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documentary "black fish". seaworld says the bill seems to reflect quote out of the mainstream thinking. and incredible dashcam video of a highway crash. you see it here. this is in northern ontario. the driver, look here, pulls out right into traffic and was charged for failing to yield. but look what else the video captures besides the crash. it shows the driver at fault appears to be on his cell phone at the time. >> oh, my goodness. susan, thanks very much. that does it for us. "piers morgan live" starts now. this is cnn breaking news. >> this is "piers morgan live" breaking news tonight. a malaysia airlines plane carrying 239 people bound for beijing is missing. according to a statement from the airline, air traffic control lost contact with flight m 8370 from kuala lumpur at 2:30 a.m. two hours after takeoff. i want to go straight to cnn's david mckenzie from beijing.
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what do we know about this missing plane? >> reporter: what we know this plane went missing according to state media in vietnamese air space, piers, it was due to land here at 6:30 in the morning local time in beijing, this boeing 777 from malaysian airlines. packed with 239 people onboard including 12 crew members and two infants. they are searching frantically for where the plane went down, if it did go down. at this stage very sketchy details. 13 different nationalities on board. the majority on that plane were chinese nationals, around 160 according to chinese state tv. so a desperate search, malaysia airlines has notified or is in the process of notifying the next of kin. and this boeing 777 seems to have vanished at this point. >> so there's no confirmation the plane has crashed. what are the other possibilities if it hasn't crashed?
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>> reporter: well if it hasn't crashed it would have presumably landed at this stage. there would be no indications of any confirmed reports of a plane landing anywhere either in an emergency situation or not. of course it didn't alive at its destination here in beijing. i'm sure there are worried families at beijing's airport wondering what happened. and so malaysian airlines expected to give more details soon. at this stage, though, they say they don't know what happened. the plane left malaysian air space, lost contact around 2:40 local malaysia time with the malaysian authorities. and basically vanished into thin air. at this point they obviously are expecting the worst but hoping for some positive situation, but with those 239 people on board, certainly very worrying times for this flight. >> david mckenzie, thank you very much. want to go now to james calstrom, former fbi assistant
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director who investigated twa flight 800. what is your reading of the situation? what does it mean when an airline says a plane is missing? does that mean they believe it has crashed? >> well, apparently they're not getting any transponder -- no response from the transponder on the plane. and the air traffic control is not seeing the aircraft on radar. of course, it's lucky -- it's a good thing that that path is over, it's not over water. i'm familiar with that vietnam area. but that's rough terrain. so if it lost its transresponder, that's the plane giving out a signal as to where i am, this is my altitude, this is my heading, obviously that's been lost somehow. the communications with the company itself that owns the aircraft has apparently been lost. and i'm sure there's radars there over vietnam that would have seen it drop off the radar. and that's going to give them a
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pretty good idea where the plane is. >> the malaysia airlines v.p. of operations control told anderson cooper show a little while ago at the moment we have no idea where this aircraft is right now. there are internet rumors completely unconfirmed, some suggesting it may have landed somewhere in vietnamese land and has suffered an electrical fault. that might be completely bogus. but is it possible that a plane could lose all contact with its airline and yet still be able to land without electrical power at all? >> oh, i think so. i mean, you're getting hairy if you're coming into some airline unannounced. but it could happen, sure, if they got 5 o 6,000 feet of runway and they don't get into the flight path of other airplane, don't crash, they could certainly do that. that area over vietnam, at least when i was there many years ago, is depending on where they
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actually were, that's not very highly populated except in the couple of major cities. so there's rice paddies and there's -- as you get over towards cambodia, it's very very tropical and wooded. so if it did crash they're going to have an idea where it is. could take a long time to find anytime that type of environment. >> stay with us. we'll turn to matt wald,"new york times" aviation correspondent. matt from, what malaysian airlines statement says, i'll read it in full. we deeply regret we have lost all contacts with flight m 8370. the passengers with 13 different nationalalities. malaysian airlines is currently working with authorities who have activated the search and rescue team to locate the aircraft. our team is currently calling the next of kin of passengers and crew. you've covered many similar incidents over the years. what is your reading of the specific wording of that statement? >> if the airplane isn't showing
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up on radar, it does have a beacon, a radio beacon which is supposed to go off if it crashes so you can find it. if it's landed at an airport we'd know it. it probably does not have enough fuel to be still in the air. so this sure doesn't look good. >> we believe it had 7 1/2 hours of fuel. it had been in the air for two hours. obviously that was a number of hours ago. so you have to assume that it has landed in some capacity, either crash landed or landed. is it possible some are suggesting in unconfirmed reports it suffered a mainly electrical fault it would still be able to land without crash landing? >> i don't know how anybody would have an idea what had hit it. usually in a crash you don't know what happened until either you can examine the wreckage or you get ahold of the black boxes. this airplane has very advanced black boxes. and they are likely to end up back in washington, d.c. because the plane is an american
