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breaking news on the terror threats against the olympics. we don't have time for the ridiculist tonight. that does it for 360 right now. tune in at 10:00 p.m. eastern for the 60s the british invasion. "piers morgan live" starts now. this is "piers morgan live." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. let the games begin. looking live at the olympic village where the countdown to the opening ceremony is on amid fears terrorists may already be inside sochi planning attacks. could this become the most troubled olympics games ever? plus after tonight you're going have to find someone else to fall asleep with. >> the president said that unemployment is dropping, but critics claim it doesn't include people who have left the workforce. hey, how about people who were asked to leave the workforce like me? are we cluincluded in that? i'm not sure. >> the great jay leno's last
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ever "tonight show" i feel very sad about that. i'll talk exclusively to the man who's been at the beginning and been on the show 100 times. also the biggest loser loft 155 pound and woman a quarter of a million dollars. turns out you can be too rich and too thin. he'll talk to deepak chopra about weight loss and finding fulfillment. want to begin a big story olympic terror threats listen to what president obama told nbc's bob costas tonight. >> i think the russians have an enormous stake obviously in preventing any kind of terrorist act or violence at these venues. and they have put a lot of resources into it. we're in constant communications with them, both at the law enforcement level, at the military level, at the intelligence levels. >> the u.s. has banned all
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liquid, gels, aerosols and powders on flights to russian yeah. ivan watson, a lot of mounting concern about the security aspect of what is going on in sochi. what are you hearing about this? how seriously should we be taking it? >> reporter: well, if you talk to russian officials they insist that this is going to be the safest winter games ever. deputy prime minister who went out and said listen, sochi is going to be just as safe, it is just as safe as boston or washington or new york or london. when you talk to ordinary russians who have witnessed the massive construction behind me and the transformation of their city over the past seven years, you do hear anecdotal examples of people who are worried. we have heard from one family and they sent their children pulled them out of school and are sending them away during the span of the olympics because they're scared that this place could be targeted. others saying no, they're not
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worried at all, that there are massive deployment of tens of thousands of russian security forces here. as for the athletes themselves, well, i met dozens of american athletes, team usa arriving at sochi airport today. and i put that question to them. take a listen to some of their answers when i asked them about security fears. >> welcome to sochi. what do you think? >> so far so good. just landed. >> are you psyched? >> yes, of course. it's the olympics. >> while you were flying there were some more security alerts about possible explosive toothpaste. did that get to you? does that stress you out? >> yesterday we were doing prosi processing and we were traveling all morning. we hadn't herd about that. our job here is to focus on what we can control and what we can do. that's how we're going to perform at our first olympics. >> any message you want to send back home? >> hey, everyone.
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we're in so chi in sochi. ten years in the making. so excited to be here. >> piers, i talked to a team usa snowboarder, fey gurliin worrie about wearing her u.s. colors. upon arriving at sochi she said i'm going to probably put my team usa colors on from now on. clearly i felt for the first time really that olympic spirit at sochi airport, as americans were coming in, as the latvian teams were coming in. >> does it feel safe to you? you've covered many events in your time. do you feel reasonably secure? >> i have to say yes. i mean, these are my first olympics. on the highways that you travel on around here, there are russian police roughly every quarter mile, checkpoints, and
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they're standing and watching the roads. you have to have special accreditations just to drive around here. you can't even bring cars in from other russian cities. you'll get stopped, you'll be fined. everybody has to carry passes as well. the olympic venues are highly fortified. so yes, i feel okay. i mean, if somebody wanted to make a problem it would be much easier to embarrass the russian government, to raise the death toll, to hit other cities around russia. and you get as much bang for your buck. i do think it would be very difficult to make a problem here in this heavily fortified black sea port. piers. >> ivan watson, thank you very much indeed. i want to bring in our cnn national security analyst and former cia operative robert baird. i want to play you a clip from representative michael mccall, a chair of the house homeland security committee. what he told wolf blitzer today about the origin of the
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suspected plot. >> the plot itself originated from the leader of the chechen rebel extremists umarov where this plot actually hatched out of. there had been reports he's been killed since then. but the issue is the plot has been hatched. it is out there. you have really two threats going on. one is the aviation sector and one would be the suicide bombers within russia which i think there's a high prohibbability o will probable go off again. >> bob, if you were involved in the counter terrorist operation here, what would your biggest worry be now? >> airplanes. absolutely. the chechens have attacked airplanes in the past. they're capable of doing it. it's very difficult to protect all flights going into moscow or leaving moscow. the chechens have access to very sophisticated bombs, including ones using powder or liquids.
