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that's it for us. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts now. next, breaking news. violence spiraling out of control in kiev tonight. americans warned to stay indoors. the death toll rising tonight. we'll go there live. plus, show me the money. chris christie cancels a town hall today but has time for a fund-raiser. and mike rowe on his controversial walmart ad. why the champion for the working man is proud to be a sellout. let's go outfront".
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. we begin with breaking news. fierce and fiery clashes in kiev. the capital of ukraine. at least 21 dead and the toll is rising. more than 40 police officers, 150 protesters are reportedly injured tonight. these are live pictures that you are looking at in kiev. obviously in the early hours of tomorrow morning. the government cracking down ferociously on protesters who oppose the government's decision to alibi with vladamir putin's russia. vice president respect biden urged him to pull back forces. and to exercise maximum restraint. kiev which has the same population as chicago, as you can see, literally on fire tonight. our phil black is there on the scene and joins me on the scene tonight. phil, how do things look there now? >> erin, thousands of opposition >> arab, thousands of opposition protesters have fallen back to
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independence square in the city of the city and here set up lines and barricades, all involved some way in an effort to try and hold on to this space because we believe the security forces will try and force them out at some point during the night. at the front, there are young men with homemade shields and behind them, crowds of men and women of all ages beating them with supplies, stones, rocks, chipping away at the road and providing them with ammunition. lighting huge bonfires here, all of it a defensive effort to try and keep the security forces at bay in what has been the most deadly day of violence throughout this crisis. >> phil, obviously this crisis has been going on for several months but this has really tonight risen to a whole new level when you're looking at the dead and these bonfires throughout the city and as you said in independence square. is there an end in sight as to what aware seeing which is a ferocious standoff now in the streets? >> tonight we know that
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opposition party leaders are meeting with the president. they've been talking for some time now, talking for months really and have not been able to -- they want the president to go. they want new elections. they want this country to be closer to europe and he's resisted that. there is a hope i guess that after such a deadly day, after paying such a high price with at least 19 lives that it might inspire them to close the gap between them. but there is expectation as people stockpile rocks and am mission, they do not believe this can believe well. >> phil black, thank you very much. as we said on the scene, on the streets in kiev tonight. now to our other top story. show me the money right now, scandal plagued new jersey governor chris christie is behind closed doors at a big
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money private fund-raiser for senate republicans. this is taking place right now right behind these nondescript closed doors in manhattan. this is a live picture of the harvard club in new york city. the event is chock full of major republican supporters and lawmakers which include senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. for the second time in a row, christie postponed a town hall meeting which was scheduled for this morning. the reason given snowy weather conditions in the state. that's now rescheduled for thursday. when it happens, it will be the first time he faces questions in person from voters since the george washington bridge scandal exploded. he denies knowing anything about his administration's involvement in shutting down lanes on the bridge for political retribution. joining me now steve ot tote bat toe and paul begala. let me start with you, steve. postponing this town hall again, smart or not? especially on the same day you're meeting with very wealthy donors at the harvard club. >> it's complicated. the optics of it, i can
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understand the argument you're make thing doesn't look right. new jersey as someone had who had to get here to manhattan from new jersey, not easy. not making any excuses, but it is hard to get around. if you argue safety first, you want to make sure people can get there safely. i'll say this -- >> people coming to the town haul. you're saying that makes sense. >> here's the thing. you hold that town meeting thursday, there better be a pretty big storm if you're going to cancel it again and here's why. he needs to demonstrate that he is the governor governing the state. those town meetings were in fact, and you know this as well as i do, they were a key part of who he was in the first term and how he got to be the governor who got 62% of the vote over a democratic opponent, right? so he's got to hold that town meeting and answer all the questions. totally unscripted. right? and he's got to be that chris christie but i would argue a kinder, gentler chris christie meaning tough and strong but not as in your face, if you will. but he can't cancel again. he just can't.
