tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN February 4, 2014 8:00pm-9:01pm PST
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next, breaking news. specific terror threats targeting the olympics. the chairman of the house intelligence committee is outfront. plus a report says obamacare could cost 2.5 million jobs. the headline has republicans pouncing, democrats running scared. and new details about the final hours of philip seymour hoffman's life, a man who talked to him just before he died joins us. let's go "outfront." >> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. we begin with the breaking news. a top u.s. counterterrorism official tonight says there are "specific threats aimed at the olympics which are just three days away." the u.s. tonight tracking threats racing against time to stop any terrorist attacks. u.s. warships and airplanes are moving into final position ready to respond. president obama was briefed on
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the situation today. and his team says they are "taking all appropriate steps regarding the safety of americans." and joining me now is congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee. thank you so much for taking the time. obviously, the director of the national counterterrorism center at the hearing today said "there are a number of specific threats when he it comes to terror attacks at the olympics in sochi." how worried are you? >> well, i think the venues themselves will be okay. you know, the russians have done a lot of guards, gates and guns to try to secure the venues and try to get a ring around the games. i'm very concerned by the sheer level of attention and effort not just from chechens and folks in that region but you know, outside of that region that have expressed an interest in actually having a violent act occur at the games. i'm very, very concerned. there's some lack of cooperation issues. they're not at 100%.
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they really should be when it comes to people's lives at the games. we know it's a high threat environment. >> when you say from outside the region, obviously, you know outside the chechen dagestan area. are you talking about al qaeda? what other threats do you have? >> well, there are al qaeda and al qaeda affiliates and we believe other groups that fit the terrorist profile that have expressed an interest at least in aspiration of trying to do something at the games. so all of that is concern, and it just kind of ups the opportunities for a mistake to be made if somebody were to slip through one of the cracks in what is a fairly robust guards, gates and security plan. the best security you can have is that combined with fully robust inner cooperative intelligence. that last piece is missing. >> we're also hearing, anecdotes about look, there's construction
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that isn't finished. there are thousands of people coming and going from that ring of steel of that olympic village every single hour of every single day. every single one of those people raises a small small chance of something nefarious going on. are you sure that that inside ring at the games themselves is really secure? >> well, you can't say 100%. i will tell you the physical presence is huge. the deterrent sprens in -- presence is incredibly large. and it's not -- i want you to understand, it's not like the russians are saying we're not going to try at this. they're trying at this. they're just not fully sharing. because of the high level of threat outside of even the venues, you know, i am very, very concerned about it. and yes, every time that you have to be right 100% of the time and you know you're in this kind of a high threat environment, that is a -- that just means that there is a high degree that something could go wrong. yes, someone could get in,
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something bad could happen. i do believe their posture around the venues themselves is pretty high. i would argue that that's probably not going to be the target set that the terrorists would choose. they're going to choose what in their mind what is a softer target set, meaning you know, there's a way for them to circumvent security at least long enough. >> like a hotel or something outside the ring where civilians could be? >> yeah. >> we've been reporting on the so-called black widows in russia, female suicide bombers who want to die, who embrace that. how big a threat are the back widows to the olympics? >> extremely. i'll tell you why. the very recent bombing in russia was someone who fit that description. so you have -- it ramps up the game. so tend to be younger. they are clearly committed. you know, being a woman helps in some cases on the security front. and so it poses a very real
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danger when it comes to finding one of those security gaps that they are going to probe for and look for and again, they're not looking to blow up the entire venue event. they're looking for small but impactful murderous events so that they can impact the dialogue of the games. and the narrative of the games. that's what their goal is, that's what their stated goal is. that's what these other groups have aspired to participate in. that's why those of us including me as chairman of the intelligence committee is so concerned about outside of the venues. again, i think the venues are pretty good. i this outside the venues, lots of questions. >> chairman, thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time. >> thanks, erin. welcome back. >> thank you. as chairman rogers just said black widows are a huge threat to the games. we're talking about women like the ones here. black widows are female suicide bombers traditionally seeking revenge for the death of their husbands. but that's changed. now there's a whole new group.
