head of the federal reserve, janet yellin addresses the senate banking committee here in washington. we'll be all over that. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." in the meantime, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right thousand. wolf blitzer, thank you, as always. great to be with you. i'm brooke baldwin. a lot of news to get to today. we want that start with this direct threat from president obama. every single american troop could be out of afghanistan by the end of this year. and today the president called hamid karzai and for the very first time, we're told, that the president is ordering plans for a complete withdrawal from the war zone. both sides are fighting over exactly how many troops will remain there, past this year. currently, there are more than 33,000 american troops in afghanistan. for more context, barbara starr joins me live from the pentagon. and barbara, this is a big deal.

the president obama calling karzai's bluff here? >> well, you know, you might wonder that. you might think that he's plague sort of a game, but let's remember, the president of the united states' statement about all of this, seen and heard by al qaeda, by the taliban, by the taliban over in pakistan, in that safe haven. it doesn't get more serious than this. what is going on is hamid karzai has made clear, publicly, he will not sign the essential security agreement that the u.s. needs to see in place to keep troops there after 2014. without that security agreement, without that legal framework, there is no choice. u.s. troops have to leave at the end of 2014. the president of the united states, out of patience with karzai today, after talking to him, seeing that he's not going to side, the white house was ready to go with a press conference, saying, okay, now the president is ordering the pentagon to plan for that zero option.

no security agreement, no legal framework. the u.s. has no choice but to pack and go. if, if there is a change in the plan, and that security agreement is signed, the u.s. might still keep several thousand troops there to help train and assist afghan forces. but, brooke, already, a senior pakistan official has said the zero option could lead to civil war in afghanistan. he predicts 30% of afghan forces will defect. this could be a very serious security situation. karzai dsn't look like he has any intention of signing this essential document. >> we will be debating the so-called zero option coming up a little later in the show. barbara starr, as always, thank you. >> fresh off his appearance on seth myers' debut as late-night host, the vice president, joe biden, sat down with the ladies of "the view," talking about the president's affordable care act, and he took full advantage of the largely female audience today, encouraging moms to talk

to their adult children about enrolling in obamacare. >> no matter how old we get, we still listen to our moms. i know that sounds corny, but it's true. and there's no influence on a son or a daughter, that's 28 or 29 years old, feeling physically invincible, why should i go out and pay, even if i can afford it, at $300 a month or $400 a month. why should i go get health insurance? i'm invincible? >> when asked about running for the white house come 2016, the vice president said hillary clinton will not affect his decision. spring is just two days away, but by the looks of these pictures, it doesn't feel like it. the snow is falling, the northeast and the nation's capital getting even more snowfall over the course of the next couple of days. we're told about 1 to 3 inches and that whole arctic plunge, that will stretch from the midwest to up and down the east coast. temperatures will drop 10 to 30 degrees below normal. right now, the u.s. is sending an elite team of marines

to beef up security at the embassy in ukraine's capital, kiev. this after last week's deadly anti-government protests, and what is now expected to be a turbulent transition to replace a disposed president, victor yed yedakovich, who is still on the run. in his place, heavyweight boxing champ, natli clichko. he has just announced he's tossing his hat in the ring to become the president of ukraine. and a veto is expected for the controversial religious freedom bill in arizona. but arizona governor jan brewer isn't quite saying that on the record yet. in a cnn exclusive, governor brewer says she won't go by instinct, but information when it comes to the senate bill 1062. >> and i don't rely a whole lot on my gut, because i have to look at what it says and what the law says and take that

information and do the right thing. but i can assure you, as always, i will do the right thing for the state of arizona. >> now, those who know the governor well, they say when she says doing the right thing, almost surely means a veto, and she has to decide by saturday morning. sb-1062 expands state definitions to have religious freedom, allowing not just people, but businesses and associations to deny services if providing them goes against their own religious beliefs. critics contend, that's really just a legal way to allow discrimination against the gay community. and while debating that point, one bill's supporter would not or could not explain how sb-1062 prevents discrimination from happening. he is state senator al melvin. he's actually candidate for governor, and he talked to anderson cooper. >> can a society exist where everybody gets to decide who they interact with and who they don't based solely on their

religious beliefs? and if for whatever reason, if somebody doesn't like somebody else else, under your law, they dona don't have to deal with that person. >> the bill is designed for religious freedom. no matter how you twist and try to turn it, that's what -- that is the bottom line here. >> you can't answer -- >> there is no belief perceived -- it was nobly voted on. and we hope the governor signs it into law. >> if somebody is fired because they're gay or lesbian in your state, is that discrimination? would you say that's discrimination? >> i -- i don't know of anybody that discriminates in our state -- >> okay, but i'm just saying, if somebody is fired, a boss doesn't like some guy on their staff or a woman on their staff because they're gay or lesbian and they're fired for that, which is legal, because there's no protection for sexual

orientation, is that discrimination? >> you know, you're trying to distort a religious freedom bill -- >> sir, you're running for governor of the state of arizona -- sir, you're running for governor of the state of arizona. >> yes, i am. >> you're going to be governor of gay and lesbian people, and you can't even go on the record and say, if a gay and lesbian person is fired simply for being gay or lesbian, that's for discrimination. you can't even make that leap and say, yeah, that would be discrimination. >> i don't know of any case like you just cited -- >> i want to give you one more opportunity, because i think this is going to come back on you. if somebody, anywhere in america, is fired because they're gay or lesbian, and that's the reason they're fired, because somebody doesn't like them, and it's legal in that state, is that discrimination? >> i'm against all discrimination and i want maximum religious freedom, sir. >> okay, you can't answer that question, then. i'm -- i gave you the opportunity. >> that's my answer to you. >> i hear you. >> i know you're trying to set me up.

and i'm not going to stand for it, sir. >> whoo, it appears the state senator is facing a growing opposition, because now a band of 80-some arizona companies just wrote a letter to governor brewer, calling for the end of 1062, and my next guest signed that very letter. he is glen hammer, president and ceo of the arizona chamber of commerce and industries. so, glen, welcome. >> thank you for being on -- giving me the chance to be on the show, brooke. >> you got it. >> glen, do me a favor, just begin, give me the top two reasons why you signed that letter. why you want governor brewer to veto this bill. >> arizona is a welcoming state, and there is no -- you just showed a clip. there is no problem that has been identified to us or to anyone in the state of a problem with respect to practicing one's religio religion in arizona. we're a welcoming state. we're a state that relies very

haefl on tourism. and we believe, virtually, now, every major business group in the state of arizona has come out in support of the governor vetoing 1062. >> i mean, the pressure is mounting from corporations, specifically, small, big, apple, marriott, but it's not just that, glen. >> oh, across the state. and i would mention, you had senator -- one state senator on, who's running for governor. five republican candidates for governor have come out against 1062 and have asked the governor to veto it. in fact, there was just a poll released yesterday, that among likely republican voters, two to one, they want governor brewer to vote 1062. >> and again -- >> so the momentum continues. >> the momentum continues, it is looking likely, from what we are getting from governor brewer's office, but she stopped short, thus far. the deadline for her is saturday. but in addition to the corporations, glen, you have the nfl. because, hello super bowl and phoenix, they say they're also