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>> paul, can he do that? can he be that chris christie that steve is describing? >> well, you know, i think steve's exactly right. he has to be. i don't think he's got a kinder, gentler gear. >> oh, come on. you saw him after sandy. >> he was terrific after sandy, that's true. if he could go an hour at a town hall meeting and not call one of his own constituents an idiot, i'll be surprised and impressed. he's a real political talent. he has terrific talent. the fact he's being sidelined. the governor is up for re-election. would not appear with him. he present to the texas. barack obama lost texas to mitt romney by 16 points. the republicans there would not appear with him, not even rick perry who does a lot of dumb things. they're running from him like the devil runs from holy water. that's a real problem for republicans when one of their most talented politicians is sidelined. he can raise a lot of money and that's great but he's fighting with one hand tied behind his back.
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>> paul, i hear what you're saying. you know the democratic side well. here's the thing. the republicans want chris christie out there. he raised a record $6 million on behalf of the republican governor's association in january. that's twice the amount, if i'm not mistaken, twice the amount anybody ever raised in that position as head of the republican governors association. the question is, how do you continue to raise that money while some republican candidates running for governor are like we'll take the money, but listen, we don't have to take the picture, do we? over time, that's going to be a problem. chris christie knows that. my opinion is this. chris christie needs to get the message you want the money, you can't be running from me. and i'm telling you, they want that money. and that doesn't mean they know everything that's happened here or they know how it's going to end. you can't be running from someone if you're going to take their money. >> what also seems interesting, there are plenty of republicans out there, some of whom want to
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run against christie in the 2016 election. >> the presidential. >> right. they clearly, they're happy sort of that this is all happening right now, right? but as long as money matters and money is what matters, is that going to be what determines his fate? as long as he can still raise money, he's going to be the front runner? forget what the polls say right now. >> even before the bridge scandal, i've been a dissenter about the notion of christie being the republicans' nominee. i could be wrong, i often am. i never thought, first off, i think he's too regional. i didn't believe he would play well in the south and the midwest. i think it's very likely if he gets out there, he does the same schtick that worked so well in new jersey calling his citizens idiots and does that a nice lady in ottumwa, iowa? no way. for his party, he's a little too moderate. he took the obama money on medicaid. he hugged president obama on sandy. he's got positions where the
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base -- >> incredibly tight gun laws. some of the tightest in the country. >> i think -- i do not think chris christie, the idiot thing you keep repeating, i hear you. my opinion over the top. i believe chris christie understands some of that language is not only over the top but inappropriate and he can still be a tough, strong, aggressive governor without being rude to people. i think he can pull it off. i think he knows he has to pull it off, particularly now. >> let me ask you about his two-time campaign manager. he fired him aggressively. >> bill stepien. >> bill stepi nervegs y and bridget kelly. my question to you is why. there's still this question that people have there might it be something to hide no matter how much the governor denies it. >> anyone who says they know why bill stepien or anyone else is pleading the fifth or fourth
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amendment, you'd better be his lawyer. i don't know why. but i'll say this. there's the legal process, the legal court system. you have every right to do that constitutionally. if you're the lawyer, you may say listen, let's work out a deal. in the court of public opinion, let's not kid ourselves, and christie knows this, sooner or later, those people keep adding up who say i'm going to plead the fifth, the fourth, it doesn't look good. it looks like there's something to hide particularly because the governor has said i want my people to cooperate. to the average person, pleading the fourth fourth and fifth amendment doesn't look like that. people have to start cooperating and cooperating to me means turning everything over. >> right. thanks very much to both of you. we appreciate it. interesting paul's thing that he frontrunner status. certainly the polls show that right now. >> i don't think the republicans are burning it up with any hot candidates on the other side. >> the star of "dirty jobs" mike rowe called a sellout for teaming up with walmart. tonight he responds. plus, a vase worth $1 million smashed in a museum. the entire thing caught on video
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trying to make a deal with the taliban. there is word tonight that the
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united states government is trying to negotiate the release of army sergeant bowe bergdahl who has been held by a taliban affiliated group for five years, the only known american prisoner in afghanistan. in exchange for bergdahl, the united states would reportedly free five senior taliban prisoners currently held at guantanamo bay. for his family in idaho, the wait is excruciating. ed lavandera begins our coverage now. >> reporter: the only snapshots we've seen of army sergeant bowe bergdahl in nearly five years are from a handful of videos posted by his captors. >> let me go. let me to go, just release, get meet to be released. >> reporter: his mother and father have waited and waited for their son's release. they live in the small town of hailey, idaho, this banner showed the weathered strains of this ordeal has hung outside the coffee shop where he worked before he joined the army.
