saying a burglar is the guy who's in jail now? >> yes, that's him. >> before we go, fair point, right? he said -- what would be the motive of the italian justice system to go after this american girl? i don't get it. i don't understand. >> i can answer that. >> let me talk about it for a minute because steve's written a book saying it's superstition. religious bias. ignorance. i look at the system and say they don't charge just an

american girl, they charged an italian national, they charged amanda knox with the thing and an american girl. why do they single out all of these people for a crime that they -- at least two of them they didn't commit? let me say one other thing about the case that's strange i think in terms of steve's approach. why is everything fwlong this case? the confession's wrong, the dna's wrong, the knife is wrong. >> i can tell you why. >> the motive is wrong. the prosecutors are corrupt and they're all ignorant superstitious idiots. that's over reaching. >> steve, reply. >> the week before the murder rudy, the burglar, was arrested in milan for the burglary. the police asked to lease him and send him back to perusia. the only reason to do that is he's a police informant. a week later he murders a woman

and the police in town say, oh, my god, we got a guy out and he's killed a woman, how do we save our butts now. that's what this is all about. >> they got the supreme court of italy involved in this conspiracy? >> yes, they do. >> that's like saying -- >> you're being naive. you don't understand the italian system. you are defending -- you are defending something you don't understand. >> i'm only -- i am going to hit pause there. that's why i love having you on on this. of course, we want you a all to weigh in. this is why this case is so compelling to so many because people still have these questions. still to come, the latest installment of our special kids in crisis. we get howie mandel to discus his mental health crisis and the pope is coming up.

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he joked about it last night on the "tonight show." >> this is purell. you have been -- to cement our friendship, you have always been a wonderful friend. you've been a supporter. >> you're supposed to do it afterward. >> no. i have never done -- i swear to god, but you deserve it. you're a good friend. you're an icon. i love you, jay. >> love you, buddy. >> all right. howie mandel. >> you can see howie mandel "out front." the point jay was making, why do you have to -- why did you want to dip your hand in before you shook your hand? do you feel the need to do it afterwards? >> just part of -- well, you know, truth be told i -- my fear, ocd is much more complicated than i've led people to believe. it's not just my fear of germs, it's just i obsess. people who have ocd can't get through a thought. so my biggest fear is that i

will trigger something but i get a lot of help and i see people, i'm medicated as i sit here. i knew i wouldn't be triggered by -- you know, i know intellectually if i shake somebody's hand i'm not going to get sick and die. >> right. >> there are times in my life where i have touched something or somebody and then i'm just obsessed for the rest of the day in scalding my hand. i'll wash my hand and go out. i feel like i missed a spot and i go back. i come out. then i go back and i wash. and i get into this never-ending obsessive, you know, compulsive world and i can't leave and move on with my life. it just stops my life. that's ocd. >> so what was it like? now you're in a position where you have a medication which i want to talk to you more about. you have the help in the form of a therapist to deal with this. what was it like as a child when you didn't really have those things and you're dealing with it? when did you know it was different? how afraid did you feel? what was it like?

>> well, here's the -- and this is the reason i wanted to do this show. i happen to have a title for what i have. it was diagnosed late in life, in adulthood i learned what i had was ocd. and i learned that what i had, an inability to focus and concentrate was adhd. as a child i didn't know that these things even existed. i knew that i was very different. i knew that i felt isolated. i knew that -- you know, like i didn't want to -- i'll give you an example. very young age i can remember i had learned to tie my shoes. went to school and the laces came undone. they touched the floor and then i didn't want to touch the laces and tie the shoe so i would walk along with a limp just trying to keep my shoe on so it wouldn't fall off. the kids would make fun of the way i walked. the kids would make fun of the fact that i didn't know how to

tie my shoes because i didn't want to say i knew how to tie my shoes because i would have to touch it. it was an incredible amount of presh oornd and stress and isolation. it was very depressing. though i come from probably one of the most supportive, loving families anybody could come from and i survived it, i'm here to talk about it. i believe this is -- this is why i talk about it. this is the problem with the world. mental health is the problem. there is nothing in place. there wasn't and isn't anything in place where people could identify a problem and go to the problem. i was talking to you before we went to air. you just had a baby. having just had a baby i would imagine you have lined yourself up with with a pediatrician. why do you have a pediatrician? is your baby sick? >> no. you are always worried.

