tomorrow a story too shocking to be believed. a 19-year-old who says she is a serial kill whoever can't count her victims. we'll have that tomorrow night. anderson cooper starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. jordan davis the young african-american man he shot and killed would have turned 19 over the weekend. surprise far and wide of the fact that a jury could not reach a verdict on the murder charge in his killing. that outcome seven months after another jury acquitted george zimmerman is prompting the same questions about the law in florida and so many other states, including stand your ground.

are laws that are color blind on paper less so in practice. we'll explore the interplay between law, race, and justice tonight. martin savage joins us with more on the verdict and the fallout and what florida plans to do next. you have been following this case from the beginning. for all of the people who have come in over the weekend, explain the highlights of what happened here. >> well, it began with jordan davis and three of his friends were in an suv at a gas station and they are listening to music and everyone agrees it is loud. and michael dunn and his fiance pull in and he claims he approaches the boys and says can you turn it down? that's when he says that jordan davis became abusive and began to threaten him and dunn saw the bail of a shotgun from the back of the suv. he was terrified and he had a gun. here's his testimony at trial.

>> what's going through your mind when he said this [ bleep ] is going down now? >> what went through my mind is that this was a clear and present danger and i said, you're not going to kill me you son of a [ bleep ] >> were you looking at him or moving to get -- >> i said that as i was retrieving my pistol. >> michael dunn fired ten shots, nine hitting the suv, continued firing as that suv was trying to pull away. jordan davis was hit three times. michael dunn drives to a hotel, the next day drives home, never calls police. police don't find a gun in jordan davis' car. dunn is on trial for first degree murder. >> there were a lot of moments of high drama. when dunn's fiance took the

stand, what did she say? >> if there ever was an ah-ha moment that was it. she said two damning things. she said that dunn made the comment, i hate that thug music and the other thing -- she was the one closest to him immediately after the gunfire and thereafter. she testified he never told her that davis had a gun. this is her on the stand. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind in that suv? >> no. >> there was no mention of a stick? >> no. >> there was no mention of a shotgun? >> no. >> there was no mention of a barrel? >> no. >> there was no mention of a lead pipe? >> no. >> that stunned the courtroom. >> a lot of people including the people i'm at this table with

tonight thought this was an open and shut case. still this jury struggled to come to the conclusion they did come to. >> the defense said the reason a gun was never found in the suv is that the police bungled that and said that the fiance was so upset she didn't know what dunn told her. but a lot of people thought this would be over in a matter of hours with a guilty verdict. days later we understood that the jury was divided and they could not agree on the charge of first degree murder and found him guilty on three counts of attempted murder. many people stay that is not the same of being convicted for death of an unarmed team. >> martin savidge, thank you much. i want to bring in sunny hostin

and don lemon. don was angry when he heard the verdict. jeffrey toobin, and mark o'mara. >> jeff you had a simple reaction to this verdict. >> yeah, this was a case about a kid killed because he was black. i mean, that's all this case was. >> well said. >> and i think that's why so many of us had such a horrified reaction to it. because there are interesting legal issues here and complexities, but there's no way he is killed if he is white. he is just killed because he is black. and fortunately we don't see it that often in this society. but when we do, it's still very disturbing. >> and i think we need to take it a step further. he was killed because a white man perceived he must have a gun because he's black because he

must be a thug. and i think that was what was so hurtful to me as the mother of a black child i now know when he is walk down the street rather than see the straight "a" student or the equestrian and swim team star they see a thug. what do i have to do to protect my kid? >> why is this the surprise? you were the one that sent me the jury break down on day one. and i think i said at the time this is a hung jury. >> i don't think it's a surprise but it's disappointing. was i surprised? not at all. was i pissed off? absolutely. and now it's sadness. that people are turning it into an issue saying that the people who feel emotional and see this as a cut and dry case that we are race baiting or playing the race card by talking about that,