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the family has mostly shunned the spotlight but occasionally speaks out publicly in hopes their son can hear their words. >> i will not leave you on the battlefield, beau. these people here will not leave you on the battlefield. your country will not leave you. you are not forgotten. >> robert bergdahl has become a self-made expert in the afghan and pakistani cultures, reading and teaching himself to speak pashtu, the language of his son's captors. but bowe bergdahl's parents have been here before, talk of a prisoner exchange between the united states and the taliban has come up many times in the past, each time the talks have fallen apart. the bergdahls released a statement on tuesday saying they are "cautiously optimistic these renewed talks will lead to their son's safe return." cnn national security analyst peter bergen says the time is right for the taliban to agree to a prisoner exchange.
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>> i think the timing is pretty good. the u.s. is the leaving afghanistan. they're pulling out combat forces. that's what the taliban wants. you know, the united states can sort of say well the war is winding down. at the end of every war we do a prisoner exchange. the politics around this is better. >> reporter: bowe bergdahl's picture sits in the u.s. military central command's offices. a reminder the fight to bring him home isn't over. >> have faith. do good works. continue to tell the truth. but above all, have the patience that can be only come from god. we are being tested and god tests those who he knows can persevere. >> reporter: it's a test of emotional endurance for bowe bergdahl's family, waiting nearly five years to hold their son again. ed lavandera, cnn, dallas.
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>> gunny sergeant duff is a 20-year veteran of the marine corps. press secretary jay carney today said the u.s. isn't actively negotiating with the taliban but clearly something is going on. i really appreciate you taking the time. everyone feels for the family here. they've been missing their son for five years. apparently though bergdahl walked away from his base. it's unclear what the circumstances were. should that have any influence on whether the united states does a deal with the taliban to get his release? >> this is definitely very emotional for the family and however, our military forces are fully aware, when you abandon post you put yourself at great risk, such as this. he has not been declared a prisoner of war by d.o.d. his whereabouts are unknown. that's how he's classified. for the past three years, this has been a dilemma. if we look at releasing prisoners in guantanamo bay, we need to understand these are some of the most egregious of all the prisoners left and remaining. we've already found 60 of them
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return to the battlefield that we had released. 30 of them d.o.d. has listed by name. are we going to look at more americans and our allies slaughtered and killed by the terrorists? these are the worst of the worst remaining in guantanamo. >> look, a lot of people share your point of view but when you think about it this way, there have been at least half a dozen prison breaks in iraq, libya, pakistan, yemen. thousands of terrorists have escaped over the past year. the numbers are stunning. there are prison breaks happening. you might look at it this way. will trading five more really make the world more dangerous for the united states? >> you know, that's somewhat insulting though to those that sacrificed their lives. we have 6800 dead in iraq and afghanistan. we have close to 400 who have -- 400,000 that have traumatic injuries. we're talking about missing limbs and brain injury. tell that to their families. because the reality is, that would be like releasing a murderer in the backyard of any one of us. we would be appalled.
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they have slaughtered our own. so this is troubling when we look at the outcome to release him and have further future death. >> so but the bottom line is, do you think that then the u.s. government should just let him stay there? >> you know, this is troubling. i don't want to see him stay there. i don't think anybody wants to see him in this situation. yet, it is causing a great dilemma for all of us observing from the outside and our government officials. it has been very turbulent with car zichlt he could have helped us negotiate with pakistan. the past two administrations have allowed this to become very, very tedious and at best difficult. >> thank you very much. gunnery sergeant jesse jane duff. appreciate your taking the time. i want to emphasize we don't know exactly why sergeant bergdahl left that base that night. tonight, the white house stressing military action is off the table when it comes to ending the civil war in syria. that conflict has been captured in a photograph, an image we showed you last night.
