that does it for us tonight. "piers morgan live" starts right now. welcome do our viewers in the united states and around the world. the most powerful woman in america or around the world. hillary rodham clinton. a plan for 2016 and what she told a friend about monica lewinsky. i'll talk to the authors of the new blockbuster book that reveals a secret to the woman

who just may be on her way back to the white house. >> live long and prosper. leonard nimoy is here with a message, even if you quit smoking years ago. and too bad they don't give out gold medals for busting down doors, johnny quinn would definitely be in the league. so far he's broken down a bathroom door and fought his way out of an elevator in sochi. he'll be here live. and boy george is in the house. his songs were the soundtrack of the '80s. he talked about quitting drugs, finding happiness i want to begin with our big story. new revelations about former first lady and secretary of state hillary clinton, she's the author of a new book. welcome to both of you. >> hi, pierce.

>>. >> let's talk -- >> i'm studying greek from over the weekend. let's talk about hillary clinton. the book is very starkly covered. there's a picture of a woman looking very presidential under the headline hrc. it's a big substantial book for the revelations. what to you is the key revelation you would like to communicate to the outside world which defines this woman, hillary clinton? >> i think the key revelation is that -- is really in total, the book -- this is a book about how she would govern, how she makes decisions. it's a book about who she surrounds herself with, and the way loyalty ties to that. and sometimes the inability to choose between loyalty and confidence. for those who are trying to make a judgment about hillary clinton going into 2016, should she run? i think most people think she will, had is something they

should read the whole thing, not just those exciting little nuggets. >> i think it's also -- >> i mean. >> i think it's -- well, let me ask you, amy, about the line i like. which is the enemy's list, it plays into the sense that the clintons are very much them or us organization. in the sense that if you're with them, fantastic, they'll be tremendously loyal to you. if you're an enemy, you've got to be crushed. now, i suppose -- am i surprised they take john kerry or claire mccaskill, given that they were effectively opposition to them? >> it's pretty common for politicians to have these kinds of lists. the thing about the clintons is that they have the power to reward and punish, more than any other politician in modern history, i think that's most important about them. i think we tell the story about

how they do look forward with this list, it's not just -- this list was done in 2008 but it can be applied in 2016, it was applied in 2010, 2012. they look forward, but they look back con stan thely as part of their narrative. >> there's one congressman in particular. we tell the story of how he had been seen betraying hillary clinton's task force, he wouldn't give her his endorsement, it infuriated the clintons, bill clinton in particular, saw him at a fund-raiser and staired him down, a year later, saw him at a funeral and stared him down. he talked to jason altmire saying, if you don't have loyalty in politics, what do you have? ultimately in 2012, jason altmire had a democratic primary, he was seemingly going to cruise to re-election, and bill clinton in the last couple weeks, endorsed altmire's opponent, flipped what was

happening on the ground and all of a sudden jason altmire was in the private sector. he's not the only one, there's a whole series of congress men -- >> hang on, here's what the clinton spokesman said about -- the idea that we keep -- not to mention update, circulate, disseminate and rely on it, is ludicrous. we kept track of who was for it. the clintons have always found their way -- there's a big difference between the kind of anecdote you just relayed and say what's gone on in new jersey with governor christie's staff, where they have been directly hurting the electorate in new jersey in a fit of peak revenge. season the that. >> exactly. i think that's the dichotomy here, what we've seen with chris christie, he punished, he was meant to punish the public. this was not the case, this was just -- they were keeping track of who was with them, and who

was against them, they're punishing politicians, it's a lot different, it's not a life or death matter. >> let's move to hillary clinton, is there so much -- hillary said about monica lewinsky, in fact, she's a narcissistic looney toon. it seems like the kind of thing only a british person would say. >> let me jump -- let me correct. i quote the papers from friends -- hillary clinton re r referred to monica lewinsky as a narcissistic looney toon. do americans say things like narcissistic looney toon? >> well educated ones do. that word you just used is too long and involved for me, narcissistic. hillary clinton, one of the stories we tell in the book, spent the night at buckingham palace for a state dinner with the queen, and she came out, told her aides afterwards she

