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hello, everyone. i'm don lemon and top of the hour. you are in the "cnn newsroom" and one week ago tonight on the show, there was a lot of outrage and debate over the michael dunn verdicts in the death of jordan davis, and now a prank posted on youtube has expose d the uglines of race relations in the country again. specifically how black men and white men raise suspicion in certain situations or not raise suspicion in certain situations. many say it is 2014, and we have elected a black president twice, so things must be better, right? i want to have you check out this prank posted on simple misfits. >> now we want the show you the difference of the i try to break into a car, and he tries to break into a car. let's find out. [ car horn honking ]
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♪ ♪ >> all right. apparently, nobody cares. i have been here for 30 minutes, and there was a cop here at one point, and he didn't try to stop me. now, let's see what happens when quinton tries to give it a try. [ car horn honking ] >> hey, that is my car.
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put your hands on the hood. is this your car? >> all right. so let me just point out that quinton was not arrested, and perhaps it is because his friends with were there to, you know, vouch for him, but he was cuffed for about 40 minutes, and the police ran a background che check, and it took a while, and the guys were able to prove to the cops that it was just a prank, and that they owned the car. so the guys that you saw on the video, jason roberts and quinton byrd are we me now, and it is a great experiment. it is funny and i was watching it on the way to work and i said, it will not take me long, because it takes 30 seconds to get to the train and between my house and the train, you were arrested. and the prank was your idea and you called it a social experiment and why did you want to do it? >> well, first of all, i want to point out that i am a prankster,
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and i make viral videos for the channel simple misfits and did i expeck it to blow up this much, no, not in a million years and the reason as to why this, why i did this social experiment in the first place is that it stemmed from the live situation, and what happened is that i locked my keys in the car and i had to call aaa. aaa came, and was wearing the aaa jacket and he is obviously a professional and breaking into the car and when i started noticing is that everyone around me was giving us dirty looks and we were breaking into a round of a person's car and then it hit me that the aaa worker happened to be a black guy, and after that, i just happened to i have to recreate the scenario of one-time occurrence or everyday thing. >> a lot of times people don't know that it denies to be with it unless they are with a
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husband or wife or partner or lover, and for you it is witnessing it. for you it is witnessing the reaction to this aaa person, and quinton, it took two minutes for the police to respond to you, and you were giving side eye. we could see five officers in the video, but there were seven or eight officers who were responding and you were cuffed for 40 minutes, and then you ran a background check, and is that the reaction that you thought that you would get, and by the way, a cop car jason that drove by, and never even stopped, and so go ahead. >> yeah, he did not turn my direction. >> did you think that you would get this reaction, quinton? >> we didn't think that it would be that extreme, but we thought a couple of looks from the crowd who was passing by, and nothing as extreme as ten cops pulling up, and there is five cop cars and they come with the guns already out of the holsters and already ready and aiming and it was extreme. we did not anticipate this at
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all. it was good. you can't pay for that type of incidents to happen. >> yes, i remember watching a similar one not long ago and i don't know if you have ever seen it on the program "what would you do" when they leave the bicycle, and have you seen it? >> no, vint. >> well, they leave a bicycle in the park, and they get a white girl to go get the bicycle and everybody is trying to help her, and then a white guy and very few people are suspicious and then the black guy and it is like the first person is like, what are you doing with that bicycle, and it is interesting the responses and the reactions that we subconsciously have that we don't realize that we are having. i want the show you some of the comments posted on youtube. on youtube page, and to be fair, the white kid is about 100 pounds and fitted clothing and the juvenile look, and the black dude is a grown man and 150 pounds heavier and baggy clothes and some people can find this
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threatening, although, there is an air of racism, i would like to see a similar scruffy white guy wearing the same clothes doing the same thing. quinton, what do you make of that? >> well, i think that the point is valid with the same clothes, i guess, and you could make that point. but also, why would i have to change my clothes or who i am just to please someone else or to fit into society? i don't think that you should have to do that and the guys all of the time wear, and if i were coming from the gym and i didn't have anything else to wear, that is what i would be wearing, but i get where he is coming from, but i think that it is also about the race. because he went 30 minutes and not a single call and nobody came up to him, and you only saw 2:00 of it, and not really 2:00 of my thing, but it with was more like 7:00 and we kept getting the looks from the moment that i started trying to get into the kcar. >> what do you make of the comments and you have similar
