out there, i'm living for me. >> joao stay seyou stay sexy, o. we wish you the best, sexy crabtree. that does it for us. thanks for watching. "piers morgan live" starts now. this is "piers morgan live" tonight. chris christie's first town hall since bridgegate. the biggest question wasn't about the scandal. it came from one of his youngest constituents. >> do you have a question for m me? >> my house is still broken. >> okay. come here, nicole. >> well, nicole and her mother and grandmother are live with me here tonight. plus it's a dirty job but someone's got to do it. >> because work is a beautiful thing. >> over 10 million americans are out of work. mike rowe of "dirty jobs" fame just might have the answer or does he? i'll ask him why the ad for walmart has people asking is he

a savior or sellout. why one washington big wig calls president obama the most naive president in history. john mccain is fired up. in a moment he'll tell me why. and the surprise blockbuster number one at the box office. >> good evening, apartment. good morning, doorway. good morning, wall, good morning, ceiling. good morning, floor. ready to start the day. here it is. instructions to fit in, have everybody like you and always be happy. step one. breathe. >> why the movie has made more than 200 million around the world is not just kid stuff. we begin with a bit of kid stuff with our big story. a little lady who got the undivided attention of the governor of new jersey today in chris christie's first town hall since last summer. he took this question. listen. >> come on over. all right. come here. so what's your name? >> nicole. >> okay. nicole, how old are you?

three. excellent. do you have a question for me? >> may you fix my house? it's still broken. >> your house is still broken? come here, nicole. what town do you live in? do you know? >> new jersey. >> all right. now come here. come here. now, is this your mom over here? where's your mom? right there. okay. okay. so here's what we're going to do. we're going to try to see if we can help you get your home fixed, okay? all right. so we'll get someone to talk to your mom after it's over. you keep an eye on her for me, okay? don't let her leave. and we'll get someone to talk and see if we can get your house fixed, okay? >> with me now is the star of that moment, nicole mariano, three years old. her mother kelly breyer and her grandmother joyce breyer. welcome to all of you. nicole, you're famous. everyone's talking about you. is that exciting? now here's what i want to ask

you. how did your house get broke n?n >> by the storm. >> by the storm. was it quite scary? >> i don't know. >> all your toys got ruined, didn't they? they all had to be taken away. all your toys went. >> we can get new from a toy store. >> have you been to the toy store? have you got new ones? >> yeah. but we need more toys [ laughter ] >> you know what, i think your mom may get you some for making everyone famous in your family. let me turn to you, kelly, if i may. an amazingly moving moment. what i liked about it, while all the politicians go on about bridgegate and that kind of thing, it was a real moment of a real family, and actually through the mouths of a little 3-year-old a really compelling story, which is your house got devastated by hurricane sandy. here we are 50 months later and it still hasn't been fixed. tell me quickly what happened to your property? >> we received about four feet of water that came through the first floor of the house.

it destroyed everything. so we had substantial damage. i was approved for rent. >> i think someone's trying to direct all this. you keep going, nicole. i like it. >> we were approved in the first round of approvals. our house is still unchanged from november of 200012. exactly the same. >> are you angry that nothing more has been done in this time period? >> it's incredibly frustrating. the process is definitely flawed and it's broken. and there's a lot of finger pointing as to who's responsible for it. but the reality they're all responsible for it. >> now nicole, do you think that the governor? did you like him? did you like the governor? is he a nice man? yes? do you think he's going to fix your house? you believe him? let me turn to your grandmother joyce. she's a fantastic character. i mean, just by here. has everybody laughing their heads off. she did skewer the governor a bit, put him on the spot. he seemed to say look i'm going to help you. do you think he will? >> i do.

how could you look at that face and not do something? and she believes it. she's a fan of his. she sees him on television. >> are you as a family fans of the governor? he was hugely popular, then came this big scandal. his popularity's taken a big dent. do you still have confidence in him? >> i think that we watch him a lot. she knows we watch him a lot. because he's the person who's helping orchestrate the programs. we've watched him. he seems to have a no nonsense manner about him. i liked that a lot. i would be really upset if we find out that's not really who he is. >> if it seemed to me like it was chris christie doing what he really wants to do today, he loves to fix things. and i think whatever the outcome of the bridgegate scandal, we don't know all the answers yet. but it was good to see him actually getting back to i guess what a governor should be doing, which is helping his constituents or at least trying to. nicole, do you like being on tv? >> yeah. >> is it fun? >> mm-hmm.