felt like a fairy tale princess. you would think it would be hard to wow hillary clinton these days, but she was impressed by the majesty of the palace. >> let me ask you, the point about the monica lewinsky point, i guess people like -- you know, rand paul and others -- we try to ramp up the sense, when hillary clinton runs, people will be talking about bill because of what happened 16 years ago. do you think it matters, do people care about monica lewinsky enough to punish hillary at the ballot box because of something bill did nearly two decades ago? >> i don't think it platters. when people go to the poles, they're going to look for what she did. if you want to weigh what she did at state, you should read this book and find out, it is how she makes decisions. it's interesting, you bring up bill clinton. i think that, you know, if he can be the bill clinton that he was in 2012, she's going to do

very well. she's going to really ride this out and -- they're strategy will be something akin to what barack obama did. which was to use him at public events and not so much talk to the press, which is kind of a weakness for him, he'd rather be talking to the people rather than the press. i think if they do that, that's one strategy they use, they're going to use him to go out and do these big events and use him as the explainer in chief as president obama calls him. >> he's fantastic -- he was back for barack obama in the last election campaign. i mean, that brilliant speech at the conference, basically articulated far better than barack obama had done. what he was trying to achieve and what he hadn't achieved. isn't he in the end the midas touch that every candidate would like to have. and the fact that hillary's married to him and they have the brilliant daughter, they're the whole package. they're incredibly impressive, very hard to beat. >> there are a lot of

politicians in the world who are very jealous of bill clinton's natural charm. i thought in that convention speech in 2012, he brilliantly talked about arithmetic, we talk about this in the book a little bit, to get across the basic idea that mitt romney's plans didn't add up according to him, and it was so much more devastating for romney than anything obama had said. >> amy, let me ask you this, i would have put good money at the time on hillary clinton beating barack obama, and she lost. >> sure. >> so you got a woman who has tried before to run and got beaten and people were surprised by that. so she's not unbeatable. when you did this book, when you finished it, what do you think of the key negatives that you discovered against hillary clinton that people may think about and latch on to when they vote. >> we tell the story, you know what she did in 2008. she took her aides aside and close friends and invited them

to her home and office and said, tell me what i did wrong. let's talk about it. at the end she had pieced together this mosaic of what she did wrong. we talk about that in the book. in 2016 you're going to see her embrace the fact that she's a woman candidate a little more, which is something she didn't do in 2008, she heard from aides that in was an arrogance at the top. you're going to hear more of that from her. she's going to get some truth tellers, you're going to see a different ball game when it comes to technology, she really learned her lesson, she felt like barack obama ran circles around her campaign, you're going to see a lot more of that. she applied it at state which is something we talk about in the book, i think you're going to see that in the 2016 campaign as well. >> jonathan, the wall street journal, jonathan karl reviewed you book, and said you have appeared to have fallen in love with your subject. how do you plead? >> not guilty.

>> i think you're -- >> not falling in love. tell me about this, one of the more interesting parts in there is where you talk about a relationship between obama and hillary clinton, seems to have ended up pretty good. one of the reasons for that is she supported him pretty wholeheartedly on key moments, the surge and -- in afghanistan, the killing of bin laden and others, where joe biden, who mayock be a contender to go against the democratic nomination, he didn't. so how significant could that be when it comes to determining who actually gets the democratic nomination. >> i think it's pretty significant. you know, we point out in the book, that she doesn't have many marquis achievements. she didn't achieve like a big peace deal or something, but she did back the president on these key points like the bin laden raid and the afghanistan surge. she's going to talk about that a little more, where as biden was on the other side, he was a bit more of a dove.

i think that plays to her strengths a little bit, she has a bias for action, and she's decisive and knows what she wants to do. i think that will play well for her in a campaign. >> there's also -- they played differently at the democratic primary, where being a dove would be a good thing. maybe better in the general election than the primary. >> it's a fascinating book, it's called hrc. a riveting read about the woman who may become america's first female president. jonathan allen and amy barnes, thanks for joining me. best of luck with the book. >> thank you, piers. go arsenal. >> go gunners, absolutely. the olympic athlete who never met a door he couldn't bust open. he's here live from sochi, if he's escaped. [ sneezes, coughs ]

