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all this he's intimidating? i bet one wellsy grad, hillary clinton, wouldn't have been intimidated at all. thanks for watching. anderson starts now. breaking news tonight. another warning on top of so many others in the run up to the winter olympics. this one on the eve of opening ceremonies. the federal government temporarily banning all liquids, gels, aerosols and powders in carry on luggage between flights when the u.s. and russia in the wake of concerns terrorists might set off explosives concealed in tubes of toothpaste. in case you're wondering what kind of damage that could do take a look. that is the destruction from just a couple of ounces of an explosive called rdx. that test was commissioned. explosive engineers sidney alfred filled a toothpaste tube with the rdx, topped it off with enough toothpaste to look totally innocent. >> i wouldn't like to be in an airplane with that explosive, not even a big one. it smells and tastes like
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toothpaste. i have presented this in such a way that somebody giving it a casual inspection will probably pass it. >> the question of course is how good are the inspectors. how tight is security at u.s. amounts especially on russian soil. ivan watson is in sochi for us tonight. barbara starr at the pentagon. barbara the tsa issuing this ban today. obviously the u.s. taking this latest threat seriously. >> reporter: absolutely, anderson. good evening, the department of homeland security issuing this ban as they would say out of an abundance of caution. but the reality is now the u.s. and the russians are tracking several threats against the sochi games. and the challenge for intelligence services in both countries is to determine which of these threats are specific, which are credible, who would have the capability to really assemble some of these devices and carry off an attack. and they are far from understanding that at this point. so still a lot of intelligence gathering going on, a lot of focus on this toothpaste threat.
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but the focus is spreading to other threats as well. >> and ivan, there have been reports that despite temporary russian ban on liquids in carry on luggage people have actually been getting onto flights with those restricted items in their carry luggage. do officials have an explanation for that? >> reporter: well, i interviewed the ceo of sochi airport. he said yeah, you're not supposed to bring any kind of makeup, cosmetics, whatever, in your carry on luggage. but then our own cnn sports correspondent rachel nichols arrived today after flying new york, moscow, moscow to sochi, with not one but two tubes of toothpaste in her carry on bag as well as cosmetics and other cosmetics as well. she said the russians in moscow airport for this internal flight did not take that away from her. so there seems to be some kind of a problem between -- maybe something's lost in translation.
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i really don't know. >> barbara, in terms of contingent plans in the event of some kind of attack, what does the us response look like? i know there's a ship off shore. >> reporter: there are a couple of navy ships off shore. what you have in sochi as i'm sure ivan as other members of our team would tell you, there is a u.s. operations center. that's really the hub of the u.s. response at the moment, personnel from law enforcement, intelligence, diplomatic security, all there, all keeping an eye on everything assembling information if there were to be an attack -- we hope there won't be -- they would be the first responders. they would have the latest information, work with the u.s. embassy in moscow, develop the plans for assistance to americans on the ground. there is now sort of if you wil government to government links across the board. diplomatic, law enforcement, security, intelligence and military. the question remains, though, if something were to happen how much cooperation will there really be with the russians.
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>> and ivan, it's obviously not as important as the potential security threat. but we've been reporting on this program a lot last night, we talked to you about it, about complaints by visitors about accommodations, about whether or not sochi is actually ready for the olympics. i know one official today had some interesting things to say about western visitors complaining about the conditions in the hotels. what happened? >> yes. strange quote from the "wall street journal" quoting that deputy prime minister saying "we have surveillance video of some of these people complaining about the bad conditions, turning on the water in their bathroom, firing the nozzle at the wall and leaving the water running all day" basically suggesting this was sabotae or something by some of the critics. but that raised another question, if this quote is in fact true, are the russians monitoring visitors in their bathrooms? and that's a big question.