[ laughter ] >> well, i think you should come back, nicole, if your house gets fixed. will you do that for me? >> when your house gets fixed. >> yes. >> and if you do, i may have some toys for you. >> nice. >> you may even get the governor back on with you. maybe the governor should give you some new toys. would you like that? >> and some fast toys. >> so governor if you're watching, i'm sure you are, no pressure but nicole would like some new bath toys when you've fixed their house. and you did promise. and i wouldn't for one go back on a promise to young nicole. it's been lovely to meet you. >> say thank you. >> thank you. >> nice to meet you both. i hope that you get what the governor promised, which is some action on your property. it's pretty awful it's not been fixed after 15 months. i hope we can also be part of that process getting you some proper renovation done quickly. thank you so much for bringing her in she's adorable. nicole? you can hang around for a bit. don't worry. >> thanks. now to a man who's taken a

lot of heat for trying to create jobs in the country. mike rowe is the popular host of "dirty jobs" on the discovery channel. he's teameded up with walmart for ads to bring jobs back to america. take a look. >> at one time i made things. i opened my doors to all. and together we filled pallets and trucks. i was mighty. and then one day the gears stopped turning. but i'm still here. and i believe i will rise again. >> mike rowe is also the founder of mikerowworks foundation. he's with me in the chair tonight. you've been through the wringer in the last few days, mike are. you surprised by the reaction since this walmart ad went out in the sochi olympics coverage? have you been taken aback by the scale of venom that's come your way? >> you know, mostly it's been supportive.

obviously there's some criticism. but from my own perspective it's mostly been weird. i'm watching the olympics. i go on facebook after the commercial airs. the comments are great. some are not so great. and i responded to them. i posted it. i went to bed. i woke up. 3 million people were talking about it. two days later 7 million people were talking about it. obviously walmart is important. the topic's important. people have strong opinions. and look, i guess i asked for it. so it's okay. >> the argument is this. that walmart is incredibly successful, one of america's great companies. 140 million americans pour through its doors every single week of the year. but of course, many of those same people also have resentment towards walmart because they know local stores and maybe family members and friends who worked in local stores who all got swallowed up and chewed up and spat out by the walmart machine. they also have people who work at walmart, employees at any

given time over 1 million people, many of whom complain about low wages and bad treatment and so on. as a company of that size is bound to attract that kind criticism. how much of that criticism if you're wearing your mike rowe man of the people hat is valid? >> i've only got the one hat. so for what it's worth, i would say all criticism is valid. in fact, i would assume for the purposes of the conversation that every critical thing that was ever said about this company is true. i don't know fit is or not. i'm not their representative. but let's assume for a minute it is. they're putting a quarter of a trillion dollars into the u.s. economy over the next ten years. $250 billion of u.s. goods, the stimulation that's going to occur with suppliers i think is pretty cool. and so my point of doing the commercial, and my point in engaging on facebook was to simply say, look, i get it. people have strong opinions.

but do you or don't you want to see them succeed in this endeavor? i do. >> one of my big bugs over the last couple of years on the show has been the fact that companies like apple, for example, a big example, have got 90% of their workforce in china and other countries, not in america. >> sure. >> i don't see how that helps the american national interest even though they're making hundreds of millions and billions of dollars of profit. you could argue that walmart also has driven a lot of manufacturing out of america. they import a lot of stuff. that has damaged the american manufacturing industry. i guess that's why you've become this talisman for criticism. because you're the man of the people, apparently endorsing this conglomerate beast. >> sure. spin it that way. it's possible. and at a glance it's not wrong but it's not true, either. people find what they look for. you can look at "dirty jobs" and see a tribute to hard work and skilled labor. you can also look at "dirty jobs" and see a tribute to entrepreneurship and risk. it was both of those things.

