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"outfront" tonight, breaking news, breaking his silence, chris christie answering questions about the bridge scandal on the heels of new allegations. he is arriving to take those questions. what did he know and when did he know it? the stocks tank. are we going into a downward spiral? and new details surrounding the death of philip seymour
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hoffman. what investigators found in his apartment? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight we begin with the big breaking news, chris christie answering questions. the new jersey governor seconds away from sitting down. he's going to be taking questions on the bridge scandal that is threatening to take down his meteoric career. he will be answering those questions in the "ask the governor" program. this is the first time we have heard from the new jersey governor since his two-hour news conference last month where he denied having anything to do with closing down the lanes on the george washington bridge for political retribution. his comments are pivotal. there are allegations that he knew before he admitted knowing.
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chris frates begins our coverage tonight. so many cameras there. what is at stake tonight? >> reporter: this is the first time we are going to hear from the governor. this is a call in show that he does every month. but it will have national implications, whatever he says. and it comes the same day where subpoenas were due for members of his team were investigators. it will be interesting to hear how that plays nationally and what questions will be asked. it's important for folks to know that the new jersey democrats have asked their members to call in. they say you have a question for chris christie and you want to put it to him, now is your opportunity. it will be interesting to see if we are getting tough questions from the other side of the aisle
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for the next hour. >> i think it's important, the governor had to declare a state of emergency today in new jersey for snow. he had an out if he wanted to get out of this. everyone was sent home at noon today, but he didn't take it which is code i think for he's going to come out swinging. >> i think that's right. he could have said the roads are too bad, let's bag it. but this is a way for him to show him doing something he normally does. this is part of his routine. he can say this is part of what being the governor is. i'm going to answer your questions without causing a national media circus. he can do it in a controlled setting in a way that says i'm doing business as usual but it's it has much more implications and he knows that. >> thanks very much, chris frates. we are also -- this is going to be on camera even though it is a radio show. we will bring the governor to
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you. we know when he sits in that chair. that's the room he will be. we anticipate the news director who will be conducting an interview ahead of time. we may get a direct and fiery question and answer before the questions begin. but in the meantime i want to bring in the democratic new jersey assemblyman leading a state investigation into the lane closures of the squlorge washington bridge. shawn spicer, the communications director for the republican national committee. thank you for being with us. john, let me start with you, you have read the letter, obviously, where the former head of the port authority says he has evidence showing that the governor knew about the lane closures during the time they were happening. you have been looking into this since october, october 2nd, i believe. he's entering the room. i will let you start.
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i'll have to cut you off if he starts answering questions. do you see a smoking gun here? >> not yet. it's important to look at the words used in the letter. mr. wildstein's attorney wrote the letter. it says his client is aware of information that would contradict the governor. we don't know if it is a document or a conversation or somebody he knows who has material. i think we need to see exactly what this information is before we make any judgments that it contradicts the governor. the attorney will not have written the letter without abe sis to know his client has something to say. >> david wildstein has come out aggressively. he has not spoken about it yet. but he said -- let me play the sound bite of what he said about david wildstein once more. here it is. >> i was actually the guy out
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there. i was in overalls and a hat. i was working the cones out there. you are not serious with that question. i don't get involved in traffic studies. so what i can tell you is if people find that hard to believe i don't know what else to say except to tell them i had no knowledge of this, the planning, the execution or anything about it and i first found out about it after it was over. >> and i want to get to the david wildstein question. but let me ask you about that first. he has said again and again and again if it turns out there is a smoking gun and john doesn't see one. if there is, is he done? >> absolutely. he has put his credibility on the line. he knows the implications of this. and he is a savvy politician. if he is lying, he's done. >> and he is taking a huge hit in the polls for this. republican choice for nominee
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back in the day. chris christie was number one. now you can see mike huckabee is number one with 14%. what does this say to you? if you don't like christie, you must be terrified. >> that's a bit of a stretch. mike huckabee did very well last time. he was an amazing governor. he wasn't in the poll the last time you did it. anyone would take a hit if you had the media pile on that we have seen over this event. in fact i think the "new york times" what they did last weekend was reprehensible. it is -- it's up there with tabloid media. but the motion that this quote/unquote scandal that the assemblyman admits there is no smoking gun or action beyond ha the governor has taken and you see the throngs of media outside of a radio station is unreal.