you are scared. >> you go there and the pediatrician will weigh your baby and say it is growing and it will test your baby and you will check your baby. when your baby gets older you will have a dentist and the dentist will check your baby's teeth. if they are not growing right maybe a retainer. what is in place for mental health? how do you know the baby is responding the way they are supposed to respond? nobody would identify me as being afraid. everything i would tell you would be, would almost sound normal. i don't want touch my laces because they touch the ground and they are dirty. we take care of our dental health and not our mental health. i believe this is a scene for every problem we have in this world right now from the kids walking into columbine and killing people to drug addiction to the way we deal with

education because we don't know how -- kids don't know how to cope in social situations or even in today's school. it is proven by medical people that even our physical health is greatly impaired ed affected br mental health. there are some thoughts that they are tracing it back to the strepvirus. i had incredible strep throat and ear infections and they find a lot of people that had severe infections as a child there is a big number of people that are affected later on in this way. >> another thing that you often hear about things like adhd that it is overdiagnosed and kids are put on a lot of -- estudies have proven adderall can be powerful and addictive.

some believe they can cause horrible things. i know you are on a lot of drugs. how do you deal with that, with the people who say it is overmedicated? >> i believe that with all ailments we have sometimes people are overmedicated. that being said if you are diagnosed with something then there's a pendency. >> having gotten where you have gotten in life and talking about this and people saying i will never admit to be in that situation because i will look weak you come out and do it. kids can say i can be like him and have that and that is powerful. >> the thing is we have to lose the embarrassment and the stigma. this is what your series is about here, mental health. from the time you have a baby and i'm telling you this as a new mother, just be cognizant that you may want to make it part of your little boy's world

like you are going to take him to the dentist take him to a counselor and see if he is responding in the most healthy way to whatever it is and be open. don't hide this because it is, i think it is the solution to making this world better if we would just be healthy mentally. so many of us aren't and we don't know how to cope. >> thanks. please give us your feedback on the interview. the paparazzi. millions of fans scream his name and now he is on the cover of "rolling stone." it's pope francis, next. increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disease. it seems that 80 is the new 18. grannies, bless your heart, you are bringing sexy back! eat up.

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you think of iconic "rolling stone" magazine covers this probably doesn't come to mind and few issues have garnered the attention of the world's first rock and roll pope. today pope francis is on the cover of "rolling stone," the first pope to make the cut. why this pope at this time? well, we asked the man who wrote the pope francis cover story. >> i write in the piece about going to see the pope and going to the general audience and there was a weird sort of i was

standing in the vip area with a bunch of mostly italians. they were shouting at him like paparazzi trying to get him to look up when he was near us the way he would if he was bieber. >> that is why "rolling stone" editors decided a 77-year-old pope could sell magazines to the youngest. it is not just magazines he is selling, pope francis is moving all kinds of merchandise from t shirts to buttons to pet wear and thongs. sales of merchandise are way up with some reporting an increase of 200% since francis took over. a pope celebrated for his humility has become a rock star hanging with the rich and famous. there are pope francis imperson

ate ers. for the first time in a long time the church is getting good press. that has to have catholics all over the world looking up. >> now we are waiting to see how popular the name francis and frances with an e for girls. good evening. we begin with breaking news. governor chris christie's one time political allies turning on him. one of the former allies issue >> i had no knowledge of this, the planning, execution of it. >> that is governor chris christie denying connection to the four day traffic jam of the