now, it's true, i'm a fan of both of those things. it's also true that right now today the country is engaged in this big dialogue where in employees and employers are pitted against each other. i just don't think it's productive. i appreciate it. but i'm more interested in looking at this, and to your point saying, okay, what happens if apple follows suit? what if home depot follows suit or lowe's or best buy or costco or target? if suddenly the people on the fortune 500 step back and go, you know what, we have the funds to mitigate some of the risk in the supply line, guarantee contracts further down the road. that's going to open factories. i think that's good. later, when jobs come back, we can have this conversation about the difference between a good job and a bad job. that's what the country is fixated on right now. i'm afraid it's a sucker's bet. i think there's a bigger conversation to have. people don't want to have it because you go on social media, you're liable to be called some

nasty names. >> well, you mentioned social media. of course there's the great irony. this huge argument raging about you, who is trying as you say to bring back manufacturing jobs to america. and here you have a social app called whatsapp messaging service just been sold for 19 billion u.s. dollars. and it barely employs anybody. >> yeah. >> and seems to be completely mad. however, the economists say it makes sense. let's take a break. i want to get a verdict on whatsapp, what it means for american manufacturing, and also about the minimum wage argument. because again, the common man and woman in the streets of america will say -- half of them will say it's a good idea, half of them will say it's a bad idea to raise it. >> and the other half, who knows what they'll say. ♪ [ male announcer ] even more impressive than the research this man has at his disposal is how he puts it to work for his clients. morning. morning.

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what i'm really focused on right now is partnering around initiatives like the one we were talking about before. i want to talk about manufacturing. i want to talk about skilled labor. i want to talk about the idea that employers and employees aren't enemies of each other. and that we've all got skin in the game. so that's the campaign i'm looking for. >> mike rowe yesterday on glenn beck's "the blaze "mike is back with me now in the chair. whenever i've heard your voice, i've always thought one of two things. this guy should either be a

movie announcer or he should be an opera singer. and i'm told that the second one is actually true. you do sing opera. >> well, that's how i got into the business, yeah, years ago in baltimore. i couldn't get into any of the unions that oversee our industry. and the way in for me was joining something called -- base you cannily basically get into the opera. if i could fake my way to the opera i could become part of the club and work my way into the industry. >> do you still sing opera? >> weddings, funerals. >> can you give us a little burst? >> a burst? >> yes. ♪ >> or -- >> ♪ you load 16 tons what do you get another day older ♪ >> anybody can sing opera. get in the shower, turn the heat up. >> just for my benefit, can you do the "jaws" one so it's safe to go back into the water? >> just when you thought it was safe to go back on piers's show,

the questions began again. it will scare the crap out of you. >> so you will never be out of work now. i've got you two whole different j different genres of work. you've just finished with ford? >> finished with ford, "dirty job is". >> are you unemployed right now? >> for the first time in my adult life. >> how does that feel? >> it's odd. seriously it forces you to step back and go, okay, i've been really really lucky. i know that. what kind of relationships do you want? who do you want to work with? and ultimately what message do you want to help deliver? it's tricky because you're going to break a few eggs for sure. but that's what brought me here tonight. i mean, honestly. i saw the promos during the day. i get it. it's fun to have some conflict. but i'm not here at walmart's representative. i'm here because i've spent ten years crawling through sewers, talking with people and

employers who really care about the country. i just kind of feel like there's a chance to move the needle and stimulate things in a different kind of way. so look, what do i know? but i think it's a conversation worth having. >> when you saw the whatsapp sale for $19 billion, and i actually use whatsapp occasionally. it's a straightforward messaging system. i couldn't believe the valuation. but apparently it makes sense in that world. >> did you just say bm? >> bbm, the blackberry mess eng er. >> right. >> do you know what that is? >> no. >> it's the mess enger service on the blackberry. >> i've been on facebook about six, seven months. i'm figuring it out. >> do you understand how a company can be value like that when it only ploys under 100 people? >> i think i do. i mean, in a market economy, a thing is worth what a person is willing to pay for it. >> simple as that. >> yeah. yeah. soap, cars, a big company, a