watching right where this bill goes and every part of the statement we got, our policies emphasize tolerance and exclusive sns and distribuprohis based on age, gender, race, religion, sexual orientation or any other improper standard. we will decline further comment at this time. here's my question for you, as we know your great state is supposed to be hosting the super bowl next year, you know the business community. if the super bowl pulled out of phoenix, how bad would that be for you? >> the super bowl is not going to pull out of phoenix. i'll make two predictions to you, brooke. the super bowl will be in phoenix. we'll have great weather. by the way, there's no polar vortex here today. and i'm also going to go out on a limb and say i believe the cardinals will play in that game. >> okay, cardinals and phoenix aside, though. let's say even now, let me take your prediction and say, all right, let's stay that this bill

dies. let's say that, you know, the super bowl is played, still, this has been bad pr for your state in the last couple of days. and it probably will be until saturday, if and when brewer vetoes this thing. what kind of damage is already done, glen? >> the important thing is for the governor to come to the right conclusion, and we strongly believe that's a veto. and then to explain it. i mean, given the amount of national and even international attention this bill has received, this is ant bill that you simply veto. it's going to require an explanation. >> what do you want to hear her say, glen? >> well, she's a very thoughtful person. and i believe -- you know, i have no idea what she would say, but i'm sure that she would mention things such as that arizona is a very welcoming state. that this is a state that where you could come from anywhere in the country, anywhere in the world, and really climb the ranks. i'm a guy from new york. i don't think if i grew up in

arizona, i would have had the chance to have, say, run the equivalent of the state chamber in new york. this is a merit-based society where a welcoming society or an inclusive society, and it's just very important for the governor to veto this bill, so we can get back to regular programming, talk about our great weather and our great climate for jobs. >> and sports, too, according to you, glen hammer, president and ceo of the arizona chamber of commerce and industry. glen, thank you very much. we'll be watching what happens in the next couple of days. >> thank you. meantime, coming up, this murder attempt at the second largest private residence in this whole country. find out what happened at this castle, a mecca for the rich and the famous. plus, we are finally hearing what president obama and john boehner discussed this morning during their first meeting in quite a while, and the list of topics, it's somewhat surprising. we have that for you. also, heading to disney world anytime soon?

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a murder attempt at the second largest private residence in america. take a look at these pictures with me. this is oheka castle. this is a mecca for new york's rich and famous and now it's a crime scene. as gary, this well-known man sat in the parking lot of his opulent home, he was shot in the head by a masked gunman. he stumbled into the house, his daughter rushed in to help him and get him to the hospital, and

incredibly he survived. joining me now, jean casarez. in reading about this, police are saying, this was a targeted shooting. shot through the driver side window. tell me what kind of dealings this victim was involved in and who could be out to get him. >> that's the big question, but i think what you're saying is fascinating, because this was a public figure. he actually restored this mansion, this castle, for $30 million. it was in disarray. and it was featured in the movie "citizen cain," very famous people were married there. he was involved and still is, in local politics, holding galas at this mansion. but the fact is, he lives on the property, walked out, apparently got into his car, but from all the facts we know at this point, someone was lying in wait. >> it doesn't appear to be an accidental shooting at this time. preliminary investigation right now does indicate a suspect was wearing a mask. >> now, here's what's

interesting, too. just the skull of his head was grazed, so brooke, when he was taken to the hospital by a family member, he was coherent. he went into immediate surgery, but how much will he be able to tell them, if the gunman was masked? so i think it is an investigation that is of paramount importance here in new york, because this is someone who was vital to the community, he gave money and donations to every single member of the party, but the fact is, someone tried to kill him, and no one agrees with that. >> as police are investigating, take me back to this castle. you mentioned, it was the backdrop for "citizen cain," but bill clinton officiated the marriage of anthony weiner there. what is it used for today? >> weddings, dinner, a friend of mine said she goes to concerts there. it's really everything and anything at this very famous location, but here's where it all happened. in the valet parking lot at the

courtyard entrance. so, that sounds very public, right? that someone was able to get on the property. and you would be able to get on the property if you're going to stay on the hotel or if you're looking at it to hold your wedding. >> stay on it, in new york. thank you very much. and now to you parents. you will pay more for you and your children to feel the magic at the magic kingdoms, because ticket prices up again at the disney theme park. coming up next, we'll tell you how much you'll have to pay and the scoop, maybe, if you can pay a little less. [ male announcer ] did you know that if you wear a partial, you're almost twice as likely to lose your supporting teeth? try poligrip for partials. poligrip helps minimize stress which may damage supporting teeth by stabilizing your partial. care for your partial. help protect your natural teeth. my dad has aor afib.brillation, he has the most common kind... ...it's not caused by a heart valve problem. dad, it says your afib puts you at 5 times greater risk of a stroke. that's why i take my warfarin every day. but it looks like maybe we should

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the most expensive theme park at walt disney world, new york, just got a little more expensive. now admission to the magic kingdom has gone up, now costing just shy of that 100 mark at $99 for a one-day adult ticket. that is a $4 increase. tickets at epcot, animal kingdom, and hollywood studios also increased $4. but, disney prices are not far off from other theme parks in the state. both universal studios and seaworld, orlando, charge $92 for basic one-day adult ticket. and kelly wallace, in the flesh, in the studio. nice to have you here in studio 7. i feel like there's this psychological something about the $100 mark. >> it is. i think that is so -- we're at $99. what is it going to take if disney at some point might make it over $100 for magic kingdom or the other parks. it's like, why do retailers make the blouse $34.99 and you buy it

as opposed to being at $35. but we'll have to see. but so far, the prices keep going up, and people and families keep flocking there. >> i have to say, when i read this morning, i was like, no shocked face, because i just feel like you sort of know that disney world is expensive. >> you do. that's why i first thought about it, i was like, oh, my god, how expensive. it is a $4 increase. it was $95 for magic kingdom, now it's $99. and i think any family that goes there, they know they're going to spend a fortune to take their family. but the thing i keep thinking about is, are they going to price out a lot of middle class families -- >> are we? will your typical middle class family finally be able to say, sorry, can't go? >> so far -- >> which is sad! it's a wonderful place. >> so far, that hasn't happened yet. attendance apparently keeps going up and up. i took my family there recently. and there are a ton of families there. you do get the sense that a lot of families save up and up and up. and make this sort of the annual trip for their family. they know they're going to spend a fortune, but they save their money to do it.

i just hope it doesn't get to that point, where families can't do it. that would be a crime. >> is there any way, and i'm asking, i don't have kids, but i'm the gal that goes to the movie theater and goes to cvs ahead of time, and buys her sour patch kids there. >> now we know! >> is there anything you can do to, i don't know, multi -- you know, what is it? >> it's a multi-day pass. you can certainly do that and take advantage of discounts. you're not paying that one-day cost. you can spread it over a number of days. they have all kinds of packages, especially for, you know, the height of the summer, when it's so hot, nobody wants to go, or when it's really crowded. they might have certain packages that families can take advantage of. >> look into it. do your homework. >> exactly. but know you're going to spend money. i mean, we have -- and also know, i said, our kids had an amazing, amazing time. >> cinderella still is fun. >> they loved it! and i didn't think we would have as much fun, but we did. although, recringed wondering how many european cities we could have visited for the same price. >> oh, the children! >> the children.