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we can assume that the russians are very closely monitoring all the telecommunications, a lot of the data that is moving through this place. and i have to add on top of that. so this may become another issue for the russians now as people try to follow up that potential quote. but we also have to stress, anderson, the massive deployment of russian security forces on the ground. tens of thousands of them. this alleged ring of steel with fortified olympic venues around here. and also the reactions of some of the athletes i've talked to about the security question. i've met dozens of members of team usa coming off the plane. some of them said yeah we were worried about some of the security issues. now we're here, we feel good, we feel safe, and we're going to compete to the best of our abilities. i heard that again and again today at sochi airport from members of team usa. anderson. >> ivan watson on the ground, thank you barbara starr as well. republican congressman peter king sits on the house homeland
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security committee and intelligence committee. >> congressman, this latest threat explosives in toothpaste tubes. how credible do you think it snits. >> i thi >>. >> it was a legitimate source that gave the information. that doesn't mean it's going to happen, it's definite. but it's serious enough we have to consider it to be accurate. we have to assume that it's true and play it back from there. so it's something being taken very seriously by our country, by the russians, by a number of other countries who are also involved in this. >> you're on the house intelligence committee. there was a hearing before the committee on tuesday. the head of the national counterterrorism center said that there are quote a number of specific threats of varying degrees of credibility. saying a number specific threats, it sounds like maybe something more than toothpaste in cosmetic tubes. is that accurate? >> i really can't go into that. and i think just the fact we're
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saying toothpaste and cosmetics tubes, that's also pretty specific. that's the first time if this is true that this type of weaponry has been used. this is something we have not seen before. and it was given with a degree of specificity. so to that extent, that is what i believe director olsen was saying. because he also briefed us the night before in a classified session. there's a number of other threats we are looking at. and as i mentioned before, it's not always easy to do it this time because we're not getting full cooperation from the russians. >> the associated press is reporting that six of their employees either arriving on flights into or departing on flights out of moscow got through security with hand lotion, water bottles or even toothpaste tubes in their carry on luggage. how much does that concern you? >> i am generally concerned about the russians' approach to this. but i am not that confident. again, i have no idea if this
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report is true or not. but i'm not surprised to hear it, that the russians have a heavy-handed approach to security but often can let the smaller things get by. >> last week you and i talked, you said you wouldn't go to the games or have your family go to the games. that still hold true? >> it does. i don't want to be spreading panic. i mean, odds are still on there's not going to be an attack. but the odds are higher that there will be an attack in this game than there have been for any of the other previous games in or memory. so that's really the point that i'm making, that there's far more chance of an attack here than there was in london or china or greece. and you add to that the location and the fact that again i emphasize we're not getting full cooperation from the russians, to me it's just not worth the rest okay go. >> has the cooperation gotten any better since we talked last week or is it still the same? >> my understanding it's gotten slightly better. but still it's not at the level it was with the chinese or brits
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or greeks. >> peter king, congressman, appreciate it. thank you. >> anderson, thank you. staying in the region, somebody once said that diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy until you can find a big stick. point being, diplomatic nice tis can cover plenty of less than diplomatic sentiments as long as those sentiments stay private. tonight a leaked audio recording appears to show the top american diplomat to europe, a woman named victoria knewland, expressing her frustration with the your wean union, e.u. in solving the crisis in ukraine. one resembles nuland's. the audio starts with nuland. listen. >> he's now gotten both serry and ban ki-moon to agree serry could come in tuesday that. would be great i think to help glue this thing and have the u.n. help glue it. and [ mute ] the e.u. >> the call cannot be independently verified.
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it's unclear when it was recorded. it's pretty clear who thinks the u.s. leaked it. for that we're joined by national correspondent jim sciutto. the white house and state department who are they pointing the finger at? >> reporter: directly at russia. the state department called it a new low in russian craft. it was tweeted out by the aide to the deputy minister of russia. the account on youtube was called madon puppets, the name of the square where protesters in kiev are gathering. puppets is a russian charge that they are puppets of the west, puppets of america. this whole thing is an american instigated aware. i think frankly i don't know if the russians would push back too hard on them being behind this. so i think we kind of know where this is coming from. >> but why would the russians release it? what's in it for them? just embarrass the united states? >> reporter: i think to embarrass the united states and also fuel this idea that the protesters are not independent, that they're being fueled and
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prodded and instigated by the americans. that fits that narrative for them to have that and kind of undermines the public support and the legitimacy of them or at least from the russian point of view would undermine their legitimacy. >> nuland's apologized to her e.u. counterparts for what they said. the state department at least publicly don't seem overly concerned about that. >> reporter: i think the relationship's going to live another day. it doesn't show a substantive disagreement with the europeans on this. essentially they're on the same side. they prefer a ukraine that is more integrated into europe as opposed to one that is under the iron fist of russia. but it's a difficult thing to explain to friends. it kind of remind me of the wiki leaks scandal with a lot of cables going out there. really the biggest headlines from those cables were the personal snipe snipes at the french president from the american ambassador, things like that. so i don't think it's a substantive thing. but it does -- these guys are friends. they got to see each other. it's not a nice thing to say about friends. >> jim sciutto, appreciate it.
