from the left i'm van jones. >> i'm cs.e. cupp. >> erin burnett starts right now. breaking news breaking his silence seconds away from the new jersey governor chris christie answering questions about the bridge scandal on the heels of new allegations. you see him arriving to take the questions. what did he know skm when did he know it. stocks tank. new details surrounding the death of actor philip seymour hoffman. out front we begin with the

big breaking news. chris christie answering questions. the new jersey governor seconds away from sitting down. he will be taking questions on the bridge scandal. you see him there arriving momes ago. he will be answering the questions in the ask the governor program. this is really important because it is the first time we have heard from the new jersey governor since his two hour news conference last month where he repeatedly denied having anything to do with closing down lanes on the george washington bridge. tonight's comments are pivotal. former official says he has evidence that chris christie knew about the lane closures. cnn's new poll shows the governor's ratings dropped. he can begin speaking at any moment. you saw his arrival. so many cameras there.

what is at stake tonight? >> well, i'll tell you what is at stake is this is the first time we hear from the governor. he is taking questions from jersey residents. this is a call in show. it will have national implications whatever he says. it comes the same day where subpoenas were due for many members of his team by democrats investigating him in the state house. it will be interesting to hear what is on jersey voters minds here and what kinds of questions are going to be asked. i think it is also important for folks to know jersey democrats asked members to call in. they say if you have questions now is your opportunity. it will be interesting to see if we are getting tough questions for the next hour for the governor. >> before you go and i know you are there monitoring it i think it is important the governor having to declare a state of emergency for snow. he had an out that probably

would have been legitimate enough. every was sent home who worked fr state government at noon today. he diplomat take it which seems to me that he is going to come out swinging. >> he could have said the roads are too bad. this is a way for him to show doing something he normally does. this is part of his routine and he is able to say this is part of what being the governor is, i'm going to answer questions without causing a national media circus. he is able to do in a way that says i'm just doing business as usual. it certainly has much more implications and he knows that. >> thank you very much. this is on camera even though it is a radio show. we know when he sits in the chair and when the interview starts. that is the room he is going to be. we anticipate the news director

ahead of time. we may get a direct question before. i want to bring in the new jersey assemblyman leading the investigation, really the point person on this, the commune kags director for the republican national committee and john avilan. great to have all of you with us. so you obviously have read the letter where the former head of the port authority says he has evidence showing that the governor knew about the lane closures during the time they were happening. you have been looking into this since october, october 2, i believe. he is entering the room. as soon as he starts answering questions we will dip in there. do you see a smoking gun here? >> not yet. i think it is important to look at the words used in the letter. mr. wildstein's attorney wrote this letter and it says that his

client is aware of information that would contradict the governor. we don't know if it is a document or a conversation or somebody he knows that has material. so i think we need to see exactly what this information is before we make judgments that it does contradict the governor. i'll say this. i'm sure he is not going to write the letter without having some reasonable basis that his client has something to say. we don't know what it is he has to say. >> the governor has come out aggressively. not that he hasn't spoken yet. he said -- let me play the sound byte of what he said about david wildstein once more. >> i was actually the guy out there. i was in overalls and a hat. i was the guy working the cones out there. you really are not serious with that question. i don't get involved in traffic studies. so what i can tell you is people

find it hard to believe. i don't know what else to say except to tell them that i had no knowledge of this of the planning, execution or anything about it. and then i first found out about it after it was over. >> and i want to get to the david wildstein question i had. let me ask you about that. he has said again and again and again if it turns out that there is a smoking gun and he is the guy looking into this. if there is he done? >> yeah. he put his credibility on the line. he is a former u.s. attorney. he is a pretty savvy politician. when he says he didn't know if he is lying he is done. >> he is taking a huge hit in the polls for this. republican choice for nominee back in the day. that was chris christie was number one. 24% of republicans were going to vote. now you can see mike huckabee is number one. he got trounced when he tried to