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manufacturer, the united states by treaty has a role in evaluating and in most of the third world if a plane crashes and it's a boeing, they ask the americans to figure it out. >> the boeing 777-200 stat is a long-range wide bodied twin engine jet airliner commonly referred to as a triple 7. capable of 18 hours flying time. we know it only had enough fuel for less than half of that. it incorporates more technologies than any other previous boeing airliner. has only suffered we believe one other crash which waist asiana airline crash in san francisco last summer since its conception in 1995. >> there was also one at heathrow. the plane came in after a long descent and there turned out to be ice in the fuel lines and it came in short. no one was killed in that one. the one in san francisco on july 6th that does not appear to
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have -- to have been anything wrong with the plane. there's a generic concern about these airplanes that they're very highly automated and they may be more automated than some pilots could handle, and that if you fly them enough your basic flying skills deteriorate or maybe you didn't have the basic flying skills to begin with. but again, it's a little early to say what happened here. there's about 1200 of these airplanes in service. they have been in service since 1995. and they have a very good safety record. this plane can go 5,000 to 9,000 nautical miles. this trip was a lot shorter than that, and it was lightly loaded. so it would be normal not to carry more fuel than you need to safely complete the flight, and if necessary fly to an alternate airport. >> mr. wald, stand by. we're going to go to richard quest now, cnn correspondent, just to update viewers tuning in. a malaysia airlines plane carrying 239 people on route from kuala lumpur to beijing has
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gone missing. richard quest, what are you hearing about anything that may explain why this plane has gone missin missing? >> there's no way anybody can have any idea what has happened. we're talking just two or three hours into the event. the plane was two hours into its flight from kl to beijing. traditionally that is the safest part of the flight. the two most riskiest parts are takeoff obviously and landing. this plane would have been at altitude. it would have been on auto pilot at the time, obviously, and it would have been making sort of good progression. malaysian airlines has 15 triple 7s in the fleet. the average age is about 13, 14 years. this particular aircraft that we're talking about tonight, if it's the one that everybody online is talking about, was delivered to malaysia in 2002. it's just over what, just shy of
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12 years old. now, none of those facts should in any shape or form form the basis for speculation. because malaysia is an extremely experienced operator of the 777-200 series. one of the most experienced operators. one of first airlines to get that particular plane. so from that point of view, we are grappling in the dark if you like for reasons and possibilities and prospects. but all we can say at the moment is that the aircraft itself has had an enviable safety record. the two incidents that you were talking about with matt wald a moment ago, the asiana where frankly we seem to know exactly what happened. at least we know it wasn't the aircraft. and the british airways one a few years ago which crash landed at heathrow where we know that was the ice in the fuel lines. so piers, this is the conundrum. anytime a plane loses -- they
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lose contact with a plane that is at altitude in the cruise, this causes great consternation. because this is the safest part of the flight. >> obviously very concerning to everybody who has somebody on that plane, malaysian airlines say they simply have no idea where this plane has gone. would an airline say simply it is missing if they already knew it had crashed, or would they just come out from your experience and say the plane has crashed? do you think it is genuine that they literally have no idea where it is? >> oh, they will not -- they will not say that the plane has come out of the sky and crashed until they are absolutely certain that that is what has happened. the normal form for these sort of things and like matters, anyone who's covered these for some years, there is a form that this takes. let's talk about what the airline will be doing. the moment that there is an
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incident of this nature, the very senior management of the airline, the ceo, the chief engineer, the chief p.r. people, everybody in the -- the very, very most senior people in the airline will have gone to a special room, in some cases it's known as the epic room. in some cases the emergency room. this has been designed and constructed so that information flows in to the directorate and out again. it's a sterile room. information is very carefully controlled. they will have decided in that room or at least in that process what statement to make. i've got the statement here, piers. "we deeply regret -- interesting use of language -- to have lost all contacts with this flight" now, we know by the amount of fuel that was loaded the length of the flight that the amount of time that's transpired that it probably would have run out of fuel by now or at least it would not have had fuel to continue
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this journey. to answer your question, could it have landed, you're not talking about -- i mean, it could. but you're not talking about a cessna or a little piper cub plane here. you're talking about a long haul, wide-bodied aircraft. and that puts it into a completely different league, piers. >> richard, stay with me. going to take a short break and back with more on the breaking news of this missing malaysian airlines plane. stay with us. ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone.