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what terrorist experts are telling us are black widows 2.3. >> maria blew herself up in may last year near the police headquarters in dagestan, injuring more than a dozen, ending her embrace of radicalism. she wanted to die the way both of her husbands had in jihad. >> translator: this is jihad, the highest thing in the world she said in this video before she died. both her husbands were killed by special forces in sieges like this, the first when she was just 21. in a similar siege, her second husband and several other militants were also shot dead. here she is filmed by police coming out of the house. medina experts worry is part of a new kind of so-called black widow female suicide bomber in russia who don't, like in the past, decide to die out of grief and vengeance for a loved one. in what some experts are calling
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black widow 2.0, these women in the past few years, marry jihadis and seek martyrdom on their own as it seems fashionable. >> it is a trend. they have their own slang. i have seen these women after their husbands were killed and there were funerals and they don't mourn them. they congratulate each other. >> medina's mother in her first interview with medina's sister and orphan by her side says police had ordered her daughter to see a psychologist and three days before she died, medina vanished. >> translator: she's probably in heaven. i saw her in my sleep. she told me how great it was there. >> nick paton walsh, cnn, sochi. >> president obama on defense again. a government report today says obamacare could cost 2.5 million jobs. plus, woody allen responds to allegations he sexually abused mia farrow's daughter. his lawyer outfront tonight. and for the first time we hear
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a 15% tax paid by each worker. republicans immediately pounced. >> the cbo report today devastating 2 million fewer jobs as a result of the obama health care law. >> but democrats are crying foul. >> republicans talk about losing millions of jobs simply isn't true. >> all right. here's the question, how damaging is this report to the president? i want to bring in political commentator paul begala and bill kristol. two perfect people to talk about this. i love it when one side says the other is stupid and the other says the same things. it's perfect. republicans are jumping all over. republican national convention tweeting the cbo just reported #obamacare will push 2.5 million americans out of the workforce. this is a pretty damning report when you look at it. an average tax of 15% per worker. >> what? please, it's not a damning report. republicans aren't stupid. they're really smart. they're just less than fully
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honest about this shall i say. the report is great. it says a trillion dollar reduction in the deficit, in the debt. a trillion dollars. all my republican friends have been squealing about the debt like a pig stuck under a gate. this makes a huge down payment on the bush debt. second, it doesn't say that jobs would be lost. it says people will freely choose perhaps to retire early. they can't keep working. they'll be free to retire early before they get medicare because now they'll have health care or maybe new parents, new moms and dad, i'm thrilled you're back, but a whole lot of new parents may well choose now that they have health care to stay home with their kids. that's a good thing. this is called freedom. it's a really -- some of the coverage on this has been deceptive. >> bill kristol, and as paul points out, the report doesn't say employers are cutting jobs. it says people will choose to work less because they're going to choose to get the subsidies instead of working. okay. is that all right?
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killing jobs is a fair characterization or not? >> they could give everyone subsidies and no one would have a job and paul would think that's wonderful. no one would work. i thought there was a serious problem with unemployment in this country. it turns out obamacare is contributing to it already and more in the future. obamacare is a wonderful liberal social program. if you like your insurance, you lose it. if you like your doctor are, you lose her. if you like your job, you lose it. it's like a perfect example of liberals big government social engineering. it will be studied for decades in public policy schools as the example of the failure of liberal public policy. unfortunately, it's hurting the country now. we'll have to repeal it as soon as possible. >> paul, it does seem, by the way, about the deficit reduction, that's a serious point. but in terms of the jobs, is it really a good thing? you made some points. but is it really a good thing if people choose not to work because of subsidies? >> not because of subsidies, because of values.