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got some breaking news here at the bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. this is what we're learning. word of a massive recall from general motors. more than 1 million vehicles are affected. and here's the issue. it's an ignition problem. let me go straight to our money car expert, peter valdez. peter, what exactly is the issue here? >> well, the issue here is that the ignition switch can accidentally come out of the run position while the car is driving, shutting off the engine, that also shuts off power steering, shuts off your power brake assist, also shuts off your airbags. it's a bad situation. gm had already recalled 780,000 cars roughly for this, but now

they've expanded it to 1.4 million cars total. >> which cars, specifically, peter? >> all right. well, they had already recalled the chevrolet coballot and the nearly identical pontiac g-5, they're recalling the chevy hhr, pontiac solstice, saturn sky and saturn ion in addition to those other cars. >> how many issues had gm had in recent years? >> i mean, gm -- these days, all auto manufacturers, and i don't want to single out gm, many automotive manufacturers have had a number of recalls. toyota has had a number of recalls over the years, so has chrysler. these days, especially, auto makers are really sensitive to wanting to jump on issues as quickly as possible. now, this issue dates back some years and they're finally getting on top of it. but auto makers are much more sensitive these days the about jumping on recalls, because there are serious penalties. an auto maker can be fined about $35 million for failing to recall a car in a timely fashion

once they know of a safety problem. >> okay. peter, thank you very much. i'm sure you're going to have this right up on cnn.com. i know we blew through that. for people who want to read about specifically these cars, cnnmoney.com. i want to move along and talk about former president bill clinton, because he is back on the campaign trail. and it's not for himself, not for his wife, hillary clinton. he is, in fact, campaigning for a long time family friend, trying town seat kentucky's mitch mcconnell, the most powerful republican currently sitting in the u.s. senate. and it is clear the former president still enjoys being on the stump. >> politics is not rocket science. it's either creative cooperation or constant conflict. it's either a focus on people or a focus on keeping yourself in power by keeping people torn up and upset, so they can't think anymore. and, you know, when allison got

in this race, retalked about it, i said, your point is a genius at that latter course, he's skated a couple of elections here doing that. you can't beat that. you've got to beat it with this. give the people something. >> let's talk about this kentucky trip with this man, our chief national correspondent, john king, and host of cnn's "inside politics." and john king, i mean, here you have this 35-year-old, you know, young woman, allison grimes, democrat in a red state. she is taking on, you know, as we mentioned, the number two in the senate, the tip-top republican. how did she get bill clinton to campaign for her? >> you mentioned the family relationship. bill clinton is very close to her dad, who was once a state party chairman, was in the legislature in kentucky. i met him way back in 1991, when bill clinton was gearing up to run for president. and bill clinton, you know, campaigned in kentucky. we view it now as a red state, but bill clinton carried kentucky. that's why he's there, family history, family friendship. but this is also, for democrats,

brooke, this is just the premiere challenge. they want to get mitch mcconnell. they see him as vulnerable. now, mitch mcconnell has a tea party primary challenge to get through first, but democrats see a remote opportunity, they're honest about it, a remote opportunity, but they think this young female candidate is the right profile to run against mitch mcconnell. i will say this, though. this was a fascinating snapshot of 2014. now, allison grimes gave this long speech about the bill clinton economy. she never mentioned barack obama. that's one of her problems. he's unpopular in the state of kentucky. and mitch mcconnell was just asked about bill clinton being there, and he said, he came down my last two elections and i won, so keep him coming. >> some of the dems would like bill clinton rather than barack obama by his side. what about the fact that currently, barack obama, not very popular there. do you think kentucky, though, would actually dump mitch mcconnell for this young woman? >> mitch mcconnell has a problem that all incumbents have. and mitch mcconnell has been magnified, because he has the title, leader. voters everywhere don't like

incumbents. they especlly don't like incumbents with titles, because they view them as responsible for the problem. i've seen some of the internal polling in kentucky, and the voters in kentucky are mad at mitch mcconnell, because they view him as part of the problem in washington. now, bill clinton said it himself, mitch mcconnell's a very crafty politician. if you go back, there have been many times in his career he's been counted out. he has a tea party challenge to deal with first. he hasn't spent a lot of money focusing on the democrat yet. but if this race right now, february, so, in some ways, discount this, but this race right now, if you match up allison grimes and mitch mcconnell, it's a toss-up, which tells you mitch mcconnell is going to have to fight, assuming he survives this primary, and it tells you, brooke, that a boat load of national money from republicans and democrats is going to come into this race. because if democrats see a chance to knock off the leader, you have to go back in history a little bit, when the republicans knocked off tom dashel when he was the senate democratic leader. there's a little bit of a grudge match here. trust me, this is a big one. >> okay. we'll watch that. but also this. because we're finally getting some details from the john

boehner/president obama meeting, you know, early this morning, the first meeting in months and months. we know it happened for about an hour. and just looking at the list, john king, they talked about manufacturing, trade, flood insurance, immigration, health care, afghanistan, california drought. the list goes on. do we have any idea what they talked about the most? >> no, we don't. what we're getting from both sides is that it was a productive meeting, it was a cardial meeting. but when you don't have a very long meeting and a long list of items, what does that tell you? they pretty much went through, we've got to do this, do this, and a readout from speaker boehner, one of his top aids, where they can get things done, they will try to get things done. that was the end of the meeting, there are some like drought and farm policy, where you can see compromise. if you want to talk immigration, budget, taxes, big things, health care, don't count on the it. >> manufacturing, president talking about that from the east room of the white house in about a half hour are now. we'll take a little bit of that. mr. king, thank you so much. and make sure we watch john