run for president. >> mike huckabee did very well last time. he was a huge figure in the party. additionally that is a little unfair. anybody would take a hit in the polls if you had the media pile on that we have seen over this event. i think the "new york times" what they did last weekend was just unbelievably reprehensible up there with tabloid media. the notion that this scandal that he admits there is no evidence beyond the action of the governor and yet you see the throngs of media out there outside of a radio station is unreal. i cannot believe that there has been zero attention paid to any of the scandals in d.c. that democrats are involved in to a fraction of what has happened

here. and as a guy who spent all of his time attacking republicans and can't find a motive and this is the media. >> it is live what you are seeing on the screen. the governor of new jersey taking questions talking about the super bowl. the second he starts talking about this issue which is of utmost importance to his candida candidacy. >> the governor's office is involved. there is an e-mail from bridgett kelly, deputy chief of staff that said let's close these lanes and cause traffic. that's not a rational government action. and she did something wrong. and his staff did something wrong. >> we are going to listen to the governor talking about david wildstein. >> your office put out a pretty strong response to the letter. >> yeah. >> what in particular do you dispute in wildstein's account

at this point? >> well, listen. let's make one thing clear right off the bat which i think is the most important issue. and most important issue is, did i know anything about the plan to close these lanes? did i authorize it? did i know about it? did i approve it or have knowledge of it beforehand? the answer is still no. in fact, no one has ever accused me of that. that is the thing people of new jersey care about the most. now, when did i first know about the lane closures? the fact is that the first time this came into my consciousness as an issue was when the executive director of the port authority's e-mail about the incident was leaked to the meade dw media and reported on.

>> who brought that to your attention? >> news accounts. >> you read them personally? >> i read it in the "wall street journal." and it was that day, then, when i read that that pat was saying i didn't know about this. it wasn't cleared through me, whatever else it said in the e-mail. that is when i asked my chief of staff and chief counsel would you look into this and see what is going on here. now, if prior to that -- i know prior to that there were press accounts about traffic issues. and if i either read that or someone said something to me about traffic issues up there it wouldn't have been meaningfulal to me because i didn't know there was a problem up there because i didn't know we had actually closed lanes before that. so my dispute is two fold. first, to make clear to everybody in the midst of all of the things that were reported

over the weekend, that nobody has said that i knew anything about this before it happened. and i think that is the most important question. secondly, that when this first became an issue for me -- because let's face it, there is traffic every day at the george washington bridge, lincoln tunnel. i hear reports on the radio. we all hear about them. that is not something that rises to the gubernatorial level. when this first became clear to me that this was a potential issue was when the e-mail was put out. there were press accounts before whether i read any of those. if i did or heard anything from anybody about traffic it would not have been meaningful to me. now we are looking at it in the prism of everything we know since january 8. back then this was not a major issue. it became one to me in terms of finding out what was going on.

>> today is the day subpoenas were due to be answered in the legislative investigation. we know some were granted extensions. have you seen documentation gathered to this point? >> i have not. the governor's office has started to produce things today. ewe started to produce documents today. we are working as hard as we can to get through. there was a lot of stuff asked for from us. i have not seen any documents. >> are you curious to know what is in some of those documents? >> here is what i'm curious -- we hired a law firm to come in and do the internal investigation. they are working hard and diligently. i can't wait for them to be

finished so i can get the full story. >> this is the internal investigation of your staff to determine who may have known what. >> right. and to get into the situation. we are going to try to get as much information as we can by interviewing folks and reviewing documents. >> the unequivocal denial continues. you are the one who asked for the subpoenas. are they giving you everything you need and most important he says allt that matters was did he know before. >> is that all that matters? >> first of all the documents are due today. they are starting to come in. our office was closed by mid day. we don't know the total quantity of the responses. we will start reviewing the documents. it is not just simply a binary question of whether he knew before or not. it is clear somebody in his office with a high position, deputy chief of staff ordered the lanes closed and tried to cover it up and a lot of people were involved in it. it was more than did he know before the lane closures.