job. right? i mean, we take our cues from the market. and then we either let it alone or we touch it and massage it and try to make it different. i'm certainly not an expert. but yeah, i think that's how it works. >> what is your view of the whole minimum wage debate? the reason i say that now, gap has just announced they're going to increase their minimum hourly rate to $9 in 2014, 910 in 2015. president obama applauded gap. the decision would benefit 65 million workers in the u.s. two arguments about the minimum wage. walmart indicated they may follow as well. their argument is look if we do it it may benefit a large number of people who come through our stores. that's one argument. the other argument it costs jobs. if you price up too much minimum wage you deter smaller employers from employing people. where do you sit on this debate? >> i mean, i would say there's a third observation, too, it's

either a willing thing that you do because you believe it's good business or because you're just an altruistic soul, or it's something that you're compelled to do. we're really talking about it because this is not being presented in the -- maybe we'll do it maybe we won't thing. you're talking about legislation. way beyond my pay grade. i've read people who have said that forcing a control on a price like that in a market economy is counter intuitive, will ultimately lead to unintended consequences. i don't know. if i ran a big giant company i'd probably pull my hair out trying to figure it out. i don't. i have four employees at any given time, 25% of them are upset with me about something. so for a big company? i can't even imagine. >> it's interesting to talk to you when as you say you're currently out of work for the first time that you can remember. the american dream that i guess helped you become the man you are and the success that you've been, is that dream still obtainable in the same way or has it changed?

>> oh, man, i think so. look, i'm a bit of a smartal ak in real life. for me i'm hopeful. my hope is based on my last ten years. the people i met on that show, we shot in every state. we did 300 different jobs. these people don't talk about good jobs versus bad jobs. everything on "dirty jobs" was opportunity. and i'll tell you, too. for the whole run, even at the height of the recession, every single place i visited, every single one had help wanted signs up. i talked to all the employers and i heard the same message over and over. the thing that's for sale is the willingness to learn a truly useful skill and work your butt off. it's still for sale. >> what is the one job you will least regret not having to do again? >> least regret not having to do. >> what was the single worse thing you ever did in the whole run of that series? >> there's a thing called a lift pump in a wastewater treatment plant. it weighs four tons. it's a pump at the bottom of a

five-story silo. the pump breaks, the silo fills with the stuff that was in your toilet. when that happens men descend a spiral staircase, muscle their way through water tight doors and swim to the ruptured device whereupon they crawl upon it and somebody drops a cable from the top, you cinch it up, the whole thing goes up in the air. the sound that a broken lift pump makes when it breaks the seal of crap that was holding it to your floor will haunt your dreams. >> almost like hosting this show. >> have you ever sat in this share? because i think my lift pump just tore loose [ laughter ] >> i could talk to you -- come back soon. i'd love to talk to you more about this. >> what happens if i just stay here? >> stay here. we're going to interview john mccain. why don't you stay and react to what he has to say? >> fantastic. >> great idea. then we'll talk to the guy whose made the "lego" movie. stick around for another segment.

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new details tonight about warnings of a shoe bomb terror threat, fears an al qaeda may be behind it. we're here to talk about that with senator john mccain. senator, let's talk about this terror threat and the apparent possible link to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. what do you know about this? and how serious do you think it i

is? >> i think any threat of course is serious. this is exacerbated by the fact that we are seeing the spread of al qaeda or al qaeda quote affiliated organizations. they have one thing in common, they want to attack and destroy the united states of america. so these attacks, these threats we must treat as credible threats. whether they're actually credible or not is something that we're not exactly sure of. but i have no doubt that with the spread of al qaeda throughout the middle east and north africa, and other places in africa that these threats will not diminish. >> i want to turn to this tragedy unfurling in the united kingdom -- in the ukraine. i want to show you what president obama said about this. >> our approach in the united states is not to see these as some cold war chess board in which we're in competition with russia, our goal is to make sure