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friend of jordan bellfer, the author of the book that then inspired the movie. rugrat is seen in this film doing cocaine and a whole lot more. >> there's no issue that the character was me. he's the only person in the entire book that jordy decided to not only use my name, but my full name, andrew todd greene. i've known jordy since i'm 10 years old. there are reasons why he went after me personally. but i'm angry because i was harmed, i was humiliated, i was humiliated in front of my family, my friends. i was humiliated in front of a woman that i planned to marry. i lost my job. >> what he is portraying to you is this napoleonic complex that he had. when they say "wolf of wall street," i would like to know

anybody who can tell me that anybody ever called him that. >> i think he called him that, didn't he? >> only himself. >> well, the defendants in this lawsuit maintain that rugrat is not green, but a combination of characters. and the academy awards, nearly days away. and while everybody is talking about who will take home a trophy, there is something even bigger brewing, as in, a "wizard of oz" tribute. the iconic 1939 musical will be marking 75 years. ♪ somewhere over the rainbow ♪ way up high ♪ there's a land that i heard of, once in a lullaby ♪ >> i don't care how old you are, doesn't that just still kind of give you the goose bumps? there is more to this story. hollywood reporter has the scoop, they're reporting that garland's three kids will

reunite at the oscars for the tribute. liza took home a best actress oscar back in 1973 for "cabaret," so joining me live, her and her classic movie host, ben makeowitz. do we have any idea what they'll be doing this weekend on stage? >> yeah, oddly, they're not consulting me for what they ought to do on stage. >> they're not? >> i've got a lot of really good ideas. that's crazy. you just heard "over the rainbow." i imagine these are three people who could give a fairly nice rendition of "over the rainbow," but we don't know what they're going to do. it will be something of a surprise. but it's merely a surprise that the three of them are ready to appear on stage together, to celebrate, perhaps, their mother's signature film. >> do we know, when was the last time all three of these judy garland children shared a single stage? >> i don't know when they all were together, because, of course, they didn't get along for some time, although reportedly, things are now good

between them and lorna luft, who was a singer and actress in her own right, performs secretly, and liza appeared with her at a performance as late as last year. so they have been together, and things are now good, which, of course, warms all of our hearts. they clearly all loved their mother, but those were difficult years to have to deal with what their mother was going through, and to know now that as they've reached into their 50s and 60s, that they're get along is really nice. and somehow that comforts me and all of us who love "wizard of oz," is comforted by that. and that's something i want to see at the oscars. >> i'm excited too. let me ask you now about harold ramis, the great hollywood director and actor, passed away. we talked about this yesterday, age 69. but i wanted to ask you today, just thinking about, i mean, this is a man, both in front of the camera and behind the camera, this man appealed to all generations. for me, it was "ghostbusters," for others, it was "groundhog

day," "as good as it gets," "national lampoon," >> and you're leaving out the one that appeals to me most, which is "stripes," which i can quote almost line for line. when you start looking at the movies that he either wrote or directed or starred in, and in many of them, he did one, two, or three of those things the. you start to get an idea, "animal house," kaddy shack, "stripes," "analyze this," "ghostbusters," "meatballs," these are movies that mattered and ushered in, in many ways, this new era of comedies, the jud apatow comedies, the will farrell movies, these are movies that owe a bit of debt of gratitude to the movies that harold ramis played such an important role in. and i think that for many film fans, i don't think we fully appreciated his contribution, in part because as an actor, following the "ghostbusters" movies, he didn't appear much, except in bit roles, and we sort

of got the sense that he went away, when, of course, he didn't, he just sort of went into the background as an actor. but that's exactly what he was. he was a background player, would lob in a few funny lines, background player on screens, but behind the scenes, he was a driving force. and i didn't appreciate harold ramis enough. i count myself with the masses who read these obits and appreciations today and thought, oh, my goodness, the level of the quality of these films, the lasting quality of these wonderful comedies, he was sensational. >> the laughter to tears in some cases. ben makeowitz, turner classic movies host, thank you so much. and a quick reminder to all of you, turn in thursday night when cnn films brings you, "and the oscar goes to," airs thursday night, 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. right now, states are racing to be the first to prosecute el chopo, the drug kingpin locked up in mexico. and while we wait to see if and when he's coming to the u.s., we

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in a clear example of the wide reach, mexican drug lord, joaquin el chapo, several districts in the united states have brought indictments against him, and they are racing to be the first ones to get to prosecute him. but there are still a lot of doubt as far as whether or not he'll ever set foot inside a u.s. courtroom. because lawyers for gusman have filed two appeals against his possible extradition. keep in mind, he is being formally charged in mexico. el chapo was captured in this area where cartels have instituted fear, but in this bizarre twist, have also inspired respect. cnn's gary tuchman goes to mexico, shows us these two very different sides of the drug trade, and just let me warn you, some of the images you're about to see are graphic. this is one of the most dangerous spots in mexico. a place where few outsiders go. >> reporter: we're driving through the heart of the mexican state of sinaloa, which is home of the multi-national business known as the sinaloa cartel.

one of the most powerful, wealthy, brutal, ruthless drug cartels that ever was. its leader is a man by the name of joaquin guzman, better known as el chapo, and this is his home. this is el chapo back in 1993, after he'd been captured. but in 2001, he escaped from prison in a laundry cart. marijuana, cocaine, method, heroin, and murder are all part of his business. violent scenes like these, garbage stuck in garbage bags, are directly connected to the wrath of the sinaloa cartel. much of the blood is spilled here, in the largest city in sinaloa. and the violent nerve center of the cartel. his rumors spread that el chapo was killed in a gunfight, no one here seemed to believe it. >> translator: around here, he is the legend of sinaloa. >> reporter: and that mystique is part of the reason that people are protective of him. el chapo was seen as a modern-day robin hood, helping churn the sinaloa economy with

drug money. a common feel iing, leave el cho and his cartel alone, and he'll leave us alone. >> reporter: at this sinaloa cathedral, one of the priests says it's commonly understood that people mind their manners when it comes to el chapo and his bloody exploits. >> translator: people from around here know not to speak about el chapo. we don't talk about it. >> reporter: just drive around here, and you'll see how the drug kingpin and members of his cartel are idolized. storefronts bear the name of the cartel leader. and it's not uncommon to see el chapo printed on the tops of license plate frames. but nothing idolizes the narco trafficking trade more than here. money lines the walls and ceiling of a business and place of prayer that celebrates the drug culture and the life of a man who many compare to el chapo. >> this is a site you'd never expect to see in a law-abiding society. this is literally a chapel dedicated to a man by the name of jesus mall verde who died in the early 20th century.

he is considered a patron saint for drug dealers and those who sympathize with drug dealers. he was considered a robin hood back in his time. drug dealers come here, families of drug dealers come here to pray for people who died and also to pray for good transports of their drugs up north. here's a sign, for example. this is a chapel right inside here, and here's a sign, and in spanish it said, thank you to god, thank you to st. jude, and thank you to jesus malverde for the favor of protecting our family. and signed by a family here in sinaloa. but the most bizarre scene in sinaloa might be this. driving down this street in, it looks like you're entering a neighborhood, but this is a cemetery where cartel members are buried. this looks like a house, but it's not. there's a body buried in here. it's a tomb. there are scores of similar mausoleums in the cemetery, with the faces of the drug kingpins posted outside the crypts. narco traffickers who likely grew up in poverty and homes much smaller than their final resting places.

