davis speak out live. your "new day" starts right now. good morning. welcome to "new day." it's thursday, february 20th, 6:00 in the east. we do begin with breaking news from the ukraine. you're looking at it. deadly street fighting over night. just hours after truce was supposed to go in effect. this is a live look at kiev's independent square. they're clashing again in the square where demonstrators have set up camp digging in for the long stay. >> it's a scene reminisce san antonio of earlier this week where 28 people were killed. ukraine's president speaking out this morning saying the protestors were the ones who broke the truce. we're going to get to kiev in

just a moment. but first, let's get straight over to the white house where athena jones is. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, kate. well the administration is watching these developments very, very closely. president obama warned the president of the ukraine yesterday not to se sort -- resort to violence and he also called on the protestors to remain peaceful. before the president left mexico last night, he talked about what he wants for the people of ukraine. >> our approach as the united states is not to see these as some cold war chest board in -- chess board in which we're in competition with russia. our goal is to make sure the people of ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future. that the people of syria. >> reporter: now the goal here is to stop the violence between

the government and the opposition. now, as for sanctions, the u.s. is banning visas for 20 ukrainian government officials they believe are responsible for this crackdown on protestors that we've seen. more sanctions could follow. but the big question here is one of leverage. even if the u.s. levies new sanctions, for instance economic sanctions, you have russia standing by ready to offer economic relief. in fact, they already have offered billions in loans. >> they have also given gas to the ukraine. no question there's motivated interest on their part. you hear what the president is saying. but of course the politics are defying what's actually happening on the ground. you can see the situation. senior international correspondent nick payton walsh is there in kiev and he's been watching the protests as they become worse.

nick? >> reporter: here where i'm standing we've seen remarkable scenes for the last few hours. quite shocking. woken this morning by gunfire over here on the road down the side of me. bodies being dragged by their feet by what seems to be a new police front line. we've seen the shell casings. let me wiebd you back as to -- wind you back as to how we think we got to here. others suggest there may have been sniper fire at protestors that protestors responded to by shooting at police. what followed, clear, though. live fire against protestors. we haven't seen who actually fired those shots, but it's pretty clear coming from those opposing them, which are the police here. in the lobby of this hotel, they

have counted at least 11 dead bodies. we're told there could be at least 20 perhaps killed. i've seen dead carried away. at least a dozen people. what we've seen is the police pullback and the protestors rush forward to take back the old positions they had about 48 hours ago before police moved in. nine hours ago i was standing here talking about a truce. things have changed to dramatically here. we're now seeing live gunfire in what is the time square of the ukraine behind me. >> clearly another day of it changing moment by moment. thank you, very, very much for the update. >> also a new warning this morning from homeland security to every u.s. airline. be on the lookout for shoe bombs. this comes just after the

warning about toothpaste on flights. barbara star is joining us. what kind of warning are we looking at now? >> well, if you are flying this morning, you may notice more screening from airport personnel in the wake of this new terrorist threat. new concern terrorists may target direct flights from overseas heading to the u.s. the department of homeland security is warning airlines that terrorists may attempt to hide explosives in shoes, cosmetics and liquids. the advisory mentions more than two dozen cities overseas including paris, london, cairo and some additional cities in the middle east. >> the warning is nonspecific, but the desire and capability is not large. it's al qaeda and the arabian peninsula.

>> this shows the potential devastation a shoe bomb could cause. sources say, it indicates terror groups have been working on a new shoe bomb design. it's not the first time they've tried to blow up a plane that way. they that watered an attempt to detonate explosives hidden in this man's sneaker. after that, they started asking everyone in the u.s. to take their shoes off while going through security. this comes just two weeks after u.s. officials warned airlines terrorists could hide explosives on toothpaste tubes on flights heading to russia ahead of the sochi olympics. they say this new threat is unrelated. al qaeda have never given up on their desire to attack the united states. experts will tell you and that is the big concern. >> barbara, appreciate the

reporting. let's get more on the new warnings with charlie payne. the perfect man for the job this morning. thank you for joining us. barbara star just told us that they don't believe this is related to the tube warnings for flights going to sochi. is that the same information that you have? if so, what is making this such and your gent -- urgent matter. >> >> i would have have go ahead and support the theory that the two aren't connected. there would be no reason to have them connected and not mention it. this is a ubiquitous threat. we faced it for a long time, and this is awakeup call and provides explosives devices on airliners as part of cosmetics or some of the other carry-on things is something we need to be concerned about. you're going to see increased

security probably for the near term at least. >> now, we know that we have been successful in the past at least twice in thwarting these types of efforts. are we seeing more sophisticated types of these explosives now that warrant the new warning? >> the threat's always evolving. it's up to the imagination of the bomber and the network of those folks who help the bomber. it's a constantly evolving threat and we have a good machine to keep up with it, but it's always measure unt kournt measure. >> what do you want to let people know? how real is this? what's the level of urgency? >> understand. i feel like, you know, this is something that is a primary threat. it's the terrorist weapon of choice and provides explosive devices. vigilance, common sense security and patience with those charged

with protecting millions of passengers a day is really kind of what's called for here. for those who are countering the threat, they're looking for a pretty good network of folks and they're work hard and they're going a good job. >> so this is about just letting everybody know what the tactics are so we can be aware as opposed to we've heard they're trying to hit this city at this time? >> that's right. they're not going to fax their intentions to us. >> appreciate the perspective. thank you for that this morning. >> all right. thanks rngts this morning an eye popping business deal has the tech world buzzing. facebook has just announces it's buying whatsapp for a whooping $19 billion. what exactly is this? we're in san francisco with more details on this. christine, please tell me why

this app is worth a cool $19 billion. >> reporter: i'm in san francisco where you can smell the monday. it's this -- a free mobile messaging service. it's sort of like social media and text messaging all wrapped up into one. it is so popular. 450 million users. it's adding a million users every single day. no company in the history of the world has done something like that. going from nonexist tent to 450 million subscribers today and it's moving very, very quickly. $19 billion, is it worth that much money? that's the big question in silicon valley today. a lot of people are saying, yes it is. facebook needs young users, it needs fast growth, it needs to slid fie it's position. when you look backward, remember

everyone was talking about snap chat and the rumors that maybe facebook was going to buy snap chat and snap chat turned it down? they're looking real smart right now. you can see there's huge value in some of these fast-growing focusing on younger users technology. >> facebook is getting good at gobbling up and buying up things before they become competition for the company. great to see you. much more on why christine is out in san francisco a little later. also talking more about whatsapp ahead including the story behind the co-founder of this app. >> what's up with whatsapp. here's something we all need to pay attention to. more possible severe storms moving over the mid-atlantic

today. tornado threat from the midwest. blizzard conditions in the upper midwest. even areas seeing the warmup right now, melting snow could cause major flooding. so there's a lot to watch out here. we have indra petersons ahead of it all. >> today's one of those days we all need to be aware. a lot of you for different reasons. i mean, notice the arrow head around minnesota could see over a foot of snow today, even northern portions of wisconsin. so snow is still out there, eep though temperatures are warmer to the south. look, right around chicago, tough day for you. look at all the activity, even the lightning already firing up right now. this is all a sign of what is to come. winds alone could be ramping up to 50 miles per hour. it's all about this temperature contrast. look at these warmer temperatures into the southeast, then the blizzard companies into the north. what does that bring you? that brings you the threat for

severe weather. we're talking about 38 million of you today. looking for the threat for straight-line winds, severe thunderstorms, and even tornados. deathly be aware today. that will be the story. once again that threat goes to about 28 million of you tomorrow stretching from d.c. all the way down through jacksonville, florida. a lot to be concerned with today. >> i feel like chicago and the great lakes have had enough of it this winter. >> chicago is not going to be pretty today. >> what about us? my goodness. >> sorry. >> i feel bad for them, but -- >> nobody is safe and that's why we have to keep watching. by the way, great to have you here. don lemon everybody. it's what up with whatsapp. >> is it? >> it's a very busy news day. >> calls for an investigation

into a u.s. drone strike in yemen. human rights watches reporting a december strike may have killed up to a dozen people on their way to a wedding in yemen, among them, the bride. that's based on interviews with witnesses, officials and relatives of the dead. u.s. officials say only members of al qaeda were killed in the december strike and are refusing to make the results of two investigations public. and venezuelan president vowing to go forward with the prosecution of the leading opposition figure. lopez faces charges of murder and terrorism. the government blames him for inciting violence that has led to at least five deaths. he accused the opposition of trying to overthrow his goth. in mississippi, 11 teenagers taken to the hospital and another 14 people hurt after a church floor collapsed on

wednesday night. it happened in a second-floor activity center at the freedom baptist church. kids in grades 7 through 12 inside when the floor suddenly gave way. thankfully all the injuries are described as minor. >> and vice president joe biden acknowledging obamacare enrollment numbers may not hit their target. biden said hitting 7 million may not happen, but 5 or 6 million would be quote, a hell of a start. the administration says about 3.3 million people have signed up. open enrollment ends on march 31st. a major upset on the hardwood. the syracuse men's basketball team suffered its first loss of the season to unranked boston college last night. i see chris shaking his head right next to me. they tied the game in the final seconds of regulation and got

the ball rolling with a three-pointer in overtime. they hit free throws down the stretch to nail the win 612-59. >> it was huge because syracuse is number one team. they were seen as dominant. often the most important game is the one they lose. back down to reality. >> still in a good part of the season for them to lose. we're beginning to start talking about march mad bs. >> do you do spoiler alerts on the show? >> we often suggest it's a good time to get coffee, put your pants on -- >> i don't always choose the put your pants on. a lot of people watching the show with no pants. >> awkward. moving on, eight more medals being handed out in sochi. among them, the gold in u.s. hockey. team usa takes on canada. a little later, the women's figure skating finals. three americans are in the top

seven entering the free skate. team usa proudly atop the overall leader board. with russia and the netherlands close behind. chris gets the pants award. >> i have pants on, as you can see through the table. >> thank goodness. >> at this time in the morning, many people with de-panted. >> you take that and think about it a little bit. we're going to take a break. coming up next on "new day," two big exclusives to bring to you. one on one with jack lew. we're going to ask him how he plans to get the u.s. economy back on track. what the government can do about that. does he think it's already back on track, though? you'll find out. >> and ted cruise, creating chaos in the capitol, frustrating even the leaders of his loan party and doing it all by design. we asked him what's it like to be the most hated in congress. exclusives coming up. ♪