>> to be clear obviously we know there was wrong doing on the part of the deputy chief of staff. investigation is about the search for the truth. the real question and the reason there is a partisan feeding frenzy is because chris christie had been the front runner for some polls. the key question for the investigation is what he knew and when he knew it. we know already that there was absolute wrong doing on the part of individuals in the christie administration and that affected people dramatically and negatively. the big focus is what the governor knew. >> the real focus is not only what the governor knew and who else in his staff knew. clearly there is something wrong where take the governor at his word that he has no idea about this. his staff orders lanes closed at the george washington bridge. they closed down fort lee for four days. >> let me ask you this because the reason this does matter is because of 2016.

you look at what has happened because of the scandal to chris christie on a national level. in december that was pretty much a dead tie. 46-48% with the win going to chris christie. now 53% to 39% in favor of hillary clinton. that is an incredible swing. part of the problem isn't just whether he lied which as was said would be game over for the governor. it is the perception of the inner circle to think it is okay to do these things. can he get over the perception? >> absolutely. first of all, you have two noncandidates that they are testing. things go up and down. here is what i truly believe. i'm not here as a chris christie supporter and rnc is neutral in the 2016 race and he has not announced. that being said i think there is a sharp contrast should those two be the nominees. you have hillary clinton who had several scandals where she did her one song and dance and then

we have gotten no further. she wouldn't get interviewed for the review board. chris christie who is out there taking more and more questions from the general public who stood for 119 minutes taking questions that the national and new jersey media could. it is basically a huge contrast in the type of leaders that they are. secondly, i think what you have seen from chris christie is that when the problems occurred and every administration, every organization is going to face some kind of problem or hurdle, hour a leader deals with them is important. what christie has done in terms of addressing the problem, firing people and taking corrective action goes to speak to the kind of leader he would be. >> i am going to hit pause here. the breaking news that the governor is starting to answer the question. we will see as he continues this. we are watching live coverage of that and talking about the latest toxicology report that we have with philip seymour hoffman. new details of what was found in

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. you are looking at a live picture of governor chris christie who had been the republican front runner for 2016 nomination. he has been doing a question and answer and going to be taking call ins. he has denied knowing anything before the closing of the lanes of the george washington bridge. it has come to light that later

members of his staff orders it for political retribution. we have with us the democratic new jersey assemblyman leading the investigation into the lane closures. sean spicer, communications director for the republican national committee and john avilan all still with me. he talked about the media game which i think you referred to. i want to play what the governor said a moment ago. >> here is the thing i find so interesting. what is going on now is just a game of got you. when did i first learn about this or that? the fact of the matter is i have been very clear about this. before these lanes were closed i knew nothing about it. i didn't plan it. i didn't authorize it. i didn't approve it. i knew nothing about it. >> let me ask you a question on this because you are talking

about the media pile on and that hasn't happened to democrats. do you think it is unwarranted that the questions are being asked? >> no. but they have been asked and answered. i guess my issue is this. if there was a changing story or the governor saying let me explain what i meant. he has been unequivocal since day one as to what he knew and when he knew it and how he knew it. the assemblyman has basically said the same that there has been no evidence to contradict what the governor has said. we have a story that has not changed and responses that have not changed. yet the media frenzy continues. the "new york times" made up news to go after him. that was nuts. i think that that literally made the enquirer look like a solid

reputable newspaper. >> sean is referring to an original headline which said christie knew about the closings. the public editor has come out and said the change was more than a nuance and the "new york times" made a mistake. still there is the allegation that there is evidence. when you look at the polls the public believes there could be. >> politics is perception. chris christie is suffering from a thousand cuts and that headline was misleading. he wants to get his legal fees paid for. there are a lot of questions. the larger issue in front of them is there is a war on presidential candidates. it is about attacking hillary clinton. >> not hurt hillary clinton. when you look at the polls we showed. >> because she is such a known figure by comparison.