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let us know what you think. follow me on twitt twitter @andersoncooper. just ahead, new developments in the philip seymour hoffman death investigation. two suspects with possible connections to the drugs in his apartment were back in court today. we'll talk about that. also a former heroin addict -- a current heroin addict still caught up in the drug's powerful grip takes us inside his agony. >> are you afraid it's going to kill you? >> yeah. it's like a weird feeling of admitting the fact that why haven't i died. >> plus lawyers for the drunk driving texas teen who killed four people and avoided prison now say the media made too big a deal out of their affluenza defense. we're keeping them honest. ♪ ♪
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private wake for actor philip seymour hoffman is being held tonight. family and close friends have gathered at a new york funeral home. a private funeral will be held tomorrow. earlier today two of the suspects arrested in connection with the heroin found in hoffman's apartment were released after their bond hearings. juliana luchkew and max rosen blum pled not guilty. and police say vineberg had hoffman's cell phone stored in his cell phone. a fourth man not be prosecuted. the d.a.'s office said there was no evidence he had any control over the drugs. we all know by now philip seymour hoffman was found dead in his apartment on sunday with a needle still in his arm. after more than 20 years of apparently staying clean, he had recently started using heroin again. former heroin addicts and the experts who treat them all say the same thing that, getting clean, staying clean is incredibly difficult. tonight miguel marquez takes us
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inside heroin's powerful pull. >> you're using right now? you're high? >> yes. >> when did you last get high? >> probably half an hour ago. >> reporter: 37-year-old we'll call him john says he's used heroin for more than half his life. clean for seven months last year, his body, his brain, unable to say no to the drug. >> what is it about heroin that flips that switch for you? >> i don't know. i don't know. it's like it's like a feeling of love, like that love that doesn't go away. >> reporter: it's love. >> so that's an abscess from using the vein. >> reporter: needing to be fed by another hit every few hours. >> each time you use it you have to find a different spot? >> yeah. >> reporter: time now marked on the veins across john's body. each red dot another hit.
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another shortest cape from the inescapable. the need for more drugs. >> what does it feel like when you are denied it? >> oh, so alone. hurting. like just just painful like just hurting. >> reporter: alienated from much of his family, even his ex-wife and two kids, now unemployed. still the difficulty of getting off heroin monumentally harder than simply finding another hit. >> do you consider heroin medicine? >> yeah. yes. or i consider it a dish never thought about how i consider it, but it's something that i'm normal. i'm like normal. >> reporter: his addiction about 30 bucks a day, he says, with no
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steady income he tries to control his intake so as not to fall too far into debt. at times going without food, he's even resorted to begging on the street. he knows he's in the middle of a long, slow slide. he knows he needs to get off of it. >> i want to get clean. it's -- it's wearing me out again. nothing's changing. i want to get clean. i don't know -- again i don't know how. >> reporter: his hope? he'll find the strength to switch off that part of his brain demanding the next fix. today it seems a fading hope. >> i can't see myself continuing on this way. >> are you afraid it's going to kill you? >> yeah. it's like a weird feeling of admitting the fact that why haven't i died.