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this syrian child surrounded by u.n. workers as he trudged through the desert in jordan. his family we were told at the time when this picture was released was nowhere for seen. but sometimes a picture shows only one angle. bill, you really took the time to look into this. it was a little bit different than you thought but still very poignant. >> i'm sure as a new mom it touched you, the way it did with me. it just set my heart right into my throat. i've been obsessed all day. little boy, big desert. according to the u.n. worker that took that picture, according to him, that little boy is 4 and lives on the other side of that big desert, which happens to be arguably the worst place in the world, syria. a place where men from the government fill giant barrels with explosives and rusted nails and light a fuse and kick it out of a helicopter to the neighborhoods below. it's like a star wars cantina of
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freedom fighters and jihadists, impossible to tell the good buys from the bad guys. thousands have fled, including this little guy, who got separated from his family. and somehow, that's the photograph that absolutely jammed me inside. grant it, it's not as iconic, it's not as horrific as this one. her name is kim. when she was 9, south vietnamese planes napalmed her village. she's beautiful, right? so if kim can get out of that hell, maybe there's hope for this little boy. but where is his family? a wave of concern followed that picture around the world. he had been reunited shortly after the border, but how long was he out there alone?
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you can see him straggling, straggling, separated but not alone, which brings relief, followed by conspiracy theories. another attempt of propaganda to march against syria? if so, your image fails tweeted bruno at the u.n. we know that richard nixon, when he saw those pictures of kim burned from napalm said, i wonder if that was fixed. as if anyone needed to manufacture the horror of vietnam. so the insinuation is that this little boy is some sort of wag the dog prop. remember the movie? dusten hoffman, the director, used an actress and computer generated cat to beat the drums of war. after a dozen years, it will take a lot more than this to convince anyone that this is a smart move to invade syria.
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as long as russia keeps propping up the chinless eye doctor turned tie rant, bashar al asad, the bullets will keep flying. but that doesn't mean we can't rally around the survivors. i talked to a brain scientist who said it helps for us to focus on the little stories that make sense. kind of the way mahalia, when she was 11, she began blogging about life with the pakistan. just 14 when they shot her in the head. she survived and became a symbol of strength. where was she yesterday? on the syrian-jordan border, greeting refugees, helping them grieve, helping them carry their stuff. so while diplomats argue about stop thing war, all we can do is root for the kims and the marwas, and the people out there devoting their lives to try and
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help them. >> pretty amazing when you look at that picture. >> and it's interesting to know that neither bashar al assad or any of his top deputies, none of them have visited these refugee catches in lebanon or turkey or jordan. it's just going to go on. >> thank you very much, bill. appreciate it. still to come, the host of dth dirty jobs" responds to his critics. and was jimmy fallon a hit or a miss? jeanne moos investigates. and mountain wave turbulence, ever heard the term? and could it hit your next flight?
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and welcome back to the second half of outfront". mountain wave turbulence. that is apparently what may have hit a united airlines flight carrying 119 people when it was about to landed in billings, montana monday night. experts say this happens when wind blows over the top of a mountain that can cause planes to surge or plunge 1,000 feet. united is looking into the incident. it's clear passengers though were caught utterly offguard. >> in that split second, we were
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tilting to the far right. and plunging, and it was just instantaneous. everything that everybody had in their hands were flying through the air. >> seems remarkably calm when you consider the fear you might have. five were taken to the hospital. one woman hit the ceiling she cracked it will panel above her head. and a vase valued at $1 million created by ai weiwei has been destroyed by a fellow artist. we'll show you the video. you can see this man. miami's museum casually pick up the vase and let it go. you can see the pleasure with which he did it, too. he was protesting the museum's decision to only display international art. ai weiwei told cnn "the protest may be valid but to damage somebody's work do that is questionable." that's a pretty kind response. i would have used a word much stronger than "questionable." the vandal has been charged with criminal mischief. is the working man's champion selling out to walmart? you bet he is. we're talking about mike rowe.