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olympic athletes face tremendous challenges to make it to the games. johnny quinn had to fight his way out of a locked bathroom last week. today he was stuck in an elevator it joining me live from sochi is johnny quinn. great to see you alive and out there. let's go through this series of

misadventures you've had. what happened in the bathroom. >> well, i was taking a shower like a normal routine, one of the showers -- didn't have a towel. i get out of the shower, go to the door to grab a towel, it won't come unlocked, i make sure i didn't accidentally lock it, sure enough the unlock button was unlocked, i start to move the handle up and down. see if i can get it to unjar and nothing. my roommate was in the weight room at the time so he wasn't there. my other two teammates were in the room next door, i started to beat on the wall, make some noise, see if they could hear me and come offer assistance, but they couldn't hear me. after waiting around, hoping my roommate was going to come back or somebody would come in i started banging on random parts of the bathroom to see if i

could get somebody to come in, as i got to the door, i hit it pretty good, and it cracked. i kind of wind back and hit harder and my fist goes right through the door, i pull my fist out and i can see daylight from the room and at that point i said, hey, it's time to get out of here. >> having made this miraculous escape, you find yourself in an elevator and lightning strikes again, what happened? >> we were going to dinner, we were on the fifth floor going down to the first floor, i was with my pilot and two mechanics that work on the sleds. as we got to the first floor, the elevator door opened quickly and shut very hard immediately. fortunately everybody had their phones as you can tell by the pictures. people heard what was going on so immediately assistance was

right there, and we got out of the elevator in a timely manner. kind of a funny scenario to happen shortly there afterthe bathroom door. >> are you always this accident prone? >>. >> no, i think it's an unfortunate situation in both scenarios, now that everybody's safe, the door's been fixed, the elevator's been fixed. it's something to laugh about. >> you're asking -- how are you making sure you don't get trapped again? >> our four man events is one of the last events of the olympic games. we're excited for that competition to get in here, in the meantime, my teammates are

giving me a hard time, it's kind of neat to still go to the venues, watch team usa cheer on the athletes and see them win medals, is that adding a lot of fuel to our fire. you can make sure on race day i'll shower with the door open and probably take the stairs. >> when i saw the opening ceremonies, you all looked happy to be coming out. your outfits were a bit of a psychedelic string? >> as a first time olympian, i was excited to put on our ralph lauren gear, and be part of opening ceremonies, walking through opening ceremonies, being a small part of the 230 athlete delegation to represent the united states of america was an unbelievable experience that

words can't put into proportion what it was like, for me personally, i enjoyed the gear, it was fantastic walking in opening ceremonies, it's a memory i'll have with me for the rest of my life. >> very understated. very american. >> let's talk seriously about the competition. i interviewed one of your competitors, wing ston walk of the jamaican bobsled team. he's confident. he's come for medals, he told me. are you worried about the jamaicans? >> they're a talented group. and it's exciting to see how much coverage we're getting. looking at the field of competition usa won piloted by steve holcomb. they're going to be tough. the russians are going to be phenomenal. the gernlens, canadians, latvia, it's going to be a fantastic competition for four men.

i tell you what works. we're excited for the challenge. >> johnny, you always have a future for the next harry hugh duneny. i think he could be in for some medal on sunday. i wish you the best. thanks for joining me. >> i appreciate it, thank you for having me on. >> johnny quinn, good to see him skate and alive and well. when we come back, leonard nimoy joins me exclusively with a story. [ male announcer ] this is kevin.

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leonard nimoy one of the most loved characters on a tv show. he's facing a new challenge, he's been diagnosed with chronic constructive pulmonary dees even though he stopped smoking years ago. for me to have mr. spock in my studio is one of the great moments of my life. >> i'm flattered. does that strike you as weird after all this time -- >> do you have to, every single day of your life, have people asking you if you're logical?