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welcome back. treasury secretary jack lew is preparing for meetings this week. his job also puts him at the forefront of our country's economic policy, of course. it also means he's the one warning of doom when congress continues threatening not to pay its bills. we were able to sit down for the exclusive interview with the secretary to talk about the economy and much more. there couldn't be a more important conversation to be had right now. what did the secretary say? >> good morning, kate. he sees positive signs on both the economy and the rate which the economy is growing and all

so on that thaw in washington that's allowing them to get more done. he says there's still a lot of work still to be done. case in point, on the minimum wage. >> i don't believe that it's right for people to work for 40 hours and take home pay that's below the poverty line. president made it very clear that as a country we have to make sure that if you work full time, you're at least at the poverty line. >> do you think you can get that done this year? >> he's done the executive order. we're going to keep pushing at it. it's obviously not in our power to force congress to act, but we can make the case for it. and we can have the american people make the case for it and we're going to continue pressing because it's the right thing to do. >> the cbo report today really gave the people against it their ammuniti ammunition. >> i think if you look at that cbo report, it also showed that it would take almost a million

people out of poverty. there are a lot of different views on the economics of the minimum wage. i know that the studies done by a number of people show that it has the opposite effect. i tend to think that they're right. >> someone who has had your job, larry summers, he has been writing that he is becoming a down ton an by economy. >> i don't think we have to be. i think it's more of a prediction than it is an assessment. if you do the right things, we can create opportunity. one thing about american people generally is if they're doing well, they don't begrudge other people doing well. we can -- we can solve that problem. >> just as you head to the g 20, you're more confident than i've heard you in a year on this job about the atmosphere in washington for getting stuff done. >> the last four months have been very different from the prior two years.

i don't want to overstate the situation. you know, it's going to be challenging to do hard things. we'll see when everyone gets back after this break and we do some more. obviously it's an election year, so it's not going to be as possible in the fall and summer as it would be -- >> would immigration reform -- >> i think immigration reform is something were there is a bipartisan majority that wants to take action. i think it is something where the direction of policy, you know, there's clearly an interest. i know there are a lot of statements coming out of washington that there are disputes. >> from republicans. >> within the republican party. >> right. >> i think it has certain attributes that make me feel there's going to be action in the near distant future. >> really interesting conversation. and another big thing that congress may or may not have a hand in, and it's something that you talk about a lot, is kind of the concept of the underemployed

and where are the jobs. what did lew have to say about that very important question about creating jobs and honestly, what role the government has in that? >> he goes back to retraining. he goes back to making sure that from -- from prek all the way through community colleges and our university system that we're teaching the right skills, science, technology, engineering, math, so people have technical skills. so it goes back to the sort of bigger picture idea that we're not going to fix what's been going on for the past 30 years. income inequality is sort of the stagnation of the past. we're not going to fix it in a year, but we need to be making the investments right now. that's what's going to keep america on top. >> that needs to be the long-term focus of our folks in washington. >> right. >> if you watch the back and forth political battles, it's

not what we see. >> i know. i know. it's really frustrating too because there's fighting on every kind of move on how to create jobs. i will say he's going to the g20 meeting without having to you know explain to our friends and neighbors why we're fighting over paying our bills. that's the first time in about three years. >> true. >> that's the up beat part of this. we're starting to get back to business again in washington. if it lasts is the big question. >> kudos to you, romans. i hope you saw what she was doing. she was pushing lew to give answers to questions that just don't fit into the party message. we're going to take a break here on "new day" and we're going to attack this battle again. there is a battle afoot, my friend. like many like you are deciding what matters most. we're going to go one on one

with this man who's fighting everyone in d.c. texas senator ted cruz. champion of the people or face of the problem? you decide. and also this is ahead. someone is waking up $425 million richer this morning. we're going to tell you where the single winning powerball ticket was sold. [ as schwarzenegger ] show me the movies with the arnold schwarzenegger

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we were just joking about not enunciating our words during the break. >> my third grade teacher, enunciate, don. fresh street battles breaking out overnight in kiev's independent square. that has been ground zero for anti-government demonstrations. the chaos happening dispiet an announced truce last night. 28 people were killed in the clashes on tuesday. they want victorian co-vich to step down. all u.s. airlines are to be on the lookout for shoe bombs. they're calling the threat nonspecific, but intelligence officials say terrorists are working on new more sophisticated designs. this morning, families in the korea separated for more than half a century are being

reunited in a five-day event negotiated by north and south korea. family members have gone decades without phone calls, letters or e-mails, unable to know whether their loved ones are alive or dead. very emotional there. major document dump could dampen the presidential hopes of scott walker. documents shedding new light on a criminal investigation when he was running for governor and still milwaukee's county executive. at least two of the aides were found guilty of performing political business on county time while walker was founding his came pain for governor. and a summons from atlantic city police says that ray rice

from the baltimore ravens knocked his wife unconscious. he was charged with simple assault and domestic violence. video shows rice lifting polymer out of the elevator by her arms and layering her on the ground. rice is due in court on tuesday. certainly disturbing. a lot of people are paying close attention to this story. >> bad situation. all right. we have exclusives today. we're going to have one right now. this one, one on one with senator ted cruz. very important individual in the senate and now slamming his own party this morning. angering fellow republicans by blocking a vote to raise the debt ceiling last week. and possibly put themselves in jeopardy this fall. cnn's dana bash is in houston. she's the one that went toe to toe with the senator. he's the one that says he has no

regrets. >> reporter: it's absolutely true, he has no regrets. the republican leadership plan last week was to allow the debt ceiling to be increased without any republican votes. ted cruz put a stop to that because he said it is trickery and he's still says that today. i did not think it was possible to hear your colleagues, your republican colleagues anklier as you than they were after the government shutdown, but i actually think you have topped it. they are really, really upset with you that you tried to stop the debt ceiling with a filibuster and forced your colleagues to take really, really tough votes that you knew would be tough for them. >> well, you know, it's interesting. i think last week actually is a perfect illustration of everything that's wrong with washington. republican leadership said, we want this to pass.

but if every senator affirmatively consents to doing it on 51 votes, then we can all cast a vote no and go home to the constituents and say we opposed it. listen, that sort of show vote, that sort of trickery to the constituents is why congress has a 13% approval rating. >> now you're talking about republican leadership. one of the people you're talking about is your senior senator in your own party, who happens to be the number two in the senate, john core anyone. is he trying to fool texas voters? >> listen, i like john. he's a friend of mine. he and i have agreed on the vast majority of issues. i disagree with him on this. >> part of the eyebrow raising criticism of this particular filibuster is that it wasn't the kind of one you did over the shutdown. you were not there for 21 hours

reciting green eggs and ham. so it wasn't even sort of a real filibuster. if you wanted to really block it, why didn't you talk about it? >> what i said at the outset is i am not going to give hairy reed the authority to do this. it is irresponsible. it is selling our nation's future down the road. i won't identify anything, but i'll tell you several people raise add question just like you did there. why are you trying to throw five republicans under the bus and make them vote for raising the debt ceiling. and i'll tell you my response. my response is, i don't want to throw any republicans under the bus. i would like to see all 45 republicans stand together and actually do what we tell our con tissue wents. >> the wall street journal called you the minority maker. the idea there -- this is really what it's all about, is that you

forced republicans to take votes that could hurt them in their races and could put the republican party in a minority again. what's more important to you being in the majority or party purity? >> i want to win and turn this country around and the way we lose is not standing for anything. >> i know you're in washington fighting for the grass roots, but you are a human being and you are sitting with people around you who -- i would think that you have some respect for, fellow senators in your own party. for them to be so mad at you, what's that like? >> oh, listen, what i try to keep an eye on is that i don't work for the party bosses in washington. >> as a human being. you are a human being, does it sting? >> as a human being, i can't control what they say, how they behave. i can control what i do. every reaction that i have with every senator is consistently

civil, courteous, respectful, treating them with the dignity they deserve. >> da na, that's a great interview. i was waiting for you to tag it. let me ask you a question, though. does the senator acknowledge the contempt that he tells people about for the entire process of washington? does he acknowledge that his strategy to date has been to obstruct? does he own that? >> reporter: oh, absolutely. he doesn't use the word obstruct. he uses terms like standing up for the people here in texas, of course. but that is what he's doing, whatever term you want to use. as you just heard, he doubles down on it even more than that. it's really fascinating. i've been covering congress frr a while and i see the place and how it works as a club. to watch somebody who has only been in the senate for a little more than a year to push back against that club-like mentality

in such a vigorous way, which is why i asked that human level question, he is sitting with these colleagues all day long. this is the third time i've been here in texas to interview him. i see here on the ground why he is able to be like that. he is applauded everywhere he goes for doing what he is doing by the conservative gross roots and the people who elected him. let's be honest about what he's doing with regard to his long term game. he doesn't deny that he wants to be president. doesn't deny that he probably will make that run. he is banking on the fact that there is a constituent out there that are so mad at washington that they are going to continue to applaud him for standing up against washington and being the only one to do that at times like this. >> great interview. very insightful because ted

cruz, he is the face of half of the problem. love that because you're ex-posing the game, the club as you call it. but then there's the other half. what are you going to do to make it better? higher ambitions won't happen until that piece has been filled as well. >> and she makes an important point. it matters because with her expertise, you don't often see someone who so quickly comes in and makes waves in this institution and has so much support who also isn't committing political suicide. not that's just because he says wild things, it's because he's making waves. >> he's harnessing the outrage of the people. the task as a leader is now how do you take that and create progress. >> that's the second part of it that we haven't seen yet. >> coming up next on "new day," huge deal in the tech world. why facebook believes an app called whatsapp is worth $19

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concern was flooding. still today, a lot of flooding concerns with warm temperatures and rain. we're actually going to be adding blizzards into the mix as well, especially in the upper midwest where we cowl see over a foot of snow. even that not the biggest story of the day. these thunderstorms already firing up. this will be the big story today, the threat for severe weather. why? take a look. look at these temperatures down south, well above normal and then we have the blizzards up in the upper midwest. what do you have? you have that severe weather threat for 38 million of you today. what are you watching out for? thunderstorms that could turn severe. even a few isolated tornados could not be ruled out. it is not over with tonight. we're looking at it to even spread through tomorrow straight down through jacksonville.