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i cannot believe that there has been zero attention paid to any of the scandals in d.c. that democrats have been involved in to a fraction of what happened here. and the assemblyman himself, a state party chairman a guy who spends all his time attacking republicans can't find a motive and this is the circus that is created because it is a republican. >> the governor of new jersey taking questions right now. talking about the super bowl. the second he talks about this issue that is of utmost important for his candidacy we'll go to him live. >> the governor's office is involved. there is no doubt about that. there is an e-mail from bridgette kennedy that says let's close these lanes and close traffic in ft. lee. that is not a rational government action and she did something wrong. >> let's listen to the governor
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talki talking about david wildstein. >> your office put out a pretty strong response to the letter. >> yep. >> what do you dispute in wildstein's account at this point? >> well, erik, listen, let's make one thing clear right off the bat which i think is the most important issue. and the most important issue is, did i know anything about the plan to close these lanes? did i authorize it? did i know about it? did away prove it? did i have any knowledge of it beforehand? and the answer is still the same, it's unequivocally no and no one has ever accused me of that. and that's the thing that i think the people of new jersey care about the most. when did i first know about the lane closures. the fact that the fist time this came into my consciousness as an
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issue was when the executive director of the port authority's e-mail was leaked to the media and reported on. and that was the first time i got a sense there might be an issue here. >> who brought that to your attention? >> it was news accounts. >> you read them personally -- >> i read it. i read it in the "wall street journal." it was that day that pat foye was saying this wasn't -- i didn't know about this. it wasn't cleared through me. whatever else he said in that e-mail. that's when i asked my chief of staff and chief council i said will you look into this and see what is going on here? now if prior to that -- i knew there were press accounts about traffic issues up there and if i either read that or someone said something about traffic issues up there it wouldn't have been meaningful to me. i didn't know there was any
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problem up there. i didn't know we had closed lanes up there behave that. my dispute is twofold. first to make clear to everybody in the midst of all the things that were reported over the weekend that nobody has said that i knew anything about this before it happened. and i think that's the most important question. secondly, that when this first an issue to me, let's face it, erik, there is terrific every day at the george washington bridge at the lincoln tunnel and the holland tunnel. i hear the reports on the radio. we all hear about them. that's not something that rises to the gubernatorial level, when this first became clear to me that this is an issue is when the -- came out. there were press accounts before. if i read or heard anything about traffic, it would not have been meaningful to me. now we are looking at it in the
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prism of everything we know since january 8th. back then, this was not a maritimajor issue. it became one when the foye e-mail came out. >> today was the day that the subpoenas were due to be answered. some served were granted some extensions. have you seen any of the documentation gathered to this point? >> i have not. the governor's office has started to produce things today. we did not ask for an extension. we are doing it on a rolling basis. we are working as hard as we can to get through. we did not ask for an extension. we have started to produce things to the legislature. but i have not seen anything produced by anybody else. >> are you curious to know what is in some of those documents? >> here's what i'm curious about, erik, what i'm curious about is what happened here. and that's why i authorized an