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why hasn't it taken me out. >> reporter: miguel marquez, cnn, los angeles. >> this person also knows what it's like to be in heroin's grip. a former member of cirque de soleil. his memoir "acrobatic addict" i don't know why i can't say that. acrobat addict he skrieps his fall from an olympic hopeful to homeless junky. battle to beat addiction which he's done. i've been reading the book. it's a really good read even though i can't pronounce the title correctly. do you relate to what that guy is saying about wanting to stop and not feeling like you can? >> completely. that's one of the reasons why i have written a book. heroin really locks you in, not just because it feels good but it's also physically addictive. and unfortunately, when you try to get clean you feel terrible. so it's really easy to crawl back. >> and you were performing in front of thousands of people in the metropolitan opera. and a very physical performances on stages, gymnast,
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contortionist. you were doing that while on heroin >> yes. >> i think a lot of people would be surprised by that. >> yeah. it is a little unusual i think for an athlete to be a heroin addict. they do other drugs. but it's a difficult thing, because i wanted to get clean while i was performing but i couldn't stop because i knew the withdrawals would happen. and you can't be sick on stage. so i'd have to keep using to finish the shows. it's almost as if i had to have time off to withdraw and then get clean again. >> i don't understand the appeal of heroin. i mean, at least initially. obviously it's a painkiller so it's a secession of whatever pain you were feeling. >> right. the appeal is the euphoria and there is no pain. as people we always have a little bit of pain. our knee hurts, our head hurts. then you take a substance that completely aannihilates any pain
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you have. >> physical pain versus emotional pain. >> i used to say you can't touch me on heroin. it's as if god is holding me. >> that's what it felt like. >> yeah. as if there's a fire inside of me. so to let go of that fire, it's like you're asking me to do a lot. >> in the book you described a feeling of having like a demon in your spine. >> yeah. >> what is that? >> as we watched on the video, he talks about this obsession, which is heart-breaking for me to see. he can't stop. and for me i felt like there was a demon inside of me. i wanted to stop so bad. i tried so many times, but i couldn't. i used to have a syringe in my hand and be crying like i don't want to do this again. but i would do it. and then the next day i'd say i'm not doing this today. >> how did you finally stop? >> it took forever. >> how long were you using? >> i used from 19 until about 29. >> wow. ten years. >> yeah. >> so what finally broke it for you? >> this is very cliche', but it's the only thing i can say to another addict out there who's
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suffering. and i do know exactly what they're going through because we often feel like we're all alone. you can't give up. i tried so many times and failed over and over and over. you've tried different things. for me it was a 12-step programs and rehabs and things like that. you have to get support. but you can't give up because your life is at stake. >> and for you it's now been seven years? >> it will be seven years in march. >> do you still think about it? >> i do occasionally. but the interesting thing is what he was referring to this obsession? it actually goes away. and i didn't know that. and i don't think a lot of addicts out there know that over time this obsession will dissipate. however, certain things in life will trigger it back. the desire to use. which is why it is a chronic illness and you have to treat it on a daily basis. you have to be vigilant. it's almost like you have to be one step in front of the disease. if you have a bad day, a breakup, a loss of job, give you anxiety, you want to use and
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kind of make yourself feel better. so you really have to be on top of your program or whatever. >> i'm glad you've come this far. >> me, too, thank you. >> again the book is "acrobaddict." you can find more on the story at cnn.com. coming up next the strange defense of the affluenza defense. this kid killed a number of people in a drunk driving accident. how the legal counsel for ethan couch, 16-year-old with history of reckless behavior before that and substance abuse blames the media for that defense. later, he shot an unarmed teenager to death over loud mujsic at a gas station. says it was in self-defense. we'll dig into the case of another man as his trial begins and this video is played in court. [ gun fire ] mouth entrees,elt-in-your like new parmesan crusted chicken, 3 courses, 2 people, just $25 at olive garden! also enjoy weekday signature favorites,
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welcome back. a case of adding insult to injury in the killings of four people. here's the background. holly boyles her daughter shelby, brianna mitchell and brian jennings all died when a pickup driven by 16-year-old ethan couch plowed into them near ft. worth, texas last june. ethan killed all four. he was three times over the legal limit for alcohol. alcohol he was too young to buy or to drink. he was also a kid with a history of reckless behavior and substance abuse and a child of privilege. it was that last point his legal team latched onto, crafting a argument that persuaded a judge to forego prison time. couch they said was suffering from affluenza. that's right, affluenza. they had a doctor say this. may sound ridiculous but the argument was because he had never faced any serious
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consequences for his actions before because his parents allowed him to get away with all this stuff he shouldn't be expected to now. psychologist g. dick miller testified at the trial. he's the one who came up with this term. he said he regrets using the term affluenza. when we last spoke he didn't seem to regret the outcome. >> isn't this making excuses? you say vast majority of people then want too much, spend too much, eat too much. but if you commit a crime, if you kill four people, you can't use that as an excuse, can you? >> no. and the term -- when you use the word kill, and people out in america hear that, it implies that there was some motive, that the motive was not good. >> are you saying he didn't murder four people? he didn't kill four people? >> yes, he did not murder four people. it's a legal term. >> okay. but he slammed his truck -- >> first degree homicide and