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they've got the detonators. i mean, if i were the russians, and as washington is i'd be scared of airplanes. >> in terms of the detail of what has happened today, banning all liquids, gels, aerosols and so on, obviously a pretty draconian step. is that indicative to your mind that they are really expecting something to happen or they're just being ultracautious? >> i think they're serious about this. i mean, they don't do this unless they have very good information, very specific. you always have threats against airplanes. but to ban powders and liquids there has to be something very serious going on. and i take these seriously, too. i lost three colleagues to an airplane bomb in the 80s. you can get these things on. it's very difficult for tsa to catch them all, especially the sophisticated ones hidden in suitcases. so i think they're properly take all precautions they can. and this isn't a joke, this threat. >> cnn today commissioned a
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demonstration of the kind of damage that just six ounces of an explosive material could do an amount that could easily fit into a toothpaste tube. obviously they'd been talking about the threat from a toothpaste tubes bomb. this is what happened. watch this. >> that's a pretty big bang given the very small quantity you would need inside a small toothpaste tube. i saw earlier that rachel nichols my cnn colleague took two of these tubes on her flight and nobody noticed. this is clearly somebody they're going to be serious about, isn't it? >> absolutely. i mean, these are military explosives. they'll cut. they don't push like liquid bombs and they can cut the skin of an airplane if they're put right. we had the underwear bomber. and the shoe bomber. those weren't serious threats because they weren't against the skin of an airplane. but presumably if you had a
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suicide bomber on an airplane, that placed this thing in the right part and it was confined explosive it could do serious damage to an airplane. that's one consideration they're looking at right now. >> bob baer, as always thank you very much indeed. security fears or not the games are officially under way. qualification events in the men's and women's slope style, women's moguls and team figure skater today. all athletes have arrived including sentimental favorites. gentlem jamaican bobsled team. >> i know you dainty little track stars think you're fast. let's see how fast you are when you push a 600-pound sled. >> the pilot of this year's team is winston watts. i'm glad to say he joins me now via skype. winston, how are you? >> i'm doing great, piers. >> now, the whole world loves watching the jamaican bobsled
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team after that movie. do you have any chance of getting a medal do you think? >> piers, i never like to tell the world what the jamaican team is going to do. we are approaching this olympics as the underdog. we are very hungry guys. when you're hungry you're angry. so just like usain bolt, the fastest guy in the world, that guy was so hungry to do his thing. that's why we're here. we're not here just to show up in russia just to be here. we're here for a reason. >> i mean, people do tend to slightly chuckle when they hear about the jamaican bobsled team. you obviously take what you do very seriously. it's incredible difficult and dangerous what you do. do you resent the fact that people perhaps don't give you the credit and respect you guys deserve? >> well, yes, they do give us the respect of course. because we're from a tropical country. people still have thoughts about you're from a tropical country, you have no ice in jamaica.
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only in the refrigerator. we have it buy ice to get cool down in jamaica. but we are different, and we are very gifted here to be the chosen ones to be here to compete for our country in the winter sports. >> you've had a few problems here. your equipment didn't arrive when you did. has i turnt turned up? if it doesn't what will you do? >> what we do, we have lots of people here who love us. so everyone here in the village, they were so polite for us, want to lend us uniforms, stuff like that. our uniform, our baggage was left back in new york, we think, because our flight was delayed and because they had bad weather in new york. and we have to reroute it. in jfk we should have landed. we were rerouted to philadelphia. so that's where our bags got
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left back. but no we have gotten them so we are back on track. >> excellent news. have you had any good wishes from usain bolt? he's a good friend of mine. has he been in touch to wish you guys luck? >> we have yet to hear from usain. that would be a great, great thing for us to hear from the star of the jamaica. so i'm still here waiting. >> i tweeted usain earlier. i told him i was interviewing you. i'm going to make sure that by the end of the play today he will be tweeting you good luck. leave that one to me. >> thank you very much, piers. i am looking forward for his tweet. i won't turn off my phone. i will be on looking at my phone all the time for his tweet. >> i'll get him and chris gale another great jamaican, cricket superstar. the whole world will be wishing you luck. i wish you very luck. i've got a big soft spot for jamaica. wonderful country.
