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this is "piers morgan live." breaking news tonight, at least 21 dead as police and protesters battle in the heart of a european capital 641 miles away from the olympics in sochi. we'll go live to ukraine and talk to former new york mayor rudy giuliani what this will mean for america. i'll ask ability his appearance on the new "tonight show" with jimmy fallon. a plastic surgeon is changing the lives of children bullied because of their looks. "covergirl" features a fetching cover. i'll talk to the supermodel who made the cover not once but twice. quite a rare event.
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paulina poroskkova. and my interview with bubba watson. he goes and gets his first win in two years after our interview. bubba is back tonight live presumably to thank me. i begin with break news. crisis in kiev. cnn's phil black is there. he joins me live on the phone. phil, what is the latest going on in kiev right now. >> reporter: right now, piers, it is 4:00 a.m. local time. and despite that there are still thousands of people here occupying independence square. they're all working one way or another. working to try and ensure they can continue to occupy and hold onto the square because they believe the security forces are going to be coming through sometime soon to drive them out. you've got people at the frontline manning shields, others literally tearing up the road creating piles of rubble to be used as ammunition. and now fuelling the big fires that can be seen burning here in
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the square. to keep those security forces out. >> phil, at its heart for viewers who are not perhaps completely savvy with what is happening here, what is this conflict about? >> reporter: it started a few months ago when the ukrainian government decided at the last minute that it would not pursue a closer relationship with europe and instead wanted to favor its relationship -- its historic relationship with russia and rebuild that relationship. move the economy closer to russia again. ukraine ace country that's really split down the middle between those who consider themselves ukrainian and close to europe, those who consider themselves closer to russia. so there is the divide. and the people on the street here and in other ukrainian cities are those that are so angry with the idea of moving closer to russia that they are prepared to really put their lives at risk and try and mount their own revolution, piers. >> very dangerous, fluid, volatile situation. phil black thank you very much.
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please stay safe there tonight. big story now, reaction to what we just heard from giuliani rudy giuliani. rudy welcome first of all. uprisings in kiev, venezuela. are there any parallels? what is going on in both these countries? >> there are parallels. one is much more long term than the other. the parallels are to a very autocratic, oppressive government where people are seeing what's going on in the rest of the world and want some freedom for themselves. in the case of the ukraine, it's a much deeper, longer struggle. these are people who have wanted to be part of the european union for the last 10, 12 years. the orange revolution. thought that they had kind of brought it there. unfortunately there were setbacks. and then yushenko won the election, probably a corrupt elections with putin kind of organizing things for him. the country was very much behind making moves to joint european union until russia came in and threatened them really.
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and i think what you see in the streets are people wanting to become a modern country. as long as they are under the domination of russia they will never be a modern country. as long as they're a quasi member of the soviet union, which is what they used to be, they're never going to be able to become a modern country. two-thirds of the country supports that, maybe even three quarters. >> at what point does the united states get involved in either what's happening in kiev or what's happening in venezuela? >> i think the administration has done a pretty good job. you know i don't say that too much, right? i think the administration has done a pretty good job of supporting the people in kiev and the people in the ukraine who want to join the european union in fact i think they're actually out in front of the european union which occasioned the comment about the european union that was so controversial. but i think kind of a source of frustration that europe wasn't helping us do enough. military action, maybe some support, maybe some help. i don't know you want to do a
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military invention. that would just invite a russian military intervention. >> rudy, i'm going to talk to later in the show a director of a powerful documentary oscar nominated about tahrir square and the uprising in egypt and all the consequences there. has not gone very smoothly, the transition to freedom and democracy, whatever you want to call it the arab spring. what are the lessons we can learn from egypt? in particular if you try to connect the dots here with other uprisings, kiev, venezuela, whatever. >> we have to know what we're replacing the bad guy with. in mubarek we went from bad to worse. and gadhafi possibly. kiev we really don't have that problem in kiev there is a very substantial two-thirds, three quarters of the population that would like to be a liberal democracy tied to europe. i don't think that issue exists in kiev. venezuela it may exist. venezuela we've been cut off from for a long time. there is a very large middle class in venezuela. there are a lot of of business interests in venezuela. my guess is if we could get rid