>> we'll be watching very, very closely. thanks so much. we got to be careful and keep on that. we also have a big business story to tell you about. two new billionaires in silicon valley this morningment they sold their messaging app called whatsapp. so of course, i wonder is it worth it? let's bring in brett larson, cnn analyst. >> for them, it is. >> i really -- first of all, maybe i am living under a rock. i did not know of what's app and then i found out how many people use it. >> yeah, billions of people use it every day. >> what is it? >> it's a messaging app. >> is it popular here in the u.s. or just around the country were there are -- >> i had it on a blackberry and got rid of it. >> what is it and why is it worth 19 billion? >> it's a messaging app that

works internationally, but it works over data and not text messaging. >> so it's a cheaper, more cost effective way to text. >> and also you can use it with people all over the world. it's almost like skype but for text messaging. >> now that's a good analogy. now i know what it is. >> is it worth it? >> you're paying for the users? >> they're definitely buying up the users and they're getting millions of new subscribers every day. the reality for facebook is they're not keeping or getting really that younger audience, that under 17 that they need to get into the fold of facebook. that's not what people do with media anymore. >> all right. but still, facebook's got a lot of cash. >> right. right. >> but 19 billion, they obviously did their own quantitative analysis. what companies does this now

make this what the app worth now more than in terms of a big company we all know? >> it's probably one of the smaller electronic companies. >> like le jit companies. i know it's bigger than matel, the toy company. >> it's bigger than exxon -- no. definitely not bigger than exxon. >> the last time we were talking about facebook trying to buy another company, snap chat turned them down. that was $3 billion. now we're talking about $20 billion. >> right. which is a significantly larger -- it's ten-fold amounts of more. >> doctor pepper and 10 billion. news corp., 10.27 billion. >> it's been around for five years?

>> they haven't been around for very long. it's three, four years. the real buy that facebook is getting here is that user base. and also whatsapp is signing up millions of people every day. it will start making money. in a year's time they'll start charging you maybe. maybe. >> we're talking about serious users. this says there are 450 million monthly active users. 320 million daily active million. >> think about if facebook decided to say, okay, for every other message you send we're going to put in a text ad, that's millions of ads every day that they get. also another thing, facebook isn't an innovator. they need to buy up things kind of like what microsoft did in the '90s. >> thank you for explaining it.

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good morning. welcome back to "new day." it's thursday, february 20th, 7:00 in the east. we're going to start with our news blast. that's the most news you can get anywhere. are you ready? >> terrorists may attempt to hide explosives in shoes,

cosmetics and liquids. >> we're talking about something that can get past sensors in an airport. >> eight, nine hours i understood here talking about the possibility of peace talks. that's clearly out of the window. >> there will be consequences if people step over the line. >> we have to be sure if you work full time you're at least at the poverty line. >> you'll never work out of prison again. all that is coming up. we begin with breaking news out of the crukraine. dozens killed overnight in new street battles in kiev's independent square. that's what you're looking at. this new vie lebs breaks out just hours after a truce had been called to show the instability there. we're going to go live in just moments. and serious questions about a u.s. drone attack in yemen. human rights watch calling for an investigation saying the december strike may have viol e violated president obama's

targeted killing policy. they say people were killed on the way to a wedding, including the bride. the u.s. says only al qaeda members were killed. investigators are scrambling to figure out why two american security officers turned up dead on board the maersk alabama. the ship was profiled in the film, "captain phillips." they were discovered in their ship cabin by crew members. autopsies are expected this week. new this morning, vice president joe biden ak knowledged the rollout to obamacare was rocky. he also said enrollment may not reach the enrollment the administration hoped for. take a listen. >> i think that although, you know, initially we talked about by the end of this period having 7 million people lined up, we

may not get to 7, but we're going to get to five or six. and that's a hell of a start. >> the obama administration says about 3.3 million have signed up through the end of january. major setback for supporters of the keystone xl oil pipeline. a judge in nebraska over turning a local law that would allow the pipeline to run through the corn husker state. they are appealing the ruling now. it would carry over 800,000 barrels of oil from canada to texas every day. a major breach of privacy at the university of maryland. digital records of more than 300,000 faculty, staff, students and personnel were hacked. they say financial data wasn't compromised, but they are offering one year of free credit monitoring to anyone affected. in a what related story, the department of homeland security

reversing and dropping plans for nationwide license plate data base. this would have allowed a private company to collect data that could track cars from coast to coast. they have order add review of the contract. >> and in mississippi, 11 teenagers taken to the hospital and another 14 hurt after a church floor collapsed wednesday night. it happened at the freedom baptist church. people including children were attending a service when the floor just sdeply gave way. all of the injuries, though, are described at minor. new this morning, a shoe bomb terror alert for the u.s., specifically the airlines. homeland security officials say terrorists may be working on sophisticated new shoe bomb designs. w while there is no specific threat, the u.s. could be

targeted. >> there may be no specific threat, but let's be clear. al qaeda and affiliates, especially in yemen, have never given up on their desire to attack the united states. the department of homeland security warning that terrorists may be working on that new shoe bomb design. they may be focusing on overseas flights heading into the united states. a number of cities mentioned on where the flights could originate. this is 13 years, of course, after the failed shoe bomb attempt on a flight from paris to miami. richard reed tried to ignite his shoes with explosives. that has led us all to the reality of taking our shoes off at the airport. officials are not saying exactly what they will do, but they certainly are on the watch for this new threat. >> on old threat that is new

once again. more severe weather could make it a miserable day. there are toshd threats from the -- tornado threats from the midwest to indiana. and then there is of course, the melting snow problem which could cause major flooding in areas. let's get back over to indra petersons for a look at all of this mess that's going on. >> that's exactly it. with have so many concerns. in the ohio valley, we have warm temperatures and a lot of rainmaking its way through the region today. so be on the lookout. then there's the blizzard conditions, looks like up state portions of wisconsin and really the midwest. we could see winds as strong as 50 miles per hour. any all the way south around the gulf, talking about the threat for severe thunderstorms. that means straight-line winds and even the threat for toshds

will be -- tornados will be out there. looking for it to spread farther east tomorrow. we're going to get news in now. more than two weeks of unrest coming to a head in venezuela where tensions are rising and casualties mounting after the arrest of a key opposition leader. leopoldo lopez facing arraignment as they release a prerecorded video of lopez urging protestors to fight on. they are blaming them for really forming the chaos there. at least five have now been killed in those clashes. and a possible standoff brewing over aid to syria. western and u.s. countries demanding immediate access throughout syria are calling for a vote tomorrow. they want to force them to let humanitarian aid in. russia and china have vetoed

three previous resolutions back by western countries. this conflict between russia and the u.s. now echoed by the stop story of the morning. new clashes over night in kiev's independent square. the results, deadly. take a live look at the crowd still gathered there. this violence comes just hours after the president and p opposition group agreed to a truce and the start of peace talks. nick paton walsh is in the thick of it. >> reporter: the worst violence we've seen so far in ukraine. live gunfire used against protestors here in central kiev. something happened this morning that caused police to rapidly pull back. not quite sure what it was. at that point, we understand live gunfire was then used there. we've seen bodies dragged away.

11 bodies counted by colleagues. 20 dead according to medical personnel. the concern here is the police have moved away from central square. the worry is what's the response going to be from security forces. that's why protestors behind me are for fieing barricades. >> all right. thank you very much. developing as we speak right now. these deadly clashes, you may remember though, have escalated since they first began at the end of last november. they blamed the president of back peddleing from a trade deal with russia. now president obama is also telling russia to stop meddling in the region saying this. >> our approach as the united states is not to see these as some cold war chess board in competition with russia. outline goal is to make sure the

people of ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves by their future. >> it's great to see you. we've been talking about this a lot. i think it's important to remember you have followed this crisis very closely. many of our viewers have not. remind us why -- why is this -- what is this fight about in the ukraine and why does it matter so much to the united states and russia? >> if you think of ukraine, we think of it sz a country, we assume it's always been the country with the same borders are the same people, but ukraine is realry divided and historically has been divided between a western half and eastern half. it's been large parts of ukraine used to be part of poland. >> so it was only joined after world war ii. so that point is in a sense longing to reunite with his european history and heritage.

the eastern part on the other hand has long been attached to russia for three or 400 years. so this is a struggle between east and west for the soul of ukraine. and naturally, the raw shans feel a natural affinity to the eastern part. and westerners feel that the western part of ukraine deserves to be in europe. so it's really a struggle for the soul of ukraine. as you say, it involves the rest of the world because each side is searching for an identity. >> at the beginning of this, we do know that protestors were calling for a close relationship with europe. but now, we're hearing protestors call for really almost the overthrow of the ukrainian government, calling for president yanukovych to step down. is that at all a possibility here? >> it seems unlikely. it depends really which way the

ukrainian army goes. >> that's the key, you think? >> if you think about, look at -- remember egypt. that was a case where when the president was threatened, the army decided they were not going to obey any instructions that involved firing on their own people. the question is will the ukrainian army go that way or will it do what the syrian army was done, when there was protests on the street, the government says disburse them by whatever means necessary, they did it. we don't know. but we know that the head of the army, a key general was fired. so clearly there's tension there between the government and the army. >> i saw reports that u.s. military officials, they've been unable to reach the ukrainian counter parts for several days. president obama said there will be consequences if people step over the line. i don't think it's too far -- people remember, not too far in the distant pass, the president

talking about crossing the red line in syria. do you think folks take another line seriously? does it mean anything at this point? >> my experience and there's a lot of good studies that show that people in international relations look at their specific situation more than they look at all these analogies. in the media, we like to think about it that way. but people in ukraine are listening and watching to what's going on in ukraine. we don't have many options that the u.s. is going to send troops or the europeans are going to send troops. really the question is could we do something short of that, sanks. but what would sanctions do? they would isolate the west even more from ukraine and tie the economy even more closely with russia. >> i wanted to ask you about that. you said the europeans really miss played their hand leading up to this.