>> yeah. >> what else do people say? >> they ask me to do the neck pinch, so they can knock out somebody they don't like. or they get beamed out -- johnny quinn could have used that, i would have just beamed out of there. >> only three seasons of the tv show ever made. >> yeah, '66, '67 and '68. >> when i grew, it was one of the big tv shows. you gave up smoking 30 years ago, you're about to be 83 next week? >> next month. >> you look fantastic. i know you have this disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. because of smoking, but you haven't smoked in 30 years. when you got the diagnosis, what

was your thoughts? >> dismay. it's a lesson i had to learn, i damaged lung cells many years ago, and then as age begins to damage lung cells as well, you begin to feel it. it's something that can sneak up on you earlier. >> 12 million people diagnosed in the united states. about 30% of people who smoke, will get clinically significant copd. it's a big deal. you brought this machine, what is this machine? >> this is an oxygenator? i don't carry a tank of oxygen, this machine gives me oxygen -- it extracts oxygen out of the atmosphere, i get it up my nose when i need it. i still use it sporadically, a couple years ago, i didn't need it at all. >> breathing issues? >> yes, i get shortness of breath and i feel like i can't get a full breath. i have to go to the machine

periodically. >> i'm listening to mr. spock. captain, oxygen, atmosphere, where's scotty. >> pump it up. >> there's almost nothing you can say. i will try to wrestle back to the seriousness. >> it's okay. >> what is the message you want to communicate to people watching who are 60, 70, 80, gave up smoking? i might be worried they have this. >> the good news now, is that people have begun to understand that smoking can be dangerous. when i started smoking, you didn't have that in the atmosphere, people being told smoking is terrific. in fact, the big advertising campaign for camels was more doctors smoke camels than any other cigarette. >> which is extraordinary. >> you see the doctor wearing a white coat, sitting behind the desk smiling at you.

and they also said camels are good for your t zone, your nose and your throat. today we know it's not okay, at least you have that kind of help to get a mind-set to get rid of it, to get rid of the addiction. it is an addiction. it's not easy to stop, i had to go through a couple programs back in the day. >> how many were you smoking. >> i was smoking a couple packs. i tell people i was an olympic championship smoker. if there had been a championship in the addiction, i could have qualified. i could smoke in the shower. i could have smoked any place, and it was something that you -- was part of my culture, it was part of my gang, my guys, it was cool to be able to light a cigarette. when i was in the army for two years, the tobacco companies came around giving away free samples to the g.i.s, and the army facilitated that.

every time there was a break, okay, 10 minute break, smoke if you got 'em. that was the word. it was in the culture, today we have a different kind of culture fortunately, and people can be helped psychologically to understand it's not a good thing to do. but you have to treat it as an addiction, and understand that it's not too early to quit. young people think, maybe in ten years i'll quit. the damage is being done right now every day you use cigarettes you're losing cells in your lungs. >> let's go back to star trek. i can't think of anything else i'd rather talk to you. when william shatner came on, he was 82, are you buddies? >> he's a lot older than i am. he was born four days before me. >> do you hang out with him? >> i haven't seen him in a while, no. he's very busy, he has his own life, very mine. he does a lot of commercials,

conventions, he has a one man show he goes about the country doing. we don't have that kind of relationship any more. >> what about the rest of the enterprise? >> see them all occasionally. i hear from them, i fought with them on twitter. >> are you big on twitter? >> i'm on there because i have a granddaughter who runs a shop called shop llap, live long and prosper. she sells star trek related merchandise having to do with me. i'm her grandfather, so i'm the guy who created business for letter by saying, go to my granddaughter's website. >> when you go to these trekkie conventions and there's 1,000 people dressed up -- >> more than 1,000. >> maybe 1,000 dressed up as you? >> oh. >> is that freaky? >> it's fun. the show took a lot of people's imagination, i see it as a health thing, it's a way to act out in fantasy, fun. either way, and enjoy it.