look at that kid. that's a 17-year-old kid number a 17-year-old thug or a 17-year-old who was doing something that all 17-years-old don't do. i was on the west side highway the other evening as we were approaching the super bowl there were kids in a car four of them of all different ethnicities the music was so loud, we laughed and said that's what 17-years-old do. they play loud music. >> so mark, what, then, is the legal justification for this verdict? because the defense would have to prove that michael dunn had a reasonable belief that his life was in danger. so i listen to don and sunny, so what they are saying is that the only leap that his life could be in jeopardy is because of what? because he thought those kids

had a gun? there was no evidence of any gun there. what was the reasonable belief his life was in jeopardy? >> what this jury was trying to wrestle with is if he was acting in self-defense or if it was a crime. i think they were thinking about self-defense. and however michael dunn presented himself to that jury through his testimony and through the somewhat lack of evidence that the state had presented they were able to come up with a question whether or not he acted in self-defense. but a more important point is this and i would like to get to it. people have complained about stand your ground and self-defense. the statute in florida has to be changed. the portion of the statute that we should focus on is the question of a person who acts with a reasonable belief of imminent fear of great bodily injury and whether it is a different standard when is it a

white person looking at with the a black person, black person to black person. we will never get away from the idea it is a reasonable fear on a personal standard. but where we need to get a focus and will have the best conversation here tonight is say we need to figure out why certain people believe it's reasonable to fear other people. and sonny, you just talked about it. you know there are people in america who believe as soon as they look at a black male they start with that just maybe it's a moment or a percentage point of fear. but if we don't address that, stand your ground doesn't matter or self-defense doesn't matter. >> well, mark, i think stand your ground does matter. it takes away civility. it takes away that duty to retreat. it allows people to shoot based on their fear but it's i think to your point about the fear of the black teen i would like to talk about it and we all need to discuss it.

it's really about this man, michael dunn's fear and george zimmerman's fear of an inherent criminality of a black teen. he is black and a teen and must be a thug. >> it's unreasonable fear. >> it's a race dispute. >> don and sunny -- >> i think if you say it's unreasonable, you're ignoring some of the same things that you argue. >> exactly. >> if you look at the reasonableness of it, if in fact we have a system that brings blacks into the system more and a part of that percentage is that blacks bring themselves into the system more, social logical reasons. if they are in the system more than some of that fear would be argued to be reasonable because of the slew of young black males in the system. it's a circular -- >> hang on -- >> you can't say it's completely unreasonable -- >> what? >> it's unrational.

>> it's not unreasonable if you are in the criminal justice every day. these same prosecutors cut their teeth every day demonizing young black males as super predator. when you talk about thug. you know where i hear it used the most, from prosecutors who are prosecuting my clients or mark's clients who are young black males. you sit in any courtroom and the guys who are the revolving door, the people who are the fodder for the criminal justice system are young black males. it is disproportionately. >> i'm not saying -- >> we don't get it -- >> i don't get it. >> the criminal justice system does nothing but demonize young black males. they are a -- they're kind of the boogie man of the criminal court system.

>> jeff, go ahead. >> i never want to doubt dark's cynicism. it's vindicated as it was in this case but it's i do think most of the time the criminal justice system involves prosecuting people who are legitimately accused of crime. i don't think this is a large scale demonization project. >> if you saw some of the arguments that routinely get used in a courtroom by prosecutors when it's directed at a young black -- >> but michael dunn is not in courtrooms every day. he is in his racist world looking at a kid and calling him a thug. >> let mark finish. >> michael dunn is in a world that -- i live in that world more often than not amongst -- behind closed doors, guys like michael dunn exist and they exist all throughout america and this idea that the criminal justice system is separate from

that or we are beyond race is a joke. >> we're not beyond race. >> there is a world where people -- hang on, mark. >> there is a world of people like michael dunn who exist. and people refuse to talk about it. >> that we will never hear. >> it's not politically correct because people are afraid to say it. but there is -- it exists. it exists and you know, this guy is only 46. we are not talking about someone who is 76. he is ten years younger than me. and this is somebody to hear his fiance or his neighbor -- his neighbor especially tonight was stunning in terms of the guy he presented on the stand -- >> so given the system as mark describes it here, what do you do about it? >> that's the question i'm asking myself as a mother. i'm trying to raise children that are respectful and honorable and well educated and good citizens. but if people can't see that because of the color of their