>> both sides were trying to woo the ukraine. they said you got to reform your economy, you have to make it more market oriented, all good stuff. but it was sort of -- >> very long term. >> very long term modization of ukraine. the raw russians were playing kind of a fast gee yoe political came. we were playing this much slower economic modernization game. as a result of it, the president who had not wanted to be part of yup, said the europeans are being too fussy, i'm going to go with the russians instead. there wasn't a sense of tra tee jik urgency, mostly on the part of the europeans. the u.s. was prodding europe to go faster. europe teends to act very

slowly. >> you'll continue to cover this on your show. but i think the problem they're facing now, you can look at long term, near term goals, but there are people dying in the streets. i think many people are concerned what kind of immediate difference or influence can sanctions play on the fighting we're seeing in the streets. i think people say very little. it's really up to the ukraine to figure itself out right now. >> but we do have this reality. ukraine and large parts of it think of themselves very differently than syria or north korea. if the media shines the light, if there are condemnations from president obama -- >> it will have more of an impact. >> it wants to think of itself as a modern developed country. they don't want to be seen as a third world dictatorship where troops are spraying tear gas on their own people.

>> thank you so much. let's look at what's happening in the morning papers right now. we're going to start with the wall street journal. beware of the law of unintended consequences. officials say the government could expand the nsa's phone data as a result of the lawsuit's seeking to put a stop to it. some say court rules of preserving evidence requiring the agency to stop destroying older phone records. going to go now to the new york times where regulators have introduced new rules to discourage internet providers from letting companies stream content faster for a price. they could be aallowed to discourage netflix and amazon and others to the right to stream music and movies faster. after spending billions on upgrades, they should manage their broad band networks as

they wish. and the los angeles times reporting that the obama administration is trying to strengthen relations in the oil-rich persian gulf. the president will be traveling to saudi arabia next month. many gulf leaders have expressed concern about the white house scaling back its commitments in the middle east. if you're sitting down right now, stand up. here's some news for you that sitting with can be hazardous to your health. a new study says it is a major risk factor for obesity, heart disease, and premajeure death. researchers say every additional hour that you spend sitting increases risk, for seniors in particular, it counsels the risk of being -- doubles the risk of being disabled. get up if you can. happening today, the three men charged with setting a massive wildfire near los angeles are due in court.

they allegedly set an illegal campfire last month despite an elevated risk of wildfire. destroying or damaging a dozen homes. >> and we give you olympic watch. three medal events already in the books today. five to go in sochi. most notable, team usa taking on our neighbors to the north, canada, for the gold in women's hockey. also later, the women's figure skating finals. three americans in contention. let's bring in re chemical nick ls. >> reporter: the headline this morning, one of the russian papers were failure with a picture of the shocking ouster of the russian hockey team. after that game, the coach met with the reporters and said i know you guys are going to eat me alive. i didn't know it's also an expression here in russia, but it is. it was just part of one of the highs and lows here in sochi.

take a look. first, there was shock. then came a waive of national angst. the russian hockey team favored to win gold here, instead knocked out of the games by finland. this was the medal vladimir putin made clear he most wanted for the mother land. now it turns to remaining power houses team usa and canada. on the slopes, a much for celebratory move for ted ligety. his performance, breathe taking. he blazed his way through his second run using a revolutionary turn technique. every other man who ever won the olympic giant slo lamb had been born in europe. his teammate decided not to compete. now, though, it's official, his olympics are over and we may never see the 46-year-old miller

on this stage -- 36-year-old miller on the stage again. american lauren williams became only the fifth athlete to ever medal in both the summer and winter olympics earning a silver. and right behind williams and elana myers, two more americans. meanwhile, at the figure skating rink, battle has commenced. the south korean glided to the top of the leader board. unlike russia's 15-year-old and american gracie gold who both stumbled leaving room for improvement in today's free skate. and a love story. this russian won the bronze, then ten minutes later, her

27-year-old husband grabbed the gold in the men's portion of the event. the sweetest embrace of all atop the olympic podium. now that russian snowboarder you just saw won the gold is actually an american, at least that's how he was born. his american participates grew up in the state of washington. he fell in love with a russian girl and married her. when he decided the u.s. association wasn't giving him the resources to make it to things like the olympic games, he decided to apply for russian sit sebship. they did support him and then he won a gold medal here. an interesting story. >> happy life, happy wife. he went with her country. it's all gravy. obviously we care about the games but there are been a lot of parallel story lines out of there as well, whether it started with security and all

the high jinx to stay there. what's the latest? >> reporter: this has to be one of the more unusual ones. take a look at this video. this is in kate and sent's room. she's shooting out from the door. and that is what she thinks is a wolf. we don't know for sure. could have been a very large husky. either way, not something you really want to encounter in your slippers. they've since gotten it out of there, but that is crazy. we know they've had a stray dog here in sochi. stray wolf problem, we don't know, but it's not good. >> i can't wait to hear what's next. vampires are next i'm sure. >> that's a wolf. that's a wolf right there is what that was. that's a wolf. >> that is a wolf. >> be careful, rachel. my good ens. >> the rules of get down low and get down flat do not apply when

it's a wolf. >> thank you. let's give you a quick check of the medal count. team usa still leading followed by russia and the netherlands. still in fourth, canada rounds out the top five. >> remember the old saturday night live, it was the land shark? that's a wolf prowling the hallways. i was late. why? wolf in the hallway. the dunn verdict. it's being called the loud music trial by it's about how the law punishes or does not punish gun violence in florida. many are disappointed with prosecutor angela corey. will she do things differently when she retries the main count? her thoughts on the hot debate. she says it is missing something

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welcome back. fair or not, a lot of people believe the prosecution is 0-2 in florida. zimmerman and dunn. dunn, even though there were multiple attempts on attempted murder. they winded up hung in the most important count, first degree murder for the death of jordan davis. angela corey opens up. can she hang on is a real question. she also talked about the self defense law itself and what it

is doing to justice in florida. here's what she had to say. >> people look at zimmerman, they look at dunn, and they say young black men aren't be protected by the law. you disagree. >> i completely disagree. the focus needs to be on all violence against all race all ages and it doesn't matter who's on either side of that gun. it's all on violation of florida law if the facts are supported by what the law says is illegal. >> the speculation is jordan davis shoots michael is the same situation they get thrown into jail and the key is somewhere else. if you flip the races and things are where they are now, people walk. >> that's completely false. that's not what the cases show. until the media focuses on a

sampling of all cases, the people won't understand that that simply is not true. these deaths were a tragedy, all victims who die at the hands of illegal actions are tragedies. we need to put the focus on all of them, not just isolated cases. >> can you understand why when you hear about a case like trayvon martin. we don't know what happens, but they wind up getting into a fight. the kid winds up being in control of it and he gets shot and killed and yet there's no punishment. you can understand why that outrages people. >> absolutely. i can understand that. what people have to understand is that we have a high burden of proof. self defense is a tough law for us to overcome. especially where there's injury to someone. we fought so hard for that conviction and the jury simply could not find him guilty beyond

any reasonable doubt. why would the prosecution ever, ever take a hit for that. >> because people feel it was a pretty obvious situation, a man who killed somebody when he didn't need to and walking around free and a young man is gone. >> i understand that, chris. i do understand their sentiment and we were hurt by that as well. but what they have to understand is that had nothing to do with race. it has to do with the laws of justifiable juice of deadly force. >> a lot of criticism about all this stuff we've heard of coming out of prison about michael dunn, the phone calls that seem to show obvious character assumptions that he held, you say you couldn't put those in trial. explain. >> there was a motion in limbny filed by the defense. the judge granted it in part and denied it in part.

so all the people out there again who are saying that we should have put in all of the phone calls and letters, they might want to read the florida rules of evidence. >> you're going to retry the case. many of us, including me, thought that this was an easy case for the state to win. i was shocked by the verdict. >> this is our system. this jury got a lot of time to deliberate and we believe they did the best they could considering florida affirmative defense of the use of deadly force. >> does the law need to change? >> you know, chris, i believe prosecutors and the sheriff's association are in favor of the former laws that we had on justifiable use of deadly force. and we do believe that before someone should engage in a physical altercation or especially an altercation where deadly force is used, we do believe there should be a duty to retreat. >> who's keeping the law from changing? we had sheriff judd on who said

stand your ground law works just fine. realize if you're wrong, you're going to jail. no, that's not true. that's what the michael dunn case just showed. who's changing this law, you have to think before you kill somebody, you have to think about it before you think about taking lethal action. >> chris, michael dunn is going to jail. he's still in jail. he's going to be sentenced. michael dunn is looking at 90 years in florida state prison with 60 years of minimum mandatory. how anyone could be unhappy with these verdicts knowing we intend to retry count one is beyond me, but we're going to keep going into the courtroom and fighting for justice for our victims without regard to what people are saying even though it is uninformed and ill informed. >> we covered a lot of topics.

we'll have more of this interview for you on cnn. really important for people. we've been following this. when you hear a prosecutor say that the law needs to change -- that was the surprising -- >> you have to remember what that does in the law. it gives responsibility to wrong actions. if you just decide to engage with force and you could have done something else to avoid a situation, you can't claim self defense. that's not the case in florida. because stand your ground is in the actual self defense law. >> and this goes beyond the castle doctrine. >> much. george zimmerman. he wasn't in his house. he was in the street. in the self defense law, you have the right to stand your ground, it means that you don't have to think. that means, you don't have to think can i get out of this before i take him on. >> even if you start it and all of a sudden you find yourself in

a situation where you can't handle what you started, i feel like my life is in danger, you can use more force than necessary. >> the verdict in the michael dunn case and george zimmer man case she makes an interesting point that there are more cases that they try that kind of involved these laws than we cover in the media. there are more cases beyond this. this should be taken into account. >> they have a good record down there. she says i punish black on black crime, white on white crime, white on black crime, i punish all of it. >> but the high-profile ones are the ones that get attention and those are the ones that can make the change. >> she didn't disagree that it's good we're focusing on these cases because this is the discussion we need to have. you need to hear about it because that's what keeps the discussion going. >> and she degrees that there's a problem with the law.

