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i needed to meet eddy and give him an eyeball up and down, size him up. >> and who she met wasn't what she expected. >> death row series premieres sunday night at 9:00 eastern. as you know, susan sarandon the voice you'll hear right here on cnn. anderson starts right now. good evening, everyone. tonight more on the breaking news. air traffic controllers in southeast asia have lost contact with a jumbo jet carrying 239 people. we'll tell you the very late thaeft we know. we are getting more information and pieces. we'll have that just shortly. also cries in the south african night. was it the blade runner screaming in anguish after mistakenly killing his girlfriend or was it her screaming in terror before he pulled the trigger? we'll take you inside the courtroom and the case. neighboring having differs reports. breaking news in the horror story, desperate cries from inside this van our mom is trying to kill us.
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the kids survived. we begin with airlines flight mh 370. boeing trip 777 carrying 227 passengers, 12 crew members. the aircraft state-of-the-art and, a we should mention has an excellent safety record. however, bound from coalalampur to beijing, air traffic controllers say they lost contact with it. it happened about two hours into a flight according to a statement from the airline. search and rescue operations are now under way. we're doing all we can to try to get as many details as possible from our sources around the region and the world. right now want to bring in retired american airlines captain jim tillman who joins us by phone. jim, when the air traffic controllers said they lost contact, how often are they monitoring that? is it constant? >> it is constant to the extent whether they have regular reports that they have to make and that sort of thing. i would suspect, and i don't know this for a fact but i would
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suspect that they also may have lost radar contact with them. this route as you point out on the map there, is mostly over land. they're not dealing with the thing where this airplane was over the middle of the ocean someplace. being over land means there are lots of places and lots of antennas and lots of radars and lots of radios that would be at your disposal. this sounds really bad, anderson. it sounds like a really bad situation. i've been trying to come up with every scenario i could to just explain this away, but i haven't been very successful. >> you point out that it's over land, this plane was two hours late getting to beijing. you would think unless they're -- obviously there are some very remote regions in that area that the plane is flying over. but there are no reports from the ground of anybody spotting this plane. >> yes, that's true. and again one can assume that the chinese government has radar
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stations all over the place for their own security. i would think that they would have some way of being able to detect where that airplane was and wasn't. they're dealing with an airplane that is about as sophisticated as any commercial airplane could possibly be at this point in time. it has as you mentioned an excellent safety record. their only fatality has been the asiana crash in san francisco. there's been one other 777 that had some problems, but no one was hurt in that. this is really a shock in lots of ways. >> this may be a dumb question, but when the airline says they are trying to find this airplane, how do they go about trying to find it? are they just waiting for reports from the ground? how do they actually go about this? >> they use everything available to them. you use any reports that are coming in from people on the
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ground. they also use large aircraft to fly along that route and see anything that's available. this of course goes over international lines. so they're going to have to coordinate with other nations who have access to their air space and ask them to also join them in the search for any wreckage or anything like that. i came up with one wild scenario that they had a total electrical failure. if that happened on that airplane, there is a backup to the backup to the backup radio which can be used. it has very limited range. very, very limited indeed. it's something like maybe 100 miles. so if that happened, and that's a very remote possibility, you would not be able to communicate with anybody by radio until it was able to land someplace. but we don't have any evidence of that. and just the sketchy information we have so far, it doesn't sound very good. >> we are going to continue to monitor the situation,
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obviously, very closely. malaysian airlines saying they have lost contact with this jet more than 200 people on board. we're going to bring you any updates as soon as we get them throughout this hour. we do have a very busy night ahead as well. we want to turn to ukraine. a lot happening on that front. first off a tense standoff at a crimean military base is over right now, ending when russian troops and local cossacks like out of the 19th century withdrew. russia angering ukrainian nationalists, as ukrainian authorities report, new russian moves to blockade and bottle up ukraine's navy. a second u.s. warship entered the black sea for planned exercises, while nearly 50 european observers were sent to monitor the situation in crimea. they were again turned away at a border checkpoint by armed men for the second time in two days. back in washington, breaking news. president obama working the