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they have a new baby, a sick mom they want to care for. they have a bad back, they're free to retire. >> but certainly there there will be some people who choose to because of the math, won't there? >> no, they will choose to because of their values. values trump economics in people's real lives. i will point out, 8.1 million private sector jobs created by this economy since obamacare passed, the most robust period of job growth we've had since clinton was in the white house. 58% to 95% of those jobs full-time there's a big thing it's going to push people out of full-time work. it hasn't. this thing has been a huge winner actually. i hope democrats will kind of get off defense and play offense. >> bill, what about the point he's trying to say, values trump economics? do you buy that or are some people going to say look, if i'm going to have a subsidy, i'm not going to have a job and go ahead and jump on the system. >> i do think values trump economics. i think one value we believe in
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here in america is freedom. people should be free to have the insurance they want. if you decentevise hiring and employment, you'll get less of it. long-term unemployment is a big problem in this economy and the president has complained about it. it's his policies helping to cause it. >> let me ask you, paul, this isn't the president's only clash with the right this week. people like bill kristol are getting to him. here's part of the president's conversation with bill o'reilly on sunday when he asked about the irs. >> we still don't know what happened there. >> bill, we do. that's not what happened. folks have again had multiple hearings on this. i mean, these kinds of things keep on surfacing. in part because you and your tv station will promote them. >> and then paul, the president went on to call o'reilly unfair and told the new yorker he's had trouble persuading the republican base he's not the caricature you see on fox news. is he giving fox too much credit? is he focusing on them, giving them too much power by the president of the free world
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keeping talking about them? >> that's a fair point. he was in a conversation with mr. o'reilly. i suspect if you were interviewing him, he would not have gone out of his way to mention it. fox news is a comedy channel that pretends to be news. it's hilarious. >> i'm sure none of them have ever seen it. >> fox news is not on the level. i love that. let me give you a fair point on the irs, for example. how much did fox cover the fact that the same inspector general who originally said tea party groups were being targeted also reported that progressive groups were targeted? fox didn't cover that part. >> bill, you used to work for fox. >> i did. it was fair, balanced. underpaid. they report, you decide. i guess the president has some problems. the president thinks everyone should be -- cnn is sort of he's okay with a balanced network the most network should be like msnbc. all the news should come out of manhattan dominated by liberals.
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god forbid -- >> where fox is located. >> god forbid that there should be another point of view. i do think he's probably giving fox too much credit. i'm sure fox is happy to take it. >> that's probably true. when you get someone on the right of things in the white house, i'm sure they'll say exactly the opposite. all right. >> actually, to be fair, george w. bush did not complain actually about the media to his credit. >> not about fox. >> about the media at all. >> dick cheney too. >> president obama is surprisingly thin skinned for the president of the united states. >> we'll leave it there. you left paul speechless. i'll give you credit for that. >> i just didn't want to interrupt. i thought the president did a good job of standing up for the truth against a propaganda machine. >> thanks to both. we'll look forward to having them back. still to come, new developments in the philip seymour hoffman investigation. a couple weeks before his death he told our guest i'm a heroin addict. that haunting story is out front. plus google under fire. protesters say google is waging class warfare.
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tonight, a case of class warfare pitting google against the city of san francisco with residents protesting google commuters. specifically i'm talking about the new shuttle buses that transport google workers from the city of san francisco to google's offices out in the suburbs in silicon valley. should they be protesting? that brings us too tonight's number, 20,000.
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the number of co2 saved every year because of google's bay area shuttles. otherwise, the people could drive or do other things to get out there. the protests are say it's still bad. google is taking 4,000 cars off of the road every day. why are san francisco residents so angry about the shuttles, the rich against the poor? dan simon has the story. >> san francisco, not for sale. >> reporter: a bus stop in san francisco swarmed by protesters. these people angry at what they see as growing income inequality in the city. but to understand the issue, you need to check things out on a regular day. so we did. it's 9:00 a.m. on a wednesday morning. and these google employees are headed to work. same goes for these apple employees, facebook employees, genentech, employees and linked in employees. all hopping on company-provided shuttles to make the hour long commute from san francisco