that the people of ukraine are able to make decisions for themselves about their future. >> over 100 people have now died, terrible scenes there that we're seeing all day long on our television screens. what is the solution here, senator, do you think, to what is clearly a massive problem that's finally erupted in the way that we've seen? >> serious sanctions. but let me just say that the president just displayed his incredible naivete. tell vladimir after i'm re-elected he'll be more flexible? the president doesn't think it's a chess game. certainly vladimir putin does. putin wants a restoration of the russian empire, of which the ukraine is the crown jewel. and i'm very worried about what actions after the olympics that putin may take in order to ensure that. remember, russia is still occupying two parts of the territory of georgia. and for to us not understand

that putin will do what he thinks almost -- unless he's restrained and constrained -- he will do what's necessary to keep ukraine the crown jewel of the russian empire in the russian orbit despite the fact that overwhelming majority of ukrainians want to be part of europe. and that's what this is all about. and again, this violence is escalating to a dramatic degree. and what worries me is russian intervention and possible losing parts of the ukraine especially krimea as well as eastern parts of the ukraine. >> we've got footage of you when you went to the ukraine. what kind of country is it and what are the people like there? >> beautiful country beautiful people. very sophisticated. they listen to european music. their culture, their food, everything about them aligns particularly the young people to

europe. they will not be satisfied one to be part of the russian empire. but two, the corruption is horrendous. the son of yanukovych, the president, is a dentist and he's a billionaire. and these owe oligarchs that run the country have run it into the ground. there are dire economic situations. and the european e.u. has not done a good job. they've kind of -- they've been very -- not very well handled this situation. but they're going to need help from the imf, help from the e.u., and certainly support from the united states of america before the ukrainian people can enjoy a better life. and sanctions are a threat that must be employed. >> turning to syria, we've obviously got kiev in flames, venezuela in flames, lots of situations erupting around the world. syria remains a hugely difficult problem. any improvement there or is the

situation worsening? >> it's worsening. our director of national intelligence testified that al assad has gotten stronger while we've gone through this charade of the geneva meeting. it was so outrageous and such a farce to think they cowl go to geneva and convince bashar assad to leave government to transition from being the head of syria when he's winning. when he's winning on the battlefield. and that was a terrible joke. meanwhile, piers, in all due respect, these barrel bombs, these explosive, fuel-filled, shrapnel-filled bombs are being dropped, slaughtering innocent people by bashar assad. while bashar assad slow walks the removal of the chemical weapons. he's played us for fools. and meanwhile the russians, our buddy vladimir and sergey as we call them are flying in plane loads of russian weapons which are killing people. and by the way, if you haven't seen on my web site and on

twitter the pictures that came out of syria that are documented to be accurate, the horrific pictures of these people who were slaughtered by bashar assad, and this president does not do anything of any effect. and it's shameful. >> i want to move what has been a big contentious story this week, which is ted nugent who normally wouldn't i guess be that relevant politically but has made himself relevant by attaching himself to a political situation. when he called president obama -- you've had your issues with the president himself -- when he called him a sub human mongrel, what was your reaction to that? >> it's a free country, but that kind of language really doesn't have any place in out political dialogue. it harms the republican party. i'm sure that it harmed that candidate there. and it should be obviously repudiated. from time to time as you know,

particularly in these days of twitter and facebook and the cloak of anonymity of twitter, we see things that are really totally objectionable and makes you sad, actually, to see. so that kind of thing is beyond the pale. and i hope that our candidate down there learned a lesson. >> well, he's greg abbott, the texas gubernatorial nominee. should he now distance himself completely from ted nugent because of these comments? >> well, if i were him because those comments i would. but because i don't think the people of texas -- look, i am a severe critic of president obama particularly on national security. but that kind of language -- he's the president of the united states. he's been elected and re-elected. i believe we should treat him respectfully. >> two final points, senator, about the 2016 presidential race. michele bachmann in a new interview said she this many

