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but reacted quickly when he saw the panic in john's eyes. hi again, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. here are the top stories we're following in the "cnn newsroom." u.s. attorney general eric holder is about to make a major announcement on same-sex marriages. his plan and the impact it will have on millions of americans lives. in sochi, russia, the medal count climbs in the u.s. who's winning and who's on top of the tally board. and model carmen carrere until noticed just for her beauty and poise. she's breaking transgender barriers. we begin with a historic announcement in u.s. attorney general eric holder involving same-sex marriage in america. in a speech tonight hold letter
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announce the justice department's plan to extend the federal government's recognition of same-sex marriages even in the 34 sthats don't consider it legal. i want to go straight to cnn's erin mcpike. actually, let's go to evan perez on foent with us now. evan what do you know about mr. holder's speech tonight, and why tonight? >> well, hi, fredricka. the attorney general is doing a speech in new york with the human rights campaign, which is a group that has been obviously working on the same-sex marriage issue for some years, and the attorney general is saying that he plans to, on monday, the justice department plans to adopt new policies that would extend federal recognition of gay marriages, of same-sex marriages, in matters such as bankruptcies, visitation for prisoners. even in cases where, for example, right now if you're
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married, you don't have to -- you have the right to refuse to give testimony to incriminate your spouse, which is a right that a lot of -- you know, heterosexual couples already have. now that's now going to be extended to same-sex marriages as well. this is a big, a big announcement. it obviously affects millions of people, and it's something that the justice department has been working on for several months in light of the fact that the supreme court last year overturned the defense of marriage act which as you know, was the federal law that refused to grant federal recognition of same-sex marriages, fredricka. >> hmm. so, evan, help us understand, how will it be imposed on the 34 states that don't necessarily recognize same-sex xblargmarria? will it be an option or expectsed that those states would challenge this? >> well, this is only applying -- this only applies to federal jurisdictions. so if you have a federal court
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case. let me give you an example. a couple gets married in massachusetts, for instance. or in the district of columbia, where it's legal. then moves to alabama or mississippi, a place where they don't have same-sex marriage. the federal government will recognize those marriages, even if it's a case in alabama. as long as those people are legally married in a state where they -- where it is legal. so that's the wrinkle, and because this is all federal jurisdiction issues, the justice department has the right to do that. the states can't really -- this has nothing to do with their laws. this has to do with federal law. so you know, in states that don't have gay marriage right now, same-sex marriages, it doesn't change their law at all. >> evan perez. thank you so much for bringing us that. appreciate it. all right. yoer overseas, russian force aren't
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letting up on massive security surrounding the olympic games. russian force carried out a deadly flring. the source says the suspects were connected to a group linked to militants behind the deadly bombings in volgograd back in december. a spectacular start for team usa in sochi. they just got bronds bronze in the mogul thanks to skier hannah kearney. remember the name, sage kotsenburg claiming the first olympic gold in a game never seen in the olympics before. the run called too dangerous by fellow snowboarder shaun white. i wonder how much shaun will regret having not been in that or that's the way it goes. worked for him and not me. >> you know who's happy about
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it? sage. happy shaun white didn't compete in this. imagine this, fredricka. you train for years. countless practice runs. sage kotsenburg tried a move he had never even done before, tried it before before the final run. amazing stuff. when he came off the second ramp, kotsenburg pulled off what called a 1620 japan air mute graph. >> what is that? >> basically when you spin around 4 1/2 times in the air. he says he didn't even think about doing this move until right before he went on. >> insane. >> before my run i was like, hey, bill, this is the u.s. team coach. might do a 1620 japan. never done before, and i've never even tried it before. he's like, you're in the finals in the olympics. like, might as well go all-out. all right. i call might brother. might try a 1620 japan. hez like, really? my brother is like -- what? send it, i guess. like you're at the olympics. and i dropped in.
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this is, coming to the last drop, this is going too well. i got to definitely do the 1620, and i just threw it and half way through the air was like it's coming around perfect, and it ended up coming around just like the 1260 but a full 360 more. but it felt a little of the same feeling. i put my legs down right when i felt it, and it was unreal. i could not believe riding out of it that i larcnded that firs try. >> a pretty laid back guy, just 20. he tweeted this morning, whoa, how random. made the finals at the olympics. knew gold medalist. >> my favorite story 69 games and wet just got started. >> hard to top. tell you that. team usa won another medal in the ladies mogul competition. hannah kearney. a little disappointing. the favorite to bring home the gold, but ended up way bronze. at least she medaled. >> please. >> here's a look at the current
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medal count. norway, remaining in the lead with four medals. canada up to second after winning both the gold and sill xrer in the ladies mogul competition. netherlands, three medals. team uss a behind them. another great chance to add to their med many count tomorrow n bode miller competes in the downhill. the 36-year-old the favorite to win after recording the faftest time during the practice run. the course for the competition is called one of the most dangerous ever. after today's practice round miller said, if you're not paying attention, this course will kill you. and fredricka, he meant that literally. miller already owns a u.s. record five olympic alpine medals, trying to go out with a bang. expected to be his last olympics. 36 years old. hopefully doct hopefully -- fifth olympics games for him. hopefully. he said the secret, not trying to slow down. if you slow down you could be in
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trouble. he in his practice round west e went eastern faster. >> maybe that's the xrift of his longevity. >> hoping he can repeat that we're rooting for him. appreciate that, andy. much more on all of the olympic events, the winners, lose losers, highlights right here on cnn. and find all the results on cnn.com. a man on trial accused of killing a teenager in an argument over loud music. he claims self-defense, but did the teen have a weapon on him? hear what both sides are saying today. and the justin bieber has another run-in with the law. this time the feds are investigating. olive garden's best 2 for $25 yet is ending soon!