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internal investigation as i talked about on january 9th. we hired a law firm to come in and do that internal investigation. they are working really hard. they are working diligently. i can't wait for them to be finished so i can get the full story here. >> this is the internal investigation of your staff to determine who may have known -- >> right. >> -- what? >> and to get into the situation. we are going to try to get as much information as we can by interviewing folks -- >> the denial continues. john, he responded to you. you asked for those subpoenas. are they giving you everything you need? and he said all that matters is did he know before? is that all that matters? >> i'm not sure that is all that matters. the documents are due today. they are starting to come in. the office was closed today. they will be shared with the committee tomorrow and we'll start reviewing those documents. but it's not a binary question of whether he knew before or
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not. it is clear somebody in his office with a high position, the deputy chief of staff ordered the lanes closed and tried to cover it up. a lot of people were involved in it. it's more than did he know before the lane closures. >> but to be clear we know there was wrong doing on the deputy chief of staff. >> that's a fact. >> but the real question and the reason there is a partisan feeding frenzy around this is front runner for the 2016 e - nomination and the key question for the investigation is what did he know and when did he know it? we know already there was absolute wrong doing on the part of individuals in the christie administration and it affected people in new jersey dramatically and negatively. but the focus is what did the governor know, correct? >> the real focus is not only what the governor knew but who else in his staff knew. clearly there is something wrong -- take the governor at
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his word he has no idea about. this his staff closed down ft. lee for four days. let's pretty serious. >> shawn, let me ask you this, though, the reason this does matter is because of 2016. you look at what happened because of this scandal to chris christie. chris christie versus hillary clinton that was a dead tie with the win going to chris christie. now 55 to 39 in favor of hillary clinton. obviously time can change that dramatically. but part of the problem is not just whether he lied which would be the game over for the governor. it's the perception of an inner circle that would think it is okay to do these things. can he get over that perception? >> you have two non-candidates that they are testing. things go up and down. here's what i believe. i'm not here as a chris christie
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supporter. that being said there is a sharp contrast should those be the two nominees. hillary clinton who had several scandals, including benghazi where she did a song and dance and she wouldn't be interviewed for the review board and chris christie who is take questions from the general public and stood there for 119 minutes of questions from the media. if that comes up, i would welcome that. secondly, what you have seen from chris christie is when the problems occurred and every organization will face a problem or hurdle. how a leader deals with them is important. and what christie has done, addressing the problem and firing and taking action speaks to what kind of a leader he will be. >> we will be staying with it. the breaking news that the governor is starting to answer
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this question. we will see as he continues this. we are watching live coverage of. that and we will talk about the toxicology report of philip seymour hoffman and details about what was found in his apartment. and a convicted killer escaped from prison taking a woman hostage. we have the 911 call as the hostage tries to escape. all that "outfront." we'll be back. every day of the week.
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♪ continue our breaking coverage. this is a live picture of governor chris christie who had been the republican front-runner for 2016 nomination answering questions live in new jersey. he is doing a question and answer with the host.
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he has unequivocally denied knowing anything before the closing of the lanes on the george washington bridge. it has become clear that members of his staff have ordered that for political reasons. i want to play what happened with john wisniewski, the gentleman who requested all the subpoenas coming in. sean spicer and john avlon are all still with me. you see the governor talking live. during the commercial break he talked about the media gotcha game. >> here's the thing i find so interesting. what's going on now with all this other stuff is a game of gotcha. when did i first learn of this or that? the fact of the matter is i've been clear about this.
