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in every sporting event screaming ugly things at players, there would be nobody in the stands. look at what's going on at duke. they call him cameron crazy. they are glorified idiots out there. and they are considered the cream of the crop. >> so just ignore it. okay. >> just ignore it. >> you mentioned that he's expected to speak at a news conference next hour. i want you to come back in this hour at 6:00 and come back to talk about that. so listen, let's talk about, can we move on to talk about tiger woods? all right. we'll talk about that later. we'll do that next hour when you come back and talk about the news conference. we've got to get to the top of the news. we have series news. you're in the cnn newsroom, the top of the hour. this hour we are fast-forwarding to the week ahead and what you are looking at with stories and hearing about in the coming weeks and we'll begin with our five questions for the week ahead. all right. question number one, what's being done to find a missing new york man last seen on a
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motorcycle in a desperate part of mexico? harry duvayer was traveling in an area known for deadly clashes between drug cartels and vigilante groups when he sent a chilling text message to his girlfriend. alexandria is here, you are tracking the search. what are u.s. officials doing right now to find hard sfli. >> this is an area of mexico that the state department warns tourists shouldn't travel to. what state department officials tell us they are able to do is launch a social media to facebook and twitter. this is particularly concerning because harry was in a dangerous part of new mexico and sent a text message to his girlfriend saying he had just had a military escort because he was in the area too dangerous for him to be in. that was the last that she or he heard from him back on january 25th. and he had, in fact, said to her that day he was planning on
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calling her or texting her later that night. >> that's what u.s. officials are doing. what about in mexico, nick valencia? >> i got got off the phone with the equivalent of the attorney general's office there and they say the search is ongoing. to be frank, we don't know how legitimate this military convoy is as alexandria mentioned, this is a dangerous part of mexico. parts of it, anyway. where sometimes they dawn military gear and put on the fatigues and pass themselves off as officials when actually they are not. so that's going to be a main point here is trying to figure out this army convoy that escorted him out. john? >> the question is, i'm sure people are going to say, and me as well, a lot of people go missing. a lot of people go missing every single day. who is harry duvayer and why is this missing person so much more important because people go missing all the time?
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>> the concern is the area he disappeared in. this is giving people concern about his safety. he's a 32-year-old new yorker who quit his job in finance to travel the world. he has traveled extensively in the past so he sort of has his wits about him, he's savvy when traveling, but in this case something has gone horribly wrong. he planned to go from mexico to south america and eventually down to the south pole. this was something he was trying to do full-time. he was adventurous and has traveled the world, but he's always in touch with them during his travels or let them know that he would be out of pocket. >> you heard what alexandria said because of the part of mexico, what makes it so dangerous? >> the travel advisory from the state department which essentially they are not allowed to go there, and if you're an american or someone else who happens to get caught up there, the likelihood of them going in to help you out is very slim. as you know, don, i covered the drug war for a number of years for cnn.com, and a lot of the stories we followed came out of
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this area. when the former president of mexico launched the drug war back in 2006, he initially sent 10,000 troops into his home state here, you have seen vigilante groups pop up, the night's templar that is now resolved, this is a place you need to know where you're going or have a sense of safety in your surroundings, which were not clear if this one american that is missing, if you understood the conditions, he was going into. john? >> question number two now, is atlanta about to get winter slammed again? it's not even two weeks since a rare ice and snowstorm triggered a monumental disaster around the city. thousands of kids stranded overnight in their schools or spent the night on school buses. city officials were overwhelmed, underprepared and now another storm is coming in a couple of days. in a few minutes, or just a few minutes ago, i talked to a weather expert on a brand new
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task force that is trying to avoid a repeat. >> this is a whole different ball game here. what we had two weeks ago was a minor event. this is likely to be a major event, a rain mixing with snow and sleet. then you're going to have freezing rain changing to rain back to freezing rain. it is going to be a major event. there's a big, big difference here. it's going to be a much longer duration event. two weeks ago we had some snow, but this could be 30-plus hours of wintry precipitation across georgia. with that in mind, we just got off the meeting from the national weather service, the folks from the georgia emergency management agency, the people from the georgia department of transportation, and this time we've had the local meteorologists involved, we've had the school superintendents involved in this decision-making process. and i think being on the same page with everybody getting the same information is going to be key to how we respond. >> okay.