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carmen carrere is a rising star in the fashion world. more han 200,000 force on
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facebook and last year thousands of fans signed a petition trying to have her added to the victoria's secret fashion show. it sets her apart from most or fashion models is she's transgendered. >> i take selfies all day long. and little by little i was seeing my photos. wow. great. i look in the mirror and kind of see it, not really. but now it's like, i really see my angles. tell my husband, like, i'm kind of pretty. >> reporter: her name is carmen carrere. >> carmen carrere. >> [ speaking in foreign language ]. >> reporter: transgender knockout, and online petition started by fans. >> reporter: getting victoria secret to high them an their newest angel. >> a i knew in the back of my mind, i don't think it's going to happen but i decided i'm
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going to audition this year. i've reached out to victoria's secret. so, why not? it's 2014. >> reporter: our next guess, from miranda -- >> just one catch. >> meet the glamorous model who used to be a boy. >> your private parts of different now. aren't they? >> they always kind of just make it about, okay, well let's see your before. let's see your after and now what do your genitals look like? it doesn't really give trans people the proper credit when you're working hard and doing things that not a lot of other trans people have been able to do. i have, you know, a crazy amount of creativity. and i'd rather be respected for that. you know, rather than, oh, put on make jaup. we believe this? >> she definitely has a spark, and we saw -- we saw kindi crawfocindy crawford. daisy if a wend ez.
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jessica alba. the spread is for "glamour uk." >> it's my first, i guess, international magazine feature. it just goes to show that it's like, i'm a model. this is what models do. we pose in magazines all over the world and it's exciting, because i don't know too many transmodels that have done that. there's very few. >> carmen carrere. look at her now. everybody look the at her. she has a positive energy and goes out there and she's -- i know for a fact she's going to make history. >> the "victoria's secret" petition started, it's a validation. no matter how insecure i might be or unpretty i might feel, it's like, there are people out there that look to me to be strong. like, no matter what. i don't care if it's being trans or just latin. i'm proud of these things. just because it's not respected by some doesn't mean i'm not going to respect myself. >> carmen carrere, and it is the
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top story on cnn.com that has everyone interested. check out more on carmen carrera at cnn.com. closely behind there, an epidemic ob parts of long island. interest in heroin use is huge. users as young as 12 years old. in a minute, we'll meet some of them and their families. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ told ya you could do it. (dad vo) i want her to be safe. so, i taught her what i could and got her a subaru. (girl) piece of cake. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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final good-byes to academy award-winning actor philip s seymour hoffman. a public memorial is planned later on this month. the 46-year-old died last sunday after an apparent heroin overdose. heroin is an epidemic on long island, countering cease those addicted as young as 12. one in four become dependent upon it. here's poppy harlow. >> reporter: the first time chris shot up heroin he was too scared to do it himself.