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of this government we would end up with a better government in venezuela. but that might have more of the risk that we see in egypt and some of the other places. >> are the egypt people better off or worse off because of the arab spring uprising? >> that's a very good question. and a very hard question to answer yes or no. i would say they're better off with an awful lot of blood, unfortunately, spilled to get there. maybe that wasn't necessary to have all that blood spilled. they went through the brotherhood phase, the generals are too oppressive but they're a lot better off with the generals than they were with the brotherhood. and i think ultimately they're going to move further toward democracy. i think it will eventually work out but it's been a very rocky period of time. >> let's turn to something i'd like to know, which is the jimmy fallon debut. you popped up. let's take a look. >> i lost a bet. what could i do? >> let's take a look. >> to my buddy who said that i'd
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never be the host of "the tonight show" you know who your. you owe me 100 bucks, buddy. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you for moving back to new york. >> it is a kind of iconic moment, isn't it? so few hosts of the show. >> for me a couple of things. first of all coming back to new york. when johnny carson left new york i was heart broken. anybody who left new york i was always opposed to. i loved going on the letterman show because he stuck with new york. it's fabulous he's brought it back to new york. this is the place we should have the shows. we have a lot more interesting people to interview than the west coast. >> what do you think of his style? >> jimmy? i know jimmy from being on "saturday night live" with him. i did a skit with him on "saturday night live" in the 1990s in which he played joe peschi and tracy morgan played mayor berry of washington and they tried to sell me drugs. then jimmy fallon beat mayor berry over the head with a baseball bat.
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then i sit with jimmy at yankee games. he's a rare talent. combination of great stand up comedian, dancer, singer, actor. i think he may actually be a little more of a kind of old-fashioned variety show rather than just monologue. i think there'll be the monologue but i think you'll see a lot of skits, a little bit more like -- not quite like the old sid ceasar show. he just died. which i grew up on. >> what was the atmosphere like backstage? >> there i was with joe namath and lady gaga who my daughter went to high school with. >> really? >> yes. she was a different lady gaga. >> wonderful bit of name dropping. >> a little bit different when she was at sacred heart academy. than the lady gaga i saw last night. i had to kind of go like that with my eyes. mariah carey. >> do you ever get offended by
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any of these late night guys? >> you mean when they attack me? >> yeah. >> no, gosh, i went on the letterman show 20 times. dave would attack me sometimes. i went on the leno show and leno would attack me. it's part of the humor. i always loved snl. they used to do a pretty good job on me. i even hosted it once. let's talk object ted nugent. he hit the campaign trail with greg abbott, normaler attorney general. he said this about president obama. >> i have obviously failed to galvanize and product if not shame enough americans to be ever vigilant not to let a chicago communist-raised, communist-educated, communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel like the akorn community organizer gangster barack hughes san obama to weasel his way into
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the top office of the united states of america. >> he said that in january. i can normally deal with ted nugent in a fairly comedic way. i've got to say that i thought was incredibly offensive. you don't talk about the president of the united states in that manner, a subhuman mongrel. >> of course you don't. republican, democrat, doesn't matter. the president of the united states is entitled to our respect. i disagree with many of barack obama's policies. don't think he's been a very good president. i think he's a fine man. i don't see anything about president obama, understand me, a very fine man, very fine family man. i believe he truly believes what he's trying to do. i truly believe he's wrong. >> but he's a man of principle. >> i have tremendous respect for the fact that he not only is the president. i have respect for the fact that he is trying to execute what he truly believes are the right things for the country, which i think is absolutely the wrong thing for the country. but to do those kinds of
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attacks -- >> should a gop party candidate, a long-standing party member like abbott, should he be having someone like ted nugent around him if he's going to be saying stuff like this? >> i suspect he won't be around for the next appearance. >> rudy, when we come back i want to talk to you about the michael dunn case, not dissimilar to the george zimmerman case and both their claims to be victims here, the real victims. an expert ford technician knows your car's health depends on a full, complete checkup. the works. because when it comes to feeling safe behind the wheel, going the distance and saving at the pump you want it all. get our multi-point inspection with a a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. get a complete vehicle checkup. only at your ford dealer. [ male announcer ] this man has an accomplished