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wonderful attitude. going there to win. what a good story that would be. good luck with your cool running. >> thanks very much, piers. thanks to all our fans out there who are behind us who made this happen. and we won't let you guys down. and as i said, we're here for a reason. and the reason is we're here to take what is ours. i leave it at that. >> i love the way you're talking, winston. left of luck to you and the team. >> thanks very much, piers. thanks for having me. >> my pleasure. when we come back jay leno's farewell. i'll talk to two men who were there from the very beginning. there they are looking hilarious. >> the games haven't even started yet and already there are people complaining about the horrible accommodations at the sochi olympic village. toilets don't flush, the faucets spew discolored water. they say it's like being on a royal caribbean cruise. it's awful.
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seriously, what are you going to do? >> i'm going to run for governor of the state of california. >> what's this thing with trump and you? it's like me and letterman. what has he got against you here? i don't get it. >> i pick up a sea shell out of the sand, put it to my ear, i hear o.j. talking about the case. he had just keeps talking. >> jay leno has had a great run but all good things must i guess come to an end. leno's last "tonight show" is tonight. we hear he choked up during the
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taping with his guest billy crystal. here to talk about the end of an ear remarks actor fred willard has made 100 appearances on "the tonight show" very first on this show. also actor comedian and owner of the john lovetz comedy club and -- his first job was writing for jay when jay filled in for johnny carson. a trifecta of comedic genius. wonderful to see you. >> i hope this will be the first of many appearances. >> i hope it will be the first of the next 99. here's my experience with jay leno. i've done his show maybe nine, ten times. always unbelievably friendly, courteous, respectful to me with my kids. i hear from other comedians constant yap yap yapping that he's a bad guy. >> no, i think his one complaint is he doesn't have enough other comedians to come on. but that's what he chooses for his show.
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i found it to be a blue-collar guy exactly what you'd think he was. i've done some of the tonight shows with johnny carson. the thing there was you could never talk to the host. never see the host. with jay he'd come around, knock on your door, come in, tell jokes. >> right. >> i would do little sketches. and one time the show was on. there was a commercial break. he knocked on my door, came in, the show was on. hey, man, that was great. so i am going to miss him. it was like having a funny uncle who'd come over and make funny noises and find a quarter behind your ear. then when your parents were out of the room he'd say hey you want to hear a joke? oh, uncle jay, couldn't wait for him to come in. i really am going to miss him. he was somebody -- i didn't watch him every night. but i would look forward to jail. it's someone you want to hear his view of what has happening. >> john, what is it about jay leno that inspires odd vitriol he appears to be a genuinely nice man. is it simply jealousy he's been number one for two decades? >> yes, that's what it is.
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and i met him when i was in college. he performed at my college and i got to interview him hen i was 19. i've known him since. he's been the same. he was like the comic's comic. he would help everybody. everybody looked up to him. he was like the top dog. everyone is trying to have a career and played the game. you have to be smart and figured it out. he was a superb standup. standups are very, very competitive with each other. and i did standup the last ten years, before that i was just acting. acting in theater everyone supports each other. but standup's an individual thing. they get very competitive with each other. and unnecessarily so. >> in terms of his style, many say his great genius in staying at number one was his ability to be funny for everybody. to you grandmother, to your son. he was all things to all people. many comedians say that was the problem. he tried to be funny for everyone. he lost that edge deliberately.
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where's the truth? >> jay is -- you know, these shows they're difficult. you know you run a show. they're difficult to keep on the air. and you like him or you don't like him. he's one of the best i've ever seen of keeping an show on the air. he does it in very smart political ways almost. he visits the different states and different cities where his ratings might be sagging. he'll do standup that weekend. and suddenly the ratings are propped up. this is a guy who filled some very big shoes 22 years ago, johnny carson. and is now -- he's delivering a number one show back to nbc. and say what you want about him, there have been some unpopular moments and controversial moments with conan o'brien and even with johnny, he's done just an amazing job. the guy's hosted one of these shows, an amazing job of bringing the show to where it's at and going out number one. >> fred, a weird thing isn't it a guy is still number one in the ratings, in the same position he was over the conan thing. he doesn't really want to go. it's not his decision to go.