>> what was your favorite ever scene. >> i'd have to say that my favorite episode was an episode where spock had to go back to his home planet to fulfill a marriage. it was a beautiful script, a wonderful sized fiction writer, in that episode, we saw -- we heard the words live long and prosper for the first time, we saw spock do this for the first time. within days after i did that on the show. within days after it aired, i was getting it back on the street. i thought it was a vein somewhere. people on the street giving it to me, police officers giving it to me. waiters in restaurants, it was all -- to this day i still get that greeting. >> what is the technique? >> is there a particular? >> you wouldn't qualify. >> there's a few people that want to wish me ill harm, it might be quite handy. >> you have to go to the vulcan

institute of technology to learn. >> what are you doing actingwise? do you still act? >> no, no. >> i have a wonderful life. >> i'm very much in love with my wife, i have great kids, we have three between us. they're wonderful people, i have six grandchildren and a great grandson. we have wonderful homes and we travel whenever we want to, wherever we want to. i'm enjoying my life very much. i started working when i was 10 years old, i didn't quit until just a few years ago. i've had enough of that. >> leonard nimoy, it's been a pleasure to meet you. thank you for bringing in your machine and telling me how it all works. >> thank you. >> very important thing, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. if you fear you have it, get yourself checked out. i would imagine with all these things, early detection is the key thing. >> that's the best. >> great to see you. >> great to see you. >> pleasure. >> thank you. how do you follow that, the

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♪ do you really want to hurt me ♪ ♪ do you really want to make me cry ♪ ♪ love is never asking why >> do you really want to hurt me, culture club's breakthrough hit from 1982. an extraordinary singer named george allen owe dowd. better known as boy george. he's had his ups and downs since then. he's back with a very big album about he joins me now exclusively, boy george following mr. spock from star tr trek. >> i used to love those eyebrows. i think i did those eyebrows in the '70s. >> how are you? >> very good. i'm pleased to be in america. >> i didn't realize how famous you are in america. you're huge here. you got boy george, we love boy

george. >> yeah, america's always been my place. which is nice. >> you've been through some ups and downs, it's not been easy for you by any means. where are you? >> i'm six years sober this march. i'm in a great place. things are now better than they've ever been. i'm kind of -- it kind of feels like, i was going to say second chance. it's probably my tenth chance. i do feel like i've reached the point where i've grown up a bit and calmed down, i think that's it. you went through the darkest period. whether you had big issues with heroin addiction. it was your brother that basically helped save your life, made it public and did that for you. we lost philip seymour hoffman last week. did you recognize in him a kind of parallel to what you've been through, and how would you have advised people to try to help

him? >> the difficult one, obviously, when these things happen, you think about the families and the people they've left behind. i don't want to make it about me. i felt very sad. he was a great actor, whenever you knew anyone like that, amy winehouse, anyone that's talented, it's heartbreaking to see that. when you're in that addiction, you're not thinking about other people. >> it's a very selfish pursuit, even though it's a disease. it's an addiction. >> yeah, i don't think anyone does it as a vocation or deliberately. what happens, people kind of experiment when they're young, and some people can take it or leave it. unfortunately, there are groups of people who aren't able to do that, which i won. and we call ourselves addicts. once you realize that. the only route is to kind of abstain from anything. >> is it an addictive personality generally. they have that streak in them about all matters?

>> i think in my case. i don't know about anyone else, i think in my case, everything i do, i do to an extreme. and what i discovered, i had a big addiction in the '80s and spent a long time being clean. really, the one thing i've done badly is a drug addict. this time around i kind of have a program, i have support, whereas in the '80s, once i got clean, i thought i could do it on my own. then i realized, no, i do need support with that. >> so did philip seymour hoffman, he was clean for 20 yi years. an incredible period of time to then have a relapse. from your experience, is that your experience? you're always diseased and at any moment you could lose that battle, even though it's been decades? >> yes, in recovery, they say one day at a time. each day is a reprieve, you always have to be conscious not to be around, not to put

yourself in situations where you might be tempted. it's a daily thing, it's for life. >> only today. julia roberts, lost her sister or stepsister to a drug overdose. amy winehouse, whitney houston, heath ledger, there's been so many in recent years. is there a particular attachment between drug addiction and celebrity? you have the money, the easy access to drugs and the particular pressure that comes to life performing before a lot of people? >> i think a lot of it is, you can start off with the best intentions in the world, you don't want to do it. i was very anti-drugs when i was growing up, even in my early teens, and what happens is, you end up being around it, and i think a little bit of peer pressure comes into it. if you are one of those people who can't walk away from it, you end up with a problem. >> let's take a short break, i