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michael dunn and george zimmerman george zimmerman. two unarmed black teenagers shot dead. this is a clip here from michael dunn talking to his fiancee which came out today. >> i was thinking about that today. i was like i'm the [ mute ] victim here. i was the one who was victimized. i mean, i don't know how else to put it. like they attacked me. i'm the victim. >> right. >> i'm the victor, but i was the victim, too. >> i mean, there are many disturbing aspects of even that one exchange. >> right. >> the laughter, the slightly sneering tone. but the sense that he and george zimmerman both feel they're still the victims even though these two kids are dead, and that he goes further and says that he was the victor. what do we do, rudy? this is a wider question for you i think as somebody who's had to
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tackle gun violence new york. >> right. >> what do we do about the fact that the gun appears in these two gentlemen's hands to have emboldened them to become killers when in many countries around the world they wouldn't be that embold and because they wouldn't have a firearm in their hands. >> i don't agree with you, piers. i don't think it's the gun, it's two very strange individuals. zimmerman and dunn are different. i don't think the two cases are the same. zimmerman got acquitted. he got found not guilty. this guy got convicted of 25 years to life. so that jury did not accept his explanation. maybe they didn't find him guilty of first degree murder. but they found him guilty of attempted murder. and he's going to face a bare minimum of 25 years in jail to the rest of his life in jail. if he thinks he was the victor he's a real fool. >> right. i think there's no question of that. he's also from other transcript that is came out a racist clearly, too. but again i come back to this issue of the gun. there are not many countries of
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the 23 richest countries in the world where a dispute over noise or a kid looking suspicious walking along a street or as we saw somebody texting the baby care center when he's watching a movie with his girlfriend that would lead to somebody being shot dead. and yet all the time now in america we're hearing that this casual loss of life through guns. >> right. >> at what point does the gun itself not become a major issue? >> well, the gun is a major issue. it has to be handled in the right way, controlled in the right way. but the reality is that most of this comes about because we have these disturbed human beings who are carrying out these acts. we've had mass murders in countries in europe, and we have murder rates in some countries that are greater than murder rates in the united states. >> i'm not talk about the mass shootings. and i'm not even sure that these people that i'm talking about, whether it's zimmerman or dunn or the retired police captain in the movie theater, i don't think they would be categorized
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necessarily as mentally unstable. they would probably pass every background check. it's the ready willingness of people to walk around armed and getting into disputes and settling it with a gun how do you change that culture? >> you change the culture by changing the way people behave, not necessarily by the gun. the reality is that -- i remember a case in florida about seven or eight years ago, two people were on a line waiting to get into a movie theater. they got into a dispute and one man killed the other man with his fists. i remember another one where he killed someone with a knife. so i don't think we're you're going to stop that by just concentrating on the gun. i took more guns out of new york city than probably any mayor. >> right. you did take tough action. >> i took guns out of the hands of bad people. but the idea that decent people who have guns can't protect themselves with guns, that's a valid idea. it's in our constitution. not much we can do about it. you can make the argument that having a gun protects as much as
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it hurts. what we have to do is concentrate on keeping it out of the hands of bad people. we got to take all the illegal guns off the streets. we've got to penalize people who have guns and use them improperly. but you're fighting a losing battle if you think you're going to take guns out of america. just not going to happen. it's too much a part of our culture. beyond that it's in our constitution. >> be interesting to come back and have that conversation 100 years, rudy. >> 100 years from now we can do it. >> let's try to preserve your life and mine and come back in the next 100 years. >> in the next ten there have got to be other strategies we could use. they've tried this for 30 years. it doesn't work. you got to understand the culture of the united states and the constitution of the united states and then you have to work with it. i thought i did. i think that's how i reduced murder by 60%. >> you did a lot of good stuff on guns. britain used to be a massive gun culture country and we're not anymore. 29 murders last year. >> you're much more homogenous country and easier to do things like that.