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phones speak at length with the german chancellor, angela merkel. no details yet on precisely what was said in that conversation. the main focus remains certainly on the ground where anna coren is reporting for us tonight. so the situation there obviously very tense. earlier today russian soldiers actually attempted to storm a ukranian base. what do you know? >> reporter: as we know, anderson, tensions have been bubbling away for days. but it would seem that things really turned ugly at a military base about an hour and half from where we are. 60 russian soldiers arrived in trucks. they are called on ukranian troops to surrender, put down their weapons. the ukranian's refused. and that is when the russians got their truck and rammed the gate. they actually managed to get through onto the base. apparently the ukranian's then form add human shield and stopped them from getting through. the russians retreated when the
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local militia then turned up to support the russians, that's when it really turned ugly. they attacked journalists on the ground, and some were even hospitalized. anderson, we know that the prime minister here in crimea has basically said that the only troops that should be here now are russian and that the ukranian's should easterly swear their allegiance to the russians or leave immediately. >> it's obviously become a much more difficult situation for ukrainian troops on the ground and journalists now being targeted i understand including you and your crew. what exactly is going on on that front? is it just western journalists? >> reporter: yes. it would appear anyone who is speaking anything other than the pro-russian line, anderson. there just seems to be this media crackdown. they're just stamping out dissent and opposing views. the government here, it has shut down two ukranian television stations operating in crimea, replaced one of those channels with state russian tv.
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and then there was this attack on a bulgarian journalist, brutal attack captured on ccc tv. surveillance video. he was filming. he was filming these paramilitaries who actually confiscating equipment out of one of the tv stations. and they spotted him, they raced over, they pinned him on the ground, put a gun to his head and took his camera and his phone along with his assistant. he gets up, he's in shock as to what happened. it really goes to highlight, anderson, just the hostility and the angst being shown to western journalists. the real concern is that this i only going to worsen as we get closer to that referendum on the 16th of mar. >> anna, be carful on the ground. a stunning claim that goes straight to the question of how foreseeable this was. until lately we've been led to believe not very foreseeable. we are told there was little warning or vladimir putin's
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move, almost a spur of the moment kind of decision he made. however that's not what the head of the defense intelligence agency lieutenant general michael flynn said this morning on national public radio. listen. >> i think for easily seven to ten days leading up to the russian troops as we see them now in crimea, we were providing very solid reporting on what i would describe as just strategic warning where we move from one level of sort of a condition of warning, which i would just describe for the audience as sort of moderate, to one where we believe things are imminent. and we did that about a week prior to the events that unfolded, really last friday. >> well before putin went to get military authorization. >> yes. >> you knew he was up to something. you were warning the administration. >> that's right. we along with our other intelligence community partners. absolutely. >> what to make of that. who knew what and who said what to whom? a lot of questions tonight. national security analyst and former cia officer robert bair
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joins us, and julia yaffy, senior editor at new republic. her most recent article titled "eastern ukraine still fighting its past life." bob let me start with you. on the one hand we hear from someone like senator john mccain who said this was a massive intelligence failure now general flynn said there was word that russian intervention in crimea was imminent in his words. what are you hearing from your sources? >> well, the question is where did the intelligence go? that's always the problem. i talked to the state department today, a senior official, and said kerry didn't know about the invasion when he was talking to lavrov right up until the invasion. he was taking his word there would be no invasion. the problem is when you stovepipe this stuff you don't know where it ends up and who
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takes it seriously. it's a big intelligence community. and there may have been miscommunications here. >> david, you wrote a column earlier this week which you said that putin had already won. what do you mean by that? >> well, in effect what he really wanted was crimea. and he's gotten crimea. crimea is a vital strategic importance to first the soviet union now to russia. it helps guarantee their outlet to the meditteranean and black sea. it's of critical vital importance and he has that now. >> julia, in your latest piece in "the new republic "i've been following on twitter all week long. it's been fascinating to read your stuff. you reference a comment ma putin made back in 2008 at a nato summit where he told then president bush that ukraine isn't even a country. we had professor steven cohen on last night and he said the same thing. it's not even a country. obviously a lot of people in kiev take great issue to that. how much is that kind of thinking driving vladimir putin's actions right now? >> i think it's driving a large