skin, i don't know what to do about it. and i spent so much of my career as a prosecutor, yes, putting black boys and teens in jail. putting white teens in jail. >> can i suggest there was a difference where you were. >> i was in washington. >> d.c. has predominantly black on black crime in the d.c. courts. >> that's accurate. >> that's a different animal than what we are talk about here. >> mark, how slow does a young black kid have to walk before he's not a threat within this system? >> unfortunately because of the prejudices in our society. do you think that cops look at young black males differently than they should? >> absolutely. >> do you think potential employers look at young black males different than they should? >> absolutely. >> i'm not saying that dunn is appropriate in what he says is

reasonable, we have to attack the fact that dunn thinks he was reasonable in considering that the four black males in the car was trouble. he was wrong but if we don't address the concern about that issue we can talk about changing statutes all the time it's not going to change the people. i'm not saying we have a perfect answer but we have to get to it and we have to change the way the people look at the system rather than change the laws. >> we have a lot more to talk about here. we will come back to this discussion. we are just scratching the surface. there is a lot going on right now including an interview with george zimmerman, speak out for the first time, seven months after a jury acquitted him. he talks about whether his thought these days include regret for taking the life that he took. stay with us. hey guys! sorry we're late.

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just days before the michael dunn verdict came out, george zimmerman talked about his own trial. he says he has been victimized by everyone from the president to on down. you will hear what else he had to say shortly but first the similarities between the two cases.

two black men dead, claims of self-defense disputed. but there are deep differences. gary tuchman explains. >> in the trials, there were far more differences than similarities. the first were the crimes themselves and the immediate aftermath. danny is a criminal defense attorney. >> in zimmerman you have a man who fired a shot and waited to talk to police. in the dunn case you have a man who fired ten shots and took off and never called police. >> there was no physical contact between mr. dunn and jordan davis. >> zimmerman having injuries is a major differences between the cases. it makes the concept of self-defense more palatable there is a fight taking place. in the michael dunn matter, you

have jordan davis and michael dunn in two vehicles. they never come into contact with each other. the concept that someone needed to shoot nine, ten times to defend themselves is farfetched. >> and then the key witness. remember the friend of trayvon martin that was on the phone with him. >> you don't know the person. trayvon did not know him. >> in the michael dunn case the three young men in the car when jordan davis was killed. >> i went to check and see if he had a pulse. >> and what did you find? >> i did not feel one. >> there was a big difference in the caliber of those witnesses. >> we made a big deal about rachel genteel and how inarticulate she was and how the difficulties understanding what she was saying.

but in the dunn trial we have these three young men who have been through a horrific experience. >> and finally the issue of the defendants taking the stand. zimmerman did not and dunn did. >> you said it looked like a shotgun? >> it was thick enough profile. it was a 12 gauge, to my eye, or 20. >> there is no evidence that anyone shot him or showed him a gun. so the only person on earth who can convince a jury that dunn is in fear for his life is dunn himself. there is no other evidence. they have to put him on the stand. >> when you take the stand, your testimony can be contradicted. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a gun in that red suv? >> no. >> did the defendant ever tell you he saw a weapon of any kind

in that suv? >> no. >> as she came across as credible witness who unfortunately for dunn is devastating to his case. >> but not devastating enough to convict him on the charge of murder. while there were key differences in the cases, there is key similarity, outrage over the verdict. gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> that is the backdrop here. this is what george zimmerman said when asked if the martin family is in his thoughts. >> his family, do you think about his family? is that true? >> certainly, yes. >> because people want to know that, right? coming out of this situation they haven't heard you say i feel for his family. >> i appreciate the opportunity. i would hope they would see the bond hearing i addressed that. >> it's different in court. >> sure. but i did address it. because another misconception is that i never apologized and

never reached out to the family. would i like to? certainly. >> what would you say? >> you know -- i would say exactly what i said on the stand, that i'm sorry for their loss and -- i -- just exactly what i said on the stand most likely. >> that's far from all he said. chris got a good look at what makes george zimmerman tick. we talked about it earlier today. >> i know that george zimmerman claimed he could not answer every question and had to be careful about what he said because of the civil rights investigation. but his answers were incredibly revealing for the words he chose to use and the ones he didn't choose to use.