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before these lanes were closed i knew nothing about it. i didn't plan it. i didn't authorize it. i didn't approve it. i knew nothing about it. >> sean let me ask you about this. you are talk about the media pile on and that hasn't happened to democrats. do you think it's unwarranted these questions are being asked? >> no. but they have been asked and they have been answered. my issue is this if there was a changing story and the governor was saying let me explain what i meant but it's he has been unequivocal since day one. and nothing has changed. and the assemblyman has basically said the same. he said there has not been any evidence or anything to contradict anything the governor has said since day one. we have a story that has not changed at all and responses that have not changed. and yet the media frenzy continues, not just continues, but the "new york times" made up
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news to go after him. that was nuts. that made the "enquirer" look like a news magazine. >> i want to emphasize the public editor for the "new york times" has come out and said they made a mistake. there is an allegation that there is evidence. and the public believes there could be. >> politics is perception. and christie is suffering from a thousand cuts. and mr. wildstein wants his legal fees paid for. there are a lot of questions. but the larger issue is there is a pre-emptive war on potential candidates. that's why democrats and you know -- >> but benghazi has not hurt
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hillary clint wh hillary clinton. >> she is such a known figure by comparison. a lot of negatives are baked in that cake. >> you are the man leading the charge, asking for the subpoenas leading the investigation and looking into this. you have said by your own admission you done have a smoking gun. when are you going to say i'm going the move on? >> i can't tell you that. we don't have all the answers to the questions. first of all let's deal with the statement that the governor has been consistent. he first mocked the legislature for looking into this. he called senator weinberg and myself as obsessed and made the joke that he moved the cones himself. his statements about what he knew has progressed from where he started to today. all we are saying there are e-mails and documents and information that bridgette kelly and others in his office have
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and we ought to look at it. >> he should not have made the cone joke if he had a teeny bit of fear there might be proof? >> i can't get into what he's thinking. all i know is it was strenuously denied there was involvement and now the governor's office is involved. we need to get answers. this is an abuse of power that should not be allowed. and we need to know how it could happen. >> how long the you think the public stays passionate about this issue. >> it becomes an issue of how expedited this issue is. and that's why the headlines are destructive. they hype it up and put fuel on the fire. some folks are cheerleading for that. >> sean, let me ask you, honestly, you is to admit you're shocked by the dramatic change
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in the polls, aren't you? >> well, again, yeah, i am in a way. but i'm also not. if you took a pounding every day that governor christie has and every national and state publication is coming after you, i don't think you'd be -- in some ways i'm not that surprised if someone hit you that hard every day it wouldn't do damage to your poll numbers. but once he is vindicated in terms of this -- this investigation proves he was exactly telling the truth, he didn't know what he didn't know. and that's as far as it went then people will rebound and say he was telling the truth. >> thanks very much to all of you. we will see what happens as john's investigation continues. and we watch the polls. breaking news on the dow taking a dive, down more than 300 points and a thousand in recent days.
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new details tonight in the tragic death of actor philip seymour hoffman known for starring rolls in "capote," "doubt" and "boogie nights" was found dead in his apartment suspected of a dug overdose. the detectives found 50
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envelopes believed to be heroin, more than 20 used syringes and several bottles of prescription drugs. investigators are piecing together the final moments of his life. on saturday at 2:00 in the afternoon, hoffman's ex-partner told investigators she last saw him near his apartment and he seemed high. at 8:00 p.m. mimi said she spoke to him on the phone and he sounded high. at 11:00 in the morning, a friend went to his apartment after getting a call from o'donnell at 11:30 a.m. he was declared dead and found with a needle in his arm. we have been talking about the growing heroin crisis on this show. you don't have to look far from the headlines, every day people are dying across the country from heroin. in just a few minutes, we're going to talk about this with
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erik roberts, a friend and colleague of hoffman's. but first, ted rolens has this report. >> reporter: gabby started doing heroin when she was 15. >> i started snorting it and on my 16th birthday they injected me for the first time. >> reporter: lives just outside chicago where -- died from heroin overdoses in six years. teenagers in white upper middle class suburban areas are often times the perfect customers. >> the parents hand them this money and don't ask what are you going to the. they do whatever they want. >> reporter: john overdosed in his bedroom. his mother 20 feet away and found him dead the next morning.
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>> it's the affluent areas where they have targeted and marketed to our children. >> reporter: nationwide heroin use has nearly doubled in the last ten years. what was once considered a rare hard-core drug is now more common in many high schools across the country. while philip seymour hoffman's death has brought this front and scene when young people like john die it is kept quiet to acrude embarrassment to the family. >> it's sad that it takes the death of someone famous like mr. hoffman or cory monteith, this is a disease that knows no boundaries. >> reporter: after john's death, john's mom is trying to push for kits to reverse the affects of an overdose to be more readily
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available. she misses her son terribly. >> every day. every moment of dave. >> felt like no one could stop me. like i can do anything. >> reporter: gabby has been clean almost three years. she spent two years in prison for heroine possession. some of her friends are still using heroin and they may not be as lucky. ted rollins, cnn, naperville, illinois. >> it's stories like that one and philip seymour hoffman's death bringing attention to this problem that we have been talking about. erik, there are reports that hoffman's partner kicked him out of the apartment because he was back using heroin again. he was in rehab as recently as april of last year. can you give us a sense of what he was going through in the last few days of his life especially
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given the statistics we hear. >> i don't know what he was going through. but he was obviously celebrating and/or very depressed and he was stocking up on his drug of choice and he was using. he was obviously not content with himself. i have to also say excuse me for not being shaved. i'm making a movie where i'm iconically enough playing an addict. that's why i look the part today. >> it looks just fine. but doctor, let me talk to you. here is philip seymour hoffman talking about getting clean. >> drugs, alcohol or both? >> all that stuff. anything i can get my hands on.
