top of the hour, everyone. i'm don lemon in the "cnn newsroom," and thank you for joining us. we will begin with tense moments inside of a florida courtroom. it is the trial of michael dunn who is the admitted shooter of a teen who was shot and killed over a dispute over loud music at a gas station parking lot. in day three of the testimony, the fiancee took the stand called as a witness by the prosecution. >> when the defendant pulled into the parking space, could you hear any music coming from

the red suv? >> yes. >> you could tell it was coming from that car? >> yes. >> from where you were sitting inside of the car, could you hear any of the lyrics of the music? >> no sh, i could not make out lyrics. >> could you tell what kind of music it was? >> yes sh, i could. >> could you hear the bass? >> yes. >> from inside of the car, was anything in the car rattling from the bass? >> no. >> did the defendant say anything about the music when he parked the car next to the red car? >> yes. >> what did the defendant say? >> oh, i hate that thug music. >> and what was your response to defendant? >> i said, yes, i nknow. >> and as you were walking to the register, did you hear anything unusual? >> yes. >> what did you hear? >> i heard, pop, pop, pop. >> and when you heard those noises, did you know what they were? >> no, i didn't. >> did you know with where they

were coming from? >> no, i didn't. >> and i want to bring in now cnn's torii dunham outside of the courthouse in jacksonville, florida, and you know, dunn's fiancee had a whole lot to say, and called by the prosecution, and it appears that she was not on her fiancee's side and not helping his case. >> you know, don, she really did have a lot to say about this, and you know, the one thing that has come up quite a bit the in court is the fact that they left the scene of the shooting, and never called police. the fact that they went to the h hotel instead of calling the police, and that they ordered pizza, and she testified that she ordered the pizza because her stomach was upset, and they went to the hotel sitting by the elevators thinking that the police were coming, a they still never called 9111, and then they went to bed overnight, and this is what happened in the morning and also when she eventually

talked to the detectives. >> when you woke up, was the television on? >> yes, it was. >> did you happen to see something on the news? >> yes, i did. >> at this point in time did you learn that a teenager had been killed at the gate gas station? >> yes, i did. >> did you then tell the defendant that you wanted to go home? >> yes, i did. >> and why did you decide that you all needed to go home? >> because i thought that i was going to be arrested, too, and i wanted to get charlie taken care of. >> and did you tell them that it was your fault for going home because of what you testified today? >> yes, i did. >> all right. so don they mention charlie, and charlie is the dog they had with them, and apparently they had a brand new puppy with them at the h hotel, and she testified that

she wanted to bring the dog back home so they could get everything settled with him, because she felt like that the police were going to come calling which is what happened. >> my goodness. unbelievable. thank you, tory dunnan, and we will have much more on this case when we speak to a criminal attorney and a psychologist about the emotional testimony, and you don't want to miss that. and this weekend, there is a landmark movement that is going to impact same sex couples in all 50 states. attorney general eric holder is going to give a speech tonight that he will say that as far as the government is concerned, same-sex marriages will be recognized as the same as marriages and that means even in states where couples cannot legally get mar ariemarried. >> don, attorney general eric ho holder is going to highlight the

gala at the waldorf. this is going to be an extension to extend rights to same sex couples in all statesen those who do not recognize their marriage right now. obtained to the parts of the speech obtained by evan peres, holder will say that just like the civil rights movement in the 1960s, this nation's struggle for lgbt equality could not be higher. as attorney general, i will not let this department be simply a bystander during this important moment in history. what this will do is to give same sex couples the same legal rights of all married couples which means that if somebody refuses to testify in a case against his or her fault, there is not going to be an objection even in those states that do not recognize same-sex marriages and the full rights will be extended

to couples in bankruptcy cases in every state. the number of states effected is not down just one, but 33 when the new law goes into effect in illinois. >> thank you sh, erin. to north korea now, and disturbing details in the detain the knee kenneth bae. he was accused of bringing down the government after leading a tour group there and was sentenced to hard labor. he spent time in a labor camp, but he was moved to a hospital when he was moved. and the president also asked for prayers for him as the case is ongoing. and now he has attracted a new social media campaign, and just in the last hour, i spoke with b bae's sister terri chung and asked how the wide support of americans could help her

brother's release, and she says that she got news that he has been removed wac to the labor camp. >> it is a roller coaster, and it is one day that president obama is showing his support, and commitment, and the next day we learn that kenneth is moved to the labor camp, and so we are discouraged and concerned. i do believe that a ground swell of support from the american public will make a difference in allowing everyone to advocate for kenneth and make sure that he can come home soon. >> and you can join the social media campaign to free kenneth bae and follow the official twitter account at bring bae back. team usa won the first gold today at the olympics in sochi, but the u.s. has its work cut out for it if the team hopes to come home with the most medals. let's look at the medal count.