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>> no. >> he's being forced out again. >> he's become more popular since the word came out he was going to be sent away. >> right. >> i wish there could be two "tonight show." let jay stay. i love jimmy fallon, let him have his show. i think and i've seen jay in person. he's funnier and has a sharper edge in person. >> right. >> but to appeal to a whole country, which you want to do, you want big ratings. >> and it's not easy, is it, from a comedic point of view to be funny to a smart crowd in l.a. or new york with lots of comedy clubs and so on and want that slight edge, and then to be just as funny or as warm as engaging when you go down to dallas or wherever it may be with a different humor, not so many of those kind of edgy comedy clubs. it's quite an art form >> yes. you can be very edgy and not have that many fans. so you got to choose what you want to do. and almost every top comic today will say that they were inspired by jay, they look up to jay.
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i never heard anyone say jay isn't funny. jerry seinfeld, everyone they were influenced by jay. they love jay. and the way he crafts a joke, it should be a -- he could do a lecture. it could be a comedy course on how he takes a joke. just the way he -- >> he's the ultimate -- i always think he's the ultimate boom boom gag merchant. sort of a boom boom. >> exactly. >> this one's how sandra bullock reacted last night. got quite tearful. >> i'm going to start crying. but you've always been so kind. and that's saying a lot in this business because we like to be mean [ laughter ] >> there's not been one time that you haven't treated me like i had something to offer even when the film was horrible and you knew it. you never let me see it in your eyes [ laughter ] >> you see, i love jimmy fallon. he's one of the most talented people i've ever interviewed in terms of comedy and music, anything. he can do anything. and i think he's a wonderful talent. but i'm really sad about jay
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leno going. and i sort of feel for him. it's like he doesn't really want to go. in his early 60s. life's sort of moved on from 60 having to be the age you get turfed out. you're living evidence of it. >> he's like an institution. you want him to be there. >> right. like you. you're an institution. don't want you going anywhere. >> he's living evidence of getting torn down. >> i mean of longevity. the game has changed. >> he is the nicest guy. personally he's always been great to me. when i started doing standup jay can you help me? yeah. is this funny? that was funny. i did some show. then like hey the guy's been working nonstop, "tonight show" for 22 years. amazing. he saved all his money from "the tonight show". it's hard to feel sorry. >> why are we feeling sorry for the guy? >> he's arguably one of the most successful standups, he is one of the most successful standups in the history. >> and will continue that. let's take a short break. let's come back and talk more about what jay will do next. a lot of rumors about what he
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might do. a rare one today he might come and do this job. i'm not feeling quite so benevolent to jay now. >> it's a pretty easy read. each chapter is just like a page or two. when you're threw in the john you can put it down, come back and read another one. >> i like the idea of you reading it in the john. >> that's where i did read it. >> did you stay in the john? >> i was constipated so i finished the whole book. [ laughter ] ♪ [ cellphones beeping ]
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you get your best bang for your buck? >> beats me. i've never been banged for a buck [ laughter ] >> fred willard there with jay leno. we're getting more details about the taping of the tonight show finale tonight. a hollywood reporter says many took the stage to pay tribute to jay tonight. we're talking about his work ethic. tell me a little bit more about it. he's legendary isn't he how hard he works? >> yeah. i said how do you do it all? he would do -- he gets up at 8:30 in the morning, works on the show, does the show tapes at 5:30 to 6:30. i guess he would have dinner. then he'd sh have all the comics to his house -- maybe at 8:30 to watch the east coast feed. then they'd work on the monologue -- >> which was always his most important thing. >> yeah. until 3:30 in the morning. goes to bed at 3:30, up at 8:30. you only sleep five hours a
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night? how do you do that? it isn't brain surgery. he always has two jobs. his work ethic is a huge reason why he's been so successful. >> that and he doesn't have kids. if you have kids -- >> and a very patient wife. >> that's your excuse. >> let's talk quickly about the conan o'brien debacle as it became. conan is a great guy, very funny guy. obviously the whole thing became a disaster. many comedians blamed jay leno. i must say i never did. i thought it wasn't his fault. he was told look you got to leave in five years time. when it came he was still by far the most popular guy doing that in the country. am i wrong? was he blamed? >> he's blamed. there are a lot of people in the comedy community that blame him. >> why? >> maybe he should have stepped aside and let conan take the show. maybe it wasn't right to go back. i'm not sure i feel that way. i was around when letterman was at nbc. suddenly it wasn't working out on "the tonight show" he made the decision to cut and run and he went to cbs. and it all worked out.