>> she does. what matters here is the parents of jordan davis. they're going to be with us next hour. they're going to talk with us about what the verdict means to the family, how they feel about retrying michael dunn and a what they think of the law and what they want you to know coming up. we're going to take another break. coming up next on "new day," we all have opinions on this one. i say we don't even need to cover this guy, but we are. the texas governor's race is getting heated. why, because rocker ted nugent who doesn't have any impact on public policy joined greg abbott on the campaign trail. was abbott outraged by nugent's slur? we're going to find out. but i maintain, not news. want e. an expert ford technician knows your car's health depends on a full, complete checkup. the works.

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welcome back to "new day." a lot of news. let's get straight to don in for michaela pereira. breaking news, a truce in name only in ukraine. fresh street battles breaking out overnight brian riot police and protestors. look at that building. it's just burned out there. the square has been ground zero for anti-government demonstrations. it might be the city's worst violence yet. they are blaming protestors for breaking the truce. they say its athletes at the sochi olympics held a moment of silence for their country men

killed in kiev violence. >> terrorists are once again trying to hide explosives in shoes, cosmetics and liquids and there's evidence that they're deploying new ways to do it. it reportedly mentions over two dozen cities overseas, but the threat is not tied to any known plot and unred lighted to recent warnings about toothpaste. the final day of nuclear talks with iran in vienna. they have worked out a timetable and a framework for the next round of negotiations for iranians in march. they are trying to for forge a long-term agreement in exchange for an easing of sanctions. today a hearing will be held about the ups crash into the alabama airport. they want to get a clear picture of what went wrong in the crash

that left two crew members dead. the exact cause of the crash has yet to be released. new questions this morning for texas gubernatorial candidate greg abbott who's been sharing the stage with rocker ted nugent. had is under fire once again for calling the president of the united states a quote, subhuman mongrel. we caught up with greg abbott. >> reporter: texas republican greg abbott is in a high-profile race for governor. on wednesday, abbott found a friendly crowd inside this restaurant. when we asked about his campaigning with right wing rocker ted nugent, things got tense. why did you think it was a good idea to campaign with ted nugent? >> it's funny how reactive the davis campaign is to this. it shows that he's driven a

wedgend exposed the fraud that they have displayed on second amendment based issues. so ted nugent was a way to expose wendy davis for her flip-flopping on gun-related issues. >> reporter: but this is texas. finding someone who is pro guns is not that hard. why is it it have to be ted nugent. him nor his campaign would answer the question. this picture greeting voters at this campaign stop showing the candidate next to his hunting trofy shows it all. >> you could have found a lot of people to talk about gun rights. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> you could have found a lot of people to talk about gun rights. >> i'll be happy to. >> that's not a press conference. one question is not a press conference. who told you -- we said

specifically we wanted to talk. >> we tried one more time to ask if greg abbott would appear with attitude nugent. would you give us a chance to clarify on ted nugent? why would you associate yourself with someone who describes the president as a subhuman mongrel? will you use him again in a campaign? >> reporter: he didn't answer the question that time either and headed back out on the campaign trail. tyler, texas. >> this is why i get so wound up about this. there is an element of -- we get to pick what we mutt in -- put in the newscast. ted nugent i don't think impacts anyone's life. >> he's a flame thrower. >> thank goodness for the first amendment. doesn't mean we have to listen. we shouldn't be giving him a louder mega phone.

there are legitimate questions why someone who wants to run a state wants to associate with his comments. >> you just answered your own questions. >> i know, but still. >> this is not new, you guys. he came to the state of the union. >> you're going to get judged by who you put around you. when obama was running as senator and reverend judiciaere wright was there, it became an issue. >> we cover ted nugent because he's a spect tall and it's not necessarily news worthy all the time. if you want to associate yourself with that and you're running for office, it's a big deal. it's the same thing about zimmer man. >> you have to think about the relevance and context. do you keep saying what nugent says, do you spread his message? no. do you judge the man putting him

out there as a representative for him, especially when too often they use extremists on both sides. they say, well, the other guys do it too. not good enough. >> right. stability in -- civility in politics has to start with someone. >> sure. >> people on the left have said crazy stuff too. they're extreme and wrong. and i think you got to call out all of it. >> and i pick one to be upset about. >> sure. you can be upset. i like it. just don't hit me in the break. we're going to take a break right now. one sometimes is the loaniest number. it's a reality for 60 million people who have to dealing alone. overcoming it could be as easy as saying hello. really? yes. we'll explain. there's this kid.

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♪ that's how i feel on the set sometimes. >> so lonely. welcome back. a surprising epidemic affecting some 60 million americans. loneliness. dr. sanjay gupta has teamed up with o magazine. it's called the just say hello campaign. listen to this. >> when was the last time you said hello to a stranger passing you on the street or a friend you hadn't seen in years? >> hi. >> hi. >> how you doing? >> hello. >> oh, hello there. look at you. hey girl. looking good. >> thanks ellen. >> oh it's going to come back on me. thanks, ellen. dr. sanjay gupta, hello sanjay. let's start with that.

it seems simple. you say it's going to have a big impact. >> power of a single word. we're lonelier as a society than we've been in a long time. what struck me from a physical standpoint if someone's having a heart problem for example, you might know to go over there and pump on their chest. if someone is suffering from loneliness, we tend to avoid those people. this was part of this campaign was to try and address that prar issue. recognizing that loneliness by itself is a risk factor for so many different things. it increases your risk of premature death almost twice as much. >> what is loneliness. are you saying it as another word for depression? >> they define it as perceived social isolation. you believe you've been socially isolated for some reason.

we used to think that the reason that they didn't have as good health was that no one was checking on them, whatever it might be, but we now know there's something much more fundamental happening in their brains. we know evolutionarily, when we evolved as a species, we did it together. people that weren't part of the center, ended up not getting food and water and stuff like that. that's part of the reason they probably die young even now. >> are there places where people are lonelier? i'm in a big city in new york city. i find myself being more alone than when i lived in atlanta which has fewer people. i don't know what that is actually. >> you can be surrounded by people and be lonely still. that is absolutely true. we know there are certain demographics of people that are more lonely. it's >> we don't know why that is.

we don't know the impaskt how social media has changed all this. they have this perceived social isolation. i am alone and don't necessarily want to be this way. >> how do you fix it? is it as simple as just saying hello? >> you need an inroad into those people. you need to be sort of empowered as a greeter to reach out to that person in some way. the hello is the beginning of that. it's not the end. hopefully that will lead to more meaningful relationships. but right now, again, as opposed to avoiding people, you think maybe these loaners or whatever are actually reaching out to them could start something -- >> when you say hello to people in manhattan, coming from atlanta, they are like -- >> that's part of the problem, right? >> culture created a problem. is that we have become more isolated, more fearful of each other. and it's a problem. especially here. we're supposed to all be about

blending. >> small thing with a huge impact. if it's just as simple as starting with a hello and has that big of an impact. >> it's good for the greeter, too. you'll feel better about it as well. and, look, this problem is growing as you say. but if -- you guys deal with so many tough problems on this show. i was watching the show. this is a fixable issue if we all change the culture in this way, then five years from now, it's going to be a different culture where people are much more embracing of each other, much more willing to accept things and saying hello to each other in some way or another. >> curmudgeons like me -- >> you are a lost cause. >> i have to shoot pages for a special after this show but t n then -- >> you can only do so much. >> he doesn't have two more shows. >> why am i the only one that doesn't -- >> he doesn't have shows.

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♪ angel is a centerfold applies. welcome back to "new day." when it comes to the swimsuit issue, "sports illustrated" always goes above and beyond. this time with kate upton.

literally. out of this world, literally. cnn's jeanne moos has that. >> reporter: we've seen everything from toothbrushes to tortillas in zero gravity. but gravity turns to levity when it's a "sports illustrated" swimsuit model floating by. that's kate upton, up, up and thankfully not upchucking away. kate in the "sports illustrated" crew board eed the plane that climbs steeply then dives. the top of the hump they experience weightlessness for about 30 seconds. and pay 5,000 bucks to fly up and down about 15 times. but now it was kate upton's turn. zero-g or bust. >> twirling. i was upside down. it was one of my favorite experiences so far in my life.