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so his friend did it for him. when he was 16. >> i would shoot up mostly in my feet. >> reporter: how many bags a day? >> it escalated to almost five or six bags every time i shot up. >> reporter: he spent hundreds of dollars a day feeding his addiction. >> reporter: how do you get that money? >> stealing money from my parents. i was doing illegal actions with my friends. i broke in to houses. i've done all of the above, besides selling myself. >> reporter: heroin? my son? never. >> how did i not see that? >> reporter: did you feel like you'd lost your son? >> absolutely. i said, you look like christopher but you don't act like christopher anymore. >> reporter: chris is now 17, and in rehab full-time at outreach and adolescent treatment center. he survived heroin, but others in his community have not and these are the loved ones left behind. >> it's easier for them to get heroin than get a beer, and it's
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all over. and these kids are not afraid to use it. >> i'm furious. i think the reason why the price came down was because somebody's making a lot of money selling this. >> reporter: diane and robert's daughter was just 24 when she overdosed in her own bed. susan the daughter, a straight a student dead at 22. dorothy's son max 28, tara's brother paul, 19. >> how do you even put the pain into words? can you? >> no. there's just a nole my heahole . a part of my heart died the same day, and you just learn to live with it. >> reporter: addiction specialist jeffrey reynolds has seen a sevenfold increase in new patients in long island in the past five years. >> ten years ago if you used two two three bags a day considered a chronic user. for kids these day, that's breakfast. >> reporter: a crackdown on
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prescription drugs have had an ill-effect to pushing them towards cheaper more accessible whairn. here on long i'dland, heroin killed a reported number of people in the last two years and heroin arrested by the dea up 163% in just the last year. we're on the long island expressway, which has become a nane route for transporting heroin from new york city out to the suburbs and it's gotten so bad that some authorities have dubbed this the heroin highway. >> i've been in public health for 25 years, and i've never seen anything like this before. the migration to heroin has been wholesale in nature. >> our children are just like every other mother or father's child. and they're not junkies, and that term needs to change. >> reporter: there's a stigma they tell us that leaves many parents isolated in the battle to save their children. >> it can happen to anyone at any age. >> reporter: chris is proof of that. but 11 months of rehab have
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brought him to the other side in the fight for his life. >> did this place save your life? >> i feel that it did. i put myself in so many circumstances where i could have died. i'm not able able to say that i have different ways that i can manage my emotions, besides getting high. it makes me very happy and excited to go through my future. >> reporter: a future he'll begin in a week when he completes treatment and faces the challenge of staying sober. >> he says this place saved him. >> it did. it saved us, too. >> reporter: poppy harlow, cnn, brentwood, new york. so is heroin the next drug epidemic in america? joining me now is carl hart. an associate professor of psychiatry at columbia university and the author of high price, a book that looks critically as drug policies in the u.s. all right. so looking at those kids we just saw on long island. why would anyone decide to start thinking about even trying it
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once, when we've heard some folks who profess to be experts on the topic will say, you try it once, and you will be hooked? >> it's difficult for me to stop laughing at -- that is quackery. there's nothing in life that you try once and you are hooked. addiction bip definition means that it requires work. remember, back in the 1980s, 1986, 1985, 1987, we were saying the same thing about crack cocaine. try it once, you're addicted. the hysteria is what's happening now. we passed bad policies and a number of people's live was ruined. not so much by the drug but by the policies and hysteria. one of the things i'm trying to make sure we do is that we understand what's real, what's reality, and what's just hysteria. >> so what -- in the real category, is it real to you that
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it is an addicting drug? >> sure. alcohol is an addicting drug. tobacco, marijuana. all of these things can be an addicting drug. oh, absolutely. certainly can be. >> so in the real category, or maybe false category in your view, is it the case? we heard theories from some xmeerts say experts say, you start using heroin, you are not going to see 50. >> again i don't know where you get those experts from. whoever says that, perhaps maybe we shouldn't call them an expert. that's simply not true. if you look at -- let's just look in the united states. the number of people treated for heroin or what have you. we have a number of people who are on methadone. helping deal with their problem, people there range from the age of 21 to 75. >> so based on your expertise, what's the best way, or is -- i
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guess are there a set of best ways that you think this problem of heroin use, whether it be the age of 12 or 21 or 31 and 41, how do you tackle it? >> first of all, if you have a child like you all kind of showed in this clip beforehand, if you have a child at 12, 14, 16 doing heroin, you have bigger problems than heroin. people still have to parent. that's related to parenting. that's not so much a heroin problem. that's a parenting problem. we need to make sure we don't conflate bad parenting or parental issues -- >> then how do you thaep 12-year-old, bad parenting, but how do you reach that 12-year-old? >> i'd need to know a lot more about the 12-year-old. if a 12-year-old is using heroin, heroin is not that person's problem. how do you help that xbrern i need a lot more information. if somebody tells you a simple response how to deal with that 12-year-old heroin problem and focussing on heroin, you can
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before you somebody who is probably a quack. >> do you have worried the energies are not being placed in the right areas to tackle, to stem the problem? >> yes, i do. particularly when we think about why people are dying from heroin-related deaths, in this country. the vast majority of them die because they combined drug with another sedative like alcohol or benzodiazepine. 75% of the people. so you want to make sure people are not combining heroin with another sedative. that's one. another sort of concern i have is that, we need to make more available this heroin antagonist or this drug that blocks heroin's effects. if people have that available to them, they can inject that and it reverses the effects of heroin. >> all right. >> 85% of the people who die from heroin-related de death do in the presence of someone else, and that someone else could
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administer this drug that blocks heroin's effect. >> leave it there. dr. carl hart. thanks so much. just the tip of the iceberg. this conversation will continue. >> thank you for having me. a deeper look at the heroin crisis in america. next hour, join cnn the don lemon for a special report. "heroin: a century of seduction" right here on cnn at 4:00 p.m. inside a florida courtroom, a man accused of murdering a teenager during a fight over loud music claims self-defense. hear today's heated exchanges and testimony that could be critical to the case. copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance
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all right. bottom of the hour now. welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield. the top stories now. a big announcement coming from the u.s. attorney general eric holder on same-sex marriages. he's expected to announce tonight that he will extend federal recognition, even in the 4 states that do not consider same-sex marriage to be legal.