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ones like that, jason? >> oh, yes. >> well, i mean, when people ask, is it race-related, i don't honestly know, and maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but thererer with a lot of variables to consider and the location was different. the clothing was different, and the time of day was different and so honestly i don't know. >> yeah. what is your gut telling you? come on, you are not -- >> yeah, i mean, it is tough. it is tough to refute. >> and you just don't want to say it or otherwise you would not have done the experiment. >> yeah. >> good luck, guys. thank you. it was a prank, but in humor it is spoken in jest and we learn things in huemore as we do every night with the daily show and the colbert report, and a lot of truth comes out of that. thank you, guys. coming up here on cnn the jury of the michael dunn case
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could not decide if he was guilty of murdering jordan davis and some say the murder of loud music was all about race, but one juror sees it differently. >> i never once thought about, oh, this is a black kid, and this is a white guy. because this wasn't the case. >> an extrue collusive interview with juror 8 next. >> and then he is one of the most powerful drug lords on the list of forb"forbes" magazine m powerful people, and on the run, police have bust ed him again. helps reduce the risk of heart disease. it seems that 80 is the new 18. grannies, bless your heart, you are bringing sexy back! eat up. keep heart-healthy. live long. for a healthy heart, eat the 100% natural whole grain goodness of post shredded wheat.
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a prominent prisoner set free today says that ukraine is done with the dictator and the former prime minister and the bitter rival of the russian president. online child pornography website with thousands of users has been busted. many people have been bust around the country, including the alleged creator of the with website. this website taught people how to lure children, and what else did they find out? >> well, according to the court documents jonathan johnson was arrested and charged with running two child pornography sites in his home which is 45 minutes north of new orleans. these are the details, folks. we learned from the court documents there are two types of users of the web sites. members and uploaders. both could write comments, a they should share direct messaging, but they could also do this, uploaders could upload
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video and with that came tips on how to lure children and they pretty much said go to social media web sites, and make fake female profiles and entice the children to participate in these particular videos. now they also added one more thing, which was how to avoid law enforcement. rachel wolf a reporter at our affiliate wdsu spoke to the mother, and this is the reaction. >> we didn't know until ten days later that he told us. i am upset with him, and mad at him for doing it, too, but it is like, what is done is done, and there ain't nothing that you can do about it. >> and now court documents revealed the magnitude of the website and 20,000 members around the world, and 2,000 videos and 160 children identified and rescued, don, which is important to note. >> that is very important. >> there acan can you tell us h
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was busted? >> well, this project through the department of justice is an effort from the state, local and also federal authorities out looking for and prosecuting people who exploit children around the country. >> thank you. rosa flores, we appreciate your reporting. >> candid remarks from the michael dunn trial jury, and why a woman says that race placed no role in the decision. ♪ this magic moment it is the story of where every great idea begins. and of those who believed they had the power to do more. dell is honored to be part of some of the world's great stories. that began much the same way ours did. in a little dorm room -- 2713. ♪ this magic moment ♪
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one of the jurors in the murder trial of michael dunn is breaking her silence. the jury convicted dunn of three counts of second -degree murder for shooting into an suv carrying four black teenagers, but they could not agree on the murder charge stemming from the death of 17-year-old jordan davis. we sat down with the woman known as juror 8. >> i never once thought about this is a black kid and that is a white guy, because that is not the case. >> and so the people who say, here is another white guy who got away with shooting and killing a black kid, what would you tell them? >> i would tell them that they really should acknowledge themselves. >> reporter: she is setting the record straight.
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sg>> i wanted to bring justice whoever it was. >> reporter: the 21-year-old was juror 8 in the michael dunn m d murder trial, and she sat down exclusively with cnn and the case and the heated deliberations. what was it like inside of the deliberation room? >> it was wild. >> reporter: wild as? >> well, it was like shout iing and a lot of yelling. >> reporter: and miles shared her impressions about michael dunn and explained the partial verdict that the jury returned. what did kryou think of michael dunn? >> i honestly ti that he is a good guy. i think that he is a good guy, and i don't think that he hates everybody. i don't think that he walks around wanting to shoot everybody. i think that he made bad decisions. >> reporter: you still think that he is guilty of murder thoug though? >> yes. i really think that he is guilty of murder, but not the guilty as charged. >> reporter: first degree, you don't think that he is giuilty f the first degree? >> no, the second degree.