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part of his actions. he's part of a generation that grew up with ukraine just being another province of the soviet union. it was ruled from moscow. now all of a sudden it's its own country. and we have to negotiate with it over our own naval base? that sounds crazy to him. and i think it's pretty widespread that this is not -- that these borders are fictitious. >> julia, also one of the things you've been writing about this week which i've been following is that much has been made of sort of language divide in ukraine, the russian-speaking parts in the east and in crimea and in other parts the pro-russian side, the pro-western side. but you say there's more of a generational split going on in ukraine that really impacts all of this. explain that. >> that's right. well, when we see on our tvs -- sorry, or newspapers a map of ukraine it's often split in half and we see the russian-speaking
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east and the ukranian-speaking west. the problem with that is most of the country speaks both russian and ukranian. the question is which comes first. that's not even the issue. like i said, this was all part of a big soviet space. and by stalin's design this was an inherently russian space, a russian-speaking space. despite all of the nationalities that came under the soviet umbrella. so when people say -- people of the older generation like putin's generation, when they say russian, part of the time they mean soviet. but now there's a new generation that was born after 1991. they're in their early 20s now. they were born into these countries. and they see themselves as ukranian's. so some of the students i spoke to at this university which is deposed president viktor yanukovych's hometown, they're ethnically russian. they speak russian at home. but they're fluent in ukranian. they can write in ukranian.
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but they still identify themselves as ukranian simply because they were born in a country called ukraine. that's a very modern understanding of citizenship. it will take us awhile to get there for that to be a more kind of widespread notion. >> david, it's interesting, though. no matter what, no matter those who want to be more associated with the european union of the united states, the geography of ukraine demands they have a relationship with russia. there's no getting around it. >> no doubt about it. remember, russia has always needed what it believes is a buffer, a near abroad, that it can guarantee won't be part of nato, won't be part of the e.u., that will be even if not directly linked as part of a nation called russia of or the soviet union at least not linked with its clear opponents, foes, nato, for instance, the west. so they need a buffer of some kind. if a real ukraine manages to break away and to the point can ally with nato, join nato, join
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the e.u., that is a tree mend threat to putin and russia. >> at this point no one is talking about joining nato certainly. >> there is talk about that. if they can actually pry the whole country away, if they can have an election that really elects a western-oriented government, certainly joining up with the e.u. would be a very interesting concept for them if not nato. >> david, appreciate you being on the program. julia, great to have you on as well, thank you. and bob bair as always. more on the breaking news of the crash of that malaysian airliner and what we're now learning at the women at the wheel of this van now in custody accused of trying to drive her three children to their deaths on a florida beach. so unthinkable. we'll be right back. discover card. i missed a payment. aw, shoot. shoot! this is bad. no! we're good! this is your first time missing a payment. and you've got the it card,
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a boeing 77 is missing. they lost contact malaysian airlines flight mh 370 with 239 people onboard vanished from radio contact into its flight from kuala lumpur to beijing. we do not know what has happened to this airline. search and rescue operations we're told are now under way. on the phone with us now a malaysian airlines vice president of operations. i appreciate you being with us. what's the latest you can tell us about this aircraft? >> okay. this aircraft depart ed kuala lumpur international airport about 41 minutes after midnight local time. supposed to lange at peking at 6:50 a.m. 239 passengers and crew members. 12 crew members and 227 passengers have been reported missing at about 2:30 a.m. this
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morning from the control tower. lost contact with this aircraft so we tried to communicate with this aircraft through various means. we also got aircraft trying to detect the aircraft. we failed to establish any contact with the aircraft. and the aircraft has got about seven hours of fuel on board this aircraft. and we suspect that by 8:50 this aircraft would have run out of fuel. at the moment we have got no idea where this aircraft is right now. >> have you received any reports from other radar installations along the route of this aircraft or any installations on the ground? >> not at all, not at all. we have indeed got in touch with our search and rescue team from the local authorities.