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holder also plans to say that the justice department will recognize the marriages to the greatest extent possible under the law. that means everything from bankruptcy cases and prison visitation to survivor benefits. a tennessee couple is facing murder charges for allegedly forcing the man's 5-year-old daughter to drink excessive amounts of water and grape soda. prosecutors say the liquid caused the sodium level in the girl's body to plummet and triggered fatal brain swelling. the couple is also accused of child neglect and child abuse. and woody allen is speaking out in a new op-ed for the "new york times." he says he did not molest his adopted daughter dylan farrow and blamed ex-girl friend mia farrow for coercing dylan to believe it. this comes after dylan wrote her own letter saying allen molested her as a 7-year-old girl. she responded today saying allen is rehashing lies he told 20 years ago and she will not be
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silenced. police investigated the allegations but did not file charges against allen. and the winter olympic games in sochi, and the u.s. has another medal on the tally board. hannah kearney skiing to the bronze in moggal moguls. and sage kotsenburg took the gold in a move he never did before. and a fight over loud music. the defendant claims self-defense. prosecutors say michael dunn opened fire into an suv full of teenagers at a gas station after arguing with them. tory dunn is koecovering the tr in jacksonville. what's the latest? >> reporter: lots of witnesses called to the stand. still have an hour and a half of court left to go.
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people calmed led to the stand include experts, those who dangered evidence and day two of a trial that showed emotion. >> when i reached and touched him, blood appeared on my finger. >> reporter: michael dunn, the man charged with first-degree murder looked on as witnesses relived the night the 17-year-old was shot and killed. davis' best friendlyland brunson among those who testified. he was sitting next to davis in the back of a red suv when an argument over loud music broke out at a jacksonville gas station. >> it's fair to say he asked for a common courtesy just to lower the music. correct? >> yes. >> reporter: another teen in the suv says dunn, in his parked car next to them, asked them to turn down the music. everyone agrees the music was turned down. but that's when things escalated between davis and dunn. >> isn't it true that jordan davis said to you, [ bleep ] that [ bleep ] turn it back up. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: thompson testified he did exactly that and turned the music back up.
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it's at that point the timeline gets fuzzy. dunn told investigators he heard threats. then saw a weapon. >> i saw a barrel come up on the window, like a -- a single shotgun where there's a barrel, and this part of the barrel, i saw that part of the barrel. either a barrel or a stick. but -- sir, there are like -- we're going to kill you. >> reporter: dunn by his own admission said he pulled out a gun he kept in his glove department and in self-defense -- fired multiple times. jordan davis was shot. as for michael dunn's claims of being threatened with a weapon first, police say they never found a weapon inside the teen's suv. in court, all three teens maintained they never had a weapon. all right. so, fred, one of the key moments in court people seem to be talking about today is when the lead prosecutor actually grabbed a gun, started showing it, and
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according to the detective testifying at the time, it was the same gun he found inside mike's dunn's car. that detective went to michael dunn's house, when they went to arrest him, his house, of course, is not even near jacksonville, but when they went to arrest him, the detective went to look at the car, parked in the garage, and that's where they found that gun, inside the glove compartment. it's the first time we've seen the weapon in court today and obviously there are a lot of questions about what was and wasn't found in his car, but also in the red suv that the teenagers were in. >> thank you so much. justin bieber is already facing charges in miami and toronto, and now the feds are investigating him. the federal aviation administration is looking into allegations that passengers on his charter flight from toronto to new jersey interfered with the crew. sources say he and his father verbally abused a flight attendant after she repeatedly asked them to stop smoking marijuana, and the pilots hl to wear oxygen masks to avoid inhaling the marijuana smoke.