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to silicon valley. some 17,000 workers going back and forth each day. >> without the shuttle, it would be a huge hassle. i don't know if i would have taken the job without that additional perk because for me, i don't have a car in the city. >> reporter: like many young people in the tech world, lindsey norman chooses to live in the city instead of closer to work. that simple fact is where the frustration begin for many other san francisco residents. the biggest problem is that young well paid tech workers are taking up a disproportionate share of housing and driving up already astronomical housing prices. rent increases in san francisco are outpacing the nation more than threefold. the average price of an apt is more than $3,000 a month. >> it's sad to see people see people being forced out of their homes where they lived for decades. >> this is just a symptom of a larger change. a lot of people are moving to the city. people want to live here. >> reporter: so these buss have become a target of what critics
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say is the gentrification of san francisco. do the protesters have a point? >> fairly or unfairly, these commuter buss have become a symbol of inequality, a symbol of our affordability crisis and these are very real phenomenon. that many in san francisco and many around the country are experiencing. >> reporter: some city leaders say the anger is misguided, pointing out the buses take thousands of cars off the road every day and the tech industry's positive ripple throughout the economy. >> for every one technology and innovation job we've had, we've had three or four other jobs in other sectors whether it be hotel and restaurant workers or retail that have been helping our economy. that is a good thing. >> reporter: for those squeezed out of housing, it's a tough sell. for them, this has become a new to voice anger. >> mom and pops are gone. >> dan simon, cnn, san francisco. and that brings us to tonight's outtake. the google barge is in hot water. this mysterious four-story structure has run aground and
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afoul of officials in san francisco after it was determined google doesn't have the proper permits for that structure in san francisco bay. it's huge. it's four stories. i mean, it's a massive massive structure. it appears it never dawned on anyone to check and see if it was legal to build a four-story huge barge in the middle of the bay. and for now, construction has been halted. executive director of the development commission says it will have to move. today, googtle went sent outfront this statement. we just received the letter from the san francisco bay conservation bay and development commission. we are reviewing it. you would have thought they would have looked up protocol before they received such a letter. but how? god, if only there were some sort of giant search engine and ask a question. yes it does seem the company's legal department didn't search for san francisco bay permits on its own website, google. if they had they would have seen the very first result was for the san francisco bay and
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development commission which offers all the information you would need to know about permits and fees. of course, that's just google. maybe that was the problem. there are other search engines available, google lawyers. that's why we tried the same search on bing and probably not all that surprising, all of bing's first page results were about the google controversy. still to come, new developments in the governor christie bridge scandal. why his re-election campaign is getting an extension to respond to subpoenas. plus, what we're learning about the final hours of philip seymour hoffman's life. a man who spoke to him before his death is up front. and a life saving drug for someone who overdoses on heroin. dr. sanjay gupta joins us with the incredible video of how this drug actually works. hey guys! sorry we're late. did you run into traffic? no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things.
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and welcome back to the second half of "outfront." new developments in the so-called bridgegate scandal plaguing chris christie's administration. cnn has learned his reelection campaign has been given an extension till february 24th to produce documents subpoenaed by a committee investigating the scandal. we're also hearing four port authority officials have submitted to documents under subpoena a day after christie appeared on a radio show saying again he knew nothing about the bridge lane closures he said before they happened. the chief financial officer of target was on capitol hill today. facing the heat on the hack that affected 70 million americans.
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if you're one of them which you probably are, the retailer says they're deeply sorry. that, of course, is little consolation but target said it's investing $100 million to upgrade its credit card system looking at an advanced chip based credit card technology supposed to be safer with magnetic strips. it would be interesting to see if the fraud is able to test in the courts if target is liable. we know the seattle seahawks won the super bowl. they weren't alone. gammie winning singer bruno mars scored big-time on the brink of returning to the charts after his performance. in the two days since, sales of his latest album unorthodox jukebox are up 164%. impressive for an album released nearly 14 months ago. on average, songs played during the super bowl halftime show see an increase in sales of 555% in the week after the game. by that measure, he is underperforming but it's amazing when you have 100 million viewers what you can get. we have new details on the final
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hours of phillip seymour hoffman's life. a witness saw him withdrawing money and talking to two men the night before he was found dead before a suspected drug overdose. we say suspected because the formal report doesn't come out till tomorrow. police are searching for anyone who could be linked to the drugs that may have killed hoffman. he was found in his apartment sunday with a needle in his arm. jason carroll has the latest. you've been covering this. what more are you learning, those final hours in his life will be so important. >> very important. there's still a lot of questions in terms of why he relapsed and obviously, who allegedly sold him these drugs. that's what investigators are focusing on. they're focusing on doing that by what, by first, interviewing and questioning those who knew hoffman best. they have spoken to his former partner, the mother of his three children. they've also spoken to his former personal assistant. but also as you mentioned there at the top, they're looking at what happened at this atm on saturday night carefully. apparently it was about 8:00, a