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they have mounted a search and rescue. so far no luck. >> what exactly goes into a search and rescue operation? how does that work? are you sending out -- >> can you speak a little louder, please? >> sure. it's a bad connection. what goes into a search and rescue operation at this stage when you don't know where the aircraft is? have you sent out other aircraft along the route? >> okay. at the moment i don't have much information, but a search and rescue, but we are working with the team right now. they have -- we understand they have been deployed, but we have no idea of the findings yet. >> commissioner sharuji, i appreciate your time. >> could you speak louder, please? >> we'll talk to you later on tonight. i want to bring back in retired american airlines captain jim tilmon joining us on the phone. jim you just heard from the airlines themselves. they say search and rescue operations are under way but they have no idea at this point
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where this aircraft is. >> well, i can understand that. i've been doing a bit of quick research here and found an unofficial site online which is called flight aware. it's one of those tracking services that you can get to track a flight when you have your loved ones flying in, whatever else. this tracking service really has specific information that they list about exact location, latitude and longitude, the course of the heading of the aircraft, the air speed and the altitude and the rate of climb or dessent. it went on as indicated here with the indication they have is 12:02 p.m. eastern standard time at such time there were no more reports. it's just blank. they were at 35,000 feet,
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according to flight aware, and they had begun to level off when they lost this contact. >> there are obviously a lot of possibilities here. i don't want to go down the road of speculation at all. because frankly, there are no doubt people watching this who are trying to find out information about their loved ones. but in terms of search and rescue operations, we just talked to the representative from the airline. he didn't really have a lot of details on exactly what was going on. clearly they are trying to make contact with anybody along the route, local authorities along the route, for any possible information. >> yes. that would be standard procedure as well as trying to canvas any of the other airlines that may have been flying in the area. the frequency that they have is an emergency frequency that you would normally transmit on if they had a really severe problem. and most airlines, many airlines, not mandatory but many of them do monitor that
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emergency frequency just as some means of being willing to cooperate and see if there is a problem. they might canvas other airlines that might have been in the area and see if they got any kind of report at all, even if you had limited radar radio range, the possibility of being able to be heard by another airplane is probably pretty high. i am very concerned about this one, because airplanes don't just disappear. and apparently this one for all intents and purposes has. >> and again, i just want to emphasize we do not know what has occurred with this aircraft. malaysian airlines saying they have lost contact with the plane, 239 people on board, that is passengers and crew members, 12 of those people are crew members. we're going to again continue to try to gather as much information as we can. just trying to bring you as accurate information as we can when we know it. we'll take a short break. we also have new developments in
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segment tonight, ebony wilkerson accused of driving her minivan with her children into the atlantic ocean charged with three attempts of first degree murder. bystanders shot this video of the minivan driving into very rough surf on daytona beach on tuesday. three children were inside, a 3-year-old, 9-year-old, 10-year-old. witnesses say the kids were screaming for help their mother was trying to kill them. she denies she was trying to harm anyone but witnesses said she tried to keep them from rescuing the kids. thankfully no one was hurt. hours before this happened wilkerson's sister called 911 saying she was worried about wilkerson's mental health. here's part of that call. >> what is she doing? >> she's talking about jesus and that there's demons in my house and that i'm trying to control her but i'm trying to keep them safe. >> she thinks there's demons in the house? >> yes. >> she's not left. she's still there, right? >> she's in the car right now,
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but i have the keys so she can't go anywhere. >> well, later in the call the sister says wilkerson got another set of keys an drove off. police later caught up with her, checked her out but let her go because they thought she didn't appear to be a danger to herself. though clearly she had some mental illness. now we're learning about a fatal accident in 2007 that she was also involved with. cnn's nick valencia joins me for that. what's the latest, nick? >> reporter: good evening, anderson. you mentioned that fatal accident. you were talking about back in 2007. we just got records from palm beach county that confirms she was involved in an accident that led to a fatality, charged for an improper lane change, sentenced to about 120 hours of community service in a hospital. and she had her license suspended. now, ebony wilkerson does maintain she was not trying to harm her children whatsoever. so when asked by reporters, volusia county sheriff's department said the reason for the first degree attempted murder charges were very clear. after they interviewed the