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the relentless winter is taking its toll on the nation. the one thing many areas are now running low on and paying a big price on. you know him as the rough and tough patriarch of the orange county chopper's family. what you may not have known about paul tudal senior is he's a roving addict. dr. sanjay gupta shares his story in this week's "human factor ". >> reporter: grinding. blowing things up. and building bikes. it's what paul tuttle senior star of the show "orange county choppers" does best. there was a time tuttle's future didn't seem so bright. >> back in the day i kind of started early drinking and getting high and th you know, back then you think that that stuff's going to go away as you get older, and what it does, it
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gets progressively worse. >> reporter: as a younger guy, tuttle and his buddies hit the sauce early and auv. >> i could drink a quart of whiskey and lunchtime and go back to wart. >> reporter: it came down to a simple choice. live or die. >> i was pretty fortunate that you know, i was able to get in a 12-step program. i went nine years straight and ip was afraid to miss a meeting. >> reporter: he began to change, but his friends didn't. >> just because i stopped drinking didn't mean anybody else did, and the people -- everybody that i associated myself with drank, and drank hard. the first two years were -- it was really -- it was really tough. >> reporter: and the consequences were dire. >> i had a partner. he was 35 years old. i got sober. he didn't. he died the same year. >> reporter: that's why senior has now been sober for 29 years, continuing to share his story. >> after 12 years of tv, being
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california which is under a drought emergency, has been battling dry conditions for weeks now, but one area of the state is getting slammed with snow. check out the scene northeast of sacramento. near whiteout condition and several spinouts shutting down traffic there67% of california und eer extreme drought. they'll get rain this weekend. win the weather blamed for all problems. burst pipes slumping sales and it stretches nearly from coast to coast. here's ted rowlands. >> reporter: fred, this unrelenting winter is not only horribly painful to deal with it is also very expensive. out of business because of a broken water pipe. >> found water just all over the place, and --
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>> reporter: it is hard to imagine anyone more upset about this winter than the owner of roseal's italian co-chine nkach chick's little italy. >> he was crying. >> reporter: the unrelenting snow and freezing temperatures forced cities across the country to shell out thousands in y overtime play to plow streets and now many areas are running low on road salts for forcing crews to cut back or pay three times the price for the other white stuff now in short supply. >> really because of the lack of supply. >> reporter: several industries are feeling the effects of this winter. airlines lost an estimated quarter of a billion dollars, according to analysts. poor auto sales in the midwest, south and east are being blamed on the weather, along with some lower retail sales. [ speaking in foreign language ] eastern restaurants without broken water pipes are getting hit. [ speaking in foreign language ]
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at gyro mania in chicago's greek town, the opener says his business goes way down -- >> $11.87. >> reporter: during heavy snow or freezing cold. >> i might see about a 40% decrease from carryout sales. we deliver. so i see an increase. overall, about 25% hit. >> not a problem. >> reporter: consumers are also feeling the effects. >> you hit that pothole and the we'll bottoms out and you get a nice debit in the wheel like that. >> reporter: business at ashland tire and out oh in chicago that never been better. >> good for you guy, but you feel bad for the customers. >> absolutely. because we're humans, too. >> need a 2x10. >> reporter: roseal's is expected to be closed at least another month because of water damage. meanwhile, we all still have at least another month of winter. and, fred that 5 1/2 more weeks
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to florida now, inside the courtroom in jacksonville. a rare saturday session there. this is the case of michael dunn, who admitted to shooting a teenager in an suv because of loud music. now the trial is over whether he should be convicted for murder. this is the girlfriend now on the stand of michael dunn. that's michael dunn there. rhonda is on the witness stand. let's listen to the testimony. >> i'm showing you state's exhibit number 2. do you recognize that to be an overview of the gas station?
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>> yes. >> looking at state's exhibit 2, can you tell the jury which entrance you used when you got to the gate gas station? do you remember? >> i just don't know how to tell you. >> you can touch the screen and make a mark on it. >> i think we went in this entrance. >> for the record, it's the turn off south side boulevard showing on the screen. >> if you put pressure on there, you can draw a line with your finger. there you go. >> good? >> now, when you pulled into the entrance or when the defendant did, did he then park the car? >> yes. >> what was the reason for stopping at the gas station? >> to get a bottle of wine. >> whose idea was it? >> mine. >> i'm showing you state's exhibit 5. is that then, just the front
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doors of the gas station you stopped at? >> yes. >> this is now state's exhibit 7. can you show on this screen where the defendant parked his car? >> right there. >> in that first spot? >> yes. >> when the defendant parked in that spot, do you remember whether or not there was a car directly to the left of him? >> yes, there was. >> what color? >> red. >> okay, it was red. >> how close was the defendant's car to that car? >> pretty close. >> would the defendant have been able to get out of the car? >> i don't think so because his car -- his doors swing wide. it's a two-door. >> okay. >> is it a two-door? no, it's not, but they still swing wide. >> okay. when you pull into the parking spot, was your window up or
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down? >> my window was up. >> do you remember what the defendant's window was like on the drivers side? >> it was up. >> do you know if the back windows were up? >> they were up. >> when the defendant pulled into the parking space, could you hear music? >> yes. >> you could tell it was coming from that car? >> yes. >> from where you were sitting inside the car, could you hear the lyrics of the music? >> no, i couldn't make out the lyrics. >> could you tell what kind of music it was? >> yes, i could. >> could you hear the bass? >> yes. >> from ideas the car, was anything in the car rattling from the bass? >> no. >> did the defendant say anything about the music? >> yes. >> what did the defendant say? >> oh, i hate that dumb music. >> what was your response to the defendant. >> i said, yes, i know. >> what happened after the
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defendant parked the car? what did you do? >> i gave him a kiss. i took $20 and i went into the store. >> prior to pulling into that parking to spot, was it discussed who would be going into the store? >> no. >> when you got out of the car, were the windows in the black jetta, were they still up? >> yes. >> did you close your door behind you when you got out? >> yes, i did. >> could you tell whether the windows on the red suv were up or not? >> i paid no attention to the vehicle. >> could you tell whether or not the door was open? >> i paid no attention to the vehicle. >> as you were walking into the store, could you hear the music? >> i could hear words being said, but i couldn't make out the words. >> okay. while walking into the store, did you hear any sort of arguing going on?