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we're a much more diverse country. we have this whole history both cultural and constitutional with guns that's very, very difficult to override. so you have to kind of figure out how to work with it and then bring down the number of guns. >> rudy giuliani, making a lot of sense as always. good to see you. >> thank you, piers. a pleasure. the violence tonight in kiev a lot like what we saw three years ago in tahrir square. that's "the square" the oscar nominated documentary film. welcome to you. it's incredibly powerful, also incredibly good timing. because you're now seeing in
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kiev and venezuela other uprisings. none of them are exactly the same. the general i guess thread of them all is young people in particular saying we have had enough. when we look at egypt, this is what your film centers on, i asked rudy giuliani earlier, are the egyptian people better off or are they worse off because of the arab spring uprising. what do you think? >> well, just to talk about what you were saying earlier, it is incredible. it's incredible that there are squares that have been exploding around the world. and although the particulars of each situation are different, it is about young people that are claiming their rights. and people dish think what's important to remember is that those people in egypt are still fighting to claim their rights. we're talking about an ongoing struggle. and it's a dark time in egypt. there are people that are in jail. >> is there any real difference between the way egypt is being run now by the military to the way it was being run for the last 40 years, albeit with ma mubarek as a figure head? have things improved? have they moved on?
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>> if you see the film you see it focuses on three characters who are struggling for change in egypt. and what's happening right now in terms of the military taking control again, many people have said, okay, this is a really dark time. because we've gone back to square one. if you talk to our characters and people on the ground, though, they are deeply optimistic. because they know that struggle is going to happen over a very long time. change happens very slowly. and so the important thing is that there's a staying power to this movement. and if you look at the civil rights movement or any struggle, some of the biggest compliments we've gotten has been people who have fought during the civil rights movement. >> what you need it seems to me, in all these cases, civil rights, you had martin luther king. in south africa there was nelson mandela.
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you need great leaders to drive these kind of revolutions. is there a great leader in egypt right now that you could say in 20 years' time it was that person, man or woman, who led this for us? >> what ahmed says in the film, the main character of the film. he says first we need to develop a consciousness. and out of that will come a leader. and that's very important. because that's what young people are fighting for around the world. and we often hear from the people with the biggest megaphones, the people that have p.r. agents, the people like in our particular case the head of the muslim brotherhood and the head of the military. but what film can do and what our film has been able to do is remind us that there are human beings -- real human beings with families that are still struggling and we're still in the midst of that struggle. and what's been incredible about this film getting out there in the way that it has is that -- and the kind of support that we've gotten from the oscar nomination is that people on the ground now realize that there are people that are halfway
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across the world that believe in their struggle and that will continue to support them. and that's what the power of witness is. during the first 18 days before mubarek stepped down, the absolutely impossible happened, right? mubarek was able to step down when we never imagined that would be possible. that was because it wasn't just the protesters versus mubarek. it was the protesters plus the world attention plus journalists like you that were filming. and the world attention, paying attention to what was happening. and that's what's happening now again with kiev and with the release of our film is that people are saying we care. because the success of egypt and the success for the struggle of human rights and social freedoms and justice is important to the entire world because our lives are interconnected. and the success in one square determines the success in another square. >> a victory i guess at the oscars just gives you a huge global platform to share the message of the film, right? >> well, i think that's exactly right. i mean, the thing that is --
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we're so excited to just be nominated to begin with. but the fact is that what ahmed said when we told him we were nominated for the oscar and there's a potential win, he says what's exciting about that is that our story will never be able to be silenced. and that's what's so important about this nomination is the fuel that comes with it. because this is about the civil rights struggle and the struggle for human dignity of our time. so the international recognition of that is supporting that. >> best of luck, jahan. it's a very exciting time for you. terrific film, very powerful. urge people to go and see it. might win the oscar. >> thank you very much. nice to see you. " the square" is currently available on netflix and screenings nation-wide. coming up imagine your child being so severely tormented in school she wants to change her face. i'll talk to one teenage girl who did just that and the plastic surgeon who helped her. . did you run into traffic? no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner.
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>> well, because everyone always said that i looked bad. and i started to believe it. so i didn't like the way i looked. >> you were being bullied by other kids? >> yeah, at my school. >> what were they saying to you? how were they bullying you? >> they were just laughing behind my back at the time. they always said that's the girl with the big nose. they never called me by my name. >> how did that make you feel? >> i felt terrible about myself. i didn't want to leave the house anymore. >> it's every parent's nightmare of their child being bullied. there's a picture of renatta. i wouldn't say she was bad to look at before. but she was being bullied by other kids how did you feel? >> i tried to encourage her to feel better about her self and not pay attention to what the other kids were saying.