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so very simply, glenn, are they ready? and your task force l the task force be ready as well? georgia officials, emergency responders, everyone? >> the task force is ready to go. but we really don't know which areas are going to need the most response. question number three now, are iranian ships really heading close to the u.s.? and if so, why? seni senior iranian officials say they are sending the ships there to send a strong message. barbara starr is joining me on the phone now. barbra, let's get right to it. iranian ships are heading to the news. >> well, don, i have to tell you, i talked to u.s. military officials all weekend long. and they tell us they have no information, no intelligence at this point that shows them, that iran has warships headed to the u.s., towards that 12-mile offshore limit where international waters begin. iran made this claim back in 1
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2011 before saying they were going to do it, but can they really send their ships thousands of miles away towards the u.s. for an extended period of time? that's a pretty complex operation. it takes a lot. there's very few indication that is the iranian navy would be capable of such a deployment. and u.s. officials make the point, international waters, as long as they stayed 12 miles offshore, just like the u.s. navy, legally, they could go anywhere they want if they could get there. don? >> barbara starr reporting, thank you very much. question number four, will michael dunn learn his fate this week? testimony has been tense and fast-moving in his high-profile murder trial in florida. fighting back tears and visibly shaking on the witness stand, his fiancee testified giving jurors her account of what happened after jordan was fatally shot after the night of
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loud music. >> did the defendant say anything about the loud music after he parked his car next to the red car? >> yes. >> and what did the defendant say? >> i hate that loud music. >> what did you hear? >> i heard pop, pop, pop. >> and when you heard those noises, did you know what they were? >> no, i didn't. >> when you woke up, was the television on? >> yes, it was. >> and did you see who was on the news? >> yes. >> and at that time did you learn that a teenager was killed at the gas station? >> yes, i did. >> although it lists upcoming witnesses, testimony will continue tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. if convicted, dunn faces life in prison. we'll have much more on the testimony a little later on in this hour, including the possible fallout from her comments. how will eric holder's comments on same sex marriage echo in the week ahead? last night in new york the attorney general said his new mandate to all federal employees
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is that straight and same sex couples who are legally married will be treated equally. that means all federal benefits, privileges and rights will be applied to all married people, even in the 34 states where same sex marriage is not yet allowed. i talked with our regular contributors about it just a few minutes ago. and for once they actually agreed with each other. >> i don't think much different is going to happen next week because of holder's comments. this is just one more federal benefit that the obama administration is extending to same sex couples. this is what they said they were going to do, this is what they are doing. it is the reality of the world we live in today. gay marriage is here to stay. deal with it. it is not going anywhere. gay couples, gay families are part of america, they deserve the same protections as every other american. >> i can remember being a reporter, a young reporter back in 1998, when news had broken that matthew shepherd was
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murdered in the fashion of which he was hurded, a hate crime. and i remember thinking then how difficult it was going to be for the american culture to accept lgbt people without this sort of violent reaction. and that was in 1998. and slowly over time we have got on the the point now in which we are now discussing equal protection of the raw, at least in the federal level. i think this is a tremendous step forward. we cannot get complacent, though, if we look at what happened in india, if we look at what happened in australia, just because one administration has made moves to the right does not mean that the move cannot be reversed. so it's important we look at this for what it is and i'm going to step forward and be diligent. >> will the glitches at the sochi olympics continue to occur? [ male announcer ] this is the story
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all right. so, there you go. that's a live picture of sochi right now. it looks like everything is still standing, even the hotel. so it is tomorrow in sochi, a little after 3:00 in the morning there. the highly anticipated halfpipe on tuesday. pairs figure skating on wednesday, and the women's freestyle aerials will be held on friday. how are americans doing at the 2014 olympic games? well, here's where everybody stands. norway leads with 7 medals, followed by the netherlands and the u.s. with four medals two. gold medals courtesy of team usa's sweep of the snowboard slopestyle. canada and russia also have four medals. austria rounds out our list with two medals. we are enjoying the cheering on of the team usa, but we have been a little distracted so far
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by something called sochi problems. the twitter page has shown us some really outrageous things including an american bobsledder getting locked in his bathroom. so will the problems continue this week? here's cnn's sports anchor rachel nickles. rachel? >> reporter: the venues here in sochi have been beautiful, but not always full of fans. the sochi problems with the run-up to the loum picks have been handled, but not one of them. johnny quinn took one of the most buzzed about pictures after he had to break through his jammed bathroom door. this picture has been re-tweeted more than 25,000 times. and today i caught up with quinn who told me exactly what happened after he got out of his shower at the olympic village and discovered he was trapped. >> my neighbors, or my two other teammates with on the bobsled, so i was banging on the wall trying to get their attention and nothing. and nothing.