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yeah, yeah, i liked it all. >> and why did you decide to stop? >> you get panicked. you get panicked. it was -- i was 22 and i got panicked for my life. >> he was reportedly clean for many years and had had these relapses. how easy is it to have a relapse with heroin. can you go down so quickly as he did or is that unusual? >> sure, well, first of all, let me point out that relapse are common for people who have gone to treatment in general. but one of the things we are seeing with heroin is the huge risk for something like overdose for things like heroin. one of the ironic and sad thing is we see people like cory monteith and mr. hoffman who get out of treatment after a short period of time of staying sober
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and maybe battling the addiction and winning for a long period of time. while their tolerance is low they go back to using and overdose. their body is not used to the same quantities of the drugs. >> there are a lot of options out there. and it's a lot cheaper than other option too to use heroin now? >> is it. as your story pointed out. the past stories you have done. it has to do with young people who are struggling with these drugs. they normally come in through the prescription route, no doubt. but these -- getting heroin on the street out here, it's tar heroin. in new york it's china white and the pure kind of forms. but what ends up happening is it's cheaper and sometimes easier to get. it's difficult to get oxycontin on the street and more expensive. they move on to heroin. affluent children, kids, 16, 17, 18 years old who get into the
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prescription medication first and find the heroin is cheaper for them. >> and eric, were you surprised by this? you read this and worked with him at one point. it flashes in front of your eyes that this is how this kind of thing would happen. your wife or partner says moves out until you get together and things just fall apart. >> well, he and i got to know each other when i wrote him an e-mail after he had done a performance for a thing called "owning mahowning" where he plays an addict in an unregulated place to work and i wrote him about how brilliant he was. and we started to be e-mail pals. that's what we were, basically. we talked probably two or three times a week on e-mail. and we were just friendly acquaintances.
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>> thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate your taking the time. it's sometimes easy to focus on someone's personal problems especially in a story like this instead of their successes. but i want to remember his amazing career. you have all seen one of his movies and been in awe. here he is. >> talk about anything, you know. i mean any subject in the world. don't worry whether it will interest me or not. just talk. so i won't break down. >> i am a write, a doctor, a nuclear physicist, a philosopher. but above all, i am a man. >> great art is about guilt and longing and, you know, love
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disguised as sex and sex disguised as love. >> i know i might seem ridiculous. but this is that scene. this is that scene and i think they have those scenes in movies because they're true. >> we cannot sum up a man's life with a burge of numbers on a computer screen. >> have you never done anything wrong? >> shut up! shut up! shut, shut, shut, shut up! >> like to have some fun, fun, fun! >> it's sad he won't be making more. hoffman leaves blind his long time partner and three children. he was 46 years old. still to come, the dow
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tanking more than 1,000 plus for the year. and an update on the search for a convicted killer who escaped from prison and took a woman hostage. we'll be back.
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we are more breaking news, a huge freeful an wall street.
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the dow down 326 points. companies like microsoft and ge fell three percentage points. the dow down 1,200 points, affecting every 401 k and pension in the united states. brent, the market had hat hit an all time high. we come back from that horrible low from the financial crisis. but 1,200 points in just a few weeks. is this the beginning of something bigger? >> i don't think so. you know me for a long time. it's normal it does this. i hope that people don't start panicking and go to cash. that is the wrong thing to do. we have to look year to date we are down 7% on the dow. but we might fall more. but, please, don't panic over there. we hit these highs. it doesn't keep happening.