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children it was very evident to them she did this on purpose. take a listen. >> she did intentionally try to kill the children. witnesses observed this. we had witnesses who actually saw her go into the surf. we had witnesses who tried to get the children out of the car, which she tried to keep them from rescuing the children. we also have the fact of what the children have told us, that their mother was trying to kill them. >> anderson, they're convinced that she was doing this intentionally and that she had every intention to harm these kids. >> these poor kids. to have to deal with this and know their mother was allegedly trying to do this to them. appreciate the reporting. we're going to continue to follow this. do we know by the way if there were -- we'll talk about possible warning signs with our next guest. i want to bring in our equal justice panel, senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and a new york reproductive psychiatrist at cornell university. jeff, what do you make of the fact that just hours before the
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sister called we heard the 911 tape, police found her said clearly she was disturbed but lucid, not a threat to herself. >> this happens a lot. because you don't know in advance when people are going to crack like this. you don't -- we have a hard enough time in the legal system determining what happened in the past. but expecting police or medical personnel to predict what's going to happen in the future, it's just -- we don't have the tools to do it. so it's tragic or was almost tragic, but it's not that the surprising. >> dr. berndor f, so many people find this unthinkable and don't understand how a mother could do this, particularly somebody pregnant with another child. what do you make of it? >> it's unthinkable. i think that sort of speaks to mental illness. because a mother in her right mind? who would try and kill their kids? so it seems clear to me, and i don't know this person, but that she was not thinking lucidly, that she was obviously talking demons and not clear thinking,
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confused. and that she may have been trying to help her kids, even though -- >> in her confused mind. >> in her mind. >> obviously you think about other cases, susan smith, andrea yates. is that a fair comparison? >> i think the yates case is. and again i know nothing about it so i can't speak to specifics. but i think when someone's psychotic, they've lost touch with reality. and they believe things. she may believe as i believe andrea yates did that she's a bad person, that she's evil and awful and the only way for her kids to be okay is for them to ascend to heaven. and if she kills them they could be saved. >> and a psychosis, psychotic episode, is that something that somebody is born with the imprint for that? or stress? >> good question. i mean, mental illness is largely genetic. stress can certainly bring it out. being ill during pregnancy, what's interesting about this case is that we often think of this during postpartum. her youngest child is three, i believe. so she's not particularly
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postpartum. her kids are 3, 9, 10 or something. she's pregnant. people actually can be very ill during pregnancy. and i think if nothing else this case highlights the fact that pregnancy is not protective. and i wonder was this woman being treated? obviously she has a psychotic illness that probably existed long ago. >> predates this. jeff, in terms of the legal aspects of mental illness, how does that -- >> we struggle with these cases so much. because on the one hand we as a society understand that if you are actively mentally ill and you don't know what you're doing, there is no reason to punish you the way you would a hit man or someone who's intentionally committing a crime. however, we don't want to see anyone get away with something like this. >> what happens to the kids, too? >> well, the kids will either go with relatives or to a foster family. we can take care of kids, at least somewhat. but how you deal with someone who does something so horrible but may or may not understand
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what they're doing is something the legal system has literally struggled with for centuries. >> and so much stigma around mental illness in this society, this adds to it. >> for sure. people are going to be so upset with this woman. and i understand that. it's tragic, it's horrific, it's unthinkable. but i have to believe she's ill. and that we have to consider that. and to criminalize it is very -- >> although our prisons are full of people who are mentally ill. >> that's a huge problem. >> that's where we wind up treating a lot of it. >> dr., good to have you on the program. jeff toobin as well. we have next more on the search for the missing airliner. we'll be right back. i'm beth... and i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage your business expenses and access them online instantly with the game changing app from ink. we didn't get into business to spend time managing receipts, that's why we have ink. we like being in business because we like being creative, we like interacting with people.