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>> reporter: did you have a panic moment? >> not so much panic because i was running water, but i had nothing. and i was sitting there banging on the random parts of the wall to see if i could catch somebody's attention, and as i'm banging on the random parts going around the bathroom, and i kind of hit the door, and it cracks. and so i go a little harder and my fist goes through the door. >> reporter: are you surprised at that? do you normally punch through a door? >> no, no, no. so i see light and i was like, okay, it's time to get out of here now. >> quinn said the people at the olympic village were very nice about the whole thing. and actually brought him a whole new door. don, he also told me that for the rest of his team here at the olympics, when he goes to take a shower, he'll be bringing his telephone into the bathroom with him. >> good idea. thank you, rachel. the man partially responsible for revealing the news that the nsa is spying on
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surveillance programs last year. rosa flores is here with us, when can we learn about the new discoveries, rosa? >> we could learn about them tomorrow or throughout the week when greenwald is expected to release a series of website that is would have these shocks revelations. now, these websites don't have a name just yet that have been released, by brian stelter interviewed him today and asked him about, okay, so what are these revelations going to be about? just about the nsa document that is have already been released or other stuff? greenwald did not exactly answer that question, but steltzer asked about sources. so it just going to be about snow den or other government work work workers who are unhappy with what the government is doing? here is greenwald's response? >> i definitely think it is fair to say there are people who have been inspired by edward
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snowden's courage and by the great good in virtue that is achieved. >> now, don, he didn't quite expand as to what all other topics will be included in these websites, but he said it will include the topics he's interested in, civil liberties and also criminal justice abuses. so we'll have to see. >> everyone is on the internet now and people, many of us don't want our information being -- even though we know it's happening, we don't want our information out there. the people on social media protest these programs in the past. have you heard anything? >> we checked it out. there's another one expected this tuesday called the day we fight against mass surveillance. pretty much what you can expect is there will be banners on thousands of websites. they are going to say, please support the u.s. freedom act. and it is pretty much a law that would limit the collection and use of information. so be on the lookout. it's going to happen on tuesday.
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you're going to see it on a lot of websites. because this organization is allowing the code to be downloaded for free. you'll see a lot of this call on congress to pass the law. >> so many people feel that i'm not shocked that my information is being looked at. i'm not shocked at all. >> i'm talking to my mom and husband, who cares. >> go ahead and look at it. still to come on cnn, cnn goes inside the hack. and exclusive information into the world of cyber crime. and in the week ahead, why you may hear that a group of undercover secret service agents may have used your stolen data. but first, this -- if you are an animal lover, you will understand this next story. one man says his dying dog turned his life around. tom foreman with this american journey. >> reporter: this may look like an animal rescue, but for james giulani, it is more like redemption. >> i was a bad person my whole life, and now i have good about
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crime. and here's cnn's drew griffin right now. >> this is the story of how it happens, how your credit card gets swiped from a retailer. then that credit card number is bought and sold literally across the world and used again, often before you even know it's been hacked. and all of this we are told organized by an unassuming geek. don't let this baby face fool you, if you want too know who is behind the hacking, stealing and selling of your credit cards, maxim of the ukraine is about as good of an example as you can find. up until the recent target store breach, maxik as he was called, was the king of the hill. the most prolific credit card trafficker in the world. organizering and operating a worldwide credit theft ring that hacked into nine major retailers stealing and then selling the data from more than 40 million credit cards.