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there was so much negativity that was building on her confidence and self-esteem. >> doctor, it's a very difficult issue. want to read you what a psychologist said. she told nbc, are we saying the responsibility now falls on the kid who's bullied to alter themselves surgicallily? we have to address the idea there should be zero tolerance of bullying and encouraging acceptance of differences. notwithstanding what you do which is incredibly laudable in so many ways, do you understand that argument against it? >> of course. no one agrees that we should have bullying. but to think that we're going to stop bullying by attacking the bull bullies it may or may not occur. but to take children who have loss of self-esteem. renatta had not been to school for two years because of loss of self-esteem. she had seen a psychologist who recommended she get some kind of help to change the way she looked.
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the mission station of the foundation is to take children with birth defects and provide them surgery for low income families. that's how she got picked. bullying was what became recognized as we went through the process of evaluating her for a candidate of the little baby face foundation. >> right. you don't charge for this kind of surgery, right? >> no, everything, room and board, transportation to new york along with a parent, the foundation emphasizes children from the united states. unlike most of the foundations go to underdeveloped countries, we take care of kids from the states and all the fees are paid for including surgery and the hospitals allow to us do these surgeries. >> renatta, how did you feel after the surgery and everything had calmed down and you were back to normal but looking different and looked in the mir are. how did you feel? >> i felt pretty good about myself. i felt like i was a normal kid again and i could actually look at myself without wanting to
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cry. >> you also, you encouraged a slightly further step in having some chin surgery as well so that her face would look consistent? is that how you would describe it? >> yeah, piers. what happens is she had a diagnosis of what was called hemi facial microsomia. one side of her face was different sized than the other side. an asymmetry in size. her nose and septun and chin, implants were put into her face to balance her face. i think she's very happy now and we're very happy. this is all about the kids. >> is it any different to you, dr. roamer, to say somebody born with cleft lip and palate. i know a kid, have known him since he was two years old who had horrendous disfigurement from that kind of thing. he's had about 20 operations and now a very handsome 22-year-old
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boy. you'd never really know apart from a little scar here. i totally get how extensive surgery transformed his life for the better. is it the same argument with somebody like renatta? is it just a question of degree? >> it is a question of degree. because again, what we do as a foundation, as a surgical foundation, we take children with mild, moderate and severe birth defects. and they go through our system of being approved by a group of physicians. >> where do you draw the line? this is what fascinates me. where do you draw the line between what renatta went through, two years of hell unable to go to school, being deliberately bullied for the size of her nose. and you could identify a disfigurement that needed fixing and somebody of her age who comes to you wanting a slight nip and tuck. a pure cosmetic thing to look a little bit better? >> yeah. and performing cosmetic surgery in new york for the last 25 years, i see patients like that regularly. >> what is your view of this kind of age when they want that?
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>> well, they have to academically be of a certain age that is acceptable of any kind of surgery like this. so girls you're not going to start operating on them until they're 14, 15 years old, boys until they're 17, 18 years old in this kind of surgery. >> do you have any personal -- i know you're a great leader in this. do you have any personal ethical issue about people who just want a slight correction to look a ridicule bit prettier rather than a genuine problem like renatta had? >> well, ethical -- >> that's where i personally start to feel uncomfortable when it becomes just -- i've got a young daughter now. when she gets to 14 and says dad i want a nose job and she looks perfectly okay. >> but if your daughter tells you she's being bullied at school, you look at her and she actually has a nose that's overpowering her face and she has buck teeth, you're going to put braces on her and you probably will let her get her nose job done. and that will re-establish her self-esteem. but it's not done precariously.