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parking lot. in the trial, we heard from witnesses including the defendant's fiancee. i want to bring in holly hughes and jeff gardere. i want you to hear the part of the testimony as she is being cross-examined by the defense. >> and you were married? >> yes. >> and you said you had to leave because you had to take care of charl charlie? >> yes, sir. >> and you said three or four, and did he go to the bar that many times to get drinks? >> no, i think that he drank them. >> and the drinks in red solo cups? >> no sh, this size. >> and it was bar service and not pour your own. >> that is correct, sir. >> and in that respect, and do you and mr. dunn have alcoholic

beverages when you go out to dinner? >> yes. >> do you enjoy them on weekends? >> yes, we do. >> and based on what michael dunn drank ta day. >> yes. >> and based on the knowledge with him, did he seem impaired the slightest bit by alcohol? >> none at all. >> and you had no concerns about getting in the car with him? is. >> absolute ly not, sir. >> you had no concerns about him making judgments? >> absolutely not. >> and if you did, you would have had someone drive you home? >> exactly. >> okay. so first to you, holly, we l listened to the prosecution, and they called her and we heard that testimony a bit ago, and this is the defense here. what is the defense trying to prove here, because to me, it does not seem that she is helping him. >> well, she is being truthful, and in being truthful, it is not helpful. they are grasping at straws, don, because the defense is trying to say that he was not so impaired so much so that he could not make a proper judgment or seeing things or when he says that he saw a weapon that

because he was so drunk he does not know what he is talking about. >> does it matter what the frame of mind is that i want you to turn your music down, because it is not acceptable to me, and i hate that thug music, and so what does it matter if he is impaired or not, because his own normal frame of mind, and maybe i should ask you that, his own normal frame of mind seems to be out of the ordinary with most people, doctor. >> i think so, too. and what they may be trying to get to with this alcohol is that as we drink, we know we have lower impulse control, and we tend to act out the impulses more, and we tend to say things to people that we normally wouldn't, and they are saying here that alcohol didn't have thinking to the do with this, but e think that the fact remains that he got into an argument with a bunch of kid s that didn't need to happen. again, if he was so afraid for his life, why even open your mouth in the first place and get involved? >> well, let's talk about it, because as she is giving the testimony to the defense which is trying to help the case of

the man who shot the teenager, right? she is not helping. and you can see the wheels, and you can see it turning in her head. >> absolutely. and let me tell you what i am reading here with rhonda rouer, and just like zimmerman's wife found out, and boy, she got abused with this guy, and she didn't know that he was so dangerous and violent, and the same thing, and i'm reading it in rhonda rouer, and yes, she is trying to give the al bye as to why they went to the hotel and left the scene, but you can see that this is a woman who is in above her head she realizes with this individual, and see seems like a sweet person, and so she did not bargain for being with a man who has such low impulse control that he is going to end up shooting someone even if he feared for his own life. >> and so even though they are planning, and they were talking about the wedding went off without a hitch, and they had gone to a ed withing and

whatever, and you don't think, oh, no, he was in the wrong? is that happening in her head? >> well, she was absolutely surprised when she was in the store and heard the pop, pop, pop, and she was like, what is that? and why did it happen? that is what i keep seeing from her that why did this happen? >> and holly, this is your bailiwick and what you did for years. >> right. >> and you still do it. >> yes. >> and does his fiancee, and the testimony help or hurt him? >> it hurts him. and here's why. she's called by the prosecution, and, don, she is absolutely telling the truth. it is like dr. jeff was talking about that you see the conflict on her face when the defense attorney is trying desperately to mitigate things, and he is going, oh, but he went to the bar, three or four times, rig? and he didn't actually get three or four drinks and that long what we call the pregnant pause where she does not want to tell this jury that this guy has problems, but no, he drank them,

sir. so this is a beautiful, beautiful witness for the prosecution, because she does want to be there. she doesn't want to be giving the jury this, and this is not somebody who was in the vehicle who, well, they are his friend or maybe embellishing, but this is his fiancee, and this is a woman who knows him better than anybody, and she is having to admit he says things that are inappropriate, and he writes things that are inappropriate, and he has habits that maybe led up to this. it is an inside glimpse of her better than anybody can show that jury what is in that man's mind based on all of his past words and past actions, and she is excellent for the prosecution. >> and you are saying all of this, but in florida, with stand your ground, one never knows. you really never know. >> oh, my goodness. stand your ground. >> and sadly, that is true, don. very sadly. >> and thank you, guys. appreciate it.