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data that would be sold to other criminals who would go on buying sprees. they would sell whatever they bought with your stolen credit and turn it into cash. this criminal was one of them. he knew the ins and outs. >> and if a person had good credit, you could potentially take $25,000 from a particular credit card. >> reporter: and it was relatively easy. perfect-looking fake credit cards bought online. machines doing code and embossed credit cards bought online. and also available online, freshly stolen credit card information that this cyber criminal was buying straight from a baby faced ukrainian tech geek. you had the material to make the cards, you had the plastic to make the cards, and then you got the data to actually make the physical cards real and active. just to be clear, you didn't do that. >> no. >> reporter: just to be clear,
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this guy isn't a cyber criminal at all. he's an undercover secret service agent for three years who became part of this massive criminal network, befriending maxik and traveling to you cape, turkey, to immerse himself in one of the fastest growing criminal schemes in the world. maxik would hire hacking teams across the united states. these are the cyber criminals who electronically break in to stores, retailers, any company with large amounts of credit card information. the undercover agent would pretend then to be a buyer who could use the stolen numbers and literally create credit cards that look and act exactly like the card in your pocket. and before you would even realize your credit card numbers had been stolen, crews were out buying up merchandise and selling it on the black market. how many cards were available? how many credit lines were available? >> well, millions of credit cards. >> reporter: the secret service was buying up stolen credit
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cards in bulk on a weekly basis, all in a well-planned roos to reel in maxik's trust and eventually maxik himself. did he seem like a criminal? >> up in of them came off as looking as a mafia figure or as the next big criminal. they were ordinary individuals. >> reporter: after a night out in turkey, he brought maxik back to a hotel where as planned they were both arrested. for more than a year, the agent continued the charade, even as maxik was sentenced to 30 years in turkish prison. what did the secret service do with the thousands and thousands of stolen credit cards they were buying up on a weekly basis? they pretended to use them to the criminals but secretly were notifying your bank and canceling them saving untold americans the misery of going through having their credit card hacked. >> drew griffin, thank you for that. a man who claims he spent 13
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months drifting in the pacific ocean could return home tomorrow. jose salvadora's boat washed ashore nearly two weeks ago. doctors must clear him medically before he's allowed to return the nearly 6,000-mile home to mexico, that trip. we are joined now by phone from the marshall islands with miguel, you are going to talk to the foreign minister there in a few minutes, what is next for this guy? what do you expect to hear from the foreign minister? >> caller: we know he's going to have a medical checkup today, we are not sure when that's going to happen, but that will be the final check before he is on a plane and ready to go. we suspect and perhaps this is something that the foreign minister can help us understand better, we suspect that he will be on a plane tonight to honolulu and onwards towards el salvador. everything indicates this is a
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man who really wants to get home. diplomats from the u.s., el salvador, the government and the marshall islands have been meeting to try to figure out the best way to deal with him and help him out. we believe that's all in the motion and it looks like his health has stabilized to the point where he can travel and make that last long flight but short compared to the way he got here home. >> so i understand that you found out more information about the way he washed ashore. what do you know? >> this is perhaps the most incredible piece of this story. so this is a guy who on the 30th of january washed ashore on a small island right off iban, which is 200 miles from there. he had a pair of underwear almost completely torn off his body. he was wielding a knife at people across the island. they were having a yell conversation. the woman he was talking with told him to put the knife down. he did. they ran to him and helped him,
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gave him clothes, he was extraordinary week and made him pancake after pancake and pancake and he ate and ate. and they communicated through an an t anthropologist who was on the island. and through that they got his information on who he was and what was going on. an unbelievable story that this man had to tell. don? >> okay, so listen, not that i'm being a skeptic, but it's been out there that many people are skeptical about whether his story is real. when you look at what happened, there's someone else in the boat, that person is gone. he's too heavy for be missing for so long even though he hate fish and seawood, what have you, what's going on?
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is there anybody looking into the possibility that something may be, may have run afoul here? >> yeah, look, the el salvadorian officials and the mexican officials have all looked into this guy. everything checks out. the strongest piece of evidence is the boat itself, which found its way from mexico all the way to here in the marshall islands. the boat incidentally when the islanders found it on this island where it washed ashore, they found a seabird in the boat tethered alive and its foot tethered to the boat as if it were the next meal. they also found turtle shells in the boat. this is the man who said that he survived drinking the blood of turtles, getting the occasional rainwater, he was eating birds that he captured on the boat, and sometimes having to resort to drinking his own urine. 13 1/2 months, 6,600 miles drifting from mexico to this
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place. as unbelievable as it is, it has happened before with a few other mexican fishermen. it took them nine months to make that journey. it has happened before and there is -- the balance of fact tips in his favor, certainly. it appears by all means that this actually happened to this man. what an unbelievable story. >> my gosh, what an incredible story. and miguel mar quques, he will n us tomorrow at 11:30. thank you for that. then coming up, you may not recognize this guy but chances are you will. he's touted as a future nba great, but he could be riding the bench after what happened last night. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one.