americans aren't ready for a female president. she actually said directly, i think there was a cachet about having an african-american president because of gift people don't hold that guilt for a woman. what do you make of those comments? >> it's a free country. i would bet, my friend, as much as i hate to admit it that right now this is why we have campaigns, but right now if the election were tomorrow hillary clinton would most likely be the president of the united states. she wouldn't be my candidate. but when you look at the growth of women in the senate, and i believe now 20 up from just a handful a few years ago, when you look at them in the house of representatives, look at the th proud we're had governors in arizona, two in a row. we have a long history of women governors. so i just have a very different reading of the american

political scene. >> when it comes to the potential male republican candidates, two names are always in the. chris christie, ted cruz. i want to play you a clip of ted cruz talking to cnn's dana bash earlier today. >> what i try to keep an eye on is that i don't work for the party bosses in washington. i work for 26 million texans. >> as a human being, you are a human being. does it sting? >> as a human being, i can't control what they say, how they behave. i can control what i do. >> you've got ted cruz continuing to be this kind of outsider, ex-washington renegade, doesn't want to be part of that system. can that be effective do you think? can he win a nomination by playing that card? >> you know, i don't know. i have a cordial relationship with ted cruz. i disgreed with him vehemently when we shut down the government. what he did on the debt limit

increase he was exercising his rights as a senator which he had the right to do to demand 60 votes. i'll let the republican party judge. but he has become an effective force in the republican political scene. i respect that. as i say, i disagree with him. but i want to have this debate within my party. but i hope it would be respectful. >> is chris christie still a potential serious candidate despite everything that's happened? >> i believe. so and i think he deserves the innocence until proven guilty. i went through a very serious scandal back earlier in my career, which i wouldn't like to revisit with you. so i think that he certainly has plenty of time to recover from this. i believe he's been a very good governor of a democrat state, showed by his overwhelming re-election. so i'm hoping he'll continue to

improve and regain his status. he's gone through a rough patch. we all know that. i happen to think that he's done a good job as governor. but you never know. and one of these things where another shoe is going to drop. >> senator mccain, always good to talk to you. thank you very much indeed for your time. >> thank you, piers. >> senator mccain there. i'm still here with mike rowe because he wanted to stay so i said yeah, you can stay. so mike your reaction to what john mccain was talking about. also your reaction to this tweet i just got to you and me. directed at me. i have blood, i have sweat and i've cried taking care of my family. . has piers morgan? we'll find out after the break. no matter how busy your morning you can always do something better for yourself. and better is so easy with benefiber. fiber that's taste-free, grit-free and dissolves completely. so you can feel free to add it to anything. and feel better about doing it. better it with benefiber. you get 4 lines on at&t's network... including unlimited talk...

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mike rowe is still with me. i want to talk to him about what senator mccain was just talking about on a more general basis. about america's place in the world now. seems to change very dramatically even in the last few years from automatically having to be the world's policeman to a lot of americans now saying, well, no, we've got enough problems here. we don't want to be the global police anymore. by the way, the chinese can step up or the indians or whoever it may be. shouldn't always be us. >> right. i think a lot of assumptions that people are look at again. one of them i heard somebody say the other day with respect to policing the world, we're not really as capable of doing that

as we used to be if we are were. i said the same is true with skilled labor. we have assumption right now in the country if we simply create the jobs then they'll be filled immediately. but the truth is, there's a real -- there's a dead zone. and look, there are 3 or 400,000 jobs in manufacturing right now that can't be filled. and so our relationship with work, our relationship with the world, our relationship with ourselves, it does feel a little bit like an identity crisis. >> i have this guy daniel frueck who tweeted me and you, i've bled, sweat, cried taking care of my family. has piers morgan. of course i produce blood. i produce sweat. and like everybody, there have been moments when you would shed a tear for your family taking care of them. it's a strange attitude to have some people have. unless you're like him you haven't ever done a day's work

in your life. if you're not daniel frueck. what are you, anyway? >> right now he's sitting at home having a parade for himself. >> i'm reading his tweet. >> the senator said it well. this thing, right? it's not just the device. you're a broadcaster if you have this. you're your own network. and under the shade of anonymity you can curl yourself up on your barca lounger, enjoy whatever your drink of choice is, and literally just fire away. and here we are, actually on the television, checking our things to see -- it boggles the mind. >> and more importantly, have you ever used lego to build things? >> most of my childhood was defined by a mix of lego and lincoln logs. very frustrating period when i tried to combine the two. nothing fit. and the world was upside down for me. but the short answer is sure, i love lego. >> the lego movie has been an