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>> no. >> where did you go once you got into the store? >> i went over to the aisle where they have wine. >> now showing you state's exhibit 41. do you recognize states exhibit 41? >> i do. >> what do you recognize the two items to be? >> the items i picked up. >> okay. once you picked up the wine and bag of chips, where did you go? >> i was walking to the cash register. >> as you were inside the store, could you hear the music coming from the red suv? >> no. >> while in the store, could you hear arguing going on? >> no. >> as you were walking to the register, did you hear anything unusual? >> yes. >> what did you hear? >> i heard ahh, ahh, ahh. >> when you heard the noises,
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did you know what nerp? >> no, i didn't. >> did you know where they were coming from? >> no, i didn't. >> where were you when you heard that? >> i was walking -- the register kind of goes like, you have a long then the cash register is right here. so, i was kind of walking up the aisle and the clerk was standing there. >> were you at all paying attention to what was going on outside? >> no, i wasn't. >> what did you do when you first heard those gunshots? >> i said what was that? >> were you speaking to the cash ear in front of you? >> yes, i was. >> what did you hear next? >> when i heard another pop, pop, pop. >> what did you do after you heard the second set of pop, pop, pop? >> well, i didn't do anything.
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the cash ear said the guy has a gun. i turned around to see what she was talking about. >> your listening to the testimony of the girlfriend of michael dunn in the case of shooting into an suv full of teenagers. in the end, a 17-year-old boy was killed. 17-year-old jordan davis. you heard rhonda explain that michael dunn expressed right away he didn't like, in his words, i hate that kind of thug music. the music playing loudly from the suv. she went inside to buy wine and chips. that's when she heard the gunfire. we are going to continue to watch the trial there in jacksonville, florida. that's going to do it for me. i'm fredricka whitfield. a special report is coming up, heroin, a century of seduction.
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what if i told you there was something your son, daughter, neighbor or co-worker was more likely to die from than a car accident. something becoming more common every year, drug overdoses. the growing drug is heroin. an epidemic so tragic, so seemingly unstoppable a governor dedicated his state of the state to it. a drug after a century of seduction has this country in its grip like never before. maybe you are thinking, not in my town. if so, you might be wrong. let's talk about delray beach, florida. police seized more heroin in the first weeks of 2014 than the past decade.
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or chicago, a city that visits the e.r. from heroin overdose. >> taking out the young people, left and right. >> maryland where a toxic blend left 37 people dead since september. the same recipe killed 22 in the last week of january in pennsylvania. a 19-year-old user overdosed on that batch more than once but told cnn he and other junkies knew it was deadly and were seeking it out. >> somebody knows there's heroin bags out there killing people or making them overdose, we know they are the good bags. it's what everybody wants to do. >> good evening, i'm don lemon. thank you for joining us. this is a special edition of "heroin: a century of seduction." celebs like philip seymour
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hoffman. a drug where the number of addicts doubled between 2002 and 2012. can anything be done to stop this epidemic? i'm going to talk with three men that know more about heroin abuse than most. the vice president of public affairs one of the country's leading clinics. david cohen is a clinical person and david is author of "running with monsters." some of you i have spoken with before. david, you were in a coma for five years. you didn't go straight for three years -- five days, you were in a coma five days. you didn't go straight for three years. what was the thing that stopped you from coming clean initially? >> you know, i started using marijuana. because of risk factors in my
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life, i continued to use throughout. eventually, i progressed to opioids like pharmaceuticals and morphine. by the time i started heroin, on my 21st birthday, i was a full fledged addict. the coma was just a bump in the road for me. you know, i barely made it into adulthood. that was on my 21st birthday, on october 2nd. october 6th when i awoke, my brain was not fully functioning, i was in school, nothing was connecting. i was demoralized. i lost all confidence to move forward and went back to what i knew, getting high. >> it sounds like opioids, many people go from opioids to doing heroin. bob, you fought addiction for years, too. what kept you from coming back? why couldn't you kick it? >> well, i was, you know, i was kind of a spoiled, entitled,
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bratty kid and i just, with addiction, with my own addiction, it wasn't part of who i was. nobody could tell me anything. nobody could reason with me. i went to hazelton in 1980 -- '89, i think. i remember being the youngest person there thinking what am i doing here? there was no reality that could pierce my insanity. that's typical of a lot of addicts. >> william, i want to go to you now. switzerland gives addicts heroin to wean them off the drug. the public supports it. what do you think of that approach? >> i'm not an expert, don, on whether it's a good idea to use drugs to treat drugs as a
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societal problem. we have fought a war on drugs for 200 years. a war that's failed. whether it's opiates, marijuana or alcohol, we don't see it as a health problem. i feel that, you know, trying to embrace the problem as a health care problem and not a criminal justice problem or any other problem, but for what it is, a health care problem as a first step. how that then proceeds is really up to the individual who struggles with addiction and really up to the case managers, the doctors and the social workers working with those people. it's clear that addiction is a disease. it's treatable and recovery works. simply jailing people or simply giving in drugs in lieu of other drugs is really not a comprehensive or effective approach. >> you mentioned health care. part of obamacare is to offer