a lot of them are baked in that cake. >> you the man leading the charge here leading the investigation you have been looking into this. you said by your own admission. when are you going to say i'm done. i'm going to move on? >> i can't tell you that. we don't have all the answers to the questions. let's deal with the statement made that the governor's story has been consistent. he started out by mocking the legislature for looking into this. he called senator weinberg and myself obsessed with this. his statements about what he knew has progressed from where he started to today where he is saying what he is saying. all we are saying is this. there are e-mails and documents and information that either bridget kelly or other people in his office have. we want to look at it. >> at the least don't you think he is smart enough to not have made the cone joke if he had a little teeny bit of fear that

there might be proof? >> i can't get into what he is thinking. all i know is this is that it was strenuously denied that there was any involvement and now the governor's office is involved through bridget kelly and perhaps others. we need to get answers. this is an abuse of power that should not be allowed. >> how long do you think the public stays so passionate about the issue? >> it becomes an issue of how expedited the investigation is. they distract from the process and they hype it up and pour fuel on the fire. some folks are cheer leading for them. >> let me just ask you. completely honestly you have to admit you are shocked by the dramatic change in the polls. >> again, yeah, i am in a way but i'm also not. if you took a pounding every day that governor christie has or

any candidate on our side where you are waking up and every national and state publication is coming after you i don't think you -- in some ways i'm not that surprised that if somebody hit you that hard every day that it wouldn't do a little damage to your poll numbers. i pleev once he is vindicated in terms of this investigation proves he was telling the truth and he didn't know what he knew then people say he was telling the truth. >> thanks very much to all of you. we will see what will happen as john's investigation continues. we watch the polls. the dow taking a huge dive in recent days. the shocking death of philip seymour hoffman. we have that report today. [ male announcer ] you've never watched her like this before...

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new details tonight in the tragic death of philip seymour hoffman, the actorer known for starring roles in "capote" was found dead in his apartment yesterday from a suspected drug overdose. according to sources familiar with the investigation police found close to 50 envelopes of what was believed to be heroin and several bottles of prescription drugs. investigators are piercing

together the final moments of his life. on saturday around 2:00 in the afternoon hoffman's ex-partner told investigations she last saw him near his apartment and he seemed high. around 8:00 p.m. she said she spoke to him on the phone and he sounded high. yesterday at 9:00 a.m. hoffman was supposed to pick up his kids but he never showed up. a friend went to his apartment after getting a call from o'donnell. hoffman was declared dead found with a needle in his arm. we have been talking about the growing heroin problem for weeks. you don't have to look far for the headlines. every day more people are dying across the country from heroin. in just a few minutes we will talk about the crisis with eric roberts, a friend and colleague with hoffman who was also addicted to heroin.

first, ted has this report. >> he can do anything. >> reporter: gabby started doing heroin when she was 15. >> i started snorting it. on my 16th birthday they injected me for the first time. when i dpaut the instant rush i thought i am never going back to snorting. >> reporter: she lives just outside the chicago suburb where nearly 20 high school age children have died from heroin overdoses in just the past six years. teenagers in predominantly white upper middle class suburban areas are many times the perfect customers for heroin dealers. >> their parents hand them money. don't ask what you are doing. they do whatever they want. >> reporter: john casina overdosed in his bedroom. his mother was only 20 feet away and found him dead the next morning. >> it's the affluent areas where

they have targeted and marketed to our children. >> reporter: nationwide heroin use has nearly doubled in the last ten years according to the national survey of drug use and health. it is more common in many high schools across the country. while philip seymour hoffman's death has brought the problem front and center. when young people die it is often kept quiet to avoid embarrassment to a family. >> it is sad that it does take the death of somebody famous whether it is mr. hoffman or cory monteith. but it does illustrate clearly that this is a disease that knows no boundaries. >> reporter: after john's death his mom started open hearts, open eyes, a facebook based forum for children and parents dealing with heroin addiction. she is also trying to push for kits which reverse the effects of an overdose to be made more

widely available. she is motivated to keep kids alive because she misses her son terribly. >> every moment of every day. >> felt like no one can stop me. >> reporter: gabby has been clean almost three years. eshe spent two years in prison for heroin possession. those two years she says saved her life. some of her old friends, however, are still using heroin. she worries they may not be as lucky. >> our thanks to ted. stories like that one and philip seymour hoffman's death bringing attention to an alarming trend we have been talking about. great to have you with us. let me start with you. there are reports that hoffman's partner, they had three children toorlth, had kicked him out the apartment because he was using heroin again. you are a former addict. can you give us a sense of what he was going through in those last few days of his life especially given the statistics we hear about how many bags of

heroin were found in his apartment? >> i am a former addict. i was never a former heroin addict. i have done everything else but pretty much. i have done heroin a couple of times. he was obviously celebrating and/or very depressed and stocking up on a drug of choice. he was using. and he obviously was not content with himself. i have to say excuse me for not being shaved. i'm making a movie where i am playing an addict. that is why i look the part today. excuse me. >> i wouldn't have noticed. it looks just fine. let me ask you because hoffman battled addiction for many years and struggled with it. let me play him back in 2006 when he did an interview on 60 minutes about going sober. here is philip seymour hoffman.