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it worked out nicely. i think it's easy to look back. hindsight is 20/20. go maybe he should have done the same thing at fox or somewhere else. but as you know, this business is difficult. it's hard. >> i sort of bought into his argument which is look, i don't really want to leave nbc. my nice life. and they've offered me 10:00. okay. my staff keep their jobs, i keep mine, everyone's happy. i'm going to play a clip my interview with bill maher recently about jay leno. >> what do you make of jay leno jay leno bowing out? >> i like jay leno. i'm unabashedly a fan. >> why does he get such a hard rap from other comedians? jealousy? >> a lot of it is that. >> i've found him incredibly nice, charming. >> yes. believe me, everyone could do a letter better in their personal life by saying what would jay do. i think they'd do a lot better in their professional life. >> fred, let's talk about jay the man. because actually he's quite a private guy. doesn't do many interviews,
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don't read much about him. on a couple recently but quite unusual. doesn't usually show you the private side a bit like john ny carson >> yes. and he wears a denim shirt around, regular guy. very hard worker. >> i don't see many other regular guys in denim shirts but -- we always say that about him. but where are all the other denim shirt guys walking around? >> and he had a private plane which i don't think he wanted people to know. he made jokes about airlines. but it was wonderful. but talking about his work ethic, he would fly to a job and then after the show fly back. he'd do a show in the bahamas at midnight, get on a plane to fly back. he once once said to me, i wrote a sketch, came up with a sketch for him about being in hawaii. and he said, you don't like hawaii, do you, fred? worst night of my life i spent in hawaii. i said oh, jay. but he flew in, something went wrong in hawaii. he did not like hawaii. wanted to get home. >> and spent saturdays tinkering
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with his cars. he had a great line he gave you about the mechanics of money and how to make money. >> i met him in college then "saturday night live" he hosted it. i met him in '85-'86 again. i said that was the guy that interviewed you. that was you? i can't believe it. a lot of comedians, you should be a standup and all this. i said, jay, do you think i should be a standup? he goes do it. john, write joke, tell joke, get check. that's it. and he had that ability. and he's right. to boil it down to simplicity, he's not neurotic and he works hard. and he really enjoys it. >> spike, i want to play a clip from seinfeld that you i think helped write this one. let's watch this. >> i didn't get any bread. >> just forget it. let it go. >> excuse me. i think you forgot my bread. >> bread $2 extra. >> $2? everyone in front of me got free
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bread. >> you want bread? >> yes, please. >> $3! >> what? >> no soup for you. >> that was a very famous the soup nazi sketch. and you wrote that. the reason i played it was this whole thing with jerry seinfeld coming out saying look, i don't want to be forced to have a certain type of comedy with a certain type of diversity or any of that kind of thing. let's listen to what he said about this. >> people think it's the census or something? i mean, we've got to represent the actual pie chart of america? who cares? it's just funny. funny is the world that i live in. you're funny, i'm interested. you're not funny i'm not interested. and i have no interest in gender or race or anything like that. but everyone else is kind of with their little calculating is this time exact right mix? i think that's -- to me it's
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anti-comedy. >> "saturday night live" have had all this as a big issue they've had to deal with. you both worked on that. what do you think, spike, about that? >> about what jerry said? >> yes. >> i think it's an anti-controversy here. he's saying that someone's gender, race, man or woman doesn't really matter as long as they're funny to him. he's saying the opposite of what people think that he's saying. >> should "saturday night live," john, have been almost forced into having a more diverse staff in the way that they were by pressure from the media? >> well, when i was on the show we had to -- my first year it was demetri vance and damon wayians african-american or something. when you're a comedian you look at if they're funny or not. more on that. but yes, if you have people of different on "saturday night live" you're spoofing society.