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involuntary manslaughter are different things, anderson. >> he killed four people. but intoxication, manslaughter which is what ethan couch plead to normally does carry significant prison time. when the judge first sentenced him to probation and rehab, apparently buying into this affluenza defense there was outrage. here now is the insult. after yesterday's probation hearing, after the judge reaffirmed the sentence, couch's lawyer blamed the media for all the fuss over the affluenza defense. >> i would submit it was ridiculous to think that we walked into court and said oh, this is a rich white kid and she decided to probate. i think that word might have got said once by a witness in passing. and all of a sudden that became the story. i just think it's really sad that she has been blasted in the immediatiate way she has for doing what she thought was right based on all the evidence because one word got out and went viral on the internet. >> keeping them honest, that one word, affluenza, didn't come out
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of thin air as the prosecutor in the case explained. >> well, that's ironic. because it's his expert that brought that before the courtroom. so somebody made a decision before this hearing that was a good term. he's a good attorney. his witnesses don't say things by accident. >> bingo. said another way, it wasn't the big bad media that started this whole affluenza thing, we never even heard of this as a defense. no one had even ever imagined it as a defense. it was the boy's own attorney who allowed this kind of testimony in. so insult and injury now reaction from eric boyles whose wife and daughter were killed by ethan couch and who joins us tonight. >> eric, i heard you say you wanted to hear two words from ethan couch yesterday that you never actually heard. what were those words? >> i'm sorry. you know, to expect probably a 16-year-old in this environment to rattle off some eloquent statement was not necessarily
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expected, i don't think, from the victims' families. but even just an attempt to muster "i'm sorry" would have went a long way. and we've not heard that anywhere along the way. >> do you think he is sorry? do you think he understands what he's done? >> well, based on what you see and the emotions in the courtroom, i don't get that. i've heard his attorneys speak to that. but i can tell you that in general from the victims' families, we certainly have not seen any remorse. and we certainly have not seen any attempt to provide remorse. >> the fact that this young man was sentenced to probation and treatment instead of a jouf nuv detention facility where he could have gotten treatment do you have any doubt money was behind that decision, money that paid for his attorneys and paid for fancy doctors and influenced the judge's decision about what kind of facility for him to
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ultimately go to? >> had money not been available for the defense, for the expert witnesses that were there, as well as money available for an additional treatment facility, typically not offered to other youthful offenders, it absolutely played into the decision that was made. >> a lot had been made about couch possibly being sent to this very expensive private facility out in california, one that his parents would foot the bill for. they had all sorts of like equine therapy and jyoga and cooking classes. were you pleased the judge instead remanded him to a state-run facility in texas? did that at least send something of a message? >> well, it is a lockdown facility. he's not going to be riding horses or taking yoga classes. so at least that is a plus. but at the end of the day, he completes his treatment, he goes home to his family.
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you know, i had a warm, vibrant home that i went to every night. i now go home to a quiet, stark, sterile environment. so it's now not a -- it's just a house. it's not a home. >> i was surprised the defense lawyer for this young man said yesterday that it was the reporting on this case that distorted the facts, the so-called affluenza defense that it should never have been the focus of the case. i was surprised by that, because that defense lawyer is the one who introduced it through the doctor that he selected to testify. >> oh, absolutely. the reason they're walking it back today is because of the media outcry that followed is negative. even if you just take away, okay, ethan couldn't know better because of the way he was raised, the affluenza still
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applies to the fact of the level of defense that was provided, of the expert witnesses that were there to testify on his behalf and the fact that he could pay for $450,000 facility a year. so i was actually surprised to hear them attempt to walk back the affluenza term they created it. the outcry follows it. and now they wish that indeed that the negative focus wasn't so much around affluenza. my own opinion is that doesn't go away. >> eric, i'm sorry to put you through this of having you come on and speak. but again, i do think attention on this is important. i appreciate you taking the time. thank you. >> thank you. up next, dramatic video showing the moment a florida man opened fire on a car of african-american teenage evers r a fight over loud music.
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self-defense. according to dunn's defense attorney, he opened fire fearing for his life after he says he was threatened and saw a weapon in the teen's suv. no gun though was ever found. during opening arguments today the jury heard the moment that dunn opened fire. [ gun fire ] >> oh, my god, somebody's shooting. somebody's shooting out of their car. >> that's from a surveillance camera video. cnn's reporter was in the court today and has more. >> reporter: ten shots caught on surveillance video at a jacksonville gas station. 47-year-old solve software developer michael dunn charged with first degree murder and three counts of attempted murder is claiming self-defense. dunn told police during an interrogation he asked the teens in a car parked next to them to turn down the music. he says first they collide then he says he heard threats. >> the guy that was in the back is getting really agitated.