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more now on breaking news. malaysian airlines reporting it has lost contact with one of the jumbo jets two hours into the flight. reuters news agency ers is recording contact was lost in the air space of vietnam. the boeing 777 wide body twin jet was en route from kuala lumpur to beijing. 239 people on board. search and rescue operations are now under way. want to bring in cnn's richard quest who coincidentally has been shooting a story on the airline and spent time with the airline's ceo. this is obviously -- we don't know exactly what's happened to this plane, but it is mysterious
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that some two hours into the the plane we were talking during the break you were saying this is the safest time of the flight >> yes. according to what we know so far, and everything that you and i now say must be caveated with it's early days, but it was an hour and something into the flight. now, this would be classed as the cruise portion of the flight. you break down the flight into taxi, take off, climb out and then cruise. and so in that particular point of the flight, this is the safest part. nothing is supposed to go wrong if at all in this part. the aircraft is on auto pilot. the pilots are making minor correction and changes. as the plane burns off fuel, the plane will be going higher and higher. so this is extremely -- it's always serious, obviously. but that it should have happened at this point in the flight, whatever had happened, whatever contact has been lost, that will make this a much more serious matter in that sense as to what happened. it wasn't taking off, it wasn't
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landing. >> and i have not been on malaysian airlines for probably 20 years or so. what is as a company how is it? safety record all that? mod e modern fleet? >> the plane we're talking about i believe is the aircraft 777 200s, not the 300 which is the longer aircraft, physically longer aircraft. they have the older fleet. the average age of the malaysian airline 777 fleet about 14 years, not particularly old or young. this particular aircraft if it's the one that we believe it is that's been involved in this incident, was delivered in -- it was 11.8 years old, delivered in the late 1990s. it had two rolls royce trent engines on it. it was delivered in 2002, thereabouts. so it's not a particularly old aircraft. malaysia has missing 777 200s in
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the fleet. extremely experienced operator of this type of aircraft. >> is this owned by the government of malaysia? >> yes. well, it's an odd hybrid form of ownership. the government -- the part of the float of the shares is in the private sector, part of it is with the government. the government clearly owns the majority. so yes, it is a government -- it is a national carrier of malaysia. a carrier that's undergoing all sorts of transformation and reform and restructuring at the moment. the chief executive having to make it profitable once again. at its last set of results just earlier this year they lost several hundred million. so it's a carrier that's in transition. none of which would affect safety i have to tell you. it's also by the way malaysia also has six a 380s in the fleet as well. >> we've just gotten word that the airline is apparently contacting next of kin for those on board the aircraft.
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239 people, 12 of those crew members aboard the aircraft. again, we do not know what has taken place with this aircraft. >> as i looked at the flight radar track of this aircraft on its route from malaysia up to beijing, we believe it's over vietnam where this incident happened. but it could just be a little bit further over almost to the coast of china. >> again, we'll continue to follow this. up next, crime and punishment is the end of week one in the oscar pistorius murder trial. the question is not if he killed his girlfriend reeva steenkamp but why. very emotional testimony that took place. we'll be right back. so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 a month?