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subway's big announcement, the company removing an ingredient

from the fresh bread they bake, and that ingredient is used in yoga mats and shoes. well, subway which bills itself as the fresh alternative says that the change was already in the works even before the petition was launched this week and i want you to take a look at what a food blogger did to drive home her point. >> i love yoga. it is so amazing for your body and stress and well-being, but it is really does make me hungry. h hmm. wake up, people. >> you don't know where that mat has been, with but that is the creator of foodday.com and joining me now. i thought that you would eat it live on national television, but you didn't. >> well sh, i already had to ea both, all four corners of the mat to get that shot, don, and so not again. >> and you are going to hate me, because i am going to talk about the chemical and i used to be a part of yoga nation and i stopped, and i still meditate,

but no yoga. so let's talk about the chemical, and what exactly is it, and how does it affect our bodies? >> well, this chemical is called azodicarbonamide and you will find it in the the breads in canada and america, and the rest of the world will ban you or fine you $500,000 for using it. that is because the chemical when it is heated degrades down into a compound that is carcinogenic, and the world health organization has deemed it as a asthma trig, and it can cause skin and eye irritation the, and it is a dangerous chemical used in the bread. >> so this is not just about the -- i know that a lot of people are going to get mad at me, b me, but the scam that is organic or all-natural, because this is not about that, right this is. >> well, it is actually, organic breads are not allowed to have this chemical.

>> and okay. so people talk about the organic, and the natural and all that, and there is nothing wrong with science, and that is why pasteurization, and that is science, and it helps, so every chemical in the food is not necessarily a bad chemical, but you say that this one in particular is, and it should not be in there. >> that is right. you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that you should not eat plastic. it helps with the elasticity of bread and really for the appearance and line the bottom line of the pocket that the big food industry giants like subway, and they were using the chemical, because it is cheaper for them to produce the bread faster, and so it is a great thing that they have decided to finally decided to take this ingredient out after me writing and it for over two years. >> all right. well, is it just about bread? what else, again? many other foods, right? >> well, that is right. it is in mcdonald's, wendy's, arby's, and in thomas' english bangles, and sara lee, and all over the place, and really the fda should look at at

eliminating this ingredient from the food supply. >> and so why, we were talk thing again that you said that there are carcinogens in the food, and subway is removing it, and different things, so why is the fda say it is fine, because it is used in foods all over the u.s. >> yeah, you know, unfortunately the fda is not really regulating our food, and it is definitely not regulating this specific chemical. they have no studies on file as far as how this chemical affects the humans, so i dop know how they can approve the chemicals for use in the food supply without any studies. it is sad that the type of ingredients go unregulated, but the food industry is in the pockets of the fda and that is probably why. >> let me tell you that everything that you should have eaten that yoga mat with steak sauce or soy sauce and mix it together, everything tastes better. i am having fun with you. good on you. thank you, vani hari. >> thank you, don. appreciate it.

>> it is called the foodbabe.com, and i have been retreating you, so i will talk to you on twitter. okay. just ahead on cnn, woody allen is breaking his silence firing back at decades' old allegations that he molested his young daughter, and what he says is behind the allegations, and reaction from his young daughter next. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order. good news. i got a new title. and a raise? management couldn't make that happen. [ male announcer ] introducing fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex.

>> we have all been captivated by the tale of the mysterious castway who said he spent a year at sea before being found on the marshall islands, but his ordeal of eating raw turtles has left him in bad shape. and so miguel marquez who is there, how is he doing right now? >> well, a little better. look, he got off of the boat, and they hydrated him quickly, and he swelled up, and then he started to have problems with

the liver function, and his kidney function and electrolyte balance and then they got him hydrated again, and now he is in much better shape, and now he has one more medical check to go, and that tomorrow, as soon as monday night here marshall island time, he could be headed home for el salvador. d don? >> where is he? >> well, we believe that he is now in an undisclosed location, a and he was at the marshall islands resort hotel and keeping up the pretense of him being in the hotel, and the public attention, and the press has been too much of him and the contingent on the island and there is nothing on the island that happens that everybody does fot know quickly, so this is extraordinarily big news for this place, and he is now at an undisclosed location to stay until he has the final medical checkup to board the plane for long, but not quite as long journey home. >> i wanted to ask you where he