>> reporter: zero gravity flights have a reputation for being so-called vomit comets. but zero g says only 4% of their passengers actually get sick and kate upton wasn't one of them. >> kate was a dream up there. >> reporter: company president teres brewster notes the fuselage is padded so when gravity returns you don't get hurt. in her teeny weeny $35 bikinis from target she, was wearing less than sandra bullock did in "gravity." it seemed to be channelling the famous opening credit scene from "barbarella." not only did jane fonda do a spacy striptees but the credits maintained fonda's modesty. last year, jimmy fallon was interviewing kate about her last swimsuit edition shoot in antarctica when he mused about a final frontier for her next

shoot. >> space. >> next year. >> think about this. >> there's no gravity. >> it's incredible. >> we know what jimmy and the audience were imagining. >> how does the lack of gravity affect the positioning of your bosom? do things float? >> i think they just don't move, really. >> america's first female astronaut sally ride was once asked if you need to wear a bra in space. her reply, there is no sag in zero g. and guys, there's no hoping that the bikini won't just -- >> lift off. >> what? what? >> it's a legitimate news story. swimsuit issue. being in zero g is very important. we have to prepare for what the next level of space travel is. i've been on the vomit comet,

the zero-g plane. >> that was a really great legitimacy. >> tweet us what you think about that. >> i thought it was a very cool photo shoot. >> i thought it was cool. i like kate upton. >> they put a rocket at the end of it. >> nobody got that. >> it's 7:15 in the morning. go get a coffee and come back. we'll start anew. coming up next, we'll get back to our major headlines of the day. we're going to be talking to the parents of florida teenager jordan davis. jordan was killed in the loud music shooting. we're going to talk with them about the trial and whether they believe michael dunn got away with murder and what they want to see done about it now. hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief!

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our goal is to make sure that the people of ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves. >> breaking news. truce no more. trust hours after a cease-fire is called, violence erupts in the ukraine. dozens dead. our reporters are in the thick of the chaos as the president of the united states weighs in and is getting pressure to do more. we're live with the latest. new threat in the sky. the department of homeland security with a new warning about shoe bombs. and we have new details on where the threat is coming from. big winner. only one winning ticket in the blockbuster power ball drawing overnight. someone is waking up $400 million richer. how great would it be if it's you? your new day continues right now. this is "new day" with chris

cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. welcome back. it's thursday, february 20th, 8:00 in the east. we're following the breaking news out of the ukraine. a new wave of deadly violence coming just hours after the government and the opposition agree to a truce and it's said they're going to start negotiations. well, at least 20 people were killed overnight as riot police and protesters crashed again in kiev's independence square. crowds are still gathered there. ukraine's president is blaming the demonstrators for breaking the truce. cnn's nick payton walsh is in kiev with more. >> reporter: chris, kate, a terrifying escalation in the violence here in the heart of ukraine, kiev. on the street near where i'm standing, live gunfire knocking down, kill something protesters brought into the lobby of this hotel, 11 bodies counted there by our team. at some point this morning, the police withdrew from their positions causing protesters to move forward. that, it seems, was met by live

gunfire. i've spoken to protesters who have fired shotguns at the police. with the death toll rising and protesters moving towards police positions, the old positions they held before police moved into here. what comes next? does the army move in? do things escalate further. a real sense of urgency and fear here. chris, kate? >> nick, thank you very much. on one level, those who were pure -- pro-european on one side of ukraine. the other, pro-russian. on the other level this becomes about the u.s. and russia and now president obama is condemning the bloodshed and telling russia this is not a cold war rematch. cnn's athena jones is at the white house with more. >> reporter: good morning, chris. the obama administration is watching these developments in ukraine closely. this new wave of violence we're seeing comes after president obama warned the government there to show restraint and called on the protesters to

remain peaceful. before the president left mexico last night, he talked about what he'd like to see for the people of ukraine. >> our approach as the united states is not to see these as some cold war chess board in which we're in competition with russia. our goal is to make sure that the people of ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future. that the people of syria are able to make the decisions without having bombs going off. >> now the goal here is to stop the violence to allow room for talks between the government of president jankovic and the opposition. these would eventually lead to free and fair elections. the u.s. is banning the issuance of visas for 20 ukrainian officials they say are behind the crackdown against these protesters. more sanctions could come but the question is how effective would they be? you have russia that's standing

by to offer economic relief in the form of billions of dollars in aid and loans and the like. kate? >> athena, thank you from the white house this morning. also new warnings from the department of homeland security alerting airlines of possible shoe bombs from terrorists. officials say there's not a specific threat but the terrorist may be working on new designs for the bomb. this after recent concerns from authorities over potential hidden explosives in toothpaste and cosmetic tubes. let's get straight over to barbara star who has the latest on these warnings. troubling, barbara. >> very troubling, kate. good morning. if you are at the airport getting ready to fly, you may notice more scrutiny from security personnel. new concern terrorists my target direct flights from overseas heading to the u.s. the department of homeland security is warning airlines that terrorists may attempt to hide explosives in shoes, cosmetics and liquids.

according to one industry source, the advisory mentions more than two dozen cities overseas, including johannesburg, paris, london, cairo and some additional cities in the middle east. >> the dhs warning is nonspecific, but the universe of people who have desire and capability is not large. it's al qaeda and al qaeda on the arabian peninsula. >> this demonstration shows the potential devastation a shoe bomb could cause. intelligence indicates terror groups have been working on a new shoe bomb design. and it's not the first time they've tried to blow up a plane that way. shortly after 9/11, passengers on an american airlines flight from paris to miami thwarted richard reed's attempt to deadinate explosives hidden in his sneakers. after that, the tsa started asking everyone in the u.s. to take their shoes off while going through security. this new warning comes just two weeks after u.s. officials

warned airlines terrorists could hide explosives in toothpaste tubes on flights heading to russia ahead of the sochi olympics. officials say this new threat is unrelated. and al qaeda and its affiliates, especially al qaeda in yemen, remain a top concern. officials will tell you those groups have never given up their desire to attack the united states. chris? >> thank you, barbara. tens of millions are in the path of some potentially damaging weather today. we're talking extreme weather ranging in all different ways across the country. severe storms moving over the mid-atlantic. tornadoes threatening the midwest. blizzard conditions are also moving in for the upper midwest. i know all of this because meteorologist indra petersons told me it. what else do we see? >> the key is just to be aware. the threat of these warm temperatures and rain through the ohio valley and midwest. flooding concerns still going to be a concern in that region. then blizzard concerns. still more snow.

especially talking about parts of min and upstate portions of wisconsin. heavy snow, over a foot of snow combining with 50-mile-per-hour winds and that is not even the big story today. we are talking about all this cold air into the midwest and southeast. above normal temperatures. a system making its way right through there and you have this severe weather threat. that's a huge concern today. actually upgraded now to a moderate risk. so a heightened risk toward louisville, nashville, even memphis. straight line winds. cannot rule out the threat of tornados in this region. i always stress this is something to be aware of even as you go to bed tonight. this threat will continue through these late evening hours when you are tucked into bed. that heightened risk will be out there. even by tomorrow, this threat spreads into the mid-atlantic, down through florida. combining almost 60 million of you in the path of the severe weather. by next week, why it's warm right now. another change. the arctic blast is returning and temperatures are going back down. there's so much out there. a lot of variety.

severe today. next week, back to the cold. >> roller coaster continues. thanks, indra. let's get back over to don lemon in for michaela. >> we'll begin with breaking news overnight. calls for an investigation into u.s. drone attack in yemen. human rights watch saying that the december strike may have violated president obama's targeted killing policy. the group says as many as a dozen people were killed on their way to a wedding in yemen. among them, the bride. u.s. officials have said only members of al qaeda were killed in the december strike. they have not released the results of the two investigations. venezuela's opposition leader remains in military -- in a military prison after a court hearing. apollo lopez faces charges of murder and terrorism. the venezuela president medura blames him for inciting violence that's led to at least five deaths. he's vowed to go forward with the prosecution of lopez. in mississippi, 11 teenagers were taken to the hospital and

another 14 people hurt after a church floor collapsed wednesday night. it happened in a second floor activity center at the freedom baptist church. as many as 79 people, including kids in grades 7 through 12 inside when the floor suddenly gave way. thankfully all the injuries are described as minor. and facebook has acquired the text messaging app whatsapp for a massive $19 billion. the move is part of facebook's push to add younger users who use the app that allows for texts, video pictures and other messages. both sides say that whatsapp will continue to operate independently. they currently have about 450 million users. >> i just downloaded it. when you down -- i downloaded it again and then got rid of it. when you download it it will be if you want to be lazy, just hit facebook and it will put your profile and everything in and take all your contacts. done. one fell swoop.

>> there you go. it's happening. >> and that's why they put the price tag on it because they just got all those users. >> whatsapp. breaking overnight, a single winning $425 million powerball ticket. that one ticket sold in the san francisco bay area and we're waiting for the lucky ticket holder to come forward. in case you haven't checked your numbers, here are the winning numbers for you and the powerball. 34. let's check in with stephanie elam who is in california where that ticket was sold. what more do we know? >> reporter: well, we know that we're not far from where whatsapp is. billionaires over there and millionaires over here. we're not far from that, kate. and what we do know is one single ticket had all the numbers and it was sold here at this chevron gas station. pretty much at the gateway to silicon valley here. we know that this was the sixth largest jackpot in u.s. history. and the odds of someone hitting

it with all the numbers, 1 in 175 million or something like that. so crazy that just one ticket was hit. we also know that two other tickets hit in california with all the numbers except for one. so they should probably be seeing some cool cash, too. but overall, everyone is waiting to see who this person is. when i think about what i would do, i would probably call a lawyer first. i've been asking people that on my twitter account. who would you call first, chris? >> i would call kate balduan and say how do you like me now? how do you like me now? >> i'm rolling my eyes. you can't hear it, steph, but i'm rolling my eyes. >> no, i can hear it. >> it did sound like he was going to call you to gloat. >> kate, look what i did. i won a bunch of money that we're going to split 50/50. >> a nose just hit me in the face. american david weis is taking home a gold medal and