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these could be signs of rare but serious side effects. crestor! yes! [ female announcer ] ask your doctor about crestor. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. . welcome back. we're continuing to follow the search for malaysian airlines flight mh 370 with 239 people on board. the airline is now contacting next of kin and working with emergency responds along the plane's flight path. again, reuters had reported earlier that contact was lost sometime over the air space in vietnam. more crime and punishment tonight, a former girlfriend of oscar pistorius today testified that he cheated on her with model reeva steenkamp. the girlfriend that he ended up shooting to death last year. pistorius doesn't deny killing his girlfriend but says it was an accident, that he thought she was an intruder. prosecutors allege they were arguing that night and that he shot her in anger. it's the end of the first week
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of the trial, a trial that's been highly emotional and dramatic so far as testimony aims to answer the central question, not if he did it but why. robyn curnow reports. >> reporter: this is how the week began for oscar pistorius, greeted by a crush of cameras while walking into court. the south african paralympic sprinter dubbed the blade runner is charged with killing his girlfriend last of last valentine's day valentine's day. prosecutors claim he did it in the aftermath of a fight, shooting through a bathroom door four times. it could put him behind bars for life. >> do you understand the charges, mr. pistorius? >> i do. i do, my lady. >> how do you plead? >> not guilty, my lady. >> reporter: in a state to the court, pistorius admitted shooting steenkamp through a locked bathroom door but maintains it was an accident, believing an intruder had entered his home, posing an imminent threat to the couple. the defense team says the
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investigation into the shooting was riddled with mistakes. >> the scene was contaminated, disturbed and tampered with. >> reporter: but the prosecution says pistorius knew he was shooting at his girlfriend, calling various neighbors who testified that they heard screams coming from his home that night as gun shots rang out. >> just after 3:00 i woke up from a woman's terrible screams. it was very traumatic for me. you could hear that it was blood-curdling screams. and it leaves you cold. you can't translate it into words, the anxiousness in her voice and fear. >> the intensity and the fear in her voice escalated, and it was clear that this person's life was in danger. >> reporter: but the defense attempted to poke holes in the neighbor's story, arguing steenkamp couldn't have screamed after the final shot which hit her in the head. and suggesting it was pistorius screaming and not steenkamp.
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>> with the head shot, she would have dropped down immediately. >> reporter: pistorius slouched down, appearing to cover his ears as a prosecutor described in chilling detail how a bullet hit steenkamp in the head. more graphic eyewitness testimony came from pistorius's neighbor, dr. johann stipp who want was among the first to see steenkamp after she was shot. >> i remember the first thing he said when i got there was that he said i shot her. i thought she was a burglar and i shot her. >> reporter: the athlete listened with his head in his hands, appearing to wipe away tears as the doctor described the gruesome scene. >> while i was trying to ascertain if she was survivable, oscar was crying all the time. he prayed to god to please let her live, she must not die. >> reporter: security guard peter barber testified today that when he first spoke to
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pistorius on the phone after shots were fired pistorius said that everything was fine. but it was clear that wasn't true once they arrived at the hom home. >> last time i realized that mr. pistorius was crying. >> translator: that's when i said not everything is in order. as mr. pistorius was telling me. >> barber said they then witnessed pistorius coming down the stairwell, carrying reeva steenkamp to the bottom floor. >> translator: my lady, i was so shocked. that i couldn't even think for a few moments. >> robyn curnow joins me now live from south africa. robyn, pistorius's ex-girlfriend also testified today about his use of guns.
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what did she say? >> reporter: indeed. samantha taylor took to the stand. she spent nearly two years with him. she described his relationship with guns essentially saying that he kept his 9 millimeter pistol with him all the time, carrying it on his person, that he slept with it next to his bed. she related an incident where she said that they had been driving in a car and that he shot his weapon through the open sun roof while driving on a highway. must be said, though, under cross-examination the defense said that pistorius would be denying that ever happened when he testified. and of course he said in his affidavit that he carried a gun, that he felt he needed his gun because he was scared and that it was there for self-defense. so a lot of information coming out in the last week. but a lot more obviously expected in the next few weeks, probably more forensic, ballistic type of evidence. expert witnesses. rather than these character
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witnesses we've been seeing over the past few days. >> all right, robyn curnow, thanks very much. joining me now live anchors of our new cnn program making the case, sunny hostin and mark geragos. mark, i was reading something today that said as far as memorable defenses goes, the defense that oscar pistorius screams like a woman is kind of right up there. i mean, that's basically what -- because the neighbors were testifying they were hearing a woman scream, the defense is saying it was oscar pistorius screaming. does that make sense to you? >> well, look, the thing i think was more significant about it was when they suggested look there could not have been screams after the head shot, and i'm sorry for how graphic that sound, but the head shot would have been virtually instantaneous for death. so if there was testimony that there were screams after that, it could not have been her. and a lot of the i think part of what happens when people are