>> i think you're spot on. the silence when he is given an opportunity to address the family speaks volumes. often silence can do that. i think it's because he is torn. he knows the right things to say but he doesn't want to say them because he doesn't feel it. he believes he was a victim and it saved his life. it's hard for him to apologize when he believes he has nothing to apologize for. >> this is the first time we have heard from him in some time. it was interesting to hear these questions to him. they weren't trick questions, in some cases that brought the most surprising answers. >> the word "haunted" often comes up in these situations. do you find yourself haunted by memories of that night? >> no. >> because? >> i don't know. >> that just jumped off the screen. people are haunted by casual events. he shot and killed a man but is

not haunted by that. >> it goes to -- not again. it's a different point. one of the things you think you are going to get is, he is a calculated person and that's what people say about him. i found him to be much less than that. the right answer is to say yes, i'm haunted. but he doesn't say those things. i think it's honest and in its honesty it is revealing of a shallowness that he has of a sense of guilt and a sense of pain about the other person involved. it's just not there. >> is there conflict inside him about anything? >> the conflict is i need to be polite about this when i'm in the right. and plenty of people tell him that. when we were in florida a lot of people from the african-american community were fired up about him to this minute and detest

what he did. but there were a lot of people who said don't forget about our rights and that what he did was legal. just because some don't like it, you can't get of our rights. when you is poorly defined laws. this is an evaluation of jurisprudence. >> what did he say about the michael dunn trial? >> nothing. he said i only watch comedies and home improvement shows. those around him echo the sentiment. again that goes to a lack of his interest in these things that supposedly he's the face of. i asked him about self-defense law.

how about stand your ground do you like being the face? i don't like being the face of anything. on each of these levels, he's just not there. he's being given too much credit for gaming the system. george zimmerman had a much stronger case than michael dunn on the facts. in just about any state, george zimmerman would have had a strong case. >> because there was a fight. >> there was an actual fight. he should have listened to 911. but the duty to retreat is the difference. in florida you have no responsibility to retreat. if we get in a situation, in florida you don't have to go anywhere. you can meet force with force right there. other states you are supposed to try to get away. that's important, because when you take that out, that responsibility to retreat, you

take out thinking. when you take out thinking about your actions you increase the chance of recklessness. you start rewarding stupidity. but george zimmerman had a stronger case. michael dunn was a shock. i didn't think the jury would accept the nonexistence of a fact. maybe there was a gun and they didn't lock down the scene enough. >> as always you can find out more on this story at cnn.com. just ahead, the attorney for trayvon martin's family talks about race and justice and the mistrial on the michael dunn murder charge. are the cases as similar as they seem on the face of it? a scathing report on the brutality of the north korean regime. stay with us. peace of mind is important when you're running a successful business. so we provide it services you can rely on. with centurylink as your trusted it partner, you'll experience reliable uptime for the network and services you depend on.

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we're back now with our special report, race and justice in america. in the wake of the mistrial in michael dunn's murder charge some people are asking where is the justice for unarmed black teenagers gunned down by white men in a state that gives shooters wide latitude in the name of self-defense. it wasn't so long ago that the trayvon martin case was racing the same question. >> if you reverse the roles and

jordan davis kill an unarmed michael dunn or trayvon martin kill an unarmed george zimmerman, where aren't they convicted of first degree murder. we are troubled as black parents and professionals and lawyers saying when does the system for us equally like your children? >> a lot of comparisons have been made. but as we said for all their similarities, the two case also have some key differences. let's bring in the panel. jeff, first of all, you do say there is a key difference. >> big, big difference. i was very torn in the zimmerman trial about whether he was guilty or not. i thought that was a very tough case for the prosecution. i thought there was never a clear picture of how this -- how the interaction started between the two of them.

there was mystery there. but with the dunn trial, that was an open and shut case. >> but you say they are the same case. >> and the root of the case is the fear, again, of the black teen. trayvon martin walking home with skittles and iced tea unarmed. zimmerman sees him thinks he is a thug. a group of black kids in a car playing loud music, they must have a shotgun. if we are being honest these two cases are exactly the same and they are only tied together by the fact that florida has stand your ground. i wanted to ask mark o'mara, so many people talking about michael dunn say it's not stand your ground case. in florida every case is a stand your ground case because it is codified in the law.