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it's done with a diagnosis and with a treatment plan. >> renatta, what's your view of these bullies now, now that you so happy with the way you look, have confidence back? how do you feel about the people who bullied you? >> i feel like i win and not the bullies. they don't have an effect on me anymore. i have my confidence back. nothing they say could ever make me feel bad about myself. >> how do you feel towards dr. roamer? >> i feel the like he's a great doctor. and the foundation is amazing. i think without it i wouldn't be nearly as happy as i am now. and my life wouldn't be nearly as good as it is now. >> michelle, final word to you. what do you feel about all this? >> i'm very thankful that this foundation is able to help children like renatta and other kids. without their help renatta never would have received the help that she has received. >> i'll be honest with you. when i first heard about this i think my reaction was i would be
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against it instinctively. not really into the whole concept of plastic surgery. having met you and heard the story, i think it's very powerful. i understand why you did this. and you look beautiful. >> thank you. >> so you should get out there, go see these bullies and steal all their boyfriends would be my advice for you. thank you all very much for joining me. more about baby face foundation log onto littlebabyface.org. coming up from beauty to bubba. i'll talk to the supermodel of the two-time "sports illustrated" cover girl, paulina porizkova. and bubba watson who just won his first tournament in over two years after appearing on this show last week. clearly he will be wanting to thank me, won't you, bubba? what you wear to bed is your business.
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the 2014 swimsuit issue of "sports illustrated" features three models. but my next guest managed to hold down the fort all by herself not just once but twice. paulina porizkova is an actress and author. i've spent most of my youth thinking about you. >> you should have let me know. i would really liked to have heard it. today is fine too. >> it's never too late. i might be a creepy old man now but it's never too late. is it? to get more of why you're here
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what did you think of that last segment? it's a very contentious issue, plastic surgery. >> it is. i have some problems because we're starting to celebrate such a small amount of beauty. it's like the fabulous big noses of the past. like if you think of madam x. the painting with this gorgeous profile. like that wouldn't be gorgeous anymore. like our sense of what's beautiful has narrowed so much. and i guess i'm partly responsible since 20 years ago you were supposed to look like this. >> right. do you feel that responsibility in do you think the pressure on young women today has been driven by that whole supermodel era and the fact that most models these days are pretty skinny and look a certain way? >> yes and no. because i don't think it's so much supermodel-driven, because there's not even really supermodels around anymore. everything is taken over by actresses. what has been taken over is photoshop. everybody can look good. my grandmother could be a supermodel now even though she's
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dead [ laughter ] >> let me ask you about beauty. who to you is real beauty? if i were to say to you name the most beautiful woman you have ever personally seen. >> i am very fond of tilda swenson, who i think has a very unusual -- >> not a classic beauty at all, right? >> no. but she's so interesting. and there's so much life and talent behind that mathematics of her face. and yes, i will say audrey hepburn. i'm a big audrey hepburn fan. and isabella rossellini. >> who was your biggest rival? you were one of the very few people to be on "sports illustrated" twice. who was the one you woke up in the morning and thought look at her. she looks great. >> there was only me. [ laughter ] >> i love that. i always thought you supermodels were like that. >> totally entirely.
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>> the rest of you suck, right? >> actually it wasn't anything like that. i wish. this is like me remembering the way i'd like to remember it. when i came on the scene, carol ault, kelly,mberg, on on mademoiselle and vogue. >> i saw christie brinkley. she looks sensational. 60 now. cindy crawford looks amazing. sharon stone tonight is on "shape" magazine looking about 20. >> i know. i'm starting to look like their mother. oh, well. >> well, you don't. trust me. you've been married to your husband, the lead singer, founding member of the cars, for 25 years. >> actually we're going to be celebrating 30. >> 30? >> yeah. not marriage but 30 since we
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met. >> so 30 years, married for 25. that's pretty extraordinary. if i could have said 25 years ago or 30 years ago, supermodel meets rock star you'd give it about three weeks. >> mm-hmm. >> what has been the secret? >> i do get that question a lot. and i think it's unfortunate that it's really just a question of luck finding the right person at the right time. i just got lucky. it was this dumb blind luck. i found the person i needed at the right time. i knew it. >> you met on a video of the famous song "drive" which was later taken and used for the whole live aid thing. >> being english you remember it from live aid. >> because they put the music to that harrowing footage from africa. it made a huge difference to the fundraiser. quite an iconic thing to be associated with. what's life like for you now? >> what's life like for me? >> what are you most passionate about these days? >> i am passionate about writing.