and when the drug trade is glorified like this, it's easy to see how someone like el chapo could elude capture for so long. gary tuchman, cnn, kulkaun, mexico. >> gary, thank you. smiles, a standing ovation, and a tremendous recognition of bravery for three women who were held captive in that ohio house of horrors last year. coming up next, we'll show you how the state tease governor honored these three women with a very special award. ♪

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it's this proposal that was specifically written to protect them from lawsuits. her office received this letter just today, signed by 80-plus arizona companies, all of them want her to veto this bill. 1062 expands state definitions of religious freedoms, allowing not just people, but businesses and allowing associations to deny services if providing them goes against their religious beliefs. now, critics, and there are a lot of them, say 1062 is a way to legally discriminate against gay people. and while debating that point, one will's supporter would not or could not explain how sb-1062 prevents discrimination. you have to hear this. this is state senator al melvin. he's actually a candidate for governor, talking to anderson cooper. roll it. >> and around your law, under this law, if i'm a catholic loan officer, say, in a bank, and i don't like the idea of loaning money to a divorced woman, because jesus spoke against divorce very strongly, or i don't want to loan money to an

unwed mother, even though she may be able to pay me back as a loan officer, just because it's against my religious belief, and my religious belief is sincere, under your law, i could refuse to do business with an unwed mother or a divorced woman, correct? >> i don't know where you're getting your hypotheticals from, sir. divorced women and what was the other one you cited? >> unwed mother. >> i mean, who would be against an unwed mother. i wouldn't be. i wouldn't be against a divorced woman. >> but, sir, as you know -- sir -- >> you're trying to take discrimination to the nth degree. >> no, sir, i'm talking about what jesus spoke. jesus spoke against divorce. >> if you want to watch the whole interview, cnn.com. here is dana bash, our chief cnn correspondent, and you talked to the woman, really, of the week here, jan brewer. tell me, why is it expected that she will veto this bill by saturday?

>> well, first of all, the answer to that is, according to people who are familiar with her thinking, know her well in arizona, the answer is what you talked about at the beginning of the segment, which is primarily the business side of this. she considers herself a pro-business governor. she has spent years trying to build back up the economy of her state and she understands very well the kind of backlash against businesses in arizona, that this could have. having said that, that is certainly what i'm told she is thinking behind the scenes, in private, when it comes to her public comments, she is still very cautious. and especially cautious because she's been here in washington. she's on a plane right now, going back to her home state of arizona. so she was reluctant to say much specific about where she'd go, but, i think, some of what she maybe didn't say is telling. listen to at least part of our conversation. >> and i don't relay a whole lot on my gut, because i have to look at what it says and what the law says and take that

information and do the right thing. but i can assure you, as always, i will do the right thing for the state of arizona. >> i'm going to do the right thing for the state of arizona. now, obviously, that can be read multiple ways, depending on where you sit. but from the perspective of the governor, and again, the perspective of somebody who considers herself very pro-business, every tea leaf that i am being told to read from people who are close to her is that that means she is not going to sign this. that she is going to veto it. you might ask when. well, she is going to go back today. the original plan was to at least give herself a full day to deliberate, to read the bill, to look at it, and then perhaps do it as early as thursday. but, you know, you never know, because this has become sort of taken on a life of its own, that she might want to take the advice of that senior senator from arizona, john mccain, and just veto it and move on. >> i hear you loud on clear with the issues about the corporations piling on and signing this letter. but i'm also curious of this

other story line, which is this little football game called the super bowl that is supposed to happen in phoenix next year, and we know that the nfl, they've released a statement, they are watching very closely, you know, what happens with this bill. do you think, dana, i don't know if you got a chance to ask her, if the super bowl at all affected or will affect her decision. >> i asked her that specific question. i only got a couple questions in, and that was one of my big ones for her. because, obviously, the super bowl, in any state, brings in or should bring in so much revenue. and you know, little-known fact that i actually forgot about, was one of our colleagues brought up earlier this morning, the super bowl was supposed to be in arizona years ago, and the nfl moved it because of the controversy over mlk day. so there's no question. she didn't directly answer my question about the super bowl, but that was the point where she wanted to emphasize that she's very much for growing business in her state and doesn't want to do anything to jeopardize that.

i think that was the answer. >> glad you got a chance to ask her just those few questions. dana bash, we'll be watching for the deadline for her to veto saturday. dana, thank you. and just a heads up for you. we are standing by, we're watching for the president. any moment now he will be speaking at the white house in the east room, announcing new plans to boost american manufacturing. so we're watching for that and wii take some of that live for you. so, standby. but i can tell you that former vice president dick cheney is taking issue with the president, and yes, he has done this before. but this time, it's those planned defense cuts that we talked about yesterday. cheney uses some pretty harsh language to argue that president obama is making america less safe. >> i'm driven by budget considerations. much rather spend the money on food stamps than on a strong military or support for our troops. >> tough talk from the former vice president.

let's talk about this with van jones, co-host of cnn's "cross fire," and bob sexton, and also former cia officer, who served in both iraq and afghanistan. gentleman, welcome to both of you. and, van jones, you up first. just your reaction to what dick cheney said. >> well, you know, it's ludicrous. i know that he's a big champion of welfare, corporate welfare, for halliburton. i'm sure he would love for us to get in some other big land war where halliburton could make a lot of money. but we're going from having about a little more than half a million soldiers to a little bit fewer than half a million soldiers. people can jump up and down and say that's ridiculous, but the reality is we've got to right size our military so we can fight the wars of the future, which will rely a lot more on technology, being agile, closing some of these bases are make us stronger, not weaker. he threw in that food stamp reference, because that's what

dick cheney does. but, obviously, that part of the budget has nothing to do with the defense budget. >> i hear the word "ludicrous" from you, van jones. but buck, here's why i really wanted to talk to you, too. because you srerved in both ira and afghanistan. and tell us why we shouldn't have more drones and lasers and driveless tanks? >> well, we should, absolutely, have those things. but you bring up, for example, two major land wars the u.s. has been involved in, in recent history. and the idea that the u.s. government can project accurately into the future what troop strength we would need in order to address those threats. now, the obama administration's essentially getting away with using budget policy in order to determine at some level what military strategy is going to be. the reality is they're saying, we don't want a force of this size, because we won't need to do these major land occupations in the future. but the truth is, the same soldiers that may be building houses or wells in afghanistan, whether or not someone agrees with that, those troops would be necessary for a war that we

can't see coming. and it takes a lot longer to train a combat pilot or train a veteran soldier than it does to say, wibuild a tank. these are the issues they have to be looking at going forward. a 20% cut in army forces is not nibbling around the edges. that is a bite down the middle. that is a serious drawdown in our force strength. >> again, we are talking about the u.s. military. don't you think there is a call for boots on the ground, we will be ready with enough forces. >> let me just add one thing. i would love to hear buck's response on this. we're going from talking about having the biggest military in the history of the world, bigger than every other military, by a couple of factors, to having the biggest military in the history of the world, bigger than every other military by a couple of factors. in other words, it really does not make sense to me. we were planning on going, to having 490,000 soldiers. now they're saying 450,000 soldiers. we're still bigger than everybody, by far. why is this some reason for us to jump up and down and act like we're going to be invaded by canada tomorrow. >> go ahead, bob. >> this is where the