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>> reporter: and how was it for you the come back into the courtroom knowing that jordan davis' parents were there and that you could not agree on a charge related to his death? >> well, we were calm and cool, but when we were sent back, we said, oh, does that mean it throws to s out the whole case she going to retry him or satfied with what happened or do more, and is jordan ever going to get justice? we did not know. and walking back into there, and i got so nervous, because i am like, what do we -- what if we completely messed up. >> reporter: do you feel like you messed up or the jury messed up? >> no, i felt like we did what we were supposed to do. >> reporter: what would you tell jordan's family? >> i would tell them that from my end, i tried. i really did try. i tried to fight for their son, because his dad's face when we
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were on the stand. and i know it hurts, and it is like, oh, thinking that you got this wound healed and then somebody slice it all open again because they have to go through the process again. >> and salena machado reporting there. a prison warden has spent his life around pizsrisons andw he wants to help their kids. that is next. . honestly? i wanted a smartphone that shoots great video.
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unfortunately kids of prison inmates are dragged into a similar life, but a retired prison ward en is trying to brek the cycle. jean casarez has the amazing story of one young man who was given the second chance. >> do you remember when your father murdered jeffrey dahmer? >> yes, it was about, 10, i saw it on tv. that is how i found out. so, yeah. >> so you suddenly see your father? >> yes, it is a big picture done popped up. i was just shocked at that point. >> 58% of the kids in juvenile detention have a parent incarcerated. we are really tries to slow this down. >> reporter: as a retired federal prison wardden percy
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pitzer has spent his life around prisons, and fou he wants to help the children. >> it is a lot of pressure on the children. >> reporter: his goal is to help children get a college degree. one of the recipients is the son of a man who murdered the notorious serial killer jeffrey dahmer while in prison. >> reporter: do you remember the first time you heard the name jeffrey dahmer? >> i heard it a lot growing up. that is all i heard. when i was young, i didn't foe what it meant, but obviously, that name, and it is has been around me for my whole life. >> reporter: chris is a senior at bethanie lutheran college has lived with the secret his whole life, but he is ready to talk about it. he with was born just after his own father christopher scarver commited a murder to land him in jail with dahmer, and it was a
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cold blooded killing of a job trainer in milwaukee. sgli always thought that he would come home, and then after a while, i just said, you know, i don't know, it hit me that maybe it won't happen. then i got mad and that turned into anger. >> reporter: then his father committed another crime to ensure he would never come home. he bludgeoned jeffrey dahmer and another inmate to death in the prison gym. >> do you think about it, because there is a question of whether or not the guards may have set up your father? because he should have not been left alone with the other two men in priz sson? >> no well, i think about it all of the time. it makes me wonder if he even did it. >> reporter: chris understands however that his father pleaded no contest to the murders and he is serving three life terms in colorado, but chris says he also
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knows something else, his father saved his life from becoming one of those statistics. >> i was actually starting to go down the wrong road and i started to -- well, that is why i wrote him. i didn't know what to do, and i needed some guidance and i just told him everything that was going through and how i felt about me and his relationship and all of the built up years and the pain of it, and just finally let it go, and you know, talked to him. >> reporter: and his father wrote right back with advice. tough times don't last, tough people do. and you are the toughest kid i know. chris so credits his father to put him right on the right road, he keeps a prison photo of his dad on the door. >> i hit it just like to say, this is what you are doing this start. >> reporter: and as the star of his college basketball team, he is on track to graduate with a degree this next fall.
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jean casarez, cnn, new york. >> thank you. i'm don lemon and i will see you back here tomorrow night. a cnn spotlight "the george zimmerman interview" begins right now. the words "stand your ground" are well known, but they tr trigger different reactions in a nation divided about how we punish violent crime in america. tonight, you will hear from the man at the center of it all, george zimmerman and the prosecutor who tried him and now trying to get justice in the trial of michael dunn for the murder of jordan davis. we begin with george zimmerman, an evil man who knew he could get away from with murder or bailed out from a string of bad