>> so this was drugs or alcohol or both? >> it was all of that stuff, yeah. anything i can get my hands on [ laughter ] yeah, yeah i liked it all. >> why did you decide to stop? >> you get panicked. you get panicked. i was 22 and i got panicked for my life. >> he was reportedly clean for many years and had these relapses. how easy is it to have a relapse with heroin? can you go down so quickly as he did or is that unusual? >> first of all, let me point out that relapses are pretty common for people who have gone to treatment in general. one of the things we are seeing with heroin is the huge risk for something like at overdose during relapse. heroin as was pointed out in the previous segment has a massive ability for people to develop

tolerance to the drug. one sad thing is we see people like cory monteith, like mr. hoffman who get out of treatment after a short period of time of staying sober, maybe after battling the addiction and winning for a long period of time. while their tolerance is low they go back to using. what ends up happening is they overdose because their bodies are not used to the same quantities of the drug. >> there are a lot of different options out there. it is also my understanding it is cheaper than other options, too, for a lot of people to try to use heroin now. >> it is. as your story pointed out it has to do more with young people who are struggling with these drugs. they normally come in through the prescription route no doubt. getting heroin on the streets it is different forms. it is cheaper, sometimes easier to get and pretty difficult to

get oxycontin on the street. they move on to heroin. we see a lot of afffluent children, kids, 17, 16, 18 years old who get into prescription medication first and find heroin is a cheaper option for them. >> were you surprised when you read this? or was this when you read this you worked with him at one point and it flashes in front of your eyes that this is how this kind of thing would happen. your wife or partner says move out and things just fall apart. >> well, he and i got to know each other when i wrote him an ee-mail after he had done a performance called "owning mahoney" where he played an addict. i wrote him a note about how totally [ inaudible ] he was. he wrote me back and we started to be e-mail pals.

that's what we were basically. we talked probably a couple of times a week on e-mail. we were friendly acquaintances. >> we appreciate you taking the time. sometimes easy to focus on someone's personal problems instead of the professional successes. kw wanted to end the discussion by remembering philip seymour hoffman's amazing career. you have all seen one of his movies and probably been in awe. here he is. >> any subject in the world don't worry whether it will interest me or not, just talk. so i won't break down. >> i am a doctor and physicist, theoretical philosopher. above all, i am a man.

>> great art is about guilt and longing and love disguised as sex and sex disguised as love. >> i know this sounds silly and i know i might sound ridiculous where the guy is trying to get ahold of the long lost son. this is that scene. i think they have those scenes in movies because they are true. we cannot sum up a man's life with a bunch of numbers on a computer screen. >> you have never done anything wrong. >> shutup! shutup! shut, shut, shutup! >> about to have some fun. >> we are watching some of those again.

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we have more breaking news. the dow down 326 points, a huge plunge in one day. so far this year the dow down 1,200 points affecting every 401 k and pension in the united states. the markets have hit all-time highs. that is the context. we come back from the horrible low from the financial crisis. 1,200 points in just a few weeks, is this the beginning of something bigger? >> i don't think so. you have known me for a long time. it is normalt that it does this. i hope people don't start panicking and selling 401 ks and go to cash. year to date we have about 7% on the dow. we might fall more maybe down to

14,500. don't panic over that. we hit highs. in 2014 it will be a pretty good year i think. >> some people say if the market is down in january or up in january that is how the whole year is going to go. we had a terrible january. do you think the year still could be a good year? what is there to make you optimistict that this is a temporary pullback and a bigger step forward? >> a great question. until the january is 100% right i will never comment on that. and then we have great company profits. we have good housing numbers. we have consumers are spending money. banks are strong. real estate is doing well. we have all of these positive things and normal for the market to happen. when i look back at 2007 the highest quarter they had for earnings and the s&p was like $24 a share. third quarter of 2013 like nearly $27 a share.