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2014 will be a good year. >> if the market is down in january or up in january, that's how the whole year's going to go. that's the adage. we had a terrible january. do you think that the year still could be a good year? what is there to make you optimistic this is a temporary pull back and a bigger step forward? >> until that january affect is right i will never count on that. you don't know what the data was that caused it to go up or down. we have great company profits and good housing numbers. consumers are spending money. banks are strong. real estate is doing well. we have all these positive things. and when i look back at 2007, the highest quarter they had for earnings in the s & p was $2500 a share. third quarter of 2013 it was $2700 a share. the companies are worth more. 30% of the assets are in cash. they're so strong.
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breaking news. according to a new jersey paper, "the record" one of the people at the center of the chris christie bridge scandal is taking the fifth. the governor is answering questions live this hour.
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chris frates is with the governor. what have you learned about this pleading the fifth? >> well, i'll tell you, this is the second stop official in bridgegate to plead the fifth. the campaign manager has done the same thing. bridgette ann kelly has also pleaded the fifth. the governor was just asked about this on the radio show. >> it doesn't tell me anything. i know everything i needed to know from a point of employment for bridgette kelly when she didn't tell me the truth and i fired her. and i said to all these people who have lawyers now is i hope they would share information with us. and i also understand that people have rights. >> how significant do you think this is? >> i think it's very significant and raises questions about whether or not they can plead
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the fifth in subpoenas and that's something that the co chairman of the legislative committee will take a look at. and the other thing i want to take a look at is the u.s. attorney's criminal investigation is something that he is cooperating with. his office has been subpoenaed. and that is a new development as well. we knew his re-election campaign had been subpoenaed by the u.s. attorney but now we are learning his office has as well. he says he will fully cooperate with that investigation. a couple of big news items from this interview today. >> thank you very much, chris frates with significant news coming out of that. the governor still taking questions from new jersey residents. denying he knew about the scandal beforehand. coming next, football and fur. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ]
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the super bowl may have been a blowout but it was the most watched blowout in television history. a record 111.5 million people tuned in to see the seattle seahawks stomp down the denver broncos. >> reporter: quick name the mvp, not of the super bowl, of the puppy bowl. >> he breaks for the sideline, crosses the 40, the 30, the 20. >> reporter: touchdown.
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he scored four but who's counting? not the pups. the 66 pups reminded us of the denver broncos. >> it's a fumble. >> reporter: except for when the dogs scored. >> and he's in. >> reporter: though the broncos didn't plop down in the end zone and quit. it was just one of the other bowl games. there was hallmark's kitten bowl where kitties were maimed tom cat brady and feline manning. and we can't forget the fish bowl. four hours of watching a goldfish mope around a bowl joined occasionally by a guest fish on nat geowild. but it was the puppy bowl that most mirrored the big game. >> the puppy bowl had a lot of trash talking. >> that aggressive behavior
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could get her ejected. >> reporter: instead of bruno mars, the halftime show featured the keyboard cat. this updated version was playing a bruno mars song. though bruno's impressive footwork put the pups to shame when one kicked the ball over the goal line, all the dogs come from shelters and all but two have been adopted. >> he's at the 30, the 20, the 10. he scores again. >> congratulations you the mvp. >> reporter: but how did joe namath get mixed up in the puppy bowl? it was the fur he wore to the super bowl coin toss. he was compared to ron burgundy. he was compared to the ikea monkey and one of the most often repeated tweets is that it is
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made from the loser of the puppy bowl. talk about a personal foul. ge jeanne moos, cnn. >> my favorite thing was watching the goldfish relative to that game's performance. thanks for watching, piers morgan is next. this is "piers morgan live." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight hollywood loses one of its best actors at just 46 years old. graphic details of dylan farrow's accusations of molestation. here's what the governor said tonight about what he knew and when he knew it. >> nobody has said i've known anything about this before it happened.