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witness told investigators he saw hoffman go to this atm and investigators now say that he withdrew $1200 six different transactions in order to get that money out saturday night. so obviously, investigators are going to be looking at the situation, looking at the two men to see if they had any connection with what ultimately happened to hoffman and obviously, as you know, we've been watching all of the twitter, tweets coming in from people who knew hoffman. a lot of actors weighing in. george clooney at a premier right here in new york talked about what this death has done, what it has meant for him and for the acting community. take a listen. >> he was a friend and you know, had dinner with him a couple months ago. i have to say he seemed pretty good shape and it's -- there's no way to explain it. there's no way to understand it. it's just -- strangely that the entertainment community acting,
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film making community, theater group is a really tight group. he was in an important part of all of that. him not being here is really difficult to understand. >> again, as you know, hoffman leaves behind three young children. we were just told a little while ago about funeral services. there's going to be most likely a private funeral service for family only expected this friday right here in new york. >> jason, thank you very much. the toxicology report is tomorrow. a lot more questions. why did he do it in six transactions? a lot of this will be a part as they try to piece together what happened and who else might it be involved or how liable because as investigators continue investigating the death of philip seymour hoffman, his lifelong partner mimi o'donnell and his assistant were seen coming from a funeral home we're learning more tonight what he was doing in the months before he died, not just the minutes but those last crucial few weeks. john rundle is the associate professor of washington "life" magazine.
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he ran into hoffman at the sundance film festival a couple weeks ago. john, you know a very poignant interaction with him. tell me about the encounter you had with philip seymour hoffman. >> it was the most bizarre encounter i've had with any celebrity i've interviewed and i've interviewed quite a few. i had met him actually at caan and also at sundance two years ago. he was always upbeat. you could always ask a great question and he would answer it with a funny grin on his face. and we sort of all loved him. but there was a buzz going on this time around at the film festival. he wasn't quite right. and none of us could put our finger on it other than the fact that he just was sort of rambling with his answers and such. and then i bumped into him at
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one of the late night parties in sundance. and i didn't even know who he was. you know, and i met him several times before. he certainly didn't know who i was. but he had a floppy hat on and looked disheveled. he hadn't shaved. and i said, what's your name? he said, you don't know who i am? and i said, no, what do you do? and he said i'm a heroin addict. and then he took off his cap. and looked me straight in the eyes and i said, oh, you're philip seymour hoffman. and he said bingo. and at that point, he sort of trailed off. as he was walking off, he said, well, i just got out of rehab. >> wow. i mean, it's amazing he would have said that and identified that you had that moment. i want to add shelly sprague into the conversation as well here, john, before i ask you another question because i want her to react to what you just
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said. shelley, you're a certified addiction specialist. what do you make of this interaction john is talking about what philip seymour hoffman said to him. he said what's your name. i'm a heroin addict. >> he was obviously intoxicated and he was obviously not functioning well because he was probably on heroin at the time. and in addition to drinking, you know, there's no telling what your behavior will become like. and that sounds consistent with the ability for somebody to be under the influence and maybe reaching out or maybe just accidentally putting it out there, but i'm sure it was a very bizarre experience because that's how this works. you can't really understand what they're taking because have you no frame i have reference for heroin addiction generally speaking so these people are on heroin and you don't know what's wrong but you know something's off. >> john, how did you look to you? you're saying that the word was going around he wasn't quite right. you talk about a floppy hat.
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how did he look physically? >> he looked pale and he looked disheveled. and he looked like he hasn't slept. as a matter of fact, i was with somebody from dreamworks who was telling me he was on the flight with him from l.a.x. at 5:30 in the morning and said he didn't look like had he slept and that he was up in the first class section pounding away on the bloody marys. i was also was people who will very normal interactions with him at the sundance festival and at the collective where they shot perhaps the last portrait of philip seymour hoffman. it was a very brooding shot. and you know, the gentleman that spent an hour with him told me that he talked enthusiastically about "hunger gaps games" and the shooting of that in georgia. and how excited he was about the shooting of hunger games 2 that's now coming up. so varied reactions. >> varied reaction. it shows how he was struggling.