>> self-defense use of deadly force or nondeadly force, the way the statute reads you get that sentence in there that says you have no duty to retreat. you can stand your ground. here is a solution. let's do it together, you ready? there is no reason why that sentence should be in a jury instruction if there are no facts that support the contention of stand your ground. so i believe it should be taken out of the jury instruction and only put in if the facts support it. we do that with many other injury instructions. that would take the issue out. i don't think the zimmerman jury or the dunn jury got confused by it. >> i think they understood that. >> but i hear you. if we take that out nobody could say that there is confusion because it won't be there.

on the stand your ground cases i still think that before a jury says we will believe that you were reasonable in your fear and that you're allowed to stand your ground they are still going to focus on the reasonableness of the fear. they don't think if you are reasonable in your fear they won't care about stand your ground. >> don i hear you sighing. >> we are so far in the weeds on this. this is basically -- for me. i get what you are saying about the legal system. that teen was not in the legal system before this. this is before you get to the legal system, the perception that -- hang on -- the perception that people have about young black men. to me this is about entitlement and a lack of awareness. i'm entitled to treat you a certain way because i view the world in a certain way. this is my world. i'm unaware that the demographics of this country are changing. and they are not in my favor.

subconsciously i'm unaware of. that it's about entitlement -- >> i can tell you to turn my music down. >> or you can attack me because i'm a young black person and it's not just about age and the number. when i speak of old white guys i'm talking about people who have an old mentality. >> and sadly, the jurors believed they are entitled to behave that way and they must have been afraid. >> you see people like that all over. you see them in the media, old white guys trying to claw their way back by attack other people who speak out. >> i think you're just going a little bit too far. because in this sense, we can talk about the jury instructions. that doesn't matter. i knew before this case started it was a hung jury. all i had to do was look at the demographic. all you need to know is when they go back into that jury

room, who do they identify with? if you have older white guys on that jury they're not going to identify with davis but with fear and this guy. that's what exists in america. so all of this beyond race or we're here or there or we're going to educate it's nonsense. >> let's leave it on that kernel of agreement. thank you so much for being with us. really appreciate it. great discussion tonight. coming up, a kentucky pastor who started a show about snake handling in church dies from a snakebite after refusing to be treated. we'll take you inside a similar service to see why snakes are a part of the service despite the obvious dangers. that's next. huh...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller?

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a kentucky pastor has died after being bitten by a snake at the church where handling poisonous snakes was a part of his worship. he died at his home after denying medical treatment. he knew the danger involved in snake handling. he had been bitten about half a dozen times before and recovered. this time, the rattlesnake bite proved fatal. he starred alongside pastor hamlin on "snake salvation." in 2012, glare are tuchman went to hamlin's church to figure out why a mall group of people still

handle snakes as a part of their service. >> reporter: the area is quiet just before the service, except for this creature inside a locked box. it's a rattlesnake and it's rattling. it's one of seven deadly snakes about to be used in a wild ceremony in god's name. ♪ >> this is pastor andrew hamlin, a 21-year-old serpent handling pastor in tennessee. he, his wife, and the rest of this congregation practice christianity much differently than many of their christians. using venomous snakes as part of their service. why? they point to the new testament, the gospel of mark. it's stated in part, they shall take up serpents. believers say when god anoints them, they have an obligation to do this, and god will protect