administration and i and many others have a separation of ideology. i actually think the projection of u.s. military power abroad is a good thing for the world. i actually believe that the united states is a force for stabilization and for good, and while the administration may love the trillion-dollar welfare states that we hav and the leaps and bounds we're taking towards socialized medicine, the truth is that unlike our friends in europe, we don't have an american to count on, to keep the sea lanes open. we don't have an america to count on to make sure that the dictators of the world can at least sit up and take notice, or like they did until this president took office. these are the issues that come to the fore when people ask, why this drastic reduction. meanwhile, if you try to cut anything this administration a believes is sacred, like entitlement, nothing can ever be cut. there's nothing that can ever be cut from that budget. >> let me pivot. van, speaking specifically of troops, we have just learned, we know that president of afghanistan, hamid karzai, was on the phone with obama this morning, and talking to our

pentagon folks, they tell us, according to a senior u.s. official, they tell us for the first time, here we have the commander in chief to begin planning for this complete withdrawal. there will still be an option to stay. but, quote, reached a point where the pentagon has to begin planning for zero troops. my question to you, is the president calling karzai's bluff? >> well, he may well be calling karzai's bluff, but he's also delivering on what the american people want. the american people, you know, after 12 years, want our troops home. nobody, now, can explain to anybody, what we're doing over there, why we should be there, you know, if karzai doesn't want us there, the population, apparently, is more mad us than glad that we're there, if you look at the polling data. it's not clear to me why we should be there. i think people want our troops back home, and this is part of the process. eventually, we're not going to have troops over there. we can't be an occupying force for decade after decade. >> van jones, we watch every day, 6:30 p.m. eastern on "cross

fire," and buck sexton, thank you both very much. now to this, an elite team of marines is on its way to ukraine to beef up the security of the embassy in kiev. this after last week's deadly anti-government protest. and what's now expected to be really a turbulent transition to replace the now-deposed president, victor yanukovych. keep in mind, this man is still on the run. he is wanted for mass murder, fleeing his opulent palace, that opened to the public just a day after he took off. former president bill clinton using the unusual situation to get a few laughs. >> you follow what's going on in ukraine? it's the darnedest thing i ever saw. the politicians didn't throw the president out. the people did. they say, this guy is not in it for us anymore. then they went into his presidential residence, which

they had privatized for himself. can you imagine what somebody would do if the president or any president tried to say, i think i'll privatize the white house and keep the paintings if it's all the same to you? >> in the absence of viktor yanukovych, the seat for presidency in ukraine and vacant, and former heavyweight boxing champ, vitali klitschko, just announced he's throwing his hat in the ring. the violence may have calmed in ukraine for now, but in venezuela, anti-government protests are becoming deadlier by the day. >> the death toll is now up to 13, and the u.s. is resorting to tit for tat, expelling three venezuelan diplomats in response to the expulsion of three diplomats from venezuela.

as for the political chess game happening, look at this, in the streets of caracas, people filled the streets with chaos. they want president nicolas maduro to step down, to leave. but he has strong support from the military, and many of the nation's poor. coming up, ted nugent says his controversial comments are not racist and he's given up on calling people names. but that didn't last very long. we'll show you, and talk to erin burnett, who interviewed him last night. also next, a twitter account claiming to be a fly on the wall at the elevator of goldman sachs, making extra obnoxious comment at the big bank common knowledge. it's a fake, folks. as for the guy behind it, doesn't even work on wall street. a lot ahead in the newsroom. stay right here. s getting out. purina dog chow light & healthy is a deliciously tender and crunchy kibble blend. with 20% fewer calories than purina dog chow. isn't it time you discovered the lighter side of dog chow.

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this just into us here at cnn. we're now learning that the department of transportation is going to fine aseana airlines, the airline that crashed in san francisco last year, so the d.o.t. is fining them $500,000 for not adhering to the family assistance plan. let's talk to alison kosik, who can explain what this means. alison? >> this really caught our eye, brooke, because this is the first time that the department of transportation has issued a fine under this statute that you mentioned. it was put in place in 1997. and what this law specifically does is really outline specific guidelines that airlines have to follow after a crash. and what d.o.t. is saying, that as aseana didn't provide many of them, including a special phone line for family members to call

following the days of the crash. all family members could do was call reservations. you can only imagine what worry these family members were going through. the d.o.t. also says aseana also took three days to contact some family members of the passengers. the airline also failed to send personnel to san francisco to deal with the aftermath and communicate in various languages, spoken by passengers on the flight. now, just keep in mind, aseana did comply with all of this eventually, but it took almost a week. one thing to keep in mind, this $500,000 fine, not huge when you think about the revenue from aseana back in 2012 was reportedly $1 billion. so not a huge fine. i think more of an example that d.o.t. is making of aseana, you know, telling airlines, you've got to comply with this federal law. >> saying, it's not okay to let family members know two, three, four, five days after the fact. alison kosik, thank you. >> sure.

you have probably heard about this twitter sensation, this presumed wall street insider. this guy was just checking his twitter feed when 600,000 followers sharing salacious conversations and juicy gossip allegedly heard inside of a goldman sachs elevator. let me show you one tweet to set the tone here. suit number one says, was that an earthquake? suit number two says, no, i just dropped my wallet. it turns out this twitter handle, @gselevator, is a fake, and he has been unmasked. he is john lefevre, and these gossipy tweets were not, in fact, coming from inside a goldman sachs elevator, they were coming all the way from texas. joining me now is cnn money's emily fox. and i see this guy hasn't tweeted since february 16th. what about goldman sachs here? can they take any action? >> well, actually, goldman sachs has been pretty lighthearted in

their response to this. they told "the new york times" yesterday that the official ban on elevator chart has the actually been lifted now that the identity has been out there. and for everyone to hear. >> okay, who is this guy, this lefevre? you've interviewed him. isn't he writing a book? >> he is. when i interviewed him back in may, he seemed like he was pretty into all the fame he was amassing on twitter. we talked all about the famous celebrity who is follow him from yahoo!'s marissa meyer to swimsuit model kate upton. and when i most recently spoke to him a few weeks ago, he was really excited about all the publicity his new book deal was bringing him. i haven't been able to reach him since the revelation came out last night, but i would imagine he's still basking in the glow of his internet celebrity for as long as that will last him. >> mm-hmm. emily fox, things not to do. thank you very much.