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listening to things like this and hearing things like this is whether it's the gun shots first or the screams after or the screams before or the gun shots, the mind does very peculiar things when you're stressed out and when you hear things. and the memory can play tricks on you. so i don't know that they're going to bank on this idea that it was his voice that they were hearing or not hearing, and i think that the more compelling argument is that look, she could not have been screaming after the shots were fired. >> sunny, what do you make of what you just heard this week? >> did you just hear that dodge? bottom line here is that their defense is that he screams like a girl. and they need that defense, anderson. because every single neighbor that got up on the witness stand said they heard these blood-curdling screams over and over and over again. so to believe oscar pistorius's account, every single person either was mistaken or they really heard oscar pistorius that sounds like a girl. >> the forensics on this are going to be critical. you don't buy that he would have gotten out of bed, gone to look
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for an intruder without checking to see if his girlfriend was in the bed? >> of course not. how many people haven't been in bed and heard something go thump in the night? the first thing you do if you're laying with someone you say hey, did you hear that? he did that with one former girlfriend, yet allegedly he didn't do that this time. i think what's also going to be very important is the forensic information at least at this point is telling us that he must have been standing on his prosthetic legs because of the trajectory of the bullets. he's saying that he was in such a fog and so scared about this potential intruder that in fact he was walking without the prosthetic. that just doesn't make sense. and i'm curious about what mark thinks about this, although he's going to of course dodge this question. >> mark, does this boil down to forensics? >> no. i don't think it really does. i think that part of the reason that the prosecution did here in south africa what they do here in america which is the character assassination block where they put on the ex-girlfriend is i think the defense is going to come back
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and say, what in the world, what motivation was there for him to kill her to get up out of the middle of the night and just shoot her to death while she's in the bathroom through a door? >> because they were having an argument. >> it makes little sense. they don't have the motivation. >> everybody heard -- all the neighbors heard this argument, mark. come on. >> sunny. >> was it oscar screaming like a girl then? >> no. i'm going to tell you something, sunny. you can make the facts whatever you want them to be, but what the testimony has been so far is that they heard the screams -- >> an argument. >> -- and they heard the shots and they did not necessarily hear the argument. so that hasn't come up. and the one person who previously said it was 400 yards away. >> we should also point out not a jury trial like a lot of the trials we've covered in the united states. it's going to be decided by a judge. sunny, great to have you on. mark geragos as well. be sure to tune in monday night for the premiere episode of sunny and mark cohosting "making the case."
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new developments details on the disappearance of malaysian airlines boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished from kuala lumpur to beijing. reuters quoting china's official news agency radar contact with lost with the jumbo jet in vietnamese air space and did not make contact with chinese air traffic control. the airline says it's begun calling next of kin of those on board and working with authorities to try to locate the plane and find out what has occurred. there is a lot more happening tonight. susan hendricks has a 360 bulletin. >> a 360 follow during openings statements of a court-martial of an army general accused of sexual assaulting a female captain, a military prosecutor said brigadier general jeffrey sinclair abused his rank to threaten the woman into staying with a sexual relationship. sinclair says the relationship was consensual. a california state lawmaker is proposing a bill that would ban the captivity of killer whales for entertainment at seaworld. it comes in the wake of cnn's
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documentary "black fish". seaworld says the bill seems to reflect quote out of the mainstream thinking. and incredible dashcam video of a highway crash. you see it here. this is in northern ontario. the driver, look here, pulls out right into traffic and was charged for failing to yield. but look what else the video captures besides the crash. it shows the driver at fault appears to be on his cell phone at the time. >> oh, my goodness. susan, thanks very much. that does it for us. "piers morgan live" starts now. this is cnn breaking news. >> this is "piers morgan live" breaking news tonight. a malaysia airlines plane carrying 239 people bound for beijing is missing. according to a statement from the airline, air traffic control lost contact with flight m 8370 from kuala lumpur at 2:30 a.m. two hours after takeoff. i want to go straight to cnn's david mckenzie from beijing.
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