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back with breaking news. a malaysia airlines plane has gone missing. it has 239 passengers, including two infants. i want to turn now to greg five fife, former senior ntsb investigator and security consultant. welcome to you, greg fife. from what you've seen from the statement of from malaysian airlines which say they have lost all contact with flight mh 370 should we assume the worst that it has crashed or could there be any other explanation for it simply disappearing off radar? >> well, we always want to assume the best. but when malaysia knows that they have lost all communication, typically you have two forms of communication with the aircraft. you have the air traffic control, the two-way communication between aircraft control and the pilot, and then the pilots can also communicate
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on a discreet freeiquency with their company. if malaysia says it lost communication with the airplane, an atc is saying they have no two-way communication, then we have to assume that the airplane for whatever reason has gone out of communique. now, i heard jim kalstrom and matt talk about contact. northern track, there's a lot of stuff on the internet about this airplane being over the top of vietnam. that may not be necessarily true. and a lot of those tracks will take the airplane over the south china sea so it's over water. and so they may not be able to make a landing on land if they had control of the airplane. and if the airplane did go into the water, then of course we don't have any kind of emergency locater transmitter that would assist in the search and rescue efforts. it will probably be finding
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stuff, debris floating on the ocean. >> from cnn weather center, the weather at kuala lumpur airport at the time of takeoff about ten hours ago showed partly cloudy skies, light winds, less than 10 miles per hour, estimated the plane would have been over cambodia or vietnam at the time it lost contact. there's no significant weather issues in that area, no big storms or anything. if there's been no weather element to all this -- obviously we have no idea -- could it just simply be engine failure? would that be enough to bring a plane like this down? >> well, there's a number of things, piers. one of the big things of course if you had an engine failure, the airplane is certified to fly on one of the two engines. and they have what's called etop, or extended range if you will. you have to be within a certain time period of landfall if in fact you lose an engine for whatever reason. if they lost both engines, then of course that changes the
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scenario. and now the crew's in an emergency situation and going to have to try and find the best place to land. one of the inhibiting factors, of course, is that it's nighttime. so the crew doesn't have the benefit of trying to pick the best spot if in fact they have to make some sort of emergency type landing. so there are a lot of factors that we don't know. the other thing is that there isn't radar coverage in all of that area. there are what they call mandatory reporting points because there is no radar coverage crew has to check in with atc at certain points along their track so that they can report to atc that they're at a certain place at a certain altitude and that their expected arrival time at the next reporting point is at a certain time based on winds aloft. so there's a lot of still missing information about whether or not they were making
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their mandatory reports or not. >> if the plane had suffered some kind of catastrophic electrical failure, would it have any way had it landed without disintegrating, would any of the crew have any way of contacting the airline in another way that didn't involve electronics? are they set up these planes for that eventuality? >> the airplanes, if you were to lose all ship's power, the airplane by certification has to have battery backup power. so they still have to be able to utilize certain flight instruments and communication tools to complete the flight safely. so you could lose all the generators. you could have a two engine out where you have no [ inaudible ] or power. but the battery backup. and it only will operate for a certain period of time. and it's intended for an
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emergency situation. one of the other things, of course, is pressurization issues. if you have a high altitude pressurization problem, catastrophic decompression, the time of useful consciousness in the 20,000 to 30,000 foot range is a matter of seconds. while crews are trained to deal with these emergency situations, these rapid decompressions or explosive decompression situations, again it's all a matter of timing. and similar to a -- where he was flying the crew passed out because of oxygen deprivation. so there's a lot of possible scenario. but to speculate as to which one is the likely with this amount of information is definitely not useful. and it will be up to the investigators once they do find the wreckage and try and figure out what happened. >> greg feith, stay with us.