plenty of pride. he won the halfpipe skiing competition with some ridiculous midair moves. wise, the win represents vindication after many counted him out when he decided to start a family that sidetracked his career. rachel nichols spoke with him and is back with us. rachel? >> yeah, chris, america's newest golden boy, he got married before he was 21 years old. he's a youth pastor in his church. as david likes to say, that pretty much makes him a member of the counterculture when it comes to extreme action sports. but he thinks the very things that made him different are the things that helped him win that gold medal. take a look. you are the only person at this olympics that i have seen so far who has been greeted by giant heads of a baby when coming down for your gold medal run. tell us what that was. >> oh, yeah, unfortunately, my daughter wasn't able to make it out here with the fam. >> she's 2 1/2. >> russia was a little bit of a

far trip for her. but my wife surprised me and made a big cutout of her face. the first thing i saw when i landed my first run and looked down to the crowd because i was trying to find my family was this giant cutout of my daughter's face. pretty cool. >> your daughter has really changed your perspective on your sport of all things, which is a strange thing to hear. oh, i have a baby and start winning a bunch of medals. >> people wrote me off when they found out i was having a kid. i'm young and -- >> you are 23? >> yeah, 23. wow, that's the end of his competitive career. for me it created this balance in my life. >> was the stress of competition before, was that too much when you didn't have that balance? >> i don't know if it was just ironic timing because it was a long road. i remember sitting there watching the x games years in a row and i could do every trick the guy that was winning was doing. it was kind of a painful thing for me because it's like, why can't i land these runs? i would land ten runs in a row in practice and ghen to compete

and crash. i feel like i'm successful now because i've failed so much in the past and learned so much from my mistakes. but it definitely played a part into it when i realized, hey, what people think of me doesn't matter. i have everything i need right here in my family and they love me. and i'm content with that. and then i was able to just go out and enjoy skiing and not put so much pressure on myself. then i started riding really well. >> here at the olympics, the giant baby head which are apparently what a competitor needs to succeed here. also something special in your pocket. what was it? >> another sappy element. i did not realize how much of a silly romantic i was until i got married. i always bring my wife back a little heart shaped rock from wherever i go. when we're not together so that she knows i was thinking of her. we have this huge collection on our front porch of all these heart shaped rocks. so anyways, lexi, that's kind of become a big part of our story. she brought me one from reno. so a little piece of home for me to carry around in my pocket.

and just my good luck charm, i guess. >> guys, a lot of people waiting to see what the action sports community does with david, his gold medal and all the attention he's gotten. he's not the typical representative of their community. some people who don't like sort of that he's so different. so they are waiting to see, are they really going to go out and market this guy the way they do their more cool dude competitors. he's betting that who he is and what he represents is going to be very appealing to a lot of people. i think so, guys. don't you? >> oh, yeah. >> he's a pretty cool dude. >> when he gets here, there are a lot more people like him living their faith and are churched up than the extreme sports type so i think he's going to be in good company. >> churched up? who do you think you are. churched up. >> he is churched up. let's take another break. >> i feel cool off of a sudden. >> well, you are cool some days. we're going to talk about this. jordan davis' death sparked nationwide anger. now the verdict from his killer's trial is triggering a

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welcome back to "new day." the death of 17-year-old jordan davis and the trial of michael dunn has sparked a debate. to jordan davis' parents this starts about what matters most, their son and honoring his legacy. joining us now are jordan davis' parents, lucia mcbath and ron davis. thank you both for joining us. i'm sorry it's under these circumstances. and while i know you have so much that you want to discuss that matters to people in this debate, i have to start with

your son. so many of us have only gotten to know him through how his life was taken. but remind us of who was lost. remind us what made him special, lucia. >> jordan was a fun-loving, very compassionate, sensitive child. he spent a lot of time making friends. he made them very, very easily. it was often amazed how quickly he would make friends. we would be in an environment where we didn't know anybody. within 10, 15 minutes, mom, this is my new friend. i made a new friend. he was a very genuine personality. he just loved people. he really loved people. i used to say to him all the time, i think you are going to be a social activist or a politician or something because he was always able to bring people together. >> why would you wish that on him? >> i know. >> just said he was a good person. he liked people. >> you are -- you do not need to be in a position to defend your son. that is patently wrong.

however, when i heard that verdict, and the assumptions that must be made, whether it's two or three jurors that, well, maybe michael dunn did think there was a gun and maybe it did -- they did get rid of it. that makes assumptions about the kids in the car. what do you want people to know about the kids who were in that car, specifically your son and the chance that he has a weapon and that they then got rid of it. >> first thing, if either of those kids had a weapon or they had trouble with the law if they'd been arrested, it would have all come out in court because, believe me, the defense attorney was digging for something on those children. you know, to victimize the children again. and those were good kids. he found out through digging, he had a private investigator. these were good kids. they were not gangsters or thugs, as they say. during the trial, they kept turning it around to prove you're not a thug or prove you're not a gangster. why should we have to do that? it's up to you to prove the

character of the person that shot my son. they never went to his character. now all of the things are coming out about his character and what he's done in the past. you know, we find that he put a gun up to his ex-wife's head and all these other things. so i think we should stop victimizing the victims at this point. >> so the verdict comes. i know -- i spoke to angela corey the prosecutor. they talked to you. you had your own counsel who prepared you as the deliberations went on that there may be dissatisfaction. when you heard the verdict, guilty, guilty, guilty for missing. we can't decide for killing jordan. what sense? >> we were prepared for that. definitely counsel had prepared us for that very thing. they had prepared us to -- for the fact that the problem would be jordan's charge alone. so we were prepared for that. there again, for us, that's the ambiguity with the law. the jury instructions, including the stand your ground

legislation that all involved, that is the ambiguity. that's the problem with the law. so for the jurors, they are going to look at that aspect of their jury instructions and use -- utilize that to make a decision about jordan. >> now juror number four comes out. she tries to speak about it. we had a lot of disagreements and we were fighting over it, trying to get it right. we worked very hard. do you believe the jury simply got it wrong? do you believe the prosecutor had the wrong strategy, or do you believe, i think suggesting what you were just talking about, that this is about the law and this is about culture. >> this is the law because the instructions they give the jury, they have a choice of using, as john guy said, common sense. then you look at the law and that's not the same. common sense and the law is not the same thing. unfortunately. because you look at the first

charge, first-degree murder. you have to show premeditation. under the law, premeditation could be two or three seconds. >> could be getting the gun out of the glove box. >> exactly. >> so under the law, but to the layman, premeditation is if you go home to get a gun or go in your car separately to get a gun or you plan something. to us, that's premeditation. but to the law, it could be three seconds. >> you say common sense. i'm sure one of the first lessons you had with your son, especially because he's african-american if somebody gets on you, get away from it. don't match ugly with ugly. find the way out of a situation. don't tell me he hit you first. in the law, the duty retreat, to find a nonviolent way out is removed in florida. how important do you think that is? >> that is the key. that is the most crucial element of the stand your ground law because you are giving the criminal the authority, empowering the criminal to do whatever they want to do with no

duty to be responsible or accountable for backing away from the confrontation. >> even though the law will stay the same, do you want this retried by angela corey? >> why we do. >> i assume we means both. >> we do. absolutely. >> even though this has to be horrible for you because every day you lose that courtroom and there's so much ugliness and hostility and doubt and then you go home and your son is not there. what gives you the strength to go through this again? >> the world needs to know that jordan davis did nothing wrong. this man is guilty of killing our son, of murdering our son. and the law, the way it is now, creates hung juries and that's what we have here. so what we want to do is go to tallahassee. we're going to go to tallahassee to the state capitol and try to get the stand your ground law rewritten. we'll probably do that in march because it needs to be rewritten. had our son been by himself, think about this, chris.

if our son was by himself and there were no witnesses, would he have justice ever? we have witnesses, independent witnesses, we have three boys in the car. we have all types of evidence but yet that stand your ground instruction always keeps people wondering whether it's guilty or not guilty. >> so you guys, as a point of advocacy here, you are dividing and conquering. you have two issues. the culture. why are we so quick to use guns. why is that seen as a reasonable reaction to someone with a gun or why do they even have a gun. and then the law. you want both addressed? >> yes, absolutely. and it has to -- they both have to be addressed because they are both huge components to the entire gun culture in the country. and you can't do one without the other. so i spend a lot of time with moms demand action for gun sense in america which i've become a national spokesperson for and that is our mission to make sure that we bring to light and

expose all of the laws in our nation that are not effective in keeping our citizens safe. >> and it won't be easy. >> no. >> this is one of the really troubling parts. right now everybody knows your son's name. but think about what happened after the zimmerman. trayvon martin. big outrage. that was a much tougher case, by the way, for the prosecution than the michael dunn case and people say, we want zimmerman to go away. but what happens when it goes away? has the law changed? is the outrage there? >> no, they are outraged at george zimmerman. we're trying to help. the media has to keep talking about these things. painful for you but otherwise the dialogue doesn't happen. you are in one mind of wanting to advocate and making sure your son's life has a legitimate legacy. but you are divided on something. when you look at michael dunn, you see a possibility for forgiveness. you do not. >> that is correct. >> why do you see that? his position would be the one most -- we're more comfortable

with. i never side against a wife. i understand that. mom is always right. but how? how can you? >> i think a lot of that has to do with gender. for a man, it might be harder for him to have forgiveness. for women, we are creatures of emotion. but more than that, my faith commands that i do. and i cannot, not forgive michael dunn when i was teaching jordan to love, accept and forgive, despite whatever has happened. and i never imagined that i would be called by god to forgive michael dunn, but if i did not forgive him, then i could not continue to do the work and make this the legacy for jordan that we've really tried so hard for it to be. >> the struggle of the questions that come up about faith when something so wrong happens and yet leaning on it so heavily to help motivate something that otherwise is so difficult for a parent to survive.