them. even if they are bitten, their belief is god will heal them. no doctors necessary. if it looks dangerous, that's because it is. it's also illegal in the state of tennessee. but that only strengthens the pastor's conviction. snake handling in churches is a tradition in decline. >> it's against the law to have snakes in a church in tennessee. does that concern you? >> no, sir, it doesn't. if someone wants to get bit and die, i know the authorities would come in on us and shut us down. that's why i stress so much to my people to make sure. if it's their appointed time to die, there's nothing i can do to prevent it. >> this is not a con game. these snakes are poisonous. they can kill and they do kill. just a few weeks ago, the pastor of this church was bitten by a rattlesnake during his service. the pastor initially refused medical care. as he got seriously ill, he gave

his permission to go do a hospital. but it was too late, he died the same day. the pastor's father died the same way three decades earlier. pastor wolford died after his 44th birthday. outsiders were not invited to the funeral. but perhaps it's not surprising that the funeral home tells us that snakes were a part of the grave-side ceremony. >> any time it could turn on me and bite me. but like i said, the lord, will let it bite or won't let it bite. he'll let it hurt or not let it hurt. it's all up to god. >> roy lee christian junior is the assistant pastor at another church in west virginia, he was at the service where his friend was fatally bitten. he's shocked and saddened, but his faith remains the same. >> it says, they shall take up serpents. that doesn't mean you have to, does it? is that your interpretation that

you must take up serpents? >> if you believe the word of god strong enough, and you really believe it, and the lord moves on you, you'll do it. >> back in tennessee, the pastor says he's been bitten four times in two years. he says he almost died after the first bite and says he's prepared to lose his life from a snakebite if god determines that's how he should go. >> i realize that, and i thought about, i have. i really thought about it, that's why it pays to be ready spiritually. >> another verse states that faith quench the violence of fire. so that's why this test of faith happens in many of these services. this is called handling fire. people burning their hands, arms and other body parts with flames shooting out of bottles. >> are you ever worried that seeing people burn themselves and the snakes will frighten your children? >> no. not really. >> how come?

>> when god's in it, there ain't no harm in it. >> this woman had been crying during much of the service, the pastor saying she had been going through some emotional difficulties. she then took to the alter, grabbing a rattlesnake and shaking it with abandon, daring the snake to sink its teeth into her skin. to us, it looked like she had no idea about the personal risk. the pastor claims god anointed her to handle this deadly snake. >> i'll stand before christ jesus and i'll be judged according to my works on this earth. the people we talked to at this church know what happened to the pastor in west virginia, that risk won't stop them from coming back to this church, looking for salvation in ways both unusual and illegal. gary tuchman, cnn, tennessee. coming up, inmates in north korean prison camps so desperate for food they eat live worms

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regime subjects its people to. >> absolutely, john. we really haven't seen this kind of report before. the stories themselves may have been heard before and are shocking. but to put them all together catalogs unspeakable atrocities. they still have family in north korea and they were concerned there would be reprisals against their family. some of this testimony is horrifying. the chair of the commission was driven to tears by some of it. one woman says a fellow prisoner gave birth to a child and was forced to drown that child in a bucket of water. she was begging to allow to keep the baby but she was beaten until she drowned the baby. quote, in most cases, guards at the detention facilities in which repatriated persons are

held force either the mother or a third person to kill the baby by drowning in water or suffocating it by holding a cloth or item against its face or putting the babyface down so it cannot breathe. we have heard about starvations and public executions in this camp. one man tried to escape and was caught. the inmates only received five spoons of boiled corn three times a day and witnessed 30 men dying during his time. the bodies were wrapped up and left for days for the other inmates to see. the guards told them this is what happens when you abandon your country. hundreds of testimony, just like this one. so certainly a horrifying report. but one that the u.n. says has to have international attention.

>> and just to be clear. this report is from the united nations. this is an official report. how did they get this information? >> it was mainly from defectors who escaped north korea and from witnesses inside the prison camps who had been tortured or starved within north korea itself and from evidence like satellite imagery and also from human rights groups. >> all right. this report is horrible. i'm sure there will be much more on it in the days ahead. that does it for us. thanks for watching. ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time, 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems. at boeing, one thing never changes. our passion to make it real.

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