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thank you very much. we go back to james kalstro m, former fbi director who investigated flight 800. we don't know any more than the last time i spoke to you. >> i think greg really laid it out well. he really knows what he's talking about. he's one of the best in the business. i hope for the sake of the investigation and the families and the passengers that this is not a water incident. because that's going to make it tremendously more difficult to recover from. >> right. that was the point i was going to make to you was i thought the most interesting aspect of the interview with greg feith, he says he knows the tracking of that route. quite a lot of time the plane would have seared over the china sea. that changes the dynamic of what we thought was the case here which was mainly over land. >> it also explains as he noted probably the lack of radar. be interesting -- of course we
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don't know what was said on the company channel before they lost contact. we don't know if there was any kind of a may day call to anybody. >> and james kallstrom, you've investigated major plane crashes before. if it has crashed into the sea and we have no idea yet what has happened to this plane. but if it has, how much more difficult is that from an investigator's point of view to try and get to the bottom of what happened? >> oh, i think it's -- i'm not really a crash investigator, i'm a criminal investigator. but in order to do that you've got to take advantage of the people that know the plane. but my comments from that standpoint would be it's geometrically more difficult depending on the depth of the water it might be almost impossible. but 800 was in about 20 feet of water and it was hard enough. >> james stay with us. we go back to richard quest. richard you've got information on that very point for me. >> i just want to take that
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point. we've got some experience of this. air france 457 from brazil up to paris. now, that plane went down over the south atlantic. the wreckage was found within days or at least the jetsom and flotsam was found within days. but it took them many, many months and years, and they had to go back two or three times before they were able to get the cockpit voice recorder and the data recorder, which finally unlocked the mystery of what happened to that a 330. so to answer your question, the flight radar path that i've seen on flight radar did sort of have this going over the south china sea, and does have it sort of in that vicinity at its last point of contact. so if this did have its incident and did end up in the south china sea, depending on the day,
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depending on the circumstances, and i won't speculate on any of that, but i will say it will make the recovery and investigation immeasurably more difficult if it is over the water. >> i have to stress once again that nobody knows what's happened to this plane. the malaysia airlines statement says it has simply gone missing and they have lost all contact with it. the plane has 239 passengers on board, 13 different na nationalities. two infants on board we believe. so just a desperate search now to try and find out what has happened to this plane. we'll take a short break. when we come back we'll have more on the developing breaking story of this malaysia airlines plane that's gone missing the. stay with us. spokesperson: the volkswagen passat tdi clean diesel
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back with the breaking news that a malaysia airlines plane carrying 239 people en route from kuala lumpur to beijing is missing. the airline said in a statement that they lost contact with flight mh 370 at 2:40 a.m. local time. that's more than ten hours ago. the boeing 777-200 departed kuala lumpur at 12:41 a.m., was expected to land in beijing at 6:30 a.m., a 2300 mile trip. it's believed disappeared from all contact and radar contact
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after about 2 1/2 hours. 227 passengers, two of them infants, 12 crew members, it said. malaysia airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated search and rescue team to locate the aircraft. we go back to matt wald,"new york times" aviation correspondent. matt since i last spoke to you we now know weather is unlikely to have played a factor here. the weather at the time of takeoff showed partly cloudy skies and light winds less than 10 miles per hour. they estimated the plane would have been over cambodia or vietnam at the time it lost contact but no significant weather issues in that area, no storms and so on. what would you read into that? >> piers, there's very seldom weather issues when you're in cruise flight. the weather at the departing airport isn't relevant because when you're at that altitude weather is usually not the case. it's also -- if this plane is in the water. i would not say it's going to be particularly difficult to find. it was difficult in the case of twa 800 because the plane had an
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ancient black box that recorded very few parameters and didn't really shed light on what happened. if you look at other crashes at sea, virgin air 301 which crasheded in july of '95, in the dominican republic, they never recovered the airplane. they recovered the boxes. and about three hours after that they knew what had happened. it's difficult at sea but it's by no means impossible. and there are some crashes on line where the terrain is so rugged it becomes very difficult. i would suspect that finding out what happened to this plane is going to be arduous but will be thorough and will be accomplished. it just won't be quick. >> and important to note that all we know at the moment is that this plane has gone missing. they've lost all contact with the plane. >> we know more than that. >> it doesn't necessarily mean it's crashed though, does it? >> no. we know more than that. we know that it sure isn't in the air. because it didn't have fuel to keep flying for this long.