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counseling. how big do you think that is for addicts? >> it's a huge step in the right direction. as we talked earlier, addiction is a treatable illness. recovery is possible. your other guests recovered from it because of treatment. i have, too. not from opium, but alcohol and other drugs, including cocaine. gets insurance xwecompanies to cover it is a major step in the right direction in terms of approaching this problem for what it is. as i said earlier, it's a health care problem. through the affordable care act, the parody insurance act, we are seeing more and more people at hazelton and other facilities access addictions treatment using the health care shurnkaca. >> david, back to you, with everything you know, with all your experience, do you feel vulnerable to your addiction? we saw what happened recently
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with mr. hoffman. he went back into treatment because he felt he was going to somehow relapse or start using again. how do you -- do you always feel vulnerable? >> yeah. addiction is marked by an obsession of the mind, a physical allergy and underneath that is wrestlesness. i don't deal with the obsession to deal and drink and i'm not dealing with the allergy because it's not been in my system 17 years. on a daily basis, i need to keep in check or i will be vulnerable to return to active addiction. i'm by no means cured. the action steps i'm taking today to maintain my recovery. >> bob, i want to ask you, i have a -- i'm up against a break here but i want to ask you because we spoke before. when you look at this, people
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think heroin is back with a vengeance. people think it never went anywhere. maybe the public is reawakening to it. what do you make of that? >> i think this generation i'm dealing with in my treatment centers is tremendously vulnerable. the drug of choice or initial gateway drug was opiates. they stole vicodin out of their grandma's medicine cabinet at 15. the migration to heroin is not that big of a migration like david talked from marijuana through to heroin when you are 21. these kids are ripe for it. you know, i'm just shocked and surprised that it takes continuely the kind of celebrity death to get this subject talked about. it's an epidemic. it's killing our young people every day and -- and, you know, you are dealing with three people fighting the fight every
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day. it's -- it's really something. >> i think you are absolutely accurate. i look at the deaths, just people in the music industry who died over the years, allegedly from heroin, janice joplin, morrison, rudy morris, and on and on and on until now, 2014. so, it's happening there, it's happening in a larger culture. i appreciate you gentlemen. thank you very much. we are going to continue on and talk about heroin. it may not be the first thing that comes to mind when you think of vermont, but that state is facing an epidemic of abuse. that governor is joining us live to talk about what's happening there next. imagine if everything you learned led to the one job you always wanted. at university of phoenix, we believe every education- not just ours- should be built around the career that you want.
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think they will notice this. >> so, if anyone needed a wake-up call to this crisis of heroin addiction, they got one from vermont's governor last month. he devoted the state of the state address to heroin. since 2000, they have seen an increase in opiate addictions. 770%. numbers like that led the governor to describe the state as facing a full-blown heroin crisis. he joins me to talk about the crisis. governor, it's good to talk to you again. i wish it were better circumstances. we know the magnitude of this, unfortunately, it happened to philip seymour hoffman. many say you have been watching this coming for quite some time now, it's why you did it. you are proposing more treatment for addicts along with tougher laws. which is more important? >> it's all important. i think the death of philip
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seymour hoffman reminds us of this. we are talking a health care crisis that no one wants to talk ability. with it comes shame. you know, i think that together, collectively, we have to change the way we approach this disease. yes, it means tougher sanctions for dealers. enhanced penalties using weapons when doing a crime. what we have to change is the notion that we can just lock folks up and solve the problem that way. we know we can't. i think what you just heard from the folks that spoke earlier in the show, what we learned in vermont is we have to change the judicial system so that when people get caught, when they are ready to face their crisis, we can move them to treatment instead of prison. treatment makes the streets safer, gives them hope and a chance of what is a terrible and
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long struggle. they will always be facing the challenge of addiction. at least they can become productive members of society where they can rejoin us. >> when i hear people talk about it, especially parents, right, they all say the same thing, not my kid, not my johnny. there's no way they would do it. what do you say to someone that doesn't know an addict? they aren't an addict and don't want to see their tax dollars spent to help them. what do you say to them? >> you know, what i say is two things. talk about taxpayer who is have no connection to addiction, heroin or any other addiction. so i say, with your heads, we are spending your money on this crisis. we spend more taxpayer money on prisons than higher education. moving folks into a better educational opportunity, which leads to a better job. this affects jobs.