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that's what i do now. that's pretty much all i can do since i never really went to school or learned to do anything but look good. and now i'm learning how to look good. because one ages and things don't stay where they used to be. >> you're looking how to look good? do you understand how ludicrous that sounds? people like me have to learn how to look good. >> no. you have something to say. i have to come look like this so people williston me. >> this is your serious look, is it? >> yeah. this is in case i don't say anything witty at least you get boob [ laughter ] >> this has been fun. you've got to come back. >> sure. i told you you could have had me a long time ago. all you needed to do was ask. >> i'm not sure rick would be too happy to hear you say that. >> that's true. >> i can sing if it's any consolation. >> you can sing? >> i am prepared to make an effort for you. >> i kind of fancy men with british accents just generally. >> really? >> yes, i do. i think it's monty python left over.
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john cleese was one of the first guys i had a crush on. >> john cleese. it's been a pleasure. come back and see me. >> i can't believe i'm ditching paulina porizkova for bubba watson but i am. unbelievable. can't believe i'm doing this. anyway, bubba watson is next. there he is. he can't believe it, either. what's in your ear? oooo! a quarter!
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there you go! >> bubba watson's winning putt sunday at the northern trust open. bubba was here, and i had some friendly ribbing about his failure to win. now he's back with me, bubba watson, winner proud to say of the 2014 northern trust open. bubba, congratulations. >> thank you so much. ann coulter obviously gave me a lot of tips when i was there on the show. obviously it was her not you. >> i want to play a clip from our exchange last week to show our viewers. no wins since the masters since 2012. >> thank you for that. i wanted other people to see what it feels like. >> you got quite angry in that moment. you didn't like me reminding everyone it had been two years
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sense you had last won at the masters. >> you know what? sometimes i make fun of you and call you names and i want to apologize on the tv here. i want to say i'm sorry for making fun of you, you're an inspiration to millions of people. now they know what not to do in life. so you inspire people to be better than you. >> one of your more tender tributes to me when you hijacked my office. what is nice about you is your son who has all the charm and manners his father lacks. let's watch this lovely clip of caleb urging you on sunday. >> yeah, daddy. >> there he goes! >> we should agree that caleb won it. such a moving moment. how did you feel when you hugged him after winning? >> you know, i cried. that was the moment i cried when i was holding him.
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being able to see footage later in life, when he gets older, he'll be able to see his dad winning a golf tournament and know what it is and just holding him. it's just an inspiration. adopting him, me and my wife adopted him. just these -- he's a gift from god for us. so it's a pleasure to hold him and be there with me when i won. >> in all seriousness, bubba, we've spoken a lot over the last few years. when you win a tournament on the masters, your life changes forever and your life has changed in so many ways. to win again, though, it must be a big moment for you, because it shows despite all the great stuff you've enjoyed, you've still got the capacity to win a big tournament. does that going forward now really embolden you to win the masters again? >> for sure. when i was looking at it on the last year or so, it's how to improve and become a better father, a better husband.
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and then at the same time golf, a better golfer. you have to find balance. over the last two years, i found some balance. my golf game is getting better, back to where it should be. i finished second, now a first. hopefully my career keeps going up from here. who knows what it will be? >> bubba, it was brilliant to see you win. i was tweeting about it on sunday. couldn't happen to a nicer guy. please come back soon. send caleb my very best. he won everyone's hearts on sunday and best of luck all summer. we will all be watching. >> thanks for having me. >> lovely guy. we'll be right back. with this annoying runny nose. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat all that. it doesn't? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh, what a relief it is! plus has a fast-acting antihistamine.
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boy, you're good. you are good. >> thank you. >> and i'm not just trying to flatter you. that's good. >> when i started this show three years ago, my very first guest was the queen all of media, oprah winfrey. now she's back and she's joined by best friend gayle king and sanjay gupta. they're teaming up to battle an epidemic that's hit 60 million americans. it's loneliness and it could be affecting your health. that's tomorrow. that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts right now.
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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening, everyone. tonight, a city the size of chicago is in flames. it's been all night, and the political inferno is spreading. take a look at kiev, capital of you train, a country that was once part of the old soviet union, and is erupting with the government's decision to align itself more closely with vladamir putin. tonight, government forces moved in and inflicting heavy casualties. the best we can determine right now, 11 protesters, 9 police officers and 1 other person have been killed but expect those numbers to change. they've been rising all night. phil black is in kiev right now and joins us by phone. >> reporter: anderson, there is still a huge crowd here in i would -- in independent square, all of them woin

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