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also lost all contact has a different meaning in aviation. you not only have oral communication with the pilot and company, the pilot and air traffic control, you have an automatic system that's broadcasting its position back in response to radar. you have radar energy bouncing off the metal skin of the airplane and producing an image. you probably have satellite communication between the engines and other mechanical systems showing up to a satellite bouncing back down to the airline somewhere. so there are many many channels of communications. those are all gone. this plane is not in the air. if it were on the ground someplace populated we'd know it. >> having said that, there are a number of parts of that region which are pretty unpopulated. and it could possibly have landed in one of those areas. that is a possibility, isn't it? >> this airplane needs many many feet of runway to land. you don't have big flat open
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spaces in thinly populated or unpopulated areas. >> the plane itself, the boeing 777-200, it's a very sophisticated, modern plane known as the triple 7. does it surprise you if all the circumstances we have in front of us right now that this plane could simply just fall right out of the sky and crash? >> i don't think you can say it fell out of the sky. what you can say is it went down in someplace that was unobserved. a lot of the terrain is empty. it's also true that while flying in europe and the united states has become incredibly safe in the last few years, that's not the case in the third world. the ground support is weaker, the maintenance is weaker, the crews are weaker. and boeing and others try to build idiot-proof airplanes. but their crash rates have not declined like the once in the rest of the world has. and they still lose all kinds of modern airplanes.
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>> matthew wald, thank you very much. stay with us. we go back to richard quest now. richard do we know anymore of this stage from the airline? we know they're expected to have some kind of press conference but we're not quite sure when. >> we're waiting for the press conference. we wouldn't really expect to hear anymore until there's a certain element of certainty about what they can tell us. they've told us that the plane is missing, they've lost all contact. i completely agree with matt and with your other guests on this point. this is aviation code speak. this is the way they telegraph without actually saying that the plane has crashed. but because the 777-200, let's ignore the fact that this one's a dozen years old. it will still have modern communications, ultramodern communications. it will have had satellite. it will have had high frequency. it will have had data links. what we will be waiting to go see, of course, is did the airline receive automatic data
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from the plane when the incident happened? now, we know from 447 from air france, the first indication of what happened was because air france said this plane was telegraphing that it was in trouble. and so quite soon we're going to want to know about acars messages from what they call the acar system from the 777. >> richard, let me ask you this. as someone just tweeted this to me. does the plane not have wi-fi for passengers? if it had been a slowish descent could anybody have e-mailed their family? a do we know fit had wi-fi on it that was working, and b, is it possible that a passengers could have communicated that and if so would we know that by now do you think? >> the answer to the second is, i suppose in theory yes but the sort of incident you're talking about there, piers, a slow descent, would give plenty of
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time for the pilots to get off a may day message or to at least put out a distress call, to at least do something. so that is a nonstarter from that point of view. i've covered more than my fair share, unfortunately, of these. and what is quite clear is you look at what happened at the incident. was there a may day? did they get a distress signal off? what signals were sent from the aircraft via the acars system to the ground? and in the fullness of time, i'm trying to remember. i was on malaysia airlines two weeks ago. i couldn't remember their wi-fi system. it's not to look at that as whether that's relevant. what you have here is one of the most modern jet liners in the air at the safest point of flight in the cruise. and clearly as we now know from other air crashes like 447 which is probably the most recent one
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of similar type, something dramatic happens. we won't know what that is until they get the voice recorders, until they get the data recorders, and they analyze it. and that will be a combination of the malaysian authorities which will take the lead, the ntsb recognizing as the country of origin of the manufacturer, the british authorities because rolls royce manufactured the engines, the bea from france because -- there'll be everybody will be involved in this. but we are so far off that procedure and that process at the moment. >> from all your experience, richard, is it possible that this plane although it's lost all contact and has gone missing, is it still possible that it could have suffered a major electrical fault say in the cockpit that made sure they lost all communication and that it could still turn up perfectly
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okay or is the language fatalistic? >> it's pretty fatalistic. there's possibilities, probabilities, likelihood and reality. i'll he'll leave you to be the judge of where we are standing tonight. >> back with breaking news on this missing malaysian airlines plane that's gone missing with 239 passengers on board. starts. ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines" [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula that's just not found in any leading multivitamin. help protect your eye health with ocuvite. a seven day cruise to alaska or the caribbean from just $549. that's seven days to either marvel at mayan ruins...