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yikes! number four is sci-fi fans rejoicing, or maybe not. finally the reboot of "robo cops" hits theaters this thursday, but the question on everyone's mind l the reboot live up to the 1987 original success? i think it is worth checking out to see. number three, if you're in a relationship, mark your calendars because this friday is valentine's day. let's not forget. the perfect date night movie is "winter's tale," a love story, how appropriate. also starring jennifer connolly and will smith. and if you're single, don't fret, order in, get comfortable at home because "house of cards" premiers on netflix also on valentine's day. and number two, the nba all-star game airs on tnt next thursday. and everyone will be tuning in to see how anthony davis does filling in for kobe bryant. he has the support from his hometown playing in new orleans. and finally coming in hot at
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number one on tuesday, you don't want to miss the snowboarding halfpipe event at the sochi olympics to air on nbc as all eyes will be glued on our own shaun white who dropped out of the slopes element last week to focus on the halfpipe in hopes to bring home his third gold medal in this event. the pressure is certainly on. we'll be watching. and if history is any indication, i believe he will prevail. for cnn, i'm samantha schauker. we are following a story from yesterday's basketball game between texas tech and oklahoma state. marcus smart of oklahoma state shoved a fan who was taunting him. here's the very latest, the big 12 conference has just suspended smart for three games. he's been suspended for three games. earlier this hour, marcus smart met with reporters. here's what he had to say. let's listen. >> first off, i want to apologize to the fan, whose name
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is jeff orr, i want to apologize to him and to my teammates and my coach, my family, oklahoma state university, this is not how i con done myself, this is not how this program is done, how i was raised, you know, i let my emotions get the best of me. you know, i just can't let that happen again. it's something i have to learn from, a lesson i have to learn from. >> all right. let's bring back terrence moore now, you heard what he has to say, he's a sports contributor for cnn.com and mlb.com. you told me a few minutes that marcus smart deserved to be suspended. so what do you think of this suspension? is this issue over? >> well, shy of jimmy swaggart, this is one of the better apologies. you didn't get the sensation he was reading a prepared statement from syria, he was very sincere with what he said.
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now, that being said, there is no way that this is over. >> why do you mean there's no way this is over? >> well, let's start with this, everybody's talking about marcus smart. but we also have to talk about travis ford who is the head coach. now earlier this season marcus smart also lost his temper kicking a chair. and if -- according to travis ford, the head coach, he told him he has to control his emotions, which means that he apparently has tuned his coach out. because the coaches got to make these situations and handle these situations appropriately. the other thing is, after this incident took place last night, instead of sending him back to the locker room, he had him sitting on the bench. after the game was over, you've got the texas tech fans storming the court. that could have been a very ugly situation and the coach could have been responsible for that. >> any word from texas tech? >> there is.
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as a matter of fact, the gentleman, jeff orr, said he will voluntarily agree not to attend a texas tech home or away basketball game for the remainder of the season. this is a super fan of texas tech. but here's the big thing, don, he said that he never used a racial slur, that he basically called smart a piece of crap. now whatever that crap entails, we don't know. but it goes back to what i said earlier, it doesn't really matter what the fan says in these situations. if you're the player, you've got to control yourself because you can't control the fans. fans are going to be fans and fans are often idiotic. >> so -- what if the player had said that, i'm not making excuses for the coach, but what in the fan had said that, and that immediately puts the coach in an odd position, if his player is saying, someone said the n-word to me and he kicks the guy out and now the coach is involved in this n-word controversy, maybe that's why he
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let him sit on the bench. i don't know why he let him stay there and didn't kick him out of the game. >> april 15, 1947, there was a guy named jackie robinson. jackie robinson can handle everything he has to deal with, then these guys in the 21st century surely can handle these sorts of things. >> that is the smartest thing you have ever said in your entire life. and you are the smartest man. thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll talk about it -- speaking of the n-word, we'll talk about thug. is that the new n-word when it comes to a florida trial involving possibly stand your ground? we'll see.