was going next, and you said boarding a plane tomorrow for you believe home. sgr yes, we believe he is going to stop in honolulu, and then through the u.s. somewhere to transit back to el salvador, and we know that there is a diplomat from the el salvadoran em bbass in japan, because they have no representation here in the marshall islands, and he has come here in order to ease his way back, and we know that the diplomats from the marshall islands and the u.s. and el salvador and mexico have been instrumental in helping this guy so he can get back home and be repatriated with his country, and we know that the press attention, and the relations in el salvador are desperate to see him again. and we know that the family of ezekiel cordova who died one to four months into the journey, they want to hear from him as well, ap they want to know exactly what happened to their son. don? >> all right. thank you, miguel marquez, and we ap appreciate that and best of luck to him. and woody allen says he did

not molest his adopted daughter, and he is talking back in "the new york times." he blames mia farrow to coercing dylan into believing that he molested her. but dylan wrote her own letter saying that she was molested as a 7-year-old child. but now allen is saying that she is rehashing lies that have been told for years. alex field has more on the ugly family battle. >> reporter: allegations that made news 20 years ago back in the headlines today, and woody allen saying that i did not molest dylan and i loved her, and i hope that one day she will grasp how she has been cheated out of having a loving father, and exploited by a mother more interesting in the festering anger than her daughter's well-being. and a rebuttal of her says that woody allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim closet attic on the second floor of our

house, and then he sexually assaulted me. and allen blames mia farrow's bitterness over the separation and when he had adopted her, took immediate aim at him. and this op-ed is the same rehash of the legalese and outright lies he has leveled at me for 20 years. the abuse first surfaced when allen and mia farrow split after 12 years together. the connecticut prosecutors denied to charge allen, because they felt that dylan at 7 years old was a fragile witness, and they called her, e quote, coached. >> the reason of dropping this case by the author is is purely and solely because they have no chance to win it. >> reporter: and allen fought for custody, but mia farrow was granted custody, and they said that allen had no parenting skills and that his own therapist believed him to be inappropriate

inappropriately inappropriate with 7-year-old dylan. and then the allegations of his other adopted daughter, and then he quoted emily dickins, the heart knows what it wants, and then he married her five years later. alexander field, new york. and thank you. and let's move on to talk about the beatles arrived in america 50 years ago and rock and roll has never been the same since the british invasion, and there was a famous little ditty that you might recall. let's listen. ♪ there is a house ♪ in new orleans ♪ they call the rising sun ♪ and it's been the ruin of many a poor boy ♪

♪ and god i know i'm one >> well, look at who is here, little bit older and a little bit more handsome and a little bit wiser, and i'm talking about the lead band member of the legend and the animals, and eric p burrdon, and we hang out up at the apollo, and you said that you hated it, being it a part of the british invasion. why is that? >> well, e didn't hate being a part of the british invasion, but i hated the expression "british invasion" in a world of peace and love, and now we have got an invasion a british invasion? it just at the time it didn't sit right with me, and now all is forgiven and i'm sorry, you know, because my expression, it was my feeling, and expressing my feelings at the time.

>> as i recall the interview, you said that you were unhappy about the costumes and you didn't like being so outfitted and being so put together and managed, right? >> oh, we weren't managed, we we were mismanaged to hell, and we had a guy who was giving us, getting us the worst possible deals, and putting us in the worst situations, but he was running around making his own deals, and i'm sure making money while we were out and the road pound i pounding away, and trying to get, you know, trying to preach the word of the blues to people. >> yes, because you -- >> and we found that -- yeah? >> sorry to cut you, but you were more, and you wanted to do mus music. and you said that you were influenced by soul music and r&b and jazz and american artists and especially the black artists here, and do you think that in many ways people were trying to sort of make you homogeneous,

and sort of manufacture you to be like the beatles, and for the british invasion to be everyone sort of alike? >> yes, we were dressed like little dolls, and they dressed us up in the most strange costume, and they were even going to bring this a choreographer to show us how to move on stage. i mean, it was ridiculous. it was something that was so far away from our nature, and, yeah, we were just pushed around and told, when you arrive in america, don't mention the war. you can't say anything about the war. and, you know, we felt that we were being gagged. >> yeah. >> it wasn't a very pleasant situation. once we got on the road and we met people like young americans in the south in particular who would talk to me in between show

shows and say, oh, we are so glad that you came, you know, we have been waiting to cut loose and feel freer in the society, because of, you know, coming out of the '50s and into the early '60s, there was nothing but the fear and the terror of communist invasion, and we had the bay of pigs and all of that stuff that was going on, and it must have been a very happy free environment. it took ages for us to get it over that. >> and you wanted to talk more about social change rather than being sort of marketed. i understand that. i think that many people respect you for that, especially, because you went on the have success with other bands after that. but can we talk about something a little bit more serious now, and, because i know that this is important stuff for you. when you and i last spoke, we