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back with the the breaking news that a malaysia airlines plane has gone missing. it has 239 people on board, of which 227 are passengers, including two infants. the other 12 are crew members. i want to go now to fua fuafuad shar,uji from malaysia airlines. what can you tell me about this missing plane? >> okay. this aircraft departed this
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morning at 0041 time. it's supposed to land beijing at 6:30 in the morning. at about 2:30 we were notified by the act they lost contact with the aircraft. we tried in vain to contact the aircraft to no avail. at this stage now we have received quite a number of unconfirmed views that this aircraft has allegedly landed in [ inaudible ] but at least we have confirmed it's not true. but at this stage now as i'm talking right now we still haven't got any new information about where the aircraft is right now. >> just to confirm the reports i've seen all over the internet that the plane may have landed safely, as far as you're concerned malaysia airlines that is not true. >> that's not true. we have got in touch with the
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stations that have claimed that the plane has landed there, and confirmed it's not true. so really we don't know where the aircraft is right now. >> and let me ask you, if you lose all contact with a plane in this circumstance, do you assume that the plane has crash landed somewher somewhere? >> well, we will be -- initially we will be at the [ inaudible ] phase. we need to confirm by establishing contact with the plane, but if we still fail to contact the plane within 60 minutes then we have to activate the local authorities to launch a search and rescue. >> and tell me, was there any sign in the last moments of contact with the plane whenever that was during the flight, was there any sign of the plane being in any distress? did the pilots report any
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problems? >> not at all. the last reported contact with the aircraft was the aircraft was flying at flight level 350 about 35,000 feet. and it's about two hours from kla. and there was no calls from the crew or no indication from the tower that the aircraft is having any kind of difficulty. >> what are the theories that you are working on as an airline as to what may have caused this plane to go out of contact? >> at the moment it is material for us to speculate right now. anyway, we're having a press conference at about 11:00 time. during that press conference you can ask questions. at this moment right now our focus is actually to handle -- to work with the authorities as well as the next of kin and try
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to give the families assistance. >> of course. just to clarify, mr. sharuji, when you said a press conference, you said 11:00 local time. >> i have to leave right now. >> okay. can you just confirm one thing? is the press conference in 15 minutes? is that what you said? >> the press conference will be at 11:00 malaysian time about 15 minutes from now. >> thank you very much indeed for your time, sir, i appreciate. >> it thank you, bye. >> the confirmation there from malaysia airlines there will be a press conference we think in about 15 minutes. 11:00 a.m. local time, which will be nearly 11 hours after this airplane went missing. want to go back to greg feith, former senior ntsb investigator and an aviation security consultant. greg, you heard there what the v.p. of operations control said for malaysia airlines. they have discounted all these various rumors flying around that the plane has been recovered safely. and they clearly have no idea what has happened to this plane. did you deduce anything from
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what he said which could shed any more light on it? >> well, the fact there was no incidence of a distress call or any kind of issues that transpired at least what the representatives have given to us that their last communication with the crew there was no issue with the aircraft or themselves. so you have to figure that in between those reporting points, something dramatic, something catastrophic must have occurred for this crew not to have been able to at least get off a pan pan pan or may day call. we're dealing with some sort of situation that consumed them to try and keep the airplane under control, and that the fact that we don't have any additional information after that last reported call. now, we don't know if the crew actually made any calls to atc. the operations guy said that
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their airline communication, their interairline communication with the crew didn't indicate a problem. but he didn't specify whether the crew may have talked to atc about a problem. so there's an unanswered question that should be asked in the press conference. >> greg feith, i have to jump in we have to take a short break. stay with us please. we'll come back to you after the break and ask other guests also for their insight into this dramatic story this evening a malaysia airlines plane carrying 239 people, including 227 passengers, has gone missing. we'll be back after the break. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids,