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there were moments of lucidity and moments where things were so dark. thank you very much to both of you. i appreciate your taking the time. john, thanks to you for sharing that story. two weeks ago, we spoke to the governor about the alarming use of heroin in the state of vermont. he devoted his entire state of the state union address to that problem. today, senator harry reid called veermt's governor a visionary. between 2000 and 2010 is, heroin overdose deaths have increased by 55%. it's a national crisis. law enforcement and people trying to fight addiction are pushing for greater access to a drug called nalaxon, a drug that can reverse a heroin overdose. dr. sanjay gupta obtained remarkable video of this drug in action. >> reporter: what you're looking at is pretty shocking. a heroin addict overdosing. her name is liz. she's been using drugs since she was 11. today, she's 29.
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adam wigglesworth and luis vincent were both with her that night in august. they both volunteer with the program in greensboro, north carolina that provides clean needles and other assistance to addicts. >> she seemed to be pretty unresponsive and we were noticing a blueing of the lips, lack of oxygen. her breathing became quite shallow. >> once someone's not responding to any sort of stimulus, you give them breaths and at that time, i usually administer naloxone. >> reporter: watch what happens next. >> we gave her about 60 units of narcan. >> reporter: narca can reverse an overdose from hair wane and other drugs like oxycodone. another sternal rub, another shot of narcan. >> give her more narcan. >> giving her the rest. 12 ccs. >> reporter: and finally, liz
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begins to come to. >> liz, you okay? you went out. we're giving you some narcan. you overdosed. can you sit up? >> yes. >> all right, come on. >> you want a glass of water? >> reporter: i can tell you, i got a chance to meet liz who you're looking at there. she's doing very well today. this drug naloxone has been used for years in emergency rooms but the push now is to get it in the hands of first line responders, emts and also potentially people who use heroin themselves. it's controversial in some areas but as you saw there, it can potentially really rescue someone from an overdose. goal is to call 911 first and then possibly give this medication, erin. >> so sanjay, when we talk about the in the case of philip
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seymour hoffman as an example, you're not able to give a medical point of view for sure, but the question is could it work on any overdose? could it have saved a life like his? >> this works on specific types of drug overdoses but heroin is one of those types of drugs. typically you think of narcotics, morphine, these things that are high dose pain types of medications. but heroin falls in that same category, as well. we don't know to your point because we don't know the full toxicology report. there have been cases where heroin has been laced with another pain medication that would vshg wore quickly. but there's an important point here, aaron. that is that is someone would have needed to be there. you need to have somebody else there to give the medication. this is what the kit looks like right here, a couple of vials, syringes. it comes with instructions. the goal is to get these into the hands of people who might benefit from them. >> thank you very much, dr. sanjay gupta. new details about the sexual abuse allegations against woody
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mia farrow comes to her daughter's defense. the actress pushing back against claims she brainwashed her daughter dylan into believing she had been sexually abused by her stepfather, woody allen. dylan an alleged abused her when she was 7. she says, this is not about me, it's about her truth. woody allen's lawyer is outfront. thank you very much for coming outfront. what is your response? >> my response to mia farrow today is that the yale new haven experts, the sex abuse clinic that the authorities sent the case to, investigated the matter totally for six months. and determined that mia farrow coached dylan and that dylan was having difficulty with distinguishing fantasy and reality. they also concluded it did not happen. that the molestation did not happen.