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as we first told you last week, rowe the former host of "dirty jobs" has come under fire for narrating a walmart ad pledging to buy more american made goods. >> we will build things and build families and build dreams because work is a beautiful thing. >> now, to understand some of the outrage over rowe's role in that commercial, you first need to know more about how rowe got to where he is today. >> what is this? >> mike rowe doesn't mind getting dirty. the former host of the discovery channel's hit reality show "dirty jobs" has pretty much seen it all. >> welcome to hell. >> from working at a sewage treatment plant to drilling for oil to caring for camels. >> 98.6. this camel's a person. >> all in the name of showcasing the grimiest, slimiest, not to mention smelliest jobs in the
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world. >> lovely. the lava lamp. >> his tv career began as a pitch man for qvc. after three years of selling everything, he landed major gigs on "shark week," deadliest catch, american shopper, even sesame street. >> what kind of dirty job do you do? >> he has used his celebrity status to be a voice for the working man. in 2008 he launched the website mikeroweworks.com to help promote blue collar jobs and in many 2012, he joined mitt romney on the campaign trail to get people interested in construction and manufacturing. >> a man who cares about the american worker like almost no one else, my friend, mike rowe. >> but now mike rowe's commitment to average joe is being called into question. critics say he's a corporate sellout for teaming up with walmart on this commercial. >> it's time to get back to what america does best. >> critics blasted rowe on social media, writing "i've
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looked up to you for the longest time. what happened to your support of the underdogs? sad times, mike." and mike rowe joins me now. all right. what happened to your support of the underdog, sad times, mike writes kevin? and you say to him? >> kevin, listen, what are you -- people find what they look for, right? you can look at "dirty jobs" and you can see an honest tribute to hard-working skilled labor. that's exactly what it was. but it was also a tribute to risk and entrepreneurship and business. there was always two sides of the same coin. so for me, i've never looked at it as selling in or selling out. it's just work, and the idea that you can either be on the employee's side or the employer's side, it's a bad choice. you know? and i just don't want to make it. >> i want to just make it clear here because you were there with mitt romney on stage. you never endorsed him, right? >> no. >> some people might be going okay, this guy's a republican
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and this is -- you're saying no. you didn't endorse anyone. >> right now what's going on in the country as i'm sure you know, there are certain things, if you touch them, people immediately can't hear what you say. what they're going to do is they're going to look at who you're talking to. a couple months ago, i did an appearance with bill maher on hbo and later in the same week, glenn beck. we talked about the same exact stuff, manufacturing, skilled labor. we talked about college debt. we talked about all these things. same stuff i've been talking about since i started the foundation back in 2008. but the explosion didn't come from anything anybody said. it just came from who i was talking to. it's the same thing with walmart. you know? i think my comment to kevin was, you know, it's a hell of a thing when somebody you've been trained not to like suddenly does something that you actually agree with. it's cognitive dissonance and it forces you to look at american manufacturing as separate and apart from really everything. >> now, some of the other
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comments, not just kevin, someone wrote rome apple. it's hypocrisy. walmart's products are all made in china. walmart contributes to the empty factories. what's so powerful about an ad that makes no sense. i looked at the numbers. from 2001 to 2006, these are the latest numbers, not up to date, 133,000 u.s. manufacturing jobs were lost to china because of walmart. so what do you say when someone comes to you and says, you're supposed to want jobs in the u.s. walmart's not doing that. >> i'm not a spokesman for walmart. i'm a spokesman for american manufacturing. self-appointed, maybe. but i'm a fan. when a company has a reputation, deservedly or not for doing a thing a lot of people disagree with suddenly does a thing people have been calling for for decades. >> investing $250 billion in the u.s. manufacturing like they say. >> it's a quarter of a trillion dollars. it's like a po to the u.s. economy for a quarter of a trillion dollars.
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now, there are a number of ways. if you want to twist yourself, to feel bad about that. but you can also step back and go, you know something? i hope it works. >> are you proud of that? or does any of this -- let's go with the numbers. 7 million people have seen this on facebook. half a million people are involved in this conversation with you. a lot of them mad, some are defending you. are you going to say, i'm still proud that i did that ad? >> of course. here's my favorite part. you have to think of it in terms of pr and the big criticism is, it's just a pr campaign, dude. they're using you for pr. >> people say too that to you. >> i say sure they are. don't you think maybe it's possible i'm using that, as well? what's it take for me to get on your show? i have to have somebody somewhere get suddenly upset because something feels counterintuitive. now i get a chance to talk about my non-profit foundation and talk about skilled labor, work ethic scholarships, a whole list of things that i genuinely believe are decent for the country.