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what do we know about this plane? >> we know that it was just about a dozen years old, that it's one of 15 in the malaysian airline fleet, and that it had taken off from malaysia. it takes off from malaysia and it starts to head up towards beijing. that flight should take five hours and change. the incident happens about two hours into the flight, which puts it over vietnam, just over vietnam, off the coast there, and either vietnam itself or into the south china sea somewhere in that particular area. we know that the last radar contact or the last communications was with hochi minh air traffic control. that is a very wide area and would have taken it into the south china sea. we also know from your interview a moment ago with the malaysian
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airlines executive that the flight level was 350, that's 35,000 feet, which basically means it's at altitude in the cruise, which should have been the safest part of flight. >> i thought what was fascinating is he confirmed there was no warning of any issue from the pilots about anything wrong with the plane at all. so this simply adds to the mystery as to what could have happened there. i believe you've been on this flight, is that correct? >> yes, a number of times. i lived in kuala lumpur and bent back and forth to beijing. so the main point is that malaysian airlines itself is a good airline. when you hear of third world airlines, you may think of these african operations with a bad safety record. malaysia has a good safety record. >> the facts as we know them is
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it took off just after midnight local time, ten hours now ago. so we know it didn't have enough fuel to still be in the air. so this plane has come down, we just don't know where or the circumstances which brought it down. when you've flown this plane, it is, i believe, an extremely modern plane, extremely well equipped. something catastrophic must have happened you would assume, correct? >> i was just looking at logs from the flight. suddenly there were no more reports from 35,000 feet. it just vanishes. so you could imagine some kind of all encompassing electric failure that caused that. but more or likely some problem with the airplane and what that is no one knows. >> time finally, james, if that any kind of a terrorist attack,
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would that be more obvious to detect? >> i suppose if it were detonated in that way, that could explain this. but you would think people would want to take credit, quote unquote, if that were the case. so i don't know and i continue want to speculate. for some reason it just disappeared from all the reports screens. >> james, thank you very much. i spoke to a malaysian airlines executive. he did confirm that the reports suggesting this plane was true were erroneous, just not true. we'll be right back after this break. alls in the forest and no one's around, it does make a sound? ohhh...ugh. geico. little help here. i need>>that's my geico digital insurance id card - gots all my pertinents on it and such. works for me. turn to the camera. >>ah, actually i think my eyes might ha... next! digital insurance id cards. just a tap away on the geico app.
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matt, i spoke earlier to the vp of operations at malaysian airlines. i thought two significant things came out of it. one, they have no idea where this plane is, despite reports that it turned up, it hasn't. and secondly, there was no
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warning from anyone on board the plane to the airline before it disappeared from contact. what would you read into that? >> it's not unusual, they teach the crews to aifuate, navigate, and communicate. communication comes last. we've got rising prosperity, rising air operations and a high rate of crashes and we'll see more and more of these, unless asia can achieve the same kind of change that north america and europe have had. >> we go back to richard crest. richard, can we rule out a terror attack here or not? >> honestly, no, you can't. because of the nature of this incident. let me be clear, i am not saying yes, i'm not saying no. you asked me, piers, can we rule it out? i'm saying no, you can't rule it
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out for the simple reason this aircraft came out of the sky, it would appear, at altitude, 35,000 feet without the crew managing to get a may day or a pan pan call out. we have to leave every possibility on the table. >> richard quest, thank you very much. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the disappearance of the malaysian airlines plane carrying 239 people. stay with us. oscar pistorius, the disabled athlete who sprinted into the olympics. center stage in a south african courtroom charged with murdering his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. a stunning, up and coming model. we speak to those who were there that fateful valentine's night. you could hear

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