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that is -- should be the end of it, and the fact that it's coming up now 20 years later is remarkable because the matter was resolved. the molestation matter was resolved by the authorities 20 years ago. >> now, i know obviously it's coming up when he's up for awards and a lot of people are talking about the timing. but there are some questions about the study that you mentioned, the yale new haven study. let me ask you about. they looked back into it and concluded dylan had not been abuse. but sect but connecticut magazine investigative reporter looked into that study late earn wrote, i want to quote it and get your response, the yale team used psychologists on allen's payroll to make mental health conclusions basically saying some of the psychologists that worked on the study had also treated on it. >> they were interviewed as were mia farrow's psychologists and psychiatrists as was dylan's psychiatrist. everybody involved in was
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interviewed. woody took and passed a lie detector test. mia did not take a lie detector test. everything that was done that could disprove those charges was done in an objective way. this was the law enforcement people that relied on what the yale new haven committee was doing. >> i will just note for the record, the new york custody judge said he wasn't convinced the evidence exonerated him. not everybody supported the results of that study. >> the custody decisions were based on different factors that had nothing to do with the molestation. that's a whole separate issue. we obviously disagreed with the judge. we felt that because mia farrow had, it was determined coached dylan, she was an unfit mother. that's why we tried to get custody. he disagreed with that. >> i wanted to quote what a
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clinical psychologist said. he quotes, behavior like this doesn't happen in a vacuum. it's not unconceivable, the person who would marry the daughter of his girlfriend could also be called into question for possibly violating other family boundaries in that same family. people say if he could do that, he could do this. >> absolutely incredible. there's no connection between marrying a 19-year-old -- mia farrow married frank sinatra when she was 19. this was a relationship that was sanctioned by law when they were committed to marry. they married. that have been married for 17 years. they have two teenage children. the fact that people think that she was his daughter is just not
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true. >> he never formally adopted her. >> no. and there's no denying that. >> but he was with her mother in a sexual relationship and then -- >> yes. >> you can see where people could get that. >> i don't see the relationship between that, having a relationship with a 19-year-old takes you to very dramatically serious charges that he molested a 7-year-old. i don't see the connection. nor did the yale new haven group. >> thank you very much. we appreciate you taking the time. still to come, how a man says he staid alive while lost at sea for more than a jeer. jeanne moos is next. [ female announcer ] you know the little song he'll hum as he gets dressed.
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is it a real life version of "castaway?" a man claims he spent more than a year adrift in the pacific ocean, living on fish, birds and turtles. some are casting doubt. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: after 13 months adrift without a water supply, the apparent castaway was back on land, holding a coke. he spoke to a spanish translator as if he was talking to aliens, describing about driving about food and contemplating suicide. what were the foods he craved most? >> tortillas. [ indiscernible ] . >> reporter: he seemed mentally shaken and exhausted. but he was quick to react. no one asked whether he talked to anything the way tom hanks
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talked to his volleyball, wilson. >> we might just make it. did that thought ever cross your brain? >> reporter: when the real castaway left mexico on a one-day fishing trip, he was with a teenage fishermen. after their boat was blown off course, he says his companion refused to continue eating raw food and eventually died. throughout what would be a 5,700 mile journey, he says he survived on fish, birds and turtles. >> how did he catch a turtle? >> reporter: it wasn't exactly like when a flying fish drops from the sky in "the life of pi." he says the turtles did come banging against the boat. and all he had to do was grab them. skeptics abound, tweeting out, that's one chubby castaway. looks like he's been scoffing turtle burgers.
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doctors say he has liver problems and edema, swelling, which makes him appear bloated. but we don't know if the entire story is true. the hardest part he says is long periods without rain. he had to drink his own bodily fluids. >> urine. >> reporter: he finally washed up on a coral island. he was stark naked when he yelled at two residents. witnessed said his boat was covered in sea animals with a dead turtle and fish remains inside. during the interview, he kept touching his long hair. then he was treated to a haircut and a shave, all that hair like a bad memory, cast away. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> so what do you think of the story? sort of like the "life of pi" meets tom hanks. do you think it's true?
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let us know. tomorrow on "outfront," we'll continue to follow the latest on phillip seymour hoffman's death. we have incredible access inside one of the most elite and expensive drug treatment centers in the united states. how do the rich and incredibly famous get this is "piers morgan live." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. tonight as america continues to mourn one of its greatest actors i'll talk to the kid from "almost famous" what he remembers about sharing the screen with philip seymour hoffman. >> this is my advice to you. and i know you think these guys are your friends. if you want to be a true friend to them, be honest. and unmerciful. >> patrick fugat is here exclusively. also a hollywood a-lister. shocking charges of sexual abuse and a young girl caught in the middle of a scandal among mia farrow and wood cri allen. this is the story of roman
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