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you're sat riirizing it. >> let's just end with what jay will do next. what do you think about? >> i think the day after his show goes off he's flying to florida to do one nighters. >> of course. >> so that's great. i'm not going to lay awake tonight worrying about jay. although he did send out an e-mail saying could you contribute a few bucks to jay leno's retirement plan? i said jay -- the one thing about jay, i know a lot of people who have had sicknesses in their family. jay will get on the phone and call them. i know a writer, teshon shannon, jason their birthday would call them in texas and say hi, how you doing? he's a real guy. i wish him the best. i feel bad that he's not going to be on. it's a loss to me. >> he's like part of the family, isn't he? john what do you think he'll do? >> i think he'll do another show somewhere else. he likes to work too much. >> here on cnn? >> no. i don't think he will.
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i think you're safe. >> make a great cohost. >> oh, jay, please. >> i can't see him relaxing. >> he's 63. larry king went to -- he was 115 before they replaced him. he's 63. we're going to see him turn up. maybe not right away, but i wouldn't be surprised if he turned up on fox. >> any guy that could pull those ratings doesn't matter how old he is. a big check to come on again. >> of course. >> gentlemen, we could talk all night about jay leno. it's a very sad, poignant day. he's already taped the last one ever after 22 years. a special night and a special guy. thank you for joining me and paying tribute. >> thanks for having us. >> 99 more appearances on my show, fred. >> great. >> let's start booking them. >> great. >> coming up, imagine being able to feel younger while also growing stronger like fred. depa deepak chopra has the secret next. [ male announcer ] this is george.
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is with me in the chair. this is usain bolt has just tweeted "all the best big boss. represent jamaica proud and blaze up ice with more fire." we couldn't get a bigger rally cry than that from the greatest ever sprinter in history. winston, that one's for you from me. deepak, let's talk about this book. you've broken it down into the six courses. tell me a little bit about the six courses and how they relate to our lives. >> well, our perceptions about the aging process, our perceptions about our mental and physical capacity and our experience of time even determines the activity of our biological clock. if you're the kind of person who's saying i'm running out of time all the time, then your biological clock speeds up. your blood pressure goes up. your heart rate speeds up. your platelets get jittery with high levels of adrenaline.
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if you have a heart attack then you run out of time. so your internal dialogue about the aging process should be really that you can increase your physical and mental capacity as you grow older. >> what do you do, deepak? if you're jay leno and you're 63 and you've had this incredible full-time job for the last 22 years and suddenly you don't vet, a lot of people find that period in their lives really difficult to deal with. >> yes. >> what is the best way to navigate being out of a job like that? >> well, he has to continue. if he now retires and goes to florida he'll ultimately end up languishing in the nursing home. so jay leno has to take it to the next step. and he has the opportunity, he's built his career, and he should go on the road and continue what he's doing and even go to a higher level of expression. i think that's the only way. because if you have in your mind that at 65 or whatever you're
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going to retire and your mental and physical capacities will go down. >> i've read very bad statistics about the number of people who die within five years of retirement. >> absolutely. >> if they opt to do nothing. >> yes. >> it's a real thing, isn't it? your body almost reacts to doing nothing by closing down. >> absolutely. but now the fastest-growing segment of the american population is over the age of 90 and getting over the age of 100. the rate of growth of that segment, that demographic. so unless these people are going to be healthy and productive to society, it's going to be a huge burden on our health care and actually disrupt the economy and could be devastating for our country. so as we grow older, my generation, and i'm a baby boomer, i'm 67 by the way, i don't take any medication. >> are you really? >> yes. >> you look about ten years younger. you're living proof of your
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own -- >> i've never been hospitalized. i don't take any medications. and do i have a very vigorous body. and i compete with people who are half my age. >> you've never been hospitalized in your life? >> never. >> that's incredible. >> i don't take any medication either. i have never done so. >> do you get colds, flu, stuff like that or not? >> very rarely. i can't remember the last time i did. >> so what's the secret? because i'm always getting colds. i'm always getting the flu. i'm always breaking bones and stuff. why can't i be like you, deepak? >> you should come and spend a week with me at the chopra center for well-being. there's a science now. it's called -- piers there's a science. it's called genetic plasticity. it means the way you think, the way you feel, your personal relationships, your social interactions, and of course the quality of your sleep and how you manage stress. and if you have laughter and