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>> still to come, much more of our conversation with mike rowe because i wanted to ask him about something really important we've been talking about on this show which is whether he agrees with this. >> this country should not talk about envy of the 1%. it should talk about emulating the 1%. the 1% work harder. n a for a fi. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers.
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we're back with mike rowe. i want to get your take on this. >> this country should not talk about envy of the 1%. it should talk about emulating the 1%. the 1% work harder. we've got a country that the poverty level is wealth in 99% of the rest of the world. so we're talking about how woe is us, the guy that's making oh, my god, he's making $35,000 a year. why don't you try that out in india or some countries we can't name or something like that, china, any place. >> what i really think is, it should be like a corporation. if you pay $1 million in taxes, you should get 1 million votes. how is that? >> let's start with that one. >> good luck with that.
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>> i mean, what do you think? these guys are saying they're being picked on. >> i'm with the middle guy in the sense that you have to decide how bad you want to feel in advance of making your argument. context matters. so if you're going to talk about the 1%, you can't do it in a vacuum. is it the 1% of the united states or the 1% of the world? we're in a global economy. i mean, i'm no economist but i'm pretty sure we compete globally. we import, we export. that's how we measure ourselves and our country. but how come when we're talking about who's in the 1% and who's not, we're not looking at the population of the globe? why do we suddenly narrow it to our country. i'm happy to have the conversation about let's talk about the country. you have to decide going in first, what's the context. >> he's saying what he's saying is true. if they lived in those other countries and made the salary they make here, they'd be wealthy. it seems insensitive to say that. they don't live there. they can't go there. they make minimum wage in this country and can't buy the things they need.
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>> it's a trap, right? because whenever your argument depends upon some kind of relative comparison, you need to defend the fact that you're making the comparison in the relative way that you are. so it falls in my opinion, and again, what do i know? look, i've spent ten years crawling through sewers, painting bridges, sexing chickens, milking camels. i work with people who don't have time to talk about who's goit worse and who's got it better. the jobs on "dirty jobs" to a t were opportunities. and that was the big lesson. that's what people looked at. it wasn't about there's more over here, less over here. it was about what can i do to advance faster. >> so then on that front, let's talk about the minimum wage. because there's a huge fight in washington going on about this. the president wants to raise it to $10.10 an hour. the cbo came out today and said if you do that, you have some jobs that go away but you will reduce poverty. do you believe that?
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is raising the minimum wage a smart thing to do? >> i'm so flattered that you would ask me that. you know who i am, right? i'm a simple man. >> i mean, and i know this because i thought about how i phrased it. you're not an economist. but you've worked with people. are people going to suddenly say, i'm going to work harder? are they going to lose their jobs? what do you think from those jobs you looked at. >> my foundation awards work ethic scholarships because i do believe in a very general way that we get the kind of behavior we reward. so scholarships can reward academia, they can reward athleticism or talent or need. i prefer to reward work ethic. so to answer your question, in a general way, i do believe we confuse causes and symptoms a lot. and i think right now, a lot of things we talk about as problems, a crumbling infrastructure, a widening skills gap, a trillion dollars in student loans, i think all these things might be symptoms of what we believe and how we feel and the way we've been
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trained to think. it's just a theory. i don't know. but that was my lesson on "dirty jobs." people used to ask me all the time, how come everybody's laughing? how come everybody's having such a good time on your show? they're covered in crap or something worse. the truth is, because so many of those people had prospered doing a thing that the majority of us would never contemplate. >> and they took -- there was some sort of i'm sure a real pride in that. >> you were going to say perverse pride and you're right. >> some of the jobs were rather perverse was the only thing i was thinking. >> it's more about taking the reverse commute and feel shrewd about doing it. i believe that's. >> that's an interesting analogy. let me just also have you weigh in on this show because both these people may be running for president. what they both had to say on income equality is important. let me play that. the middle class is being