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and my window's up. i can't hear anything he's saying. but there's a lot of [ mute ] him and [ mute ] that. and [ mute ] that. and then the music comes back on. >> reporter: two sides in court today telling very different stories about what happened on november 23rd, 2012. >> they'll tell you about the interaction between jordan davis and the defendant, that jordan davis was upset. he was cussing. no doubt. he raised his voice. but he never threatened the defendant. he disrespected. >> jordan davis threatened michael dunn. you're dead [ mute ]. this is going down now. with a shotgun barrel sticking out of the window or a lead
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pipe. whatever it was it's a deadly weapon. >> reporter: dunn told investigators he saw a weapon pointed at him, feared for his safety, grabbed his gun and fired. >> we have shots fired in the parking lot. the person firing has left. police say they never found a gun in the teen's red dodge durango. >> the only thing he had on his person was a cell phone and a pocket knife. and both of those things were in his pockets when he was shot and killed. >> reporter: at the crux of the case, why didn't dunn just drive off? >> he just had somebody threaten his life, display a weapon, try to exit a vehicle and say this is [ mute ] going down now. and for the first time in his life, he has to use a firearm to defend himself. >> reporter: so one thing that continues come up in court the fact that dunn left the scene, never calling 911. it was detectives who were able to talk to witnesses and found a license plate and that's
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ultimately how they tracked him down. anderson, you can imagine both sides of the aisle are definitely focusing on that element. >> thanks a lot. to discuss with our equal justice panel, a former federal prosecutor, a criminal defense attorney. sunny, he didn't drive off when he could have and avoided this whole thing. he did drive off after shooting this young man, went to a hotel, watched a movie, had a drink, hung out with his girlfriend. >> didn't call 911, nothing. and i think there's no coincidence that these types of cases are happening in florida. we've got the movie theater texting shooting case. we've got the zimmerman case. and it's happening in florida because of the stand your ground law. no one wants to talk about it. they're saying this is regular self-defense. the problem, anderson, in florida self-defense is the stand your ground law. it's codified, part of the standard jury instructions. and it's empowering people. it's made florida sort of like the wild wild south and made it open season on young black guys. >> mark, this guy dunn wrote some pretty stunning things,
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letters while he was in jail, calling people who listen to rap thugs, saying if more people would arm themselves and kill thugs when they were threatening you they would change their behavior. are those kind of things admissible? >> yes. they're clearly admissible. and as a defense lawyer the kinds of things that keep you up at night. you want to bitch slap the defendant and ask him what the hell he was thinking. the problem with a case like this is like any other criminal case, it comes down to jury selection. sunny was sweet enough to forward to me today the jury racial breakdown. >> you're welcome, mark. >> thank you, sunny. that has hung jury written all over it to me. >> why? what's the makeup? >> tell them, sunny. >> well, we don't know exactly where they're seated because we're we've got 12 jurors and four alternates. we don't know which jurors are the alternates. three african-american women and one hispanic man and all the
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other jurors are white. i will agree with mark on that. because if there are no african-americans on this jury it's going to be a big problem. withstand your ground it doesn't have to be a real threat. it's a perceived threat. so if you've got a group of black kids listening to rap music in your car, and you think that you're scared, then you can shoot to kill. and it's just shocking to me that no one's talking about it. it's just like the zimmerman case. and it's just like every other case you're going to hear about in florida because of stand your ground. it's zimmerman land again. >> it's like zimmerman because it's got sunny's favorite prosecutor there. >> mcdreamy gave the opening statement today. >> i can't believe you called the prosecutor mcdreamy. >> she loves this guy. she's got a crush on him since last trial. >> he's very good. he was a detective. >> i heard you thought about kevin costner when watching this video. >> i believe he looks like kevin costner. he gave a really impassioned, very good opening statement. i think he learned from the zimmerman case about putting the victim into the courtroom.