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[ alert rings ] according to a new jersey paper, one of the people at the center of the chris christie bridge scandal is pleading the fifth. the governor has been taking live questions this hour, you heard all of that breaking news here. chris, what have you learned about this pleading the fifth? >> reporter: i'll tell you this is the second top official involved in bridge gate to plead the fifth. bob steppian has done the same thing. bridgette ann kelly, who wrote

the e-mail has also pleaded the fifth. that's -- the governor was just asked about this on the radio show, and he said, quote -- we're going to let you listen to it. >> it doesn't tell me anything. i know everything i needed to know from a point of employment from bridgette kelly when she didn't tell me the truth, and i fired her. all of these people have lawyers now, i hope they would share information with us, but i also understand people have rights. >> you hear the governor saying that -- >> there's a little bit of a delay, i wanted to ask you, how significant do you think this is? >> well, i think it's very significant. i think it raises questions about whether or not they can plead the fifth in subpoenas, that's going to be something that i think the co chairman of the legislative committee are going to take a look at, and the

other thing i wanted to mention that was new tonight is that the governor said the u.s. attorney's criminal investigation is something that he has cooperated with, his office has been subpoenaed, and that is a new development as well. we knew his re-election campaign had been subpoenaed by the u.s. attorney. now we're learning his office has as well. he'll fully cooperate with that investigation. so a couple of big news items coming out of this interview today. >> thank you very much. some significant news coming out of there. you can see the governor talking about the issue. still to come, football and fur. jeanne moos is next. [ male announcer ] she won't remember this,

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the super bowl may have been a blowout, but it was still the most watched blowout in history. a record 111 million tuned in to see the seattle seahawks stomp down the denver broncos. that wasn't the only game begging for your attention. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: quick, name the mvp of the puppy bowl. >> he breaks for the sideline, crosses the 40, the 30, the 20. >> reporter: touchdown, actually he scored four touchdowns, but

who's counting? not the pups. actually, the 66 pups reminded us of the denver broncos. >> it's a fumble. >> except for when the dogs scored. >> and he's in. touchdown. >> even the broncos did just plop down in the end zone and quit. animal planet's puppy bowl was just one of the other bowl games. it was hallmark's kitten bowl. their kitties had names like tom cat brady and feline manning, and we can't forget the fishbowl. four hours of watching a goldfish mope around a bowl, joined occasionally by a guest fish on nat geo wild. it was the puppy bowl that most mirrored the big game, puppy bowl even featured a little trash talking. >> kind of aggressive behavior could get her ejected. >> that's holding.

>> instead of bruno mars, the half time show featured the keyboard cat. the cat was actually playing a bruno mars song. bruno's impressive footwork put the pups to shame, when one kicked the ball over the goal line. >> field goal. all of the dogs come from shelters, and all but two have been adopted. >> is lorn on his way to becoming the most valuable pup? he scores again. >> congratulations, you're a puppy bowl mvp. >> how did joe namath get mixed up in the puppy bowl? it was the fur he wore to the super bowl coin toss. broadway joe was compared to ron burgundy. he was compared to the ikea monkey. one of the more often repeated tweets was joe namath's coat is

made from the losers of the puppy bowl. talk about a personal foul. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> you have to wonder whether the fur was real or not. the highlight of the night. it may have been more interesting to watch the goldfish than the denver broncos performance. i was watching. thanks for joining us. anderson begins now. chris christie talks publicly about the new jersey traffic scandal for the first time since new allegations surfaced, suggesting he knew about the lane closures when they happened. the search is over for convicted murderer who escaped from a michigan prison and abducted a woman. terrifying story, she told a 911 operator while she was locked in the gas station bathroom with the escaped convict banging on the door. we begin tonight with a tragic accident involving phillip seymo seymour-hoffman. law enforcement