that is incredible strength for you. and while you say you will not forgive -- >> right. >> you say you would visit. you would speak to the man and say? >> the reason why i said i will not forgive is because to me you have to be remorseful. you have to say, you know what? i killed this kid. maybe there was another way out. maybe i shouldn't have killed this kid. he was never remorseful. his family hasn't been remorseful to us. haven't come and apologized for the death of our kid. they all just think of each other. even if they have to visit him in jail, they still have their child. so i feel that, if you aren't remorseful and you say if you had it to do all over again you'd do the same thing because you were defending yourself, then how can i forgive you if you aren't remorseful for what you did. you mean to me if you had ten times to do it you would kill my child ten times because you don't think you did anything wrong. i cannot forgive that because my child was a wonderful child. and you took something away from my family that we'll never get

back. >> i know this is a conversation you wish you never had to have. we will be there if this is retried. we will cover it. we will cover the bigger issues. >> thank you so much. >> it's not always popular. it's not always easy. as hard as it is to imagine in your position, there are many on the other side who believe that these laws are the right way and that's why they were passed in the first place. we will cover the issue. we'll do it every chance we get. >> thank you so much. >> again, i'm sorry to meet you this way, but thank you for telling your story here. good luck going forward. kate? >> chris, thank you. coming up next on "new day," texas senator ted cruz responding to the latest controversy about ted nugent. what he has to say about the rocker's incendiary remarks about president obama. an exclusive interview with senator cruz coming up next. vid. so i got the new nokia lumia icon. it's got 1080p video,

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another cnn exclusive for you now. we showed you an interview earlier with republican senator ted cruz talking about his fight with members of his own party and his future as well. well, now the texas senator is also weighing in on the latest controversy surrounding ted nugent and ted cruz's home state. the state's attorney general greg abbott, campaigned alongside nugent as he runs for governor, despite the most recent incendiary comments nugent has made calling president obama a subhuman mongrel. dana bash spoke exclusively with senator cruz. she's in houston for us this morning. dana, you talked about many things in this interview, of course. this is one of the many topics that came up. >> that's right. because, obviously, this is a national story. but for ted cruz as a republican in texas, it's a local story. so i wanted to get his thoughts on the controversy and whether or not he would campaign with

them. listen to his answers. >> because we're here in texas, i want to play something for you that has been playing all over the air waves pretty much everywhere nationally and even internationally. >> a chicago communist-raised, communist educated. communist nurtured subhuman mongrel might be acorn community organizer, gangster barack hussein obama. >> that's ted nugent. he's campaigning here with the leading republican candidate to be your next governor. is that appropriate for them to campaign together? >> look, i had not seen that video until you just played it. >> what do you think of it? >> i think it is a little curious that -- to be questioning political folks about rock stars. i got to tell you, listen. i'm not cool enough to hang out with any rock stars. jay-z doesn't come over to my house. i don't hang out with -- >> jay-z doesn't call the president a subhuman mongrel. is this an appropriate thing to say? >> i would be willing to bet

that the president's hollywood friends have said some pretty extreme things. >> the reason i played that for you is this week texas, he was invited to campaign with the man who may be your next governor in your party. >> those sentiments there, of course i don't agree with them. you've never heard me say such a thing, nor would i. there's a reason ted nugent, people listen to him. he has been fighting passionately for second amendment rights. >> would you campaign with ted nugent. >> i haven't yet and i'm going to avoid engaging in hypotheticals. >> so he's not going there. clearly he doesn't appear to know ted nugent well, unlike other politicians here in texas because he is such a staple on the political scene here. kate and chris, one of the reasons i wanted to bring this up with him is because the controversy it sparked kind of is -- frankly, it's disturbing the kind of things he said and the reason why the gubernatorial

candidate asked him to campaign is because he understands that he's a popular person, not despite the kinds of comments, controversial comments that nugent made. but even because of those comments here in the lone star state with many in the republican base. and so it really does go to the heart of why politics is broken because these kinds of comments in some parts of the elect rora are applauded and it helps some candidates. >> the definition of being a leader is doing something that may not be popular because it's the right thing to do. and i think condemning those comments and saying it just ain't right is the right thing to do. >> yep. >> thanks, dana. >> and that's what ted cruz did. >> you're right. thank you. coming up on "new day," a big gift for a top university. harvard is getting some help for financial aid. we'll tell you how much, which will blow you away, and talk about it with the president of harvard university coming up. and she conquered the

slopestyle in sochi. now she faces the real challenge. a "new day" interview. jamie anderson will be joining us to talk about her serious success at the olympics.

welcome back. an enormous gift this morning to one of our country's top universities. hedge fund ceo ken griffin is handing over, get this, $150 million to harvard. a hefty sum. the university plans to use as scholarship for hundreds of undergraduate students. let's talk more about what an

amazing gift this will be and what benefit it will bring. to answer that, drew faust, the president of harvard university. thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you so much for having me. >> of course. >> this is a huge number. $150 million. you could argue this is going to change lives. whose lives is this going to change? what students will benefit from this? >> this is going to be substantial portion of this gift will be dedicated to undergraduate financial aid and to making permanent harvard's commitment to expand its support for students from every income background. we wish to make sure that students have the opportunity to come to harvard if they have the talent to take advantage of our educational offerings. and we want to send a strong message that this is our commitment. and this marvelous gift from ken griffin has made an important statement about harvard's

affordability and accessibility and has also provided us the means to make our commitments permanent through an endowment for financial aid. >> i wanted to ask you about that. harvard is in a good position where it's not necessarily hurting for cash. there's some $32 billion in the endowment. what does this gift do that the school couldn't do already? >> well, over the last decade, we have greatly expanded our commitment to financial aid and the number of dollars that we have dedicated to it. we have a policy that provides that for students from families that make under $65,000 a year, contribution to harvard tuition and room and board. and then for students and families up to about $150,000 a year, we are committed to, in general, not having those families pay more than 10% of their income towards the cost of college. and so to sustain this commitment, we have over the

past number of years used increasing amount of our discretionary funding to support financial aid. our financial aid costs, for example, have increased 90% since 2007. >> wow. >> and we would like to make sure that this is a permanent commitment because it is one of the most important values we have, this value of accessibility and affordability. and ken griffin's wonderful gift to endow financial aid will make this a permanent reality for students today and students tomorrow and students into the future. >> this gives actually a great opportunity to talk about something that i think we can all say we do not talk about enough on our -- in the news, on our show included. the truly insane price of a college education today. all in, i think it costs something close to $60,000 a year to go to harvard. i want to get your take. and i know it's not easy -- an easy question to answer or it would have been done. but president faust why is the

cost of a higher education so high and what can you do as a university, one of the premier universities in our country, to stop that and change it? >> well, what we have done is to really transform the cost of higher education for students coming to harvard. 60% of our students are on financial aid and for those students, the average amount they pay is $12,000. that's a pretty great bargain. if you consider what is available for students at harvard and how many lives have been transformed by the opportunity to have a higher education. >> might not be the case, though, for students -- for universities across the country. >> i think we get an important insight into how we should think about college costs. that said, overall, colleges are very aware of increasing costs, which comes in considerable part from the cost of talent of the importance of individuals in teaching and advising and making

students' lives all they can be. and so that is a costly element of what goes into how we deliver an education and, therefore, what it costs to us, even though that cost is not transmitted to our students in full form. >> i know it's no surprise the average student leaves college with an average of $29,000 in debt. that's not something anyone should accept. but until that can be changed, we can all at least smile and say thank goodness for gifts like that of ken griffin to help and change the lives of some students who wouldn't otherwise be able to go to college. president faust, great to meet you and congratulations. >> thank you. thank you. >> of course. chris? >> good, anything that helps keep those college costs down. coming up on "new day," look at that. jamie anderson doing the u.s. proud in the woman's first slopestyle competition. look who it is. she's here. gold medal, with the board. what's better than this? applause all around.

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>> here it is. >> so cool. >> so the sports signature event now at the biggest occasion, the olympics. and you win. did you even imagine that coming in? >> i mean, of -- i did visualize and see myself winning, which was the goal. it was a challenge. it was insane. the olympics is the biggest stage in the world. it was just such an unbelievable experience. >> i have to tell you, it's one thing and amazing to watch happen on tv as i watched it when you won. but when i meet you in person, i mean, i'm a small person. you are smaller than me and you get crazy air. how do you do it? >> strong. >> seriously. >> lots of yoga. >> look at this. >> that's what yoga does. >> this board is almost bigger than you. you said you use a bigger board than this. >> that is a giant -- that's pretty big. i always thought snowboards were -- >> what makes you great in a sport like this?

obviously, it's not just physicality. of course you are a great athlete. what separates those who wind up excelling from people who just don't get to the podium? >> i think passion. finding something that you truly love and you're passionate about and working hard towards achieving your goals and being your greatest. >> we want to ask you about something related to your big win. it was really cool. you shared a letter you received from probably your biggest fan. and she essentially in the letter just said how great you are and how proud she was of you and she wanted to be like you. you replied to her on twitter and said the most precious letter from a little girl. we've got a little surprise for you, jamie anderson. leann is hopefully joining us by skype. we wanted to make sure she could talk to you in person. >> do you hear us? >> yes. >> well, jamie is sitting right here. say hi. >> hi, jamie. >> oh, my gosh. >> hi, leann.

how are you, little love? >> good. how are you? >> good. thank you for the lucky penny. >> you're welcome. >> what was it like when you got to see jamie do what she does best and win and she, obviously, loved your letter and it probably helped her. >> congratulations for winning the gold medal, jamie. >> see, she takes none of the glory there herself. >> that is so sweet. >> thank you so much. it's great to meet you. >> the most amazing part of the letter was a star in between every word. like just so much love and already passion. >> you are inspiring them all over the past. >> she made my day and so did

you. congratulations. >> thanks for having me. >> it's been a wild ride and probably will continue to be. >> it's been great, every moment of it. >> you may have another moment tonight. we hear that justin timberlake wants to invite you to his show at madison square garden tonight to congratulate you in person. >> yep. >> just saying. >> as long as you have your suit and tie -- >> congratulations. dance your way to the podium. now you can dance anywhere you want, whenever you want. >> we're going to take a break here on "new day." ♪ [ chicken caws ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum tums!

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