talked about the death of jimi hendrix, and the heroin overdose, and you saw him in the last days, and this week, we are mourning the death of actor philip seymour hoffmann and maybe it is not making a comeback, but why do you believe it is coming back with talented actors and musicians, and other people who are not famous? >> well, it is very hard for me to equate jimi hendrix with heroin, because he was a bright person personality. he was, yeah, he was into what people now call drugs. i don't think that you can call marijuana and things like lisurgic acid drugs, and they were things that we were experimenting with, but i was

not around him for 18 months to two years leading up to the demise. and i was silly enough to go on television and give my personal opinion of what i saw the morning after he'd been taken away to the hospital, pronounced dead on arrival at the centenary hop in london, and so he was dead when he left the place, his girlfriend's place, and it was a monumental tragedy, but to me, what i am not a forensic scientist or detective, but walking into a room where my friend had been lying this a bed so long that i could see the indentation in the mattress and finding a note by the side of the bed crumpled on the floor, and i read it, and it is the story of jesus, and it is so easy to explain and as they

crucified him a woman took his name. and elongated stuff about christ and i believe i really believe that in his head, he was having a jesus fe e no, ma'am na, moment, and a well known thing. -- phenomena moment, and sit isa well known thing. and people are so close that they are having a christ-like experien experience. i believe that is what happened to him. i went on the tv and tried to make it get across and they crucified me on tv, and i never quite got over it. >> well, i am sorry that happen happened to you, but i think that you bring about a very good point that you say that people who are using the drugs, think that they are having a moment where they are close to the maker, and they rob bli in some way want to get closer to the maker and keep using more drugs, and that is a sad thing. eric burdon and i bow down the

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it is hard to host your own farewell with party, and just ask jay leno. mr. comedy shed a few tears as he signed off of the "tonight show" and the most emotional moment came when he addressed the audience. >> i want to thank you sh, the

audience. you folks have been just incredibly loyal. we wouldn't be on the air without you people. effectively, this has been the greatest 22 years of my life. >> ah. i want to bring in social commentator the samantha shocker live from los angeles, and everybody is talking about leno's last show, and not all tears, but some singing and dancing and some laughs, right? >> yes. i loved the sing along at the end. it was a "sound of music" parody and i thought it was fantastic and who better to be the orchestrator of all of it than billy crystal. it was fun to see the different celebrities partake from oprah to jack black, but carol burnett was the best one to come out, and the crowd went wild and she even did the tarzan yell, and that did elevate the gravity of the moment that it is the end of a moment, but he definitely

ended on a high note. no pun intended. >> and it was said that i have to tell you and it is going to show my age, that the last time i watched the "tonight show" bette midler was saying good night to johnny carson, and people loved leno, and he was number up with for a long time. >> and oh, yes, okay. >> and let's talk about sochi, and on the way, there have been a few distractions, and there is a twitter handle calling at sochi problems, and some of the pictures are hard to believe. curtains falling down in the rooms of one of the cnn colleagues and signs that ask you not to put toilet paper in the toilet, and mattresses brought into the hotels late into the night, and then this american bobsledder johnny quinn got stuck in the bathroom, and they had to break through the

door, and what do you make of all of this? >> well, it is incredibleable hulk style, the there, and that not acceptable, and it should not be the living conditions of the olympic games, because russia has said they have spent seven years building up the venue, and spent $50 billion, and where is the money gone? this is the most money that any olympics have spent in history, and it is not acceptable, and no partitions in the bathrooms, don. so competitors are literally using the restroom right next to the competitive athletes. >> and the government is saying, no, no shg, no, the u.s. journas are making this up. >> well, thank you for the social media to provide that spotlight on the reality and the real tone of what is going on in sochi with the living conditions. it is funny that you brought it in, because even the official twitter account of sochi 2014 which has less followers than the sochi problems one are

painting a much different picture. >> thank you, samantha. and thank you for speaking about jay leno, and cnn is going to take a look at his career in three minutes.

-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com america's late night leader, going out on top. >> thank you, folks. >> a winner. that is jay's legacy. >> the journey. from comedy club kid to the throne of king johnny. >> the young man's name is jay leno. >> the rivalries -- >> i love letterman. he is great. nip at my heels, and make me work harder. >> and the triumphs. >> what the hell were you thinking? >> and the jay you didn't know. >> and probably more sensitive than people