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we heard a lot about jordan dave is. >> but mark, it's depressing when you say that it all boils down to jury selection and this has hung jury written all over it. basically you're saying because of the racial makeup of this it has a hung jury? that's kind of a sad testament. >> well, it is sad. but anderson, after trayvon martin you and i have discussed this so many times. the kind of not so hidden secret about the criminal justice system is that it all comes down to race. i mean, not unlike a lot of american society. and unfortunately in a case like this, where you have a white male who has got basically no priors and you've got a black african-american victim and you have loud music and kind of this throw down situation, it plays into all of the worst racial stereotypes. and unfortunately, that's what's going to resonate or not resonate with the jury. >> and i just want to add very quickly what was shocking to me
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in the opening statements given by the defense today, he said there must have been a gun. they must have sort of thrown it away. and i'm thinking just because there are four black kids in a car doesn't mean necessarily that there was a gun in the car. it's just shocking. >> you want to know something, sunny? a lot of people would be very receptive to that argument. >> we're going to continue to follow this case because it's an important one. next a new twist in the woody allen sex abuse scandal. less than a week after his adopted daughter dylan farrow accused of molesting him, another one of allen's adoptive children is coming to his defense in people magazine why moses farrow says his sister is lying, made it up. plus dramatic video of a police chase and shootout. we'll show you how it ends ahead. i always say be the man with the plan
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allen during a custody battle in the 90s. the police investigation ended with no charges. moses farrow is the latest in family to publicly take sides. kate koin assisting managing editor for people magazine joins us now. this is so tragic no mat fer how you look at it. moses farrow said point blank the molestation of his sister never happened. >> said didn't happen. totally false. >> how does he know? >> he says the incident in question that dylan outlined in her letter, the incident in the attic with the train set couldn't have happened by his own memory, he himself was a child at the time. by his own memory he says it couldn't have happened. because on that day they were all in public rooms the entire time with babysitters, with shape roe chaperones, people with them at all times. so there's simply no way it could have happened. he doesn't seem inclined to believe it ever happened because he adores his father. he's very much in support of
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woody allen and doesn't feel this is something that's even possible that his father could have done. >> he also points the finger at his mom, mia farrow, in a number of ways. what was he saying? >> well, he basically believes that even if dylan believes what she's saying, it is only because mia has poisoned her mind, has manipulated her, planted false memories in her head that have sent been drilled into her for 20 plus years now and that this is the reason she's making these claims, that she's a vengeful, violent -- he goes on to say during his childhood he was physically harmed. really horrible person. by mia. he really goes to great lengths to paint a portrait of his childhood that was nothing short of horrific. >> he wasn't always supportive of woosies woosie -- of of ofwoody allen, was he? >> he says he knows of what he speaks because he himself was once on dylan's side, was once
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in dylan's position, being very much against his father, believing everything he had been told and he now characterizes himself as being freed from that in some way, that he has escaped this kind of brain washing. >> wow. people magazine also talked to dylan farrow exclusively. what did she say about her brother's allegations? >> tonight we posted a much lengthier interview with dylan. she had a lot to say. she is unequivocal about her feelings about what moses has now said. she sees it as a betray yal. she said that her brother is now dead to her. and that her memories were absolutely hers. she said my memories are mine. they were not manipulated or planted. in fact, when she went to mia mia hoped she was lying. mia said, it's okay if you've made this up. you can tell me. but that this absolutely happened to her, that this is her truth, that she is proud of herself as are many who support her for telling this truth. and that she cease what moses as doing is nothing short of betrayal. >> it's all in people and
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people.com. appreciate you joining us. very disturbing. let's check some other headlines. stephanie elam has a 360 bulletin. albuquerque, new mexico police have released incredible video of a shoot out they had with a man during a chase. the video was recorded on a lapel camera last october. take a look. [ inaudible ]. >> the gunman, christopher chase, died after being shot eight times by cops. he wounded four law enforcement officers that day. and tears at a bail hearing today from the man who shot to death a fellow movie goer last month. as his daughter took the stand on his behalf. witnesses say retired tampa police officer curtis reeves killed chad olsen after he was texting his 2-year-old daughter and tossed popcorn at the defendant. olsen's widow was wounded that day and was also moved to tears
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breaking news on the terror threats against the olympics. we don't have time for the ridiculist tonight. that does it for 360 right now. tune in at 10:00 p.m. eastern for the 60s the british invasion. "piers morgan live" starts now. this is "piers morgan live." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. let the games begin. looking live at the olympic village where the countdown to the opening ceremony is on amid fears terrorists may already be inside sochi planning attacks. could this become the most troubled olympics games ever? plus after tonight you're going have to find someone else to fall asleep with. >> the president said that unemployment is dropping, but critics claim it doesn't include people who have left the workforce. hey, how about people who were asked to leave the workforce like me? are we cluincluded in that? i'm not sure. >> the
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