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love in your life, that will actually change the expression of your genes. so there are about 500 genes that we have that call for things like inflammation. and inflammation seems to be the background in many diseases, including autoimmune diseases, chronic illnesses like heart disease, arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, bronchial asthma. you can change the activity of 500 genes within three months if you change your lifestyle. so you can turn on, dial up the good genes and dial down the bad genes. it's not the -- only 5% of disease-related gene mutations are fully penetrant. which means if you have them you can't do anything about them. the others are influenced by how we zbllive. >> fascinating. i want to take a short break, come back and talk about two particular stories in the news where it's become unhealthy. one obviously the very sad story
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of philip seymour hoffman and the general issue of addiction and the effect on people's lives and also the appallining mia fa woody allen story. anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three types of good bacteria. i should probably take this. live the regular life. phillips'. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cash card from capital one,
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john lennon ringo st i'm back with deepak chopra in the chair, the co-creator of "timeless you." let's talk about philip seymour hoffman, brilliant actor, life cut short due to his addiction to heroin. many people suffer from all types of addictions. it has catastrophic effects on their health and can even take their life. what advice do you give to people, particularly like him who had been addicts and clean for a long time but still wrestle with those demons? >> piers, first of all, addiction is the number one
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disease of our civilization. directly or indirectly, it's connected to all the other major epidemics of our time, whether it's cardiovascular illness or sudden death or suicide or overdose. and actually heroin is not the biggest problem, even though it is increasing as a problem. the number one cause of drug addiction today is medical prescriptions, legally prescribed by doctors. that's where we should address the problem first. it is a fact. now, having said that, people who are addicted, they have a stigma, they live in isolation. they have guilt, they have shame. they have fear. i think one of the things we have to do is simply legalize all drugs. first of all, it will cut down the -- what do you call it? the economy that goes with it. we'll have tax money to treat
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these people. but more importantly, they should experience some empathy from us. this is a disease. and unless there is compassion and empathy for those who are addicted, unless they feel comfortable in being with others, if they feel isolated like this, it is what causes the tragedy that happened. i knew michael jackson. i knew heath ledger. they all succumbed to addictive diseases and died of overdose. i think heath didn't even intend to die. he was just drinking and taking prescription drugs at the same time. he probably didn't even realize he had taken so much he would die. so this is a big problem in hollywood also. there there are doctors who initiate addictions for two reasons. it's a big economy and a lot of
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income for them, and also it's their identity to be with these physicians. it's a very complex problem with no easy solution. the chopra center has an addiction center outside of vancouver in canada, and we use treatments that substitute a different kind of pleasure, because you know, addiction is the memory of pleasure. >> right. >> even after you -- ultimately you can't have enough of what you don't want anymore. and you can't get rid of the memory either. so what you have to do is create a new experience of joy in the body, and we do that through meditation, through breathing techniques. >> deepak, i have to go to a break. we'll have a bit of time after the break to talk and get into this woody allen scandal and the effect that kind of rift has on families generally.
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back with deepak chopra. deepak, we can talk about this stuff all night long, it's always fascinating. but just quickly, about the woody allen scandal. many families suffer, not quite this kind of catastrophic fallout, but tensions and stresses within the family. you've got about 90 seconds to put all family ills.
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>> in woody allen's case, if the allegations are true, he's obviously a very tortured soul. if he wants to begin the healing process, he should admit to what happen, he should apologize to the victims, and he should ask for forgiveness and seek therapy. i believe he was actually beaten up when he was a child, and most people who are abusers have a history of abuse. is that should be looked into. and again, demons exist in everyone, and they surface when there is anonymity and permission to do harm, which is exactly what happened. those shadows will lurk in everyone. >> i always have to say when we talk about this, woody allen was never charged with any crime and he's obviously denied it. deepak, best of luck with the
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book. >> it's a program. >> it's a six-part online course designed to inspire the 45 plus office, to redefine age, maximize energy and find fulfillment every day. i will be logging in later, deepak, because i want to look like you when i'm 57, never mind 67. you're an inspiration just by being who you are. >> thank you, piers. >> that's all for us tonight. "the sixties: the british invasion" starts right now. love a good british invasion. >> there's the beatles! you're nothing but a bunch of british elvis presleys. >> not true, it's not true. the beatles arrived. from then on, a thousand different things arose. ♪ >> it's a sex thing? >> it's sexual, completely.
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