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liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? all right. this is a story everyone is talking about next week, this is the next big trial happening now. testimony has been tense and fast-moving in the high-profile case of michael dunham. the florida man charged in the 2012 shooting death of teenager jordan davis. much of the case is centered around the loud music that was allegedly coming from the teenager's car. and if that dispute led to the teen's death. on the stand yesterday, dunn's fio fiancee rhonda gave the defense what she saw. >> could you hear the music
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coming from the red suv? >> yes. >> from where you were sitting inside of the car, could you hear any of the lyrics of the music? >> no, i couldn't make out the lyrics. >> could you tell what kind of music it was? >> yes, i could. >> could you hear the bass? >> yes. >> from inside the car, was anything in the karcakaratling the base? >> no. >> did the defendant say anything about the music when he parked the car next to the red car? >> yes. >> and what did the defendant say? >> i hate that thug music. >> and what was your response to the defendant? >> i said, yes, i know. >> okay. there he is, our cnn political commentator, mark, we have been talking about the word thug for a year now. finally everyone is catching up to us about the word. and i said i don't think every time it is used it is racial, but in certain cases it is. and now you just have someone in
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their testimony saying, hey, listen, i don't like that thug music. what is the impact on this trial and what do you think he meant by that? did he mean the n-word? >> he absolutely meant the n-word. you're right, don, you were way in front of this story. and the use of racially quoted terms like thug allow people to prosecute the kind of rationalized case by other means. you don't have to say the n-word or say black, you just say thug music and everyone knows the deep encoding that's inside of that word. when he says i heard thug music, he meant black music and dangerous music. they are arguing as if thinking somebody playing black music makes them worthy of lethal force. >> is it black music? i don't know, because i think if the research is true or that you hear white kids listen to rap and hip-hop way more than black kids, then wouldn't it be white music, too, or the music of youth? >> no. in fact, those numbers are a little skewed.
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what people say is white people consume it more and go to the store to buy it more, but black people listen to it. we are the ones who decide that it is cool. so even those black kids nodding their head to rick rose, they are nodding their heads to it because they think that's what black popular music is. so they are considered to be acting black and that's where it gets dangerous. when black people act black, they start pulling out guns. >> can we look at the lyrics? not saying this kid should have been shot at all because of the lyrics in the music and whatever, but the words in the music, 300 b-word, and it says the f-word and n-word, you don't want no beef. does it matter what the lyrics are? >> it doesn't matter. if you subject them to serious scrutiny with an expert from harvard that did that, he said it's a love song to a friend, an ode to one's team, squad or
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crew. it doesn't matter what the song said. if i listen to rock music or listen to lyrical poetry from the 18th century or blues, i can find all kinds of weird lyrics. it doesn't mean you shoot the people listening to it. >> i love old school r&b. there's hip-hop i listen to and old school rock-n-roll that i listen to. and you say, oh, my gosh, i didn't realize they were saying that. nobody should be harmed for the music they are listening to. the prosecutor mentioned the exchange between dunn and his fiancee. but the defense told a different story saying his client was verbally threatened. is that going to matter in this case? because most of the people are saying they didn't hear anything, she said she didn't see a gun and just wanted to get out of there and go home to get the dog. >> we have seen this in the zimmerman case and with shawn bell, we have seen so many cases where black unarmed teens are
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still seen as violent and dangerous. and we still give their killers the benefit of the doubt. so yes, that will matter or could matter. i hope it doesn't but it could matter because we are looking for reasons to let the people off the hook for killing black boys. too often we see their bodies as dangerous. so that's an issue here, but i hope they keep hanging their heads on the rap lyrics. i hope we have a country smart enough to know that banging your head out of your car with a subwoofer doesn't mean that you should die. >> i don't go up to people and say, who the heck do you think you are? >> you are not quite old enough for that yet. >> thank you, marc. we'll be right backment. who are you? who are you? wrong answer. wait, daddy, this is blair, he booked this room with priceline express deals and saved a ton. yeah, i didn't have to bid i got everything i wanted. oh good i always do.
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