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clobbered. they talk about the fact that we shouldn't be talking about income inequality. i think it would be a sin if we didn't talk about income inequality. >> you want income inequality? that's mediocrity. everybody can have a equal, mediocre salary. that's what we can afford. or do you want the opportunity for greatness. >> who's right? i think the last guy a little bit more only because i think it's -- >> don't tell me you don't know who that guy is. >> i just drove across the gw bridge. only took me 20 minutes. i'm okay. the thing is the idea that everybody who's poor and everybody in the middle and everybody who's wealthy stays there their whole life, that i don't believe. there's a lot of moving back and forth. i think it's dangerous to say in this spot. >> i took a very perverse pleasure in doing a very dirty
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job you've done. we got the video here of this particular job? >> i can't even imagine. >> there's you. that's a camel. there you go. >> look at you. >> i've milked a camel. >> you are like wrapped in bubble wrap. look at you. you look like a giant q-tip. are you going to crawl inside the thing? that's extraordinary. that's commitment. that's no minimum wage gig, erin. >> thank you very much. >> you should talk to your boss. call osha. there's going to be overtime, perks. and get the camel's name. you're going to be very popular on the farm. >> thank you very much. all right. 89-year-old actress appeared on the "today" show this morning. and it didn't go as planned. >> elaine, you are so beloved,
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but as much for your work, of course, but for your mouth. >> yes. >> you say whatever you want to say. when did -- >> and thank god it hasn't been not past on television. if you just say things naturally, it's fine. they just think and [ bleep ]. >> oh, dear, oh, dear. >> she's fantastic. >> she said the f word. hoda and kathie lee, flustered. some were offended. not elaine, who tweeted, love these broads, but no "f"-ing way they get the last word. >> dozens of people were forced from their homes. >> i don't know where we're going. neither does jim. i can't get this [ bleep ] in there. >> we apologize for that. >> and getting less. we'll tell you how to get the
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most. what the [ bleep ] are you doing? >> we'll be back tomorrow. >> get the [ bleep ] out of here. >> teens are having [ bleep ] -- having luck. >> [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ] you at the top of their lungs. >> [ bleep ] -- whoops. >> you don't know what the [ bleep ] you are talking about. >> y'all mother [ bleep ] don't watch us play throughout the year, to tell you the truth. >> got to love it, huh? >> i'll leave one word -- fantastic. >> i wish you had done it. >> never. >> maybe it's time we just chilled out about that word. "outfront" next, jeannie moose on jimmy fallon. of supercomputing time,
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""the tonight show."" jeanne moos has the story. >> reporter: when jimmy fallon looks back at his debut he'll remember his parents in the audience, will smith dancing at his side, and u 2 on the roof. while critics will remember it went -- >> fantastically. >> probably a b. >> he was a little nervous but a great show. >> reporter: how can it not be great, when fallon taunts against him who betted against him getting the show. de niro, tina fey, lady gaga, celeb after celeb with mariah carey pulling her cash out of her cleavage and sara jessica parker pulling hers from her shoes. >> welcome to 11:30. [ bleep ]! >> reporter: that's 1400 bucks.
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one unimpressed naysayer posted "when leno returns in 2016 i hope they all return to get their $100 back." the evolution of hiphop dancing instantly became a viral hit. though some sniffed that it was just a remake of a youtube classic called "evolution of dance by comedian judson lapley. previously fallon has don't evolution of dad dancing and the evolution of mom dancing with michelle obama, prompting judson lapley to thank fallon for the shoutout. some critics suggest fallon isn't shouting enough, that he's overplaying the role of humble ah shucks host. >> i'm jimmy fallon and i'll be your host for now. i really don't know how i got here. maybe i'll get here. >> reporter: "the l.a. times" noted that fallon changed the title of the show.
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this is "piers morgan live." breaking news tonight, at least 21 dead as police and protesters battle in the heart of a european capital 641 miles away from the olympics in sochi. we'll go live to ukraine and talk to former new york mayor rudy giuliani what this will mean for america. i'll ask ability his appearance on the new "tonight show" with jimmy fallon. a plastic surgeon is changing the lives of children bullied because of their looks. "covergirl" features a fetching cover. i'll talk to the supermodel who made the cover not once but twice. quite a rare event.