>> thank you. as we mentioned, we've been keeping a close eye on the white house, because the president now speaking. let's take a listen. >> -- is responsible for trimming my trees and potholes in front of my house and shoveling snow. and i haven't been back for a while. i don't know how it's going, but i'm assuming he's handling his business. the mayor of the great city of chicago, rahm emanuel, is here. we've goth phil la joy, the supervisor of canton township, michigan, is here. there he is. good job, phil. and we've got some outstanding members of congress who are h e here. especially someone who just announced that this would be his last term in congress, but is somebody who so many of us have learned from, have admired.

he is a man who has every single day of his life, in office, made sure that he was fighting on behalf of people who really needed help and he is going to be very missed. john, you are not just the longest serving member of congress in american history, you're also one of the very best. michigan's own john dingell is here. we are better off because of john's service and we're going to miss him. now, today i am joined by researchers who invent some of the most advanced metals on the planet, designers who are modeling prototypes in the

digital cloud, folks from the pentagon, who helped to support their work, basically, i'm here to announce that we're building ironman. i'm going to palast off in a second. this has been a secret project we've been working on for a long time. not really maybe. it's classified. but, keeping america, the cutting edge of technology and innovation is what is going to ensure a steady stream of good jobs into the 21st century. and that's why we're here today, to take new action to put america at the forefront of 21st century manufacturing. now, this is a moment when our economy is growing, and it has been growing steadily for over four years now.

our businesses have created about 8 1/2 million new jobs over the past four years. the unemployment rate is the lowest it's been in over five years. our manufacturing sector is adding jobs for the first time since the 1990s. so, there's some good news to report, but the trends that have battered the middle class for decades have become, in some ways, even starker. while those at the top are doing better than ever, average wages have barely budged. too many americans are working harder than ever to barely keep up. and it's our job to reverse those trends. we've got to build an economy that works for everyone, not just a fortunate few. we've got to restore opportunity for all people. that's the essence of america. no matter who you are, where you come from, what you look like, how you started out, if you are willing to work hard and take

responsibility, you can get ahead in america. so i've been talking now for months about an opportunity agenda. and let me break it down into four parts. number one, more jobs that pay good wages. jobs in american manufacturing, rebuilding our infrastructure, innovation, energy. number two, training workers with the skills they need to fill those jobs. number three, guaranteed access to a world class education for every child in america. and number four, making sure that hard work pays off. with wages you can live on and savings you can retire on and health insurance you can count on when you need it. now, i'm looking forward to working with congress, wherever they're willing to do something on any of these priorities. and i have to say that the members of congress who are here all care deeply about these issues. >> you can keep watching the president speaking there from the east room, talking about this partnership he's announcing with the private sector to grow

jobs, grow the middle class, specifically, in the advanced manufacturing sector. keep watching cnn.com and also a quick little shout-out to john dingell, who has announced he is leave congress after 59 years. longest serving member of congress in the nation's history. coming up, we see the president here. president obama, this morning, actually met with john boehner, speaker of the house, in this rare one-on-one meeting, but in his first public comments, the house speaker already went on the attack. we will play that for you coming up next. plus, former rocker, now political pontificator, ted nugent telling cnn that his sub-human mongrel and chimpanzee comments about president obama were not racist. also saying he was going to stop all the name-calling, but that lasted for a cool 20 seconds. hear what he told erin burnett, coming up. , and you can customize it. i can download anything i want. [ girl ] seriously? that's a lot of music. seriously.

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all right. so this morning, this is a first snef in several months. you have the president of the united states sitting down in a face-to-face meeting with the speaker of the house, john boehn boehner. hours later, john boehner took to the house of the floor and was in total attack mode. this is what he said. >> mr. speaker, my colleagues this week, the house will consider several measures to stop government abuse, especially when it threatens freedom and limits opportunity. the american people expect accountability. every day, the house is focused on carrying out responsible oversight. as an example, late on friday,

the obama administration released a report that we demanded detailing the impact of the health care law and what it will do to employer-sponsored health plans. you may not have seen the report. it was released rather quietly on friday afternoon, so i'm going to enter it into the record today i urge every member to read it and share it with your constituents. keep in mind, the white house promised this law would bring down health insurance premiums by some $2,000 per family instead, according to the administration's own bookkeepers, premiums would go up for two out of three small businesses in our country. this amounts to about 11 million employees, who are going to see more money coming out of their paycheck for their health insurance every month. now, remember, these premiums will be felt not just by workers, but the small business owners themselves, making it

even harder to create jobs. another sucker punch to our economy. another broken promise to hard-working americans. and the only reason we even know about it is that the house demanded this transparency from the administration. that's why the house continues to focus on stopping government abuse and promoting better solutions for middle class families and small businesses. i yield back. >> you hear that? house speaker talking about broken promises, a sucker punch, hours after he met face-to-face with president obama. ted nugent, he says he did not mean for his recent insults against president obama to be taken as racist. that's what he says. but he's not backing off on his criticism as anyone he sees as a political adversary. in this extended interview with erin burnett, he says he should have chosen his recent comments more carefully, yes, but that the president in his view is simply ruining the dun. >> i think the president is

intentionally disassembling the greatest quality of life in the history of the world. i believe that he is creating class warfare intentionally to get americans to draw this line in the sand, where i've never seen such political discourse in all my life. and yes, i do apologize for being part of that political discourse, because greater men than myself have advised me that that kind of street language in a volatile interview, as you played earlier, is not appropriate when we're trying to get some upgrade here in america. but i cannot put into adequate terms the condemnation i feel and so many americans feel, that this president's fundamental transformation of this country is, indeed, the destruction of the american dream of being compensated based on being the best that you can be. the concept of social justice and economic equality is true bizar bizarreo. the president's a bad man. i want to make sure that americans are encouraged to be the best that they can be, not

to be compensated for not even trying. i really believe history will show that i have been right and the president and cnn was wrong. >> i want to understand, because a lot of people want to understand. and look, i understand, you're saying now, i want to elevate the discussion. a lot of people will say, that's great, if you started to do that. but i want to understand why you used the word "mongrel," when you did, okay? because, obviously, i looked it up in the dictionary, i'm sure you have as well at this point, the definition is a dog of mixture or indeterminant breed, and the only use of the word mongrel in street talk was the aryan membership form, you have to confirm that you're of a certain origin. i agree with aryan's nations'

biblical seclusion of jews, negroes or mongrels. >> i've never heard that reference before. i've been a cop in lake county, michigan, since 1982 or thereabouts. i conduct federal raids with the atf and u.s. marshals and fbi and texas rangers. and the heroes of law enforcement. and we're re-arresting fugitive felons who are let out of their cages after murdering and raping and molesting children, carjacking. we keep going after these guys. the adrenaline is something like you'll never experience. i hope you never have to experience it. but when we're done with these kinds of raids, we get together and our hearts are broken that we have to face these monsters. and we call them mongrels. we call bad people who are destroying our neighborhood mongrels. i knew of know racial reference. i think the president is absolutely correct. whites, blacks, hispanics, yellow, red, we're all mongrels, basically, because we're mixed breeds. i concur with that. so i learned something there and i learned something from your research into history.