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taxpayers in vermont are spending twice what they spent nine years ago locking folks up. i can put someone in prison in vermont and i do. for 136 bucks a week, i can put them in treatment for heroin and other opiate addiction that works and gets them back, not committing crimes, making the streets safer and saving vermonters a ton of loot they are currently wasting on a prison process so when they come out, they are likely to reoffend. that's what i say to folks in their heads. with hearts, i say whether it's philip seymour hoffman or whether it's your neighbor or someone you don't know, you know, our common humanity should ask us to look at folks who are facing a disease that very possibly will kill them, certainly will destroy their life. we have an opportunity to interseed, get them treatment and get them hope and
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opportunity. >> you were hesitant to talk about this last time. i said hey, do you think it's a crisis across the country. you don't want to speak for the rest of the country, but you know it's in vermont. sadly, we have learned, everyone learned, it is indeed a crisis across the country. they should be following your lead. thank you very much. i appreciate you joining us on cnn. >> thanks very having me on. >> when an addict dies and a familiar family mourns wharks happens to the dealer. it's ahead. bulldog: what's this?
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some opiate type of pharmaceutical drug, versus $10 for a bag of heroin, that's what we see. >> the dealers know the bags add up. look at this heroin bust. $700 million worth. a fortune for whoever is selling it. for every shipment that gets caught, how many get through? that's the question. cnn reporters have been following this crisis in several states, in a pennsylvania clinic and new york city and the suburbs where one person described heroin as a natural disaster. i'm joined by rosa florez and alexander field. the young man who spoke in the beginning overdosed with heroin. he kept looking for it. that kind of addiction is hard to break and understand. tell us about your experience with that. >> we have to put it in context. this is in pennsylvania. these deaths, there were 22 deaths in a span of a week in
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the six counties in western pennsylvania and this was sental laced heroin. that means there was sental in what is sold as heroin in the stamp bags. the medical examiner found it was 50% feintal and 50% heroin. it's a narcotic 10 to 100 times stronger than morphine. so, what these rehab centers in pennsylvania started seeing was they were getting two types of calls, don. one from the older addicts who were afraid they were going to die because of what was on the streets and the second was for the younger addicts. you heard from a 19-year-old who pretty much overdosed on this laced heroin twice. it took his friend killing himself to actually scare him back into rehab. >> can you talk to me, alexander.
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noloxone can cure? >> it's an antedote. >> are users thinking about this? >> most users, if you ask, are you thinking about the risk or overdose, they are going to tell you, if they are considering that, it doesn't outstrip that need to use. i spoke to one young man in a rehab facility for the third time now. he's seen friends die of heroin overdoses. i asked him, how much of a factor was the fear? here is what he told us. >> i didn't think about overdosing, i just wanted to get high, you know? any means to get it or do it, i was doing it. >> he's a baby. he's -- >> he's 22 years old. he started using when he was 15 years old. he went from marijuana to prescription drugs and heroin when the prescription drugs were too expensive or too hard to find. >> it's been happening a lot.
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you went to pennsylvania. 22 deaths in a period of how long? >> about a week. >> from -- is it all because it's laced with this drug you are talking about? >> right, it is. one of the things the a.g.'s office is saying, we are on a manhunt. we want to find who is selling, distributing and dispensing this stuff. we want to prosecute. there's a statute that is drug results in death. if you sell, dispense, deliver this stuff and somebody dies, they are going to prosecute. they are going to find them. and the penalty is no more than 40 years. there's a stiff penalty attached to it. >> the question is, philip seymour hoffman, they arrested people immediately. around the country, when people o.d., it doesn't happen like that. why in his case and not other cases? is it going to change anything? >> something we have been talking about over the past week, why the attention on this case. it's the same reason you were
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talking about it up here. this is a case that is bringing attention to a big problem, a large problem. the hope is that this changes something in the future. we are talking about an antedote to heroin. can it be used more widely? we are seeing states trying to put it in use. here in new york city, a pilot program where police officers are becoming equipped with this life saving antedote. sometimes they arrive on the scene more quickly than the ems. in pennsylvania, i talked to a mom whose son died. i wish i would have known if i walked into a center and asked for this, she would have had it in her house. i would have had it in my house, if i would have known this would have saved my son's life. >> yeah. it's very interesting. as you were saying, the kids are so young it's happening to. it's not just young folks,
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