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>> christopher miller and phil

lloyd, writers and directors of the lego movie. gentlemen, a couple of extraordinary pieces of information. one is that lego comes from a danish phrase leg got, which means play well, which i never knew. and the other is since lego began manufacturing these little bricks, there have been 560 billion lego parts made. did you guys know that? >> i knew the first one. >> the second one is news to us. >> tell me, let me start with you, christopher. tell me this, when you devised a concept for lego, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine it would be this popular? and what do you think has been the reason? >> that's a good question. i don't know that we ever thought it was going to be this crazy popular, but we thought it could be kind of fun. we try to approach it the same

way we approach all of our movies whether we're doing an r-rated movie or a family movie, we just try to make each other laugh and do the things we think are fun and interesting. we don't try to talk down to kids or to make it for this focus group or another. we make it for another and it just so happens our sense of humor is so juvenile, kids like it, too. >> phil, from a technical point of view, how difficult was it to create animated lego? >> well, it took hundreds of people like four years to make it. so it was insanely difficult. we had a lot of really smart people to help out. animal logic in sidney. we worked with the lego people in denmark. we had our crew here in los angeles. it was really complicated. the biggest trick was trying to digitally figure out how to make

tactile, homemade lego bricks with scratches and fingerprints and stuff like that. we wanted it to feel like a movie a kid made in his basement. a really expensive basement. >> let's watch another krip. >> i watch a lot of cop shows on tv. isn't there supposed to also be -- isn't there supposed to be a good cop? >> oh, yes. but we're not done yet. >> hi, buddy. i'm your friendy neighbor police officer. >> would you like a glass of water? >> yes. >> too bad. >> it's fantastic fun. it brings in all sorts of life issues, work issues. what i like about you two is you met in college, dartmouth. you've directed some of the biggest movies, "meatballs," all sorts of stuff you've done. "jump street" is coming out

again and you've done these two together. is that hard? normally it's like one director, right? >> we never fight. >> never have a disagreement. >> can't be true. >> we're like brothers. so we bicker and stuff. but we have very similar point of view of things, a similar sense of humor. we have a lot in common and we have a lot of respect for each other. >> most of the time. >> we try not to approach actors and say, do it sad, and the other say, you do the opposite. >> you have some amazing voices on the movie, will farrell, elizabeth banks, shaquille o'neal. who was the biggest diva of all those? >> christopher miller was a huge diva. >> everyone came to have a good time, and so everyone was having

a lot of fun with it. >> i can't believe we got a check to say all that stuff. >> finally, we got the oscars next week. i'm doing the red carpet for cnn on sunday, march 2. is it going to win best movie, do you think? >> oh, gosh. that's really hard to say. i really loved "american hustle." i think "12 years a slave" has a really great chance. >> sorry, christopher, out to you. >> i was going to say i liked "her" as well, but it's probably "12 years a slave." >> it's good to go on the record for something like this. >> if you're right, we'll play the clip back and congratulate you. congratulations, seriously, on the lego movie.

it's fantastic. appreciate you joining me from l.a. what has been the best movie you've seen recently? >> we were talking about "the wolf of wall street." great family comedy. but the thing is, it's the shortest three-hour movie i watched. i could not believe -- >> that is so true. >> and really the performances, everybody, dicaprio. >> him and matthew mcconaughey are on everything i liked. >> it's just not fair. >> look, it's good to talk to you guys. "the lego movie" is in theaters. mike, i hope you get gainful employment soon. tomorrow night, we'll reair my interview with jordan belfour. we'll be right back after this break. [ children yelling ]

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