>> wow. erin, that was quite the roller coaster. and you talked -- >> yeah. >> -- for quite a while. >> mm-hmm. >> and i know he apologized, he said he was not being racist, said he was going to back off the whole name calling thing, but do you believe he was sincere? >> i mean, that's the question, brooke. and i think, you know, i guess the context i would put around it is this, ted nugent wants to come on and talk about things he doesn't like about the president, in particular, things that have to do with guns and gun control policy, yet we had an entire interview that went about 15 minutes, and that didn't come up once. the entire interview was, in what context did you use the word chimpanzee, and was about the use of the word, sub-human mongrel, and in further, was about words i'm not going to refer to here, which he called hillary clinton, one of which begins with the letter "c." so a problem for ted nugent, including key republicans,

including the front-runner for the governor of texas, which have refused to denounce the statements and refused to say that they won't campaign with him. look, he says that he's not going to use these words again. i find that -- haas hard to believe, because then in the same sentence, he went on and started talking about the president being a liar and engaging in criminal acts. it seems it's very hard for him to keep that to himself. >> you mentioned -- going back to hillary clinton, and this word of which we will not speak, a word that, you know, i don't care who you are, it's a horrible word, it's an offensive word. >> right. >> what did he say when you asked him about that? and were there any apologies there? >> you know, that's -- he didn't directly apologize to hillary clinton, no. but he did -- he just said, that was where he made the moment, he said, you know what, he tried to sort of make light of it, which in the interview, i said, i don't take this lightly and i don't think people watching take this light we, but to make a comment, this is the alamo, and

on this date ted nugent says, he'll never call anybody names ever again. that's how he responded specifically to the "c" words and other words he's used to describe hillary clinton. and he brought up bill maher also using the "c" word to refer to sarah palin, which, of course, was utterly inappropriate. the whole point is, it's inappropriate and horrendous no matter who's using it, regardless of your political party. >> i don't know how many times, i guess you've interviewed him in the past, but were you surprised he agreed to come on and to talk for 15 minutes? >> i was, brooke. i have interviewed him before about guns, and as you know, our colleague, deb feyerick, has been down to his average in texas and done extensive reporting on the cult of ted nugent, which is a significant -- he's a significantly influential individual, especially in a poor group of people, who care deeply about gun rights in country, and i was surprised. you know, last week, as you know, he was scheduled to come on the program and he canceled -- >> and he bailed. >> -- a couple of hours before the show, yeah.

and then decided he was going to come back on, and he came on, and yes, i was, to be honest, surprised that he did. you know, he clearly felt the pressure that he needed to come on and talk about this more. and when i said, was it greg abbett, rick perry, or anyone in the gop who has said, you've gone too far, you need to dial this back. the answer to that was, categorically, he said, no. it was his wife, his brother, who was going to be on our program tonight, and it was his daughter who said, this is utterly inappropriate and you need to dial it back. >> his daughter. >> his daughter, yeah. >> we played a clip, but i want people, if they want to be able to watch this whole thing with you, go to cnn.com. erin burnett, thank you so much. we watch you every night. >> thank you, brooke. >> "erin burnett outfront," 7:00 eastern only here on cnn. >> see you, brooke. coming up, carrie kennedy in court for her dui, but she's using the so-called sleep driving defense. the question we're asking is, will it work? that's next. eat video. so i got the new nokia lumia icon. it's got 1080p video, three times zoom,

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another criminal trial for the family really considered american royalty and niece of president john f. kennedy is charged with driving while contacted after she hit a tractor-trailer back in 2012. the trial of carrie kennedy, who is robert kennedy's daughter, started monday in new york, and her defense is this. the wrong pill made her do it. kennedy's attorney says she took this bill, the generic for ambien, by mistake, thinking it

was her thyroid medication. our new york affiliate reports a trooper testified today, he thought kennedy was actually having a seizure or a stroke after her car hit the truck on the interstate. so to new york we go, and new york legal analyst, sunny hostin. sunny, when you hear this, like, i took the wrong pill defense, is that legitimate? >> you know, i think it could be. being in trial really is about relating to the jury. and i don't live too far from where this trial is taking place. you're talking about westchester county. a lot of soccer moms there. a lot of people that do take multi-pills, take thyroid medication, take ambien, because they have trouble sleeping. i think it could be very credible to a jury that, hey, i didn't mean to drive under the influence. i just took the wrong pill. i actually think in this case, especially if she testifies, barrack, which according to many, she will, i think it could really work out for her. >> and it's sbraegs, because you talking about playing to the jury and the soccer moms, i don't know who the jurors are, but when you have other members of the kennedy family sitting in

that courtroom, what kind of impact do you think that's having? >> it always has an impact when there is a family presence behind the defendant, in any case. we're not only talking about a family -- >> not just a family. >> -- we're talking about a famous family, as you mentioned earlier. sort of the royalty of the united states. so so i suspect that these jurors will know ethel kennedy, they'll recognize carrie kennedy, it is the kennedy name. you have to be living under a rock not to know who the defendant is. and i think it's also going to help her. i really do. i suspect that we are not going to have a guilty verdict here. >> sunny hostin, we'll continue watching it. thank you very much. coming up here, this mystery illness in california affecting as many as 20 children with polio-like childre. it has doctors wondering what's happening. coming up next, we'll talk to our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. [announcer] word is getting out.

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. i want to tell you about these two big medical stories today. one involves women who have the breast cancer gene. a recent study says they can reduce the potential risk for ovarian risk if women remove their perfectly healthy ovaries before the age of 35. and in california, doctors are trying to figure out what has paralyzed five kids. >> the prognosis that we've seen so far is not good. most of the children we have seen have not recovered. our suspicion is that it's a virus but it's unproven. we know it's not the polio virus. there are other viruss that can do this.

>> joining me is dr. sanjay gupta. how concerned are you? >> i thought interesting, brooke, part of this was an on call to doctors across the country saying, have you seen anything like this? >> yes. >> is there something similar where kids are backing weak in one limb or the other? if so, don't hesitate. go to the doctor because you want to get a diagnosis as soon as possible to see what is tieing these cases together. >> is there something that doctors in another state are worried about? it wasn't a finite period of time with a number of kids? >> it does seem to be. they are presenting this at a big conference to make sure there wasn't anything unusual that you're seeing in your own communities that might fit with this. >> let me ask you about totally switching gears, this new research saying that if you

have -- young women, around my age, perfectly healthy ochl varies, if you have that sort of notorious cancer gene, the brca, you should have your ovaries removed? >> they are now putting a number on it. we've known for some time that the breast cancer mutation gene is a tumor suppress sor gene. if those genes don't work, the tumors are allowed to grow and the tumors that they were most worried about is breast cancer and ovarian cancer. when you look at the data, they say if you test positive for this gene, your chance of cancer goes up significantly around 35. >> 35 is the number. >> it's one of these psychological things. if a woman decides to get this testing done, part of it is going to be, how am i going to behave if i receive this information? am i going to get a mastectomy

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