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pretprebut despite all that, you sang in perfect pitch. many felt your natural voice has been one of the great british voices in music? >> thank you. >> what did you think? >> it's hard to say that about yourself. i remember going to the studio and everybody was like in recording mode, there was no time to practice the song. i had a camera in my face, you walk into the studio, tell what i was going to sing. there was no ego involved, you just got on with it, i remember him saying i sang like a black lady, which i was quite pleased about. >> your sexuality has always been a key of your personality, in terms of your public profile. big day today for america, nfl college star, he wants to go into the national football league, has come out before a

draft has been made to pick these guys. everyone is talking about this. you came out, but you came out to your family long before you came out as a public persona. what advice would you give to people who are famous and have to come out? that >> one of the funny things about coming out public is people encourage it and then people say all you do is talk about being gay is you can't win. i was younger and was gung ho. now i think if it is going to make your miserable, don't come out. as long as somebody isn't attacking gay people i don't care if they are in the closet. you come out because it is going to make you happy and your life better. i don't think you have an obligation. i used to think that.

we have a guy named ben cohen who is championing us and we need more people like that. no one is going to listen to us queens screaming for equality. but good on him. i think it's a very brave thing to do. >> completely. let me ask you about miley cyrus and justin bieber. two pop superstars at the top of their games and getting adverse headlines and attention trying to make a break from teenage star to adult star. what do you make of them? >> you are growing up in public. my niece has been watching hannah montana. she has been in our lives for years this lovely adorable perfect disney star. and now my sister is having to explain why she is twerking and getting naked. it's a transition for parents to explain that miley cyrus is now

a young woman and she is not being subtle about it. >> and lack of subtle, justin bieber is on a mission to get rid of the teeny bopper image. >> i do sort of feel a little bit sorry for him. i wonder who is looking out for him. because he is a kid. >> i have three teenage son. you can only control them to a certain degree. and bieber is being targeted everywhere he goes, amplifying anything. when you have front page news for chucking eggs at a wall it's all silly, i think. >> it is. when you are that young, the fame process is much quicker now. it seems to happen straight away. you know, and the stakes are bigger now. they are making a lot of money. this is money we could have only

dreamed of back in the day. ridiculous. i think with that comes huge pressure. i do hope that he gets through it. it feels like he is trying to be really hip hop, something i never bothered to try do. i'm more flip-flop. >> i'm going to come back and ask you two defining questions, how many times have you been in love, and what would you do if i would give you five moments back in your life to relive. think on those answers. ♪ [ sneezes, coughs ] i've got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. oh what a relief it is. [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish,

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♪ >> boy george back. that is "i'll tumble for you." how many times have you been

properly in love? >> i don't think i've ever really truly been in love which is a shocking thing to say. i think over the years i felt i was madry in love with a few people. there are a couple of ex-partners that i love now which is different. i love them as friends and loved them in a way i could never have loved when i was going out with them. >> do you hope to find true love? >> i think, it would be nice. but when you are young you have such unrealistic expectations of other people and your idea of love is naive. as i've got older it's more mundane than what i realized. i grew up with that. really the real thing. so i'm waiting.

>> so my second one, if i could give you five minutes or an hour left to relive the great moment of your life what would you choose? >> i would probably -- first time i played madison square garden. >> is that in the '80s? >> i'd do it now because i'm better now. >> what does karma chameleon mean? >> it is law of cause and effect. in buddhism, everything has a reaction good and bad. and a chameleon is a creature -- a metaphor for your travails and highs and lows a

long time. your new album is available march 25th. touring. for more information, check out boygeorge.com. a living legend. great to see you. best of luck with the album and the tour. the tour. "ac360 later" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a top nfl prospect says he is gay. will it be a game changer in a league that is under fire when it comes to tolerance? we speak to one player who says it will not work and expresses fears over gays in the locker room. and what hillary clinton thought of monica lewinsky. the first lady and the other women, including the one she called a narcissistic looney tune. and kids love giraffes. the question